JRE MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

Summary

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The Joe Rogan Experience — MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

Date: June 2, 2026
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Daniel Rodriguez (“D-Rod”)

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Episode Overview

This episode features UFC welterweight contender Daniel Rodriguez (“D-Rod”), who returns to share his harrowing experience of being arrested and incarcerated in Tijuana, Mexico for eight months, shortly after a major UFC victory. Rodriguez details the legal nightmare, the daily realities of Mexican jail—including cartel life and rampant corruption—and his ongoing physical and mental journey to recover in time to headline an upcoming UFC card in Serbia. The conversation extends to street fighting, the role of mental resilience in MMA, various recovery techniques, and a wide-ranging Joe Rogan-style detour into global politics, technology, and body modification trends.

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Main Topics & Segment Timestamps

1. The Arrest in Mexico and Legal Confusion

[00:14–05:41]

• Rodriguez describes being arrested for marijuana possession in Tijuana after celebrating a UFC win.
• Legal confusion: Rodriguez thought possession was decriminalized in Mexico, but as a tourist, he faced federal charges and was nearly sentenced to six years.
• He discovers that Mexican law only decriminalizes small amounts for residents, not tourists; systemic corruption and judicial elections complicate/bribe expectations.
• Quote [02:17] D Rod: “Eight months later...”
• Quote [04:03] D Rod: “They were trying to give me six years, bro.”

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2. Life in a Tijuana Jail: Survival, Cartels, and Privilege

[05:41–10:45]

• Processing hell: cramped, bug-infested intake area, extreme sleep deprivation.
• Rodriguez's reputation as a UFC fighter earns him both notoriety and protection; guards and inmates recognize him.
• The internal prison economy—bribes and “pay to play” for privileges (transfers, food, safety).
• Meeting cartel leaders and seeing their jail “luxury”: TVs, PlayStations, outside food, even contraband training equipment.
• Quote [10:52] D Rod: "Cartel leader... ‘I wanna show you around a little bit, let you know how we're running things over here…’”
• Quote [14:02] D Rod: “Immediately... they give me a brand new Nike tracksuit.”

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3. Prison ‘Fight Camp’ – Training on the Inside

[15:20–19:12]

• Rodriguez creates a makeshift gym in his cell: double-end bag from plastic, heavy bag with water jugs, running laps in the yard.
• Works out multiple times per day, but nutrition is poor—mainly junk food, with rare access to protein.
• Quote [16:46] D Rod: “It was all junk food, dude.”
• Quote [17:00] D Rod: “None [protein]... I was so skinny when I got out, bro. The only source of protein would probably be soy.”

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4. Cartel Realities, Missing Persons, and Corruption

[20:11–24:39]

• Joe and D-Rod describe how embedded and powerful cartel networks are in daily Mexican life, politics, and the prison system.
• Inmates openly discuss murders, including hitmen who killed dozens of police officers.
• Quote [23:01] D Rod: “It's crazy how murders… are not even that big of a deal over there.”

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5. The Mental Game — Street Life to MMA

[27:18–39:31]

• D-Rod’s background: gangs, street fights (hundreds, by his account); fighting as a means of protection and respect.
• Transition from the street to MMA: late starter at 25, no formal athletic background—initially drawn to MMA after watching UFC (inspired by Rampage and Chuck Liddell).
• Early days at Tapout Gym in LA; falling in love with jiu jitsu after humbling roll with a smaller, technical grappler.
• Quote [33:09] D Rod: "I just obsessed with it, man, and fell in love with the whole training experience."
• Quote [37:28] D Rod: “I just feel like in an MMA fight, it's a safe environment… I've been in situations where I don't know if I’ ma live.”

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6. Post-Incarceration: Comeback, UFC, and Mindset

[39:44–46:00]

• Rodriguez describes releasing prison workout footage after returning, becoming a Mexican dual citizen as part of his legal resolution.
• Facing the challenge of full physical recovery: lost muscle mass, malnourished, doubts about returning to fighting shape.
• Signs new six-fight UFC deal and is set to headline against Euros Medic in Serbia on August 1.
• Quote [41:00] D Rod: “My lawyers… as part of me getting out… I have dual citizenship in Mexico.”
• Quote [49:38] D Rod: “Going through all that actually made me appreciate and value everything…”

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7. Modern MMA Training, Recovery Science, and the Las Vegas Move

[52:21–59:37]

• Rodriguez trains at the UFC Performance Institute and Extreme Couture, splits time with LA gyms.
• Discussion of Las Vegas as the MMA epicenter; the PI’s role in athlete nutrition, recovery, and training (Muay Thai, jiu jitsu, boxing).
• Notable side topics: “power slap” athletes at the PI, the benefit of world-class resources in Vegas.
• Quote [53:25] Joe Rogan: “The PI is an amazing resource… as far as nutrition, cutting weight… recovery... They went all out.”

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8. Wild Rogan Tangents: White House UFC Event, Surveillance Tech, and Dead-Asses

[60:00–105:20]

• They riff about the unprecedented upcoming UFC event on the White House lawn and possible weather/bug issues.
• Surreal tales: plastinated “bodies exhibits” from China, rumors of cadaver fat injections (so-called "dead ass"/BBLs), and conspiracy-laden social media algorithms.
• Impact of GLP-1 drugs (Ozempic, Retatrutide) on weight loss, ambition, and mental health.
• Humor and horror mix:
  • Quote [97:16] Joe Rogan: “Clumpy butter ass is so hot.”
  • Quote [103:10] Joe Rogan: “If you are out there and you’re thinking about getting dead people’s fat pumped into your ass... you probably need Jesus.”

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9. Getting Back to Fight Shape – Physical & Mental Recovery

[109:08–121:53]

• D-Rod details his physical road back: from being unable to run a mile to building strength, endurance, and fighting confidence again.
• Utilizes regeneration therapies: hyperbaric chamber, NAD/NMN supplementation, PEMF beds for anti-aging and recovery.
• The grind of rebuilding from nothing—a cautionary tale for athletes and non-athletes alike about perseverance.

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10. Looking Ahead: UFC Serbia, Adversity & Final Thoughts

[121:53–138:50]

• Rodriguez anticipates fighting in Serbia as the main event, embracing the wild crowd and the symbolic “cage” after being locked behind bars.
• Discusses missed momentum from the Kevin Holland win, changes in the welterweight division during his absence, and gratitude for a second chance.
• Describes the often shocking realities inside Mexican jail: pay-for-everything economy, cartel-run privileges, drugs, and even a “menu” for conjugal visits.
• Shows Rogan his “after jail” photo—emaciated physique, reinforcing the incredible physical comeback underway.
• Quote [132:43] D Rod: “How I bounced back from there... malnourishment at its finest, bro.”
• Quote [134:59] Joe Rogan: “You don’t appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain.”

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Notable Quotes

• On Mexican Jail:
  “They were trying to give me six years, bro.” — D Rod [04:03]

• On Corruption:
  “Everybody’s trying to get paid... It’s very corrupt in there.” — D Rod [05:25]

• On Prison Training:
  “I ended up spending this whole time like in a boxing fight camp...” — D Rod [15:38]

• On MMA Mindset:
  “In an MMA fight, it’s a safe environment… I’ve been in situations where I don’t know if I’ ma live.” — D Rod [37:28]

• On Mental Benefits of Adversity:
  “Truly believe that through the work... I’m going to be perfect, peak shape.” — D Rod [48:19]

• On Coming Back:
  “I was so out of shape, bro. I was like, ‘My career is over, dude’... But I’m a soldier, dude. I can bounce back from this.” — D Rod [47:06]

• On Modern Training Resources:
  “The PI is an amazing resource... so you don’t have to worry about testing positive for anything.” — Joe Rogan [53:25]

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Memorable Moments

• Prison “Fight Camp”: D Rod’s resourcefulness in fashioning training equipment from prison supplies and even holding mitt workouts with a cartel leader.
• Jail Cartel Economy: Buying better accommodation, electronics, or even conjugal visits if you can pay—sometimes more easily than getting protein powder.
• Social Media Rumors: Amused at the wild speculation about his disappearance—including building wells in Rwanda and being bailed out for a Kevin Holland rematch.
• Post-Prison Physique Reveal: D Rod shares with Joe a shockingly thin, malnourished photo of himself upon release.
• Comedic Tangent: Joe’s rant on “dead ass” (cadaver fat injections), ending: “You probably need Jesus.” [103:10]

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Useful Takeaways (Summary)

• Legal Reality Check for Travelers: Mexican drug policy is complex; tourists can face harsh penalties if caught, despite surface legality.
• MMA & Mental Resilience: D-Rod’s journey is a study in survival—what it really means to maintain focus and return to elite sport after extreme adversity.
• Prison Life: In Mexico, money changes everything—corruption is systemic, cartel influence is omnipresent, and nothing is off limits for a price.
• Bouncing Back: Even after devastating malnutrition and loss of conditioning, the human body (and mind) is capable of profound recovery.

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For More

• Key Fight Announcement: D-Rod headlines UFC Serbia vs. Euros Medic on August 1.
• Fan Message: D-Rod thanks supporters and emphasizes gratitude, urging others to appreciate health and opportunity.

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This episode delivers a wild, sometimes harrowing and often hilarious journey through the underworld of Mexican incarceration, the resilience required to be a top MMA athlete, and the uniquely Rogan world of modern oddities and technology skepticism.

Transcript

[D Rod]

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[Joe Rogan]

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[D Rod]

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[Joe Rogan]

D Rod Free.

[D Rod]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

What a crazy story. So let's. Let's fill people in. So you were a top contender in the UFC's welterweight division, and then somehow or another, you wound up getting arrested in Mexico.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. Right after the Kevin Holland fight, actually, I was. I was in. I was celebrating. I was over in San Diego, had some drinks, and decided, you know what? Let's go to. Let's go to tj Sues.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, always a phrase that is regretted.

[D Rod]

We're not even there in San Diego.

[Joe Rogan]

You're drinking. You could walk there.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah, literally. So, decided to go to. To TJ for the night, you know, go celebrate my win. I was obviously in celebration mode, and I had an ounce of weed in the car, you know, And I've been across the border a hundred times, bro. Never had no issues, never had no problems, never got stopped, pulled over. That's the last thing I would even

[Joe Rogan]

think is that we was legal in Mexico.

[D Rod]

I thought. I thought so, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, here, everything's decriminalized down there.

[D Rod]

Apparently not, man. The. The laws are, like, crazy, crazy strict over there, you know, And I've been in situations before where I could, like, just offer some money and get out the situation, you know, like 500 bucks at. the most, you know, they'll just let me on my way. But got pulled over at the border, and the border inspection found. Found the weed in my. In my. My backpack. And I was thinking I was going to be in that situation where I could bribe my way out of it because it's Mexico. I've been there before, and. And I've been in these situations, and. Oh, man, I thought, you know, they took me to jail that night, and I was thinking, all right, I'm just gonna be here for the weekend. I'll get out Monday, you know, go to court. And they're like, no, we'll see you in a month. I'm like, a month? You know? Like, why? It's just weed. You know what I mean? And, yeah. Eight months later.

[Joe Rogan]

Holy shit.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Jamie, can you please look up what the laws are in Mexico for marijuana? Because, man, I was reading something just a few years ago how they. Here goes. Marijuana is decriminalized for personal recreational use in Mexico, but there's no legal commercial market, and buying it or selling it remains illegal for tourists and visitors. Possession is strictly prohibited.

[D Rod]

Wait, what the hell?

[Joe Rogan]

It's tourists and Visitors. So for everybody else, you would be good. Like, if you were a Mexican resident, you would have been good. It looks like, according to this, personal limits can possess up to 5 grams, and up to 28 grams is decriminalized. How many grams are in an ounce? It's one ounce. 28.

[D Rod]

Yeah, so it was a. It was approximately 28 grams.

[Joe Rogan]

So approximately, you should have been decriminalized. But the thing is, I think it's. If you live there, the border. Transporting marijuana, including edibles and concentrates across the U.S. mexico border is either in either direction is a serious federal offense. U.S. customs and Border Protection strictly enforces federal laws prohibiting the import export of cannabis. But wait a minute. That's. That's us. But what about Mexico? You got arrested by Mexican police, right?

[D Rod]

Yeah, I got. I got arrested on either direction.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow. But. But I feel like if you got arrested by Mexico anyway, tourists, while small possession is technically decriminalized. Mexican residents, the Mexican government explicitly prohibits tourists from possessing or consuming drugs, and you could face serious jail time. So that's crazy. Like, people would go over there going, hey, no worries. I'm in Mexico. It's decriminalized here. But not for a dude.

[D Rod]

They were trying to give me six years, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God, six years.

[D Rod]

And I had. We had to do all kinds of stuff for me to get out, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, did the UFC get involved?

[D Rod]

Hunter did. My management did reach out to Hunter, and they couldn't do anything. The reason why, I think somebody who

[Joe Rogan]

could get a little of that.

[D Rod]

All right, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. Because I'm out. I'm out. You know? And so I learned real quick how corrupt the. The system is over there. Everybody's trying to get. Trying to get paid. And the reason why that I was in there so long is, I guess at the time where I got arrested, the. The. The whole judicial system was going through an election at the time. So it was new judges that. So all the. All the judges that were, like, taking bribes and stuff before they had all got. They switched out the judges. So the new judges were. There were like, all right, we just got here. We're not trying to take. No. Know, we're trying to play it by the book and get comfortable. So I was supposed to get released in December, and. And I guess I don't even know if. If I could even really.

[Joe Rogan]

Don't get in trouble.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Don't get in trouble. It ain't worth it. You tell me later if it's anything super crazy.

[D Rod]

It's very corrupt. It's very corrupt in there. But, you know, it's. It's crazy, dude, like, even being in there. So my whole experience. My whole experience in there was, like, so crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

How old do you speak Spanish?

[D Rod]

I'm. I'm a expert now. I'm like, okay, fluent.

[Joe Rogan]

Because of that experience, or before.

[D Rod]

I had already been. You're obviously, I had already known. I already know Spanish, but being in there, it's, like, became fluent.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but thank God you could speak it. Imagine, like, I got arrested in Mexico.

[D Rod]

I'd be. Yeah, so when I first got there, when I went to court the first time, one of the guards recognized me, and he's like, you know, I'm in handcuffs, and he's like, yo, can I get a picture?

[Joe Rogan]

I'm like, what? What?

[D Rod]

So I'm right there taking pictures with the guards.

[Joe Rogan]

So surreal. Yeah, you're fucking. Top UFC contender in cuffs in jail. The fucking guard wants to take a picture with you. Wow.

[D Rod]

While I'm in handcuffs. And the other inmates were, like, looking around like, what the. Who is this guy? You know, because, like, the. The guard was like, yo, this is. This is such. And such, you know? So as we're getting transported to the jail, which was the worst? I mean, I've been in jail before. I've, like. Like from the age of 15, like, 23, I was constantly in and out of jail. You know, I'm from la. You know, I was, you know, gang member, and, you know, living in the hood and this time around was a whole different experience. One, I'm in a foreign country, and so I get there, and they put us, like, in the. In the processing area, and the processing area is, like, probably about this. This big. And, like, 20 dudes in there all sleeping on the floor. Two dudes per bunk. Three. Three on a three bunk. Three levels. Bunks. And I was there for, like, the first. Like, the first 10 days, and it was. Hell, bro. It was the worst. Like, I had. I don't know what kind of bugs there was in there, but they were, like, biting up my whole body. I had, like. Like, just. Just bite. I don't know what it was, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

It was like, bedbugs, probably something.

