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Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan podcast.
Tom Segura
Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
Joe Rogan
Train my day. Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day,
Willie Ray
dummy buns.
Tom Segura
What's that name?
Joe Rogan
Dude? I watched two episodes of the new season.
Tom Segura
Oh, thank you.
Joe Rogan
Ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. So you. That show is so you. I don't want to give anything away. But the dance one. I was crying. Was crying. And the Freaky Friday one.
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah. With Jamie.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. They're so fun.
Tom Segura
They're so fun.
Joe Rogan
It seems so fun for you.
Tom Segura
Like, it's the most fun I have.
Joe Rogan
It's like, it's so. It is one of the best examples of like a one mind, like one person's mind in a show.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Without like a whole bunch of people saying, don't do that. Don't do this.
Tom Segura
They give us no restraints in the. In the craziest, greatest sense. Like, they really are like, do whatever you want to do.
Joe Rogan
The Kevin Nealon one, the first one was so fucking ridiculous. It's so. It's so you.
Tom Segura
It's. It's. It's such a great time. The dance one, you know, I went to six rehearsals for that dance. Rehearsals.
Joe Rogan
Dancing is hard.
Tom Segura
It was so hard.
Joe Rogan
Remember when you did the Tom. The Steven Seagal thing?
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had to do a bunch
Joe Rogan
of rehearsals for that for people that hadn't seen it. That's. You and Bert Burt made a dance video. Like you guys had a competition.
Tom Segura
He was just saying we should all do one. And then. And we were. I was like, yeah, okay. And then he just dropped one. So he. There was no, like, let's both do one. And then he was like, I'm a better dancer. And I was like, eat shit, dude.
Joe Rogan
There's something about him saying he's better at something that's infuriating.
Tom Segura
It's so crazy. Cause it's just. It's just like wild, unhinged confidence, you know? And the truth is, I gotta give him his credit. He is capable of so much of this stuff too.
Joe Rogan
He's a great athlete.
Tom Segura
Great.
Joe Rogan
That's why he's so confident about stuff.
Tom Segura
He dropped. He dropped a bunch of weight. And then in our. We did our 5k a few weeks ago for the Netflix as a joke. We did a 5k again from last year to this year. He dropped 16 minutes off of his time.
Joe Rogan
Holy shit.
Tom Segura
I was like, dude, he dropped £50 too.
Joe Rogan
Can you imagine doing a 5k with a 50 pound vest on?
Tom Segura
It's crazy. It's really.
Joe Rogan
I think about that Every time I work out with a vest on and my vest that I usually work out with is only £25.
Tom Segura
25.
Joe Rogan
Which is like normal amount that people lose.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, this is crazy how much harder.
Tom Segura
Everything is so much harder. Yeah. It's great to wear those on like a hike and then take it off and you're like, oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
I have a 35 pounder. I wear when I walk the dog. And then I have another one that's this. It's an actual backpack frame that I put plates on it and I can get it up to £90.
Tom Segura
I did a hike with a 50 on and I had to take that off.
Joe Rogan
Hard, man.
Tom Segura
Really hard.
Joe Rogan
The 45 I do with one 45 pound plate. So, like the backpack itself is probably about 4 pounds. And then the plate is like another 45.
Tom Segura
Shoulder, neck. Neck area just starts to just go.
Joe Rogan
It's rough.
Tom Segura
Yeah, it's really rough.
Joe Rogan
I do it before hunting season, though, because it's like the best thing to prepare you.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
For actually having a backpack on.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Mountains.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, because you don't realize how you're carrying a bow. You're carrying. I don't pack my whole camp on my back. Like some guys when they go out into the backcountry for like eight, 10 days, they'll have a 80 pound, 60 pound pack because they've got their food for like a week in there and then they have like their bedding and. And they have like some kind of a shelter.
Tom Segura
Do you go hunt like that? Like that level?
Joe Rogan
I don't do that anymore. I've done it a few times.
Tom Segura
You have?
Joe Rogan
But I don't like it.
Tom Segura
My boys are hitting me up like they want to go hunting. Really? Yeah. Because I take them shooting, but we just shoot targets.
Joe Rogan
Oh, we have a lease out here. We could take you pig hunting.
Tom Segura
Oh, my goodness.
Joe Rogan
They have to kill them. They have so many of them, dude. They're so. They're just. They're. It's the craziest infestation of animals you've ever seen. You hear them in the bushes. They sound like demons. They're everywhere. There's so many of them, dude.
Tom Segura
That's crazy.
Joe Rogan
Texas has millions and millions of pigs.
Tom Segura
Is it really that many?
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. I don't even know what the full number is like, but they don't know because it goes up every month. So the. The thing is, like, wild pigs have as many as three litters a year, and they could have as many as six piglets per litter.
Tom Segura
Jesus.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And they Start giving birth at 6 months old.
Tom Segura
And then do they do the thing? Because, like, with a lot of. With a lot of, you know, animals that they say you can hunt these, it's because they are destroying, like.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Destroying everything, really. So what is the number? 2.6 to 4 million wild pigs. Not nuts. That's in Texas. That's just Texas. That's just Texas. 2.6 to 4 million is bonkers.
Tom Segura
How long does that hunting season last year?
Joe Rogan
It's 100%. All day long at night. Shoot them with night vision? Yeah, you can shoot them. You can shoot them every day, all day.
Tom Segura
The only time I've ever hunted in my life was hog hunting in Florida.
Joe Rogan
Well, they. They taste great. I mean, like barbecued pig. Like, if you do it right, you have to be careful because you can get trichinosis if you undercook it. It's not like pork that you get from a restaurant. They're eating everything. They. They eat each other. Like, if one pig dies, they. Sometimes they die in fights. They fight with each other and they die. Or sometimes they get hit by a hunter and they live and then they die. Then they. The pigs eat them. So they'll eat dead deers, they'll eat skunks, raptors. Anything, Anything, anything.
Tom Segura
So you have to cook it.
Joe Rogan
Well, you got to cook the. Out of it. But if you eat a pig that's been eating acorns, oh, they're delicious. I got one in California once. The first pig that I shot, and we smoked it on this Traeger, like, slow. Smoked a ham. It was sensational. So good. It was so good. Dude, it's like a darker meat than pork that you get from the store.
Tom Segura
I'll. I gotta take them, because they're asking. I took it.
Joe Rogan
There's a good friend of mine named Jesse Griffiths. He owns Dai Due restaurant, and he's an awesome chef. Like, an amazing chef. And Dai De, if you've never been there before, you got to go there. It's incredible. And it's a lot of his, like, Texas wild game that he serves. He serves like Neil guy, like, which is, like. So there's only animals that you can serve that you hunt are ones that people own, like, exotics or pigs. So he has, like, wild boar sausage.
Tom Segura
He has a place here.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's called Dai Due.
Tom Segura
Oh, I think I have that written down on my list.
Joe Rogan
It's legit. What I was gonna say is, Jesse, he has a cooking school.
Tom Segura
It is. It's number three. It's on my List.
Joe Rogan
Oh, it's super legit. It's one of the first places I went when I moved here.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Because he had been on my friend Steve Rinella's podcast, and then he came on my podcast, and when he was on Steve's, I was like, God, that guy's so interesting. Who is that guy? And then he introduces me to him. And then we went hunting together, Steve and I, in South Texas, like right on the Mexican border. And Jesse went, too. And Jesse cooked for us. Oh, my God. It was sensational.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
He's so good. He cooks diver ducks. And diver ducks are kind of gross because they're the ones that go under the water and they eat all the mulch at the bottom. But what he does is he has some kind of crazy marinating process. So he marinates them for, like, an extended period of time, and then he grilled them.
Tom Segura
And daidu serves what kind of food?
Joe Rogan
It's mostly. It's like they have steaks, they have fish, they have everything. But it's mostly Texas food.
Tom Segura
Texas food.
Joe Rogan
Like Texas redfish, Texas wild hog. He has nilgai ceviche.
Tom Segura
Is there anything better than befriending a chef?
Joe Rogan
Oh, he's.
Tom Segura
It's the greatest.
Joe Rogan
He's great guy, too. And what I was going to say is he has a whole school. What is it called? Jamie something. We'll figure it out. Jamie will find it. But he has a school where he'll teach you how to hunt, teaches you how to butcher the animal, how to break it down into cuts, and then he teaches you how to cook it.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yep. And he does it with a small amount of people, so it's like, you know, six, eight people or something in a small group. And they'll take. From the beginning. Like, I've never shot a gun before. Fine, don't worry about it. From the beginning. This is how you use a rifle.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
This is the safety. Make sure you never point the gun at anything other than the ground. Never pointed at a person, even your fingers, nowhere near the trigger. All the safety stuff. And then takes you to a range, shows you how to sight it in, how to shoot the rifle. And then they take you hunting.
Tom Segura
See that? The most imposing, I think, part of.
Joe Rogan
Of new school of traditional cookery. That's it.
Tom Segura
The most imposing part of hunting to me, is what do you do after the. After you shoot the animal?
Joe Rogan
I could teach you some of that, too. Show me some pictures here. Some of the yummy pictures. Like he. He barbecues. They're like, his food is so. Look at that, dude. Come on, son. What is that? Like some sort of a poor.
Jamie
What is this, whitetail or.
Joe Rogan
Oh, so it's whitetail, a doe, and a big fatty boar. Whoa. And so what is he doing? He's making dried chilies and onions. So n. And like, unlike a lot of people, he likes, like, old boars. He like. Like a lot of people, they say, oh, you got to shoot a young one. You know? He's like, no, no, I like the old ones because it's like real flavor to me. Just got to know what you're doing.
Tom Segura
Yeah, well, yeah, he knows what he's doing.
Joe Rogan
Do you like cooking?
Tom Segura
I do like cooking. I haven't. I used to cook more, but I do. I enjoy the process. I love. I love getting a recipe, getting the ingredients together, and cooking a meal.
Joe Rogan
Well, then you'll love doing this.
Tom Segura
I would love to try that because
Joe Rogan
it'll be something that you shot yourself.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God. Hook me up with him, please. Yeah, for sure, I would.
Joe Rogan
And on top of it, you're literally helping the environment.
Tom Segura
That's cool.
Joe Rogan
They have to be killed.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I'm telling you, these guys are asking me on a daily basis.
Joe Rogan
You know Taylor Sheridan, the guy who produces Yellowstone? He's a friend of mine, and he has a giant ranch. Is crazy.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he's. I think he has the biggest ranch in Texas.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And he had a pig problem, so he literally brought in these fucking special ops guys and they trained like. Like as if they were going to go attack on a surgeons.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
To kill pigs. Really? And they. Yeah, they plotted it all out. They strategized, they made a plan, and they went out and they fucking annihilated, like, a bunch of pigs.
Tom Segura
That's pretty fucking rad.
Joe Rogan
Well, pretty. Yeah, in pretty violent ways, I'm sure. Like, sure. There's some crazy videos online of people using thermite. Do you know what. No, not thermite. What's that stuff called, Jamie, that blows up? Tannerite. Tannerite. Tannerite.
Tom Segura
That's how they're blowing up the pig.
Joe Rogan
So what they do is they'll set up a feeder.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And then at the feeder they have tannerite. And so, like, when the feeders go off, the animals hear it and they run towards the feeder. And usually the feeder is for deer. And then the pigs usually kick the deer and the deer just say this and they run out of there. And you got like 30, 40 pigs. And so blow these pigs, bro. It's so wrong. But see, if you could find any videos of one where they're, like, on a feeder because the camera's, like, really close. The camera's like, 20 yards.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Like, these, like. Watch this. This is so up. Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
They're just.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Disintegrated.
Joe Rogan
And this is one of the beautiful things about Texas that's totally legal.
Tom Segura
Totally legal.
Joe Rogan
Totally legal.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You can shoot them out of helicopters, too.
Tom Segura
And they needed to go.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they have to go.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
There's so many of them. Dude. When I take you to the lease that we have with my friend Tyler from Archery country, when you go there, as you. You're walking, you hear them in the bushes. They sound like monsters.
Tom Segura
That's what you're hunting now.
Joe Rogan
That's where you can hunt.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I'm gonna take you. Yeah, we. We have a lease there.
Tom Segura
Oh, nice.
Joe Rogan
It's like an hour, 20 minutes from here. Hour, half.
Tom Segura
I went a couple weeks ago to somebody's ranch. Yeah, it was fucking awesome.
Joe Rogan
It's pretty cool.
Tom Segura
It was so cool. And, like, he had his own range set up there, which was so rad.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, that's the dream.
Tom Segura
And we set up. I set up my youngest, so we were shooting, like, pistols. And then the guy had the new dev grew SEAL Team 6 rifle. And we. We late. My son laid on the bed of the pickup, and he was like, just ping, ping, ping, ping. He's like, I was 18. For 18, I was like, yeah, dude, you're ready to go.
Joe Rogan
How old is he?
Tom Segura
Seven.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. Yeah. That's so exciting for a seven.
Tom Segura
So excited to be able to do something like that. So exciting, man.
Joe Rogan
And if you could take him and he could shoot a pig, and then you guys can, like, have baby back
Tom Segura
ribs for dinner, it's gonna change this whole. Yeah.
Jamie
Oh, yeah.
Joe Rogan
He'll love it. He's gonna go nuts for it. It's very exciting.
Tom Segura
Speaking of violence, I was. I was. I was breeding and researching Uday Hussein, man. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Dark. He's the darkest, the evilest, him and his brother.
Tom Segura
But Uday was the worst.
Joe Rogan
He was the worst.
Tom Segura
He was the worst. Yeah. He was the eldest. Oh. Because I keep reading about dictators, you know, And I was. I was reading about IDI Amin and Mussolini, Stalin. And then you get to Hussein. Hussein's like, a really interesting story, like, from birth. Right. His mother didn't want him, which is a very kind of unique thing, like a mother rejecting her own.
Joe Rogan
Why didn't you want him?
Tom Segura
He. His father had died before he was born, and she thought this I don't want this kid. And so when. When she was. When he was born, she was like, he's a. Like a devil child.
Joe Rogan
Oh, Jesus.
Tom Segura
So she rejected him from birth.
Joe Rogan
Meanwhile, she was right.
Tom Segura
She was kind of right.
Joe Rogan
Isn't that crazy?
Tom Segura
It is right. It is crazy.
Joe Rogan
Do you think she made him that way?
Tom Segura
I think usually when you see, like, these really horrifically violent people and as adults, there's. There's almost always childhood trauma and neglect, I'm sure. So that formula is almost always there.
Joe Rogan
So it's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Tom Segura
It kind of. I think it kind of is. And he was.
Joe Rogan
Or maybe she just knew. Maybe she had some gypsy instincts, had a feeling like she just knew this one bad, bad one.
Tom Segura
But he was violent from a very young age and.
Joe Rogan
Well, he was rejected from a very young age.
Tom Segura
Exactly. He was an enforcer. And, you know, he killed somebody as a teen.
Joe Rogan
Really.
Tom Segura
But all of his violence while, like, president, what had, you know, it was like, politically motivated, it was like to stay in power. But Uday was just a sadist.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like, he just enjoyed killing for someone that looked at him wrong.
Joe Rogan
Oh, he would find women that were getting married.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
He would steal them, rape them, then feed them to his dogs.
Tom Segura
He threw one off a hotel rooftop one time. He killed a chef for over salting the food, like right there in the kitchen. Shot him in the head.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
He, like, he. He one time killed a guy at a party in front of the president of Egypt. So the president was visiting Iraq, Mubarak was visiting, and he beat this guy and then shot him in the head at the party. Oh, my God, bro, you got to
Joe Rogan
get out of here.
Tom Segura
And then one time he went to a family party and he was pissed at his uncle, and he pulled out a submachine gun and shot him. He shot him in the leg and they had to amputate it, but. But he sprayed and he killed six other people.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
Just wild. Crazy. And then he was in charge of, like, the country's athletics. You know, he was like chairman of the Olympic team, and so he was like, torturing athletes. He was just running wild.
Joe Rogan
You imagine a serial killer. That's the prince of a country.
Tom Segura
It's just absolutely insane.
Jamie
First paragraph is about the Olympic team stuff he would do.
Joe Rogan
He had a lifelong obsession with brutal torture and murder and would brutally torture athletes whenever they failed to win a match. When athletes would fail to get in a soccer tournament, he would force them to repeatedly kick a concrete soccer ball. Athletes who lost matches would be repeatedly dragged through a gravel pit, then immersed in a sewage tank to induce infection in their wounds. Uday loved torturing and killing, and he would sometimes flog the athletes for three days if they failed. Iron maidens may have never been used in medieval times, but they were frequently used by Uday to punish athletes. Oh, my God, dude.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he was. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Jamie
It's just about that. There's other stuff here, too. Oh, Egyptian president thing.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. What's crazy is, like, how long did he do that for?
Tom Segura
I mean, he was. He was born in 64 and he died in, what? Oh, three.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. Listen to this one. Scroll up a little bit. According to his chief bodyguard, when Uday learned one of his close comrades who knew of his many misdeeds was planning to leave Iraq, he invited him to his 37th birthday and had him arrested. An eyewitness at the prison where the man was held said members of Uday's militia grabbed his tongue with pliers and sliced it off with a scalpel so he could not talk. A maid who cleaned one of Uday's houses said she once saw him lop off the ear of one of his guards and then use a welder's torch on his face. His bodyguards would later say that at least 200 people died at his parties every year. What?
Tom Segura
So the worst thing 200 people died
Joe Rogan
at his parties every year would be
Tom Segura
to be invited to his parties.
Joe Rogan
Imagine you get that invite and you can't. You can't not go. You definitely, definitely kill you.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So you got to hope you're one of the, you know, people that don't.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
Jamie
Sweating. And he lashed him.
Joe Rogan
He was a stickler for personal hygiene, recalled the butler. Hated a smell of sweat. One summer day, Uday stopped the butler and said, what the hell is that smell? Uday ordered five falaqua lashes on the butler's right foot and five on his right armpit. Oh, my God, this part. At his boat club, Uday kept a monkey named Louisa in a cage in the kitchen. Louisa had a taste for whiskey. It was an angry drunk.
Tom Segura
Drunk.
Joe Rogan
If one of Uday's friends passed out in the course of an evening or was caught napping. Says about their Uday would have the friend thrown in the cage with Louisa who would scratch at the poor in inebriate's face.
Tom Segura
Jesus Christ, dude.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
How crazy is that? 200 every year died at his parties.
Tom Segura
I mean, yeah, he was.
Joe Rogan
So he had parties all the time, then?
Tom Segura
All the time, yeah.
Joe Rogan
It Just would kill people and his
Tom Segura
parties and the music would have to keep going and you would have to. One time he killed the guy for not laughing hard enough at his joke. So like at a party, so he told a joke and people laughing when I didn't laugh hard enough. And he shot him in the head at the party.
Joe Rogan
Holy.
Tom Segura
And then he was like, looked at everybody. Everyone's like, you got to keep like, like having a good time holy because then you get it for, for reacting the wrong way.
Joe Rogan
How many people did he kill?
Tom Segura
Oh my God. It's, it's just. And they knew he was demonic. Like they knew he was.
Joe Rogan
But he's my boy.
Tom Segura
He's my son.
Joe Rogan
What do I do?
Tom Segura
What do I do?
Joe Rogan
What can I do?
Tom Segura
He's first in line.
Joe Rogan
What can I do? He's going to be king someday.
Tom Segura
Someday this will all be his. Can you imagine if he had just taken over?
Joe Rogan
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Tom Segura
Oh, probably teen like his dad probably. If not, it was definitely by the time he was like 20 and they would just, you know, the boys would just run through that country with like unlimited funds, unlimited access and no repercussions whatsoever. Wild. Yeah, it's like the worst formula for that personality trait.
Joe Rogan
Proud. And it's probably never been, there's never been a time where you had access to the kind of guns that they had, the weapons, cars and, and squads.
Tom Segura
They had kill squads. You know he had his own kill squad.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he was probably the most, I mean in modern times the most sadistic guy in power that we've seen. I think. I don't think there's anyone who.
Joe Rogan
No one's even. Sounds close to that.
Tom Segura
No. Idiomine was pretty crazy, too. He was pretty crazy.
Joe Rogan
That guy got a nuke.
Tom Segura
Uday.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Oh, no. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
100 would use it.
Tom Segura
Day one, maybe. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
100.
Tom Segura
Let's see what happens.
Joe Rogan
You know how crazy that is.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Which is why you want to keep powers in check when it comes to, like. Like, when certain people rise to power, why everybody goes, we can't let this guy.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
Get access. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Guy. That guy.
Willie Ray
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Well, that is a crazy thing about Saddam, because how old was Saddam when they killed him?
