Episode 952 | "Stuck In Turks"

Summary

The Joe Budden Podcast – Episode 952 | "Stuck In Turks"

Released August 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and characteristically chaotic episode, Joe Budden and his co-hosts riff on travel mishaps, group meal etiquette, podcasting hustle, and viral stories making the rounds. They open with Parks (resident engineer and co-host) stranded—somewhat conveniently—in Turks and Caicos, sparking debates about getting stuck on vacation and the lengths people truly take (or don’t take) to come home. The episode weaves through discussions on vacation “stranding,” men’s group dynamics, celebrity extortion scandals, etiquette on splitting bills, social media business, and brings signature JBP humor, quick-witted sidebars, and quotable one-liners throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Parks is "Stuck in Turks": The Art of the Vacation Extension

• [01:36] Joe shares that Parks is stranded in Turks, missing the pod, and suggests some people don’t push that hard to come home when inconvenienced on vacation.
  • Joe: “The people that get stranded, they never really trying their best to be unstranded, right?”
    – [03:19]
  • Debate on whether folks really want to get home or just ride out the "I’m stranded" narrative.
  • Ish, Mark, and Flip bring up personal stranding stories, some legitimate, some as “moves” or excuses.

2. Travel Stranding: Real Talk vs. Cap

• [05:26] Discussion about the options for getting home from vacation, debates about cost, inconvenience, and creative solutions.
  • Joe: “If it’s one seat in first class and one seat in 37E...our ladies know what to get. We gotta make it home.”
    – [07:20]
  • The moral question: Should you leave your partner behind if only one seat is left? “Of course!” says Joe, deadpan.

3. Podcast Logistics & Filling in for Parks

• [09:00] Inside baseball on how the pod covers when a main co-host is missing, from back-up engineers to “picking names out of a hat.”
  • Behind-the-scenes banter about show operations, Neff and Erickson stepping up, and classic Flip/Parks dynamics.

4. Club, Construction & Adulting Chronicles

• Sidebar jokes about club dynamics (lines outside, empty inside), being broke, house-building struggles, and soaring costs of living.
  • Joe: “Earth is expensive."
    – [15:18]
  • Stories about getting hustled by contractors and the endless frustrations of adulting.

5. Viral Story: Wild Animal Tourist Incidents

• [25:11] The team comments on viral safari videos—wife snatched by tiger, “being white” on safari, and the debate about risking your life to save a loved one from a wild animal.
  • Mark: “I would save her if she could be saved, but all this hero shit...nah. Like, I can’t swim. If she’s drowning, I’ll help.” – [27:01]
  • Ish: “You a man, bro. You just gonna cue the Set It Off music on your wife?”

6. True Crime Content & New Projects

• [29:59] Joe plugs his new true crime podcast, Crime in America, with Dick Wolf and Advanced Locals.
  • Extended jokes about who’s talking to the police, media coverage, and congratulatory ribbing from Flip and Mark.
  • Flip: “Look at you, man. You can’t stay down. Now you building a house, trying to find all this shit to get into...”
    – [31:42]

7. Joe Jackson Doc & Generational Trauma Debates

• [35:21] The hosts discuss the announcement of a Joe Jackson documentary, interrogating whether you can tell his story without including the abuse, and debating if greatness requires suffering.
  • Mark: “Maybe we didn’t need the greatness. It’s easy to say now—I’d rather not have Michael [Jackson] than have him get his ass whooped...”
    – [41:12]
  • Crew: Mixed, with some defending “tough love” histories in producing greatness.

8. Duress, Art & Adversity

• [42:04] Is duress necessary for great art? The pod sees turmoil as an ingredient in creative success but rejects justifying trauma with the potential for talent.

9. Celebrity Extortion & Private Life Ethics

• [46:17] Roland Martin’s alleged extortion/sex scandal breaks.
  • Mark has "done the research" and emphasizes the difference between reporting actual wrongdoing and contributing to harmful extortion.
  • Mark: “If you just living your life and you get caught up in a thong, that ain’t my business.”
    – [49:48]
  • Debate on revenge porn, digital privacy, and boundaries around celebrity gossip.

10. Social Media Grifts: Dangers of Posting DMs

• [53:15] ASAP Rocky story: creative reaches out privately for work, gets publicized and immediately pulls out. Crew underscores the importance of professionalism and sealing the deal before publicizing your blessings.
  • Joe: “There’s no entertainer that wants to see their private messages posted for public consumption, ever.”
    – [53:37]
  • Similar cautionary tales with Shaq gifting tuition and a recipient airing it out for more.

11. Splitting the Bill: The Group Dinner Dilemma

• [68:33] Viral Queen Naija dinner party controversy—bill comes, confusion, calculator.
  • Laws of men at dinner: Should men split equally, or is it case-by-case? Who’s responsible? Who pays when someone orders outrageously? When is Venmo allowed?
  • Ish: “If you go out and there’s four couples...customarily how I was raised, the men pick up the bill and divide it equally.”
  • Joe: “Men know what to say, but when put into that situation and the Chase account ain’t looking a certain way, men get silent.”
    – [71:01]
  • Agreement that life experience teaches you the etiquette of group outings, and some privilege is at play for those who can just “pick up the check.”
  • $1,300 becomes the joking threshold for when the “hassling” for cash starts.

12. Coupon Wars & Being Frugal vs. Confident

• [85:13] Is it acceptable to use a coupon on a date—and if so, should you hide it?
  • Self-awareness about pride vs. savings; crew mostly agrees it’s a bit much for a first date or somewhere “nice,” but nobody knocks a private price match at Best Buy.

13. Business Hustles: Monetizing Podcast Clips

• [93:31] Mark Lamont Hill discusses joining JBP’s “Clipper Tier”—paying $500 for the rights to monetize show clips. Banter about early deals, “whitelisting,” and earning back the investment.

14. Could MySpace Come Back? Nostalgia vs. App Fatigue

• [99:11] The table debates whether MySpace (teased to return) could ever be relevant again. Joe and Flip: Yes, with the right niche/community approach. Ish and Mark: Skeptical, tech has moved on.

15. Martial Arts, Fighting, and Ego

• [114:03] Team reacts to Jonah Hill's claim that he could "beat anybody's ass" now through Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, with Mark (the pod's martial arts nerd) explaining the realities, humility, and caveats of fight culture.
  • “The average blue belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu above can control an untrained opponent.”
  • Ongoing jokes about fighting skills, street rules, and "walking around the corner" to settle beef.

16. Lioness, Power, and TV Recommendations

• [153:43] Quick reviews and spoilers for Lioness (Nicole Kidman’s husband is a “beta,” says Joe), Furious, Power: Raising Kanan, and other TV picks.

17. Final Banter & Goodbyes

• [158:15+] The crew closes out with upcoming plans, jokes, and music, waiting for Parks’ return.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:19] Joe: “The people that get stranded, they never really trying their best to be unstranded, right?”
• [07:20] Joe: “If it’s one seat in first class and one seat in 37E...our ladies know what to get. We gotta make it home.”
• [16:07] Joe: “The performance has been acknowledged. I’m still not asking. Not at all.”
• [31:42] Flip: “Look at you, man. You can’t stay down. Now you building a house, trying to find all this shit to get into.”
• [41:12] Mark: “Maybe we didn’t need the greatness. I’d rather not have Michael [Jackson] than have him get his ass whooped...”
• [49:48] Mark: “If you just living your life and you get caught up in a thong, that ain’t my business.”
• [53:37] Joe: “There’s no entertainer that wants to see their private messages posted for public consumption, ever.”
• [71:01] Joe: “Men know what to say, but when put into that situation and the Chase account ain’t looking a certain way, men get silent.”
• [93:31] Joe: “Some people get it, some people don’t. Imagine if Denzel was fly with you calling it Red Magic… I’m letting you step on it for 500.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:36] – Parks “stranded” in Turks & vacation theory begins
• [14:00] – Joe on house-building headaches
• [25:11] – Viral safari attack clips & “Would you save your partner?”
• [29:59] – Joe’s True Crime show reveal
• [35:21] – Joe Jackson documentary discussion
• [46:17] – Roland Martin extortion/sex-tape scandal debate
• [53:15] – ASAP Rocky DM story: Posting DMs is bad business
• [68:33] – Queen Naija bill splitting viral video, dinner etiquette
• [85:13] – Coupons, frugality, and first dates
• [93:31] – Podcast monetization, clipper tier, Mark’s business moves
• [99:11] – Can MySpace come back?
• [114:03] – Jonah Hill Jiu Jitsu/fighting bravado scene
• [153:43] – TV: Lioness review, Power: Raising Kanan finale
• [158:15+] – Final check-ins, closing jokes, Parks shout-outs, outro

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Tone & Energy

The episode brims with playful banter, competitive masculinity, cheapskate confessions, social commentary, and signature “barbershop” energy. The cast is unfiltered, mixing seriousness (on trauma, crime, privacy) with relentless jokes, comfort-zone pushing, and big Jersey energy.

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Bottom Line:
Episode 952 covers everything from airport hustle to group dinner math, exposing the phony “stuck” vacation trope, modern etiquette, and the never-ending art of the side hustle—all while clowning on each other and the world at large.

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“Earth is expensive, buddy.”—Joe Budden [15:18]

Transcript

[A]

The thoughts, views, and opinions expressed by this podcast, as well as its hosts, offer entertainment purposes only. I repeat, it is not serious. It is not real. No one is exposing, revealing, indicting, or telling you anything about themselves. Also, we do not encourage you to try this at home. We are trained professionals who do not have your best interests at heart or our own. Enjoy the show. Check, 1, 2. What is this? The JBP? Back to business.

[B]

I guess right now we should start the show.

[A]

Uhhuh. Mic check. Mic check. 1212. Salutations. Welcome. Welcome. They still coming in, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

The line is all the way around the corner. They still coming in. Used to be me and six people in the club. They be saying that shit before you understood the club dynamics of why there was a line outside and nobody inside. Oh, those were the days.

[D]

Yeah, you was prompt going to the club, huh? Yours, prompt going to the club?

[A]

I was prompt everywhere in my life. Ish. Everywhere. Even the club? Yeah. Oh, you trying to shoot at me? Nah, nah, you shooting at me.

[D]

No, you always on time.

[A]

Nah, you shooting at me.

[D]

Yeah, attendance is amazing.

[A]

You're saying I was opening the club up, Carrying the crates for the DJ.

[D]

Free before 10.

[B]

Oh, shit. I hit you with the broky jokes.

[A]

Hey, I ain't mad at it.

[B]

The couch was on fire today.

[D]

I wasn't even.

[B]

Yeah, we've been here for, like, three hours, y'. All. So we've been on fire with jokes, man.

[A]

Parks. Parks is in Turks. He told us he was going on vacation, him and his wife. Hey, Rem, what's happening, y'?

[D]

All?

[A]

Parks is in Turks. Quick weekend trip. Was supposed to come back Monday, and then Monday, he hit us and said that he was stranded in Turks. He would not be able to make it back due to whatever the hell he said. And you do the Turks.

[D]

Turks out there.

[A]

Turk.

[B]

Nobody ever gets stuck in Boulder, Colorado, ever, ever.

[A]

And there's a lot of people in Turks right now. Lot of people in Turks right now. But park said he's stuck until Friday.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

Until Friday.

[B]

Tease and peas.

[A]

Tease and peace.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Turks and pellet.

[C]

What?

[A]

That's what he said.

[D]

Oh, that's nice. Oh, okay. That's a good one there.

[A]

Part nice. Hey, Parts. You pulled the move, boy. Listen, I blame these guys. All that prove your worth all this. Prove your value. Should it work, buddy? But hopefully he's enjoying his vacation. If anybody deserves one of this part, that's a fact. A friend of mine, my home girl, is actually in the plane right now headed back from. From. From Turks back over here, back home. Friend of yours to New Jersey? Yeah, friend of mine. Friend of mine on a plane currently as we speak right now. That's probably her idea. Yeah. That know the plane's up there.

[D]

She had to give you the scenario.

[A]

I have a working theory issue. Oh, you just trying. You shooting me again? Are you trying to shoot at me again?

[D]

I was asking a question.

[A]

A friend of mine itinerary makes it sound like something else you tend to see. Look, you good, bro.

[D]

I'm not even saying nothing. Nah, you good, bro.

[A]

I'm letting it go. I'm letting it go. But I'll be the determiner on if I'm good. I have a working theory about people that get stranded on vacation. Because I've heard this story now from about six to seven different people in the last eight months. Hey, I flew somewhere out of country flights is fucked up. I'm stranded now. Actually, my BM just told me that. Save that for another pod. But yeah, I keep hearing this line. And my theory is this. The people that get stranded, they never really trying their best to be unstranded, right? Like, I'm a workaholic. I know what days the gig is. If I get stranded and the schedule is off, I'm busting my ass to try to make it back. But the people that get stranded, they normally are at the mercy of the airline that they flew on, right? So, like, if you're on Southwest and Southwest cancels for four days or a week, then they say some stupid shit like Parks is saying I can't get back till Friday, rather than doing what I always do, which is pulling up the. The. No.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Pulling up. Pulling up the website that does comparative pricing.

[C]

Google flights.

[A]

Yeah, I pull up the website, I put in where I'm trying to go, and any airline that has a flight, I buy it and then I come home.

[D]

No, that's what people try.

[A]

Like, this plane's flying right now.

[D]

But no, that's what people.

[A]

But some people don't want to dig in their pocket and buy the new flight. Actually, Flip just did this too. Last time he was on vacation. Yo, I. I'm stuck out here for two weeks. Well, yeah, if you just going with Uganda airline or whatever the fuck airline

[C]

you was on n. All the flights was messed up.

[A]

No, you could have purchased a flight and got on, but nobody ever wants to do that.

[B]

I didn't know that.

[A]

Well, two things.

[D]

Two things.

[A]

I'm not shooting.

[B]

That's not shot.

[A]

I'm not shooting nobody.

[C]

You have a lot of money.

[A]

Stop it.

[D]

Two things. One, it depend on where you stranded at. That'll kind of influence your motivation a little bit.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

That's 1. And 2. Sometimes that other flight home might mean going somewhere that's nowhere near you. Like, it's a plane going over there. It's a plane going to Houston. Then you get there and got to wait for a little bit and then catch your flight to Jersey. It might not be the same. You're nonstop coming straight here or something.

[A]

See, I flew into Houston and drove to Jersey. I'm getting home. I've done. I'm getting home.

[D]

I've been stranded out of the country. And I just want to get stateside.

[A]

Yo, you seen the movie the Day after Tomorrow? The dad flood daughter for us to go, oh, I gotta get to my. That's me, that's me. I'm getting home.

[C]

We got you.

[A]

I'm getting home to mine. I don't care if you mad, nigga. Don't try to rush me. Don't try to rush what I'm saying.

[C]

I'm down with you.

[B]

It depends I remember.

[D]

Don't be that simple.

[B]

I was in St. Kitts in January for New Year's.

[A]

You another one pulled that? I'm stuck lying.

[B]

No, I got here.

[A]

Show those lines, boy.

[B]

Donald Trump kidnapped the president of Venezuela and they shut down the Caribbean for everybody.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

To America. Like, you couldn't leave. So the only option I had was

[A]

what do that have to do with getting to work?

[B]

You get me to swim.

[D]

You bought.

[A]

Alita Adams got there no matter what.

[B]

So Alita Adams had equity. So then when I got. If I owned some shit, I'd be there. You know what I'm saying? So the only option was to fly to Europe. And so I was like, I could fly to the UK and then fly from the UK to the United States, but I would have to be on a plane with my son for like 10 hours. I love you, man, but yeah, yeah, I was just gonna wait.

[A]

I understand.

[B]

They opened it up and we got here. But like, that was some shit. I couldn't even fly private back. Not that I would. Cause I can't afford it. But I'm saying, like, there was no option.

[A]

A lot of Parks is on the website, probably looking for two seats seated together to get home.

[B]

See, that's what I'm saying. Don't do my man like that.

[C]

Sorry, buddy.

[A]

Hey, if it me, hey, you gotta do like me and ice me and freeze. Don't play that shit. If it's one seed in first class and one seed in 37e. Hey, our ladies know what to get.

[D]

The hiking.

[A]

We gotta make it home.

[B]

So she.

[A]

What if not Breeze ain't playing that shit on their birthdays, boy.

[B]

Joe, what if it's only one seat? Should Parks leave REM there?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

What if there's only one seat? Should he leave her there and just come?

[A]

Yeah, if you're asking me. All right, which nobody ever asked me because they know my brain is gonna say something. Just that. Yeah, of course. You leave your girl here and you fly.

[B]

That's what you would do.

[D]

You would do. You would leave her in Turks and Fly.

[A]

You leave your girl in a foreign

[D]

country and come to work.

[A]

To work. I have to work. Right. I see. I don't have my interpretation. I answered it. Yes, I'm getting. I'm getting home to work.

[D]

Getting to the work. That's right.

[A]

The gig is the gig. That's step one of the gig. I'm not on Parks now. If anybody deserves vacation, this Parks now. I'm just shooting the. Yes, the gig is.

[B]

So how'd y' all come up with the. The substitution plan? I'm asking. No disrespect. I'm just curious to know.

[A]

Mark, you doing that you did to B dot when you outcast.

[B]

I'm not outcasting. I like him. We. We had a great. I got ocd, so just when I didn't see Parks here, I was uncomfortable. You seem like a great guy. He's super talented, super experienced.

[A]

Mark, I can't with you. I can't. I can't join in.

[B]

You're trying to make a narrative.

[A]

I can't. I'm just saying I see what you're doing, and I can't join in with you, man.

[B]

What do you mean?

[A]

Neff has been here before. If you haven't met Neff.

[B]

No, I've never been here a day without Parks.

[A]

Erickson has a backup. Have you met Erickson's backup?

[B]

No. Who's Ericson's backup?

[A]

Oh, it's Black Erickson. Tall guy.

[B]

We play on the couch in there one day. Okay, so he was, like, prepped before in case Erickson comes.

[A]

Erickson backup is the last move, guys.

[B]

What I say. Did you do, like, a backup plan?

[C]

Like a.

[B]

Like a.

[A]

Now you want to give Neff a mic?

[B]

I just want him to nod.

[A]

Now you want Neff to be a personality?

[B]

I do not need him to add a mic. I want to get home before Carson. No, what I'm saying is, do I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, like, how we work this thing out for backups, for cars, for backups. You know what I mean? Like, how we do the backup thing. That's all I was asking.

[A]

We pick names out of hat. Look, now, you ain't even.

[B]

You can't help yourself.

[A]

I appreciate, Neff. Thank you for stopping some time out today.

[B]

Thank you for troubleshooting, too.

[A]

And actually, yeah, dedicating some time to get this thing working. We did have some audio issues, but we are back.

[D]

We got it, though.

[A]

We are back now. Queens flip in the building.

[C]

What up? What up?

[A]

Yeah. How you doing, man?

[C]

I'm doing good, man.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that.

[C]

Just chilling, man. Neff was getting me a little tight, but, you know, we good. Big Neff, shout out to you. Hey, let me just say, y' all something. White people don't their surrounding areas. They don't really pay attention. They don't give a. Like, why the up. Like, he think that we down with him. He like, yo, hey, yo, this don't work, yo. Looking around, we like, yo, Neff, he was anime. Yeah. He like, oh, shit. I tried.

[A]

Ah, it don't work.

[C]

Joe, Joe. Like this.

[B]

Joe, Maddie shit.

[C]

Everest came out, hands in his pocket like this.

[B]

If you don't stop.

[A]

And we on the phone with Parks, who don't even have the decency to be in a quiet part of Turks

[B]

and act like he's missing work.

[A]

He on a beach, he on a yacht. The wind is whistling in the background. Way to go, Parks. Love you, buddy. Shout out to you guys.

[C]

He figured it out, though. He was dedicated.

[D]

That's gangster.

[C]

He sat there. He was dedicated. So shout out to him.

[A]

Gangster is the trick. All y'. All, Boy, you just did the same shit. When you go to your little white countries, you be visiting wrong person. Yeah, all y' all do get back fast.

[C]

He dropped.

[A]

Only person who probably get back when they say they getting back is Freeze. I don't think Freeze got stuck in Jamaica when he went out there.

[C]

Freeze.

[D]

Yeah, but y' all said I pulled a move in court.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you did.

[A]

Do.

[D]

You did. I'm sitting in the parking lot when I pulled the move.

[A]

Yeah, you definitely pulled a move with that one.