[D Rod]

Yeah, probably. Probably bedbugs or something.

[Joe Rogan]

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[D Rod]

when I had first got there, one of the inmates that saw that seen the guards taking pictures of me was like, we were right there conversating the whole time. And he, he had, he had just got released from there, but he had did five years. He was out for like two weeks, got arrested with the gun and then came back. So he's like, hey, I'm, it's like, I'm gonna try to get you out of here, you know. And over there, the guards had tried to charge me seven grand, bro, to get me out of that, to get me out of that cell and to move me into like a better, a better place. Because over there, if you got, if you got some money, you'll be all right, you know? And so right before that happened, the dude that was like, yo, I'll come back for you, bro. Don't even worry about it.

[Joe Rogan]

So how does this work? Does the guard come up to you and go, hey, I can get you in a cell, but it'll cost you 7,000. Yeah. They come up to you and tell you that.

[D Rod]

Yeah. So the dude that. That was. That was that I had got to the. The prison with, he comes back down, and he's like, hey. He's like, hey. The guards came, they pulled me out, and they pull me. They bring me to a whole different, like, section of. Of. Of the prison. Third. The third floor and the second building. And I go up there, and I'm escorted by the guards, and there's, like, a curtain. It's like a. A curtain covering, like, the tear. And I'm like, what the is going on? Like, why is there a curtain? And I get in there, and they pull me to this dude, and this dude's like, oh, you're. You're a UFC fighter. You know, it turns out dude's like, head of the cartel, you know, like a cartel leader. And he's like. He's like, oh. He's like, I want to just show you around a little bit, let you know how. How we're running things over here. You know, kind of just gave me the rundown, and this dude had it made. You know, I get there, and there's TVs in the cell. Dude has a PlayStation. He has, like. Like, a whole bunch of just all the amenities you can think of, you know, he's like, yeah, he's like, showing me around and kind of kind of showing me off. Like, hey, hey, guys, look. Look at this guy. Looks guy, you know, he's a UFC fighter, you know, And I'm like, all right, you know, what's going on here? You know? And, like, you know, because it's jail, dog. You know, I'm like, if anything happens, I'm use all my experience to survive this. Right, right. And so he's like, just pretty much give me the rundown. He's like, yo. He's like, I run it here. This is like, pretty much, you know, our.

[Joe Rogan]

Our.

[D Rod]

This is our home, you know? So that dude was facing some charges. He got released, and he was facing some charges of. Him and his, like, 13 dudes. He got arrested with his whole crew. Him and 13 dudes were all on that tier, so he had all his whole. His whole squad with them, and they had got arrested for dressing up as. As, like, government officials or, like, military dudes, and they would go, like, raid dope houses and. And. And take their drugs, whatever. So they had got it all arrested for that, and they were facing some serious time. And. And I'm. I'm over here, like, I just got arrested for a ounce of weed, bro. This is crazy. He's like, oh, no, you'll be out soon. Don't even worry about it. But if you want, we could get you, we can get you like accommodated and you could come up here with us, you know, like, you be my cellmate or whatever. You could be wherever you want. I'm like, all right. He's like, yeah, but it's going to cost you a little bit of money. I was like, oh yeah, how much? Like 3,000. And I looked at the guard, the guard that was trying to charge me seven. I was like, he said seven. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. He's trying to get more extra money out of you. Like, but you do got to like pay to get up here and like kind of like pay rent a little bit, you know, to the guards. So I'm like, all right, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, all right, cool. So immediately I, I was like, yeah, let's do it. So they give me like this brand new, like Nike tracksuit.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah.

[D Rod]

And I'm like, all right. He's like, we'll come, we'll come up here tomorrow. So I get there, I get there and he's like, yeah, just be my soulmate. So I pretty much ended up being like, this guy's like, I ended up getting the, the feeling like I was like his protection kind of like, or like, you know, like when we go to yard, I just be like, he'd be like, hey, walk with me, like, and I'll kind of like just. I got the impression like, like, like, all right, I'm his cellmate, you know, like, I got this guy's back, you know, he got my back, I got his and I really trusted him, you know, and, and, and that's one hard thing to do in jail, but like, you catch vibes off people real easy, you know, and, and, and yeah, dude, it was just a crazy ass experience, dude. I ended up, we ended up working out with the, with the, working it out with the, with the guards to, to get me some boxing gloves, dude. I ended up getting some boxing gloves in there, some, some mitts. And it just so happened that the dude that I was cellmates with, he had a little bit of boxing experience. So he, he had been a boxer before, so I was like, oh, perfect, you know, and he actually knew how to hold pads and stuff, so. So I ended up spending this whole time.

[Joe Rogan]

Please tell me he didn't spar him.

[D Rod]

No, no, he wanted to.

[Joe Rogan]

That's how it goes south.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm glad you're smart. You know what I'm saying? Like you said boxing gloves. I'm like, oh, please tell me this doesn't end the way I think it ends.

[D Rod]

No, no. Yeah, we ended up. We ended up actually being really cool. And yeah, dude, I ended up pretty much spending this whole time like in a boxing fight camp, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, wow.

[D Rod]

Yeah, I remember. I. I even, I even made like a, a makeshift double land bag. What I did was like, I got balled up like a bunch of plastic bags. Like really, like, like made it real tight and like so it's like hard. Threw it in a sock. I was able to, to, to buy from the guards. Like.

[Joe Rogan]

Bungee cord.

[D Rod]

Yeah, bungee cord. And then set that up.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, nice.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And I made a heavy bag because they had like these big gallons of water and, and I got the gallon of water and I wrapped it with like the, the mat from the, from the bed. So I was. And I just threw it in a bag and we had like a pull up bar in our, in our cell and I made a, I made a heavy bag out of that. And then whenever we go to yard, I would just spend the whole time running that yard and I was just trying to do everything I could do to try and stay in shape, man. And it just. Time went, time went on. The time went on. The time went on.

[Joe Rogan]

And what kind of food did they get you in his cell?

[D Rod]

It was all junk food, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Still?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, it was all junk food. Like chips, noodles, damn soda, you know, water, condiments.

[Joe Rogan]

So no protein?

[D Rod]

None. None, none, none whatsoever. And I didn't think about that part, you know, because I was working out like crazy and I was getting shredded. But as time went on, my mother, like, like when I got out, I was skinny as hell, bro. I was skinny as hell. And, and the only source of protein would probably be soy.

[Joe Rogan]

Jesus Christ.

[D Rod]

Yeah, so they'll give.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, couldn't you bribe someone to bring in some meat if you're the cartel?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing. Like, this was crazy. Like, so towards the end, towards like the, the final end of it, I guess the guards started cracking down on, on like a lot of the stuff that was going on. So we started to, to lose a lot of those amenities that we were getting in the beginning. And, and I, I was just, you know, when I got out, I was just malnourished as hell, bro. I'll show you a picture later, like, of what I looked like when I got out. Completely different person.

[Joe Rogan]

How much weight did you lose.

[D Rod]

I didn't really lose that much weight, but it was just, like, more. My muscles were just.

[Joe Rogan]

Were you thinking about going to 55? Were you like, damn, I might be able to make 55?

[D Rod]

I made. I've made 155. One. 155 one time in my career, dude, you made 55.

[Joe Rogan]

That must have been. Hell, yeah.

[D Rod]

It was my. It was the worst fight camp ever. It was all based on just losing the weight. Losing the weight. And then I was just so. I remember after the. I made 155, I didn't want to go to the gym for, like, a month, bro. I was like, dude, I need a. This. This. Like, my body was just done, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you're killing your body.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What is this?

[D Rod]

Oh, yeah, that's some of the workouts I was doing while I was in prison.

[Joe Rogan]

But no protein, unfortunately.

[D Rod]

Yeah, but no protein. So I was getting pretty shredded, like, when. In. In that, like, period in time. That was when we had, like, a lot of, like, we had food and everything was cool. And if you notice.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, look at that, the double end bag. That's nice, dude.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude. And, like, you can see the TV in the back, right? On the PlayStation. But, I mean, it wasn't.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude, you're looking good.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Tighten those hands up. Nice, I bet.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. It's just like. It was like, a whole experience. It was crazy because this guy, he'd be like, you know, the guards will come and be like, hey, leave my door open. Yeah, and the guards will actually leave this door open. So, like, we were able to, like, walk around the tier and go talk to other people. Like me. I kept to myself a lot. Like, I've been in jail like, a ton of times before, and I learned. I learned easily that, you know, you'll. You'll. You'll go, like, along. You'll get by if you just mind your own business and not get involved in shit and not get involved with things. So I, like, I would just stick to myself, you know, and just, you know, just get my workout on and. And avoid trouble. Avoid trouble, you know? But it was crazy to see firsthand how the cartel operates. And it's crazy, man. They got their hands in everything over there. Of course, everything.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, there. There was 37 assassinations in Mexico last election. 37? Yeah, different political people. And I was talking to Ed Calderon. Do you know who he is? Yeah, yeah, he's Ed Manifesto on Instagram. He was. He used to work for the Mexican government, and then he became an American citizen. And he was involved with prosecuting the cartel, going after them, stuff like that. And he was essentially saying that, like the entire judicial system, all the mayors, everyone, if they get in, they're cartel members. Like, no one gets in. No one is a. No one is a mayor unless they're in the cartel. And when they're getting assassinated, it's cartel assassinations. It's one cartel, you know, wants their guy in and another cartel wants their guy in and they just shoot the other dude.

[D Rod]

Yeah, 37.

[Joe Rogan]

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[D Rod]

So one of the guys there was actually the actual hitman who was actual like hitman. And he was in there like, he's like, yeah, man, I've killed like 30 cops in, in my whole experience. And he was in there for. And they were, they were just like telling me about all these things. I'm like, dude, like, everybody is involved in this. It's crazy. You know, and, and, and over here, like, if you kill a cop, they're like, they're coming after you. But over there, you know, I guess it's just another thing. Killing, killing over there.

[Joe Rogan]

Lower tier than the cartel. That's what it is.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The cartel have more money, more power, more influence. Yeah.

[D Rod]

And it's crazy. How, like murders just. They're not even that big of a deal over there, you know, While I was in there, I, I, I, I, I, I was reading or I saw that Mexico has the Guinness World Record for missing missing persons.

[Joe Rogan]

Holy, dude.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. There's so many, like, it was so many hitmen in there. It was crazy. But, you know, I didn't, I didn't have. I didn't get no from nobody, you know, Everybody was like, cool as hell.

[Joe Rogan]

That's awesome. Well, you're an easy to get along with, dude.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Luckily, yeah. Did anybody ask you to train them?

[D Rod]

Actually, dude, there's some dogs in there, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet.

[D Rod]

There's this one guy in particular. I'm like, dude, you got to fucking start fighting. You like. And he's like, he's. He was one of, One of the military dudes, and he's just a little machine, dude. And in the time that I was there, he got, he got really good really quick, you know, And I'm like, dude, you gotta, like, go to the gym down in tj, that interim gym. I had, I had mentioned, like, yo, even when I got, When I, When I got released, that, man, we, we did a whole lot of things to try to get me out, man. There's a ton of fighters even try to pull some strings for me, like Yair Rodriguez, you know, Brandon Moreno, he's from tj. And nobody could help me out, man. Everybody tried to pull strings for me,

[Joe Rogan]

and nobody came up with a number, did they?

[D Rod]

Eventually.

[Joe Rogan]

What was. How much? What was the number? Can you tell? I don't want you to get in trouble. Nah, no, don't get in trouble.

[D Rod]

Yeah, but it was.

[Joe Rogan]

Talk to me later.

[D Rod]

It was hefty. It was. I bet it was not cheap. I bet it was not cheap at all.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Everybody wants to get paid. Yeah.

[D Rod]

Yeah. It's crazy, Crazy experience, dude. And to get out of jail, you know, and then. And then. Now I have this fight I'm headlining. Headlining ufc. Serbia. First time in Serbia fighting Euros. Medic.

[Joe Rogan]

When is that fight?

[D Rod]

August 1st.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice.

[D Rod]

Yeah. To get out of. To get, to go through all that and then. And then to have this opportunity is just crazy. And to be here. To be here is just. Is just crazy, man. Cuz I didn't, I didn't think I was going to get. I wasn't sure if I was going to get out, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I thought, good reason. A lot of people don't.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, United States prison system is too, but nothing Like, Mexico's. Everybody that I've talked to that is in any experience in Mexican jail, and I'm like, dude, it's not good.

[D Rod]

Yeah, no, man, it was. It was crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

I just can't believe the cartel can't sneak meat in.

[D Rod]

We did sometimes.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, sometimes, yeah, we did.

[D Rod]

Some. We had. They would bring us groceries, bro. Oh, really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, because that's the first thing that I would want, man. I would feel like, look, what do we got to do? These guards. What kind of car do you drive, dog? Let's upgrade that. We got to do something. I can't be eating noodles.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Especially as hard as you work out.

[D Rod]

Yeah, I was, I was working out like 2, 3. 3 hard, hard workouts a day, you know, I'll do. So I'm kind of programmed like, like to just work out, you know. I think, I think from my priority jail experiences before, the only positive thing that I think that helped me in that whole. Everything that I've been through is like, when you're in jail, like, I personally, I'm like, I would, I would think like, dude, you. You got to be strong. You got to be able to defend yourself. You're gonna like, that's. That's my whole reason for, for staying in shape, you know, When I started doing mma, it was just to be able to defend myself, you know, in situations like if I ever did go to jail, you know. And the only thing that I positive that I, that I took from that is like, when I got. When I'll get released from prison prior, I just want to work out. I'm already programmed to, to just work out all day, you know. So once I found mma, I was like, oh, this is perfect, you know? And, and how old were you when

[Joe Rogan]

you first started training?

[D Rod]

25.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Turn into a UFC contender. That's very impressive. Not a lot of guys started late. Did you have any sports experience before that?

[D Rod]

None, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Nothing?

[D Rod]

None.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy.

[D Rod]

None. But I had, I had been in. No, though I had been in probably around 200 street fights already, including all my jail experience. You know, when I was in juvenile hall, I was a straight knucklehead, bro. Like, I was fighting like every other day and it was just. It became just fun. Just fun. Like if, like, you were like a, like a tough looking dude of like, hey, what's up, man? Want to scrap or what, bro? Like, you know, I'll just. He's like, why? Because you're big, bro. I just want to fight you. Yeah, yeah. And.

[Joe Rogan]

And with no training. You had no training at all?

[D Rod]

No. No training. Just. Just wanting. Just want to learn how to fight. I just want to be.

[Joe Rogan]

By fighting.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's a crazy way to learn.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude. Just. And, like, dude, you can't. I mean, like, imagine getting a fight with your cellmate. I got some crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. Yeah, you gotta sleep together.