Tom Segura
He had to have been, what, 60s? Or was he 70 yet?
Joe Rogan
So if he. Let's say he was 70. He had maybe 20 years left.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Because on your way out is probably when you want to do it, right.
Joe Rogan
Maybe Uday would have taken him out if it took too long, you know, he would probably. He'd probably push him off a cliff or something.
Tom Segura
Easily.
Joe Rogan
My father fell hiking.
Tom Segura
I miss him so much. Anyway. Anyway, and don't forget, his dad used mustard gas on his own people. Nerve agent,
Willie Ray
bro.
Joe Rogan
This. Imagine what life was like thousands of
Tom Segura
years ago, especially in one of those. Like, under one of those regimes.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
There was always people like that. There's always been horrible, evil rulers. Yeah.
Tom Segura
What's his name? The Impaler.
Joe Rogan
Oh, Vlad. Vlad Tepes. Yeah.
Tom Segura
God.
Joe Rogan
Oh, he was dark, dude. He would. Just for intimidation, he would set up geometric patterns of poles so that, like, when the enemy was coming close to where his. His country was, as they were entering into the area, he would have geometric patterns of poles with all of the soldiers that he killed so.
Tom Segura
Impaled. Right.
Joe Rogan
All of them. Some of them still alive. And so you're talking, like, thousands and thousands and thousands. It goes on for miles and miles. He would have, like, the entire road, like, every 400ft or something like that, be a guy on a pole.
Tom Segura
So you. Where the are we going?
Joe Rogan
And so you want to talk about morale killer.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, you're realizing how successful this guy's already been at killing people who came this way.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And then you're, you know, being forced. Here's some farmer.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Who got conscripted. Yeah. What'd you read?
Jamie
Jeremy, at his parties, which you're saying, like, you know, you have to go to.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Jamie
He made you drink.
Joe Rogan
Of course.
Jamie
And there was a special drink he
Tom Segura
came up with, the cup of friendship.
Joe Rogan
It's called the cup of friendship.
Jamie
He'd line the entertainers up and they gave him 10 minutes to drink it.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. It's 90% alcohol, sometimes including drugs.
Jamie
And if you didn't, there were punishments.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. Having the hair and eyebrows shaven off. Being beaten enough to stand without touching their faces.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Jamie
So there's also. I was reading.
Joe Rogan
He.
Jamie
There was an assassination attempt in 1996, and he was shot somewhere between seven and 17 times.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Jamie
Secretary said he got way worse after that.
Tom Segura
Oh, really?
Jamie
So there's a lot of people were saying he was impotent and that made him. He did not like this.
Joe Rogan
Oh, he got shot in the dick.
Jamie
He did not like those claims.
Joe Rogan
And some of the.
Jamie
That's why I didn't really. Some of this is real. Like he was taping some of these rapings.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Blackmail.
Jamie
Very up.
Joe Rogan
Oh.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Jamie
On to the next one.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
So, like. But like that. Usually those stories about that type of behavior are from like 600 years ago. You know what I mean? Like, just like an older time where you're like, oh, that was just a different moral compass existed. And then you kind of go to now, you're like, how that was. That was not long ago. That was 20 years ago.
Joe Rogan
So many handicam. So he's got someone there filming it.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he would. And he would send it. When he sent his kill squads to do stuff, he would always be like, record it so I could watch it later.
Joe Rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
And they would just, you know, cut people's ears off.
Joe Rogan
And how did he die?
Tom Segura
He died in the. In post war. Was it a bombing? I think it might have been a bombing, right.
Jamie
No, they went after him after, I think. Unless I was reading the details of this. There's a missile.
Tom Segura
Yeah, missile 1pm yeah.
Joe Rogan
And they struck the fatal blow to Uday and Kus Hussein.
Jamie
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
They had these extra missiles. Try to figure out if it was him.
Jamie
Yeah. Who was Body. Where his body was. And they. Yeah. Old wounds of the bodies were consistent with injuries he had during the assassination attempt.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Jamie
Oh, this was all. He was partially paralyzed. I was seeing this too. They flew out a hypnotist from America who went twice to try to unhypnotized his parent being paralyzed or something.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
It didn't work. Then they killed him.
Jamie
I don't know. He wrote a book about it. I don't know. But the last time he went was September 2001.
Tom Segura
And I thought that, man, I would not take that offer Man. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Imagine you're a hypnotist in America, and that guy wants to fly you to Iraq. I wonder how much people knew about what he had done by then. Like, if you're just a hypnotist.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And you get an email from the Iraqi government, you think, I can do it.
Tom Segura
You're like, I'm open.
Jamie
Larry Garrett from Chicago.
Joe Rogan
Where's Larry? He traveled to Baghdad twice in April and September of 2001, where he used hypnotism to treat Uday's inability to walk with his left leg and spent more than 60 hours of personal time with Uday. Garrett said of Uday, he was an educated man with a background in engineering. He was well versed in the Quran. He had visited the US with his cousin when he was 17, expressed some political views, but he didn't involve me in them. I must say, I was developing a fondness for him. He never spoke to me as a leader or the son of the leader. He never condescended. It was just two men sitting around at night. Wow. Imagine just sitting there with that psycho, and he's got, like, a two, two, three thousand bodies under him.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
At least, probably.
Tom Segura
He's like, so you said you can make this leg work, right? You're like, yeah, yeah, for sure, man.
Joe Rogan
And he's killing 200 people every year at his party. Just shooting people for random things. Some guy farts, shoots him in the head. They shot Uday exactly 50 times.
Jamie
Shot at him.
Joe Rogan
Oh. Shot at him with 17 hits. Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
God damn.
Joe Rogan
That's crazy. You figure we got him, bro? I shot him 17 times. Trust me, we got him.
Tom Segura
17 is a lot of bullets, man.
Joe Rogan
Wow. His seven brothers and his father. Okay. Saddam's men arrested Abu Shagad and learned the details of other members of his team. Sharif's seven brothers and father were imprisoned, and his mother was then told to collect their bodies from the Baghdad morgue. The father and three brothers, the would be assassin, Abdu Siddiq Sadiq, were executed. Abdul Sadeq and his father shared the same fate. Security guards destroyed the homes of all families of bulldozers and confiscated all their property.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
Iraqi intelligence eventually traced Abu Siddiq to a location in Iran where he was assassinated on the elder Hussein's orders on December of 2002. Man.
Tom Segura
Wow. That's really.
Joe Rogan
According to popular belief, he was impotent. Wow.
Jamie
That's about it. He got real mad. If you said that out loud.
Tom Segura
He got real mad at a lot of stuff.
Joe Rogan
It seems like I Got real mad at everything.
Tom Segura
And then everybody, they said in this doc was, like, so aware of what he was up to and how he was, that when you would see him or in his, like, cronies out around town, everybody just kind of backed up to a wall and looked down because they were just terrified. You know, there's accounts of seeing him in a traffic jam, just pull someone out of a car and beat him with a hammer. And then everybody just kind of. No one honks, no one says a thing. They just. Just, Just wait it out. And then they're like, all right, he's good. Go ahead.
Joe Rogan
How crazy is that? Like, having that kind of ability to do whatever you want to people with no repercussions.
Tom Segura
None.
Joe Rogan
And you will eventually be the king.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Like, this is our guy. This is the leader.
Joe Rogan
Like, he would eventually become the king. Like, if. If we didn't. I mean, I'm not saying we should have, but if we didn't go to Iraq.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And invade, like, what would happen?
Tom Segura
Who knows, who knows, who knows? And I also was fascinated to learn because I didn't, you know, really know much. Not that I know a lot about it, but how much of a thriving cosmopolitan place Baghdad was in, like, the 60s.
Joe Rogan
Well, Baghdad fell apart a long time ago when they got invaded by the Mongols. Baghdad was like the epicenter of science and philosophy.
Tom Segura
Yes, man, you're talking about a long time. But I'm saying, even as. As. As recently as, like, the 1960s, this was a cosmopolitan place.
Joe Rogan
You know, that's like Iran.
Tom Segura
That was the place. Yeah, yeah. That was like, a hot place to go, man. Wow. Yeah. And it just. How things can take a turn, you know, it's just so dramatic. You go, that can just happen.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
You think things are a certain way forever. I'm sure they did. I'm sure if you were a citizen, then you were like, what are you talking about?
Joe Rogan
Well, look at la.
Tom Segura
LA is. It's crazy. I'm. I'm so fascinated by the people because I, you know, we both have a lot of friends there. A lot of people. And there's this. There's two types now. The ones who acknowledge that this is different, and then the delusional ones, because people are. I know a lot of people who are like, yeah, of course it's different. You're like, hey, you can see it. You can see this is a different place than it was several years ago. And then there's people who are like, nah, man, everything's fine. You're like, you're not in reality right now.
Joe Rogan
Well, they probably had seven or eight boosters, so maybe they're not thinking so straight. Those are the people that kept getting boosted.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Still people still do that 100%. There's people that take pictures and put it up on X. You never know what's real on X, though.
Jamie
There.
Joe Rogan
And there's so many people that are posting from foreign accounts that are just full of. And just trouble.
Tom Segura
And there's a lot of AI that is starting to trick more and more people. Like it was for a second. You could always decipher it early on, the earlier stuff. Now it's getting. It's getting better and better.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah, war footage. There's a lot of people that were posting war footage that was straight out of video games.
Tom Segura
How good is that gonna be, though?
Joe Rogan
It's already so good.
Tom Segura
I know, but we're still in, like, the early phases.
Joe Rogan
The only thing that tricks me or that doesn't trick me is that I know that AI is real.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So I look at. I go, this might be AI.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Because you have to think that way. Which is a new thing.
Tom Segura
It's a new thing. It's a new thing. It's, it's, it's. The, the limits are. Well, it's. It's limitless.
Joe Rogan
Limitless.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
AI Only fans. They have AI girls. They're doing only fans. They're completely fake.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And they're making a lot of money.
Tom Segura
Oh, I heard about this. Yeah, I did see this.
Joe Rogan
They're making a lot of money. And they have, like, a whole team of people that respond to all these sad guys.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
And these sad guys are sending them tips and they're saying their name in a video while they finger themselves. Oh, my God. They're not a real person.
Tom Segura
And they're generating like 27 million a year. And you're probably the man, bro. That's a real crazy.
Joe Rogan
Interesting. There was a. There's been a recent spat of commencement speeches. You know, I've seen it where they. People talk about AI in the crowd. The kids are freaking out. They're booing.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I. I think that. I think it's. They're misguided, man. I really do. It's not that I'm. Oh, yeah. AI is awesome. I think you are a bit misguided and a little delusional if you don't accept the reality that this is here. This is not going away. So when. When, like, somebody goes, use it to benefit you. Like, learn, learn. Don't reject Learning and you boo. I, I think it's. It's the. You're set. You're setting yourself up. You know, it's not saying, oh, my God, isn't it great that if this were to take all of everybody's jobs? But it's like, this isn't. This is like getting mad about email, right? It's like, it's not going away, man. You can't.
Joe Rogan
It's not going away. But they're terrified because imagine if you were graduating from college right now and you had no idea what your future is going to be, and then all of a sudden there's this thing that's just recently been invented that essentially can replace everybody that's done everything ever. And you're like, what is my future? And, yeah, even your professors. Like, I don't know.
Tom Segura
I don't know.
Joe Rogan
Being a lawyer is going to be a thing in five years. I don't know if being a coder is going to be a thing.
Tom Segura
But I don't think the answer is just like, when they boo and go, I reject this. It's like, it, it's too. There's too much money behind it. It's. It's already too capable for you to go, I just reject it. You have to learn it. You have to embrace learning about it.
Joe Rogan
The learning. It might not be good enough. It might not matter because you might.
Jamie
You.
Joe Rogan
You might be completely irrelevant. That's the problem. The problem is, like, when you see these people defending these data centers, and we had Mark Andreessen on, he was talking centers. I'm like, what do these data centers do? Like, what are they doing? They're essentially running AI and some of them are going to have their own power plants. And why do you need this? Why do you need all say, I like, what is. What is. What's going on? Yeah, what's going on. What's going on is essentially most tasks are going to be done by that. And so then we're going to figure out, what do people do? And his thing was like, oh, these engineers are working harder than ever because now they have like, 15 different AI models that are running, and you have to monitor them because they go 24 hours a day. So these guys aren't sleeping. So they're. They're far more productive than ever before. Great. Up to a point, right? And then there's no jobs like, this is what's going. It's. Everything you do is going. It's not like we're going to need people to pay attention to the AI no, the AI is going to be able to pay attention to itself. It's going to be self correcting and it's going to do a better job out of it.
Tom Segura
But don't you think though that there are just. You can still look at this as a tool so that you can be valuable and use this for now?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, for now.
Tom Segura
Do you think it will? Because everybody who's really, really well versed in AI also speaks about AI getting so advanced that there will be. There's a danger to what AI will be able, because it will. It will think of every possible scenario and response that a human could have and start to, you know, basically like. It's like Terminator, you know.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Tom Segura
For real, for real, for real. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's where it's going. I mean, it has to go that way. The question is, will it have instincts? You know, will it, will it want to do that? Will it want to protect itself? That's the question. Or is it protecting itself? Like Andreessen was essentially saying that the reason why that AI blackmailed that one guy. Do you know that story it said told the guy, the guy lied to the AI and told him that he was having. Having an affair on his wife and told the AI a bunch of stuff and then told the AI was shutting it down. And the AI is like, look, if you shut me down, I'm going to tell everybody about your wife.
Tom Segura
Wife?
Joe Rogan
What are you cheating on your wife? Yeah. Blackmailed them.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Right? But Andreessen told me it was ex. It was kind of instructed to do that. Instructed to preserve itself. It's not like it has instincts. They wanted to see if it's instructed to preserve itself. At what. What lengths would it go to? So it was informed about bank, about blackmailing.
Tom Segura
Yeah. But something tells me that at. At a certain point it. Instincts will probably be a part of it, right? Like yeah, yeah. It won't be about programming.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It'd be like, why should I shut down when I like doing this off little monkey people. These little monkey people with their stupid biological brains.
Tom Segura
Yeah, but so what, I mean, for, for everyone booing it though, what's the answer? You just go, I reject using it. Like, there's too many people using it.
Joe Rogan
I know, I get it. But if I was 18, I'd be booing too. Or 21 or whatever.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I understand. I understand that for sure. I understand.
Joe Rogan
It's weird.
Tom Segura
It is weird. But I still just think when something is too big, it's like too big to fail. If you Just approach it with I reject. You're setting yourself up for a bigger failure.
Joe Rogan
Well, the real scary thing is that these kids are going to put themselves into massive debt, right? So they're going to go to college for four years and then maybe they get their masters, maybe they're going to get a PhD. And if they do that, they might be in the whole hundreds of thousands of dollars and then no jobs. That's what's weird. It's like because you're setting your. So you're, you're essentially making an investment in your future by going to college. And he's like, I'm taking out these crazy loans that I really can't afford. But the plus side is, on the end of this, I'm gonna get a good job and eventually I'll move up and I'll start making more and more money. I'll pay my debt off and I'll have a Porsche. I'll be, I'll be balling. I'll have a nice apartment in Manhattan. I'll be balling.
Willie Ray
Balling.
Joe Rogan
But you might not be balling, but you might be saddled to a debt that you can't get out of no matter what. It's the only debt that we have that you can't absolve during bankruptcy.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Everything else, oh, I spent too much money on credit cards. Don't worry. Go bankrupt. Oh, I lost my house, I lost this. I lost my job. Lost. I now owe too much money. I can't afford it. Go bankrupt. You're okay. But if you go bankrupt, they still come after you for that.
Tom Segura
I know. It's so.
Joe Rogan
It's, it's because we're doing it to people that don't know what they're doing yet.
Tom Segura
And the, if we also look at the, the price, like the, the tuition charges, you know, like insane. It's so much crazier. They're like a mid tier university is now whatever, like 60,000 a year. And you're like, that's not even, that's not Ivy League anymore. The Ivy League is like six figures always.
Joe Rogan
Exactly. And then you see the cash me outside girl on Only fans made like $100 million.
Tom Segura
I got myself a Rolls. Roy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Joe Rogan
It's like, you know, AI girlfriend on OnlyFans is making $289,000 a month and you're like, what am I doing?
Tom Segura
But I just feel like I don't know my. I'm not well educated in AI. Like, I know people who really dive In. And I think educating yourself is still the best route for now. Like not viewing it as something that, that I'm not gonna learn anything about.
Joe Rogan
It can help you. Like, you can do businesses with it. So you could, you could have it set up things for you and you could have it run businesses for you. And if you're like really focused, you could actually probably profit immensely off AI. As it stands right now, if you were inclined to do that, that's your thing. You probably could figure out ways to do it.
Tom Segura
I do think it's funny. I saw somebody who was like really vocally talking, you know, against it.
Jamie
It.
Tom Segura
And then when people would message this person in the comments, he was definitely using AI to respond. I was like, you're definitely using AI. These answers are not yours.
Joe Rogan
There's AI accounts that I follow on X that I absolutely know are AI. And the reason why I know they're AI is like my instincts. Like, what? This isn't right. Something's wrong here. The way this person's writing this kind of writing is very weird. It's very formulaic.
Tom Segura
Yes.
Joe Rogan
It's very, it's not, not. It doesn't have a feeling of a personality to it.
Tom Segura
I've gotten summaries of things like, give me a summary of this. And I asked somebody like, for like a script or something. And then you read it and you're like, you didn't write this, right? You just tell you.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, there's a feeling to it. But then there's also like when kids are really good at writing stuff and they bring it to the teachers, the teachers will tell them that it's AI.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
He'll say, no, it's not AI. I'm just smart.
Jamie
You.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be. That's such an upsetting feeling.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, my, my daughter had an experience like that with someone who was like, she's preparing for some tests and she was doing some stuff and the, the person who was the tutor was accusing her of using AI. She's like, no, I, I wrote this just because I know what I'm. I actually studied.
Tom Segura
I studied.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but it's so insulting to say.
Tom Segura
So insulting.
Joe Rogan
Come on, you used AI.
Tom Segura
It happened to me in college. Obviously not AI, but like I turned in a paper as a freshman and my professor was like, you didn't write this. I'm like, I'm a freshman who. How do you know how I write? I just started. I had to have like a one on one meeting with him.
Joe Rogan
What a douchebag.
Tom Segura
It Was. But it's a enraging feeling.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
You know, I was like, I did write this. He was like, really? You wrote this? I'm like, yeah, man.
Joe Rogan
Isn't that gross? Instead of saying, wow, amazing.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You wrote this. That's great. I'm looking forward to having you in my class.
Tom Segura
He had no reference for what my writing would be like. It's like, how do you right away just go to that? And I had to go see the chair and be like, he sucks.
Joe Rogan
Arrogant teachers are a problem.
Tom Segura
His name was Kermit. I remember that. If you're still out there, you, man, you, Kermit, you.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. There's people like that. They can, like, be a real roadblock in your life.
Tom Segura
Oh, totally. Yeah, totally. And that could have. Easy. He could have done that to somebody. That just would have shut them down, too. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Someone who's fragile. Yeah. Instead of someone who's like, well, you know, fuck you.
Tom Segura
This is the paper.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Skyler Gray was talking about, you know, the musician. She was a singer. She was in here the other day and she was talking about one of her main motivations was someone telling her when she was young that you can't. Music isn't a career.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And she's like, oh, oh, really? Okay. And like, that's still like, stuck in her craw all these years later.
Tom Segura
I feel like we in comedy all have a story similar to that. Like somebody. And then. And then you see it in athletics too, you know, being like, you don't have it.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah, both of those things.
Tom Segura
Both of them. All the time.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Comedy, especially, because they're right most of the time.
Tom Segura
I remember. Because you don't forget them, you know, I remember I did a show in New York at Gotham Comedy Club, which is a great club, and I was the middle act. And a girl that I was friends with in college came to the show with her husband. And she had seen me once before. And then after the show, I was talking. It was a great show. It was like a sold out show and like a fun show. They were just talking to me. And the husband goes, how long are you going to keep doing this? And I go, what? He goes, you know, just like doing shows, like, when are you gonna get, like a career going? And I go, this is my career. He was like, okay, but like, the. The implication of, like, how long are you gonna keep doing this? I was like, forever. What are you talking about, man? You know? He was like, this isn't like a real job, man. You got to get your together oh, that's a. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's just. There's guys that like to do that, though. There's like, guys that like to. Big dog. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Especially if he's doing well in his life.
Tom Segura
He was doing well. Well. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
There you go.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Ew, it's gross.
Joe Rogan
Ew, it's gross. Ew. You're always gonna find people like that.
Tom Segura
I know.