[D]

Yeah, I wanted my car for seven hours. Sitting in the airport yesterday for nine hours, My.

[B]

Where were you going?

[D]

Literally, I could have busted.

[A]

Could have drove here from D.C. well,

[B]

we don't know where he's coming from. Where were you going?

[D]

You don't know that. You don't know that the flight gonna keep pushing you. Yo, you got these rich people depictions of how the world works.

[B]

Yo, just.

[D]

Just jump on another.

[B]

Just helicopter in.

[D]

Yeah, it's not that simple, my nigga.

[A]

Nigga, I've seen a Dodge Ram commercial. Don't you got a Ram?

[C]

Like a rocket?

[A]

Like a rock? Yo, I thought you had a Dodge Ram. That shit make it over any terrain. A storm. What are you talking about? Now he's stuck at the. Wait till I tell Ram that you. That you was ducking airport.

[C]

So stupid.

[B]

Why you ain't get on the train?

[D]

I. What? Cause they kept.

[A]

Yeah, that's your move.

[D]

They kept moving the flight so you in the airport. My flight was supposed to leave at 11. They move. They don't. They don't move it to.

[B]

Oh, I got you 30 more minutes. 30 minutes?

[D]

Yeah. They give you 2, then 2:30, then 3, 3:15. Then they let us board the plane. We sitting on a tarmac for two hours. I went to sleep.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[D]

And was still on the tarmac. Nigga came back, they let us get off the plane, then gave us an oh, shit. Was a nightmare.

[B]

You just have to spend another night.

[C]

Clean up stories. Be fire. Yo. Yo, you practice that. Cause you old, so you practice that. Yo, your cleanup stories.

[B]

No way. He practiced that.

[A]

He tell the worst stories. Deal with like normal frustration. Like, yo, man, I went to sleep, then I woke up.

[C]

So you didn't want to drive this time? All the times you drive.

[A]

Then I walked off.

[B]

Then I called Uber.

[C]

Yeah, that's. Wow.

[B]

Then I had to pick X. Yeah,

[A]

his stories is just filled with 15 year old frustration.

[C]

It ain't nothing.

[A]

Yo, man, then I had to go to baggage place.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Yo, then I got thirsty.

[D]

It's all wrong with these two.

[C]

Yeah, I paid with a car.

[A]

Oh, damn.

[C]

Stop, Stop.

[A]

Oh, from DC Is crazy, though. That's the funny part. From DC is crazy. How long it take you to build algae? Have you been out there?

[D]

A little while.

[A]

What are you building? What the are you building?

[C]

Brick house.

[D]

You wanna see?

[A]

Yo, you wanna see a brick house? You know, a white brick house?

[C]

Ha.

[A]

Leave my man alone. Yo, he said, ha. Yo, I ain't it. No, for real, though.

[C]

How long?

[A]

No, I gotta take these jigs off. Cause I'm crying. Yo, listen. Oh, shit. No, for real. How long do it take you to build? Whatever you build it out there. Like, when will the project be done?

[D]

It's a couple months. I only been going down there a couple months and I'm not there consistently every day.

[A]

They cracking me in my. They cracking me in the ass trying to build a house. I'll tell you that one. They learning me at every turn.

[D]

I'm gonna come in here and say, yo, how long it's gonna take you?

[A]

They learning me. It's gonna take a little longer now. I tell you that much. You don't say, yeah, a builder's loan, then suck my dick. Not at all. Anyway. Oh, my God. One day on my telling on my Joe is telling the truth about podcast. Watch, watch.

[D]

You're still gonna be.

[A]

I'm guessing around October.

[D]

You're still gonna be lying.

[A]

Y' all gonna be so shocked when I tell y' all the truth about boy. Anyway, queen slip in the building.

[B]

I am.

[A]

Yeah. Wake up.

[C]

I mean, I'm here.

[A]

You gotta get. You gotta wake up.

[C]

I mean, I'll wake up when it's time to wake up. I let you get all your shit out, bro. Get your energy out, old man. Get it out. My man Ayo shout out to you, though. We gonna talk about it after the intro, the commercial. We get what you doing.

[B]

I.

[C]

People play Mark. He tried to find Mad to do now. Yo, hey, I gotta go to the car. I'm opening up a car wash. No, no, you get your stay your ass in the house. Family movie night.

[A]

I gotta get to work.

[C]

Yeah, we know.

[A]

Earth is expensive. It is.

[D]

You ain't lying.

[A]

Earth, expensive.

[C]

We should laugh at our man Ish.

[A]

I seen somebody on X, they were saying, yo, they raised the prices on anything during the pandemic and never put them back down.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Like, earth is expensive, buddy.

[C]

That's a fact.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Let's see here. Let's have some fun. Come around me. Sighing and making weird sounds because I'm not asking, what is wrong with you?

[C]

Word.

[A]

I'm not on God in emotional fishing. Something's wrong. Respectfully, just say it with your chest.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

And the funniest part is people, you know, they will sigh like they're in the final, final scene of a war movie. Like, then they'll start aggressively cleaning something, you know, opening and closing cabinets, looking out the window dramatically. Oh, God. Like they just received devastating news.

[D]

Congratulations.

[A]

The performance has been acknowledged. I'm still not asking. Not at all. I know the game, okay? I know the second I go, what's wrong? The answer is always, oh, nothing. Excellent. Then let's both enjoy this absolutely nothing in silence. I'm a simple person. If you have something to say, please just say it.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I'm tired. Okay. I'm not decoding Morse code through exaggerated breathing. I'm not reading emotional subtitles

[B]

they're gonna

[A]

answer every question with it's fine, but perfect. I'm glad we clear that up. You never heard of joke? Mic check, 1, 2, 1, 2. Mic check, 1, 2, 1st, 2. Always for the ladies. Always for the ladies. Big jersey. Big jersey. So you can see that.

[C]

Hey,

[A]

y' all went outside for this, man. Shout out to everybody on vacation. Everybody moving around out there except parks. Just let the music go.

[C]

I'm Mike Jones.

[D]

Hey,

[A]

Hope, Texas. What's going on out there? I know it. David banner. I made a mistake one time and went on tour out there on the Midwest with David Banner and Lil Flip. Oh, my God. It's such a mistake.

[C]

The closure that most girls really freeze. And this is how they gotta make their money.

[A]

Dig like me. All right, man, let's get to the proceedings. Let's get to the proceedings. Whole Florida. What's going on out there? Shrek, what up with you? Yep.

[D]

It's a point, by the way. What Said that's a point.

[A]

The plies. All you going to do is turn your back. The second plies is announced with somebody. You ain't riding replies. I ain't rolling with that no more.

[D]

That's a point.

[A]

He ain't getting me again. It's a point. Unless he go against somebody.

[C]

No,

[A]

Big face, honey. This is a point against a lot of people. The Weber nitty era.

[B]

It's the network.

[A]

All right, Parks, what episode is this? All right, what episode is this? Should be 952. Who knows, man? Who knows? I don't know. The fans will tell me. Y' all will figure it out. Welcome to episode 952 of the Joe Button Podcast, brought to you by Powered by Fuel, by Prize Picks, Prize Pitch Gang. You, I'm your humble, gracious, grateful, extremely happy to be here. Whole Joe Button here with some amazing people. Best panel of host in the world to my right.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Queens get the money. You know the vibes. Queens, Flip is in the building. Flip, what's good?

[C]

What up, dog? I'm in the building. I'm here.

[A]

Awesome. Next to him, our good Brother, Philadelphia's finest, Dr. Mark Lamont Hill in the building. Mark, how you doing, man?

[B]

Great, man.

[A]

Good. Absolutely love that. Next to him, still Lincoln and build. I mean, building his house out there in D.C. you know the vibes. King Wawa, Mr. Thousand doors and up. Mr. Wear the matching T shirt when we go on a group trip with strange couples.

[C]

Biggie

[A]

next to him. You heard of the Hit show. The bear, he's just bear ass. Bear, bear ass.

[C]

Wait.

[A]

Bear ass. Mr. Take it further. Himself. Big freeze in the building.

[C]

Freeze.

[A]

What's up with you now? What's up?

[D]

What's up, man?

[A]

Good, good. Good to have you. Poe is here, Corey is here. Erickson is here. Tanner and Savon are here by remote. Last but certainly not least, each and every one of you very important people out there are here. Distinguished panel. What's poppin, though? What's cracking? How y' all doing?

[C]

We in the building, man.

[B]

Good day, Good day. Good energy.

[A]

Good, good. We love that. We love that.

[D]

Before we got started, we was watching this video.

[A]

Lady, was it?

[D]

Lady and her husband.

[B]

Yeah, it's a safari.

[D]

So the whites, what happened? Bring it down, man. It was two different videos. One, the lady and her husband was getting in the car, and the tiger just came and grabbed the lady and just snatched her and pulled her away. And these niggas like, yo, I'd have

[A]

just let her go ahead.

[D]

I'm like, yo, fam, you gotta instinctively chase your wife.

[B]

They was like, sometimes you gotta go against your instincts.

[D]

Instinct to live, yo.

[A]

The man was like, instinct to live, right?

[D]

Yo, dawg, that's crazy, fam. You would. You go chased?

[B]

No, but the other one, the other one, even more so.

[C]

Because.

[D]

Let's talk this one.

[B]

Because in both cases, I'm like, no, don't around. Put your hand in the animal mouth.

[D]

No, right by the animal, right? So the other one, they was on one of them safari trucks. Yeah, the truck. And the lady just happened. Holding her arm out the window.

[B]

Being white.

[D]

Being white. And the lion. The lion face is right there, like, oh, yeah. He waited for a minute, like, all right, so I'm pussy is what you're telling me. I'm just a sucker out here, huh? And he just learned you something.

[B]

And once she got her hand grabbed, you on your own, that's when you

[D]

reach in and you punch the lion and you try to make it let it go.

[B]

I would do that.

[D]

I would do all that.

[B]

But once it's clear that he ain't letting go, he ain't letting go. You got the fuck out of the punching the lion.

[C]

So you letting your wife get captured by animals?

[B]

No, my wife let my wife get captured by a lion.

[A]

Are you attempting.

[C]

I'm saying he don't need both of us. Are you attempting to. You're not attempting anything, honey. You on your own.

[B]

Not if it ain't gonna end good. I'm dead ass.

[D]

You a man, bro. You Just gonna cue the. You gonna just cue the. Set it off. Music on your wife, basically. I mean, look, the saxophone start playing. We gonna. She stuck her arm out the motherfucker.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

We gonna remember her.

[B]

Well, I'm gonna raise the boy. You know what I'm saying? Put something in her name. I would save her if she could be saved. But all this hero shit where we gargle down with the plane or some shit, or the boat. Nah, like, I can't swim. If she drowning, I help.

[A]

That's a great point, though. When you sit in the emergency seat on the plane and they ask you all them questions and you lie.

[D]

You lie for the leg room. Yeah.

[A]

One time I told the truth, though. Like, yo, I'm not gonna help these people.

[D]

You said, you sent your ass back

[A]

to an economy, nigga. Definitely gonna be the first person to jump off in the event something happens. And they was like, well, if that's your answer, we have to move here. I said, all right, bet. I'll help you to people. I'll hold the door while all our lives are in danger.

[B]

After you.

[D]

I don't think nobody going. Well, I can't say nobody, but I'm not.

[A]

Yeah, if. If I'm the one responsible for the door, we all dead. I don't know how to open that. When they talking about. When they talk. Telling you the instructions on how to get the parachute out the seat. Open the door. I'm not listening to none of that. You ain't lying at all.

[D]

Don't fall down a mask. I don't know how to do none of that. Put yours on first and then help your neighbors. Well, I'm gonna put mine on. Don't you worry about it.

[B]

And if it don't work, I might use his.

[A]

You end up at the mercy of whatever crowd you're in at the time of the threat. Yeah, which is scary. I'm relying on a citizen. If we on the plane, I need a door open now. You can get stuck with some idiot. You can get stuck with the Insurrection crew. All them niggas out there look like complete idiots. Every last one of them that took off. I don't care if you had pto. You niggas looked stupid up there. They did. They did. And I finally got to the last few episodes of Widow's Bay and came to the same conclusion. Oh, this is a town just full of idiots.

[B]

I ain't seen it.

[D]

I ain't seen it either.

[A]

No, I cut it off after episode nine how many? I wasn't rushing into ten. It's only ten episodes, but I. But I had a brand new episode of Furious on the side. I wasn't about to keep watching Furious on Hulu.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is it scary Furious?

[D]

Yeah. No, I seen.

[A]

No, it's about a female serial killer.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And a female detective that's chasing her, but, yeah, I wasn't. Widows Bay, y' all got it. Yo, a town full of complete idiots. It's important where you live in this country.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Well, Joe, speaking of things to watch.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

There's an exciting new crime show coming out.

[A]

Way to go, Mark. Hey, Mark. Every time something of mine pops out there on the Internet. You don't have to come here.

[B]

I'm trying to support. I'm supportive.

[A]

I already got your support, my brother.

[B]

Thank you. I got your support already, but let's hear it. Could you do me a favor and cue it.

[A]

Sign one apiece.

[D]

But you just so happen to have. Now you gotta act like you gotta find. Where's my.

[A]

I just posted it on.

[B]

I heard him play it five times. In a way, he's resetting the lines and shit.

[A]

Here we go. Just because you asked for it.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

With True Crime, what is the address of your emergency? I've been watching it, reading it, and following cases for years. Oh, my God. I came up on Law and Order, SVU, NY Undercover, all of it. These shows made me look at crime stories differently. Not just what happened, but how it happened, who it would affect. And what it said about a gruesome story leads off our news. I promise you. I don't need to play this for you guys.

[D]

No, no. We need to hit this.

[B]

You've had a rough morning.

[A]

Studio in Advanced Local to bring you something brand new. Every week, I'm talking with advanced locals, reporters, professionals, finally, closest to the facts, the people closest to the story.

[D]

Joe, I'm here at the scene where police have been investigating throughout the evening.

[A]

I'm not just making another true crime show telling you the same story everybody else. True crime in real time. So whether you're as obsessed with true crime as I am, you love Law and Order. Or you're just a fan of what I've been. Y.

[B]

Good.

[A]

You heard enough.

[B]

Years.

[A]

Crime in America with Joe Button comes out next Tuesday. Find it on Patreon, YouTube, after Apple, or wherever you get your podcast.

[B]

Oh, that's a lot of money. Or wherever you get your podcast.

[A]

All of it. Yo, man, shout out to my partners. Dick Wolf. Wolf Entertainment. Advanced Locals, man. Headline Studios. Super excited. About this.

[B]

You should be, man. Shout out to people in Variety who did a front page story there in Variety magazine about this today. I don't know if you saw. Did you see Variety? You probably didn't get that. You don't read the trades.

[A]

I did read it, okay?

[B]

He's in the trades. They got a big story on Joe on this, man. It's very exciting. Flip, I thought we'd go to you for some feedback.

[C]

Yo, I'm proud of him. I'm proud of him, man. I'm very proud of you. Look at you, man. You can't stay down. You can't stay down. And now you building the house. You trying to find all this shit to get into. Look at you. Your voice sound proper. You see why he's reading the words? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Articulation at its finest. Hello, I am Joe Budden. Yeah. All of a sudden, no stutter, huh? Sound good, boy.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

How you feel, champ?

[A]

I feel.

[C]

Did you see the clip where the said he took a picture of Joe Button Forbes and the that did the voice?

[D]

Hey, yo, tell them, Joe, that I raised you, yo.

[C]

Said 50.

[D]

$50 to everybody.

[A]

I did see it.

[C]

How you feel, man?

[A]

I feel real good. Got a lot of support.

[C]

Next level shit. A lot of support.

[B]

It's next level shit, dawg.

[C]

So this is what you was telling us last year, right? You was telling us last year you just needed a couple more months.

[B]

Was this one of the things you were cooking that you were talking about?

[C]

Yeah. A couple of months passed now.

[D]

Boy.

[C]

Yeah. What we doing, Champ?

[B]

You look good. Yo, Flip. And you know, you know. Well, I guess you gotta go on the road now, too, a lot, right? Like to do the shows, you gotta meet with the locals.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So that means, unfortunately, like work, because you gotta do work. See how we set that up earlier?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You gotta go where work is, no matter what work is, you know?

[C]

Then you gotta do a vacation, too, at one point.

[B]

Nah. But he gotta go to New Mexico first.

[D]

That's kind of crazy. Now, you think about it.

[B]

Minnesota and Minnesota, don't forget. And Wyoming. A lot of crime in Wyoming.

[D]

Mad going on in Montana. Cause then Flip started putting boots on the ground, investigating stories and all of that. Different cities when something pop off. Swag.

[C]

Eject them.

[D]

That's what it looked like.

[B]

Oh, I didn't even think about that.

[C]

My man, he could do that. He could do that. It's okay. Cause we look out for each other. You know what I mean? We look out for each other. I support him. He Support me. Support me big time. You know what I mean?

[B]

Y' all work it out.

[A]

I'm open to what you're saying, but if what you're saying is true, that mean that Mark swaggerjack Flip? Because Mark is the one that's trying to get into his investigative journalism bag. Brian McKnight, Cheyenne Bryant, fake college dude.

[C]

I was doing that.

[A]

So that means that you saw what Flip was doing in July.

[B]

I was doing that when he was at Murray Bertrand.

[C]

Okay,

[A]

I don't think he was either. That was the host talking to Natalie Nun. Welcome to bet.

[B]

I'm here.

[A]

Everything was always prestigious. So why did you throw that glass? God, that's a dark period.

[C]

But shout out to you, bro.

[B]

Did you ever think you'd be spending this much time talking to cops and stuff? I mean, duh, you said ain't nothing new.

[A]

Duh, I haven't spoken to any police, Mark.

[B]

Ain't that what you said in the ad? You'll be talking to the police.

[D]

Local.

[B]

The local police, like the beat cops,

[D]

the ones that know you by first name.

[C]

Hey, Joey, was it Malik Yoba in

[D]

the Niggas got that bacon, egg and cheese. Just like, extra bacon, extra ketchup.

[A]

Crime in America. You guys be sure to check it out. Hopefully y' all enjoy this show. I'm glad I have the support of my brother. Even if this is what the support looks like, I'll still take it.

[B]

No, we'll do it. Just lastly, you know, he wants us more involved in doing TV coverage, so I think every episode we should do like, a little.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I'm with you.

[B]

We got you.

[D]

Oh, we got you.

[B]

We got you, big dog. Got you.

[A]

That would require y' all watching something and then coming in with a opinion on it.

[B]

We'll make an exception.

[D]

Don't worry about it.

[A]

I bet you will.

[D]

Sit some time aside for you.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that, man. What's going on?

[B]

Some other new is coming out. By the way, you see this Joe Jackson documentary coming out?

[D]

No.

[B]

Am I wrong for feeling up about this?

[D]

It depends on what you feel fucked up.

[B]

I don't want it to come out.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Because he's a fucked up dude, and I feel like they're gonna make him into a hero.

[C]

Oh, because Marlon is making it.

[B]

Marlon is executive producing it, so you know he gonna take all the ass whoopings out.

[D]

Marlon might not get that many ass.

[B]

The youngest.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

But Marlon was the worst one he might get. He might got all the ass whooping.

[D]

The youngest don't get the ass. They was successful by that time. Yeah, by that time we got the formula down. Yeah, we gotta whoop your ass.

[A]

Can you tell Joe Jackson's story without the. The beatings?

[B]

See, I don't think you can.

[D]

You can minimalize him.

[B]

That's kind of his thing. Yeah, that's kind of his trademark.

[A]

It's like Pepsi.

[C]

No, stop it.

[A]

It's the same with it. It's the same with Ike Turner too, Right? Cause Ike Turner has a recording career outside of Tina Turner.

[C]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

But you can't really tell the Ike Turner story without talking about what he did to Tina Turner.

[B]

And don't nobody give a fuck about the Ike Turner story before Tina it.

[C]

That's true.

[B]

The Ike Turner review ain't that interesting.

[D]

Amazing song.

[A]

I ain't about to try to get

[B]

me to Kate for him.

[A]

But what I'm saying is if. If all media outlets tell you what to think of somebody, then you're not gonna really think nothing else of him. Nobody talks about his greatness outside of that. They only talk about him in relation to his.

[C]

I'm saying.

[B]

Cause it ain't Carole King. Maybe one of the greatest songwriters of the 20th century, if not number one. Not an interesting dot, but nothing interesting to say about it. Right? A baby face doc, probably. Actually, a baby face doc could be interesting.