[D Rod]

Sleep with one eye open, bro. Like, at all. Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, so that's. That's the only experience I had prior to. To start an mma. And then I remember I stopped going to jail when I was, like, 23. When I stopped going to jail, I started having kids. I'm like, all right, gotta start. I gotta stop gang banging. Because I used to think going to jail was cool. Yeah, I used to think it was cool because you get out and you just have, like, a little more respect. Like. Like, I thought. I thought it was cool. I thought, like. Like, oh, going to jail makes you a badass, you know? But once I started having kids, I realized, like, all right, I gotta take care of. I got human beings I gotta. I gotta take care of and raise, you know? So I started looking for every. Any possible way to try to live a decent life. And I've tried everything, man. I've had every job you could think of, and. But I've even had good jobs before, and I've lost them, you know, by just being a knucklehead and going back to jail. And I remember I got out of prison one time, and my cousin hits me up, and he's like, yo, come to my house, bro. We're gonna watch some fights and barbecue and stuff. I was like, all right. Yeah, dope. I was like, who's fighting? He's like, some dude Rampage. I'm like, who? The Rampage? So I get there, and that's when Forest Griffin had a. Fought Rampage, won the. The light heavyweight title. And I'm like, yo, this is amazing, bro. And then I fell in love with Chuck Liddell, and I'm like, dude, this. He's just like, me, bro. He's like, knock him, dudes out, you know? And then I just obsessed with it. I just obsessed.

[Joe Rogan]

So that was your first exposure to mma?

[D Rod]

I had seen it before, like, when it was Tank Abbott. Yeah. In the early days, but it never caught my attention, like, because I had always been a boxing fan. I'm a huge boxing fan. And. And I grew up watching boxing. Like, all of, like, majority of my family functions growing up, they were all boxing events, like Oscar de LA Hoya, Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather. And. And I was just. I loved boxing, you know, And I remember. I mean, I did have a little bit of experience before going into mma, because when I lived in the hood, I would always have boxing gloves and I would always make my homies fight each other. Like, when we're all hanging, like, hey, you go with him. You go with him. Because, like, you know, we're all boys, and I want them to, like, I always wanted them to. To. To. In case. In case anything happens, in case we're ever all out and we get in a rumble with somebody or anything like that, like, try to make my homies more tougher, you know, because, like, hey, you guys got to have my back. I got yours. And that's just. That's. That's just something we just did, you know? Or, like, well, we'll just go body shots, body punches, you know, Right. And just fight each other. So that's kind of my background, bro, to be honest with you. And. And, yeah, man, I just. I just. I just carried that into the. Into the gym when I first went.

[Joe Rogan]

I remember the first gym you went to.

[D Rod]

It's called. It was called Tap out in downtown la.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay.

[D Rod]

At the time, I think that's. I was training with Eddie Bravo, and. And he had moved in 10th last. So that's when I first. When I first started, I wanted to box.

[Joe Rogan]

And I remember the Tap Out Jim very well. Yeah, yeah, that was great gym.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And I remember when I first started going there, I was working construction. I was. I was working on a high rise in downtown la, and. And I would pass by every day. I'm like, man, I want to go in there, you know, But I never, like, would go in there. I'll just pass by and I'll get home and I talk to my baby mom. Like, man, there's this gym called Tap Out. I really want to go, you know? She's like, oh, yeah. But I was talking about all the time, but I never had, like. I don't know, you know, it's kind of nervous. It's kind of nervous going walking into a gym for the first time and you don't know, like, what to expect or. But I was just a fan. And so I walked. Actually, the way I got started was, it was. It was our anniversary, and as a gift, she gave me a gym membership. And then I went to the gym and the. The coaches were like, yo, dude. Like, who is this guy? You know? But when I first went in there, I was like, so raw and just so like street fight, street fighting experience. But I had power. I had some power and, you know, I just fell in love with it. And the, the coaches were like, even the days I wouldn't show up, because in the beginning of it, I was still like, still had that knucklehead mentality. I'll still be out partying with my friends or not show up to the gym and coaches will actually call me like, yo, work, where are you at? You need to be in the gym, you need to be training. So I guess what helped me in the beginning was my. Actually my coach is like, really noticing that I had like a talent, you know, I had, I had potential. And I just obsessed with it, man, and fell in love with the whole training experience. And, and I remember my first time trying jiu jitsu. It was a skinny, skinny, dorky looking dude like, hey, you need to, you need to come train Jiu jitsu, man. Come train you. I was like, nah, Because I remember right before I watching it, I was like, oh, man, wrestling is good. Gay, dude. Hey, dude, wrestling is gay. Nobody trying to watch that, you know? And then obviously, like, you go through that experience. So like, all right, so the skinny dude is like, come on, man, just try it out. I bet you can't, you know, I bet you I could make you tap or whatever. Like, nah, nah, he went, strangled me, you know, I'm like, oh, hell no. No, I hate losing, bro. So I was like. And there, there's. There's two different kinds of people. There's people that will get their ass whooped and just like, nah, this ain't for me. Or you get your ass whipped. You're like, I never want that to happen again, you know? So I would show up every day, determine like, one day I'm gonna, One day I'm gonna win. One day I'm gonna get him. One day I'm gonna get him. And that honestly kept me, kept me in the game.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, it's amazing how little tiny dudes can you up, dude.

[D Rod]

That's the last thing I expected. I was like, what?

[Joe Rogan]

Jiu jitsu is the only thing that, like, you know, in martial arts movies, there was always this myth that the little guy can up all the bigger guys.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But with striking, that's hard. Power is real, size is real, mass is real. There's just too, you know, too many variables. If a guy knows how to throw a good one two, you might be he hits you in the clinch, you can't get away from his clinch, he's too strong. He clubs you. You're. But jiu jitsu, man, there's no lucky punches in jiu jitsu. And that's what's crazy. When a little guy just annihilates you, it's so humbling. My first experience was a dude who was a purple belt, I was a white belt, and he was my size. I was like, this dude's my size. Like, this. Isn't that a bigger dude? This is going to be, you know, competitive. Not. He just raped me, just did whatever the. He wanted to do to me. Armbar me, triangled me. And I remember leaving, going, I am so delusional. I had this idea in my head, you know, that I knew how to fight. And then until I started doing Jiu jitsu, I was like, I don't know anything. I'm helpless. Like, completely helpless.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But, you know, like, you, the, the, the smart thing to do, like what you did is just go, I want to learn that, you know, and you having the courage to do that, you know, especially as a guy who didn't have any martial arts experience at all, just like, throw yourself into it. It's very difficult to do, man. And especially at 25.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because by 25, like, Jon Jones had already been a UFC champion and defended it multiple times. You know, it's like by the time you're starting out, so many guys are like, in the middle of their career.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

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[D Rod]

So that's one thing that I've always thought about and why I work so hard is like, I feel like I have to catch up to these dudes that have been doing this their whole life, you know, like, like, dudes have been in the gym since they were kids doing karate. And, you know, there's.

[Joe Rogan]

There is a thing, though, about having a lot of street fights. There's a mental edge to being in a lot of conflict and a lot of combat. One things I've always noticed about you, when you fight, you're very calm. Like, when you get in there, you're very relaxed.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, and it's like life experience, you know, that's a factor.

[D Rod]

Yeah. I just feel like in an MMA fight, It's, It's a safe environment. Like, believe it or not, to me, it's safe. Right. You know, because I've been, I've been in. Because if anything goes wrong, the rest right there, like, all right, there, that's it. It's done. You know, this is a fair fight. You know, I've been in situations where I don't know if I' ma live. Right. You know, if I don't survive this, I might die.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[D Rod]

You know, and, and I think that I carry that a lot, you know, while I fight, and that's why I look so calm, because I've been. I'm calm and hectic. Sit. Like, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not the worst thing you've experienced. That's For a lot of fighters, it's the most dangerous thing they've ever experienced.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And they step into that octagon, they close that door, and they're looking across this octagon, and another train killer like, oh, boy. This is the scariest thing that's ever happened to them.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So there's a mental benefit that you have for having all those street fights, and even though you didn't start until late, man, the mental game might be most of fighting, you know?

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. When, when, when I step in there, I'm just. I'm just happy to be there, you know? Like, I, I, I'm lucky to be out here. I'm lucky to be. Have my freedom. I'm lucky to be alive, you know? So when I'm, When I'm walking out to a fight, like, I just feel. I just feel happy, dude. I'm just, I'm just. It's just happy happiness, like, you know, because while I'm backstage, I'm like, thinking, how did I get here, dude? You know? Like, I'm just, How the did I do this? How did I make it this far, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[D Rod]

And, you know, like, a situation like, like this, like, we're fresh out of. Fresh out of jail, you know, and, And I'm like, dude, like, main event in Serbia against a guy from Serbia is crazy, bro. But you know what? Just live. Live that, man. I, like, I told myself, like, dude, this is your opportunity to, to tell, like, to, like, this shit's a movie, bro. Like, my life is crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It is a movie if you think about it. I mean, very few people live that life. In and out of jail many times, locked up in Mexico for eight months, never knowing if you're gonna get out. Next thing you know, you're headlining a UFC card.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. Sitting here.

[Joe Rogan]

Main event.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Sitting here on the Joe Rogan Experience. You know, telling my story is just,

[Joe Rogan]

you know, where's Euros medic ranked? Is he above you?

[D Rod]

He's number 13. What are you at 15?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. So both of you guys top contenders.

[D Rod]

I'm surprised. Throughout that whole process, they kept me in the rankings.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, good respect to them. You know, also, they probably realized you were probably working out in jail.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

But I mean, well, it's not. You shouldn't be punished for something like that like that. You get stuck in a crazy situation.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Especially if you're coming from California where weed's legal. Everybody gets confused, you know, you have that weed in California. Everybody is everywhere. It's totally legal.

[D Rod]

That's why it didn't even. I know. It didn't even cross my mind. It didn't even cross my mind. I know. Hey, we can get in trouble for this.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. You know, I would have never known those laws because I heard that it was decriminalized. I thought, oh, they don't. They got other to worry about. They're, you know, they got cartel problems and fentanyl problems. They don't give a. If you're bringing in weed.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Well, now. Now I have a part of. Of the process of me getting out is like, I had to get, like, now I have dual citizenship in Mexico now. You do? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because of getting out?

[D Rod]

No, no. My lawyers. It was a part of me getting out. So, like, when you pulled up the. The. The decriminalized the laws for. Yes, the laws for citizens. So that. That was a process of.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, so you became a citizen so the law was less for you.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious.

[D Rod]

So it was a ton of stuff that we had to do, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That is a crazy loophole.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah. So now people are asking, damn, everybody

[Joe Rogan]

should become a citizen of Mexico.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. I ain't never going back to Mexico. I'm not going back for a while, bro. I cannot see myself. I don't even want to go back, so. Especially since I released the footage of me working out in prison and stuff. Like, I don't ever want to go to Mexico, and. And for any reason. They're like, get his ass. You know, bring it back.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. And they probably would, too.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

At the very least, try to get more money out of you.

[D Rod]

Definitely.

[Joe Rogan]

Especially after headlining a UFC card.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And on top of that, like. Like. Like releasing that footage was, like, definitely like, a.

[Joe Rogan]

No.

[D Rod]

No. But since. How did you.

[Joe Rogan]

Did they all have cell phones inside?

[D Rod]

Yeah, so we had. We had cell phones. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So were you texting your friends? You could text your lawyer, all that shit?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you worry that your text would be intercepted?

[D Rod]

No, no, not at all. Cuz I would text everybody or call everybody on WhatsApp and I guess.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's encrypted.

[D Rod]

Yeah, it's encrypted.

[Joe Rogan]

And so when you're doing all this and filming all this, you just saved the footage and then when you got out.

[D Rod]

No, I would, I would send it. I would send it to, like, my friends. So I, I sent it to one of my buddies and I was like, yo, save all this stuff, because when I get out, this is gonna. This is gonna be. It's gonna be big, bro, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I'm glad they didn't release it before you got out. Yeah, yeah, you gotta really trust your friends because that could have been.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. And the whole time, like, knowing you would know when you were all zat, no one knew what was going on. And there's a couple rumors going around that I was backpacking in per one was. Was one of my buddies. Like, it's crazy how the Internet believes anything, bro. Like, there's. People thought I was building wells in Rwanda. Like, one of my buddies said that he's like, oh, he's building wells in Rwanda, doing God's work. And like, people ran with that. Like, hey, actually, people, when I got released right away, they were like, oh, Kevin Holland bailed him out. Kevin Holland bailed him out to get a rematch. And people believe that.

[Joe Rogan]

That's hilarious. That's so funny. Must have been so weird. So when you're inside, did you. Did they have the Internet? Would they. Could they watch fights?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, actually. So they ended up putting like these cell like scramblers, like these towers that like, mess up the signal. And we ended up getting. What's that, that Tesla thing? Starlink. We ended up getting Starlink. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God, that's insane.

[D Rod]

Yeah, we ended up getting StarLink and had Wi Fi for a little while. And then I remember we ended up losing all that stuff because, like, every. Every once in a while they'd be like, hey, the guards will come. Like, hey, they're gonna come do inspections. And, you know, so they would like, hide everything. And I remember this one time they hid everything and they're like, oh, we're not going to give back to you guys. So we ended up that, like, I'd say, like, by. By the fifth month. That's when, like, they really started cracking down and stopped bringing us, like, the extra food. And the food that, like, the prison food in there, dude, is. It's the worst. It's terrible. Terrible. Tortillas, like, with every meal, like, five tortillas, rice or beans, and, like, some kind of, like, soup. But the soup is pretty much. There's no meat in it. It's. It's. Majority of. It's, like, potatoes and carrots, you know, like.

[Joe Rogan]

So you're only protein you're getting from beans?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah. And it was just horrible. Dirty, unsanitary.

[Joe Rogan]

The first thing you ate when you got out?

[D Rod]

First thing I ate when I got out was a double western bacon cheeseburger from Carl's Jr.

[Joe Rogan]

The best ever.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. And I couldn't even finish it because at the time, like, my stomach was so. I got. I, like, I got full as hell, man. Like, I. It was crazy. And, man, I was so skinny when I got out, bro. It was crazy. So, like, this whole time, I just been, like, trying to. To just bulk back up, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

So what did you wet. Did you weigh yourself when you got out?

[D Rod]

When I weighed. I weighed myself when I got out, and I normally walk around. Around 200, and I was, like, around 180, you know? But I looked horrible, bro. Like, I look like. I just cut weight. I looked like. I was like, I'm sure. Yeah, it was. It was horrible. But it was. It was like. I wasn't shredder nothing. I just had no muscle definition, and it was just. It was bad, bro. And I remember when I first got out, man, I was like, thinking, like, all right, I tried. Like, when I got out, I hit the. Like, I got out ready to just, like, all right, I'm getting my life back. I'm. I'm gonna train my ass off, bro. I was so out of shape. I was so out of shape, bro. And I was, like, really discouraged at the time, you know? I was like, dude, I don't know. I think my career is over, dude. I don't know how much. How am I gonna come back from this, you know? I was so out of shape.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's crazy because you're working out so much in jail.