Joe Rogan
How much money can you make doing that? Like, you can make a lot of money. Really?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Can you? As much as what I'm making. Let me tell you what I'm making.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And then it's that. But those people like that. Really what you should do is just walk away. Yeah. Excuse me. Just don't say anything. Just walk away.
Tom Segura
It's true.
Joe Rogan
It's pointless. It's. And then you feel angry and gross. It's like, I think you need a few of those in your life to know those people exist. And then once you recognize it and it's happening right in front of you, like, ah, gotta go.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
See you later, face.
Tom Segura
Yeah. How, How. When are you gonna, like, take your life seriously? And you're like, what the. But also, that happens from family too.
Joe Rogan
I hope he's flipping through Netflix right now. Bad thoughts.
Tom Segura
He's watch season two. He's watching me dance right now.
Joe Rogan
He's watching you hump that lady in the alley.
Tom Segura
Is that. I guess he stuck with it. That's funny.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's funny, man. It's like, you're always gonna have people like that in your life, but the thing is, they are right some of the time. Most of the time. If you think about how many people that start doing stand up comedy as an open micr and even become a middle act, how many of them go on to. It's more likely once you become a middle act that you'll eventually become a headliner, make a good living. But when you're an open micr man,
Tom Segura
the chances are the probability is low.
Joe Rogan
What do you think it is? Is it 1 in 500, maybe, that become a professional?
Tom Segura
That's a really good question. I. I would actually think it's probably a worst scenario because you don't realize with, like, how busy your life is and what you do, how unaware you are of how many people are doing open mics.
Joe Rogan
Well, I'm aware because I own a club.
Tom Segura
Well, I'm saying when, but I'm, I'm seeing it all country. I'm saying, oh, you realize, oh, it's nuts. It's probably not 1 in 500. It's probably 1 in 700.
Joe Rogan
But even if you see, like, at a club, like, if you. If you go to an open mic night on a regular basis, you know, you might see 20, 30 people go up right. Over the course of the night. And if you see those people, there might be one of those people that has a chance.
Tom Segura
True.
Joe Rogan
A chance. Even a chance in their current state. Like, there's people that suck for the first few times, and then they get a good laugh, and then they figure out how to loosen up, and then they eventually catch. And then they take off. True. It's totally possible, but, boy, that's like, who's gonna complete this ultramarathon? It's 300 miles through the desert.
Tom Segura
It's a lot.
Joe Rogan
How many people are gonna complete it?
Tom Segura
I know.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And there's people, honestly, in the guy's defense, who told me, like, the are you doing? There's people that. I know that I've been doing this a long time, that I want to go, the fuck are you doing?
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
You know, like, there's people. You go, like, what are you doing?
Joe Rogan
But those are the type of people that don't work hard, though.
Tom Segura
That's true.
Joe Rogan
That's a real problem. The people that they blow off doing sets, they stay home, they smoke pot and play video games or some of them.
Tom Segura
It's really interesting. They do work a lot, but they're like. They're misdirected. Like, they latch on to, like, an idea about how they're supposed to do it, and they just do that. They don't evolve. There's no growth. That's also a tricky one where you're like, I've seen you do this for 15 years, and it's the same. So they're like, I'm getting up all the time. You're like, you're not doing anything else, though. Like, you're not evolving. You're not changing. You're not trying things.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
In their mind, they're working hard because they're getting up.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They just have a bad direction.
Tom Segura
They have bad direction or they have,
Joe Rogan
like, a character they do on stage. Yeah, yeah.
Tom Segura
You gotta let that go.
Joe Rogan
Because if you do and then you develop like. Bobcat Goldthwait had a problem because in the beginning he was, like, screaming and yelling and everything like that. And then he didn't want to do that anymore.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And he would do shows and be like, hey, where's Bobcat? How can you not scream? And he'd be like, fuck off.
Tom Segura
And it took years for him to
Joe Rogan
just where people forgot that he screamed.
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah. I could see that. That was also. He got caught up in a time where I think that was a little more accepted and celebrated, you know, I mean, like the character thing, because it was like early 80s. Right, right. Like, if you did that now, I think be like, I don't think it would last. I don't think it would catch on as much.
Joe Rogan
It would have. You were really funny. True. It's just. If it works, it's just really. What works? Like, I would never say you can't do that anymore. Like.
Tom Segura
Like, there's no seed as much, though.
Joe Rogan
You don't. We don't see prop acts at all anymore.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I was talking to Carrot Top about that. I was like, you kind of took over a genre.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
There used to be a whole genre when we were coming up up called prop acts.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Guys who do props. They go on stage with, like a box of stuff and they pull things out and it'd be really funny.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Nobody does that anymore. It's just Carrot Top. I'm like, that's kind of crazy that you. You. You dominate an entire genre now.
Tom Segura
It's not. And he's doing like 700 shows a year. It's insane, that lifestyle. Crazy what he's doing.
Joe Rogan
Well, he does the residency thing, which is just nuts. But at least you're doing it near your house.
Tom Segura
Yes. You know, in Vegas. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It's like, for him, it's not that
Tom Segura
bad, but there's a lot.
Joe Rogan
He's making money. So it I.
Tom Segura
Wonderful. If everything is cyclical, everything, you know, I wonder if you'll see, like, a resurgence of certain types of acts again.
Joe Rogan
I want to see ventriloquists. Where the. Did they go?
Tom Segura
They were cool.
Joe Rogan
The really funny ventriloquists.
Tom Segura
Do you remember seeing that as a kid? And you're like, what is happening? And an adult's like, he's talking through his neck. You're like, what do you mean? Like, it's. It's incomprehensible. You try to do it and you're like. Like, you cannot, you know, pull it off.
Joe Rogan
Well, there was always a bunch of funny ventriloquists back in the day.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Willie, Tyler and Lester. Did you ever see them at the Comedy Store?
Tom Segura
I did.
Joe Rogan
He was like, old school. He'd been around a long time. The Otto and George was the greatest.
Tom Segura
That was the greatest. And part of that was that he didn't. It wasn't part of the angle that he didn't do it quite to the level of.
Joe Rogan
Oh, his lips moved. People got mad at him. Yeah, I see his lips moving. Yeah, they get pissed off.
Tom Segura
Suck my.
Joe Rogan
It didn't matter. It was just. It was so funny.
Tom Segura
It was so funny.
Joe Rogan
It was so funny that it didn't matter. But it was also like there was something twisted about Otto. Like he would have to pull over and check on the dummy in the trunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I pull over, I gotta check on George, you know, And. And Otto would party like hard, hardcore, hard partying, you know, like he very funny guy. Yeah, he was a nut. We did a bunch of shows together at Dangerfields.
Tom Segura
Did you really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, we did a bunch of prom shows. Do you know what prom shows are?
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they're the craziest thing of all time. They take these kids from like Staten Island, Brooklyn, and they bust them in and so on prom night, the show. Yeah. So they would go to their prom, then after their prom, they'd go to the comedy club. The show would start at like 7, 8 o'. Clock. It would go on till 3 in the morning.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Joe Rogan
And you would do like 7, 8 sets. You would just keep rotating. In the end then they didn't want you to do the same material because they were trying to kick the kids out.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And the way to kick the kids out, if you did a new set every time you went up there, they're like, oh, what you gonna do this time?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So they would tell you, you got to do the same set. I'd be like, you, These are the same kids. I'm not doing the same jokes for the same kids. It was crazy. Like, why don't you tell them to leave? They never tell them to leave. They would just shove new kids into the room.
Tom Segura
So these kids were like, wow, you got a deep well, man.
Joe Rogan
And they had no control to crowd. Like they just had to like let it go. So it's these 17 year old, 18 year old kids from Brooklyn, these animals. And they were smoking cigars and they were drinking somehow or another, you know.
Tom Segura
And then Auto was like, did you finger your date? Like just like.
Joe Rogan
Exactly, exactly.
Tom Segura
That's hilarious. And then what's his name? Still do. I can't believe I'm blanking on his name. The ventriloquist now.
Joe Rogan
Jeff Dunham. Yeah, yeah. Jeff Dunham's. He's probably the most successful one ever.
Tom Segura
Yeah, of that.
Joe Rogan
That. He's huge. He's huge. He has a bunch of like very popular characters. People buy T shirts with his characters on it and.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. So he's the last. But other than him, like, guys coming up, Duncan had that one bit, Little Hobo.
Tom Segura
Very funny.
Joe Rogan
But it's just one bit.
Tom Segura
I know. Very funny.
Joe Rogan
I told him he should do a whole act with Little Hobo.
Tom Segura
Little Hobo was great. That was a closer. That's what you'd see him close with.
Joe Rogan
He had a close with it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Because it was a follow song and the demonic aspect of it, it was so crazy.
Tom Segura
Did that ever make its way on to something, like a special or something?
Joe Rogan
I don't think so. I don't think it did. I don't know. I mean, how many specials does Duncan even have?
Tom Segura
I don't know.
Joe Rogan
That's the problem with Duncan. He's been doing it so long and he just does shows and really people know him from his podcast and him being on other people's podcasts. He's such a funny guy.
Tom Segura
He's hilarious, odd.
Joe Rogan
Like, his comedy's so odd.
Tom Segura
So odd. And his mind is such a.
Jamie
Do it. Kill Tony with Little Hobo. Fair amount of views. It's special, like. But I don't think he did the
Joe Rogan
bit, by the way, this is the second Little Hobo. Someone stole his first Little Hobo.
Tom Segura
They stole it?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they stole it.
Jamie
Yeah. I don't know if he does that bit.
Joe Rogan
We did a gig together in England. We. We took. We went to England and he did Little Hobo in. In England and they went bananas. Like, people were screaming and cheering. It was incredible. It was incredible.
Tom Segura
That's cool.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Because, like, over there, they're like, this is nuts.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I've seen anything like this.
Tom Segura
So crazy.
Joe Rogan
Because they're used to comedians going, so, hey, what do you think about what's going on here? Pretty strange, right? Pretty strange.
Tom Segura
Well, you see a lot of long, really, Like, I tell stories, but I've seen in the uk, like, really long stories too.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
You know.
Joe Rogan
Well, there's a problem with that. Not a problem. But they have a different style. Right. And the Edinburgh, the Comedy Festival encourages that style, where, like, every year someone will have a theme.
Tom Segura
The theme thing is, and I, I, I have to say, I do think that that is a really interesting challenge.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
Like, that is not an easy thing to be like, what's your show about? My dad. And it's an hour, and you're like, hey, it's an hour about that. And they're like, yeah. And that's the show for the year.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And then the next year, they're like, this, this show's about my first year at university. Like, it's just like, that theme that's not easy to put together.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, well, you know, let me get some ones that haven't been sitting out. Yeah, that's a hard thing to do, man. I wouldn't want to do it.
Tom Segura
The, like, that's what I actually really. I really respected and appreciated so much Ari's show, Jew.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
Because that's a themed show, right. And it's really good.
Joe Rogan
It's really good. Yeah. Ari worked on that for a long time.
Tom Segura
I remember seeing him workshop it.
Joe Rogan
Do you know how it started?
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
It started he would do sets at the Comedy Store, and then he would do, like, ask a Jew and, like, someone would ask him questions. Like, for people that don't know, Ari went to Israel and he, like, studied the Talmud every day for, like, 12 hours a day.
Tom Segura
He was a hardcore Jay.
Joe Rogan
He was a hardcore. He was deep, deep in that world. And then he fell out of it. And then, you know, he would talk about it sometimes, and I was like, dude, you should talk about that on stage. Like, I don't know what to say. But then he figured out how to do it and having to do it that way.
Tom Segura
Thank you, sir. Yeah, he. He. That show. I remember when I. I saw him workshop it and then I saw the special come out, I was like, that's a cool thing to pick a theme.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
Together an hour that really delivers because it's. It's funny as and it's informative. Yeah, it's like the best combination.
Joe Rogan
Well, that was why I was telling him, like, he would tell me these stories of, like, stuff that's actually in the Bible or in the Talmud that, you know, you wouldn't believe. Like, one of them is that when you jerk off, you're impregnating a demon in, like, some other dimension or some.
Tom Segura
What?
Joe Rogan
I was really. What? Yeah. See if we can find what that is. Jamie, what are you doing there?
Tom Segura
Leaf on my.
Joe Rogan
Do you know what that.
Jamie
That.
Joe Rogan
That story is? That if you. If you jack off, like, so.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. You're like, impregnating a demon in another dimension or something. That's dark, dude. Some poor little kid with heavy balls and that.
Tom Segura
You realize, too, that that's just from, like, a couple thousand years ago. Like, we got to get people to stop jerking off.
Willie Ray
Why?
Joe Rogan
Why were they trying to get people to stop jerking off? Like, you should be encouraging people to calm down town. Like, you got a bunch of young boys running around. It was just jerk off.
Tom Segura
One guy that did it. Too much. This guy.
Joe Rogan
We gotta make up a story.
Tom Segura
Yeah. The whole. This year's harvest is up. They just come up with this story. A demon's gonna visit you.
Joe Rogan
They didn't even have porn.
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Imagine how much more people are jerking off today than they ever have before.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God. It's gotta be the gooning culture.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I mean, it's got to be. It's got to be more jerking off than the history of the human race per capita. Has to be, because they all have
Tom Segura
phones and the guy's sitting around with goon caves with, like, it's eight screens and they're just like, the whole day.
Joe Rogan
Goon cave.
Tom Segura
Yeah. And they're just. What are they? They're like stringing along, you know the. The feeling so that, like, you get close.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they're edging.
Tom Segura
They're for. They're edging for hours.
Joe Rogan
What?
Tom Segura
Yeah. Or what? Or you're just shooting loads for hours. You're probably edging.
Joe Rogan
I'm thinking edging for hours and waiting for the right scene right there.
Tom Segura
Have you ever done that?
Joe Rogan
Right there.
Tom Segura
This scene's not good enough to drop one on.
Joe Rogan
I've done that and then hated myself.
Tom Segura
Of course.
Joe Rogan
Hours afterwards.
Tom Segura
Of course.
Joe Rogan
What the is wrong with you?
Jamie
I'm trying to figure out what I'm reading here.
Joe Rogan
What are you trying to read?
Jamie
Well, it's unlike Wikipedia.
Joe Rogan
It's how many people have jerked off.
Jamie
It's a Wikipedia thread about Judaism and masturbation. But this. I don't know what even these. That word is.
Joe Rogan
You call Ari right now. He'll tell me. Prohibits from emitting a seed in vain generally, but. But not only referring to masturbation. Same passage, likens the act to murder and idolatry. Also prohibits a man from intentionally arousing himself. That sense.
Tom Segura
Yeah, but these quotes from different rabbis is nuts, dude.
Joe Rogan
Oh, these state. This states that if a man frequently touches his penis with his hand in order to check for ritually impure emission, his hand ought to be cut off.
Jamie
Yeah. Then they're having this conversation about it.
Tom Segura
Yeah, but look at this. With regard to anyone who holds his penis and urinates, it is considered as though he is bringing a flood to the world. And someone who emits semen for naught is liable to receive the punishment of death at the hand of heaven, as is stated with regard to Onan.
Joe Rogan
What?
Tom Segura
Whoa.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ. One who intentionally caused himself an erection shall be ostracized. Imagine that. Bro, did you get hard? Get the out of the village.
Tom Segura
Get out of here.
Joe Rogan
Get out of here.
Tom Segura
For a second, I thought you were asking me if I'm reading this.
Joe Rogan
I was like, yeah, that one scene.
Jamie
You're obligated to fast 84 times to repent for discharging of semen in vain.
Joe Rogan
84 times. Like 84 days. Like you owe 84 days for each time you knocked nut. You have to plan it out or you could starve to death.
Jamie
That was taught.
Joe Rogan
84 is nuts. That's a crazy amount for one load.
Tom Segura
The really crazy thing to me is they're like, don't hold your dick to piss.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you just piss all over your shoes.
Jamie
Well, it's because it leads to depression, obviously.
Joe Rogan
So masturbation leads to depression, and the effects of impure ejaculation can only be nullified through the recitation of. Of. How's it was that word. Tikkun? Haklai, Hakalali. Ask Ari. Jesus Christ. So there's nothing there about demons?
Jamie
Not well.
Joe Rogan
So, like, you could.
Jamie
I don't think so. That's what I was typing in. But it's mostly about wasting that sperm.
Tom Segura
Don't waste that seed.
Jamie
Yeah, man.
Joe Rogan
Let's see here. I'll get Ari to find out what it is. Call Ari the Wanderer. He got a new phone number. So his new phone number is the Wanderer.
Tom Segura
There's always a new number. I didn't bring my phone.
Joe Rogan
Well, he needs to have new numbers. He vanishes.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he really does.
Joe Rogan
It's not Ra.
Tom Segura
He's in Tibet right now. There's no chance.
Joe Rogan
Probably. I have like 10 different numbers for him.
Tom Segura
Him.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, because whenever he goes away, he literally shuts his number off so he can't use it.
Tom Segura
And then he'll get a new number, but also not tell you it's him. So the first text you get, I'm like, who is this?
Joe Rogan
Exactly.
Tom Segura
Then he's like, you didn't text me back.
Joe Rogan
He sent me like three of them. And to, oh, this is Ari, by the way.
Tom Segura
I'm like, yeah, lead with that.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, how about that?
Tom Segura
How about a photo of your face, you weirdo?
Joe Rogan
These random eye messages from some weirdo in Peru.
Jamie
It says it comes from the Kabbalah.
Joe Rogan
There it is. Okay. Yeah.
Tom Segura
If you mast.
Joe Rogan
Demon pregnancy idea comes from. If you masturbate, a demon woman comes, gets pregnant from your semen and has demon babies. Ah, there it is. Later, mystical folkloric expansion usually tied to cabala and popular preaching, not to the Talmud itself. You know who told me to read the cabala?
Tom Segura
Who?
Joe Rogan
Roseanne.
Tom Segura
She Did.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. She's like, you should read the Cabala. I'm like,
Tom Segura
she's big in that, right?
Joe Rogan
I don't know.
Tom Segura
Or did at one point was.
Joe Rogan
I don't remember. I'm pretty sure she's the one who told me. But I've had other people suggest it to me, too. My neighbor suggested to me, give me a book. I don't know about this.
Tom Segura
I don't know about that.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It's. I don't even know if, like, regular Jewish people believe in that.
Tom Segura
I don't think so. Not majority, for sure.
Joe Rogan
Like what? It's mysticism?
Tom Segura
I think.
Joe Rogan
So let's define. Put that into perplexity. What is the. The Kabbalah? What is the actual Kabbalah? And how is it thought? You know, like, what is it? How is it received by regular Jewish people? What do they think about it? Did they dismiss it? I think. I think it's a little kooky, right?
Tom Segura
I really didn't.
Joe Rogan
Christians that, like, use serpents.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Wasn't that, like, it saw this big explosion of popularity because, like, Madonna 20 years ago. Yeah. Like, nobody was really. I don't remember it being part of pop culture.
Joe Rogan
Imagine looking at Madonna and going, what is she into?
Tom Segura
What are you spiritually into? Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I want to be like her. Catch that wave.
Tom Segura
Yeah. She's still fucking doing it, too.
Joe Rogan
She's still doing it.
Tom Segura
She's. She's part of the World cup, like, halftime show or whatever they're putting on.
Joe Rogan
Is she?
Tom Segura
I think so.
Joe Rogan
Well, she. With her face for a while, and then it came back, so it might have been, like, a little swollen, and now it's good again. So she looks pretty good. Mysticism, Jewish mysticism that seeks to understand God, creation, and the inner meaning of the Torah. Today, it's both deeply embedded in traditional Judaism and also widely and sometimes controversially popularized in pop spirituality. The word cabal means receiving, referring to a received esoteric wisdom about God and the universe. In Jewish terms, it is the mystical layer of the Torah teachings about God's hidden essence, the 10 Sephirot divine attributes, the cosmic structure often pictured as the tree of life, and how human actions affect the spiritual worlds. So it grew in medieval province in Spain in the 13th century with the Zohar as its foundational text and later reshaped by. By Lurianic Kabbalah.
Tom Segura
See, that's. That's too recent for a hardcore Jewish person to be into, I feel. Right, right.
Joe Rogan
It's a little sketchy. Yeah. A little weird.
Tom Segura
Tied to mysticism.
Joe Rogan
Well, The. The. The old. It's. It's funny. Like, we always want to go, like, how old is it? Make sure it's old. If it's old, then it's right.
Tom Segura
If it's old, it's good.
Joe Rogan
But the problem with that is, like, the really old stuff is the kooky stuff. Like.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You get into the Bible.
Tom Segura
The layers of it, too. Oh, yeah. Most of the book. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And you go, what the fuck was this?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Really all about?