[A]

See, I'm told the interesting part.

[B]

Talent ain't.

[A]

But wait, hold up. Let's take it out of entertainment land for a minute. Because this is interesting to me, what Mark is saying. How many people on earth do you think just live a completely bland and uninteresting life? I don't think there's a whole shitload of them.

[D]

I think it's levels, though. I think it's levels to that.

[A]

Not in comparison to the amount of people on Earth, but to what the

[D]

masses would call interesting is a totally different thing.

[A]

Well, that's where you need producers and writers and people to come pull the interesting out. Kind of like me and Flip do to y' all every week. Like you need professionals to do that. Like that's just not on humans.

[C]

Yo, Corey. Yo, turn that off.

[A]

Yo, yo, Corey, what you order, man?

[D]

That's the dryer.

[C]

Turn the dryer off.

[A]

Corey. Being Spencer's just buying. Buying what? The what that story used to have the craft magics and all that. Was it Spencer's?

[D]

No, it wasn't Spencer Sears?

[A]

No. What's the store that now? Now I gotta think of it. It was Spencer. What Spencer's got. Spencer's had all the futuristic they had

[D]

the, you know what Craftmatics is? You talking about Sharper Image.

[A]

Sharper Image.

[B]

Yes. I was thinking Brookstone.

[A]

Yeah, Sharper Image. Sharper Image. When you was young. Well, let me speak for me. When I was young, that was the place that had all the. I wanted to be able to buy one day. I couldn't afford facts.

[D]

And they had all that. I'll let you use it like a

[A]

demo tour had that you just didn't even need pencils that resharpen by itself. All types of dumb in there. Anyway, I used to go in there. They used to let you use the. While it was on display. Anyway, I just said that. That's too long. I didn't hear you. Speak louder. Take that gruff out your voice. Listen, listen when talk bare ass. Anyway, what's going on? Joe Jackson. So Mark is disappointed about Joe Jackson.

[B]

Yeah, I just don't think it's gonna be interesting.

[A]

Even though the way they teased it didn't seem like they was gonna leave out the bad shit.

[D]

You can't, bro. You can't, you can't. How much are they selling you on to watch it?

[A]

And even the Michael movie had some of the bad shit. Maybe not to the degree that we needed it, but yeah, even the Jacksons know they gotta put some of that

[D]

in because that wasn't a focal point with the Michael shit. But it was just a battle between him and his father. This if it's about Joe, you can't tell Joe Jackson's story without asshole. Yeah, that's true. It's not possible. And again, back to what we were saying. What do people know you for? Like in his case, whip it ass. That's what he's known for. But we've argued up here about everything. That's true. But some people up here took a stance in his greatness. Like, you don't get the greatness out of them if he wasn't whipping they ass.

[A]

Oh, you said that.

[D]

You said that. Nigga, I was trying to spare you said that.

[A]

I was trying to spare you dumbass people up here. I remember that thing.

[D]

I was trying to spare you.

[A]

Oh, that was us.

[C]

Come out.

[A]

Come on out.

[D]

Speak French, Wee wee. I stood on the other side, but

[B]

so I stand on the other side.

[D]

I don't think you necessarily had to physically beat them to get the greatness out of them. No, I don't.

[C]

It's part of this story, man. The pressure that he applied, the constant practicing, regardless if you don't want to admit it, that led to one of the greatest groups of all time and the greatest singer of all time. He said it himself when he was alive, even though he didn't like it. This is what he stated. But see, so we always talk about what if. What if? Oh, it is. Let's show us another group that went through the same thing without the ass whooping that became as successful as them. Then we can compare.

[B]

Oh, you said if they were.

[C]

I'm saying show us.

[B]

I mean, I mean, no addition.

[A]

See, this is why one of us should have went to the cold show. We in here breaking down the Jacksonville

[D]

the ass woman part.

[B]

Though. I want to ask you a question

[A]

about the cold show too. Shut your whole ass.

[B]

Yeah, I know these niggas talk about Jacksonville, but I will say I agree that I don't think you get. I don't think you get the greatness out of them without the ass whooping. But I'm like, it's okay. Like, maybe we ain't need the greatness. It's easy to say now. I'd rather not have Michael. Like, I'd rather Michael Jackson work in Circuit City, you know what I mean? And be alive. Didn't get his ass whooping.

[D]

Nah.

[C]

Hell no.

[B]

How y' all choosing the ass whooping for Mike? Yes, yes, y', all.

[C]

When we started all that.

[D]

Yeah, N. Y' all some selfish up people, man. I mean, he made it, man, in the mirror.

[C]

He did.

[D]

No, but not from the ass whoopings.

[B]

I mean, kind of.

[A]

Nah, man, kind of.

[B]

I mean, drugs, self esteem surgeries, fire. All that shit came from the ass whoopings. Listen, man, fuck y', all, man.

[D]

It's a lot more great that came from the ass whoopings than not.

[B]

Why didn't y' all go to the cold show?

[A]

Whatever art they got in the socialist museum, I bet you is worse than the museum with all of the fucking. All the niggas on bullshit. Like, I just stand in that. In art, to the point that ish. That I said. I still, I do believe that in art you need duress.

[D]

Gotta go through something.

[C]

Sounds crazy, but it's true.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Now, I'm not saying that what that duress has to be, but the true mark of greatness for every artist is what they were able to endure, overcome, or express while they were in turmoil, not while the sun is shining.

[B]

I'm with you. But to be human is to have that turmoil. So the turmoil gonna come and the art gonna come. I'm just saying that don't mean like niggas make great art when they dad leave them. But you can't just leave your kid and be like, oh, he gonna be a great rapper one day. Like, you can't do. Or, you know, he could be a running back. Like, no, you gotta do the best you can. And when the fucked up shit happened, life will happen. I'm just saying if I could choose

[A]

a great rap career ain't never brought back a dad. Hey, y' all think y' all missing dad? Didn't hear y' all miss daddy. You had enough money and rap for the dad to pop back up. Like, hey, your new album, I never seen that. Sorry, I never seen it. Tell me what?

[B]

Yeah, Benzino and maybe Jay Z, she

[D]

got a little successful and then he popped up. You can't tell you one. We ain't heard nothing.

[B]

N't even know Jay Z dead mother.

[A]

Nah, that's fucked up. That's fucked up.

[D]

This nigga's crazy.

[A]

Don't do that to Benzino. We fuck with Benzino.

[D]

That's my man.

[B]

Damn, Ice. But still, that's flipping example.

[A]

I don't know Benzino to be a deadbeat.

[D]

That's him and his daughter said they popped back up.

[A]

Pop back up. Imply

[C]

him for majority of time of a teenage years and all that. So if you know why you said it's cool, why you said it.

[D]

If you know I a say nothing.

[B]

You gonna bump into him. I seen the new airport last night.

[A]

Cool. Hey, he still. He's still brawlic. We cool, man. He's still a little. He in the weight room. That hairless ain't gonna fly when. When fisticuffs start.

[C]

Nah, man.

[D]

Gonna take your shirt off and get away from. Slip right out

[A]

all ass. Oh, and that's a new perceived op for you, Benzina. Back to our op list. Back to our op list.

[D]

Nah, that's not. Nah, no way.

[A]

Perceived op. Perceived op. Someone that may not be an op, but because of something you've said on a podcast, an audience will assume that this person is your op. I got at least 30 of them. Y' all have some too. They're out there.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true.

[A]

Like, we got a hot topic on the board right now. I don't know why we trying to push it back to hour three, but, I mean, it does involve.

[D]

Which one?

[C]

It's a lot of hot topics.

[A]

It involves somebody's OP up here, so, I mean, I can't bring it up.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[C]

Show me, show me. I'll say it.

[B]

Them your OP flip.

[C]

Where's my op at?

[B]

I'm asking. I don't know what you're talking about. Nah.

[A]

Some shit about Rolling Martin. Let me see. Let me take my shade. Some shit about Rolling Martin.

[D]

They gotta put it up.

[B]

Roland Martin is not on the board. I a run from it. I'm not writing Holding Martin.

[A]

All right, so what y' all want to talk about?

[B]

We ain't got to talk.

[A]

We a got to talk about that, man. I don't want to bring no smoke.

[C]

Nobody. No, no, cuz he bring it our way. No way.

[B]

I ain't bring this your way.

[C]

Put me no. You would bring smoke our way? Once you get a wind of it. Once you get a wind of something, you bringing it. Nigga, let's light the fire.

[B]

I leave lots of shit.

[C]

Roland Martin never touched him. Tell me about him. Who is he? I don't know nothing about him. Put me on so I can co sign him.

[B]

Nigga, sit up.

[C]

Yo, what did he do?

[B]

Come on, Mark. The pride with which y' all be ignorant.

[A]

Come on. What did he do?

[C]

What did he do, Mark, Come on, please.

[B]

He founded a Black Star Network, made great journalists, a giant in black media. He also written multiple books. He was a CNN contributor.

[D]

Why he in the news today?

[B]

The news cycle. I didn't see the news cycle today, yesterday, the weekend. Oh, man. See, so here's the thing. I'm gonna answer your question. No, no, no, don't back down. I'm not backing down.

[C]

I just.

[B]

I genuinely didn't want and don't want to report on this on my own show. I haven't reported on it, and I've encouraged other people not to report on it. Okay, but since you're asking me directly. He got caught up in some drama with Tasha K. And she was tweeting this weekend about it, and, you know,

[D]

I found a tweet. Well, she says it's absolutely insane that I just received stills from a video allegedly showing Roland Martin inside a woman's home. And put in parentheses, not his wife's laid out on her bed appearing to be pegged. The fact that cameras are set up in a room. The fact that he allegedly sent her pictures of himself in a G string. This is only the beginning. I wish I could unsee this. Yeah, we've reached out to his team and are waiting a response. And then everything is allegedly.

[A]

Yo, I love when they put that at the end of the doc. You watch a whole doc of somebody's name getting dragged down, and then they all alleged. We've reached out to their team. No, they didn't reply.

[B]

But they did something. They did.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Update.

[D]

Roland Martin's team has confirmed to my team that the stills I received of him appearing naked in a woman's home that's not his wife. Are 100 authentic. He says he's being extorted.

[A]

Oh, he stood on it or not. Shut up.

[D]

He says he's being extorted. He also proposed that he would be suing if we or any other blog disseminates these hilarious ass images of him appearing to be in the leopard print thong.

[B]

So.

[A]

And leopard does match with anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

No, for real, for real. When my girl bought me the. When we did the whole head ass matching swim trunk thing, she got me leopard. I was put off at first, but

[D]

once I leper speedo my. You.

[A]

I didn't say. I didn't say speedo, but I mean, I ain't mad at a little leopard.

[B]

I mean,

[C]

yo, what the.

[B]

Yeah, you're.

[A]

Ass.

[D]

That is funny.

[A]

My.

[D]

You say whatever you want, but that's funny.

[C]

Yeah, he stood in it, huh?

[B]

I mean, crazy. I. I've done the research on this. I went back, I. I see the person who's doing extortion. I've read the story and I've spoken to the parties involved. That's what they were doing. And

[D]

you spoke to both parties?

[B]

I spoke to multiple parties involved. That's all I can say. This clearly is an extortion attempt.

[A]

That's corny.

[B]

And that's why I don't wanna. I don't like to.

[A]

That's super corny.

[B]

Cause I don't want you to think I didn't wanna report on this because it's my friend. I don't wanna report on it because I don't want to encourage these types of extortion attempts. If somebody is doing harm to somebody, if somebody is doing something illegal, maybe even illegal, although that's gray for me, I think, then we have a duty to report it. But if somebody's doing something in their personal life that's between them and the people who they did the consensual acts with. And if they're married or in a relationship, that's between them and the people they're in relationships with. And we don't even know their dynamic. I don't know enough about Roland's personal life to even know what his family dynamic is. I don't know if he violated his oaths, his vows, his commitment. I don't know any. I don't Know enough to say it's not. So I don't think it's our business. So for me, I always get a little anxious hearing people report that kind of stuff. It only matters to me if maybe you're like a public like a politician. Like sometimes the people who like sign anti gay bills and then you find them in the gay bar, that to me is a little bit different. But if you just living your life and you get caught up in a thong, that ain't my business.

[A]

If you live in your life and you get caught in a thong, it's your business. Until the person you trusted with these pictures is mad at you and put it online. Facts. Well then it's my business. Public business.

[B]

But it's also illegal. The problem is that's illegal. Revenge porn, extortion, blackmail. And that's what they're Roland's team is going after them for.

[A]

Well, I hope he's successful in it. Yeah, yeah, I hope he wins that.

[D]

I'm not a fan of none of that shit.

[B]

Not at all. Yeah.

[A]

You'll see these pictures when we are together again. I ain't sending them to your phone. Hell no. Me and the leopard. The leopard shorts.

[B]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you. Illegal recording, revenge porn and extortion are three things also.

[A]

So it's not.

[D]

He didn't even know she was being. He was being recorded.

[B]

I can't 100% confirm that, but based on the charges that are being alleged from the team. Yeah, it sounds that he even know he. It's not like let's make a video and then it slipped into the wrong hands.

[A]

Who the is alert and pegged. That's the other thing that would take all my concentration.

[C]

That would be gay.

[A]

I wouldn't be able to think about. Oh, oh, what's happening?

[D]

Turn the camera, turn the camera.

[A]

Yo, yo, yo, this. I'm just trying to find some light humor in a. In a real unfortunate situation. I've met Rob.

[C]

Rolling.

[B]

Rolling is super cool.

[A]

I hope he gets through this. Thoughts and prayers. Rolling. And this is fucked up. This could happen to anybody out there. So I mean, and he wasn't being

[B]

pegged in the video by the way. That's another thing Tasha corrected yesterday on her video. She said after because she. Because of the legal ramifications, she didn't show the video as she initially promised on her stream, but she did kind of watch the video and kind of narrate it to her audience, which is, you know, and she said that he was not being Paid. I don't want to get into the graphic details.

[A]

It's fine, buddy.

[B]

But there was no. Whatever you need to peg somebody with wasn't there. And I think it was important for. And according to her, Rollerstein made that clear. Because people were saying there was a dude in the camera. Not true. And that he was being pegged in the camera. Also not true.

[A]

Got it. But what was happening in the camera?

[B]

I think there was some digital play.

[A]

All right. Yeah. What's the next. I don't know what digital play is.

[C]

Digital play.

[D]

I don't know what, you know, what your digits are. How your digits are.

[B]

No fingers.

[A]

Oh, digits.

[B]

What, you thought I meant like the computer?

[A]

Yeah, I didn't know what the fuck you.

[B]

Yo, y' all really should have went to school.

[A]

It ain't too late.

[D]

Y' all can go back.

[A]

Thank you. Freeze. Thank you for that. Fine. Invent new ways to call us stupid. Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. Asap, Rocky. Asap Rocky reaches out to a dude on the Internet, likes his work. This is a dude that redoes logos, reimagines logos. He reaches out, he DMs, and he says, good morning, Allen. How much do you charge for brand logo revisions? Assuming you would be willing to do so. I would be honored. Love your work. God bless. Sounds very normal. Sounds like what you would do when you're a fan of somebody's work. The dude takes that and posts it publicly. And he was excited about it, but he posted it publicly. To which ASAP Rocky responded and said, this is just distasteful. Well, I guess we won't be working. Best of luck, buddy.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

And I see this happen quite a bit with talented people on the Internet that get to just being excited when certain people reach out. You gotta remember a lot of people as fans still. So the famous person reach out, hey, I'm a fan of your work. You want to post it publicly? They don't know that they cut their nose. Despite their facts. It's very short sighted. No, they are.

[C]

They ain't.

[A]

It could be about it. There's no. There's no entertainer that wants to see their private messages posted for public consumption ever.

[D]

No, I'm not disagreeing. I think that they almost look at it like an ad or like promo. Like, if Rocky fucking with me, then the common man gonna run to. To get their logos done. But you know what a better ad would be?

[C]

Post the work.

[D]

Doing the work. I'm not disagreeing. I'm not disagreeing.

[A]

Letting the work take place.

[D]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Letting the celebrity, once the work is done, be the one to talk about how amazing this experience was. And working with you. Look at this product I got. Even being able to put certain things on your resume, even if the celebrity never gets the word. Like, I don't get. I don't. I mean, I do understand it. I just am on the other side of it.

[D]

I agree.

[B]

People get so excited. You could DM some. There's people in this community who I wanted to do work with. Some of y' all recommended the person to me, and as soon as I did the follow, they posted that I followed them. So now people are watching the interaction, and it seemed like a good brother, and I wanted his help on something. But, like, now I'm like, if I know you're going to do that screenshot, just me following you and then make a whole story about it, then that makes me think every interaction we had was gonna be like that. And that makes me not wanna rock with you at all.

[D]

Make you not wanna do no business. You fucking yourself. And then other people see that. Oh, that's how that person move. Now, I don't wanna fuck with you.

[B]

Right.

[D]

Like, you really are making it harder for yourself.

[B]

Right. And I think people have good intentions.

[D]

Yeah. I think people are really, like, souped up about it and kind of put it out to the rest of the world, almost like a ad, like, yo, I'm working with this person, I'm working with that person. But they don't necessarily know the ramifications it could have.

[A]

And I saw this happen recently with a young lady. I follow where she was talking about she needed some money for college. And I guess Shaq reached out and offered.

[D]

How much?

[A]

Offered to pay. He asked her how much. She said a number, and he paid it. And I guess her understanding of what she thought she needed was different. So she posted the message and then went on a post about what she really needed and how she was gonna go double back and ask him. And yes, she said.

[D]

She posted.

[A]

She said he was really upset about it. He spoke to her about it behind the scenes. I don't blame him. She apologized, but that's something that I don't know if an apology ever unknows.

[D]

See, I really don't understand that one because here y' all already have had the conversation, and he's like, he sent some bread over to help you out.

[C]

If you.

[D]

If there's another, you need to reach back. You have some level of. Some line of communication already, right? Go and use that same line of communication and do whatever you did. But the point in, she poked. She repo. I mean, she screenshot the DM exchange. Then she went and screenshot, like the. The bill breakdown showing how much she really needed, posted that up, and then said, y' all tag Shaq.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

That shit was weird.

[D]

Yeah, it's disgusting.

[B]

I didn't understand it.

[A]

In my opinion, any advice y' all can give entrepreneurs out there to avoid

[C]

things like this, Stop posting the message. Yeah, don't post the message. Do the work. Seal the deal first. A lot of times, if someone is a fan of your work and you're receptive and you work out a deal, a celebrity will post your work. They may even tag you. And if they don't, like you said, you know what I mean? It builds a rapport. They may invite you to an event or somewhere where you could be able to capture a picture and then write under the commas. You know, this guy hit me up and you know what I mean? So you gotta be able to seal the deal. A lot of times, you niggas, you know, and the fuck that's saying.

[D]

And a lot of times, don't be afraid to ask.

[C]

Shoot your nose and spite your face.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. It's a way to do it. I'm just a fan of not putting my business out publicly anyway. So even if I was working with the celebrity, it would just be under wraps.

[B]

That's a fact.

[C]

You know what? It is real quick, too.

[B]

Same,

[C]

you know how when people either pass away or something happens, somebody would take a picture of the conversation and text conversation and DM and stuff like that. And it's not until I came up here where you guys were talking about it, I'm like, oh, that look crazy. It do look crazy. Because at some point, at one point, like, when somebody passed away, I wanted to post something, you know, I guess that's the era that I came from in my mind.

[D]

That's what I never understood.

[C]

I guess you're just showing the relationship, showing that I really knew the person.

[D]

You really showing the world or bragging to the world. Yo, I knew him.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

It's just a flex.

[D]

It's a flex. I knew them better than you did.

[C]

But being up here and hearing how Joe talk about it, that's one of the things I can say that influenced me, Joe. Like, man, that shit is corny. You niggas did it. I was just about to do some shit like that. Too. And I looked at it and I thought about it. Then I saw somebody else do it. Cause you know how the algorithm works, and it does look corny. And then you act like you talking to them. Yo, I miss you, man. You just spoke to me yesterday.

[B]

It's like, all right, so, man, the whole performance.

[D]

Back to your point about the entrepreneurs, don't be afraid to, like, once you get into the point where, all right, we're gonna do the work, ask them, hey, can you credit me for this? Or is it cool when you post this, can you tag me? Or some of them will do it.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But just don't be afraid to ask. But at least get to the point where you're actually secure at the job first. And that goes not just with. With somebody reaching out to you for work, but a deal you get, like, if they reach out to you and say, I remember I had got.