[D Rod]

Yeah. But it was just because of. Of the lack of nutrition. Yeah, nutrition. I was, like, so malnourished.

[Joe Rogan]

Body was just destroyed.

[D Rod]

Yeah, it was horrible, bro. And I almost thought, like, dude, I can't do this anymore, dude. Like, I'm like, I'm not gonna. I think my career might be over, you know? And I was just in my head about it for a little bit. And then. And then, you know, like, I was like, nah, you know, I'm a soldier, dude. I. I could bounce back from this. And. And, you know, I just. I just really believed that through hard work, you know, I'll get back to. To my old self. And now I'm. I feel great, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

How long did it take before you start feeling normal?

[D Rod]

But I'm barely starting to feel, like, a hundred percent now.

[Joe Rogan]

Now?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And when did you get out?

[D Rod]

It's been almost two months.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow, that's not a lot of time. Yeah. And when is this. The fight is August 1st. Yeah.

[D Rod]

It's another.

[Joe Rogan]

Not two months. Yeah, that's good.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And I feel. I feel good now.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy, though. It takes you two months, and then now you're back. You look normal, like, physically. Yeah, you look healthy. So it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle toned back and all that. That's a good thing, though, that you were always in shape, so you bounce back quicker. You have muscle memory.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And actually, I've honestly been enjoying the process, this whole process of. Of, like, when I first got out, I could only run, like, a mile, and I was dying, bro. And through. Through each run, I could see my progress. I'm like, okay, I'm getting better. Okay, I'm getting better. And. And like, I'm in love with it right now. I'm in love with. Look, getting better and better and better. 1% every single day. You know, I truly believe. Believed that through the work and. And to trust the work that I have ahead of me. And I honestly think that by the time the fight gets here, I'm gonna be perfect. Peak shape.

[Joe Rogan]

That's awesome. Yeah. What a crazy comeback story.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know? Yeah.

[D Rod]

And. And it's. It's really just like a. A really deep personal one for me because from what. Where. When I. When I first got out to now, it's just like. It's. It's crazy. It's crazy how. How I could. The body can bounce back and, like, just get back into shape, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's crazy. The mind too. I mean, you must be so thankful just every time you're training. Yeah. You might be tired, but, man, you must be so thankful that you're out and free and then you're working towards something big, you know, you got a big fight coming up, and what a blessing.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. And I'm just. I'm just embracing the whole process, you know? And I'm just, you know, I'm all for it. I'm all in. Actually going to. To jail and going through all that actually made. Made me appreciate and value everything that I have going on right now. So. So I'm just, like, so grateful and so thankful that I even have this opportunity. And I just signed a new contract with the ufc. Six more fights.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice.

[D Rod]

And. And now I'm. I'm main event. It's just crazy, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude, if you go on to win the title from here, how crazy would that be? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that would be crazy. And, you know, you beat medic, you're in the top 13. You're close to the top 10. Few fights later, anything can happen in this. Yeah.

[D Rod]

And I would even tell dudes like that. Like, realistically, bro, like, I can, like, four or five fights go, like four or five fights. I could be fighting for a championship, you know, maybe in this sport.

[Joe Rogan]

All it takes is a few spectacular results. A few spectacular results, and people get behind you and the crowd gets behind you. And next thing you know.

[D Rod]

Yeah. I mean, if I go out there and smoke this guy, and it's gonna be. It's gonna be so much even bigger just because of the whole experience that I went through. And, like, man, he got out of jail and just knocked this dude out. And, you know, why not? Like, why. Why not, bro? You know, why. Why can't I be that guy? Like, you hear stories all the time of. Of these incredible stories of people that become champions from nothing and been through all kinds of stuff. Like, why not me, bro?

[Joe Rogan]

Listen, you never know. You never know. That's the crazy thing about this sport.

[D Rod]

Yeah. You know, anything can happen, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, you got Makachev as the title holder, which is, you know, one of the baddest to ever do it. That's part of the problem.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, he's got the opposite life. That's a guy that's been disciplined and training his entire life. You know, it's never, never around. No drugs, no drinking, no nothing. Just discipline.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's tough sell.

[D Rod]

It's different. Different levels, man. Yeah, there's different levels to it.

[Joe Rogan]

How old are you now?

[D Rod]

39.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. So that's.

[D Rod]

I got, like, a couple more years left, man.

[Joe Rogan]

So that's why it's crazy. While they stole eight months of, like, very valuable time.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And that's what. That's one thing. That. That's one. The number one thing that I was like, man, like, I'm running out of time, bro. You know, I don't got, yeah, I don't got a lot of time left, you know, so getting out and like I said, like, I'm just, I'm just taking it a lot more serious, you know, I'm sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Where are you training now?

[D Rod]

So right now I'm in, I'm in Vegas training over at the PI at Extreme.

[Joe Rogan]

That's great.

[D Rod]

At Extreme Couture and right now and Freestyle MMA while I'm in Vegas and while I'm in California, I go to classic Classic fight team training at, over at Tanori and 10 Planet, you know, so I'm just. But right now, I'm in Vegas right now. So much, so much easier. LA is crazy, dude. I'm on the road. When I'm in la, it's just, I'm on the road all day. LA traffic is just a nightmare. So that's why like I'm in Vegas right now because everything's so close together and so convenient and, and it's also so high level.

[Joe Rogan]

There's so much high level training in Vegas.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And the PI is an amazing resource for fighters. You know, as far as nutrition, cutting weight. I mean, they'll get your meals for you, they get your supplements for you, they make sure that everything is, you know, safe for sport approved so you don't have to worry about testing positive for anything. Like the PI is amazing.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Such an incredible resource.

[D Rod]

Right now it's a little bit crazy because they're, they're, they're letting like the slap fight guys go there and the Zufo boxing guys, I think. Yeah, so yeah, those guys are, are using the slap.

[Joe Rogan]

Like guys train.

[D Rod]

I don't know how they trade. Like, how do you, how do you train for that, bro? You know, they do neck workouts.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know, I guess that's it. Yeah, right, the swinging things with your arms. Yeah, you know, I guess like cable machines, like, you know what I'm saying? Like get a cable on your wrist and do this a bunch of times.

[D Rod]

Yeah. So they have, at the PI they have like this, like this thing that gauges your, your power and your strike and those, they use that, they use that all the time.

[Joe Rogan]

The power slap guys do. Oh, that's so silly.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And, and then also the Zufa boxing guys are there too, so. So it's a little, it's a little bit hectic right now. It's like a lot going on.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I could imagine.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Power slap guys, that's a different thing.

[D Rod]

I'VE never been to one of those. I hear you have to go to one to, like, enjoy it.

[Joe Rogan]

You have to be on acid.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

To me, it's like, I don't know, man. I feel. I feel like letting someone just swing on you. And the thing is, like, if you get the first swing, you have a giant advantage.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The first swing is a crazy advantage.

[D Rod]

That's dangerous, bro. That's. Yeah, just getting, you know, just getting whacked. In some of these guys, they get knocked out. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, 100%, man. It's not less powerful than a punch. You know, this is the idea that you're slapping like this. That's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Right on your fucking jaw.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's super powerful. You can only take so many of those in your whole life, you know, and you're lining up for those.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And I mean, you can imagine like the nerve damage on your face, too.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I mean, look, I'm for whatever you want to do. You want to jump BMX bikes, you want to ride bulls, you want a power slap, have at it. This is America. Have a good time. Yeah, but it seems like at an MMA gym, it should be MMA fighters. I don't. I mean, the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like you could probably get some good work with some of those guys. Yeah. You know, and also seeing high level boxer train is good. It's great for your technique. It's great for just raising the level up in the gym.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's, it's really dope. I love, I love the PI man and Vegas in general. Like, there's so many killers out there,

[Joe Rogan]

you know, it's one of the best places in the world for MMA training. I mean, you got Extreme co Tour. Think of how many killers are training out of there. You know, you got, there's so many. You got syndicate. There's so many places, man.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's incredible. So much Jiu jitsu, Robin Drysdale's there. There's so many guys that are there. 10th planet there. There's so much Jiu jitsu there. There's so much MMA there. I mean, if you're a fighter, it's like one of the best places to live. Yeah.

[D Rod]

I remember when I first, when I first went out there, I was in about 2020, I went out. I was, I was on Cowboys Camp and he went out there and. And that's when I saw firsthand all the, all the, the amenities from the PI and like all the. The whole Vegas experience. And so I decided to move out there. So I lived out there for like two years and. And I've just been going back and forth ever since.

[Joe Rogan]

It's worth living there just for the PI.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, and then there's so much Muay Thai there. There's so much everything. There's so much great training there.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, there's. There's a ton of. There's a ton of gyms like you said, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It might not. There might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas in that regard.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Think about boxing. You got Floyd Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms there. You got high level boxers there. You got high level Muay Thai guys there. You know, One Kick Nick has his place there. There's so much high level training in Vegas. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. Summer is great, isn't it? It's the perfect season for adventures, but it can also be pretty exhausting juggling chaotic schedules and trying to make the most of summer. That's why it's important to take a moment for you. Go out for a weekend without planning anything and just have fun or relax at home or if you're really struggling, try therapy with BetterHelp. With a network of over 30,000 quality therapists, they can connect you with the right one, just like they have for millions already across the globe. Together, you could work out what you need and how you can enjoy summer to the fullest. You don't have to say yes to everything. This summer, find support in therapy. Sign up and get 10 off at betterhelp.com jre that's better. H E L p.com/jre yeah, sometimes I

[D Rod]

even go to the Andrew Kawani's gym.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh yeah?

[D Rod]

Yeah. Anthony and Chidi, they have their own gym. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, well, they, they were with One Kick Nick, right?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Crazy town.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Training. And again, like, I can't say enough. Like every time. I've been to the P.I. a bunch of times, but when I first went there before they were really open, when they were really getting rolling, I was like, this is incredible. Like, if you're a fighter, you have a place that has all the recovery stuff, all the, like the high end, top notch recovery stuff, cold plunge, saunas, all the, all the everything. Like all physical therapy supplements. They. When that. When I found out they make food for you, I was like, this is crazy.

[D Rod]

Yeah, I love that part. I love I'm always. I'm always there. You know, you could go there, order whatever you want, you know, and just like, sure, steak and. Steak and rice, you know.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, they just want you to be healthy, which is. Makes sense. Just. It's so smart that they did that. When they did that, I was like, what are they doing dumping all this money in that? Who's gonna go there? And then when I went there, I was like, oh, I get it. They went all out. They went all out. And it's just, if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the ufc, what better way than provide the best world class facility on earth?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then to put it right there in Vegas. And now they have a bunch of them. Right? They have one in Mexico. They have one. I think they have one in Singapore. Yeah, they have a bunch of them. It's awesome. So smart. Such a smart move to do. You know what would have been crazy if you were on the White House card?

[D Rod]

You got really, dude, that's gonna be major. Dude, that's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Major. I wish it was inside, but it is gonna be crazy. It's so funny watching people lose their mind over it, you know, in all sorts of different ways.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation in this country. Lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money. Why they spending so much money? This country's in debt, we got problems. Why are we having a fight? And then other people are like, yeah, you know, I mean, there's no more American thing than having a UFC fight on the White House lawn. It's so America. It's so. It's so Trump. It's so crazy. You know what I mean? A UFC fight on the White House lawn is bananas.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Man. Even the fight car is amazing as well.

[Joe Rogan]

Fight card's incredible. The only thing that bothers me is that it's outside.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That these guys are. They're fighting for world titles. I mean, Ilya Toporia might be. Is not just one of the best right now, he might be one of the best that ever did it. It's very possible that he goes down in history as the all timer. I mean, he's. He's so good. And for him to have to defend his title, the world title, outside with bugs and humidity and heat. Yeah.

[D Rod]

You got to take into account the weather, you know, it's a whole different environment.

[Joe Rogan]

It could rain, it could thunderstorm, who knows? It's dc, it's the East Coast. In the middle of the summer. I mean, it's. It's crazy to have a fight outside in June in D.C. yeah, I've.

[D Rod]

I've fought outside before. It's. It's definitely a different. Different vibe, different energy.

[Joe Rogan]

Where'd you fight outside?

[D Rod]

I fought outside for Combata Americas. It was somewhere in Arizona and it was a night time.

[Joe Rogan]

That's Camel McLaren's organization. Yeah. Yeah, Love that, dude.

[D Rod]

I've also fought in the summer in the daytime, and I had a fair.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

In California.

[D Rod]

In California.

[Joe Rogan]

What was the temperature?

[D Rod]

It was hot as hell, dude. The mat was hot as hell. It was like, at a fair in the middle of the summer.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that sucks. The mattress hot. I didn't think of that.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Was it canvas or was it, like, matte?

[D Rod]

I think it was matte.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, Jesus.

[D Rod]

Yeah, it was.

[Joe Rogan]

It was so. Not just that, but it gets slippery as fuck too, then.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude, it was hot as hell, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you ever see King of the Cage? Wet and wild. You ever see that?

[D Rod]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

King of the Cage put on a fight in the middle of a rainstorm and just let people fight. Just like, I think they just said, look, you know, if you want to fight, you get paid. This is it. It's gonna rain out and we're gonna have to fight because it was outside. Yeah. So this is back when California did not have mma. It was illegal, but it was legal on Indian reservations. So we would go to these Indian reservations for King of the Cage. So back when Eddie. I think Eddie was the commentator at that event. I'm not sure, but he was one of the main commentators at King of the Cage. And my friend Bud, who's my neighbor back in California, actually sold him my old house. Real good friend of mine, he was one of the owners of King of the Cage, and they were just putting on these events in these Indian reservations when it was totally illegal in California. So we would just drive to the Indian reservations and watch. And one of them, it poured. I mean, it was outside. The whole thing was outside. They just set up a cage outside and it's pouring, dude. And these guys are slipping all over the place, and it's crazy. They're fighting with wrestling shoes on. And it was just. Some of them did at least. And it's ridiculous. Like, there's no way you should fight like this.

[D Rod]

Yeah, my. My.

[Joe Rogan]

Actually.

[D Rod]

Actually my pro debut was for King of the Cage outside on Indian Reservation.

[Joe Rogan]

What year was this?

[D Rod]

I want to say 20, 2017, maybe 28.

[Joe Rogan]

So they were still doing Them outside even then.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[D Rod]

At Seboba Casino.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where we went. Yeah. See if you could find the King of the Cage footage for Wet N Wild. It was looking for it one of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life. I'm just. Imagine you're basically fighting on ice. You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look. They're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, what are you going to do? You're not going to dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this, but they were trying to at least give them some sort of, like, not sopping wet environment.

[D Rod]

Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on. Oh, look at. They're slipping.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on because I don't remember what year this was.

[Jamie]

The ref with the poncho is kind of funny.

[D Rod]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy. All the officials have ponchos. I mean, it's pouring right now. I don't remember what year it was.

[Jamie]

It's. I think it said it right there. 2001, I think.