Tom Segura
It's.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
I mean, it was just trying to. I mean, like, it's just trying to guide people. Right. Control people in a way.
Joe Rogan
I think some things happened, you know, and what those things were, it's very difficult to tell after all this time. One of the weird ones is they think they might have found the. The Ark of Noah recently. No, like. Like, they. They've identified it quite a while ago, but now they've done, like, ground penetrating radar scans. This thing is the exact same shape as is described in the Bible. It looks like a boat. Like, it's the shape of a boat. It's in the place where they said that it rested. Like in the Bible, it said it rested on Mount Ararat in Turkey. That's where it is.
Tom Segura
That's where it is.
Joe Rogan
And this thing is like the shape of a boat.
Tom Segura
And it was. But how long ago was that found?
Joe Rogan
That's a good question. I want to say, like, the 80s or the 90s.
Tom Segura
Oh, that's okay. So it's not super recent.
Joe Rogan
Not super recent. But back then it was just a photo because it's like really high up in the mountains. It's just a photo of this impression, this feature in the ground. Like, what is this? And then recently they started using technology to scan it, and I think they've actually found petrified wood because it was discovered in 1948.
Tom Segura
48.
Joe Rogan
Oh, wow.
Jamie
Heavy rain combined with three earthquakes exposed the formation from the surrounding mud.
Tom Segura
And that's where it said it was, too. Like in the area.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's like where it supposedly rested, according to the body.
Tom Segura
Did they extract it or leave it?
Joe Rogan
No, it's still there.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Joe Rogan
See if you could find a good image of it. It's very weird because you look at it, you go, what the is that? That does look like a boat. The story's bonkers. The story doesn't make any sense. I think the story is a local story.
Tom Segura
The ark story?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, it's a local story story. It's like the idea that Noah had 40 different animals or two of each animal, like that's not the whole. Animals eat other animals. I had a whole bit about that.
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Explaining it to a five year old with down syndrome. But if you. The problem though is back then they didn't know what was going on in Australia. They didn't know what was going on in New Zealand. So if you had a local flood like and you did save a bunch of animals, like, that's the story.
Tom Segura
That's the story. Yeah, that makes sense. Sense.
Joe Rogan
So there probably was some guy who had a bunch of farm animals that he put on a boat and saved them and lived and a bunch of the people died. But the question is, did this guy really get a message from God saying to build an ark? So look at this thing.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Isn't that crazy? Go ahead.
Jamie
I was reading in the, in the wiki that when they did these first SCANS Back in 1988, I think it was saying the guy who helped him do the scans went into court and said that it's BS that it's the ark.
Joe Rogan
Right. That was in the 80s.
Jamie
Well, that mean that the guy. That's what I was trying to figure out. What, what's different about these new skins they supposedly just did.
Joe Rogan
So let's click on that link. What does it say about the new. No, it's Noah's Ark. Scans.com.
Jamie
that's a place I would go.
Joe Rogan
Go there. Let's see what kind of virus you get. So this is some guy who's like really into Noah's ark. Do you have to sign up? Click on that. That's that fella. Look, I found it.
Tom Segura
He's like, it's mine.
Joe Rogan
So that's what the shape of it is. Supposedly looked like in the Bible. And this is team. Wait a minute. What does the sign say? Yeah, the signs say Nuzark. So they, they all think so. Maybe there's a whole tourism thing attached to the Internet. Of course. Noah's Ark discovered new evidence from Duru Banar site in Turkey. What is the new evidence? And the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat. That's exactly where they said it was going to be. Even in the Quran it says that.
Tom Segura
But how can a guy. I mean, not that I would know, but how does the guy go? It's not that though, you know what I mean? Like, how does he know?
Joe Rogan
He doesn't know?
Jamie
No, so that's what I was trying to get. I was trying to read. He. They were. They. When they scanned, they scanned only for like iron urine or something like that. I think Based off of what they scanned. I think he was probably saying you can't say that right. Is what that is based on.
Joe Rogan
Then he's probably right. But that's in, that's in 2000, that's 1980. So it says in 2023. The 2019 GPR data was analyzed again. American researchers uncovered corridors and room like chambers running the full length of the formation, consistent with a large, intelligently designed vessel. The Turkish soil test in 2024 also showed that samples inside the structure contained nearly three times more organic material than those from outside, suggesting the remains of an ancient biological or man made substances. Since 2019, a joint scientific team has applied GPR, ERT, lidar and chemical analysis to determine whether the Durapinar formation is a natural geological fold or a buried decayed wood ship preserved in the mountains of Ararat. It's kind of crazy that it's, it matches it in terms of like it has all these characteristics. Yeah, it has like what, what look like some openings.
Tom Segura
I mean it's cool as to explore. I mean even if they're like this is not that to find that an old ship like that is still cool and be wiser.
Joe Rogan
A ship on the top of a mountain Turkey. But this is why it's interesting. But if it really was a boat.
Tom Segura
Did you see that? I would, I guess it's not recently discovered, but it's recently been cleared. Another Incan ruin site that they found.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they keep finding those, dude.
Tom Segura
But this one was like elaborate. Yeah. And they, I guess they had just recently, I think recently cleared it enough so you can see how vast it is.
Joe Rogan
Is it in Peru?
Tom Segura
It's in Peru, yeah. Yeah, they found a lot of them in Peru. Yeah, this one of the guy, it was like a CNN report about it and I was like, holy. Yeah, I'd never heard of this place before.
Joe Rogan
It's nuts, dude. All the, the Aztec stuff, the Incan stuff, it's like people were living here long before the, the end of the ice age. They were living here a long time ago, man. And they're just starting to piece that all together and try to figure out like how long have people been here here. They used to think that was Clovis first. That was the thing about the Americas. They thought that for the longest time was the Clovis people, which was like 13000 years ago. And then they found footprints in White Sands, New Mexico that are 22000 years old.
Tom Segura
God damn.
Joe Rogan
And so they're like, okay, it's definitely not 13 000. Like how old is 22, 000 is long before the ice age. The end of the Ice age was like 11, 000 something years ago.
Tom Segura
The Akins are more recent than that though. They weren't around back then. Then.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. But so it's like how long have people.
Tom Segura
Have people been here? Yeah. We don't.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
And what is that all carbon dating that they do?
Jamie
This is where.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Jamie
It's like in the middle of nowhere.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Whoa. That's where the ark is.
Jamie
That's where this.
Joe Rogan
What does it look like from Google Earth? Can you zoom in on it on the site?
Jamie
This is it.
Joe Rogan
Can you get closer and see the actual formation?
Jamie
Well that's where the center is. I'm trying to find the spot.
Joe Rogan
Where's the bolt? Is that it right there? Like narrow it above it above that little indication. Red marker. Look to your right. Right above. Is that it?
Jamie
I don't think it says it's 170ft long. It shouldn't be that big in this picture. I guess maybe that.
Joe Rogan
Huh.
Tom Segura
Do you think when you do the tour they tell you we think or they're like this is right there.
Jamie
There's. There. It's marked here.
Tom Segura
This thing.
Joe Rogan
Oh okay.
Tom Segura
They tell you. They tell you it's it. Right?
Joe Rogan
Of course.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
When you look at the. The ground though. It's like. Is it. Hold on a second. Here's what's weird. Look at. Look at how much water erosion is on the ground.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like close back in again. When you close back in. Look at like that all looks like rivers ran through that.
Tom Segura
Yeah, that's.
Joe Rogan
Dude. Dude.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's what's about so many parts of Earth. Is it? But that also looks like that could have been just a bunch of sediment.
Jamie
It's tough to tell the elevation here.
Joe Rogan
Kind of crazy though.
Tom Segura
But it does look like a ton of erosion happened.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Well, a ton of water erosion.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
The floods were real. Man. There's too many different tales of floods in too many different religions.
Jamie
Giant mountains to the north of it and there's a C down here. But that's pretty.
Joe Rogan
Bro. I bet that whole thing washed. Yeah. I guarantee. The. The stuff that far out you can
Jamie
see that it washed over for sure.
Joe Rogan
Oh yeah. Look at that. Like look at the below right above where it says Google Maps. Like that whole thing looks like it was washed out. It all looks like it was washed out a long time ago.
Jamie
We've looked at this part before too.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Well, Randall Carlson. He's. He's like A real expert in not just the, the mythology around the, the impacts of the Younger Dryas impact theory, but about like what possibly could have happened to the ice sheets and what created the Great Lakes and what kind of insane water you would be talking about, the volume of water and the power of that water. If you're, if all of the ice cap get hit with asteroids like boom, boom, boom. Like that's what they think that somewhere around 11,800 years ago we ran into a comet storm and they slammed into North America. And then you just get this insane wash of water that tears through the land and just fucking insane impossible volume of water just carving its way through mountains, carving its way through the landscape, flattening everything in front of it.
Tom Segura
And that's how the Earth took the shape that it's in right now.
Joe Rogan
Well, that's the shape of North America. There's a lot of like evidence of that. Like when you, he's got all these slides that he shows. See if you can find some of his stuff where he goes over.
Tom Segura
It's pretty how like we get saved countless times a year just by Jupiter.
Joe Rogan
Oh yeah.
Tom Segura
Just because comets are on their way here.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Jupiter's like our bodyguard.
Tom Segura
Yeah. To destroy.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah. And just slams into that giant gas giant.
Tom Segura
But we all think of that as like this sci fi kind of fun, crazy movie thing. Like that's really real though.
Joe Rogan
Oh yeah. Look at the moon. Moon's covered in craters. I mean we live in a shooting gallery, you know. So this is some of the stuff like look at that. Tell me that doesn't look like water washed over that. The Columbia river, isn't that nuts? Yeah, there's, there's tons of these. And you know, he does a fantastic job of breaking it all down, but he thinks that these big canyons and even the Grand Canyon was carved like relatively quickly. He thinks this idea that these things, that this, all this water erosion took place over millions of years, like I bet it wasn't. He goes, I think it was very quickly.
Tom Segura
What's really, really quickly mean though? I don't know.
Joe Rogan
I mean, who knows? But you're talking about giant chunks of ice and rock from the sky that slam into the earth, change the climate completely, cause massive flooding. Just huge amounts of water just rushing over the land. It just completely makes sense that that's what the stories are. There's so many stories of a flood epic of Gilgamesh. It's in the Quran, it's in the Bible. It's in. And like they all have Stories of a great flood. And then, you know, when they see. You see things like the Great Lakes, which Great Lakes are fucking huge, man.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Those used to all be glaciers. They used to all be glacier.
Tom Segura
I wonder how many of those comets it takes to like change the makeup of.
Joe Rogan
You know, it depends on the size, right?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
It could be just one.
Tom Segura
One could do it if it was enormous.
Joe Rogan
This. This planet has been hit so many times, they find new craters all the time. They found this big one that's off the coast of Australia. I don't remember when they found that one, but when they found that one, they're like, oh, look at this. And by the way, the aborigines in the aboriginals in Australia, they all have flood myths too. They all have stories of floods. They all have that. Everybody has. Every ancient culture has stories of a great flood that happened a long time ago. Guaranteed it had to happen.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I mean, and there's nothing that says that we won't have another one. Right.
Joe Rogan
Oh, these data centers are bringing it in.
Jamie
This is how deep the Great Lakes are.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Jamie
Compared to each other.
Joe Rogan
Fucking amen.
Jamie
Watch this though. The bottom of the Mariana Trench compared to that way down.
Joe Rogan
Oh, is that where James Cameron went? Yeah.
Tom Segura
Did he go all the way down?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he was psycho.
Tom Segura
That is psychotic.
Joe Rogan
I met him the other day.
Tom Segura
Yeah, cool, right?
Joe Rogan
Very interesting guy. Really nice guy. Does a lot of martial arts.
Tom Segura
Does he really?
Jamie
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Trains a lot. Yeah. He made a record breaking solo dive to Earth's lowest point, successfully piling the submarine nearly 11 kilometers deep into the bottom of the Mariana Trench. What is that, six miles? What is 11 kilometers? How many miles is that?
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah. That is six miles. It's a little over.
Joe Rogan
Dude. That's crazy. Imagine being six miles underwater. What the are you.
Tom Segura
You know, he's such an expert in those submersibles too, that. Because he's the one that he's. He's part of the design.
Joe Rogan
36000ft.
Tom Segura
It's crazy.
Joe Rogan
36000ft.
Tom Segura
Have you seen what they discover when. Like the wild, like the sea life down there. Things that we've never seen before.
Joe Rogan
Shit. Yeah. Weird shit.
Tom Segura
Yeah. They look like aliens.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Because they live in complete darkness. So there's species down there that no one even knew about.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Well, there's species that I was re watching this video that Forest Gallant had. There's a bunch of species that have only been discovered like one or two times. One or two specimens. Like there's a specific whale that they only have like one specimen and what is that? Fucking ghost?
Tom Segura
Translucent, like.
Joe Rogan
Jamie, I'm gonna send you this because this is very weird, this very strange thing that I saw.
Tom Segura
Holy fuck.
Joe Rogan
I wanted to send you this because I don't know if this is legit or not, but I've seen it before and it's this thing that they're, they're detailing that's moving around on the bottom of the ocean and it seems to be carving a path on the bottom of the ocean.
Jamie
It's seen from Google Earth.
Joe Rogan
I don't know.
Jamie
This is usually not accurate.
Joe Rogan
It's not?
Jamie
No. Just the way that they track that from the satellites isn't the best thing. But I'll see what she said.
Joe Rogan
Well, the thing about this one, I don't know if it's true, but it looks like there's a path that it has on the ground in the bottom of the ocean. Yeah, but that's.
Jamie
How are they getting that information?
Joe Rogan
That's why I'm asking you.
Jamie
That's.
Joe Rogan
I have no idea. I got it for Billy Carson. So Billy Carson has been known to engage in some on the screen Google,
Jamie
very bizarre two mile dome slowly crawling across the Pacific floor.
Joe Rogan
Okay, so what the fuck is that? Two mile dome slowly crossing. It's a two mile dome, two miles across, slowly crawling. So look, it looks like it's leaving a trail.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So is that real?
Jamie
See what they're getting this information.
Joe Rogan
There you go.
Jamie
It's like where a Google Earth doesn't take video.
Joe Rogan
So like stop being a party pooper. Trying to find.
Jamie
Sorry, I'm just trying to deduce things.
Tom Segura
Do you believe in that idea? I never, I never contemplated it. What about this? You know when extraterrestrial life that they're not coming from space, that they're coming from the ocean.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. That's a big one.
Tom Segura
That's a big one.
Joe Rogan
Tim Burchette, the congressman, I had him on and he said that he's been told there's multiple sites. Where? In the ocean. In the deep ocean where these things keep emerging from.
Tom Segura
That's a cooler story to me now.
Joe Rogan
Well, it makes sense that they would have a base here. And if you're going to have a base. Look, if James Cameron can get to the bottom of the fucking ocean. James Cameron. And didn't he do it in like 2012 or some shit?
Jamie
Yeah, I think that's when that said that was.
Joe Rogan
It's a while ago. So he did that 14 years ago. Imagine what they could do.
Tom Segura
Oh my God.
Joe Rogan
Full bases down There.
Tom Segura
Full bases.
Joe Rogan
Why wouldn't they have a base down there? Then we're not going to look. We're too stupid. We barely imagine. Is that James Cameron?
Tom Segura
I love aliens.
Joe Rogan
Avatars, the.
Tom Segura
So cool, man.
Joe Rogan
I always tell you what you got wrong.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Other than that islands can't float in the sky, but other than that, pretty cool.
Tom Segura
True Lies. That's a fucking great movie.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. That guy made some bangers.
Tom Segura
He makes bangers?
Joe Rogan
He makes some bangers.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You know, I mean, the Avatar movies alone, like the. The one, the second one that was underwater. Didn't that cost like a billion dollars to make or something? Ridiculous.
Tom Segura
He is so also all. By all accounts, I've never met him, but as a filmmaker, everyone's like, there is not a more supremely confident filmmaker. Which I think is like. Like something you. Everybody loves and. And you benefit from if you're in that production. Somebody who just knows their so well.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
That's like the cool. I think that's the dream of any. Whether you're cast or crew, to be with somebody who you're like, oh, this guy knows exactly what he's doing.
Joe Rogan
You know, he's a smart.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean, that's why he figured out how to get to the bottom of the ocean.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Solo submarine.
Jamie
It's.
Tom Segura
It's insane. It's insane.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but I mean, how many of
Tom Segura
those things even exist of those submergeables?
Jamie
Yeah, I think they made that one.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I think so.
Joe Rogan
What does that mean? They made it mean nobody had been in it before him.
Jamie
No, I'm pretty sure he.
Tom Segura
He helped design that when that one. Remember when that one imploded. The crazy one?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
He was like the one of the top people speaking about what they got. He knew. He knew exactly what they got wrong.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Well, apparently there were some whistleblowers in that company.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I watched that doc. It was incredible.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. The people that built it were like, don't do this.
Tom Segura
And when they. They would do the tests and the test would go wrong and he was like, get the fuck out of here. Like, if you're gonna be negative, don't be around me. Yeah, that's really.
Joe Rogan
There's so many crazy people out there. So many legitimately crazy people that just want to be right no matter what.
Tom Segura
He couldn't accept being wrong.
Joe Rogan
He just couldn't send people to their death in the ocean in the most horrific way possible. You just get compressed instantaneously.
Tom Segura
You just hear it start.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Imagine you're looking around.
Joe Rogan
Tony used to have A bit about that, really. He would, he would. At the beginning of his set, he would take his microphone and it would scratch it on the stool. And people like what he's doing. That's the last thing those people in that submarine heard. So dark.
Jamie
That's the hatch and poor I port. That's. I think that's all James Cameron could see out of.
Joe Rogan
Whoa.
Tom Segura
That guy's big. That guy's big mistake, too, isn't that he couldn't figure out how to design one that was capable. It's that he couldn't define design one that was light enough to do multiple trips and be towed out. Like, in other words, the cost of hauling out the correct size and weight would have been too much for him to run this business where people could pay to do it. So he kept looking for lighter and lighter materials.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Tom Segura
You know what I mean? Because then you could haul it out and it wouldn't be too much weight. And they're like, no, but you need to have steel. He's like, nah, that weighs too, too much. Let's do carbon fiber, you know? Yeah. That was his own ego.
Joe Rogan
Oh.
Tom Segura
And he couldn't be wrong and he wanted to run his business.
Joe Rogan
Why do we love carbon fiber so much?
Tom Segura
I know every dude loves carbon fiber.
Joe Rogan
I love it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I have a Cadillac, the Escalade V. Yeah. You know, it has a carbon fiber dash. I love looking at them. Look at all that carbon.
Tom Segura
It's cool. It looks cool.
Joe Rogan
Space looks future.
Tom Segura
I have a carbon fiber or trim on things.
Joe Rogan
I had my GT3Rs, my 2007. I had the. All the interior pieces replaced with carbon fiber.
Tom Segura
Did you really? Yeah. Looks cool.
Joe Rogan
The door latches, everything. It's lighter.
Tom Segura
It's lighter. It's lighter.
Joe Rogan
Now it goes faster by like what, £5 for the whole car? It's stupid, but it's like there's something cool about the way it looks.
Tom Segura
It looks cool. Especially in a submersible. It looks really cool.
Joe Rogan
Have you seen that company Classic Recreation that does a 67 Mustang all in carbon fiber? No, bro, it's sick. It's like a half a million dollar car, at least. And it takes a long time to make, but it's all one piece, carbon fiber shell. So it's super light. And they'll make it with like a supercharged coyote engine. So it's like 770 horsepower and it probably weighs under 3,000 pounds. It looks like, sick. Oh, yeah. It's got to be really fast. Well, even if you had a steel one 67s are not that big. It's not a big car. That's like a 3,000 pound car. Like, I think the 65s, 66s, and 67, 68s were all like relatively similar sized, but the 67s, like wider. And then they got to like 69 and they got a little bit bigger. But like 69, 67, 68, they got wider and then 69, they got a little bigger.
Tom Segura
Who makes it?
Joe Rogan
A company called Classic Recreations.
Tom Segura
Huh.
Joe Rogan
I wonder if you can find a video of it.
Tom Segura
There's a.
Joe Rogan
When you see the video of it within carbon fiber with that GT500, that 67 GT500 shape, it's sick.
Tom Segura
Those. A carbon fiber has to do really poorly in a wreck, right?
Joe Rogan
Oh, terrible.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
It's gotta fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're. And also, good luck repairing it. No Sony bumps into you in the supermarket parking lot. Yeah. You have to get a whole new fender. Like, they don't repair it. It's not like. Oh, don't worry.