[B]

Which one?

[D]

This was a long time ago. No, no, no, no. This was years, years, years, years, years ago. It was. I never did an audition before. I never did an audition and.

[B]

Wait, hold on, hold on.

[D]

Let me go ahead.

[B]

No, no, come on. Just don't move too fast. I just want to. You auditioned for something?

[D]

Yes, I auditioned for something. I'm about to tell you what it was.

[B]

I'm just excited.

[C]

Go ahead.

[D]

This was a long. This probably was 2012.

[C]

We heard that part. Go ahead.

[D]

Back when MTV2 was revamping all of their.

[B]

Oh, this was visual.

[D]

This was. It was a show.

[A]

Yeah, Mark, come on, get the show.

[D]

Mark being a. I know Mark.

[A]

Mark being an.

[D]

But again, I ain't know no better. So when. And actually, Crystal sent it to me like, yo, they're doing a new show and they trying to get you down. I'm not trying to be down. I'm just telling you who it was. But they were like, yo, they reaching out to. Basically, they were seeing people who had any kind of movement on social media, so they were just bringing them in. And I thought that meant, oh, this shit was a done deal. I don't know. Again, I'm not from the entertainment world. I'm telling people, yo.

[C]

Yeah, this.

[D]

Yeah, I got this over here, man. Never heard from no again. I was mad as hell.

[B]

I know you.

[C]

What happened?

[D]

Y' all thought you was doing.

[A]

Yeah, man. It's probably cuz you told everybody, right?

[C]

Stop, Stop.

[D]

All right.

[B]

When you tweeted no. About to nail this audition.

[C]

You trying to say they didn't. They didn't pick Freeze for another reason. Don't touch Freeze. No he right. Freeze in the basement.

[A]

Yeah, you shot yourself in the foot telling everybody. I know. The audition tape was slamming.

[C]

Hey, hey, everybody.

[B]

My name is Ice.

[A]

Hey, hey, give us a little sneak peek. Give us a little sneak peek.

[B]

Please stop a line.

[A]

Please give us a sneak peek.

[D]

I will, I will. Can I preface this a little bit, though?

[A]

Go ahead, please. Your word.

[B]

I'm moving the mic.

[D]

I didn't even know what was going on. It was like, yo, just read this.

[A]

That's how it be.

[D]

A lot of times I didn't know, like, the. You need to be animated, nigga. I read that shit just like this.

[A]

Oh, y' all, listen.

[D]

Yeah, Next up, we have such and such coming from this right here, doing this episode.

[C]

And then.

[D]

Then we're gonna be doing this. And then they was like, all right, thank you.

[B]

Next. Next.

[A]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[D]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[B]

What was the show?

[D]

It was some new. I don't remember.

[B]

It's like a BJ kind of thing.

[A]

I'm mad, yo. My people. Go call your people.

[D]

It was like, yo, yo, yo, go ahead. I'm like. Like, well, wait, it's.

[B]

It's the.

[D]

When we do the second page, too. No, no, no, that's.

[A]

Go ahead, go ahead. Yeah. When you get home, delete MTV off your. Off your cable.

[D]

I swear to God, man.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[C]

Oh,

[D]

I hate you, you, and you.

[A]

I just love the fact that he told us, shout the freeze.

[C]

Salute.

[A]

Salute to Freeze Father month for even telling us something that he knew we wasn't. He knew it.

[D]

I know.

[A]

Was that the last audition you went on?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

By choice. Have you been invited to anyone? No, like, like, outside of this.

[D]

Outside.

[A]

Have you been invited to, like, speak anywhere else?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, this camera One camera.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

All right. Yeah. Give us a little taste of that. We at. Oh, I thought we blew it.

[D]

Yeah,

[A]

we went too far.

[D]

But yeah, man, to. To everybody. Just. Just secure it first.

[C]

How would you do it?

[A]

You ever audition for something?

[D]

Got to him. I didn't. No, I didn't.

[C]

How did you audition for a job?

[A]

Yeah. Yes, he has audition.

[C]

Like. Yes.

[A]

He do a lot of audition actually.

[B]

Or be interviewed.

[D]

So stupid, bro.

[A]

Sorry.

[D]

No, I never auditioned for nothing.

[B]

What you want me to say?

[C]

So what's your interview bag when you go for a job? Like, when Subways give us a little taste. When subways called you to come in, you went to the.

[A]

You went to the local subway.

[B]

What did you say to Jared?

[C]

Hey, yo, meet me. Yo, meet me. Meet me in Newark. At the subways. In Newark.

[D]

You probably got more in common with Jared than me.

[C]

What was some of your like.

[D]

Yeah, bro, it's an interview. It's not.

[C]

I mean, what did they say?

[D]

I don't remember. You had to make a sandwich, though, bro. No, I never worked in the subway.

[C]

Did you fold your hands when you're talking to him like this? Like, I don't.

[D]

It was 20 years ago. My. I don't remember.

[C]

I don't know. Their first interview. All right, man, so y' all had

[B]

no audition for this show, right? You just kind of came and sat down?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Worked at Toys R Us.

[B]

How did. How did you know

[D]

what you were

[B]

gonna get and what you expected to get?

[C]

It ain't no shit. That. That was in the rut. I gotta figure it out. Let me look.

[D]

Going down, the call on.

[A]

Oh, it's funny. That's what people keep saying. I keep hearing that.

[C]

What?

[A]

What? Joe Button was in a rut, Joe. I keep hearing that.

[B]

What else y' all got?

[C]

What else y' all got?

[A]

What else y' all got going on? There's nothing to address, Mark. It wasn't about experience at the time. It was about seeing something. These are two dudes that I told years in advance that they should be able to do this. Like, they have, like, some untapped stuff that they should look into.

[B]

Just. Just talking to them in regular life, hearing their stories and stuff. You thought, yeah, that makes sense, at least for y', all, because y' all. Friendship. I think part of it is the friendship.

[C]

He.

[D]

He's all. Jokes aside. He said this shit for. For years. Like, I started a podcast before that I didn't want to do because he said so. Like, I ain't want to do that.

[A]

Ish was going to do it, too, but he procrastinated, man.

[B]

So was you gonna do a podcast before this? Was he. Is this a Joe story? I can't tell what Joe God has

[A]

his way of making everything come together, man. No matter what your plan is for yourself.

[D]

Shout out to Lord up above, man.

[B]

That's me.

[D]

You, like, right under him.

[A]

You, like right under Vermont up above.

[B]

That's how he said it.

[A]

And the Lord right underneath that. Oh, you know, Crazy.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

You get to talk without a barbershop cap now.

[C]

I don't know nothing. I know, I know. I know you was in that barber, but let's get to that. You was in that barber shop more times than me. You was in there. But what you was doing, helping your man, you was in there.

[A]

I was in there looking.

[C]

My was smoking hot.

[A]

That facts.

[C]

Watch how you talk when you talk

[A]

about smoking hot, boy. It'd be subjective. It'd be smoking hot.

[B]

Don't do that.

[A]

It's like the 911 wings. Like, it's levels. It's atomic. Whatever they did, I thought it was. Oh, my God. Listen. Now it's time for Parks. I tell you one thing, buddy.

[B]

We about to go. Go fund me.

[A]

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[D]

So I know why. Why high as hell. Everybody ain't got it right. And why go out to eat, keep your ass home. And I'm with you. I'm with you.

[A]

100 that part. And definitely don't get to invite other couples.

[D]

True.

[A]

And I'm not talking about them cuz I'm sure they had it. But let's talk about it. Here we go.

[B]

Put the bill or pay for each meal.

[C]

How. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[C]

Okay. So then.

[B]

Yeah, we're going to split it by cup.

[A]

Thank you for being a friend. Don't sing over. I'm trying to hear your man in the background. At this point in the video they pulled the calculator out.

[D]

Too much talking. Yeah, we could. I mean, I mean, I don't know.

[B]

Does that mean we got a of lot?

[C]

Hey,

[D]

put the door.

[A]

And this is when they outside before the stream cut off.

[B]

Like I would.

[A]

You got to listen closely to hear the tea in there.

[C]

Pay this.

[B]

I would have went up to pay

[D]

it and be like all right, let's go.

[B]

We'll just, just, just talk about it later.

[D]

Talking about stop. What are you talking about?

[C]

I with you but stop.

[D]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Like I'm not on content.

[D]

What are you talking about?

[C]

I'm not either.

[B]

What are you talking about? I love.

[A]

I'm not on content. By now you get the gist. They about to fight in the background. She says we're on stream. They cut it off. That's that. What do we take away from this and how can we help America again? America needs a mother. America needs guidance role model.

[D]

That's a father like dog. It was too much talking. If you going out in my opinion and how it was. If you go out and there's four couples or three couples or whatever the case may be. Customarily how I was raised. The men pick up the bill and divide it equally.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

So the bill's a thousand dollars. It's four couples. It's 250 a pop. That's just. Just easy. I don't give a If you had a water. You had. We busted down a Louis xiii. Customarily how it happens.

[B]

I'm not even doing that.

[A]

I'm with you.

[B]

Because I'm not even doing that.

[C]

I'm paying the whole thing. Yo, this is.

[A]

And I'm on. I'm not talking about you, but I know you carry pause. This is what's said when these talks come up. Like, what you saying is what? Like, men have learned what you're supposed to say when these talks come up. I've seen it with my own eyes too many times. Get to. Got to take a phone call, got a pee. They in there for Madlon longest piss ever. Sit there and start just looking around. Won't even fake grab for their wallet. So, I mean, yeah, men know what to say, but when put into that situation and the Chase account ain't looking a certain way, men get silent. Yeah, men get silent. They forget. Men rules.

[D]

Man rules need to stay their ass home. You know what their account look like before you get in the Uber, before you get in the car, you know what their account look like. And if you and your chick are together and y' all don't got it and y' all ain't discussed this prior to sitting down, don't go.

[B]

But what happens? Cause I agree with that. The only thing I could think of sometimes. What happened, though, is say we all go on to dinner, and then I'm just say Flip decides he want to buy a bottle of something that cost $1,000. And now we dividing that forward. You see what I'm saying? Like, if something OD happened where I could reasonably expect that we was going to. To spend 300 on dinner, and now suddenly that 300 turned to 5. 550 because we divided that bottle up four ways.

[D]

It's not. It's not fair. But to me, you asking my opinion, you got to eat it.

[B]

I don't drink. I'm saying that to the question of, like, don't go out if you ain't got it. I might have re. I might have budgeted for what was, like, in the bounds of reasonable.

[A]

So what do you do as the guy that don't drink when Mark's situation comes up?

[D]

I split the bill all the time.

[A]

No matter what I give somebody.

[D]

So what happens with me is. And the people that have been out with me, they know when the bill comes, I don't drink. Niggas that had three over here and drinks cost. We in New York City Metro, that shit costs. I just split the bill. But in that instance that Mark is talking about, if you don't have it and you budgeted 300, and now, because this nigga ordered a bottle Of Louis, Trey or whatever the bill is. 600. It's a conversation. You get what I'm saying? It's a conversation. Yo, dawg, where's your.

[B]

You gotta humble out too. Just be like, yo, for the people out there.

[A]

Listen, listening. Where should that conversation take place?

[C]

Somebody pays the bill, somebody comes.

[D]

No, that's not true. Because you might not have it to go outside yet. But if you know that, that happens once the bill comes and you're amongst friends, then my friend be like, yo, dog, you order that bottle if you know you ain't got it like that. The second flip orders that bottle. Yes, that Louis, the 13th bottle that. You know what it's gonna cost? Hey, yo, yo, dogs, let me. Yo, listen, I ain't. I ain't playing for that.

[A]

See, that's more podcast dude talk should happen. Nobody sees it. When he orders that bottle. The guy that is on people talking, grooving. That guy told the waitress, lean in. You don't see it until that hit the table.

[D]

But when that check comes. And that's your man. Yo, bro, I ain't with that. You on that?

[A]

Yeah, listen, we talking about this Queen Naja. My. My first beef is with the waitress, cuz she handed the bill the Queen Nausea. That's off already.

[D]

She is.

[A]

That's off already.

[B]

Why?

[D]

She might have recognized.

[B]

That's what I thought.

[A]

Because that's a woman.

[B]

Oh, that's a woman. I give it to the famous person too, probably if I was away.

[D]

No, it's supposed to be. Supposed to give it to whoever a date is, if you recognize her in his household.

[A]

Don't abide to some of this.

[B]

Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't assume that. I wouldn't assume that.

[D]

I would think today they're gonna give

[B]

it to the famous person as. As a. And I've been a server. If I was. If I was at a table back in the day when I worked at like TGI Fridays. If I'm walking in the table and I don't know Eve is in there, I'm just picking a famous person and a table full of people. I'm probably walking up to Eve and giving her the ticket just. Cause that's the. I'm assuming that's the person with the money, and I'm assuming that's the person paying for it or Jill Scott or whoever. That's how I would be thinking about it if I didn't know nobody else. Now if she was there, and it was clearly if Jill Scott was sitting there on a date Yeah, I might hand it to her.

[A]

Queen Nadia is saying it's couples out. It's call it four men here, but

[C]

that's what I'm saying.

[B]

It's a table full of people. You got to pick somebody.

[D]

True.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Sit it in the middle.

[A]

Four men for you to choose from. Or you sit it in the middle

[D]

of the table, figure it out, hand

[A]

it to Queen Najah because she's famous.

[D]

And bigger than that, part of your job being the waitress or the server is you assess the table every time you coming back.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So if you think Queen Najah is the big fish at the table, you give it to the man that you've observed being her man.

[B]

What if Queen Najah asked for the bill?

[D]

That's different.

[B]

So who asked for the check in this case? Do we know?

[D]

No. Joe said she just walked up and

[B]

gave it to me. What if somebody asked for it before they do that?

[D]

What if Queen Naja is there? Dolo is some couples, some not. I'm just. We just.

[B]

I'm giving.

[D]

You get what I'm saying?

[B]

I'm giving it to the person who asked for the check, who said, can we have check, please? If that person. Cause usually somebody asked for the check. Rarely, as a server do you just walk up and especially people that are spending money, you don't want them to go.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I would give it to the person who asked for it. But if no one asked for it or I wasn't sure, I would probably be honest, give it to Queen Najah myself. My instinct would be to give it to the famous person or just announce.

[D]

You walk over there and be like, yeah, I'm just gonna sit this and then wait for somebody to be like, oh, no, I'll take it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause even in Queen N', Jah, pulling out the calculator or saying, yo, we busting this down amongst couples, I didn't interpret that as. As Queen Naja don't have the money to pay for this bill. No, I took that as Queen Naj is probably tired of being the person that has to cover for all of the people that we outwit. I think she want to say none. So you know what? Let's get a calculator. Let's get a pen and pad. Let's see who ordered what. Me and him ordered this. I'm not just putting the bill for some couples that I may or may not have just met on the vacation. What are we doing? Because I am who I am.

[B]

I think that's fair.

[D]

1,000%.

[B]

I don't think I'm right to do that. Just as a waitress. I know that server mentality. You know what I mean? You also think of who's gonna give me the biggest tip as a server, I'm thinking, where am I gonna get the biggest tip from?

[A]

This tip is probably included.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. But I'm just saying, even though you might put some extra on it, but, like, as a server, that's what you're thinking is what. This is my livelihood. Let me think who gonna give me the most thing. Now, if you get past regular restaurant etiquette, there's rich people, restaurant etiquette. There's no way I will go out with y' all and expect us to be divided. Dividing the bill or pulling our cash. Somebody paying that bill, all of you. Unless it's something stupid. I mean, like stupid stupid. I'm expecting Ish to pay the bill. I used to pay the bill. I pay the bill. You pay the bill. When we went out, I was gonna reach for it. You had to reach for it first, and your reach is longer, so I'll let you pay. But, like, you know, my arm is a little short, but. But, like, I would have absolutely just paid the bill. I couldn't imagine me and you putting two cards on the table, and I couldn't imagine Venmo. Ing you a couple hundred dollars. That feels like that's crazy to me.

[A]

Why?

[B]

At our. Because we got.

[D]

Cause you got it.

[B]

Cause you got it. I got, like, all of us up here got it.

[D]

Enough. No, he's saying that. No, I'm not saying just you. All of us.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I don't expect you to pay. I expect one of us to pay

[D]

somebody to pay the whole bill.

[A]

But if I'm Venmoing somebody, it ain't. Cause I'm assuming they don't have it. It's a sign.

[B]

I'm just saying it's too small.

[A]

It's a show of. It's a show of character.

[B]

I expect you to offer it. You expect me to say no?

[A]

No, I'm not saying offer.

[D]

I'm saying the last time we went to say less, you took the bill, and I was like, yo, you good. You and you like, nah. I was like, all right.

[C]

Like, I.

[D]

Me and Flip have fought over the bill before. Literally, like. Cause he want to pay, and I'm

[C]

like, I got it.

[D]

He'll be like, no, no, no. Like, he do some ignorant shit and be one.

[A]

Well, that fight stops depending on the restaurant.

[D]

He ain't give you a tussle,

[B]

tussle.

[A]

And fight at it.

[D]

Flex it off.

[A]

Fuck it, Jabri.

[D]

No, but that's tough. Know what happens, though, at the end of that shit? You look at the people different. You know what I mean? You don't want to go out with somebody.

[C]

I was out with Eric B. And Starr, and that's where they started that shit. Like, Eric B. Was like, yeah, oh, yeah. No, I was out a long time ago. And that's where it started, though, where he was like, nigga, we not splitting no bill. Like, what are you doing? How much?

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

If you want to talk about that, we talk about that outside. We're not going to sit here and congregate and look like that.

[D]

Especially with no math. Don't become a mathematician. That shit is disgusting. But I feel like.

[A]

And again, I believe that life experiences help to build character. I feel like to know that and to learn that, you have to have been on the other side to feel what that feels like. You had to be out with a group of people that wanted to pull a calculator out. You had to be out with a group of people that didn't see nothing wrong with putting 12 cards here and pissing the waitress off who gotta go individually, swipe like. You had to be there to feel what that's like, to know. All right, we can't do that. And some of it is privileged because you work your way out of having to live like that. If one. If the check is 1300 and one of y' all come hassling me, like, we would fight.

[D]

What you mean?

[B]

I didn't order mozzarella sticks.

[D]

What you mean, who ordered grand? I had no grantageous potatoes.

[A]

And then that's what happens when you go out with the large group where they ain't on, and you got to explain gratuity, why it's included already. I've been in every. I ran out on the check. Sorry, Nancy.

[D]

I don't want to be around on people, bro. Maybe it's me. I'm not trying to be funny or none of that, but I grew up with a bunch of people that was in the street, so we didn't really have those type. And so I got those lessons from that. I'll say I got lessons from that to where I never really experienced that.

[A]

But if you grew up on the other side with, like, the people that your friends were serving in the community, like, then you would have the other. The victims. You saying that shit so cool.

[B]

No, I Wasn't saying it like. I'm just.

[D]

No, I'm just telling you that's where my experience came from.

[A]

The victim's experience, though. We put the poison, but we had Dead ihop. Dead IHOP struggling. Why you out here and supply shit.

[D]

Learn from that. Like, yo, we not doing none of that.

[A]

Don't come hassle me over thirteen hundred dollars either way if I'm paying it. Or you paying it either way if I'm paying it. Don't interrupt me pulling out your little. Your little capital one card if I'm paying it.

[D]

Some hassle going on 13, honey. Some of that back.

[A]

Big Dog, he ain't playing, Joe.

[C]

Call me whatever the fuck you want.

[A]

You.

[D]

I hassle you.

[B]

I think 1300 is a fair number to start hassling. Give me that.

[D]

No, it depends on how many people.

[A]

I looked around at the suite at the Jay Z shit, when the motherfucking check in, everybody was glued to the stage.

[C]

Rock boys in the building.

[B]

I didn't know it was no. It was no.

[C]

Hey.

[B]

Ish.

[A]

All right, go.

[C]

Told you.

[A]

Dirt off your shoulder. No, no, that was. Yo, that check came these and Sweet was singing Sunshine, the worst Jay Z song ever.

[C]

It was up there.

[A]

Like, you know what? Don't worry about it, man.

[B]

This my. I know girls like, yo, hell, yeah.