[Joe Rogan]

Ah, okay, that makes sense. So that. I think that's illegal days. I'm not 99 sure that's the illegal days. Of course it is, because they're wearing shoes. But it was. The whole event was just insane. And imagine, like, trying to get a submission on someone who's literally soaking wet.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, it's impossible. It's. It's so crazy. But, I mean, these must be. So remember this forever, this event. Like, everybody was there. You see the water?

[D Rod]

Oh, it's pouring.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, why are they pouring? But why are they bothering, like, sweeping the water off. You're not going to dry it out. And look at his feet, man, his feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on. It's crazy. In a situation like that, you're almost, like, better off, like, immediately going to the ground. But even then, like, how are you gonna even get a choke? People are still. Everyone would slide out of everything. It's like fighting someone who's oiled up. Look at just drying them off. That's crazy. Yeah.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But this White House one, I just. I just hope it doesn't rain. I hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs, too. I've been investigating online. There's a bunch of different machines that they sell for, like, outdoor events. And These. They kill every bug within, like a mile radius. They set these things up, and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped at the end of it. They dump it out. There's like a. Like a big bag of bugs. So if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter, maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there. Because you have. In the D.C. area, you have a lot of gnats. Imagine fighting and you got a nat in your eye. You know, you're in the middle, moving around. Something goes in your mouth, you know.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Is there a lot of them out there?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's moist. That's the thing about D.C. it's humid. That's a humid environment, especially in the summer. And Jamie and I checked. Was it 100 degrees there?

[Jamie]

Yeah, it's current. I mean, we're getting closer to the dates. The forecast is getting better. It's currently set to be a high of 85, lowest 60.

[D Rod]

69.

[Joe Rogan]

69 is nice.

[Jamie]

No rain and well, isolated thunderstorms the two days before. That doesn't. I mean, who knows what.

[Joe Rogan]

That doesn't mean anything. By the time it gets to June.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And what is it? June 11th. What is it?

[Jamie]

So it's on the 14th.

[Joe Rogan]

14th.

[Jamie]

12th and 13th. Both have isolated thunderstorms.

[Joe Rogan]

12th and 13th. And it's on the 14th.

[Jamie]

Oh, and the one on Friday, it says considerable cloudiness and fog after midnight. I think the. The fights would be over by then, probably, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the fights are Sunday.

[Jamie]

Right. I'm just saying, like, that means at night it's getting.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, the thing is, if it's the low 69, that's nice. So if it cools off by the time the main event starts or the. The last few fights, but the first few guys that get after it, they're gonna probably be fighting in the daytime.

[D Rod]

Yeah. You know, you never know. They might just spray some chemtrails and change the weather, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they might.

[D Rod]

You never know.

[Joe Rogan]

O. What he's going to do it. It's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posted? He's got like this whole drone army on the roof of the ballroom now.

[D Rod]

Oh, no, I didn't.

[Joe Rogan]

So, you know, they built what's up.

[Jamie]

It will. It's not done yet.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it's not?

[Jamie]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, well, he show posted pictures of the AI. Yeah. Well, not.

[Jamie]

I mean, it's just a rendering, I would say.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. That's all it is.

[D Rod]

Oh.

[Joe Rogan]

How far along is the ballroom?

[Jamie]

I think

[D Rod]

pretty Far.

[Jamie]

I'm gonna show you the picture that they posted, but it's not. It's like a rendering of what it will.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's fake.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. Why would you tell people what you're gonna do?

[Jamie]

Well, I can be able to see that. They can't hide it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's not what I saw. I saw one that looked like it was during the daytime. Yeah, obviously, that's. Yeah, that's what I saw. That's the one I saw. So that's what it's gonna look like.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Drones are crazy, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Drones fighting missiles and guns flying around on the top, all controlled by AI.

[D Rod]

That's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

What could go wrong?

[D Rod]

War. War is a whole. Nother whole thing these days.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah, it's spooky. You ever seen some of that footage from Ukraine?

[D Rod]

Yeah. Drones just flying around, bombing dudes just

[Joe Rogan]

bombing dudes just dropping down on guys and exploding. And this. Hundreds of those videos now. You get a. One of those Instagram algorithms. We watch a couple of them, and then next thing you know, they're getting recommended to you over and over.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Dude, that's crazy.

[Jamie]

Two weeks ago, the bar.

[D Rod]

You know, one day I'm talking. Talking about something with my buddy. Next thing you know, it's all over my phone, my feed. I know. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's weird. We're just accepting the fact that our phone's listening to us all the time.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know what I got trapped in recently? Algorithm of schizophrenic people.

[Jamie]

What does that mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Dude, it's all crazy people that. Like, one guy is like, hi, I'm Joseph Wilson. I am the legitimate President of the United States due to constitutional reckoning. Like, crazy stuff. Like, crazy people. This one lady. This one lady is crazy. She's like. I forget what famous actor she was saying, they're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina. And, like, she's just completely insane. And every day it's like some new accusation. Someone's after her. Someone's tapping their phone. Someone's communicating with her through her ceiling fan. Like, yeah, just. But I don't know how Instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic and keeps sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again. Because I know, right?

[Jamie]

Well, you're. If you're watching them, you're at things, you want to keep watching.

[Joe Rogan]

I understand, but how does it know who's schizophrenic?

[Jamie]

It must. There's got to be. There's and there's internal tags on every post.

[D Rod]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

But in that nut.

[Jamie]

I don't know how it's.

[D Rod]

What.

[Jamie]

Yeah, how schizo got in there.

[Joe Rogan]

But it is.

[Jamie]

Or whatever the word is.

[Joe Rogan]

It's using the. Yeah, I don't know what the word is, but it knows these people are fucked up. And so it's sending me all these crazy people, like, completely insane people. One lady who thinks everybody's a man, she thinks Rosa park secretly a man. Everyone's secretly a man. She's like, pointing out, like, collarbones. Look at them. Look at. This is a man. Kim Kardashian's a man. Everybody's a man. It's nuts, man. And it's just schizophrenic people. And I'm like, okay, so Instagram must know these people are schizophrenic because they're all like. I'm telling you, it's like 3 out of 10 videos Instagram recommends me are Insta or people that are completely crazy. So it must know these people are crazy, and it's just sending them my way.

[D Rod]

Yeah, same for me, dude. I was. I was talking with my buddies. I don't know, something about, like, sardines or something. Next thing you know, I'm like, look at my phone. I'm like, dude, what the hell is all this shit about sardines? Experience a membership that backs your business journey with American Express business Platinum. Earn 5 times Membership Rewards points on flights in prepaid hotels booked on amextravel.com/apply to find out your welcome offer, which could be as high as 300,000 Membership Rewards points. American American Express Business Platinum. There's nothing like it. Terms apply, welcome offers vary, and you may not be eligible for an offer. Learn more@american express.com business-platinum back to back. It's crazy, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

It's creepy how the ads target you.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Which means brainwashing me into brainwashing me to buying sardine.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's like, how much is it listening? Did you see that post? I'll send it to you. Jamie, that Kim.com posted about Palantir. Did you see that?

[Jamie]

It's from February, where they got hacked, apparently.

[D Rod]

Maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that what it is?

[Jamie]

Yeah, that's what it said. We probably saw the same one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I'm sure it's very recently that I saw it. I didn't check the date on it, though. I could send it to you. Yeah, I got.

[Jamie]

I think it's good. Yeah, it's from February 16th.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, that's it. That's the one showing up right here though. Let me send to you.

[Jamie]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I just had was like a Russian website.

[Joe Rogan]

Click this, no problems. Definitely. There's another one like Brittany Griner. That poor lady.

[D Rod]

Oh yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

She did nine months. They. They wanted to put her away forever. Yeah, they were.

[D Rod]

They were like exchange, like some Russian arms dealer or something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

A merchant of death. Guys responsible for thousands of people being dead. So this is from Kim Dotcom. Palantir was allegedly hacked. Rather an AI agent was used to gain super user access. And here's what the hackers allegedly found. Peter Thiel and Alice Karp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale, massive scale. They have thousands of hours of transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J.D. vance and Elon Musk. They have backdoored the devices, cars and jets of world leaders and accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bioweapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away. They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations. Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA and all data from international clients is copied into a. So the problem is this is like alleged. Is there a Community Notes on this at all?

[Jamie]

No, really, just Kurt Metzger.

[Joe Rogan]

He's the number one post. When can we see these hacked materials though? What are the hackers doing with it? If they aren't exposing the whole thing, then them.

[Jamie]

Yeah, they only.

[D Rod]

He.

[Joe Rogan]

How does I know? Community knows.

[Jamie]

He posts a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not true. Yeah, predictions.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you know his background? Do you know the story behind that guy?

[Jamie]

May or.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. So his back. I first found out about him a long time ago. He's a very wealthy guy. He lives in New Zealand and he ran a site. Was it super uploader?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like one of those uploads. Mega upload. I think that's what it was. At it. And they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material. And I think they were trying to. They were trying to. They were trying to get him out of the country.

[Jamie]

Extradited on. I think they still wanted to come back.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Fraud charges. Related. It's on the screen to make upload. He denies wrongdoing.

[Joe Rogan]

Accused US authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood studios. 2018 New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower court's ruling. Dot com appealed to the Supreme Court of New Zealand which ruled in 2020 that.com could be extrad to the United States but that he could challenge the decision through judicial review. His extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024. He's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order. He launched another. He launched another cloud storage service called Mega, although he severed all in 2013, severed all ties with the service in 2015. He also started and funded the Internet party. The party contested in the 2014 New Zealand General election under an electoral alliance with the mana movement and contested the 2017 general election independently but failed to win any seats at either election. He was a famous guy in the early days of the Internet. Did you ever see those videos that he made? Like these cartoons?

[Jamie]

Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember. I. I don't.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons.

[Jamie]

What did he call Internet party? Moment of truth. Extradition.

[Joe Rogan]

See if you can find kim.com early animated videos.

[Jamie]

Big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here.

[Joe Rogan]

He should be. The Seth Rich one is wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just. I don't understand why anybody isn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he supposedly gave WikiLeaks all sorts of inside information on the Democratic party about how they kept people out of the election, how they were running things, and then he winds up getting whacked. And they're like, no, it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning. They left his watch, they left his wallet, they left everything. His phone. They just killed him. See if you can find his videos. He has some crazy videos. I want to say these are from like the 90s, like late 90s or early 2000s. He was. That he. I don't remember. I don't even know what he was doing. But he was very wealthy. He had this crazy house and his hot wife. He. He would show videos of it and. And I think this guy's just been persecuted because of that site that he had. And he's. Now they just keep going after him. I don't know if he's right about this Palantir stuff, so I probably shouldn't have been saying it, but. But you do know that like in worst case scenario a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time. Everyone's online.

[D Rod]

Yeah, I mean, they can.

[Joe Rogan]

They can see you now with WI fi. They know where you are in a building at any given time with the WI fi in the building.

[D Rod]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Crazy. They use WI fi and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house. They know where you are at any given time because of the WI fi. So if they tap into your WI fi, they know where you are. This boom. This targeted strike and the upper right

[D Rod]

bedroom hit a drone after you.

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy. It's really nuts, man, because this is. This wasn't here. It is.

[Jamie]

This is from like. This is some old Internet stuff. This is a flash.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

90s flash video.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, this is it. Give me some volume.

[Jamie]

Surprise that even has sound. It's gonna be a very crude sound.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, this is what he did. I remember this. So this is the 90s. So this is the same guy. It's a very interesting guy. He's getting in a boat.

[Jamie]

Yeah, it's called Kim Kimball, Special Agent. Yeah, it was made in the 90s. This is 30 years ago. He's, you know, screwing around with Internet graphics and

[Joe Rogan]

catches a helicopter. He lands on the ground. He's standing on top of Microsoft. What is he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back then. That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates. What the. It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill him. Just wrote Linux around him.

[D Rod]

So he got in trouble for these?

[Joe Rogan]

Nah, no, no, not really. I mean, I think people just thought those were silly. He got in trouble for that Mega Upload site. So this, the way it used to work is. You remember. Do you remember Napster?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

So Napster worked where you could take songs, you could upload them, and anybody could download these songs. The way Mega Upload worked and a lot of these upload sites is you could take a film and you could turn it into a digital file and say you take like avatar, turn into a digital file and upload it. And people could then download it and watch it on their home entertainment system through the Internet. Just download the file, plug in HDMI cord from a computer into the tv and boom, you're watching movies.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And you don't have to pay anything. And the thing was, it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material. And I think his argument was like, yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm just. I'm hosting this service and they're like, well, this service is used to do illegal things, so you're in trouble. So it's like. I don't know what the argument is there. I don't know who's right. Do you understand it, Jamie?

[Jamie]

Yeah, you explained it. But, I mean, it's a. Most people would go like, copyright law. American copyright law only matters in America. And I don't know if that's the

[Joe Rogan]

argument he was making, but that's true, too. Right. Because he's in New Zealand.

[Jamie]

And this host. This site was hosted in Hong Kong. Yes. On January 20, 2012 days. Seized more than $300 million of his Hong Kong money. Is $40 million in American money.

[Joe Rogan]

Damn, son.

[Jamie]

He denied any wrongdoing.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder how he's earning money now. I wonder if they took all his money or.

[Jamie]

I mean, he did. They did that. I just looked it up. Mega is like a cloud service website now. I don't know if he owns it or runs it. He's trying to do cryptocurrency stuff. I'm sure he was big into Bitcoin when it started. He's probably doing okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I don't know what the story is, but I'm kind of rooting for him.

[Jamie]

He's a fun character online.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, he's very fun online. I don't know if he's right about the Palantir stuff, but forget about Palantir. We know that what's happening now in terms of you talking into your phone about sardines and then your phone showing you ads like, there's. They're definitely listening to something. It's unverified, just as of February. Oh, so this was Grok commented on it. Kim Dotcom's claims about a Palantir hack and related allegations remain unverified. Major outlets like Reuters, BBC and New York Times show no coverage. Palantir's site has no statements. Some sources echo the Post, but no independent evidence confirms it. Right. But you got to think, if you know a dude who's deeply connected into the hacker world, it's that guy, right?

[Jamie]

Like, yeah, I think he's the most public one.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. He'd be the guy that would know some. I wouldn't be surprised.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

If it's not Palantir, and I'm not accusing Palantir of anything, but there's got to be at least one point in time there's going to be a corporation that has the power to do those things, and that's what's going on with all this surveillance that people are missing.

[D Rod]

I'M sure. I'm sure there already is. You know, they're already doing that, you know. Yeah. I mean, 100.

[Joe Rogan]

If I was an evil person, running some actors, a corporation, I would do it some. Especially if I thought it was right.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Doing the right thing.

[D Rod]

I can imagine. Like, China probably has.

[Joe Rogan]

Of course.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

A hundred percent.

[D Rod]

Also, I forgot what I was reading, that someone got arrested, I think, like, some government officials, and then got arrested and admitted to being a spy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[D Rod]

China.