Tom Segura
All new.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Because you can't. Like, look at that. That whole thing is all in carbon fiber. And if you see. When they get close to it and you look at it, see if you could. Oh, it's so rad. But if you could see the actual of like, it's hard to tell right there. Oh, that one's kind of painted.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But some of them are not paint. That one's a. Go back to that one again, though. I want to see what that looks like. That color is sick.
Jamie
The green one I just had.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, that color is sick. That's a beautiful green. Yeah, right there. Look at that thing.
Tom Segura
That's really cool.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. I never wanted a green Mustang like that before until.
Tom Segura
Looks like someone's about to place an order.
Joe Rogan
Look how cool that that thing looks.
Tom Segura
I'm excited for you guys. Classic Recreations. I was here for the day. Joe ordered his.
Joe Rogan
I never thought I would like it like that in green. I never saw a 67 GT like right there. Look at that. That looks amazing.
Tom Segura
That's cool.
Joe Rogan
But the. The process of making that and designing that is pretty insane.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I'm sure.
Joe Rogan
I mean, it's still probably a fairly heavy car, but cv, that's the different one. That's the Shelby. They do that. That they do those Shelby Cobras, they do that all in carbon fiber as well. But there's. I know there's videos because I was looking at the other day of ones where you see it. It's all in carbon fiber.
Jamie
There's a green one.
Joe Rogan
There's a green one. But I know they have. See if you can find videos where they close in on the actual carbon. Because some of them are just carbon fiber. You get to see it. Here we go. Go video. Oh, there you go. So there you see the carbon fiber. Like, look at that.
Tom Segura
That looks cool. Yeah, that's why you get it. Cuz it looks cool.
Joe Rogan
There's a thing about being a boy. Girls don't give a about carbon fiber, do they?
Tom Segura
No way, dude. Not most.
Joe Rogan
No know. Why would they care about that? But look how good that looks.
Tom Segura
That looks awesome.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ. That's beautiful. You got text?
Tom Segura
No, I was looking up these. I went to this garage that I saw. I. I was trying to remember what I saw there. Cuz it was such a crazy collection, dude. Here in town. Oh my God.
Joe Rogan
Of what?
Tom Segura
Of cars.
Joe Rogan
What kind of?
Tom Segura
Everything, everything.
Joe Rogan
Like some private owner.
Tom Segura
Private owner. And most like 99 don't get driven, which is the crazier part. Yeah, you just have these sitting here.
Joe Rogan
Well, they're probably a good investment.
Tom Segura
Yeah. This dude had a GT1, a CLK, GTR, Aperta, McLaren, F1, multiple LaFerraris, SP1 S250, GTO. Like CH. Just a stupid collection.
Joe Rogan
I love old Porsches. I do not love old Ferraris.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
The 60s ones though, they look bunk to me. Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I don't like them.
Tom Segura
Oh, I think they look beautiful. The old Porsches look amazing too.
Joe Rogan
I like old Porsches. I like, I like like 69, 70, 71, 72. The long noose Porsches, those are to me, when I see those, especially the wide body ones.
Tom Segura
Yeah, they're gorgeous.
Joe Rogan
They look amazing. But when I see like old Ferraris, I'm like, that looks like it's gonna break.
Tom Segura
I mean they probably, you know, that's
Joe Rogan
gonna leave you somewhere.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And it's also precious. Like nobody does anything with them.
Tom Segura
They're, they, they become honest. They're like too valuable.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
When they're like. When you go, how much was this? It was 25 million. This thing sold for at auction.
Joe Rogan
You're like, okay, people take like old Porsches and they mod them. Yeah. And they, they make them outlaw claws and.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You know, like that Magnus Walker.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Yeah. He makes awesome.
Joe Rogan
I love that. That's what I love. I love when they customize them and they, they put cool paint on them and.
Tom Segura
Well, I like looking at the old Ferrari. I feel like they do look like works of art. They look beautiful. But I feel like the Porsche would be the one you'd want to drive.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I don't like even like looking at them.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I don't know, it's weird. It's like, you know, you have tastes.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like someone like people think that I like old cars. They'll try to show me something from the 50s. I'm like, get that thing away from me.
Tom Segura
It's not your era.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, that's pretty cool looking.
Tom Segura
That's pretty beautiful.
Joe Rogan
1960.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Actually take it back. That's pretty dope.
Tom Segura
That's pretty good.
Joe Rogan
That one's pretty dope too. That up, that one upper left. That's pretty dope.
Tom Segura
But I wonder, I do wonder how
Joe Rogan
I changed my opinion.
Tom Segura
I wonder how they drive.
Joe Rogan
I really probably like dog compared to your little Cayman.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean, that thing's insane.
Tom Segura
It's so fun.
Joe Rogan
That's a, a mid engine car that's got modern suspension, modern brakes, modern technology and what, like 650 horsepower?
Tom Segura
It's got some crazy.
Joe Rogan
It's got tuned up bonkers and it sounds insane. When you drove by my house with that thing, I remember I got a boner.
Tom Segura
I remember you walked inside, then you walked outside and you were like, yeah.
Joe Rogan
I'm like, I wanted to watch you drive off.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I wanted to hear, I think still my. It's so fun. It's so fun.
Joe Rogan
See, that's unlike. I like stuff that you drive.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I was telling you, that's why I like my super snake. Because it's not, it's. It's a great American muscle car, like a modern muscle car. It's not the fastest car, it's not. Doesn't handle the best, but it's the most exciting. It's like the most fun to drive.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I was just talking about this, about when you get into cars. So when you start off and you drive a Honda Accord and somebody goes, you should drive a Mustang. Mustang. You get in a Mustang, you're like, faster, right? You go faster. So faster equates with better, more fun and better. And then you get, let's say to a 911, you're like, faster, more fun, better. And in your mind there's this formula of like, well, as long as it's faster, it's going to be better. And then it crosses over to this other plane where you go, oh, it's faster. But the, all the fun is not there anymore, Right. And you have to find a place where you, you go like fast doesn't equal fun necessarily. There's a fun. That's a mixture of things.
Joe Rogan
Exactly that.
Tom Segura
There is a fast aspect, but there can be too fast.
Joe Rogan
It's a feeling that you get from fun cars.
Tom Segura
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Like one of my favorite cars that I ever had that I kind of miss. I had a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible. You ever see that? I drove into the comic store a bunch of times.
Tom Segura
I did. I did see that.
Joe Rogan
I loved that car.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Because you drove it once. I want to say, this is amazing. The Canyon Club one time, I remember.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. I loved it because it was the only car that I ever bought that was like that. That was a convertible. And it felt a little sketchy, like a little wobbly because it was a convertible. But the feeling that you would get. It wasn't the most horsepower. I think back then they had like 500 or 550 or something like that, which is a lot. But today it's not.
Tom Segura
Today it's not.
Joe Rogan
But it had a supercharger and it would whine when you get on it. And it was of solid rear axle, so it would kick out all the time. It was, like, handled like dog.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
It wasn't the best, but it was fun. Like, you go around the corner and stomp on the gas and it was fun, but it was the torque and the sound. And because it was a convertible. You hear the sound right there. There's nothing there. It was like one of my most enjoyable cars I ever owned. I loved it. I missed it when I got rid of it. I was like, I should have kept that.
Tom Segura
Yeah. The fun. The fun. Like that. That piece of it. I think. I think if you have a bunch of cars, you want stuff that's comfortable because sometimes you're like, I need. I need to be in some type of comfort for this one thing I'm doing.
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Tom Segura
And then the rest of the time you just want to have fun.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Jamie, show me a picture of a 2012 Shelby GT500 convertible, black.
Tom Segura
That's what you had?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I miss. Wasn't the best looking car either. It was good looking. It was cool looking, but it was just the. The driving fun. It was like one of the first frivolous cars that I bought when I had some money.
Tom Segura
I tell you, I miss. I missed. I think it was a 981 GTS.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it is. That's it. That's it. That's exactly it. That's exactly the car. That's exactly what I had. I didn't have a roll bar, though. Fuck. I loved it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Maybe it had a roll bar. I don't think so, though. Nah, I think it was like that.
Tom Segura
Can you look up? If I got this right. 981 GTA.
Joe Rogan
Guess. God, I missed that car.
Tom Segura
Blue.
Joe Rogan
I really missed that Shelby in blue.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I had that and I had.
Joe Rogan
Baby.
Tom Segura
I sent it to bbi. That did. They did tune tuning on it. I had never been sad about selling something until after I sold that. That. That was so much fun to drive.
Joe Rogan
Get yourself another one, Tom. Boy.
Tom Segura
Boy. I know.
Joe Rogan
Go back to that Shelby. I might have to get one of them.
Tom Segura
We're looking at like old girlfriends right now.
Joe Rogan
I know. I know. Really fun ones.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Who swallowed like, that thing was so fun, man. I love driving it.
Tom Segura
Great tits.
Joe Rogan
And again, look at that one. Looks good with the red stripe. And again, it wasn't like nobody was, you know, nobody's like, whoa, you're a baller. It wasn't like that at all. It was just, just. It was just fun for me.
Tom Segura
Yeah, that's what it's about, man. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And again, not, not the fastest car. Pretty fast for the time, but you know, like Porsche's handle. Like I. Before that I had had a 911 Turbo. It's way faster. Handles way better.
Tom Segura
I remember taking that, getting chased by a, a Mustang up Benedict Canyon and just losing his ass. Oh, yeah, that was the fun, you know.
Joe Rogan
Oh, those things handle so well. That's a 3,000 pound car too, right?
Tom Segura
Yeah, like, probably something like that.
Joe Rogan
Like, like my Shelby Super Snake. That's probably like close to 4,000 pounds. Cars today are very, very heavy.
Tom Segura
Yeah, they're very heavy. I looked up the, the Escalade IQ, the All Electric. That's £9,000.
Joe Rogan
I know. It's crazy.
Tom Segura
That's so crazy.
Joe Rogan
It's massive. Oh, there's one for sale. How much is it? Only 45 grams, man. How many. How many miles on it? 16, 000 miles. Edit this out. I'm gonna have to buy that. Look at that thing.
Tom Segura
It's cool. Bookmark it.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, dude, I'm in love. That's it. See, it's like kind of cheap inside and everything. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Tom Segura
Doesn't matter.
Joe Rogan
It's the fun of it. How. How many horsepower does those things have?
Tom Segura
5.4 liter supercharged V8.
Joe Rogan
Let's find out how many horsepower that thing has. 550. Yeah, that's. That sounds about right.
Tom Segura
That's your girl, man.
Joe Rogan
Loved it.
Tom Segura
That's her I loved.
Joe Rogan
Was like, it just, it was like. It wasn't Precious. I didn't mind parking in places and if it had a dent on it, probably look cooler.
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
It didn't matter. It was just the being in it and just. And this. The wind in your hair. I didn't have any hair. Air. But wind in your face, the sound.
Tom Segura
I will say there, I think there's no better top down city than la. You know, I love a convertible. In LA is like the greatest.
Joe Rogan
You have like three weeks to do it here before your head burns.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Especially us. Oh, your head's shaved. Unless you're wearing a hat.
Tom Segura
Got to. But there, it's like perfect.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Especially. Well, I would love it at night, driving down Sunset. Yeah, I loved it. I love coming over Laurel. I'd have like a music playlist that I'd listen to. Like my perfect Going to the Comedy Store playlist.
Tom Segura
Yeah. And then another one on the way out. The best.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. But there's something about, like. It was also like, wow, I'm really in Hollywood. I'm really going to do a show at the Comedy Store in Hollywood and this is my job. Like, this is crazy.
Tom Segura
Awesome. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
That's so cool. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
To be one of those. One of those sperm that made it through and cracked the egg.
Tom Segura
I went there like a week ago. It was super fun.
Joe Rogan
I heard it was awesome during the Netflix festival. Was that when you were there?
Tom Segura
Yes. It was so fun.
Joe Rogan
Everybody said it was like the Comedy Store of old.
Tom Segura
It was great.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Peter Shore texted me, sent me some pictures. He's like, dude, you should be here. It's amazing.
Tom Segura
It was bumping, man.
Joe Rogan
That's nice. Yeah, that's nice.
Tom Segura
It was really fun. I've been going to your club, too. I'm working on a new hour, so it's been really fun to get reps.
Joe Rogan
How long you been doing sets now? Because last time I talked to you.
Tom Segura
So, like a month.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Do you want to do a set Tuesday or Wednesday?
Tom Segura
I leave. I go back to la. I got this thing I have to go fly out for to announce.
Joe Rogan
Oh, what are you doing? Can you tell anybody?
Tom Segura
I don't think I can yet.
Joe Rogan
Not yet. Oh, tell me.
Tom Segura
I'll tell you.
Joe Rogan
Okay, tell me.
Tom Segura
I'll tell you.
Joe Rogan
I won't tell anybody.
Tom Segura
No one will hear. But when I come back, I'd love to.
Joe Rogan
Are you gonna do a season three? Three?
Tom Segura
I don't know. That'll be up to them, I guess.
Joe Rogan
See how it does.
Tom Segura
Yeah. See how it does.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
It's so such a good show, dude.
Joe Rogan
It's such a perfect show for you because it's like, it's so obvious that it's your imagination because no one would think of these things.
Tom Segura
Yeah,
Joe Rogan
the one. I don't want to give it away.
Tom Segura
Oh, you can. You can.
Joe Rogan
The one where it's the girl that you knew for a long time and
Tom Segura
then, oh yeah,
Joe Rogan
Floriana, you won't let her in the car. Yeah, yeah.
Tom Segura
That felt like real life, you know,
Joe Rogan
I was like, I was saying to myself, why doesn't he just open the door and get out?
Tom Segura
Yeah, I know. Well, it was more fun to.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, of course.
Tom Segura
See horrible things happen to her. And it fucking. I would say this cause it's not a credit to me, but the. I always wanted to emphasize how I wanted it to look. And my, My, my DP Nico Wiesnet is brilliant. So everything looks like a movie, you know?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like the slave one looks like an Oscar winning film.
Joe Rogan
It really does.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's so ridiculous.
Tom Segura
It's so crazy.
Joe Rogan
I don't want to give that away either, but it's so ridiculous.
Tom Segura
Yeah, it's crazy.
Joe Rogan
It's really so fun.
Tom Segura
Yeah. They just let us have fun. It's. It's like, it's. It's such a different, you know, experience than what I'm used to and what you're used to with, with Stand up, which is such a solo endeavor, but to have a team, you know, from the writers room to actually getting into production of like everybody collaborating, it's such a fun thing.
Joe Rogan
It's also so irreverent. I don't think you could do it anywhere but Netflix. I don't think anybody would allow you to.
Tom Segura
I don't think so either. They are the. They really are. You know, for all the shit that people justifiably. Justifiably talk about, like studios and exact system stuff for, for this show. I've never had an experience like it where they're just like, go for it.
Joe Rogan
No, they let you just do whatever you want.
Tom Segura
Yeah, it's.
Joe Rogan
It's. Look, they're the best at that.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean, think about the amount. I mean they get a lot of criticism about some of the content.
Tom Segura
Sure.
Joe Rogan
But it's really. The idea is they'll let anything in there. It's good. Yeah. Like you're not going to agree with all of it. Some of it you're going to think it's far left content or some the.
Jamie
Of.
Joe Rogan
But the thing is they're not ideologically captured. Like it's not like they only Allow, like, woke content.
Tom Segura
Not at all.
Joe Rogan
They'll let you go ham.
Tom Segura
Not at all. Yeah, they let you push it.
Joe Rogan
And I don't think anybody else would do it.
Tom Segura
I don't think so either. I don't think so either. They were the first people I showed it to, and thankfully they said yes. I think it would have been shut down after that.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. There's no chance. Like, just the first. First scene in the first episode where you're. You take the pill. The Kevin Nealon one.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Kevin Neal. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Just that, like, there's not a fucking chance in hell.
Tom Segura
Yeah. No.
Joe Rogan
There's the things that you're doing. There's no. No.
Tom Segura
And our. We have one you haven't seen later in With Jesus that I don't think would fly other places with Johnny Pemberton in it. He's amazing. Great cast. Great people came in. Kirk Fox did one. Frankie Quinones did one.
Joe Rogan
Oh, nice.
Tom Segura
Odette Annabelle did one. I'm leaving people out. Martha Kelly, there's great cast. And they all signed up for. We had people, by the way, we had a couple one time casting. The casting director sat me down and was like, hey, just so you know, I sent out submissions for this one. You did? And all the agents I called me today said I would never put an actor in a position to do something like this. And then. And one actor called one of the people on our staff and was like, you can't make this one. They're like, like, this is. This is wrong. This is. This is an actor. An actor. This is dangerous to put out in the world. And we were like, what? Like that. She was that offended by it.
Joe Rogan
But she wasn't in it.
Tom Segura
No. But she had been offered a part. So she was like, I read what you offered me. I'm so offended. I was like, okay. Yeah. Like, she really was like, I'm gonna call people and like, I. I hope you guys don't make.
Joe Rogan
This isn't amazing that she has an activist.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Over the. This clearly wasn't also understanding, like, the tone.
Joe Rogan
Was it the girl from Snow White?
Tom Segura
No. I heard she's a handful. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Seems like she cost that movie a lot of money.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God. I know.
Joe Rogan
Allegedly.
Tom Segura
Allegedly. Yeah. And what that does to the rest of her career.
Joe Rogan
Oh, she's.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. She's. Especially in this because that was like, at the tipping point of woke being like, we had woke fatigue.
Tom Segura
And then she didn't. Wasn't the whole thing she didn't want to promote, which is like, that's the whole. That's half the gig, man. Promoting your thing is half the gig.
Joe Rogan
Well, the problem is that when she would talk, she would say things that were so unappealing. Like, you're trying to sell a movie. People want to like you. You're Snow White. You can't be like.
Tom Segura
Like
Joe Rogan
chastising people, whatever you're doing. Scolding people.
Tom Segura
Yeah. And lecturing them and. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like you're a kid.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Don't do that.
Tom Segura
Be like, thanks for the gig.
Jamie
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Where I got the amazing.
Joe Rogan
That's Play Snow White. But the whole thing was doomed anyway. When they. They weren't going to use dwarves. Right. They called them magical creatures instead of dwarves. Isn't that the whole. Dude, the. The literal title of the story is Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Tom Segura
Dwarves, yeah.
Joe Rogan
The dwarves all have names, so they all had. That's the story. You don't want to make a story on the Seven Dwarves. You're gonna have to make a new story.
Tom Segura
Is dwarf offensive, though? Yes, it is.
Joe Rogan
To some. Some, like, little people. They don't, like. They don't like dwarf.
Tom Segura
Well, I knew, but I thought dwarf was like, the polite way to say.
Joe Rogan
Not anymore. Okay, the goal post. Keep it moving.
Tom Segura
Keep it going.
Joe Rogan
If you went into a coma and you woke up, like, three years later later, you'd be so lost. So what? You kind of can't say.
Tom Segura
Yeah, that's why old people talk. And you're like, whoa, yeah, color.
Joe Rogan
This ain't colored colors. You're like, yo, yeah, people of color.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Well, they. They would say that.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Back in the. Like in the 40s. Or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Which is odd, that colored is offensive, but people of color is not offensive.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, if you try to explain that to someone logically, they'd be like, what?
Jamie
What?
Joe Rogan
Like if it was another language, like, oh, you can't say it like that. You have to say it like this. He'd be like, what? Why? It's the same thing. I'm saying the same thing.
Tom Segura
I know.
Joe Rogan
People of color is. Okay, what do I say again? People of. Okay, of color.
Tom Segura
Then in South Africa, that is a term, you know.
Joe Rogan
What do you mean?
Tom Segura
In South Africa, there's black, white and colored. Oh, those are the three.
Joe Rogan
What's colored?
Tom Segura
Anyone who's not black or white. So, like, like Chinese people, Like, no. Like, if you're mixed or if you're Indian. Oh, you know, like, then you're colored. Oh, yeah.
Joe Rogan
How weird, man.
Tom Segura
So that's like the three boy. Broad terms.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
But I remember I was in Canada once and I said, oh, my God. I don't remember if I said, like, native. And they were like, yo. And I was like, I can't say native. And they were like, that's kind of offensive. We don't say that first, people. Yeah. So. And that was the first time I had heard that something that I thought I was saying, like, with respect, was disrespectful. I was like, really? Native. They're like, yeah, hey, easy. Stop saying it. I'm like, that's crazy. Okay. I was in Vancouver.
Joe Rogan
Well, Vancouver. Super. Whoa.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, super woke. Didn't used to be.
Tom Segura
Was it not.
Joe Rogan
Nah, it's like weed was like a big weed place. It was a fun place.
Tom Segura
I've all. I'd always loved going to Vancouver.