[A]

And now you can't interrupt. You can't now, cuz. You corny. You can't interrupt nobody watching the show to say, hey, man. Hey. Hey, look, y'.

[D]

All. That's a Look what came.

[A]

Yo, it came. Look what came, y'. All. I just went. Took every bit. It's fine. And that's just.

[B]

Yeah, the fool. You know this nigga lying, right?

[A]

I'm not lying, but it don't matter.

[B]

You left. You wasn't even the last one there. You left in the middle of the show.

[D]

That mean you ain't pay.

[A]

Oh, you think the check comes at the end of the show? See, that's my point. That's kind of. That's kind of what I'm saying.

[B]

The nigga was sitting in front of me the whole show is what I'm saying. He didn't get. The nigga was sleep the whole time. Ain't nobody come out with no check.

[A]

At some point they paid a check.

[B]

I ain't seen no check. There was no check.

[C]

You ain't seen no check.

[B]

You know the fool got taken something

[C]

they ain't giving away from for free.

[B]

This.

[D]

We was still outside with the check, right?

[B]

How about that?

[A]

We was in line getting Taser that's what it was right there.

[D]

That's.

[A]

That's what it was.

[D]

That's going freeze.

[A]

Ignored every pastrami sandwich in that boy. I had cats coming. Great queen cat cats came himself to make these. These. Talk about something. You belong to the city. You belong to the night. I'm looking around, and then my girl is looking at me, too. So you got that boy. Come. All right, y', all, come on. Come on. I can't wait for y' all to start inviting me somewhere. Five figures, huh? No, no, no, no, no. It was five, six thousand, something like that.

[D]

No wings.

[A]

No. When I get the sweet, I get food. That's why.

[D]

Oh, you're saying collectively, the sweet and the food was five, six thousand? No, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

When I get the sweet, I'm getting food.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

I ain't about to be in here looking parched.

[D]

No, no, I agree with you.

[A]

All the juice. Bring out all the juices and pick them all. Let's go. Fuck you talking. That's the worst thing in the world in the suite. Still looking like you ain't supposed to be there.

[D]

You gotta get the cabana. I mean, you can't go to the resort, no cabana. I'm with you.

[A]

I hit a nigga for the fucking Chris Brown Usher tickets this weekend. Hit, my man. You talking about you want a sweet? Nope.

[D]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Hey, big dog. The hell no? I'm sweet.

[B]

I want the sour.

[D]

Give me the sour seat.

[A]

You got word what you get sweet happy. They'll learn you because there's another concert you're gonna want to go to. That's what happened with the private jet. When I got stuck in Turks and the only way I can get back was the private jet Took the private jet, got back, I was like, you know what?

[D]

That ain't so bad.

[A]

Why are we flying the other way? Why? We at the mercy of traffic control. I mean, you still are, but still. They'll get you out of there.

[D]

It's different control.

[A]

They'll get you out of there. Queen Naja, we absolutely love you. Hey, drop them zeros. 1300 is eight of y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Y' all made that queen pool calculator

[D]

out six of them.

[B]

That's ill, man. Don't know.

[A]

Then they had the nerve to say that.

[D]

One of them had the nerve to

[A]

say, hey, we were supposed to become something.

[C]

I heard.

[D]

I thought that's what he said. No, he said this meal was supposed to be.

[A]

We was supposed to become something.

[D]

I thought that's what.

[A]

Hey, that's why you got to be kidding. Careful what you asked for. You'll get the answer. They told you what was called? Oh, yeah. No, we comp 200 of. That's embarrassing. Oh, we comp 200, bro.

[D]

I got a friend from my hood.

[A]

This is a true story.

[D]

He my man. Like he like a brother to me.

[A]

Cory know Cory. Cory don't. Cory don't.

[D]

He's definitely know bro.

[A]

This Karen civil?

[D]

No, this go on a date with a coupon. First date with a coupon. Swear to God. I'm like coupon to a restaurant.

[B]

First problem is you going to a spot to take coupons.

[D]

I'm not lying. Some just really be like that. And the got.

[B]

He no broke.

[D]

He got paper. Some is just frugal. I promise. You got money.

[B]

I believe you

[D]

be picking through the bill.

[B]

Hold on.

[D]

Let's walk it back a little bit. That's bad. Like if she don't know, that's bad. Yes. Why you got dick. I'm trying to say.

[A]

God damn right.

[B]

I would use a coupon if she

[D]

don't know and she don't know my. You got. Yes, yes. What's your stance? I don't care what his stance is.

[A]

My stance on using the coupon on the first date.

[D]

If she don't know, I'm just warming this water up.

[A]

I wouldn't do it.

[D]

I know you wouldn't crack you with the.

[A]

I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Tell me why that there's something necessarily ego wrong with it. No, it's not ego.

[D]

It is so.

[B]

It is ego.

[A]

Don't blame everything on ego.

[D]

A lot of shit be ego.

[A]

Sometimes it don't be ego. There's no shame in the coupon, so

[D]

why wouldn't you do it?

[A]

Sometimes you going out of your. Sometimes you end up going more out of your way doing things a certain way. Like if I'm on a date, I want all my attention and focus to be on the date. Not how I can pay this check without her seeing the coupon. I don't want to have to corner my waitress. Get up from the table, pay this over here. I want to sit here. I want to ask for the check like a man. Cuz I always want to present like a man. I'd like it to come and I'd like it to. For me to take care of it. That's how the date should go.

[D]

I don't want to come. You slip your card and a coupon in there and give it to her and she go in the back, they don't know nothing.

[B]

Oh, that's a good bit nasty though.

[D]

But to Joe's point, you still gotta hide. Find a way. Cause Shorty might be. Look, you know, girls get to. Oh, you want me to. You know what I mean?

[C]

And you bring the paper.

[D]

Sure. You slide your coupon and you fold it into eights.

[B]

Right.

[D]

I'm not doing it.

[A]

Then again, at a certain point, we not talking about the same establishments. That's taking a coupon.

[D]

That's true, but that's what Mark was saying. He's going somewhere to even take coupons.

[B]

If your band got bread, would you

[A]

do it at Carbone? And that's just the first place.

[B]

If they had coupons.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Ask me if I knew, she wouldn't see it. Yeah.

[A]

That would be your last time in Carbon.

[B]

Really?

[A]

That would be your very last time in carbon.

[D]

No, he said if they.

[B]

But they don't take Cuban issued. Cuba's.

[A]

You issued coupons. It's a setup. It's a trick. Cuz Carbones is not. You could walk right in.

[D]

You can't just walk in.

[A]

So. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Coupon.

[A]

Thanks.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

See, now try to get.

[D]

Now we're gonna put you on this list over here.

[A]

You will not kill. Or. Now, you could come on Tuesday morning, but you can come on Tuesday morning and get open.

[B]

But see, that's part of. That's part of the. That's part of the setup from Joe too. Because, like, that's not a real good examp. Like, at this stage in my life, I'm not looking for a coupon.

[D]

Of course not.

[B]

You get what I'm saying?

[C]

Is he rich?

[D]

That's why I don't think. I think you something. Cause you're a man's man.

[B]

You got.

[A]

He be friends.

[D]

Yo, you got an ego and a pride along with you.

[B]

That's why I'd be hiding it. If I didn't have ego, I would put the shit on top of the book. Like, here you go, 20% off.

[A]

No, I ain't pretending.

[B]

I don't got ego about. That's why I'm sneaking it.

[D]

No, Mark, Mark. I be sitting there. Hold on, hold on.

[A]

I'm supposed to get 20?

[D]

No, this wrong.

[B]

Wrong.

[D]

No, this has to be 20 off. Can you fix that? But I said ego.

[B]

It's ego for me.

[D]

Call it pride, call it. Y', all whatever the you want.

[A]

If you want a first date, let me try to advance it. If you want to. If you want a first date and you order something and they bring it out and you don't really love it. Would you ask them to take it back?

[B]

No, no, not now.

[A]

Would you ask. Would you ask them to remove it from the check?

[D]

No.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I don't do that.

[B]

Those are two different things for me.

[D]

But, yeah, I have been.

[A]

I meant to remove it.

[D]

I have been on a date where, like, it's. It's the meme and where I, invisibly upset, don't like this. And she'll do it. She'll, yo, this is wrong. And then they'll. They'll just say, okay, I'm sorry. We'll fix that. I've never sent anything back.

[C]

Sometimes they'll take it off themselves, though,

[B]

if you just tell them that you're restaurant.

[A]

But I'm saying if they take it off, you never paid with coupons.

[D]

But flip.

[B]

But if they miss it, I'm not even letting them know.

[D]

I'm not even letting them know.

[B]

But ice, if you miss it, you're just taking the L, right? Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I think you just take that. I'm never haggling over a bill in front of nobody, but if I was in a situation where I needed to save money and I needed a coupon, my ego would stop me from putting it up, but I would absolutely sneak it in there with no problem.

[D]

I'm not gonna hold you if I knew I didn't have it like that. For real.

[B]

For real.

[D]

We just gonna. I'm gonna put my creative brain to use and go on a different date. I'm going on the Haagen dials on the water. You know, that's my backpack in the.

[A]

Don't want that.

[D]

Today is crazy. Different girl.

[A]

Different girl. I'm playing.

[D]

I'm doing coffee. I'm doing something else that don't require me to spend 6, 7, $800 coffee days.

[A]

You asking up real I the date. You don't need a date to get it done.

[D]

You don't. I'm just saying. But no, if I wanted to go spin again that hog, I text you

[A]

consistently for two weeks straight. You go, you going to love it. You know, you know ain't never had love. Never got no real attention shown. Text them for two weeks straight like you care. And first, that'll get it done daily first.

[D]

I ain't gonna hold you. And I know y' all could judge me, but y' all know I don't give a fuck, nigga, I still price check.

[B]

What do you mean, price check?

[D]

Price match. Price match.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait, what does that mean? I really don't know what that means.

[D]

All right, so example, if I'm in Best Buy, I'm in Best Buy buying something.

[C]

Hey, you check the Amazon shit, You damn skippy.

[B]

Wait, you go find a better deal.

[C]

Deal.

[B]

And then you.

[C]

And then you gotta show it to them.

[B]

This goes in, yo.

[D]

Amazon.

[C]

Yep.

[D]

Target. Oh, Target. Best Buy, Amazon. Here, look. Let me show you.

[A]

He does that, and they give you.

[D]

They give it to you for that price.

[A]

See, that's why I keep hair on my body.

[D]

Hey, y'. All.

[B]

Welcome.

[D]

A couple of y' all do it too.

[A]

Greens is crazy.

[D]

I'm hairless in some areas. I'm not doing that, bro. Again, I just. I don't have the time to do it. I do. If it's a drastic difference.

[A]

Where you even find that?

[D]

At Amazon?

[A]

Jersey Journal?

[D]

No.

[A]

Amazon. What paper?

[C]

That's in.

[D]

No, there's a rule Amazon, my nigga. It's a rule that all of the big stores have because they were losing so much business to Amazon. Cause Amazon is cutting everybody short, and they doing that quick delivery.

[A]

So you walk in Jennifer convertibles and show them what Amazon is doing.

[D]

You can walk in a store.

[B]

That's my.

[C]

That's.

[A]

Hey, I gave the example for reasons like this. This. Hey, customers like him is why I got into content.

[D]

Going price match on Patreon. They price match Patreon.

[A]

Yo, that Dick Wolf Patreon. $5 in the streets.

[B]

Oh, the streets is mad.

[A]

$5 you on the coupon. I love when the streets is mad about something. Raise me, raise me. Hey, when the streets is mad about something, that shit, it is valuable and profitable in my experience.

[B]

I've learned mine too. Turns out they cuz the. They were saying, you know, cuz Joe said you can watch my thing on Patreon, so people thought you could just go to the Joe Button podcast Patreon.

[A]

I don't know why they thought that.

[D]

Oh, it's a whole separate joint.

[B]

Yeah, he charging $5 extra.

[D]

It's not even on crime time Patreon.

[C]

He got a special crime time crime time face.

[A]

Yo, go up and down. We over here now.

[C]

Talking about that house is expensive.

[D]

We got dope pumping on this block. Don't pump it on this block.

[A]

Y and I seen a fan. I seen a fan say, yo, I thought we was getting all of this on the chip. Why the you doing that? Hey, you could erase that one because

[B]

you got buses down with dick wolf. Oh, you got dick. Got three different people. We got buses down with.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. These are Partners.

[D]

And y', all, once it hit, it won't be $5 for.

[A]

No, no, no, that's not true. It'll be. It'll be $5.

[D]

I know.

[A]

And we can remove the once.

[D]

No, no, no.

[A]

That thing is out of here.

[D]

I believe you.

[A]

That thing is gone.

[B]

It's doing great.

[A]

Yes, that thing is absolutely gone. A lot of support out there. A lot of support out there. And Dick Wolf is Dick Wolf and Joe, you kill.

[B]

Y' all killing it, man.

[A]

Getting all that money, Mark, you killing it, too, man. Hold up now. Let's talk about it. So for those of y' all that don't know, we have. We have a community, which is the space that we founded to kind of do a bunch of. You can live stream over there. They got stations over there now. You can tweet, but it's not called tweet. We doing everything over there. You can build your own community. Build your own community. And one of the things.

[C]

Things.

[A]

One of the perks of being over there is the clipper tier. Oh, that was a big fuss. The clipper tier was a big fuss on the Internet. They was one of.

[B]

I was leading the charge.

[A]

I was like, this is.

[B]

Oh, from my finster. I was like, oh, man, this shit.

[A]

So they was heated. But the deal. The deal was, hey, you pay $500, you'll be able to clip up content from the Joe Budden podcast and pretty much do whatever. You're whitelisted, do whatever they want with it. Some people didn't see the value in that. A few totally understood what was going on. And I've been on the Internet saying, yo, this shit is a smash. This shit is fucking absolutely genius. And nobody that is actually reaping the benefits of this perk is coming back to say, hey, y', all, what y' all saying? I'm killing on this. But my good brother Mark.

[B]

I'm not killing.

[A]

My good brother Mark Lamont Hill went over there and paid the 5. I'm not gonna say whether he paid or didn't pay, but he is indeed a clipper. And ever since he has, like, Danny

[B]

Manning out this bitch

[A]

or God Holds, he is a clipper. And since he's begun, I see a lot of clips doing his stream for Mark. No, they're doing great. They killing out this. I text them on the side and say, you're killing. Shout out to you.

[B]

Which I appreciate, man. Yeah, it's doing okay. I mean, it's not, you know, nothing to, you know, for people to ask me for money for but it's. It's doing well. It's doing well, man, so far. First couple days, coming out the gate, man, it's doing well enough that I'm not even mad that Ian charged me the full 500. I was like, I thought Imani asked him about that. And he said, host get a three month. Get his first three months free.

[A]

Free, please.

[B]

I asked him about this. He said, let me call you right back.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta run that right by me.

[B]

Yeah, I heard from the sis free.

[A]

But you did tell me you tried to go be a crackhead.

[B]

I gotta pay. Well, because he announced. He announced the first three months.

[D]

He said it.

[A]

I gotta pay.

[D]

He said it, though.

[B]

Because he said it. He said, you don't have to pay.

[C]

That's what they do. That's what. Thank you for bringing that up. He just say some. When he wanna in the middle, like in the midst of something initially.

[A]

It's not true. What he's.

[C]

Conversation changes later.

[B]

Act like you bug it.

[C]

Hey, yo, if you walk in the building, nigga, you still get paid. Well, hold on. Do I have to sit now? He say things, so get to some details.

[B]

Ian says the first three months is free. So then when I call him and say, hey, how do I not have to pay for the first three months? He's like, call you right back, buddy.

[A]

That's before we found out just how successful this thing was.

[C]

And you can make it back, though. You can make it back or double it.

[A]

Early in the game, you got to incentivize people, right? Listen, I was in the street in 2000, 2001. Listen, you young kids ain't gonna believe it. Red Bull, when they was trying to become a company, boy, they used to come to the hood and you bundles of resume. Yes, they used to ask. We was in a studio in Queens. We used to take 20.

[D]

We ain't know that stadium in Newark.

[A]

Yeah, they would be. They'd be like, yo, do you need us to go to the car and get some more car?

[D]

They had the Red Bull car coming

[A]

around every hood, Jersey, Queens. So they flooded the streets. And after a while, it stopped. Oh, yeah, it stopped after a little bit.

[D]

They grabbed the bull.

[A]

Sure enough. Yeah. Sure enough. They did what they were supposed to do anyway. Mark, I'm extremely proud of you, buddy.

[B]

Thank you, man. Thank you, man. We're gonna keep building, man. I'm gonna start adding more, too, man.

[A]

We gonna keep building. Speaking. Oh, go ahead, Flip.

[C]

No, no, no. So did you do what the other clip was do? Right? You just Put the clip.

[B]

No, I don't do what they do. That's why you see my returns a little different.

[C]

So what do you do? You just play the clip and then you.

[B]

Well, right now I just. I just want it. It's not even about the money.

[C]

Fuck the money.

[B]

It was an opportunity for me to archive my voice. That's all. I didn't. Sometimes I don't even hit the monetize button. You know what I'm saying? I just say, nigga, please, it's just about the voices. No, because like, on my page, you can see me in peers. You can see me all these places. The one place people couldn't see me was on Joe button on my YouTube channel. Channel. So I've now just add my clips, you know, but later on, if I get the motivation or if things start running low, I'll start adding some commentary on some of our segments. Got it.

[C]

Oh, oh, you.

[B]

But here's the difference.

[C]

Oh, you post on a clip of. Oh, God, I got. I thought you was commentating. Like, yo, hey, this flip right here. I tried to get up. I'm not gonna slap him. I thought you was doing like that.

[B]

No, I don't do that. Corny. Like, I'm never going to put nothing make you. I wouldn't do nothing to make y' all look bad.

[A]

Dog. This is just. Dog, this is a great idea. Some people get it, some people don't. Like, imagine if Denzel was fly with you calling it Red Magic. Like, Denzel tried to get homeboy to make him change the name. Imagine if he said, you know what, brother? Live.

[B]

Just give me this piece.

[A]

Live. Yo, go. No, if I honestly it little 500 lightweight.

[C]

No, no, no.

[D]

That's what. That's what Denzel was telling them to do. Denzel, you can't call it Blue Magic. No, Denzel and it up. No, Denzel told him, you can't step on it. Yeah, you can't step on my and call it.

[A]

Well, I'm letting you step on it for 500. Go ahead.

[D]

Putting out the same.

[B]

I'm doing a mashed potato in this.

[A]

Making wine out of grapes.

[B]

Hell yeah, man.

[A]

Speaking of platforms. Right? Speaking of platforms, do you brothers think that MySpace will be able to make its triumphant return?

[B]

No, no.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

No, no.

[C]

Because back in, Tom had enough time.

[D]

No, I think back in the day,

[A]

and now Tom has absolutely nothing to do with MySpace. It's not Tom.

[D]

I'm trying to be two brothers.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I'm away.

[D]

No, I think online, and they are

[A]

teasing my spaces in case y' all think that I'm just home daydreaming about 2005. They are teasing. Well, actually, they saying MySpace is back and they're urging people to use it. You were saying?

[D]

I just think that, one, we have the gram for public shit, and then number two, they got Dayton apps for private shit. So MySpace kind of put all your business on front street, you know what I'm saying? I think that the Dayton apps and what we people were using MySpace for back in the day, it's behind closed doors on Bumble for musicians.

[B]

It was for struggling musicians.

[D]

You know what I'm saying? It's just different. I think. I think they missed their wave.

[B]

See, I thought their rebrand.

[A]

Mark, are you ever gonna talk into that mic?

[B]

I'm sorry, man. It's a bad. I'm so used to, you know, what it is. All my years in, Brook has always had a lavalier mic, and so I'm not used to directional.

[A]

Got it?

[B]

Yeah. The. When MySpace kind of fell off the cliff and everybody went. Everyone else, they rebranded as a music platform and say, which was kind of our initial thing, let's be a music platform. I thought they should have leaned into that more because to your point, I feel like there's dating apps, there's better social media platforms. The best thing they could do right now is try to mimic the people who they were in front of 20 years ago. So I don't feel that's why I don't see a future in it. Unless they're gonna lean into something different.

[A]

Freeze.

[C]

Bring back the top eight, nigga.

[B]

That got me in so much trouble.

[A]

No, hell.