[Joe Rogan]

Well. Yeah. Well, there was a mayor in California, in Arcadia, California.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Spy for China. She was a mayor. The mayor of a city was working for China.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And admitted it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[D Rod]

It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, China's playing a long game. They. They infiltrate universities, they give money to universities, they. They fund programs, they give money to research labs, they sell cell phone towers at a discounted rate to the military, and these dumb motherfuckers put them around where their military bases are.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I've had guys that are, you know, CIA guys on the podcast tell me about that, how dangerous it is that they've. They bought farmland all around these military bases. China has.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What's up? You say something? I thought you said something. Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy that they are even allowed to do that. Like, you imagine you. You're in conflict with another country and they buy land right next to your house. You're like, hey, yeah, what are you doing? Forget about your house. A military base. Anybody buying any land around a military base should be thoroughly vetted. It should be. There should be different laws. If you want to buy land around a military base, it should be like, no, you know.

[D Rod]

Yeah, background check for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

Not just background check. Like, you should be American citizen, a. And you should have, like, a legitimate, verifiable reason for owning this land. Like, you're a farmer or you can put fucking windmills up there. Whatever you're going to do, it should make sense. It shouldn't be, like, all you have to do is have the money and you could buy land right next to a military base.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Where they're doing who knows what.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And, you know, China has, like, some of the top. Top. You know, some of the. The. Like, you never know what they're wanting. Yeah. The technology.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, their technology is off the charts. Their. Their drone technologies beyond ours. And they. They have, like, crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons.

[D Rod]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Fly them over the sky, like thousands and thousands of drones, and they make a dancing dragon in the sky. Like, whoa. So they're all coordinated, but some sort of a computer program, and they all work autonomously. It's nuts, man. Like, their technology, their cars are insane. China's cars, they have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in America.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And they can't sell them here, which I think is kind of crazy. I think that's kind of. It's kind of. I mean, I guess we're in competition with China, but, like, it should be survival of the fittest when it comes to cars. Like, if you're making the best cars and you happen to be in China, they should be over here.

[Jamie]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

You know?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, it would suck if I was Ford and these Chinese cars were way better than anything that we're making here. But everybody that I've talked to, and I've talked to some guys that work for major automobile organizations and they went over to China and they're like, oh, my God. We're like, these cars are insane.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just Tesla alone. I know, I know it's not China, but I mean, those cars are insane. Yeah, they're pretty dope.

[Joe Rogan]

But they make them here and they make them in China, too. They made a lot. They were making a lot of them in China during the pandemic. Because the pandemic didn't really close things down in China the way it closed things down here. But they're. They have electric cars now that have, like, these insane suspensions. They go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds. They're nuts. Yeah, they. There's this dude that I follow online. God, what's his name? Forest Auto Reviews. Trying to remember. But he does these quick reviews and somehow or another he always gets these Chinese cars. I'll find his name, but he gets. You know. You know, but I was.

[Jamie]

I mean, I don't think this is his channel, but I'm looking at the Xiaomi SU7. I can find his video if you want me to.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. These cars are nuts, man.

[Jamie]

Looks like a Tesla, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, that's the dude. Yeah. What is his channel?

[Jamie]

This isn't his channel.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't think somebody else uploaded it.

[Jamie]

Maybe.

[D Rod]

I don't know, Maybe.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe somebody else uploaded it. I think it's the same guy. Let me find it.

[D Rod]

I think.

[Joe Rogan]

I think it's Forest Auto Review. No, that's not him. He's not that guy. Hold on.

[D Rod]

This guy?

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Forest Jones. That's it. So he keeps finding. He keeps reviewing these. Just. Good. Scroll down for his videos. Go to his video section.

[Jamie]

If you search, you can just narrow it down more. But it didn't really work one year ago. Tesla minivan or China minivans,

[Joe Rogan]

they have some crazy shit. Find a good one.

[Jamie]

I don't know if it's electric. It's just a luxury car though.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, this is it. This is electric. Look. Look at these things. They're nuts.

[D Rod]

With this gorgeous speaker. I also get two wireless charging pads with a fan to keep them cool. I have this gorgeous drive mode selector. I have cup holders right in here. And I have a dash cam that can do this. Oh, that's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

You also get selfies for the blicky. A big.

[D Rod]

I have built in fragrances. That slot in right here. If I push this button, I have more storage space. And I can do this. If I push the button on the side of my seat that'll fold down my armrest. My seats are heated, ventilated and massaged. I have an area right down here for my phone. Have built in sunscreen shades. If I push this button, my cup holder comes out and I can do this.

[Joe Rogan]

This is $37,000 and these cars are not available.

[D Rod]

No us that one's 37.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that one?

[Jamie]

I don't know.

[Joe Rogan]

No. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong video. That sounds like it would cost more than 30. It says luxury cars. What car is that? Does it say. Doesn't say in the description. No description has been added to this video. See, Go for the beginning. See what it says inside.

[D Rod]

I get a moonroof, pillows on my headrest. These heated ventilated and massages. I get a passenger screen.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. So they're doing wild over in China with technology and they have full surveillance on their population. You can't say over there.

[D Rod]

Yeah, they have like facial recognition. That's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, you can't step out of line at all. They'll make you turn you into a handbag. You don't around over there.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know they have. Do you know that bodies exhibit. Do you know what that is? Yeah, dead bodies exhibit.

[D Rod]

I think there's one in Vegas.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly. They get their bodies, most of them from China and they're. Yeah, they're. They're called like Chinese. I think it's undeclared bodies. So like if you die within a certain amount of time, if someone doesn't claim your body unclaimed bodies. If someone does not claim your body within like 30 days, they just can turn you into a statue.

[D Rod]

Wow.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, here's the problem with that. In order to do this process where they turn you into A statue, it has to take place within 48 hours of your death. So there's no way they're waiting a month.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So they have to start this process, like pretty soon after you die. And they have this process called plastination. And they take the bodies and they basically strip all the fat from the body and they turn it into this plasticized statue of all your muscles and tendons and ligaments. And so you're out there like playing basketball and like you could see like the rib cage and all the ligaments. That was a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing or he worked for a company and he up or he was banging someone's wife or he was doing something and they turned this dude into a statue and now he's at the Luxor in Vegas playing golf.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

For real. We looked into it and it's. There's not. Not just me saying this. There's a bunch of stories online about these different bodies and how they've found ones with bullet holes in them. They found one of them is crazy. So this lady was having an affair with a mayor in this town in China, and she was an online or a television broadcaster. She was like a news lady or something like that, and she was having an affair with the mayor. The wife finds out about it. The lady goes missing. She gets scrubbed from the Internet. Turns out the lady was pregnant. She was eight months pregnant. She goes missing. Then all of a sudden, this pregnant lady appears at the bodies exhibit with the baby inside of her. Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady, the wife of the mayor who she was having an affair with. The wife was the manager of the plastination factory where they turn everybody into statues.

[D Rod]

Damn. Damn. And. And these bodies, there's no skin on them.

[Joe Rogan]

No skin. It gets even crazier. Years later, she gets arrested for killing another person. She gets arrested for poisoning some English businessman. And then it goes to trial. Well, the person who stood trial for her, the person who stood was not her. There's pictures of the lady on the stand. It's a different lady. So she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail, like paid their family off or something like that, and she got free. So this is all alleged, by the way. Yeah, all alleged. But you could see the video or the body is still exhibited, the body of the pregnant lady. So there's a pregnant lady and you see a cross section of her stomach where she's like holding onto her stomach, and you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady with an eight month old fetus inside of her body, that they find it and then somehow or another they know it's cool. So you just turn it to a statue. But you have to do that within 48 hours of someone's death. But no one claimed it, which takes a month. None of it makes any sense. Yeah, the whole thing is nuts. Some of them are people that like, I'm gonna die. I want to donate my body to this exhibit. Okay, if you're crazy and that's what you want to do, that's cool. But that's not all those people. Some of those people are. It's very sketchy circumstances. See if you can find that image of the.

[D Rod]

I wonder how often or how many, how many times that happened. Like, because. Because wouldn't like the. The pregnant body. Like they never investigated it.

[Joe Rogan]

The family wanted to. The family wanted to investigate. Exactly. They were trying to do that, but they wouldn't let them do it. These people have like obviously have immense power. If she got someone, allegedly got someone to stand in line.

[D Rod]

And this is like in China.

[Joe Rogan]

So look at this. This is the baby, pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her. And so the family looked at the face and they're like, Jesus Christ. Oh, someone stole the fetus.

[Jamie]

Oh, also I was digging. There's another scandal that happened in 2024 with a bunch of corpses in China too.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, there's a video or this where this investigative reporter, this investigative reporter visited one of these plastination factories and there was bodies that were laying down. There's a video of. You could watch the video. These bodies are laying down. They have sheets over their head and they have their arms tied behind their back and the sheets are bloody. So it looks like they all got whacked and they're all at this plant getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as man this body was.

[Jamie]

They just stole the fetus. Two women in LA stole it.

[Joe Rogan]

Two women.

[Jamie]

This is 20 years ago.

[Joe Rogan]

They probably stuffed it inside of their belly.

[D Rod]

Look here, I'm pregnant.

[Joe Rogan]

It's probably on my Instagram algorithm right now.

[Jamie]

There's another scandal. They have over 4,000 bodies were in a ski. A corpse scheme. They said, oh my God, they were being sold. Families thought their body, their family members being cremated was not. They were being sold into. I was trying to find out what they were using.

[D Rod]

That's a lot of bodies.

[Joe Rogan]

Jesus, Christ.

[Jamie]

They were using them for bone grafting.

[D Rod]

Oh.

[Jamie]

Allergenic bone graft products.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh. That's another thing one of these schizophrenic ladies was telling me, and that is true, that a lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers. So they take fat from cadavers and then they inject that fat in their ass to give them a bbl. Like, no bullshit. And Whitney Cummings. I told. I sent it to Whitney. She's like, oh, my God, it's literal dead ass. That's such a funny line. Because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue. You're taking a dead person's fat and they're stuffing it in their ass Cadaver fat transfer utilizing processed human donor fat has become a major emerging alternative to traditional autologous fat transfers like traditional Brazilian butt lifts or bbls and synthetic implants. How does it work? Instead of harvesting fat from your own body via liposuction, surgeons use donated human fat harvested via authorized tissue banks. Allegedly. The fat is rigorously screened, sterilized, and processed to remove all the donor's DNA cells and genetic material. What remains is a structural. Clumpy butter.

[D Rod]

So hot.

[Joe Rogan]

Clumpy butter ass is so hot. Matrix of collagen proteins and growth factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate volume and also acts as a biological scaffold fold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it.

[D Rod]

Yeah, that's gross, bro. Dead ass.

[Joe Rogan]

Actual dead ass. And women are doing this how? See if you can find a video of them doing it.

[D Rod]

I was thinking, like, man, how'd you

[Jamie]

call it?

[Joe Rogan]

Filler. Oh, it's so nasty. That's so nasty. How about you just do some squats? You lazy. Yeah, but that's people, like a real ass anyway, the ass and the legs, it has to match, folks. Yeah, it has to match. Can't fake it. It's like, you ever see those dudes that they don't really have muscles, but they get oil injected into their arms

[D Rod]

and it's just like. It's all weird. Weird.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, it's almost like Indian dude. I saw this Brazilian dude, he had it on his biceps.

[D Rod]

Traps.

[Joe Rogan]

Traps. Giant trash. Giant crazy shoulders. Big, big tits. Crazy. And he's, like, flexing, doing all this stuff. But it looks weird because it's your body. It's like it doesn't fit. Yeah, it doesn't fit your body. That's the same thing. When a girl gets a crazy fat ass and she's got These toothpick legs because she's lazy. Yeah, like, that doesn't fit your legs.

[D Rod]

This is.

[Joe Rogan]

Looks like you're wearing a diaper. This is crazy. Don't do that.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Dude, come into the process.

[D Rod]

Women go to the extreme.

[Joe Rogan]

I know.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, the thing is, I think if you do just a little bit. Just a little bit of dead ass maybe. It's nice.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, I bet there's girls that have done it, that you go to the right doctor, like this Beverly Hills dude, he's like, I got you just enough. You're just gonna plump that sucker up just a little bit.

[D Rod]

Just a little bit. Little bit of dead ass.

[Joe Rogan]

Little bit of. Just a touch. Just a touch of dead ass.

[D Rod]

That's pretty gross. Like, for someone to put someone else's clumpy butter in.

[Joe Rogan]

It's fucking completely disgusting.

[D Rod]

How did your body even react to that? Or how to. Like.

[Joe Rogan]

Not well. Yeah, not well.

[D Rod]

And then to have all that take out the DNA and all this other stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

What if they don't? What if that's. What if the DNA is in there? What if you start getting weird memories, you know? Yeah, weird memories from ass tissue. Like weird nightmares.

[Jamie]

Photos here are rough.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's go. Well, pull them up right here.

[D Rod]

Oh.

[Jamie]

Elderly male. Fresh cadaver. Underwent a layered dissection.

[Joe Rogan]

So they're taking a fat from an elderly guy's face.

[D Rod]

Actual dead body.

[Joe Rogan]

Whoa.

[Jamie]

Does it matter where the fat comes from?

[Joe Rogan]

I guess not. I guess it's just fat. So this is a dead guy and they're peeling. So who sold his body to some laboratory?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Jamie]

Have the clumpy butter in this.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that in the upper right

[D Rod]

hand corner, a whole crazy like.

[Joe Rogan]

So this is pre dead ass and post dead ass.

[D Rod]

See, that's not bad.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not bad, but that lady could have done that with the gym. That lady could have done that. Which she didn't go crazy there. That's just a little dead ass. Just a. Just a touch. That probably looks good on the side if you turn it sideways. Is there any photos where they show this video?

[Jamie]

There says one shot cost 20 grand.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's see that guy. He looks like a demon.

[Jamie]

Well, these videos, that's not even a real estate.

[Joe Rogan]

That's AI.

[Jamie]

It follows down. Yeah, it falls down a weird, weird path here.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Jamie]

Yeah, I'm not showing those photos either. It's disgusting.

[Joe Rogan]

So they're just sucking fat out of dead people. I had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft on my acls. I got a. They use a. A Achilles tendon because the Achilles tendon's thicker and stronger than the actual acl, and they put it in my right knee. It's never been a problem. Holy Works great.

[D Rod]

Well, from. From your. From your own. From your own body?

[Joe Rogan]

No, no. From a dead dude.

[D Rod]

Oh, okay.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, what's that?

[Jamie]

That says gluteal augmentation. So that's butt. Right?

[D Rod]

Right.

[Jamie]

It says fat grafting. So that would be putting fat into the butt.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, where's that scar? Oh, bro, that scar is gigantic.

[Jamie]

You can have this kind of fork holding it open.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, look how green everything looks in there. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks like bad cheese, as discussed.

[D Rod]

Disgusting.

[Joe Rogan]

That looks like. You know when you go to see, like, dry. Dry aged meat and you pass by those. Yeah, nice daycast. Yeah, they have the dry, aged meat container. So you're gonna get your fat put in your ass or an implant, but then you have this massive scar.

[Jamie]

Boy, I mean, these pictures are gnarly. That is another head. Look at the ear right there.

[Joe Rogan]

So that's where they're getting the fat.