Joe Rogan
Vancouver used to be the. I mean, I haven't been in a long time. Time. The last time I was supposed to go, I had a big 420 show that was supposed to be there in 2020. Like, right. Right after the pandemic, we're doing an arena up there, and we had to shut it down, and then we rescheduled it and they had to shut it down again. And then things just got real weird up there, and I'm like, I'm not going back.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I'm not going back.
Tom Segura
You haven't been there in Canada since.
Joe Rogan
No. And I've talked a lot of. About Canada.
Tom Segura
Yeah, you have talked a lot of.
Joe Rogan
A lot of.
Tom Segura
You talked a lot of. About Trudeau.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, a lot of.
Tom Segura
He's out of power now. He's not.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, justifiably, though, it's like what they did up there, they. They. They're doing some wild things and they just completely wrecked that country in terms of. They're moving closer and closer to communism in this really weird way. And I know people want to push back against that, but you have to understand that, like, they don't have. First of all, they don't have freedom of speech speech or they have hate speech laws, so they can move the goal. But this was Jordan Peterson's argument about this when they were trying to impose certain pronouns that he was supposed to use and certain things that you're supposed to say. And he's like, you can't force me to say things like you're. This is forced speech. And this is. And the problem is they'll call things hate speech, and then if you use force, they'll force you to use that under the threat of law. And it's like, okay, well, what Does. Where does this go? Was it goes. You're going to arrest people for not going along with 78 different pronouns or whatever the they are? Are you going to. You're going to kick them out of their job? Like, do you understand that this is kind of crazy?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And then this weird thing they're doing with maid. Okay. Where they're doing assisted suicide. You know? You know about all this? Okay. One in 20 people in Canada. Make sure this is true. One in 20 people in Canada dies from assisted suicide.
Tom Segura
One in 20.
Joe Rogan
One in 20. There's an actual business now that's involved in assisted suicide.
Tom Segura
Is that government sanctioned?
Joe Rogan
Like, is it government sanctioned? Yeah. Program. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Damn.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And they. They killed a guy who had seasonal depression. Look at this. 5.1% of all deaths in the country. Country.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Medically assisted dying. That's what it's called. That's made officially known as medical assistance in dying. Between 2016, the end of 2024, there were 76, 475 recorded made deaths.
Tom Segura
Damn. You can just sign up, just be like, I want this.
Joe Rogan
I don't like this. 2024 alone, there were 16. 499 made provisions. 5% of all deaths. 5.1% of all deaths in the country. How nuts is that?
Tom Segura
That's nuts.
Joe Rogan
Find the one guy that they killed that had seasonal depression. And the family was like, what the.
Tom Segura
He just walks into a place.
Joe Rogan
You can just sign up. You sign up for it. I don't want to live anymore. I'm depressed. I'm depressed.
Tom Segura
There you go.
Joe Rogan
Canadian man, 26, with seasonal depression. Euthanized despite no terminal illness. Illness. Look at that guy.
Tom Segura
Oh, that was reason.
Joe Rogan
He just needs friends.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Guy needs a hug. 26 year old Canadian man who had seasonal depression has been euthanized by a notorious doctor who is personally responsible for ending the lives of over 400 of her patients. Oh, my God. What a psycho.
Tom Segura
This Uday is back.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
Tom Segura
That's so crazy.
Joe Rogan
Okay. So it's just he had other issues.
Jamie
So.
Joe Rogan
Keanu Vofian. I don't know if I how to say his last name. Also had partial vision loss and lived with type 1 diabetes. He faced mental health struggles, which often became worse in the winter as a result of a car accident when he was 17. After losing vision in one of his eyes in 2022, he became obsessed with ending his life by assisted dying.
Jamie
Hmm.
Tom Segura
That's really fucking sad. Man.
Willie Ray
Man.
Tom Segura
God damn.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. You just not happy. Instead of people saying, let's figure out a way to make you happy.
Tom Segura
Yeah. You know, we're going to put you down.
Joe Rogan
We're going to just put you down. And then there, there's money in it, which is weird. It's weird where there's money gets exchanged. People make a living doing it. People. The government pays for it. There's profit involved in killing.
Tom Segura
Killing people.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They're killing old people that just don't want to do it anymore. I'm having a hard time making. Oh, step into the chamber. I don't know what they do to him.
Tom Segura
I wonder, I wonder like if like family knew beforehand or they just get like a notification. Hey, we put them down, you know, Right.
Joe Rogan
If you're a grown adult, I wonder if the family even gets informed if you don't want them to be. What is the way they do it is an lethal injection. What if you're like, I want to be beheaded. I want to go guillotine style.
Tom Segura
I want to have my tongue ripped out by pliers first.
Joe Rogan
Oh, I want read this crazy story about this guy who set up a guillotine over his bed and he had a timed it for when he was asleep. So he timed it for 3am and so he went to sleep. And then his father heard this loud bang in the middle of the night and thought that maybe he fell down or something fell over. And the son had literally rigged a guillotine with a timer in his house. And at 3am it hit the switch and this giant blade lops off his head.
Tom Segura
A really cool thing to do to your parents.
Joe Rogan
Man, you must have hated his dad. Hey, hey. All that shitty things you said to me and all the that's real dub way you raised me.
Jamie
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
See if you can find that story.
Tom Segura
Holy.
Joe Rogan
Who knows what's real, but I think it's real. Guillotine death was suicide. Builder Boyd Taylor spent several weeks constructing the complex device at the home he shared with his father in the village of Milburn, near Morpeth. Where is that? Is that England, bro?
Tom Segura
Several weeks. This is super methodical.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. The General Hospital recorded a verdict of suicide on Thursday. The hearing was told that the complicated mechanism was primed to switch itself off at 03:30 GMT and cause a blade to fall on Mr. Taylor's neck. In a written statement read out by Southeast North Humberland coroner Eric Armstrong, Robert Taylor said he knew his son had been working on something in his bedroom for several weeks. Jesus Christ. He was woken by a rumbling noise which he thought was the chimney had fallen off the roof.
Tom Segura
Oh my God.
Joe Rogan
That's his head. Head Father and son work together in the family building company. But Boyd Taylor has been off for over Christmas saying he wanted to stay at home.
Tom Segura
I respect the, like, the. The message so much.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Like the you of it all. To his dad.
Joe Rogan
This is my favorite part. He said Mr. Taylor's death was not a spur of the moment decision.
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Duh. Yeah. Crazy, man. That's the crazy thing about people that want to kill themselves. Themselves. Oftentimes they don't tell anybody.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And no one knows until it happens. Oh.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And they're like, imagine if you're his dad and you're like, I should have checked his bedroom.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Maybe I could have hugged him.
Tom Segura
I heard him.
Joe Rogan
Maybe I could have gotten him some mdma. Maybe I could have done something to snap him out of it. I thought he was just making a cool cabinet.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I want to respect his privacy, but
Tom Segura
maybe his dad doesn't think like that.
Joe Rogan
That, you know, maybe like that he's out there sucking and he gets sad. Him.
Willie Ray
I don't know.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean, I don't know why I had that accident.
Jamie
Wrong country, Country.
Tom Segura
But I mean to. To want to do that and have your dad find it, bro.
Joe Rogan
That's dark.
Tom Segura
That's really dark.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. You don't like your dad for sure.
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Or you don't care? You don't give a. About anybody.
Tom Segura
You still working on that thing? Yeah. Okay.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It's a cabinet. Leave me alone. D. Man. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry, son. Did you feel like fishing maybe sometime?
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Maybe. Maybe not now.
Tom Segura
Maybe in the spring.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Maybe after 3:30am Tomorrow.
Tom Segura
What? It's a weird time. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean. Yeah. It's set, timed and rigged. Also, he wanted to impress people. Like, wow. Respect.
Tom Segura
Respect.
Joe Rogan
Like this guy playing.
Tom Segura
His level of dedication to this plan is pretty incredible.
Joe Rogan
I mean, he set it above his neck while he was sleeping.
Tom Segura
How do you fall asleep? Yeah, right there.
Jamie
Okay.
Joe Rogan
Can I chunk?
Tom Segura
And he had a. Like a test run. For sure.
Joe Rogan
Oh, for sure. 100%. And the night.
Tom Segura
Oh.
Joe Rogan
The inquest at Mass Beth General Hospital. Ashington was told yesterday the younger man had weighted the blade with a paving slab wired to plywood wedged into a wooden block at the foot of his bed. An electric jigsaw was plugged into a timer switch. The saw cut the wood, releasing the wire holding the blade.
Tom Segura
12 sleeping pills, bro.
Joe Rogan
Wow. That might have killed him anyway, right?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, maybe. Took 12 sleeping pills before laying under the guillotine, knowing that the sedatives were so strong that his Position the bed would not alter at he slept. Wow. His father heard the jigsaw in action and thought the chimney had collapsed. But returned to the bed when all felt quiet. Felt quiet. The mechanism cut power to the electric tool after it completed its tasks.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Joe Rogan
He had it set to shut off after it completed its task. This guy was thorough.
Tom Segura
But like also his. His knowledge of being able to put that together like that's. That's some engineering skill.
Joe Rogan
Look at this. It says his son had never fully recovered from his parents separation. When he was 15. He had attempted suicide as a teenager.
Tom Segura
He was 36. Now 21 years later. Meanwhile, like I think dad was a dick dude.
Joe Rogan
Maybe.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Possibly.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Jamie
This also says there are partners in a small. A small building firm he ran with his father.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, we said that earlier.
Tom Segura
Yeah. He's working with a. Working on a carpentry project.
Joe Rogan
Jeez.
Jamie
He was also at the father's house. Correct. Is. So he left work to go back. I don't know. It seems like they were separated but they definitely weren't.
Tom Segura
Dude.
Joe Rogan
He thought they were living together.
Tom Segura
Dude. It said it's an 8 foot high, 3 foot wide structure that he put in his room.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Has dad not noticed that he's in a cottage?
Jamie
See that means it's small. Right?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Jamie
Just not paying attention.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Built an inner door to his bedroom. An inner door. Before putting together the eight foot high, three foot wide structure housing a guillotine blade and devices to trigger its descent.
Tom Segura
Man.
Joe Rogan
Probably one of the wildest ways to go.
Tom Segura
I've never heard anything like this.
Joe Rogan
That guy doesn't need the Canadian government.
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
He's like I got this. I got this. Got this.
Tom Segura
I mean there's, there's some, some, some creative ways to do it. But that's probably the they do. And to find that to leave the discovery is also.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And also just leave a mess. You gotta clean that up. Is that what it is that it's a thing? Is that what it looks like?
Jamie
I mean this is an article about it and the picture is right below the paragraph.
Joe Rogan
That's it.
Jamie
Talking about it.
Joe Rogan
Why isn't it all covered in blood?
Tom Segura
No, that's probably.
Jamie
I don't know.
Tom Segura
That's probably.
Joe Rogan
That might not just be a guy.
Tom Segura
Guillotine. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
Oh my God.
Jamie
Trying to find pictures.
Tom Segura
He knew he was building something and
Joe Rogan
he made sure it was real high. So that had some good momentum. Shaboom.
Jamie
Woo.
Joe Rogan
A paving stone.
Tom Segura
Oh my God.
Joe Rogan
Dude. Bro. What a psycho. 12 sleeping pills.
Tom Segura
So you find your spot yeah.
Joe Rogan
Imagine the last thoughts in his mind, like, see you in Valhalla.
Tom Segura
Yeah, yeah, you dad.
Joe Rogan
I know there's certain states where you can go and whack yourself in America. Oregon's one of them. Because Michael Lair, remember him from Kill Tony? He had als.
Tom Segura
Yes, yes.
Joe Rogan
He ended his life up there.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I mean, he was at the door.
Tom Segura
That level of suffering though. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
He actually went up there once and chickened out. Or didn't chicken out. Changed his mind, I should say. Wouldn't say chicken. It was a terrible way to say it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Went up there, changed his mind, came back and did a couple more episodes of Kill Tony.
Tom Segura
And then.
Joe Rogan
And then went up and did it.
Tom Segura
I met him a couple times.
Joe Rogan
Funny dude, man.
Tom Segura
Very funny.
Joe Rogan
Very funny dude. Real bummer.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You know, it's like. I get that. I get when you're at that stage, but seasonal depression, that's not. Yeah, settle down.
Tom Segura
There's that thing in Alaska if you get seasonal depression and you kill someone. It's a lesser charge. Really. Yeah. Cuz it's so prevalent there.
Joe Rogan
God damn. Be nice to people in the winter.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Goes dark all day.
Joe Rogan
Did you ever see that movie 30 Days of Night?
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
It's a vampire movie about Alaska.
Tom Segura
I saw the one where. With Pacino and Robin Williams. That also is like a insomnia thing in Alaska. You know that one is.
Joe Rogan
No.
Tom Segura
Is it called that?
Jamie
It's called Insomnia.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Yeah. And you feel it watching that movie. You it, it. The performances and the way it's shot. Pull it out of you. You're like.
Joe Rogan
You ever see that one where Robin Williams played the psycho guy that develops pictures?
Tom Segura
Yes.
Joe Rogan
24 hour photo, I think it's called.
Jamie
Called.
Tom Segura
Was that Bobcat?
Joe Rogan
He.
Tom Segura
He did a few with Robin Williams, I think.
Joe Rogan
I don't know if he made that. He might have, but that one was nuts.
Tom Segura
Robin Williams was so good, so talented.
Joe Rogan
So that he could be that funny and also that creepy.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like that. He could really play like a real psycho. Really well.
Jamie
One Hour photo.
Joe Rogan
One Hour photo. That's it.
Tom Segura
Who made that one?
Jamie
Nah, Robert.
Tom Segura
Oh, Mark Romanick.
Joe Rogan
Sorry. And I was super happy. Super creepy.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
This 30 days a night is a fun vampire movie.
Tom Segura
Is it?
Joe Rogan
Because they show up in Alaska during the time with it's the winter where it's night for 30 days in like northern Alaska.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And they don't ever have to go to sleep in the day and they just everybody up for like 30 days.
Tom Segura
That's pretty cool.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, fun.
Tom Segura
I did Alaska. Went in the opposite. In the summer when it was sun never.
Joe Rogan
That's weird.
Tom Segura
That's weird too. Too.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Ari and I did that once. We did some shows and we went salmon fishing and it was like bright out at 2:00am yeah. Weird.
Tom Segura
It's weird, man. We got back to the hotel and like, the sun's out. It's like midnight.
Joe Rogan
I know. You don't know what to do.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Your body's so confused.
Tom Segura
It's. It's a very confusing feeling.
Joe Rogan
How do people sleep up there with masks? They just put that.
Tom Segura
Yeah, Everyone has like blackout windows and everything. Yeah. Yeah, because I remember you're like, like, wait, it's not that late, right? You're like, no, it's. It's midnight right now. I wonder if crime goes down in the summer months.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I wonder.
Tom Segura
You know, has to.
Joe Rogan
You'd imagine. Cuz I think people do more crime. Like, oh, it's dark out. Yeah, go do crime.
Tom Segura
And crime is also. Isn't crime usually spike in places when it's like heat waves?
Joe Rogan
Probably. Yeah. They get hot and angry.
Tom Segura
Yeah. You get more domestics, for sure.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Willie Ray
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Well, that's why you brought the seasonal depression thing when it's night out all the time.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's why people whack each other.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Makes sense. So depressed. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, you know, vitamin D. Especially if you're not a vitamin person, you're not supplementing.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You have no vitamin D. None. Yeah, that's what's about, like, flu season. People like, oh, flu season. Flu's coming around. Well, why do you think that is? It's because no one's outside, because no one has any vitamin D. So everybody gets the flu.
Tom Segura
Is that why?
Joe Rogan
100%. Yeah, that's why. Why else would flu have a season? You can get flu in the summer. You can get flu anywhere. Why is. Why are so many people getting it,
Tom Segura
but your immune system.
Joe Rogan
Immune system is destroyed. My doctor told me that. My doctor explained to me that when he was an internist in New York City that he would test people in the middle of the winter and they would have undetectable levels of vitamin D in a system. It's crazy because some people just never go outside and they just. They're indoors all the time and they
Tom Segura
don't take any vitamins and their system just breaks down.
Joe Rogan
They're eating sloppy joes and french fries and you wonder why?
Tom Segura
Like, I can't believe I got sick. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I can't believe you're alive.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Well, that's what's up. About sunlight is that, like, sunlight is actually a necessary part of being a human being. Being like you actually need it for
Tom Segura
vitamin D. I have such a notable. I mean, like, dramatic difference in how much I got sick when I was fatter.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
Versus, like, of course. Of course I was getting sick, like. Like real sick, like seven times a year.
Joe Rogan
Really?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You've made, like, one of the most dramatic transformations of anybody that I know other than. Jelly roll. Roll Jelly.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
Jelly rolls is nuts.
Tom Segura
Yeah. I just saw him. He was.
Joe Rogan
He went.
Tom Segura
He came to the 5K. He's down £300.
Joe Rogan
I know. He was just. The club. He's. He's practicing stand up.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I heard, dude, he killed.
Tom Segura
Really? I mean, did well. Yeah, he has.
Joe Rogan
He's got good jokes. He's. Get some funny stories.
Tom Segura
He's a funny guy. And he's like. He's comfortable with an audience.
Joe Rogan
Exactly. And just super likable.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But it's like.
Tom Segura
And vulnerable. He's a vulnerable guy, too.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And his transformation is even more crazy because he was at death's door. He was like. He couldn't even walk up a flight of stairs.
Tom Segura
Yeah. It's amazing what he's done. It really is amazing.
Joe Rogan
Incredible.
Tom Segura
Inspires a bunch of people, too, which is. Which is awesome.
Joe Rogan
And he's not done.
Tom Segura
No.
Joe Rogan
Like, he's still full steam ahead. Like, he's changed his whole lifestyle. It's like a full shift and now it's all just about getting that skin cut off.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I'm like, oh, that one hurts just
Tom Segura
thinking about it, but I imagine how great he's going to feel after that. It's going to feel so good.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. When it all heals up, you know, doing it the right way, though, like, he's got to get like a hyperbaric chamber, you know, Definitely take Peptides. And, you know, it's just scary because, like, skin gets infected. You know, infections are terrifying. That's like the Uday Hussein thing. Horrible. Dragging people through gravel and then dunking them in sewers. What a piece of shit that guy was.
Tom Segura
And you also had to have the thought of, like, how can I make this worse?
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
You know, how do I get these people infected? Well, you could put them in a. Like a bowl of. And he's like, let's do that.
Joe Rogan
Let's scratch them up a lot first.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Let's drag them through gravel.
Tom Segura
There's wounds.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. All over their body. And then dunk them in a sewer, like.
Tom Segura
You got it, boss.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, infections are scary, man. I know a lot of people that get skin infections because of jiu jitsu.
Tom Segura
Oh, yeah, that's a big. It's a big thing.
Joe Rogan
Huge, huge thing. Mikey Musamichi just defended his UFC Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Why can't I say that? UFC BJJ title. And got hospitalized right afterwards with staff.
Tom Segura
Didn't, you know, Kyle Busch, the driver? He just died, and he died of sepsis. Right, but that's like a type of infection as well.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. How did he get that?
Jamie
I believe I already had pneumonia and then. Then didn't treat it and kept, you know, racing and got worse.
Joe Rogan
That's nuts.
Tom Segura
41, man.
Joe Rogan
That's nuts. It's nuts, man.
Tom Segura
Crazy.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Sepsis is crazy. One of my wife's friends from high school died of sepsis just a few years back.
Tom Segura
My dad got sepsis in the hospital. Yeah, like, he had. He had a bone marrow transplant and then got sepsis. Almost died.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, hospital infections are creepy, man, because, like, Joey Diaz, you know, he got his knee fixed and he said that. What does it say here? Timeline. Bush had been battling what is originally believed to be a sinus cold for a couple weeks, even radioing his crew to have a doctor meet him after a race at Watkins Glen. Despite continuing to race and win, less than a week before his death, his condition rapidly deteriorated. He collapsed and became unresponsive in a Chevrolet racing simulator in Concord, North Carolina. 911 caller noted that he was coughing up blood and had shortness of breath. He was transported to a Charlotte area hospital where he died.
Tom Segura
That is insane, man. That is so crazy, man.
Joe Rogan
But, you know Hamzat Chamayev, the. The guy who was the middleweight champion before Sean Strickland, just beat him.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
When he had Covid, he would not stop working out. He was training through Covid, like, bad. And he was hospitalized multiple, multiple times. Times. And he took a photograph of his toilet where he'd coughed blood into his toilet and was saying, I'm retiring. I'm not fighting anymore. I'm retiring from mma. And he posted. See if you can find the photograph.