[D]

But then your top eight is shown to everybody. Can't. That's the point. Motherfuckers moving too covertly now anyway. Yeah, but no, I think when Twitter came in, it became instant. Like, Twitter started off as being text messages, basically, so now it's not. You send a post, bulletin board message, all that type of shit that. That immediate short form, strip down everything and just get instant with it, kind of changed the game. So in order for MySpace to be successful, like you said, they would have to kind of copy somebody who's already there. What's the point? Unless you find, like, a niche market somewhere, I. E. Like what only fans did, they found a market that they kind of cater to. Even though it started off as being something totally different. I don't see where MySpace, you have to change your name, actually. You'd have to come in the game as something different under a different name. Because MySpace is already tied to y' all on crack. You think they can still be successful?

[A]

Are you nuts? Are you? Absolutely.

[D]

No, tell me.

[A]

I was letting the no people go first.

[D]

MySpace as we knew it.

[C]

No, I think MySpace would make a return. About what?

[A]

That's why I was letting you kind of go last. Because they were on the no side. You and I were on the yes side. But in terms of changing the name, my opinion only, because I don't know shit. Would never change the name on Space. Ever, ever, ever. There's too much equity in it.

[C]

Too much.

[A]

Number one, there's too much to the people that to the world. The world is familiar with the name MySpace, right? And that's the name in business. Go find a fucking dime business. Go see if you could pump new life into it. So that's one. The name is the name. That's way too much work. I would take it a step further. I would cut Tom back in same. I feel like if you paid Tom and now he's back being the face. Everybody get that first Tom. It's a story. It's the same way it was before. I would do that also. Three, Everything community based is winning. Not to tie it back to a community. Everything community based is winning. Whether that's health and wellness, whether that's.

[D]

That's what I said, trading cards, you gotta find a market.

[A]

Whether that's comic books, whether that's the fanatics wrestling, whatever, anywhere where there's a community that can thrive. So, I mean, not only do I think MySpace can come back, I think they can come back and be extremely successful if done right and if the right partners are brought in. You got to remember, we calling these places, whatever we calling them, TikTok x meta, underneath it all is an algorithm. So the same way on the community we promote, hey, you don't have to. You can come here and build a community without being a slave to whatever that algorithm. Algorithm is telling or putting in your face or trying to make you do. MySpace is promoting. Hey, this is a free algorithm, so you can come here and do whatever it is you trying to do. I think in the coming years, that's going to come. Become even more attractive to the younger people out there.

[D]

All right, two things. One, you said MySpace. The name alone has equity. To who? Because again, MySpace has died, what, 0708, maybe you damn near 20 years later. So those who are super, super, super active on social media like that don't really have that equity with MySpace.

[A]

They don't even know you're not. You Looking at equity different than me.

[D]

I was asking you what's the equity?

[A]

The fact that I say my space

[D]

and people know and you know what it is.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

That's it.

[A]

I'm not talking about the functionality of it, how it works. What can you do on there? That's for them to figure out. But they've spent, spent billions in making people know the name. I was outside for them too.

[D]

The 20 year old knows MySpace today.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

But even if they don't heard, you might have heard the word yes. You've heard that then.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about.

[D]

You, you, you sometimes lean into the youth a lot, bro. The dominating. I don't know that I don't have the numbers in front of me. It's 40 year olds on Twitter every day. It's 50 year olds on Twitter every single day. It's 40 and 50 year olds on Instagram and Facebook and all these other platforms. So the fact that MySpace will come back around, it still carries a, a brand identifier and equity with all of the people that are 35 and up.

[A]

And let me. And let me add to Ish's point. Let me add to Ish's point. The thing that I put a lot more stock in than you freeze is history repeats. These 20 year olds, I don't think they knew shit about New Balances when it came. I don't think they knew about a six. I don't think they knew about Abercromb being Fitch. All this new. This. Listen, Mona was here the other day. She was in. She had what? Jeans she had on. Damn it. I don't remember, but I brought it up. I said diesel. Diesel. She had on some diesel. I was like, oh, look at you and diesel. She was like, are you trying to be funny? I was like, actually, I'm not.

[D]

You got some on right now.

[C]

Diesel.

[A]

Diesel is out of here. I got on what?

[D]

Them Bottegas right there. That's the diesel.

[B]

Those are the diesels from 20 years ago. Yeah, Literally.

[D]

See you. You thought I was trying to shoot at you ass. That said I got some diesel.

[B]

I got a what? What?

[A]

I wear diesel though. I have some diesel. Don't do that.

[D]

You wear them flat diesels.

[A]

I'm gonna kick you through the. I have diesel.

[B]

I do look exactly like the Diesel.

[D]

I'm not trying to be funny.

[C]

Yo.

[A]

There's a Gap renaissance happening right now. Like the. There's so many things that are coming back. So the fact that young people wasn't there for it. Young people have shown an affinity to resurrect.

[D]

They don't even know it's resurrection to them. They think they're discovering something new.

[A]

They think it's new.

[D]

They think they putting it on.

[A]

See, that's fine.

[D]

My mother used to tell us that when we was little. Like, yo, we did that. Everything that y' all doing right now, we did that. And it just basically comes back full circle, bell bottom.

[A]

When I look around, to be honest with you, I see app fatigue when I look out there. Yeah, I see people sick of X no matter what X is doing. I see people sick of Instagram and what that's doing. People are sick of only seeing 10 of their feed. I see people sick of threads. I see people sick of all of these places. The only place I don't really see people sick of is Reddit and that's really a news forum, so that don't count. True, but all of the places where people go and get the shucking and jiving and. And. And I don't really see it too much with TikTok either, but they on the list at some point.

[D]

So let me ask you a question then. If we're not feeding algorithm, where are we getting our money from? Cause again, data is the commodity. We get your data, we sell it over here. So especially today, to the people that

[A]

are running their business like that. Freeze. Everybody's not running their business like that. I've had offers to fucking sell people to sell data. Big check. Big check. I'm not gonna do that. I won't sleep at night, night knowing I'm taking the data. Big check.

[D]

But your cash out, your product is different.

[A]

It's cash out check. That's where the check is. He ain't lying. It's cash out check. I'm not. I. I can't. I would have to tell people that I can't. I wouldn't feel right about myself. But I see why companies are doing. But they got that off the rip. As soon as we sign up for clear A, they can sell it. But. But their business model is not in that.

[D]

That's just the added.

[A]

We. We got you over here. See, I see.

[D]

I think that's the business model. Let's get you over here so we can run this up because that's where we get hacked.

[A]

One of them, huh?

[D]

We got hat.

[A]

That's where.

[B]

That's what it is.

[D]

I'm playing.

[C]

I have to come.

[A]

Yo, we got.

[D]

Yo, yo, yo, we got. Oh, you telling.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't do That I can't do that. Every one of these hacks, they go around, listen, recently my. My vacation spot a moment big data breach. And you talking about the high class.

[D]

That's the number one wealthy, most private

[A]

protected data breach with y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

And guess what? I'm still going back data breach.

[D]

I'm still going back data breach. And we know what we got over here.

[C]

Yeah, I feel like. I feel like MySpace is going to become more app friendly for like MySpace is going to figure it out. I do feel like they're going to invest, invest in the people that are familiar.

[D]

Like some of the one thing they're

[C]

gonna do what they.

[D]

MySpace's arrogance made them fall off.

[B]

Is that what. Wait, yeah, I know there's like stories on MySpace.

[D]

MySpace was the shit, bro. It was like. It was like MySpace, MySpace and Fire and BlackBerry are. The arrogance made them fall off. BlackBerry's arrogance. When everybody went to the iPhone, BlackBerry was like, we don't need them. We got the business people, we don't need that. We got apps, we got Excel, we got this, we got that. And so we catering to a different demo BBM. And then iPhone went and got Excel and iPhone went and got all of the shit that BlackBerry was bragging about. And it was cool.

[B]

That makes sense to me. The MySpace thing I didn't get because I was on MySpace. I had all the stuff.

[D]

And MySpace never switched over to smartphones.

[B]

Is that okay?

[D]

So the smartphone came in. That was a revolutionary thing. MySpace was desktop only.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Remember we used to be home on MySpace, you know what I'm saying? So though with a neck not like this.

[C]

You can check how many miles.

[B]

That's a fact. You can check how far a person is from you.

[C]

How many miles. This is fire. She live down the block.

[D]

That little online now like Facebook.

[A]

That's when they caught at they horniest. When they told you Sarah was a

[D]

mile away and she was the height you wanted to wait.

[A]

You want search.

[C]

Oh my.

[A]

That advanced search boy had you fiend out, boy. Oh, she lived by me.

[D]

Oh, she right there.

[A]

Wait till she learned I live by her.

[D]

That was shooting him in a bucket.

[A]

But yo. So I'd have got the most pussy in my life during my space. If I have a girl, ditto. And I still came close.

[D]

Ditto.

[A]

Having a girl. I came close like a boss. I was putting up Kareem numbers on my. I'm bagging. I never thought I could bag. Oh boy. MySpace helped me learn that I was hell. Hey, let me just shoot at this oh, whoa, shit.

[B]

You flying out?

[A]

They were flying out before they knew how much money you had. Hey, I was broke as a joke, bitch. Getting on the plane, like for me. Oh, shit.

[B]

Pump, pump, pump.

[A]

Yeah, I got it done.

[D]

But then Facebook, Facebook transitioned to the smartphone. MySpace, dad. And it was around even before that. Facebook was college. You had to have a. A college email to even sign.

[A]

I just see mad different ways that MySpace could come back and get rocking. I do.

[C]

I don't see it.

[D]

I hope they got something.

[B]

I'm struggling just because I don't see it.

[D]

It's gonna be hard.

[A]

It's gonna be expensive. And they got it.

[C]

They got the money, though.

[D]

They got the money, they gonna have to spend it.

[C]

They were bought out, right?

[B]

Anything is possible. But like you said, people are tired of apps. I just, I just don't know who

[D]

and when you're saying the right people, and I mean anything done correctly, the

[A]

right people got all these apps.

[B]

Facts running.

[D]

True. I agree with that.

[A]

I just think it's possible, especially if you're looking at like a five to ten year plan, like you give yourself some Runway to actually give it a shot. Do I think it'll be immediate? No, I think it'll be tough. And I think that the other companies will try to make sure that that does not happen. But I can see it. I can see it. What if they go out and pay for the fucking certain music rights? What if they go out and incentivize all the independent artists in the world and say, you know what, you sell your music here, we're paying you more. That's enough to get you a start.

[D]

But that's what Mark said. Mark said that, that you gotta go find. We were talking about MySpace comeback as the MySpace. We know it. I don't see that. I just said they would have to lean into the music, rebranded into something else, a niche market one way or another, and then you could go ahead. That's. That's the only way I could see them being successful. But to be the MySpace we know. No, I think people like you said tired of apps.

[A]

Then y' all do agree with me

[D]

and Flip that it could happen. Oh, I think anything's possible.

[C]

Real quick. Real quick though. Like even you talk about Twitter, right? Twitter died before Elon did that.

[A]

It's dead now.

[D]

It's dead now.

[A]

It's dead, right?

[D]

This Twitter is dead.

[C]

It is now.

[D]

Twitter is dead. Yo, I don't know all the.

[C]

You said.

[D]

I sent that article in the group chat and I. It was new to me, maybe y' all have known it. It was an article I sent to the group chat about just like the online promotion and all of this type of shit. Like, all Twitter's dead. It's. It's all paid. It's all bots, all. None of it's authentic no more. It's not what it used to be.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

So when we say dead, I mean, it's a shell of its former self.

[B]

I get that.

[D]

It's just not real no more.

[B]

And then Threads, kind of. Threads was a nice space for like a week. And now I feel like Threads is quickly becoming Twitter again. Because the b. The same forces that overtake one, they got everything together.

[D]

They got everything, like real talk, these bots and. And comments, and they're everywhere. And now that's where the money is. Now they're paying companies. There are companies that have paid bots and humans on their side to put campaigns together to talk about this.

[A]

Whoa. Sorry about that.

[D]

It's that YG and Push.

[A]

Yeah, indeed. But I wanted to play y' all this Jonah Hill clip. Jonah. Jonah Hill is ready to beat everybody's ass.

[D]

He ready to.

[A]

And somehow the Internet is mad at him about it. But here's the clip. You know, I love Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I love. Except my body is begging me to not love it. 42 isn't. He's talking to Jason Bateman. You're not going to become, like, a professional fighter.

[C]

You know that, right?

[A]

Like, you're a comedian. Like. But let me ask you something. If we got into it, I would you up. I would all of you. But truly.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[A]

And that's the best part. My favorite thing is people are like, oh, Jonah Hill, fat guy from Super B.

[D]

And I'm like, I would annihilate.

[A]

I'm not kidding. Every fight. Try it. If you see me try it, every

[C]

fight ends up on the ground. Who's got it?

[A]

Unless you are way bigger than me. I have like, a fucking fuck around and find out.

[D]

I believe him.

[B]

I don't call him Cap.

[A]

Let me hear him all. Give it to me

[B]

first. That's a real weird thing I can use with his people. So I'm gonna give him a little bit of grace. Cause he's with his homies, you know, Jason Bateman and them, and they laughing. So it's a little bit of joking.

[D]

And he a comedian.

[B]

And he's a comedian, Right? But a lot of it feels like. Like you're just the fat guy from Superbad who's tired of being the fat guy from Superbad. And even though you lost all that weight, you're still the fat guy from Superbad. And so you can't let that shit go. Every time he talks, he sounds bitter and angry and frustrated at the world and.

[A]

Oh, really? Yeah, and look, I almost don't hear him talk that much.

[B]

Yeah, he's always whiny and annoying and all these things.

[D]

And that's the motivation. That's the motivation to be the good martial artist.

[B]

But a good.

[D]

That's the motivation. Like, I can't wait for one of you motherfuckers to try me.

[B]

So I fucking wish a nigga would. And you notice a good martial artist doesn't say that.

[D]

That's not.

[C]

Yeah, but how many good martial arts,

[B]

you walk around say, I'mma you up your discipline. They usually humble and quiet. J didn't say that.

[D]

J. 6, 4, 6, 5. Been raised by the Nation of Islam in a certain discipline. This is the fat.

[A]

I didn't have to say that. You can see that.

[D]

Also said if a try to punch me, I'm gonna.

[A]

And J got some say in his name.

[B]

No, just.

[D]

Yo, dog, John picked on his whole entire life.

[C]

Exactly. If you get picked on, you get

[D]

picked on your whole entire life. That be nigga's motivation to be.

[B]

I feel you. I, I.

[A]

That's how you got started.

[B]

I understand.

[A]

Oh, Mark, what happened?

[C]

I understand why that nigga come after you.

[B]

Mark, bro, I'd be.

[D]

They said he been training since 17, 18.

[B]

No, he been training. Oh, 2017. 2018. Yeah, yeah. All right. I know some old training. Well, him, he trained up at clockwork in New York. He only took private lessons.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

No, I don't mean.

[C]

Why not?

[B]

Because that's not how it works. You got to train with other people. You got to. You can't do jiu jitsu with one person.

[C]

Yeah, because I understand what you're saying.

[B]

It don't work.

[C]

Do you think the private lessons, you don't think that the whoever was training him got somebody else to.

[B]

I'm telling you, he wouldn't go into Gin pop.

[C]

Okay?

[B]

Like, people, he'd be like, yo, he had picks. And, and I get it, too, because you don't want to. You walk into a gym and I've had this happen where, like, you, you wrote, you go into a gym, and if they recognize you, they want to be able to say that they I fucked you up. That they you up. Right. So people don't want. I get it. But from what I heard, his skills weren't like that. Now, that was eight years ago. He could have been training for the last eight years. He could be a monster. But. And the experience of people I know, because I'm not the expert here, but the people I know who are experts, they say a nigga after. I mean, people don't talk like that. He sounds like a white belt who just. Who learned a couple moves and now thinks he can kick everybody's ass. And that's the last piece of this. He had a lot of caveats. Unless you're way bigger than me. Jonah Hill's five foot seven and he's Olympic skinny. Everybody's bigger than him and stronger than him. So that's a hell of a caveat. Yeah, if you're 5 foot 7, 140 pounds, he might have that work for you.

[D]

He said way.

[A]

He said way bigger.

[D]

He said way is different.

[B]

Fair enough. Fair enough.

[D]

I just think that even he got enough money like it ain't private lessons.

[B]

No, listen.

[D]

No, I'm saying his private lessons ain't the normal person's private lessons.

[B]

What do you think happens?

[D]

He got enough money where he can bring in various teachers that got various shit to invest in himself? I'm not saying he is or. Yeah, I don't know if he's nice. I'm just saying if he got eight years consistency under his belt in a martial art, he would be able to beat the average person.

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm.

[A]

If you're talking about the average man in the street just. That's calling him the fat dude from Superbad.

[B]

I disagree with. I disagree with that, too, and I'll tell you why.

[D]

But look, why can't he, like, have really been honing his skills for the last certain amount of years, but still got that chip? And it's just. I want just. Just whoever tried me, I'm still the show I want to show. Cause sometimes you just gotta show a nigga one time.

[B]

Is that possible? Yes. But in my experience, people who have that developed training don't talk like that

[D]

and don't talk developed training with the chip.

[B]

Cause let me tell you something about martial arts gyms. And all y' all out there who are more. Everybody in there is using martial arts therapy. Everybody in there got picked on. Everybody in there got a chip on their shoulder. You know what I mean? It's like walking to church and say, I'm looking for a recovering addict. You know what I mean? Or a mock, right? It's like everybody has the same shit and they all have these same Attitudes. And what happens is, as you grow and develop, once you realize you can fuck somebody, because there's a confidence in knowing you can fuck people up that has you not needing to always say, I'm gonna fuck people up. And to me, if somebody said. If you said to him, yo, what do you do if somebody tries you? That's different than him saying, saying, come try me. Come try me.

[D]

No one says that because he said, if we got into. We got into a squabble, what would happen?

[B]

Yeah. But then he keep going. And all you out there that think and that comes.

[D]

Because y' all keep talking to me like I'm this thinking, I'm chump. I want to let y' all know.

[B]

And I'm saying, I don't know anybody who is that, who is good, who walks around saying to people, you want some smoke? Come try me.

[D]

It's a lot of that can.

[A]

And there's some hoods you could go to where you don't have to say it.

[D]

No, it's a lot of things that can really fight. That talk about how well they could fight. When we was little and me and Corey neighborhood, it was that knew karate real good. Them would be walking around, kicking the stop signs, doing all that type, wishing a would and was bullied. These was grown.

[A]

I wish somebody in your little clique, you and Corey had like, a car. Well, they was always double. Whatever Little Prince street they was on. Wherever y' all was at, they was always just there.

[C]

He said car saying to drive around, get out of nowhere.

[A]

Yeah, wasn't going far.

[D]

It's that, you know that could fight from your hood that everybody knew they could fight. And they'll tell you I could fight. They showed them. That was fair enough. That was they. That was.

[A]

But I don't know that guy.

[D]

That was they braggy thing like that was they.

[A]

I don't know that guy personal, personally. All the men I knew like that from the hood, the rest of the hood told me, no.

[D]

It's like niggas saying, yo, I got money. Some niggas that really got money won't talk about it. But there are other niggas that got money that will let the world know.

[B]

I got.

[D]

That's they thing, they security thing.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

There's nothing about Jonah Hill. That's the other thing. He's not training mma. He's training Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. So I'm just saying he's probably never been punched in the face, maybe. You know what I mean? He trains sport jujitsu. Yes. If he gets on his. If he can get on the ground and scoot back and all that shit.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

If you jump into his guard, yeah. He probably you up.

[A]

See, I'm stupid, man, so I'll just expose myself again. When people say Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, I say, you got it. But what is that?

[B]

You probably.

[D]

It's locks, grappling, throws.

[B]

It's a lot of hitting.

[D]

It's not a lot of striking. Strikey.

[B]

There's no strikes in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. There's no striking.

[D]

But if we get. But don't do it, Joe, because if they get close enough to you, they'll break some shit.

[B]

Joe, if somebody put you in the right grip. If somebody put you in the right grip, you will be fucked up.

[D]

Yeah, like, don't we gotta put you in the grip? Yo, y' all laughing.

[A]

Y' all laughing. Y' all laughing.

[D]

Yo, come here.

[A]

Let's grab, let's grapple. Yo, let's grind. Now see, now y' all gonna make

[B]

me take Johnny Gold side. No, you don't, nigga.

[D]

Once we square up and I shoot, what you gonna do? No, you don't. Cory, you are wrong. The average person walking around the street streets, when a square up with you and the shoot you to your legs, what they gonna do?