[Jamie]

How much fat do you have in your head?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection. So that's someone getting that done to their head.

[Jamie]

Maybe it's, like, tightening up the skin.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, maybe.

[D Rod]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

Like a filler.

[Jamie]

Oh, yeah, There you go. Look. Says here.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, she looks good. That actually looks good. So that's from her fat. Fat graph.

[Jamie]

Sorry, I can't show these photos, guys.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Jamie]

Google.

[Joe Rogan]

Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting, but if you look at, like, people's face when they get older, that's one of the things that happens, is you lose collagen and fat in your face. And that would. Does make sense that putting it in would be better. See, that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that. Go to the gym, lazy. What is that one to the right of it, though? That one to the right? Yeah, like there. So she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that. But again, go to the gym. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

[D Rod]

Yeah, look at the rest of the body.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, go to the gym. This is crazy.

[Jamie]

Questionable tattoo.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, questionable choices. You get dead ass. You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt so that more people want to fuck you. Like, hey, find Jesus. Go find Jesus. Okay, if you are out there, I don't give a lot of advice, but this is my advice. If you're out there and you're thinking about getting dead People's fat pumped into your ass. You probably need Jesus.

[D Rod]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, DBOs are kind of going out of style, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You know, I think people.

[D Rod]

Naturals are coming back.

[Joe Rogan]

They should.

[D Rod]

Naturals are making a comeback.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Just work out. Like there's a lot of ladies that had flat butts that they put in the time, they put in the effort, and now you're like, damn, you can do that too.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Anybody? It's just the process.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

People don't like that process.

[D Rod]

Want quick results.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[D Rod]

And they want to work for it.

[Joe Rogan]

They want Ozempic and then they want dead ass. They don't want to lose the weight.

[Jamie]

Like a nice combo they could put together now.

[D Rod]

Now they're saying.

[Jamie]

And then put it back where you want it.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Retrue. A tide. What is that called? Red. A true tide. Red, A true tide and dead ass. They should have like a one stop shop.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Now they're saying Ozempic eats up your bones. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, definitely.

[D Rod]

So everybody's. Everybody's who's been taking it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's not just that. It also kills your desire. This is what's weird. Like people are falling out of love when they get on Ozempic. Like they lose their desire.

[D Rod]

Really? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The people lose ambition, they lose desire. They also lose addiction. Like people that are addicted to cigarettes, people that are addicted to alcohol and gambling. Apparently Ozempic helps that because you're basically killing desire. Like your. Your desire to go and smoke a cigarette, your desire to have a drink.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Gets killed by Ozempic.

[D Rod]

Yeah. It also changes your whole face, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[D Rod]

Eats up all your. The fat problems. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That's a problem. Especially for ladies as they get older. Like the more fat you have on your face, the better you look. Like you. When your skin gets real thin and starts draping over your bones, you don't. That doesn't look healthy.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Looks like a problem.

[D Rod]

You like to cut. Did you cut weight?

[Joe Rogan]

I know. Yeah, it's. It's that that's a part of our society now and it's just preying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result. Because of all these ladies that wanted to do this. Instead, if they just went to a gym, started eating healthy, they would feel better, they would think better, their body would look better, everything would be better, and they wouldn't have to get dead ass.

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah. It's just people being really self conscious, you know, about Themselves. Like I know a hot, hot ass chicks that I'm like, wait, you take Ozempic? Why? Like why? Oh, just like a little, you know, I'm like, you don't need it.

[Joe Rogan]

I think some women say there's a real benefit to taking a micro dose after a certain age. I was watching a video, this lady is talking about how micro Dosing these GLP1s is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age because it helps reduce inflammation. It does a bunch of different things to them.

[D Rod]

But I don't know, do you gain the weight? Like say if, like there's people that just. I'm just gonna do it. Like, like really overweight people, they're just who obviously like have stroke, do struggle with diet and working out when, when they get off, do like they gain all the weight back like everything else.

[Joe Rogan]

Most likely, if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue is going to return.

[D Rod]

Because that like shrinks your stomach or something, right?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, well, it does, but it's basically you're starving yourself. Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheeseburger.

[D Rod]

Yeah, right.

[Joe Rogan]

It's because your stomach shrank because you weren't eating much. That's kind of the same thing that happens with Ozempic. I mean, what, what happens to them when people say, oh my God, it makes you lose bone mass, it makes you lose muscle mass. Right. But so does starving yourself. That's one of the things that happens when people, they go on these crash diets. They go, I'm just, I'm 30 pounds overweight, I'm just not gonna eat. Okay, well your body's gonna find food somewhere, so it's gonna eat itself. And yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also going to eat muscle tissue. It's also going to eat bone tissue. Your body's going to consume itself to survive, which is crazy. So these things that you're getting, these side effects of like bone loss and muscle loss, that's what would happen if you just stopped eating too. It's. Your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein, you weren't growing any muscles. Yeah, your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs, so it's just shrinking. So Red, a true tide is how you say it.

[Jamie]

I believe so.

[Joe Rogan]

So that the difference between this retatrutide, this one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss, but you don't lose the muscle loss. It's not the same thing.

[D Rod]

I want to show you a picture of what I look like, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, please do.

[D Rod]

It's horrible.

[Joe Rogan]

You got my number. Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie.

[D Rod]

All right. If it's shocking, bro, you're like, holy hell, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

If this Reddit 2 tide. Am I saying it right? Red. A true tide. Ratatou tide, whatever it is. This one they think is going to be incredible because this one is going to give you all the fat loss, but none of the muscle loss, none of the bone density loss. And I wonder if it's going to be the same for like desire and whether it's going to with addictions and all those other things too. Because I was reading this thing where employers are. They're getting upset at people taking GLP1s because it changes their ambition.

[Jamie]

I saw it too. I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it and I can't find it. And it's not that it is, but it makes me wonder if it's like, right, propaganda, propaganda against it from the people who are on like, you know, selling the good stuff now. They don't want them to. Don't get replaced.

[Joe Rogan]

It could put it into perplexity. See what AI, our AI sponsor, are people working? Yeah.

[Jamie]

Habits change.

[Joe Rogan]

Do employ. Are there employers who are having a problem with their employees taking GLP1s because it affects their work or ambition? I think what they were saying was ambition. It's making people less ambitious, which kind of makes sense because I think a lot of people, their ambition is probably an addiction. They're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things. Here it goes. Yes, but the main employer issues with GLP1s today are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity. Not a clearly documented widespread loss of work.

[Jamie]

Ambition be the same thing? Kind of, probably, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Productivity, sure, if you're not as ambitious. But attendance is. If unless you're injured, you're hurt.

[Jamie]

No, that's fine. Show up, you might like. I don't even feel like going.

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right. So side effects and performance. Common. Common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea plus headaches and fatigue can result in comfort increase absenteeism and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanaged legal and HR complexity. Employers must balance cost control with ada, HIPAA and non discrimination rules when deciding coverage. And when asked about employee medication use, evidence of motivation and ambition. There are anecdotal stories, media and personal accounts of People feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP1s. But these are not yet backed by large workplace specific studies. So employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue. But I bet they're thinking about it. Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it. I mean, it makes sense. Did you find it?

[D Rod]

I'm having a sense me her number.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What you looked like right when you got out.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. Dude, I can't find her. And I'm. I'm having someone send it to me, though.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, no worries.

[D Rod]

I'm kind of embarrassed to show you, but I gotta.

[Joe Rogan]

I gotta.

[D Rod]

I gotta see this. Because if you see me now, I'd be like, holy hell, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Crazy good. Before and after is great. Yeah. The people that are really brave are the ones that say, hey, I'm gonna get in shape. So here's what I look like right now. And they post out on the Internet, like, whoa, that's. That's crazy. Yeah.

[D Rod]

So.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's also. It's a good way to hold yourself accountable, you know?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

When a bunch of people to. On you fat. Like, fat shaming works. I know it's not nice. People don't like it. But when someone calls you a fat and you're like, oh, man, you start thinking and you go to work.

[D Rod]

Yeah, Yeah. A little bit of hard work, you know? A little bit of hard work. Get it? You know?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, listen, if there's a way where massively obese people that are dying can get healthy, and if it's a GLP one, I'm all for it, but for everybody else, just get to work and you'll. You'll respect yourself so much better. Like right now, like, you. You could look in the mirror and go, damn, I look so much better than I did when I got out of jail. Yeah, because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way. Right. If you got discouraged when you were saying, like, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do this. I have no endurance. I don't know if it's ever gonna come back. A lot of people would have just quit right there.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And if you quit right there, you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going. And that's the. That's the case with everybody that's at a bad place right now. Just go to work. Go to work. Write it down. Go to work. Put it together.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And, yeah, man, I think it just makes you that much, like, stronger and, and like, aside from the work, but like, in. Internally, 100, you know, makes you value yourself so much more and health.

[Joe Rogan]

Absolutely. You know, it's also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things. If you get through something difficult, you realize, like, oh, I've been here. But, like, the next time some up happens to you, like, I've been here before. I know it sucks right now, but I'm gonna just trust this process exactly. Keep on trucking.

[D Rod]

So right when I. When I got back to work, and I was like, man, I'm. I'm in the phase right now where it. It sucks, you know, like, waking up sore as hell. I remember the first time I did leg day, I couldn't. I couldn't even walk, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you have somebody walking you through it? Like, how to do it correctly where you don't overdo it in the beginning? Because, like, did you work with a trainer or anybody?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, like, over at the PI So when we first got started, we obviously didn't want to, like, because I was so eager to just get back in shape, and it was. It was tough, you know, but that's like one of the things that. That, like, while running, like, I love to run, and it's like one of those things where, like, a lot of people, they reach to. With a point where they get tired, and then they just stop, you know, they'll just quit, you know? And, like, you got to push yourself more and more harder and more harder. Next thing you know, you catch a second wind, and, you know, you're. You're jamming. But when I first. First started, I swear, dude, like, I would, like, so when I first got out, my. My oldest son, he wrestles for high school, and he was like, oh, you want to wrestle? You know? You want to wrestle? Because he's like, you know, he knew I was out of shape. I'm like, oh, man, he might, like, you might get me, you know? So in my mind, I'm like, all right, I got one good. One good takedown in me. And.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[D Rod]

And. And, yeah, sure enough, we wrestled and then shot for that takedown, Got the takedown and got up, and I'm just like, whoa, Whoa. And, like, he just ragdolled me after that. You just rag dog me, man. And then actually, a couple days ago, I got back from Vegas and. And I hit him up. I was like, what's up now? You know, like, what's up now? And. And, yeah, man, From. From that first. That. From that first workout to this one, you know, we Made it through a whole, a whole workout. You know, it's such a good feeling because I got really, like, really discouraged, bro. I'm not even gonna lie. And it was points where I was like, got real emotional. I was like, dude, how am I this tired? Like, just, this is crazy, you know? And then I just always told myself like, dude, you've made it through so much in your life that you could come back and you can bounce back for this. So that's. This whole, this whole process has been like, to me, it's just like a comeback. Comeback, comeback story, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Of course.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's just about trusting that process. It's just so hard when you used to be at one point and now you're way, way, way below that and you got to build back up to get to where it's you used to be, you know? But that's, that's kind of a blessing. There's a blessing in that because you realize like after it's over, it's like, wow, I did it. I did it. I pushed through all that. I got my body back in shape again. I'm back. Like, when you get done with your camp, when you're peing and on that last week, you're going to feel so good.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. Honestly, I feel great now and, and like I feel like I've, I've done such a great job and, and actually recovering more, doing like a lot more recovery stuff and I've been, I've been incorporated that so much and before I should just go, go and like now, like I take the time to recover and, and I've been, I've been taking this stuff from Regenerate.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that?

[D Rod]

Regenerate is like. And, and what is it? NAD or something like that?

[Joe Rogan]

Okay.

[D Rod]

Yeah, stuff like that.

[Joe Rogan]

And so it's nmn. So it's like a precursor to nad.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The US can find that stuff, provides it.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, so that means it's third party tested. Regenerate does that. Who, who makes that stuff? Do you know?

[D Rod]

I know, I know that they're. They're definitely UFC approved. Approved and like, I think they might even sponsor.

[Joe Rogan]

Thorne is the main supplement company that you. That the UFC uses, right? Yeah, because they're all third party tested. It's like safe for sport.

[D Rod]

Yeah, the. Yeah, it's true. SHIELD certified products for professional athletes. And yeah, I started, I started taking that like about two, two fights ago. And yeah, I feel great. I guess it's like nad like, like some kind of anti aging or something. Like that and stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it's. It basically lengthens your telomeres and it is. It sort of brings your body back to like a level of recovery that it had when it was younger.

[D Rod]

Allegedly.

[Joe Rogan]

There's a lot of. There's a lot of people that take IV nad and they take nad and you know, you can get it in the subject sub qtone. What's it called? Subcutaneous under the fat injections. They do it that way too.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah. But.

[Joe Rogan]

But I think some of the best ways is actually nmn that stuff because it. What it does is it. It's like a precursor and your body just makes more nad that way. Yeah, I take it. Yeah, yeah, it works. I take it. Before I go to bed every night. You know, Andrew Huberman was telling me about it. He was saying it. He noticed that when he really felt like it was working, one of the things that he noticed was that his fingernails were growing quicker. And that's the same thing with me. I texted him the other day. I go, this is crazy. Like, my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to. I think it's because of that.

[D Rod]

That's crazy. I just noticed that too. If I may have been going crazy too.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Oh. I think it's your body's ability to regenerate, you know, and. And heal and like, for fighters, like, there's nothing more important than your ability to recover from a hard workout so you can get to another one.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And I spent a lot of time like in the hyperbaric. Hyperbaric chamber. And now there's this thing like this pimp. Pmf.

[Joe Rogan]

Pmf.

[D Rod]

P. Yeah, PMF or something like that. And it's like actual like a whole bed and just like.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[D Rod]

Just kicks up like, like just some like electric, like little pulses and yeah, I'll be taking naps on that thing. So some of this stuff, I don't even know what it does, and I was like, oh, it's for recovery. I'll do it.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, hyperbaric works. And it works in the same way that NAD and NMN work in that it lengthens your telomeres. Like, they did this study out of a university in Israel, I believe it was, where they put people on a protocol of. For 90 days, they did 60, 90 minute sessions at a hyperbaric chamber. And they show that their telomere increase was equal to a 20 year difference in biological age. So it makes your cells younger because you're infusing them with energy, you're infusing them with oxygen. Every time I do it, when I do it for like a series of it where I get like, real consistent with it, when I have the time, I always feel better. I'm always like, why don't I do this all the time?

[D Rod]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm in there like, like four or five times a week.

[Joe Rogan]

That's huge. That, that is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know, because it makes your body react like a young body does, you know?

[D Rod]

Yeah. So I'm over here against, racing against the clock, man. So I'm like trying to do everything possible to, to for my body just to recover from these hard ass workouts, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

How long was it after you got out before you start sparring again?

[D Rod]

I recently just started sparring about three weeks ago.

[Joe Rogan]

So you gave yourself.