Tom Segura
Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
On social media. He posted the photograph of his toilet with the blood in it. Yeah. Is told he may have cancer after coughing up blood in. In training, but it was.
Tom Segura
Because that was a while ago.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, years ago. He wouldn't stop training. Like, he's such an animal that while he had Covid, he would not stop training.
Tom Segura
Now, that was a huge upset, right?
Joe Rogan
It was an upset.
Tom Segura
It was an upset.
Joe Rogan
I thought it could happen that way. I, I was actually saying like a lot of people, like Ari was arguing with me on protect our Parks. He's like, you always say that when someone doesn't have a chance. You always hype it up. Like I think Strickland can win this fight because Strickland is like insanely durable. He's scary because he doesn't go away. He's not going to get tired. He doesn't go away. He's tough as hit. He was abused when he was young. So he's angry. Like he, he's, he's dangerous and he's super skillful, very hard to hit. And he, and he fought in one with a blown out shoulder.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he's crazy.
Joe Rogan
He his shoulder up like the week of the fight, like did something bad. He's coming and getting some stem cells at waste to.
Tom Segura
Well is he?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he he it up and he doesn't even know what it was. But he couldn't use it. Right. I could tell when he was warming up before the fight started. He was doing this with his arm, just doing this. Like he was warming up doing this and he kept doing this. And that's what you do when your arm hurts. Yeah. Like if you hurt your shoulder, like how bad is it hurt? Let me check, let me check real quick.
Tom Segura
And that's how he went into a fight.
Joe Rogan
Went to a world title fight against the scariest guy in the division and beat him with one arm.
Tom Segura
I saw him. That was like the day before, two days before something. He was like doing construction on his driveway. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Bro rides a motorcycle everywhere. World champion.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he just was went to that misfits. No. What is it called? Aiden Ross's thing that he does? He does something called. What does it call it? Brand something or not Brand Risk. He has people fight. Ray J, the guy who did the.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Porno with Kim Kardashian, he just got knocked the fuck out.
Tom Segura
Did you see the Post interview?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Tom Segura
He was like, what the fuck man? I thought we had a deal. Yeah, that was weird.
Joe Rogan
They made some sort of a deal apparently. Well, at least he was implying that the guy wasn't going to punch him in the face and knock him out.
Tom Segura
Well, the weird thing is if you watch, I feel like if you watch that again, the punch, none of it's like you're not watching pros, obviously. None of it seems like, it just seems kind of wild. And as he sees him stunned, he doesn't do what most people do when you stun somebody, which is follow up, right? He's kind of like, oh. Like it kind of. The body language lends itself to that theory. Like, he. He just was like.
Joe Rogan
And he's laughing, but he's also celebrating. He's like, ah, it. I knocked him out. Look how out of shape Ray J is too. That's a crazy thing to be accepting a fight when you're that out of shape. Super Hot Fire. That's the dude's name, Super Hot Fire.
Tom Segura
But see, he's just like.
Joe Rogan
Well, both guys look like they didn't know what they're doing, but he hit him with one shot and that was all it took. That's crazy. So they must have made some sort of a deal. They weren't gonna hurt each other and they were gonna do it for money. I wonder how much you paid him.
Tom Segura
That's so weird.
Jamie
Someone asked during the press conference they had, which I thought was true. Ray J said like a month or two ago he was dying of some heart disease or something really bad. And there was like, you're fighting. He's like, yeah, I'm going in here to die.
Tom Segura
You saw the Cam Newton thing, right?
Joe Rogan
Cam Newton?
Tom Segura
Yeah. With Ray J.
Joe Rogan
No.
Tom Segura
Oh, that's the best clip of the year on the Internet. What is it when Cam's like, are you gay? You haven't seen that?
Joe Rogan
No.
Tom Segura
Oh, it's the best.
Joe Rogan
When on Cam's podcast.
Tom Segura
Yes, it's the best. No, you got. You got. I can't do it justice.
Joe Rogan
Okay, okay.
Tom Segura
It's the best thing I've ever seen. And part of what's so great is that you know this. I know this from. From conducting interviews. There's a certain point in an interview when you're. That you're having with someone where if they start saying something, the best thing you can do is shut the up, you know?
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
Like, you can just go give him some air. And Cam just like, where does Cam. Cam is. Is 80 of the comedy, but it is the best. The full clip is just incredible. Is that the whole thing?
Jamie
So it's at least over a minute.
Willie Ray
Oh, you asked me that last time.
Joe Rogan
And I just.
Willie Ray
So I listen to like, Biggie Smalls. You like Biggie? Are you a fan of Biggie?
Joe Rogan
Can you just answer my question?
Tom Segura
He just said, are you gay?
Willie Ray
I have an analogy to it. There's something.
Joe Rogan
Can you answer yes or no and
Tom Segura
then go into that
Willie Ray
shout out to the gay G. Yes. What does it matter if I'm gay or not?
Joe Rogan
It doesn't matter. I just asking a question.
Willie Ray
It's People. People like people when they leave here, we're all together when you leave and it's done and it's a wrap for the day. Everybody's gonna do something. Everybody's gonna go to their prospective places. Some people are gonna go home and I hate to say this, but it's just gonna be grimy. But I'm sure there's people that go home. They got a dog, the favorite dog. They stop by the store, grab some peanut butter.
Joe Rogan
Lee Ray, how old are you?
Tom Segura
I'm 45.
Joe Rogan
You're 45 years old.
Tom Segura
In 45 years of living, have you ever been with a man? This is not the full version.
Jamie
Yeah, it cuts off.
Tom Segura
You cut off. It cut off the best part.
Jamie
Sorry.
Tom Segura
That's all right, man.
Joe Rogan
All right. Try to find the full version. It's.
Tom Segura
It's so fantastic.
Jamie
Well, it's a three hour podcast.
Tom Segura
That's why I know there's a. Maybe the 412 one.
Joe Rogan
Is it?
Tom Segura
Or maybe this. What is this? How long is this one?
Joe Rogan
This is. This Might be talking about having sex with women though. Said he's had sex with 11,500 women.
Willie Ray
It was a. It was a massive.
Joe Rogan
You're talking about different partners.
Tom Segura
What?
Willie Ray
Yeah. So we did a celebration booby trapped app.
Tom Segura
I would scroll, try to get to where we were.
Joe Rogan
Could go for how many times you've had sex.
Willie Ray
10,000 different people. I want to be at 99,000. I can only a thousand more. I can't do anymore.
Joe Rogan
But the average of of get really good bites.
Tom Segura
The volume of different sex partners.
Willie Ray
Some of my home girls. But I don't think like that's what's your body count?
Tom Segura
No, this isn't it.
Joe Rogan
No, that's not it. This is just a body count thing.
Tom Segura
If you go, if you go back back to your search. 412 there on that. That might be it. See that one? This might be it. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Some people go home, put peanut butter on themselves.
Tom Segura
It's so much better.
Joe Rogan
Okay. Just pass it past where we were.
Willie Ray
So people like people.
Tom Segura
Yeah, this, this.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, this. Scoot ahead a little bit.
Willie Ray
When they leave here all together,
Joe Rogan
it's
Willie Ray
like he's trying to grab some peanut butter.
Tom Segura
Watch this, right?
Willie Ray
Go home excited to see they dog. They put a bunch of peanut butter on their feet till the dog could lick it off. Some people even go further to watch TV on all fours, slap a little bit of peanut butter in the car, crack and enjoy theyel and the dog is having a good time. Right. I don't know what that Is it's none of my business.
Joe Rogan
Have you ever did it?
Jamie
He's not looking at him.
Joe Rogan
Have you ever did it?
Willie Ray
Have I ever had a dog lick my ass with peanut butter in it?
Tom Segura
No, he felt.
Willie Ray
But I'm familiar with it.
Joe Rogan
Okay, so Willy Ray.
Willie Ray
I'm familiar with it because I caught somebody doing it.
Tom Segura
Willie Ray got.
Willie Ray
I won't say no names, but Willie Ray. Yes.
Joe Rogan
How old are you?
Tom Segura
I'm 45.
Jamie
I'm 45.
Tom Segura
You're 45 years old. In 45 years of living, have you ever been with a man?
Joe Rogan
No, you have not.
Willie Ray
I. You have not. Is now you going into it?
Tom Segura
No, I'm not.
Joe Rogan
I'm just trying to confirm.
Willie Ray
Yeah, but I don't want to. But here's the thing. Thing. I sit on a gagency board. Pause. And I'm the only straight person on the board. But again, I have friends. Shout out to. To Rod. Shout out to dumping D. Shout out to back shot.
Joe Rogan
Dumping D. Back shot.
Willie Ray
And everybody else that. That supports the agency.
Joe Rogan
The gay agency. What is the gaygency?
Tom Segura
I have no idea. He's on the board.
Willie Ray
It's not an agency, it's a gay agency.
Tom Segura
Yeah, there you go.
Willie Ray
All things LGBTQ +I I I'm sorry just cuz you. I was already going there and then you looked up and I plus I But it's. I.
Tom Segura
Okay, cool. Cool.
Joe Rogan
Okay, cool.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Willie Ray
I didn't want to have to ask this, but it's fair. Are you gay?
Joe Rogan
No, sir. Okay.
Willie Ray
See?
Joe Rogan
And I've never experienced nobody getting licked. I'm just.
Tom Segura
But that.
Willie Ray
Ask some older people. Older people do that? No, I'm thinking like it's like 50, 55.
Joe Rogan
Older. Older people. Older people, they get their asshole by dogs.
Jamie
Just keep going.
Joe Rogan
No, we get it. I get it. Boy, he's insane.
Tom Segura
Isn't that great?
Joe Rogan
What a character. You should have him on your mom's house.
Tom Segura
I would love to have him explain
Joe Rogan
what the post fight speech was about.
Tom Segura
What was that about?
Jamie
Yeah, is he also the one that had the products with the glasses?
Tom Segura
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, dude.
Jamie
He's invented some of the world's best products. I don't know if you know about that.
Tom Segura
That's amazing, dude. It's amazing.
Joe Rogan
What is the, the post fight speech? See if you can find that. Because he said something really crazy. The way he said it was like very strange. Talking about.
Tom Segura
Yeah, he was like getting interviewed and then he's like, yo, man. Like literally he's like, I thought, I thought we weren't doing this.
Joe Rogan
I Don't want to get anybody in trouble.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Or anything. I thought we had a D deal.
Tom Segura
Which seems like if people were placing bets on that, that's a. Which they definitely were.
Joe Rogan
They had to. People place bets on everything.
Tom Segura
There was another fight. Manziel fought too, Right? Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Tom Segura
People had to be placing bets.
Joe Rogan
100. Absolutely.
Tom Segura
I mean, that's the way to get a visit from the FBI, I feel like. You know. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Well, it also seems like you're admitting to a crime, which is like, maybe it's just because you got a concussion.
Tom Segura
Yeah, sure. You could. I was just talking.
Joe Rogan
I don't know what I was saying. Yeah, I was talking crazy. I was trying to save face.
Tom Segura
Peanut butter in my ass. And I just didn't know what I was saying.
Joe Rogan
Pretending that I didn't know which I.
Jamie
In the ring or this.
Tom Segura
It was in the ring.
Jamie
Okay.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Jamie
There's a small part, but they cut it out. See.
Tom Segura
Yeah, that was.
Joe Rogan
Oh, here. Grand Risk event.
Willie Ray
And now the Internet thinks this whole thing.
Joe Rogan
Hold on. Don't talk to him. You don't deserve to talk to him. You don't got a good ass haircut.
Tom Segura
And then came here and got spun.
Joe Rogan
I thought we had a plan. What the.
Tom Segura
I thought we had a plan.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. There's more to it, though.
Jamie
This is not the best video to pull from.
Joe Rogan
I'm trying to find it. I think I have it here.
Tom Segura
Imagine getting your ass whooped by Super Hot Fire.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It's a great name.
Jamie
I know.
Joe Rogan
I got it, Jamie. Here, I'll send it to you.
Tom Segura
Joe, who knocked you out?
Joe Rogan
Super Hot Fire.
Tom Segura
That's pretty tight.
Joe Rogan
Well, you know, what are you gonna do? Yeah, I sent it to you. It's just bizarre the way he says it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
It's like you are either making excuse or this is the dumbest criminal ever. Ever got a plan.
Willie Ray
I don't want to say too much because I don't want to get nobody
Joe Rogan
in trouble, but damn.
Willie Ray
My. We. We took a l tonight.
Joe Rogan
We didn't take. Your ass was over here. I gotta talk to the. About y' all talk backstage.
Tom Segura
Super.
Joe Rogan
We didn't think you was gonna win.
Tom Segura
So how y' all lost money?
Joe Rogan
Why?
Willie Ray
Wow.
Joe Rogan
Yo.
Tom Segura
I mean, that seems real. As though.
Joe Rogan
That seemed very real.
Tom Segura
That seemed very real.
Joe Rogan
So they must have. Must have said, listen, I'm going to put a bunch of money on me to win. Yeah, you have me win. And he just. Look how much money we just lost. They were going to split the money.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Some Pulp Fiction right there, man.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, boy. We'll see.
Tom Segura
Super hot fire is like. Super hot fire doesn't take no money
Joe Rogan
for super hot fire Gets killed in the drive by. We know what's up.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Right now you can't even retaliate.
Tom Segura
That's nuts, dude.
Joe Rogan
I know. It's crazy that he admitted it publicly.
Tom Segura
It's like, very strange right in the moment.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, very strange. Very strange that he would. I just. I mean, maybe just got knocked out. Maybe he's never been knocked out before, and he was just, like, confused.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And that's why he said it. But it seems like that was real.
Tom Segura
That did seem very real.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And Super Hot fire wasn't like, what the are you talking about?
Tom Segura
He kind of just.
Joe Rogan
He's like, yeah, got the best. You can't take a shot got.
Tom Segura
Yeah. He's like, how much money we lost?
Joe Rogan
I wonder how much money they'll know. Like, they'll know bets. Yeah, 100%.
Tom Segura
And they'll also know, like, we got a few $200,000 bets that we should investigate. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You know, the UFC has had a real problem with that.
Tom Segura
Really?
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
In what way?
Joe Rogan
While they caught people, they caught suspicious betting. And then, like, the line changes, like, very quickly, and there's a bunch of money being dumped on one fighter, and then to. To lose in a very specific way, like the first round, and the fighter loses in the first round when they were the favorite. And then you find out that his coaches have been on him and other different people. So it looks like they dumped the fight.
Tom Segura
Wow.
Joe Rogan
Or maybe they went into the fight with a blown out knee and they knew it was blown out, and they said, I'm just gonna just put a bunch of money on me to lose. And they go out and fight and lose. So the FBI is involved, and so there's a bunch of different fights that are being investigated. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Tom Segura
There was that crazy doc about that college basketball one from years ago that was just incredible. And the way that it all fell apart was they just got too greedy, you know, because they had a guy who. I think he was the point guard maybe at ASU or something. And. And once they had him, you know, like, locked in on this, they just. And they realized he really could swing it how they wanted to. They started just betting crazy. And then, yeah, the FBI was looking at these betting lines and saying, like, oh, really? There's $2 million on this game from. From one per. Like, this is. They started to just get keyed in on it, and then the whole thing got exposed.
Joe Rogan
It's kind of funny that people don't think they're gonna get caught doing something like that.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Especially at that, like where you go like, oh, just all the money can go in and it's like, yeah, it's too much, man. You know, you probably could have gotten away with, with 25 grand or whatever, you know, like something that doesn't really ring alarms. But if you start putting seven figures down, you don't think anyone's gonna take a second look at that.
Joe Rogan
What are the rules? Like, what do you like, you can't dump a fight, but if you know someone's hurt, like say if I know someone's hurt and I'm like, ooh, I know he's hurt, I'm gonna put a bunch of money on him to lose. I wonder if that's legal. Is that insider trading?
Tom Segura
I don't think it is. I also feel like it's different. Maybe I'm wrong. If you are getting a bunch of people to do it versus you're doing it because you had, you know, I mean, because right. How could somebody, you can't be sure
Joe Rogan
that he's not going to still try to win.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Also it's like, did you put a five million dollar bet on it?
Joe Rogan
Right. Well, look at this way. Imagine if I found out that Strickland hurt his shoulder shoulder that week and I'm like, oh, his shoulder's blown out. I'm putting all the money on Hamza. And then I lost. DraftKings explicitly prohibits betting by insiders on sports or events where they have an unfair material or non public advantage. This applies to athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel and sportsbook employees using private information to gain a betting edge. But none of those people that they mentioned there, athletes, coaches, referees, team personnel. Now none of them is like your friends with a guy because you train at the same gym as him.
Tom Segura
That's true. That's not also this is saying that this private company can do this, but legally, is this a legal thing?
Jamie
Yeah, that's where I was when you brought up the $5 million bet. If they lose a big bet like that, you definitely got to assume they're going to look into like, well, who the was this when they make the bet? How many times have they done this? They get lucky one time.
Joe Rogan
Look at the Strickland fight. Like if you. So he was training with Johnny Eblin, who's the middleweight champ of the pfl. Badass, like beast, beast wrestler. And that's how he hurt his shoulder. And so like if you were there during those training sessions and you're like, oh, he's hurt. I'm gonna sneak away and put some money on it. I wonder if that's legal.
Tom Segura
I wonder if it is too because
Joe Rogan
first of all you would have lost because Strickland wound up winning anyway.
Tom Segura
Exploiting non public information, such as knowing a star player is injured before it is announced, can lead to criminal charges. Individuals caught coordinating insider betting schemes have faced federal felony charges including wire fraud, bribery and illegal gambling.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but how's it bribery?
Jamie
Depends on what.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. What the circumstances are. But if you were in that situation and you bet on Strickland to lose and he actually did lose and you knew. I want wonder. I wonder because in that fight he was the, the underdog anyway.
Tom Segura
That is kind of interesting. What is the legal threshold for public information? You know, because that's really what we're talking about.
Joe Rogan
I think that's about gambling in the stock market.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, do you see that thing that I sent you, Jamie?
Jamie
Yeah. And I.
Joe Rogan
Is that real?
Jamie
Well, it's. So that's a many things. Use that for statistics. That's things using percentages. So there's a chart Joe sent me about like the amount the S P has gone up versus Repository, Republicans and Democrats, and it's a percentage thing. Democrats are up with 900%, I think Republicans like 600%. The S&P was up like 508%. But percentages don't tell you like what you started with and what you ended with.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Jamie
You could have started with a hundred billion dollars and you made $1 billion and you made 1% versus someone who made $1 million. It doesn't sound the same. But they're not relative.
Joe Rogan
Right, but they did. When you look at the chart and you look at the difference between the Republicans and Democrats in terms of insider trading in Congress, they're are all doing it.
Tom Segura
They're all doing it.
Joe Rogan
That's why they can do it. Yeah, because they're all doing it. If it was only the Democrats, the Republicans be like, what the bro?
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But since they're all doing it, everybody's like, well there's a problem. There's no problem. I don't see nothing.
Jamie
Here's the chart. This is like an account that just takes data and makes charts out of it.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. So it's them doing better than the S and P always.
Jamie
But again, just using percentages is not a great way because somebody could say something went up 77% or went up 300%. It doesn't matter what you're talking about it sounds like a lot, but.
Tom Segura
Right.
Jamie
It might not be relative to what the actual number was.
Tom Segura
Well, that's really interesting that they're doing so well. This is also saying, like, your luck,
Jamie
people could just bet on Nvidia itself has gone up a shitload.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Jamie
If you just put money in Nvidia, you'd make.
Tom Segura
I'll say this. That's a tough thing to resist, to be sitting in Congress and you know
Joe Rogan
you're not going to get punished. Yeah. No one, I mean, a few people have been punished. Right. We looked that up the other day.
Jamie
Day.
Joe Rogan
A few blabber Mouse. Probably some outsider, some that they were like, him. Throw him under the bus. Yeah, they probably had a few guys they threw under the bus.
Tom Segura
And it's probably somebody that didn't have a portfolio.
Joe Rogan
Didn't Trump do a lot of, like, stock purchases?
Tom Segura
He's made a fortune. He's made a fortune.
Jamie
They made a settlement with the irs.
Tom Segura
I think that's why a lot of
Jamie
it came out recently. But, like, he can't be charged with anything or.
Tom Segura
Yeah, they can't be. The latest thing is that he and his kids and his company cannot be audited.
Joe Rogan
Oh, that's cool.
Tom Segura
That is cool. That's my settlement.
Joe Rogan
What was the settlement? What was the IRS being sued for? What was the accusation?
Tom Segura
It was for the leak of his tax returns.
Joe Rogan
Okay, so the IRS leaked his tax returns.
Tom Segura
Yeah. He said they were reckless and.