[A]

Hey, yo, you mean to tell me you're wrong? The that be talking tough with this Brazilian Jiu Jitsu just kind of want to get on the floor. They want to roll around.

[C]

That's on you.

[A]

I beat the out of.

[B]

Yes, you beat the out of Jonah Hill. Because I don't think Jonah Hill is. Is. Is. Is that. But anybody who the average blue belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu above can. Can control an untrained or bigger opponent.

[D]

How high is.

[B]

If we on the floor, it's just right. It's the belt after white.

[A]

If we on the fly, it's the second belt.

[B]

Yeah, but you have to get. But you have to get it. But.

[A]

Oh, you have to be trained in getting that person to the floor.

[B]

Duh. Yeah, just Jiu Jitsu also has takedowns,

[D]

so, like, it's not that simple to

[B]

say it comes out of judo.

[D]

Lock in.

[B]

It comes out of judo, right? Brazilian Jiu Jiu Jitsu comes at a judo, which is, you know, so basically. So, yeah, there's wrestling takedowns, and single legs, double legs, shit like that. And then there's. There's judo. Take that.

[A]

Show me something. Show me a little bit.

[B]

I don't. I don't want to hurt you. All Right.

[C]

Let's assume.

[B]

Let's. Let's. Cuz fights end up on the ground, right?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Do whatever you would do if.

[B]

If a. I don't take you down because of the table here.

[D]

Well, just show how you would take them down.

[B]

Look, y. Y' all did wrestling before, right? But most do.

[D]

No. All fight unless the two people want to stand up.

[C]

You not see online when somebody gets slammed, what happens to them.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Let's assume you slam me on the ground. Either one of you. Okay. You slam me on the ground.

[A]

Well, if we do that, then I understand.

[B]

Yeah, but that's how, Joe, without even

[D]

getting on the ground. Without getting on the ground. Once we in outside of arm's length and I'm close to you, the person that's really, really skilled in getting somebody on the ground, it's gonna get you on the ground.

[B]

Yeah, you're too. I'm just trying to say I'm fired.

[C]

So if.

[B]

If my distance is here, you can me up.

[D]

Maybe, maybe not.

[C]

Because now.

[B]

But if I get to this side.

[D]

So now I own you.

[A]

At that point, you guys are trained in being able to go down here.

[D]

No, no, seriously, not me, stupid.

[A]

I'm not me.

[D]

I'm saying yes, Joe. Yes. Bro, that is. Yeah, that is rough. He slipped that kind of quick.

[B]

If I'm on the ground first, I'm taking you down. Okay.

[A]

I take it back.

[B]

Yeah, I take it back. Yeah. That ain't no job. But what's. But what's. Once you're on the ground, you're pretty much helpless in the hands of somebody who knows what they're doing on the

[D]

ground, they own you.

[B]

But my point with Jonah Hill is

[D]

you gotta get a nigga to the ground.

[B]

You gotta get somebody to the ground.

[D]

Do you think Jonah Hill can get a nigga to the ground?

[B]

I don't gotta. I don't. So, like, for me, I do Muay Thai for that reason. Cause I don't wanna be on the ground.

[D]

Muay Thai is striking.

[A]

Now. What's Muay Thai?

[B]

It's Thai boxing. It's kind of boxing.

[D]

You seen it?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You've seen it a lot?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so.

[B]

And kicks. It strikes through legs. So my point is, I don't want to be on the ground. Crap.

[A]

You want to fight?

[B]

Yeah, I want to go home.

[A]

True. Yeah.

[B]

So my best way of going home

[D]

is a pistol to put you to sleep.

[B]

Little gun poop to put you to sleep. Yeah. If I'm throwing the right.

[D]

If someone throws the right kick, you

[B]

can go down the wind.

[A]

That's all I hear while you talking. Oh, yeah, he breaking it down. Your Muay Thai is winning in the Jiu Jitsu. Bang, bang, bang. None of that is English. Shot you down.

[B]

That's a fact.

[A]

Here's a Moe English for you.

[C]

40, I think. All 40.

[A]

A real one?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, that.

[D]

I mean, hopefully, I. If I had to bet my money on it, I think. I think he could defend.

[B]

But he sounds like the guy that took like five classes and it's going crazy. That's all I'm saying. Got it?

[C]

Got it. You still a white belt or. Yes.

[D]

You?

[C]

I'm just asking.

[B]

He does karate. How does. How does.

[D]

Come to me, bro.

[C]

Are you still a white. Just thinking about it.

[A]

The only people.

[C]

Are you still a white belt?

[A]

Whatever the y' all got.

[C]

Did you graduate from being a white belt?

[D]

Yeah. Leave me alone, bro.

[A]

No, that's the problem. He be saying his lies, and then we can't never bring him up.

[D]

Why?

[B]

Why?

[C]

I got.

[D]

And you got the world thinking I'm a liar, Joe. I'm not a liar. One minute you say, yo, dog, you tell the most truth up here, then the next minute you say you lying.

[C]

Are you a black belt?

[B]

No.

[D]

No.

[B]

You know what it is? It's that you reveal part of it and then say the rest. So then you leave it mysterious.

[D]

Yeah, like, yo, what that is?

[A]

Who string that. You haven't made a belt. You have. All right, go ahead.

[C]

What belt are you? What belt are you?

[A]

Yeah, boy, I know.

[D]

Moist type. Whatever.

[A]

Moist and moist.

[D]

That's right up your alley.

[C]

Why you can't tell me that on the show? Yo, why is it private?

[B]

It's not private. I'm. I'm a blue button.

[A]

It's a shame I got to pay somebody to hit ish when he out at lookers to really test the karate. Karate skills. He won't tell. Now I gotta catch him when he by himself coming straight from work. Dirty construction boost oil. He think he there seeing something nice bow we gotta see now. And they got the phone out and they tape it. It's the new age. Ain't the seventies when you went to school? They taping now. It's.

[C]

It ain't. Professor Clark. Hey, what's going on? N. It's just cameras, but I'm with you. Hit you. He gonna die a hit. Issue the street.

[B]

It should somebody up.

[C]

But not only that.

[D]

I don't want to do none of that.

[C]

Don't even do that, cuz you giving it. Should somebody referee Ishlay gonna form. Asslay gonna stumble all over the place. Niggas gonna kill for ish.

[A]

He gonna be. He gonna be fighting. Yo, I know you from somewhere, yo,

[C]

yo, yo, you my man, yo, you know call Cory.

[A]

Do you know Corey? Yo, who you know?

[B]

Yo, I'm from new one.

[A]

Do you know Cory? Yo, I know you know.

[B]

I know you know somebody.

[D]

That's what he do all the time.

[B]

He always got you funny like this.

[A]

Put him on, put him on, put him on.

[C]

I don't think you let it get that far. Like you mature. It's don't.

[A]

He would apologize first.

[C]

No, I don't think he apologize. I think it's your bag. I think it's.

[B]

We all own up to. I think it's.

[A]

Well, n. I mean, you seen my bad to die.

[D]

I haven't seen.

[A]

You know, I'm ready for us to die. You saved our life. You apologize, you saved our life. What good it do at that point?

[C]

But you know what, though?

[A]

I saved our life that day. I'm ready to die when it go down.

[C]

I don't know why I think I

[A]

wanted to see loss of life. Let's go. What's happening?

[C]

You talk about it's not good that stick like that.

[B]

Yeah. Yo, if I was.

[C]

I know I be on that. That kill me in here. That's my mind. What is wrong?

[D]

We seen you, though.

[C]

Oh, what you seen?

[D]

I could go, officer.

[C]

Hey, m turn green.

[B]

I know I just right.

[C]

Listen, a nigga always get pushed. Listen, the difference between you and I,

[A]

a get put on, can't fight. He just strong.

[C]

A get put on his pampa too many times.

[A]

You just got strength.

[D]

I said, you hit that with all you had.

[A]

And he stood there.

[D]

I did.

[C]

You put your legs in that punch.

[A]

You went to Kennedy Friday after that,

[D]

when y' all was jumping that boy. You ain't put your legs in that punch.

[C]

What are you talking about?

[A]

When you jump, boy?

[B]

Yeah, which one?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, what about it? You put your.

[B]

I seen it.

[C]

Yeah. Cause what?

[D]

Yeah, that ate that and said, yo, they jumping me.

[A]

His nose is broken.

[C]

He said, you ass.

[A]

You said, my nose is broken.

[C]

Trying to press charges. Watch your mouth when you talk. He was trying to sue just the other day.

[B]

Yeah, that's what everybody said when they get a case.

[C]

Just obviously the difference between me and y'. All, see, I respect y', all, but y' all make the ignorance come out. The other day when I went to my man, Imani can vouch for. Well, he wasn't there, but he can Vouch he still got put on his pamper.

[A]

Somebody gotta vouch for what y' all say.

[C]

Got put on his pamper.

[B]

Said, flip.

[C]

Chuck my dick on his pamper. Fail. All that. Pull. Pull the pass with my neck. All that. That's what type of time I want.

[A]

You ain't doing it.

[B]

Who.

[C]

Who you think? Who you think did it? Pamper diaper. Now do I feel good about it? No. Because you can learn a lot of things. You get bitten.

[B]

I don't feel good about.

[A]

I'm playing on your name. I'm joking. I'm joking for podcast.

[D]

That might have happened.

[A]

You tough after your friends get tough.

[D]

When you and your man was jumping, homeboy.

[A]

You.

[C]

You get.

[A]

You get active with your friends. What?

[B]

Your friends. No, you talking about the studio.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[D]

I seen you put you that when I.

[B]

You and everything.

[C]

No, no, no. Listen, listen, listen. I don't want to talk about that

[A]

because I don't want to make fun of Ebro. Had to put him on the soundboard when he came up to change your collar touch. Don't worry about it.

[C]

Hold on, hold on.

[A]

The.

[C]

With Ebro started as a joke until Ebro was kicking me, like, playing with his foot.

[A]

Then when I got double breasted, T shirt.

[C]

When I attempted to put Ebro in the headlock, you can see Bino grabbing my hand.

[A]

We got it some years ago.

[B]

Stop.

[C]

Shut up. Then I put my hands up like this and grabbed me. Watch your mouth.

[A]

We already love you.

[C]

Just laid you out the last time, too. Laid you out.

[A]

Where the footage?

[C]

I don't know where the footage, but I got your back.

[A]

It never dropped.

[D]

I ain't laugh at you on the Slippery Uggs.

[A]

That footage ain't dropped.

[C]

I know you ain't no clown, but still.

[A]

Hey, one thing for certain. It never dropped. I was waiting for. I was on World Star Car. It never came. It's probably fuzzy. Why could you pay for. It's probably. Oh, it's probably distorted.

[D]

It was distorted.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Said you paid for the footage.

[C]

Hold on.

[A]

And I'm such a real cause I want homies on parole. They lucky that I ain't a street, but some of that street I still respect.

[C]

Me, too.

[A]

Y' all is lucky. Cause, yeah, even that one.

[C]

I don't feel good about that, though, because I felt bad being around good, mature niggas like y' all niggas. N. I was home, sad nigga. Ask my wife, my friend. Ask Imani. I'm like, damn that shit. Nigga. I gotta control myself.

[D]

You needed Your left that day.

[C]

No, damn. No, for real. That shit is sad. To be at this age and still, like, I hear Joe say, yo, you can say whatever you want unless you. As long as you don't touch me. Why is suck my dick still getting me that mad in real time that I'm willing to.

[D]

Yes or no. It's something that we gotta overcome as men. Like, I don't know if it would make me do it at 50, but

[B]

that don't set me off.

[A]

Shouldn't.

[D]

It shouldn't. Because it's a level of disrespect. Calling you a sucker set you off, though.

[C]

But it's shitting, though. These things shouldn't. That's different. It shouldn't.

[B]

I heard Joe say I got triggers that just happened not to be mine.

[C]

I. I heard Joe say, talk about whatever you. He handled it different. I watch him and Joe be down to fight. Joe said, all right, meet me around the corner. However he said, those words don't bother him. So when say suck my dick, flip my heart drop. It's like, ah. I start to fucking see.

[A]

The thing that confused me about that is, is you're not sucking a dick. Once that happens, they. They. They. They just suck my dick.

[C]

It's disrespectful, though, Joe. I think it's just the. The words that came with it.

[B]

The.

[C]

The beatings that came with telling.

[A]

Just the fact that it ain't disrespect if you ain't touch me.

[D]

No, true.

[A]

You can say what you want. I'm agreeing with you. Your mother, your dad.

[C]

Yo, what happened to hood when we was younger?

[B]

Did that.

[C]

What happened when you told real that it was ass whooping, get shot. That's what I grew up seeing. So that all okay? Those words. Words are words that you're trying to hurt me. That's what the hood did.

[D]

It's still poisonous programming that we gotta.

[B]

Yeah, but the first.

[C]

I don't care about that.

[D]

I'm not dis. No, I wasn't saying that.

[C]

Yeah, he was.

[A]

Let me ask you something. You got the same ideology. If you happen to bump in the homeboy. What's. What's that weird name? Chad the Builder?

[C]

That's a good question.

[D]

Yo, in our neighborhoods, he would have got shot already.

[C]

Yeah, that's a good question.

[D]

He know where to go to do that? No, I don't.

[A]

This ain't about him. I don't care. No, I care about y'.

[B]

All.

[D]

No, I agree with you. I'm saying that what you're saying Is. I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong. If somebody tell you suck they dick, you supposed to be like, yo, get the. They didn't put their hands on you. In theory, you are a thousand percent correct. I think where it comes is, yo, us as men, we know that this person is intentionally trying to be disrespectful for content.

[A]

That don't.

[B]

No, the content.

[A]

Y' all listen to me. Let me. Let me talk this out. What I'm asking y' all is when you make that assessment, hey, this person is being extremely disrespectful to the point they trying to get me to do something that don't never strike y' all as odd. Yeah, before you get violent.

[C]

It does.

[D]

No, it does.

[A]

Like, they make you pause and see.

[D]

I process it even further. Oh, it's like, oh, you just want a reaction.

[A]

You might be the plan. Yeah, exactly. You want me to do it so you could shoot.

[D]

So you could shoot me or sue me or whatever.

[A]

That's what Chuck. My thing is. In. In. In. In.

[D]

No. Right.

[A]

In. In any state of, like, extreme emotion, especially anger and hurt and, like, the ability to think.

[D]

Absolutely. For me, Trump's most.

[A]

I'm a Virgo Earth sign weirdo is always the most important thing. I don't even like when. I don't like when. And Keeb and Ian, them niggas call me sometimes. Their anxiety is at a level that I'm not even listening to you, dog. Like, you gotta pace yourself. Or the more the anxiety go up, the more calming I have to be because I gotta be able to think.

[D]

I don't know. No, no, I agree with that a thousand percent.

[C]

I think Chuck the business.

[A]

And I'm asking y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Cause y' all just. All y' all smart brothers sometimes.

[B]

For me, what people say is not about the words. And that's what people sometimes get. It's not necessarily the worst trick. Even when me you argue, it wasn't. Y' all call me worst things to suck every day. Sometimes it's like, what energy is behind that and what is your intention by saying it. So if, like, in Philly, we play basketball, we talk shit, nigga, I ain't foul. You suck my dick. Like, we actually. It really wasn't that big a deal. But when I got to New York and New Jersey, I realized y' all take that shit like.

[D]

But niggas in Philly call you a nut.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[D]

Something in Philly and Weirdo in la.

[B]

So at the point where you say that to me, suck my dick, and I'm on a court in New York, it don't. Doesn't. It don't trigger me for no reason other than I know what you're trying to do. And so if you're willing to say that to me, knowing that it's that high stakes where you from, then that makes me feel like you on something else. So now I'm already thinking it's about to go somewhere crazy because you're willing to say that to me. So that's to me what it's about.

[D]

More than just about learning that we

[A]

have very bad learning.

[C]

You got to grow up, man.

[B]

But some of it is street smarts is what I'm saying. If a walk through and say, suck my dick at a club, could you bump in into him?

[D]

Like, I agree with you.

[B]

Might not be triggered, but he might

[D]

be about to swing anyway at us at this age.

[A]

Well, I try not to bump into people too.

[D]

I had a good one, boy.

[C]

That's me too.

[D]

You my man.

[C]

You my man.

[D]

Y. It's cool.

[C]

Oh, man.

[D]

No, I just think it's.

[A]

But for the record, this whole room thinks that we could up Seth Rogen.

[B]

He would be so bad.

[A]

Jonah Hill, I mean, I'm sorry. And Seth Rogen.

[B]

I would love to see a little celebrity match with Jonah Hill and somebody, anybody.

[A]

You.

[B]

Nah, man, I'm talking about like a real celebrity.

[D]

Like, who would you put about gift that you would want to watch?

[B]

Actually, Seth Rogen wouldn't be the worst one.

[A]

Ray J. Oh, Jonah Hill versus Ray

[B]

J would be amazing.

[D]

Ray J.

[B]

But my money would be on Ray J. I swear to God, my money would be on Ray J. Ray J

[D]

was letting me in an MMA match.

[B]

I'd give Ray J for me. What'd you say?

[A]

But I mean, I think it was part of the shtick. Ray J has made it to where anything he does, I feel like is part of his shtick. But on one of them streams, one of them niggas was talking to Ray J kind of spicy. I was like, all right, okay, I'm gonna remove myself now. I'm getting out of here. Cause I ain't gonna keep listening to you talked like this. Why though?

[D]

See, that's the point.

[A]

Why? Cause everybody has a boiling point. So I would try to remove myself. I'm getting out of this here. I'm moving. You ain't going to trick. Trick me. You got to hit me, dog, for this to happen, or we got to

[D]

have scheduled the fight.

[A]

Come on, let's go around the corner. That's old school though.

[D]

I seen you. I seen you. I was with you and you invited a around the corner a couple times.

[A]

Really? Yeah, me and you hung out a lot.

[D]

I did anyway, so I know you ain't lying.

[A]

Yeah, no, yeah. There's a respect to fighting.

[D]

I feel like no it depends on your age group and who raised you.

[B]

Should be. Yeah.

[D]

Back in the like now. Now a nigga's stealing you, bro.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

A not giving you a chance to

[B]

is going not going around the corner.

[D]

Ain't no yo walk around the corner. We gonna really be men and put our up. Oh no. Now is going up top early. And you can't beat the today. Cause now no some will fight you. I'm talking but now take a l today. I got, I got. I gotta get my.

[C]

Hey, young take it just depends where you come from.

[D]

It depends.

[B]

I just seen that. Y' all ain't seen the good, good fight, right?

[A]

Who?

[D]

It's viral. It's this big ass dark skinned dude, big as shit. It's some little short Spanish nigga. They a real good old school fair one. The big dude was rocking him in the beginning. Little nigga, he like, yeah, that's what I like. And the little nigga just start whipping his ass.

[C]

Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.

[D]

Dropped him like three or four times. Great fair one. Like a good one. Make you proud.

[C]

Like no bullshit.

[B]

Y' all actually watch fight videos on the Internet?

[D]

That one I did. That one I did. It was a good one.

[C]

It's viral.

[D]

It's everywhere.

[B]

I watch him every time.

[D]

I don't watch that.

[A]

I'll watch it if it come with a plot.

[D]

It was a good one.

[B]

I only like to watch bullies.

[A]

I like to know why you're fighting.

[B]

I only watch the bully. I like to watch when people get or bullying somebody and the other person wins.

[D]

That's all I look for.

[B]

I don't like watching.

[A]

I don't watch shit where the person I like in the video lose.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah, same.

[B]

And I never liked the bully, so I'm good with it. I don't want to watch like real people fight who I know. I'm not into that. That's not interesting to me. And just to tie this up, like if somebody asked me to go around the corner to fight, I wouldn't go. We too old to be following somebody around the corner to fight because it's not a life death situation. If we could walk around, if we organize in the fight,

[D]

walking around the corner can lead to a life of death situation.

[B]

Well, that's the other thing.

[D]

That's what I'm talking about.

[B]

There's that too.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

No, but that's what happened to me.

[D]

If this.

[C]

Go around the corner.

[D]

Can't walk. You're not walking around the corner right now.

[A]

You high as hell. No, you coolest. Bugging the fuck out.

[D]

No, you're not.

[A]

It will never, never be a time in life where I'm not down to walk around the corner. That's never happening today. Yes. I don't get you mad at a person 100%.

[D]

Does it matter the person?