[D Rod]

Yeah, so what I wanted to do was, was definitely get in shape. Gotta get, get in good enough shape. So like, because if you go to extreme and you're out of shape, you're gonna, you're killed.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, they're gonna, it's gonna be very demoralizing.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah. So I, I definitely wanted to, to get my, my, get myself in good enough shape. So like, this whole time I've been doing like a whole bunch of like, weightlifting stuff and, and technical stuff and, and a lot of SNC stuff and, and, and strength and conditioning.

[Joe Rogan]

Just getting your body back in.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Again.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Ready to go.

[D Rod]

So just recently I'm like, all right, I feel, I feel, I feel good enough to, to, to spar and, and yeah, I have pretty hard sparring, sparring sessions.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, you were a guy that was known for your endurance before. You know, you're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much, you know, so it's like. And you always push a good pace too. So for you to get back to where you used to be and have that same style, like, you have to be in shape first.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I've been getting, getting ready just to start getting ready, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Right, right, right.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you wish you had more time than August or do you think it's a good enough time period?

[D Rod]

I think it's a good enough time, especially like the way I feel now.

[Joe Rogan]

And you have two months to go.

[D Rod]

Yeah, and I have like another eight, eight and a half weeks. Eight, nine weeks, something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

That's nice. Have you been to Serbia before?

[D Rod]

Never been. I've been watching videos of like the Serbian crowd, like in basketball and. Yeah, it's wild, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

That is Crazy. So.

[D Rod]

So in my mind, that's what I'm. That's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting, like, to be chanting, and they might be.

[Joe Rogan]

Have they had a UFC in Serbia

[D Rod]

before the first one? Whoa. Where's ufc?

[Joe Rogan]

We've played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times.

[Jamie]

Here we go outside one.

[Joe Rogan]

There's an outside. They got fires and what. I don't hear anything.

[D Rod]

Yeah. So I. I had looked. I had looked this up because I'm. I'm against these people.

[Joe Rogan]

They treated it like war.

[D Rod]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

The audiences, they. They chant like, they're like, a war is going on.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

In the middle of a basketball game. And you know all these SERP Libyans that are coming over and dominating in American basketball. Well, guess why.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah. That's originally why. I had looked this up a long time ago, and was it Nicola Jokic? Yoko is one of the top NBA players. And I was like. When I. When I. When I found fanboy over, like. And I love basketball. Basketball is, like, one of my favorite sports. I always, like, look into, like, the background of the basketball player, where he came from. And I had already seen the Serbian basketball crowds. Like, man, I'll be dope to go to, like, a. A basketball game in Serbia, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I'd be careful what I ate and drank, you know what I'm saying?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

He's going over there to fight their main dude in the main event.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[D Rod]

That's crazy. Yeah. If I'm. I'm like, dude, that's. That's crazy, man. It's like, like, especially.

[Joe Rogan]

They've never had a. A fight over there before. Never had a UFC over there. I'm not accusing the Serbians of doing. I'm like, might be a few unscrupulous gamblers. A few people.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So look at this. Look at.

[D Rod]

Here it go.

[Joe Rogan]

This is a basketball game. I mean, they got war drums. They got war drums. They're pounding, Bro. This is Viking. Yeah. I love it.

[D Rod]

So this is what. This is what I'm expecting when I go.

[Joe Rogan]

I love it. I love it. I want to go see a basketball

[D Rod]

game, especially fighting their. Their guy.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. It's going to be nuts, man, for sure. But it's going to be exciting. It's going to be so weird for you just to. When they shut that cage, like, oh, my God, I'm back.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I was in jail in Mexico.

[D Rod]

I was in a different kind of cage. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like a way less preferable cage.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Wild man. What a crazy story. You know?

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. And I get to, you know, tell the whole. Keep the story going, you know, make it even. Make it even better.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Does it. Does it piss you off because, like, you had so much momentum after beating Kevin Holland. Like, that was a big victory for you.

[D Rod]

Yeah. It couldn't have happened out of work at a worse time, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. Because Kevin's a tough guy and a tricky guy, and that. That was a welterweight fight, right?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And fighting him at welterweight, that's where he's at his best, you know, Kevin at welterweight is really. That's where he belongs.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

For you to beat him, that's huge.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

He's such a tricky guy, too, man.

[D Rod]

Yeah. It was an amazing fight, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

It was.

[D Rod]

I hadn't. I hadn't been. I. I think. I don't think I've had a fight like that in my career where there was so much going on. I was almost. I. I dropped him in the second, you know, I was. Blew my gas tank trying to finish him. And then come the third round, he drops me and almost finishes me, and I bounce back and then end up on top. It's like this. These are. Those are the fights that I train for, bro. In my mind, that's what I'm training for, you know, it's like. And it couldn't have worked out. It couldn't. That fight was amazing. I had. That's my third time being scheduled to fight him and finally. Finally happened. And it was an amazing fight. It was everything I expected it to be. And I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well, you know? Dude. Dude's a. You know, he's got a couple knockouts come, you know, looks pretty good.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a very skillful guy. Very skillful guy. Euros medic is no joke. He's very good. Yeah, it's gonna be a good fight.

[D Rod]

Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, I'm. I'm gonna bring it, you know, for sure. I'm bringing up.

[Joe Rogan]

You always do.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But for that, man, it's gonna be so emotional for you, like, having that moment, like, to realize that you. You're fully. All the way back.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't imagine.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

What is the craziest you saw in jail in Mexico?

[D Rod]

The craziest I. I saw in jail in Mexico. Not really. Too crazy, man.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I would imagine Tijuana jail is pretty crazy. Was it because you were in sort of a protected area?

[D Rod]

No, to be honest with you, the. The area I was in was kind of like. It's like the VIP section, bro, it's like, right? Everybody was like. They're like someone with money or like, you know, well, we paid to be there, you know, I wasn't like, very. It wasn't like that protected. It was kind of dangerous in a sense where, like, at night, all the cell doors are open, you know, so it's kind of like a little. Little dangerous on that.

[Joe Rogan]

Sketchy.

[D Rod]

Yeah, a little sketchy.

[Joe Rogan]

Nobody got killed or anything while you were there?

[D Rod]

Not on my. Not in my section, but in other

[Joe Rogan]

sections of the jail. People got killed?

[D Rod]

Yeah. How many in my. Since the whole time I was there, like, I'd say like two or three, you know, but, man, the craziest thing I saw in jail, probably. Probably some of this. I bought an ounce of weed.

[Joe Rogan]

You bought an ounce of Wheel? That was the last thing I would buy if I was in jail for weed.

[D Rod]

I bought an ounce of weed.

[Joe Rogan]

Were you worried about. They're gonna piss test you or anything?

[D Rod]

Yeah, no, no. Well, the guards brought it in, so I figured, like, oh, my God, I might be in trouble for this. Guards are bringing it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. The guard sold you weed? That is wild. How much is an ounce of weed in Mexico? In jail?

[D Rod]

About $300. It's crazy, bro. You could. You could pay for girls to come in, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[D Rod]

Yeah, they have like a. A. A menu.

[Joe Rogan]

Shut the up.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And you can't get a steak. I feel like. Keep the ladies. Can you get me a ribeye?

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude, we had a. We had a barbecue one time. Yeah, yeah, we had. We had a. A. We literally had like, a barbecue. It was like. Well, not on a grill, but when I first got there, we had, like, these hot. These hot plates. And. And the leader would always, like, do stuff for the whole tier, you know? Like, he always like, oh, today we, you know, like every once in a while. Say, like, once or twice a week maybe. No, not once or twice a week. I said, like once or twice. Maybe in every couple weeks, like, we'll get, like, pizza. Like, the order pizzas and. Really? Yeah, dude. And. And. And for, like, I think it was like a thousand five hundred. The. You could, like, order a chick, bro. Like a thousand. Like a thousand bucks or like a thousand five hundred, something like that. And they'll put you in the conjugal. In the conjugal rooms with. With some random chick, and you could, you know, have. Have your time with her for like, three, four hours or something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

So you could basically, if you have money and influence, you could kind of do anything in there.

[D Rod]

Yeah. I mean, if you got. If you got money, you'll. You'll be okay, I guess.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. As okay as you're going to be in a Tijuana jail.

[D Rod]

Yeah, but I mean, you're still locked in a cell. I mean, we would only go. We only get two days of yard for one. One and hour and a half, you know, an hour and a half. And the whole time I spent it running.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[D Rod]

Trying to run. Trying to keep my. My cardio up. And it was crazy, dude, because I was like the only dude out there, like, working out, you know, And. And honestly, by the time I left, I had everybody, like, working out running or. Or like doing some kind of. Like. It was. It was crazy how. How I. I. My just me working out, doing like my daily thing just like affected other people, you know? Like. Sure. Yeah. I was like, how I remember, like, I would have, like, I would come out to on the tier and I'll be like, doing. Doing workouts with dudes right there, you know? And like I said, there's a couple dudes in there that are some dogs, you know, and. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully if they do get out, you

[Joe Rogan]

know, can they contact you if they get out? Do you have your information?

[D Rod]

Yeah, I'm still in contact with them.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, that's cool. Hopefully you get them set up, man. Did you get the picture in?

[D Rod]

Oh, my God, Yeah. I'll send it to you right now.

[Joe Rogan]

Send it to me. I'll send it to Jamie. The world needs to see this. Wow. Is it crazy looking at it? Yeah. Did you send it?

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[D Rod]

Okay,

[Joe Rogan]

Here we go. Wait for it to come in here. But.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

So the two that you said a few people got killed. Did you know those people?

[D Rod]

No, no, I don't know, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God, this picture is crazy.

[D Rod]

Yeah. When stuff like that happens, like, there's obviously like, you hear. Because. Because. Oh, you know what? A lot of dudes were overdosing in there. Really? Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

From Fentanyl?

[D Rod]

I think so, bro. A lot of dudes were in there, like, doing heroin and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That picture is crazy though, huh?

[Joe Rogan]

It is crazy.

[D Rod]

Yeah. And then, like, to. It's crazy, dude. It's crazy how. How I've. How I bounced back from there.

[Joe Rogan]

It is. Wow, you look so thin.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude, just malnourishment at its finest, bro. Oh, my God.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You look like a dude who's just getting out of prison. That's what you look like.

[D Rod]

Yeah. So that's the first.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you got a burrito there?

[D Rod]

Some tacos. So that's like right after I had the burger. I only took like two bites of those tacos. Like, yo, I'm full.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll imagine your stomach must have been super shrunk, but yeah, you could see where you lost all your muscle mass.

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So to bounce back from that and to be, to, you know, be in decent shape right now and.

[Joe Rogan]

How many guys died of overdose while you're there?

[D Rod]

About three or four of them.

[Joe Rogan]

Damn. So you could kind of get anything you want, really, in jail. Any kind of drug. Could you get steroids?

[D Rod]

I don't think so. I try to get protein.

[Joe Rogan]

Protein powder?

[D Rod]

Yeah, yeah, some protein powder, but we never, it was never able to happen.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy. They get your heroin, no problem. Yeah, protein powder. Oh, it's kind of an issue.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That's ridiculous. That's crazy.

[D Rod]

Yeah, I had, I had turned my cell into like a little gym, man. I was like, just trying to, trying to stay busy, man. I always told myself, like, man, there's for some. This, this. There's got to be some way that this going to. Just going to work out for me, you know. And, you know, I ended up. I ended up having to, you know, pay a nice amount of money, you know, to get. To be sure to be here today is a lot, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm sure we'll talk about that later. But I'm. Listen, I'm glad you got out. You know, I, I had only heard about it maybe a few months ago. I'd heard about it like, I want to say three, four months ago because someone had asked where you were. Like, you know, someone's saying, you know, who we haven't seen a while is D Rod. And then someone said, dude, I heard he's locked up in Tijuana. And I was like, oh, no. Like what a hat? Like that could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a Mexican jail, like that could be it forever.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Never hear from you again.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man, I'm so happy to be out, dude.

[Joe Rogan]

I can only imagine. Yeah, I can only imagine. I mean, listen, it's. You don't appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain. And unfortunately, that's how people operate. You know, you get real accustomed to things being great and then you don't feel good about it anymore. You need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes. Just a little bit of a wake up call to let you realize, like, you should be so happy and so thankful. That you get to experience this life, especially the way you're experiencing it. I mean, what a dream to go from being a guy who's in and out of jail up your whole life to being a top 15 UFC welterweight contender in arguably one of the toughest divisions in the sport, if not the toughest. I mean, the UFC welterweight division is crazy.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You got Carlos Pratas, you got Sean Brady, you got. Got Morales, you know.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude. And before I got arrested, we. We were. I was gonna fight protests.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[D Rod]

I would have fought him in Brazil.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that would have been wild.

[D Rod]

Yeah, dude. And, yeah, I mean, it's crazy to see, like, how the division has changed. Like, right now, the top five dudes are. It's Ian, Gary, Protestant Morales, Makachev's champion, and it's completely top. It's completely, like, different now from. From. From when I. When I got arrested.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you see the JDM protest fight?

[D Rod]

No, I wasn't able to see that one.

[Joe Rogan]

Protest looks so good. He's. He's so clever. That's a tricky striker, man. And he's so long. So long for the weight class. It's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall. You know what I mean? Like, his arms and legs are so long. He's so slick.

[D Rod]

Yeah. When I. When I first got released, we were. We were planning to fight Leon Edwards. Yeah. But I think it would have been in July 11, and that would have been way too. It would have been too soon, you know? But, I mean, the August fights a couple weeks after that.

[Joe Rogan]

But, you know, that's a big factor, though, those couple weeks when you're dealing with, like, your body, recovering from what you've been through. That's. That's. August sounds right. July sounds early.

[D Rod]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[D Rod]

So, no, I'm gonna be ready, bro. I'm be in super good shape, and I just got. I just trust all the work. Work that's ahead of me, all the work that I have lined up and. And. And all the recovery and. And just. Just. It's like. Like. Like I said, man, like, just appreciating everything, you know, my. Like, my life, bro. I've been out of jail before, and no one ever gave a. You know, like, now I'm. I'm out, and I have these amazing opportunities, and I'm sitting here talking to you, bro. Well, crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

And more importantly, you got a big fight coming up, so that's very exciting. Exciting. I'm very happy for you, brother.

[D Rod]

Hell, yeah, man.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't imagine what you went through. I can't imagine what it felt like wondering if you're ever going to get out, you know, and thank God you had the resources and you knew the right people, and, yeah, they figured out how to do it. And thank God, into a Mexican.

[D Rod]

Yeah,

[Joe Rogan]

that dual citizenship. That's wild. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to hear all about it off air, but congratulations on getting out. I look forward to your fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really pumped for you. I'm very happy, very happy you're out.

[D Rod]

Yeah, man. Biggest fight of my life coming up, man. I'm just embracing all the work and just everything, bro. Just everything. I'm loving the whole process.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So congratulations. I know the people are rooting for you, so thank you for being here, man. It's a lot of fun.

[D Rod]

Thanks for having me, bro.

[Joe Rogan]

My pleasure, my pleasure.

[Jamie]

All right.

[D Rod]

Bye, brother Sam.