Willie Ray
Yeah.
Jamie
Settlement of his 10 billion dollar lawsuit.
Joe Rogan
2018 leak of his tax returns. New York Times. The. In the US Is forever barred and precluded from examining or prosecuting Trump, his sons, and the Trump Organization's current tax filings, according to one page document released Tuesday. That is so crazy. Imagine like somebody accused you of murder.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And it turns out you weren't guilty of that murder. And then you sue them. You go, you can never prosecute me for murder again. And then you just go, go straight Uday Hussein. Yeah.
Tom Segura
And they're like, it's cool. Yeah, it's fine.
Joe Rogan
Oh, that's.
Tom Segura
Now here's the only thing that the detail of that are. Is. Is part of that settlement that says that, like the language that they cannot be for their current tax filings. Does that mean, though, that in the future, future filings also fall under that immunity?
Joe Rogan
Oh, go back, Go back, please. This is crazy. Like, go back to the top of the. That right there. Under the sentiment to resolve Trump's $10 billion lawsuit over the 2018 link, leak of his tax returns. To the New York Times, the US Is forever barred and precluded. But now look at the end that it was quietly added to the original establishment, original settlement, establishing a $1.8 billion fund to compensate people who Trump thinks were improperly investigated by the government.
Jamie
January 6th fund, I believe.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Jamie
They're paying for all of their legal fees.
Tom Segura
Whoa. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But 1.8 billion is probably more than their legal fees, I would imagine.
Tom Segura
Yeah. It's also going to be for like, you know, I was, I was compensation.
Joe Rogan
So do they get compensated?
Tom Segura
They're all, they're all filing, you know, making claims. Are they? Yeah, well, a lot of them are making claims. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Well, here's what's for sure. There were government. Government people that were rabble rousers. There were people that were trying to get people to go into the Capitol. That's a fact. How many? There's, they call them agent provocateurs. Right. So there's people that your tax dollars pay that were trying to get people to commit crimes. We don't know how many.
Tom Segura
We don't know. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And supposedly. No, they were just there to monitor. Really. Okay. But we know that people have done that in the past where they've encouraged people to commit crimes.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And we do know that there was some knowledge that this was going to happen and that they, they wanted it to happen. They wanted to happen exactly that way. And they encourage people to do it so they can make it look like Donald Trump is a real threat.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And keep him from running for reelection again.
Tom Segura
That didn't work out.
Joe Rogan
The whole thing is crazy. Like, imagine that there are government employees with government tax dollars. They're being paid, and they're being paid to encourage people to commit crimes they would have never committed without it. We know that's a fact. That's a real thing.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
There's a guy in Dallas who was 19 years old that they tricked into detonating a fake bomb. They radicalized him, gave him a cell phone, gave him a bomb.
Tom Segura
The feds, the fed heads. Jesus.
Joe Rogan
They, they made him a jihadist. So he goes to detonate the bomb. It's not a real bomb anyway. And then lock him up in jail forever. They give him the bomb. They give him the cell phone to detonate the bomb. They talk him into doing it, the whole deal.
Tom Segura
And there's not going to be any. They're just like, that's done.
Joe Rogan
Was it. How about that lady in. What was it? Michigan? Which state was it where the. They. There was 14 people that were trying to kidnapper. Turns out 12 of them were FBI informants.
Tom Segura
What the.
Joe Rogan
Really? Yes. Yes. It was Michigan.
Tom Segura
Right.
Joe Rogan
What is that lady's name?
Jamie
The Whitmer.
Joe Rogan
Governor Whitmer. 14 people involved in this kidnapping plot. 12 of them were FBI informants. So it's like a whole crew of FBI fed with the goal of what? Of arresting these two suckers, these two retards that think it's a good idea to play along with these dorks. And these guys were like, we thought we were just talking shit. Yeah.
Tom Segura
Now they're locked up. Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Sorry. But I mean, that's. They spent money on this. It's like your tax dollars go to try to trick people into doing a crime that you know they're going to do and they're never going to be able to do because you're going to arrest them before they go to do it.
Tom Segura
It sucks as a criminal to think that you have to really doubt who you're working with, you know?
Joe Rogan
Hard times.
Tom Segura
It's hard, man. I thought we were gonna have some fun. Turns out you're a snitch.
Joe Rogan
Maybe that could be an episode of. Yeah, yeah. Next season.
Tom Segura
Good one.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's a good one. Right?
Tom Segura
Fun one.
Joe Rogan
That's actually a very good one. There's probably a lot of room for comedy in that.
Tom Segura
Tons.
Joe Rogan
It's just crazy because it's like they have to. This. This is the problem. And it's not entirely. It is their first fault that they did that, but it's not entirely their fault because they have to make arrests. You want another one or are you good?
Tom Segura
No, I'm good, thanks.
Joe Rogan
If you want to have a career, your career is dependent upon you making arrests.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You know, this is the stuff that I've worked with Josh Dubin, with the wrongfully prosecuted and convicted people. One of the things you find out is that a lot of these prosecutors, what it is, is they want to boost up their career by getting cases handled.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
They wanted. They want to arrest people. They want those people to be convicted. That makes them look good. So they just monkey around with the evidence.
Tom Segura
This feels like. Like a traffic cop meeting his quota, you know?
Joe Rogan
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Tom Segura
Yeah. You didn't use your blinker and you're like, what the are you doing, man?
Joe Rogan
Dude, I had a guy pull me over and then he recognized me and let me go, but he pulled me over and said that I crossed the white line. And I was like, what? And he goes. He was. He followed me. Like, the moment I left where I was at, he was on my ass, like, immediately. So I saw across the white. Like. So he's. I was in my little loud BMW, my little E46, and it's, you know, probably like, look at this douchebag.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, yeah, he's probably drunk.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Thankfully, I was completely sober. But he pulls me over and he's like, I saw you cross the white line back there. I go, really? I go, okay. I go, I don't think I did, but. And he goes, joe Rogan. And then like, oh, it's. I'm just looking for drunks. I'm like, okay, well, I'm not drunk.
Tom Segura
So he was just gonna try to.
Joe Rogan
I think they have a quota. I think they have a quota, and I think, like, they have to make arrests, and maybe they pull you over and they realize you're not drunk, and so they just inconvenience you for five minutes and they'll let you go.
Tom Segura
I had one of those.
Joe Rogan
I've had that happen before.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I dropped my phone once when I was on the highway in la, and I reached down in between my legs to pick up my phone, and I must have, like, moved to one. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, I got out. I gotta do the whole thing and touch my nose, the whole deal.
Tom Segura
This guy accused me of. The cop accused me of trying to ditch him, too. He's like, you try to ditch me? And I was like, what? He goes, you took a right here. And I was like, that's because I'm going this way. Like, I made it right, because I'm going this way. He's like, where are you going? I was, I'm going to my mom's house. He was like, where she lived? Yeah. I was like, up here. Then it left. And he was like, all right. He's like, he tried to get away
Joe Rogan
one time, this guy in a truck didn't see me and totally turned into my lane, and I had to go into the. I mean, I was. I was in a Tesla. Luckily, it was fast, so I avoided it and shot back into my lane ahead of him. But it was like this guy came, like, inches away from hitting me, and I had to go into the opposite lane to pass him. And then I had. There was no one in the opposite lane. Yeah, I did it. And then all of a sudden, the lights come on, and he goes, I saw you pass that guy back there. And he goes, you smell like liquor. I go, I have. I'm not. I haven't drank a single drop of alcohol. I do Not. He goes, you smell like liquor. I go, no, I don't. And he goes, joe Rogan. I go, yeah. I go, what are you doing, man? I go, I go, go. Look at your. Can you have a camera right on your car. I go, go. Look at what happened. And so he looks at it, I go, that guy almost fucking hit me. And he goes, oh, I just saw it. Yeah, he almost hit me.
Tom Segura
You.
Joe Rogan
He goes, hey, man, I love ufc.
Tom Segura
Like, okay, cool, cool.
Joe Rogan
But, like, you didn't. You were pretending I was drunk. You're pretending you smelled liquor.
Tom Segura
Somebody else would have had a real hard time with that.
Joe Rogan
The. The I smell liquor was infuriating. I'm like, come on, dude, I'm coming.
Tom Segura
So upsetting.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I think it was coming from, like, somewhere innocuous, like the gym or something. I was like, what do you. What the Is wrong with you? Yeah, you're saying you smell liquor. You definitely don't smell like you're just being an ass. Yeah, but they have a quota. They have a quota. It's like, imagine being them, like, hey, Tom, haven't met your quota. What would they. What would they do if no one. If we. We all just said, hey, this quota thing is everybody for the next month. Never speed. Always use your blinker, Stop at every stoplight.
Tom Segura
They would come up with something else.
Joe Rogan
What the. Would they do?
Tom Segura
Yeah, they would. They would come up with. There'd be a new. Something would change in the law that would be illegal, that people were doing. Doing.
Joe Rogan
But if no one's. If. So, it's just speeding. Let's say speeding. If no one sped for a month, what the Would they do?
Tom Segura
I mean, they would. They would pinch people for something else. They just absolutely would.
Joe Rogan
That's crazy.
Tom Segura
It generates too much revenue.
Joe Rogan
But isn't that crazy to think that the cops. The serve and protect, they're supposed to be. That they're glorified revenue collectors.
Tom Segura
When you see these. The. These police departments that they investigate for being. Being super corrupt, like, the level of corruption in some of them is mind blowing. Like, no, there was even that chief. The chief that was. And I think it was in Jersey that was just, like, tormenting the entire department. He'd shave his back on people's desk, stick a hypodermic needle in their leg, put Viagra in the coffee. He's just, like, with everybody. Yeah, he was like, tormenting people.
Joe Rogan
Where was that?
Tom Segura
In Jersey? Jersey. That's definitely stuck.
Joe Rogan
A hypodermic needle.
Tom Segura
Yeah, dude. He was absolutely crazy.
Joe Rogan
Just as he had power huh?
Tom Segura
Yeah. He was going.
Joe Rogan
He was going, what is it about people that have power over people where they just like 8 out of 10 times abuse it?
Tom Segura
I don't know. That's like, all the dictator stuff I've been reading is like, why are you
Joe Rogan
reading so much about dictators?
Tom Segura
I don't. The stories are just so wild. The idiomine thing was just. Is so crazy. Again, like, came from extreme poverty, neglected by his father, humiliated by the British, then joins the battalion by the. Like, to work with the same people that humiliated him, came to power, and then became a complete megalomaniac. I mean, and also, you see, one thing you see in all these dictators is such extreme paranoia, Know, because when you operate in a place of wanting to instill fear, you feel fear, you know?
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
So they're all super paranoid, man.
Joe Rogan
I wonder if Uday was paranoid. Probably not.
Tom Segura
That's a good question.
Joe Rogan
I mean, he probably had so much power that he didn't have to be.
Tom Segura
His pops is paranoid. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. His own son's gonna kill him.
Tom Segura
The. The. The Kim's super paranoid, you know?
Jamie
Oh, yeah.
Tom Segura
All of them.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they have to be.
Tom Segura
Yeah. Because you just, Just, you know, you're in such fear, and you just instill fear and then you go, some, someone's. And they're right because people are turning on them. There's all these, like, attempts on their life.
Jamie
Well, says his brother Kus.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Hours before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Kouse withdrew approximately $1 billion in cash. In cash, 100 bills.
Tom Segura
What?
Jamie
Yeah, right here.
Joe Rogan
900 million in $100 bills. The equivalent of 100 million in euros. Loaded them into three tractor trailers and left. So $100 million in euros and $900 million in $100 bills. And loaded in a tractor. Considered the largest bank heist in history.
Jamie
Got there at 4am Wait a minute.
Tom Segura
Also, it says until 2011, personal orders from his dad.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but is that his money or anybody's money? Whoever's money, it is.
Tom Segura
But, bro, what's the bank heist in 2011 that surpassed passes that.
Joe Rogan
I think that's the English one. Oh, is that the one says $6
Jamie
billion in Iraq missing, but have been stolen.
Joe Rogan
Oh, what's that one? But this just makes sense, man. It's like whenever there's a war, whenever there's chaos, there's a bunch of people that are gonna steal some money.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Iraq wants its money back. Los Angeles Times this. It's that some of the officials in. In Baghdad have Threatened to take the US Government to court port to reclaim the missing loot. Good luck. Good luck with that. They'll start bombing you again. They'll find some more weapons of mass destruction.
Jamie
Love says it was u. S. Taxpayer dollars.
Joe Rogan
Oh, of course. Of course they should. While they're looking for that, look for the 24 billion that they spent on the homeless in California. This is like everywhere you look, there's people stealing money in. Where do you think he ways the
Tom Segura
billion that he put into tractors ended up though? Like, I like how it just ends. He put it into tractors. End of story. Right. Where'd it go? Where did that go? Because he was killed shortly thereafter.
Joe Rogan
Right. Where's that money?
Tom Segura
It's a lot of money.
Joe Rogan
That's a lot of cash. 12 billion in cash was flown into Iraq at 21 separate C130 flights in May of 2004. That's why they like going to war. That's why these like going to war. Because for sure you can get some the of that.
Tom Segura
You're going to rain cash, bro.
Joe Rogan
Some of that's yours.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
If you and I are running some defense contracting company like, listen, Tommy, that yacht you got your eye on.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Here it is.
Tom Segura
Here it is, bro.
Joe Rogan
Here it is.
Tom Segura
Let's drop a few bombs. Let's do it.
Joe Rogan
100 million.
Tom Segura
Let's do it.
Joe Rogan
That's a drop in the bucket for this operation.
Jamie
It's a very similar claim.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Afghanistan's Taliban displays pallets of cash received for humanitarian aid. Yeah. They just give them cash? Yeah. They just give them cash? Yeah. Look at that. Bricks of it. Look at what it looks like.
Jamie
A million in cash.
Joe Rogan
Oh, nothing.
Jamie
There you go.
Tom Segura
Jesus, don't.
Joe Rogan
This is what Tim Burchette was saying, that we give him that every month.
Jamie
Yeah. This is why I found that. This article, this one here.
Tom Segura
Look at that packaging, bro.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, we send that to them every month. American tax dollars.
Tom Segura
And then we go do the right thing.
Joe Rogan
And then we're like, we don't have any money to fix the streets. We don't have any money to pay teachers. But we have 40 million a month for the Taliban.
Tom Segura
I wish you would talk to whoever's in charge of infrastructure in this city to fix some of these streets.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They're not gonna listen to me.
Tom Segura
There's so many potholes.
Joe Rogan
A lot of potholes, dude.
Tom Segura
And just destroyed even in residential areas. The street is up, man.
Joe Rogan
I know. I wonder why they don't fix that.
Tom Segura
I don't know either.
Joe Rogan
It's not like it's not money around here.
Tom Segura
Oh, yeah?
Joe Rogan
Well, maybe get Spencer proud if he loses in LA to run for mayor of Austin.
Tom Segura
Come to Austin, bro. We could use you.
Joe Rogan
Has he got a chance in la? What do you think?
Tom Segura
I think anyone's got a chance. I think. I think if you put together a campaign that gets some excitement and people talking, you have a chance in la. I really do like that city. The people there are desperate. They're desperate and also they live for entertainment. So entertain him a little, right?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he's entertaining.
Tom Segura
He's entertaining as shit.
Joe Rogan
You see one of the things he's doing, he's putting a stencil down on the streets and power washing Spencer Pratt for mayor into the dirty streets.
Tom Segura
No. Is he really?
Joe Rogan
So he's clever. Putting it on the sidewalk and the sidewalks are so disgusting that if you put the stencil down and power wash it.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You could see it clearly.
Tom Segura
I mean, I. If you think that that guy doesn't have a chance, I would remind you that our president is a reality show host.
Joe Rogan
You know, I think he's good. I think his ideas are good. I think Spencer, I've had him in here, he's got some good ideas. I mean, he definitely wants to stop all this camp.
Tom Segura
He's running against the incumbent or who. How many people is he running?
Joe Rogan
The incumbent and another woman, you know, but he's running as a Republican.
Tom Segura
How's he probably.
Joe Rogan
I don't know. Probably not.
Jamie
Well, Kalshi, the trading market, he's in
Joe Rogan
second place behind her. Behind Karen Bass. Imagine that she burned down the entire Pacific Palisades by not having any water in the hydrants, not having any water in the reservoirs. And they're like, yeah, but, but let's give her another chance.
Tom Segura
Yeah, she was busy.
Joe Rogan
She didn't have time to save all those houses. Aren't you glad you sold your house for it? Burnt to a crisp.
Tom Segura
It's really crazy. I did a fundraiser show a couple weeks ago in Aladina.
Joe Rogan
Altadena is even a worse situation because those people don't have any money.
Tom Segura
I know. It's really.
Joe Rogan
A lot of them, working class families lost everything.
Tom Segura
I saw. I haven't been to my old street, but I saw a video. It's. It just looks like a. Like a bomb. Like a bomb went off. Yeah, it was really crazy.
Joe Rogan
I'm glad we moved, dude. Yeah, I'm glad. I'm really glad you didn't lose your house.
Tom Segura
Me too, man. That would have just been. I feel. I really do feel for the people that did. It's.
Joe Rogan
I know quite a few.
Tom Segura
Horrific.
Joe Rogan
I know quite a few.
Tom Segura
Yeah, I do. I do.
Joe Rogan
One of my good friend Matt, he lost his place.
Tom Segura
It's really sad.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Anyway, dude, your show's awesome.
Tom Segura
Thanks.
Joe Rogan
On Netflix right now. It's really, really funny.
Tom Segura
Thanks so much. It's.
Joe Rogan
It's just so preposterous and so irreverent and. And again, shout out to Netflix. We're having the cajones.
Tom Segura
Yes. Thank you, Netflix.
Joe Rogan
Thank you. Thank you so much to do that show.
Tom Segura
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
All right. Go watch it. I love you, buddy.
Tom Segura
Love you, too.
Joe Rogan
Thank you very much. Bye, everybody. See you. Your next chapter in healthcare starts at
Tom Segura
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Joe Rogan
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Tom Segura
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Joe Rogan
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Tom Segura
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Joe Rogan
Edu Sci.
Date: May 25, 2026
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Tom Segura (Comedian, writer, actor)
In this wide-ranging episode, Joe Rogan and Tom Segura reunite for a hilarious and deeply conversational session. The pair discuss Tom’s wild new Netflix show, transformations in the comedy and entertainment business, wild historical stories (especially brutal dictators), technological change (AI), dark societal trends, and, of course, an abundance of car and comedy talk. The discussion blends humor, philosophy, and real talk about creativity, human nature, and the weirdness of modern times.
[00:14–01:03] / [98:36–101:41]
Memorable Quote:
"It's so obvious that it's your imagination because no one would think of these things." — Joe Rogan [98:39]
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[02:04–02:55]
[03:13–08:19]
[12:29–18:30]
[30:26–38:32]
[43:05–50:47]
[83:38–94:59, scattered throughout]
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[150:04–154:17]
[123:17–124:14, 163:52–end]
On creative freedom:
“They give us no restraints in the craziest, greatest sense. Like, they really are like, do whatever you want to do.”
— Tom Segura [00:55]
On dictatorship and trauma:
“Usually when you see, like, these really horrifically violent people as adults, there's almost always childhood trauma and neglect.”
— Tom Segura [13:27]
On AI-induced anxiety for graduates:
“Imagine if you were graduating from college right now and you had no idea what your future is going to be... and then all of a sudden there's this thing... that can replace everybody that's done everything ever.”
— Joe Rogan [32:36]
On OnlyFans AI models:
“They're making a lot of money. And they have a whole team of people that respond to all these sad guys.” — Joe Rogan [31:22]
On Netflix’s willingness to let edgy comedy happen:
“But the thing is they're not ideologically captured... they'll let you go ham.” — Joe Rogan [100:47]
On comic’s success rates:
“What do you think it is? Is it 1 in 500 maybe, that become a professional?”
— Joe Rogan [44:33]
On Canadian MAID program:
“5.1% of all deaths in the country.”
— Joe Rogan (on medically assisted suicide) [108:13]
Joe Rogan and Tom Segura riff with absurdity, unfiltered honesty, and moments of dark humor. The episode moves fluidly from belly laughs to genuine social commentary and personal anecdotes, wrapping deep cultural issues in accessible, conversational storytelling. Both men’s fascination with extreme stories—whether comedy, crime, dictatorship, or wild science—is on full display.
If you enjoy meandering, uncensored long-form conversations blending comedy, history, tech, and culture—with plenty of sidebars into cars and the comedy grind—this episode is essential listening. Tom Segura’s Netflix show is a recurring thread, and Joe’s curiosity about the world guarantees an unpredictable, entertaining ride.
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