[A]

No.

[B]

This is why you such an enigma to me, Joe. Because on the one hand, words don't bother you. What is it that somebody can do?

[A]

This is not words. This is not word. This is an agreement.

[D]

The words. The words is what got you to that point.

[B]

What kind of situation would you have to be in for you to make the agreement to go around the corner? Because I'm surprised at that, that's all.

[A]

I don't know. It would just have to have. Have gone too far. Like it would just have to have gone too far.

[D]

Yeah, not at this stage.

[A]

Come on, let's take, let's take the walk. And if somebody is saying they want to fight, that's the, that's the old school version of what they do, that drop the low. Drop the low. Drop the low. Before, it wasn't no local, we was all in the same place. So let's walk around the corner. Let's keep this away from the main avenue.

[D]

We ain't got the police street light.

[A]

Yeah, let's get it over with. And win, lose or draw, everybody go back to the business. No matter what happened, there's a respect in that. And where I'm from, that's just always going to be there.

[D]

Now, you think a lot of people sign. Sign up for what you sign up

[A]

for at our age here, Sign up for.

[D]

I'm not signing up.

[B]

Wrong word.

[D]

What you think? Subscribe to that. Like you said, yo, let's take a walk around the corner. All right, bet. Come on.

[A]

I think that amongst the. That have no problem getting it on. If it ever got to that, they have no problem. I'm walking around the corner, no guns, no weapons, and getting on. I, I agree.

[B]

I respect dwindling.

[A]

If somebody called the game right now and tried to say, let's walk around the corner, he would walk around the corner with you. I think there's People.

[C]

No, no, no.

[D]

I'm not saying nobody. I just think that numbers dwindling.

[B]

A lot of people.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Of course.

[D]

A lot of people are saying I got too much to lose to do it. There's that and then there's other motherfuckers. That's how I see in my brain.

[A]

You don't lose nothing when you do that.

[D]

Because in our brain, look, in our brain, we was around when a fair one was a fair one with no cell phones, right? Nowadays you could take a loss as a man, you could take a loss like, yo, he got a loss of

[A]

me and you around the corner. Ain't nobod.

[C]

I know.

[D]

So. But now what happens after the fight? Be like this. What happens after the fight?

[B]

Or they go on Instagram after that. I just. Joe, button up, yo, tell him to

[D]

cam up and show his face.

[A]

That's some new age.

[D]

I'm speaking to new age.

[B]

He's saying. That's right.

[C]

I think when you want to go around the corner, you're fine. Wind, lose or draw.

[D]

That's what I was just saying.

[B]

Yeah, but it used to be a private affair. I think Isis point is it's no longer. No longer between me and the new generation. But if somebody and don't get it up.

[A]

You talking about the winner of the fight. Get on it. Yo, dog, many a times the winner of the fight just didn't want to have that fight again.

[D]

Yeah, that's true too. Like the winner.

[A]

The winner of the fight don't mean that. Every time you see this that you

[B]

just beat up, it's a fight.

[A]

Hey, the you beat up got all

[B]

the heart in the world.

[A]

He with it. He on go and he shop at fine fair like you.

[C]

No, no. And.

[D]

And that was no tough. That was a tough fight. My. I'm limping. I might have won, but my leg hurt, my ribs hurt.

[B]

I want my decisions.

[A]

A modest win. Hey, glad we squared that one. Oh, God, no.

[D]

That's hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, you got a In my hood back in the day. And this is old school Jersey City. Clinton Av but all the main players in Jersey City, like we all knew. Like it was all us. Everybody knew everybody, whether you from forest, whether it was me. Everybody knew everybody. And this moved. This moved new kid in town. This moved in from like some Oklahoma or some had to be about. And remember we 15, 16 and 17. This had to be 6, 4. He moved new in town. His name was Box. So naturally, hey, you took a life. Why they call you Box? Box.

[B]

Oh, I see what you did give you two reasons.

[A]

You ain't got to touch on the laugh. You can laugh. You ain't got to reach out and extend every time. Yeah. Get the out of here. Anyway, so the name was Box. So naturally you asked him, hey, how'd you get that name? Turns out he boxed. Really?

[B]

It's like.

[D]

That's like, Mark, man, one punch, right?

[A]

This did all the work, working out. So at 16, 17, he was shaped like Tyson Beckford or some. And his favorite line with was, let's walk around the corner. Nobody walk around.

[B]

No.

[A]

Like, no, you're going to die. And sure enough, rest in peace, the box. But, yeah, ain't doing that. Ain't playing that.

[B]

Got to snub those for that. Love the box.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Exactly. Anywho, man. Oh, and. And speaking of people that you would like to see fight. Jonah Hill. And listen, slow news week, but I wrote it all down. Mario Lopez.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh.

[A]

Mario Lopez versus Jonah Hill.

[B]

He's no joke.

[D]

I think he.

[A]

I think that Mario Lopez will fuck three Jonah Hills up.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And Seth Rogen. Yo, Mark.

[D]

Yo, dog. Jonah Hill told him, I fucked all three of y' all up.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But he was talking to Jason Bateman. Three grown men, you know?

[C]

But no, I get it.

[B]

I think.

[A]

I think even now, Jason asked him, hey, if me and you had at it. Hey, I win. He said, if you're saying, if we had at it, I'm gonna win. But anyway, Mario Lopez is on the Internet doing some weirdo, and he's posting AI AI videos of his niece gargling down hot dogs at a baseball game while he's next to her and, like,

[B]

throwing him up or some weird.

[A]

Yeah, really, really weird. Really awkward. Really, like, what the fuck is up with him? And a lot of us just know Mario Lopez for being the clean cut. Yeah. Not even saved by the bell. But what's the extra like, he's the host.

[D]

That kind of.

[A]

What is he on now that just

[D]

has him blung in his mouth.

[B]

Hollywood unlocked. Access Hollywood.

[D]

Access Hollywood.

[B]

Access Hollywood. Every time you're in a hotel, he pops up. Access Hollywood.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Some people's definition of amusement and comedy is different. So he might have posted that shit thinking it was gonna be funny. And we might be looking at that shit like, yo, that's weird.

[B]

He does. Every day, I follow him pretty closely. Cause he does the martial arts stuff, and every day, he posts wholesome family stuff. So, like, it'll be him in a boxing ring and him saying, I'm not training for fitness. I'M training to protect my daughter. You know, people say, have you seen her. Seen her dad? You know, so everything is like, something funny or cliquey with his family. And I think he just was, you know, the old guy that doesn't quite understand AI Technology. I think he was doing a little bit too much. He thought it was a funny video of her of his niece throwing up hot dogs.

[C]

And she looks. And she's of age, though. She doesn't look younger than me in this picture.

[B]

I think so. Yeah. And I didn't.

[A]

You back on that cousin soup?

[C]

No.

[B]

And the way he did it.

[A]

Wait, hold up. Come on, guys. Let's not brush right over this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, why is the age.

[B]

He's like. And she's of age.

[C]

No, what I'm saying is that when you.

[A]

Is it my older niece?

[B]

No, no.

[C]

When you say niece, I'm thinking I. I just thought something. Something else.

[B]

Yeah, but he wasn't. It wasn't nothing inappropriate underneath it. It was just. It's the Internet.

[A]

Throwing up hot dogs.

[D]

Right.

[B]

But, you know, people take all kinds of ways. Like,

[A]

that was weird.

[B]

It was weird.

[D]

It was weird because it was an AI Video, first off.

[B]

That's what like.

[D]

And then he posted a real video of them at the. I don't understand what you were doing.

[B]

That was just young. Too much sauce. Old guy trying to use technique.

[D]

Technology

[C]

is okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like what you type in to even make that video. Big dog. What you was really on.

[B]

Crazy. Yeah, that's what they killing him online? Yes. Yes.

[A]

Yeah, they did.

[D]

And rightfully so.

[A]

They absolutely killed him online.

[C]

I was teenager.

[A]

Okay, Mario Lo. I'm shutting up before you try to see me. Try to walk around the corner with me. I'm cool.

[B]

Yeah, there's another.

[D]

I said, you down with anybody to walk around the corner, though.

[A]

I will walk around the corner.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

Hopefully nobody's back around. Hopefully the liquor store cleared out by the time we get back. Why was it always a liquor store, too?

[C]

Right?

[D]

It's one in every hood

[A]

I hate.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You're spraying cologne in the middle of a broadcast.

[A]

No, it ain't.

[D]

That's what you can't just.

[A]

Oh, nope, Let me find out. They give me broken samples when I go to trying to show love. Anyway, what else is important? I don't want to make it morbid and get to the in n Out shooting, but that's one of my worst nightmares is to be in a restaurant, be it fast food or anywhere else, and somebody just come in there and Start shooting.

[D]

Yeah, I look at the exit signs, the exit doors, all that shit. I get familiar with a bunch of that shit. That's why I don't really like certain spots where they not patting you down or the exits is hard to find. I don't be with that shit.

[A]

No, that was the politically correct way of saying what I want to say. That's when I get to profiling motherfuckers that come in this motherfucking Arby's. Let's see what the hell's going on.

[D]

Yo, ain't taking about. Ain't take his hand out his hoodie the whole time.

[A]

Yeah, he on the phone.

[D]

I'm good.

[A]

Like.

[D]

Like something like that just happened recently at the chick fil A on 22. And it's just like, bro, Profiling. Even the area. Some of this shit, you can't. You can't. I won't say predict, but you just. Yeah, you can't.

[A]

You can't, bro.

[D]

You can't. A just. People up today just walk in and just start shooting anywhere in Beverly Hills and a could pull out a gun and start going crazy, but the probability is different.

[A]

My aunt staying out of certain spots, buddy. My last topic of the day for you gentlemen to stay in this area is the father of the kid responsible for the Appalachian High shooting where two kids ended up murdered. The kid that did it ended up getting life, but the dad has now been sentenced to 15 years for gifting his kid the gun on Christmas. Where do y' all stand on that?

[D]

I think that's horrible.

[A]

Tell me what.

[D]

When you start going to the Midwest, when you start going down south, hunting, all of that shit is a part of their culture from young, from when they. Kids like my cousin's in Virginia. I came in and told the story. My girl cousin, they be hunting squirrels with.22 rifles. A girl. So I just think that their culture is different than ours. We view guns differently than people in the south and in the Midwest do. That's a fact. So you talking about the Appalachian country. That's what they do. So if he gave them a gun for Christmas, he not giving them a gun to go get into mischief or to do something crazy with the gun.

[A]

Colin Gray said sentencing comes days after his son Colt Gray was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in September 4, 2024, shooting at the school 45 miles northeast of Atlanta. Colt Gray, 16, had pleaded guilty to murder and other charges. Judge Nicholas Prim, who also sentenced Colt Gray, was blunt in addressing the elder Gray. I'm reading this for you, Mark. Soon after. Search for it.

[B]

Okay. That's what I'm reading.

[A]

It is clear you failed as a parent. But he said punishing crimes of negligence is particularly difficult because there was no intent to commit a crime. My heart aches for everyone that was there that day, for all of you that have been impacted by it. But the law requires that I set aside emotion. I don't get to sentence with passion. I have the nearly impossible task of sentencing you without passion despite the immeasurable heartache that you caused. Grade 55 is one of the handful of American parents who. Who have been criminally charged after their children were accused in shootings.

[B]

There's one more piece here. The prosecutors argued that he acted with criminal negligence. Negligence by purchasing the AR style rifle used in the attack and leaving it accessible, despite warning signs about his son's deteriorating mental health and potential for violence. I just think that's the part that matters.

[D]

That matters.

[B]

That's it.

[D]

That matters. That changed it. I was sitting there like, I don't understand. That changes.

[B]

That's why I looked it up. Because I was like, something's missing here for me. And that changes. He's saying, you didn't know he's gonna do this, but you knew he was

[D]

gonna do something, but you knew he had some issues. And so for you to put the gun in the hands of a kid that has some issues is not the most responsible thing. And it is negligent. So I'm agreeing. I'm on board with that. Yep, I'm with it. I'm on board with that.

[A]

Cool with the sentencing. 15 years.

[D]

15 is a little harsh.

[B]

I'm still, you know, 15 is harsh. I have my own feelings about prison in general, and I just don't think this is the way we manage things. But I think criminalizing parenting can be tough because while the warning signs were there, when you parenting your own kid, that shit is harder than it looks. I'm not making excuses for this guy. I don't know the case. I'm literally just finding out. So I don't wanna. I'm not speaking to this case in general. I'm just saying as a practice, when we get on that slope of starting to criminalize people for things we should have seen as parents. I'm just saying we had this conversation. You know what I mean?

[D]

We had this conversation up here before, and I said that would overwhelmingly start to affect some of us in some of these inner city neighborhoods. Cause that's what they wanted to. That's what they.

[A]

That's.

[D]

That's the precedent that they setting. Cuz now when little Kit Kat and them be out here shooting or w', ing we start locking up all the parents.

[A]

That's why they needed a car.

[C]

I think he should got like five years.

[D]

I think 15. I think 15.

[B]

A lot of time. I mean a lot of people died. I mean, I just say. Is it two.

[D]

It was two deaths, right?

[B]

Oh, two.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Two deaths. Two deaths. How.

[A]

How many 14 year olds and people injured?

[D]

I. I'm not mad at the 15 team, bro.

[C]

Somebody just shot in the Tesla.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[C]

That's tough.

[D]

I'm not mad at it.

[B]

That's tough, man.

[D]

Because again, you want to send. You want to set a precedence other parents. Yeah. Now the next parent that by the AR hear this and I. I know, but that's just how this work. Next parent that by that ar, they might lock that up or they might try to make sure that they kid can't get it because damn, if he go do something that I don't know he's gonna do, it's gonna affect me too. A lot of people don't think about shit until it affects them.

[A]

So rest in peace to the kids that lost their life sales in high school. Any school shooting period, for that matter. I didn't bring this up earlier. Lioness.

[D]

Lioness is back.

[A]

Anybody seen it?

[D]

Of course.

[A]

Anybody seen Lioness? They didn't give us two episodes. They gave us one measly episode.

[D]

Mad at us.

[A]

Oh, it was great.

[D]

It was good. Was good enough. And it set the precedent. It was good enough. They bought Nicole cut Kidman's Hudson back. That was my man. Yeah, that's your favorite. We love him dynamic. Them too.

[A]

I absolutely hate Lioness's husband. I hate him. Episode one. You reminded me of how much I hate this early in the show too. We find we. We can shorty naked in the shower.

[D]

I sat up.

[A]

Me too. Both of me.

[B]

She said both of me.

[A]

That was my first. She look a little thicker in that shower than she do with them clothes on. She look all right in that shower now. And the second that I'm getting erect, here come the husband O. You mind if I shower with you, James? Cold. Was cold.

[C]

Go.

[A]

He's such a yo. He's always.

[D]

I see it.

[A]

Then they try to have breakfast. Kids wait.

[D]

Before that kid.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Kid doing.

[D]

No, no, no, no, before that. You missed your window.

[A]

Boy, I hate this.

[C]

He's.

[A]

He's the worst. He's the worst. Another one in this then at the breakfast team. Well, he want to have a smarter

[C]

off

[A]

in front of the kids. You've been around as the dad. They ain't seen mom in a second. Mom know everything. What's the capital of Venezuela? What's the capital that mom know everything. You sitting there trying to chat. He just is such a. And every time.

[C]

Oh, and then. Oh, Spoiler alert.

[A]

Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm not gonna spoil it.

[D]

No, no, no. Could they really have a real be her husband?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

No, you can't. No, you can't. She can't have that.

[A]

I think.

[D]

So you went awake, you came home shot, you went away for God knows how long. You disappear in the middle of the night. We got two daughters to raise.

[A]

This for me ties back into the Queen N' Jah check. Conversation listeners out there wondering, where's Joe going with this one? I'll tell you at some point in Lioness without spoiling it, but this ain't even really a spoiler. Come to the door. Playing around at Lioness house.

[D]

Yes, indeed.

[A]

And lioness get the lioness and do what you gotta do. Lay him down. She roar black eye.

[B]

She got busy.

[A]

Bow, bow, bow, bow. Guess who run out the house after the. With no gun, after. Everything is secure, everything is safe, everything is fine. No gun, no knife, not a golf club, no bat. He come out and his mouth just dropped. Dropped to the floor. He not you don't even say nothing. Get your ass back in the house. See, I think if you're in a relationship with a woman and she's the alpha, right? Then play your beta role. If you at the chat, if you had the dinner table with Queen Nausea and the check come and you the beta, then yes, I'm fine with Queen Nausea getting the check and you shutting the up and looking like a ass in the background. But homeboy coming out the house after she block, I block her. Lay some down.

[B]

I'm just sitting.

[A]

I hate him. I hate him.

[D]

No, the gangster part of that is

[A]

I hate that nigga.

[D]

No, the gangster part is that was six months prior. They still lived in the same house six months later.

[A]

My nigga, I what? I rewound it. Me and my girl thought. Me and my girl thought we missed something.

[D]

Yo, nigga came to the front door in the middle of the wounded, that shit.

[A]

I said front door. No way they still live there.

[D]

Y' all still live there.

[A]

That's cause you dating a beta, bitch ass nigga, man. Anyway, watch Lioness. It started out with a bad bang. Also watch Furious They. They starting out with a bang. Watch all that. It's mad going on.

[D]

And we get into the finale of Canaan. Don't tell me.

[B]

Don't tell me I'm on the last one now.

[A]

No, no.

[D]

Well, I'm saying this. This coming episode is the last one. I mean, not doing a ten piece this. This season. It's only eight.

[B]

I ain't finished the most recent one, but I'm very. It's doing great.

[D]

I know what happened on the most recent one because of Instagram, but I know. Cause of Vernon.

[B]

Yo, that show. They. They doing it.

[A]

They did it, they did it, they did it.

[D]

That's all I'm gonna say. Go ahead and watch it.

[A]

Yo, man, enjoy the television, man. Y' all hold it down. Hopefully y' all have enjoyed this broadcast as much as we've enjoyed delivering it to you. Keep us in your prayers. Lord knows we need to be there. Until the next time, we bid you adieu. Farewell.

[D]

Adio.

[A]

Cerebra dirche. Hasta la vista. Au revoir.

[C]

So long. Goodbye.

[A]

Or a simple head nod will suffice. Remember, life is a series of moments. And moments pass. So let's make this one last as if it's all we have. Ego. Last, but certainly not least. The baddies are insecure, the stagnant women want to travel. When the closed minded women want you to teach them things. Grab you a Tylenol, you might need it. Praying for the safe return of Parks and Rim. Parks, we love you. Hope you're having a blast out there. Vacation well deserved, but get your white ass back to work. Is wrong with you? What y' all got going on during the week?

[B]

Anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, Anything.

[C]

Same all the time.

[A]

Work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work.

[B]

What up, Mark? Shooting the show? I think I'm hitting the Blue Note this week to check out some. Some shows.

[D]

What shows?

[B]

I know Tyler Kweli gonna be there.

[D]

Really?

[B]

Tonight and tomorrow.

[A]

Showing me parts in the blue water on a yacht. Looking at tadpoles, turtles. Yo, Parks, if you don't get your ass back here, man, you don't even have to decency to when you get stranded somewhere to not ig post get extra lit when you stand.

[D]

We got more time here.

[C]

Let's go.

[A]

This is craziness. Man.

[D]

You looking at that as insulting.

[A]

Yeah, but not for Parks. He deserves it.

[C]

Yeah, he do.

[A]

He does deserve it.

[B]

All of it, man.

[A]

What y' all on? What y new accounts? What y' all on this week? Anything. Anything? More work. You know work, work, work I ain't got this week.

[D]

It's gaming, you know, me scamming. I said gaming.

[B]

Gaming.

[C]

Gaming, gaming. I see you. I see you.

[D]

Having a good time.

[C]

See you. Freezer.

[D]

Having a good time over there.

[A]

Glad. Glad. You look good. You look good.

[C]

Family. But he got it on lock right now.

[D]

You can't see it. What are you talking about?

[C]

I just know your tricks.

[D]

There's no tricks.

[A]

Yeah, Freeze. Yo, y' all hold it down out there.

[C]

I snuff you.

[A]

Until the next time y' all be safe. Peace, love, health, wealth, serenity, tranquility. All of that good shit, man. Nothing like some Willie Hutch to end the show, man. Why not? You've never heard of joe bunch? Where would you be without the gbp.

[C]

From the Webbing video?

[B]

It's the network.

[C]

Yes, sir.