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Episode: Ring Enables Shared Facial Profiles for Multi-User Households
Host: Jaden Schaefer
Date: December 10, 2025

Overview

In this episode, host Jaden Schaefer discusses the rollout of Amazon Ring’s new AI-powered facial recognition feature, "Familiar Faces." He examines how the technology works, its practical benefits for users, and the considerable privacy concerns it raises—especially in light of Amazon’s history and current tech regulation climate. The episode offers both an overview of the feature and a critical look at reactions from consumer groups, lawmakers, and the general public.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What is the New Ring Feature? (00:52)

• "Amazon's new ring doorbells is going to be able to identify any visitors that come to your front door through a new AI powered facial recognition feature. This is kind of controversial. They're calling this new feature Familiar Faces."
  – Jaden Schaefer [01:07]
• The feature allows users to catalogue up to 50 recognizable faces—such as family, friends, neighbors, delivery people, or staff.
• Setting up a profile requires users to label a screenshot (face) in the app.
• Personalized notifications can then be customized (e.g., "Mom is at the front door") instead of generic alerts.
• Notifications can be set up individually per face so users can mute routine family alerts or receive updates only for unfamiliar visitors.

2. User Experience & Controls (02:21)

• "It's kind of annoying to have 100 'a person is at your front door' notifications, especially from people that are just like your family... So you could turn on notifications for each of them."
  – Jaden Schaefer [02:34]
• Feature is not enabled by default; users must proactively activate it in app settings.
• Provides tools for merging duplicates, editing, or deleting facial profiles.
• Unnamed faces are deleted automatically after 30 days.
• All face data is encrypted, according to Amazon.

3. Privacy Concerns & Pushback (03:30)

• Significant concerns due to Amazon and Ring’s past privacy failures and relationships with law enforcement.
• "A lot of people are concerned about some privacy of having this facial recognition basically looking at every single person that comes to your house, and especially when you think of how many Ring cameras there are around."
  – Jaden Schaefer [03:50]
• The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and Senator Ed Markey (Massachusetts) have publicly opposed the rollout.
• Fears about the potential for mass facial recognition and surveillance, especially if coupled with the scale of Ring’s installed user base.
• History of law enforcement access:
  • Direct data requests from police departments via the Neighbors app.
  • Potential for bypassing user consent in data sharing with authorities.
• "It feels sort of like, well, this is my doorbell, this is my camera I set up... instead of knocking on my door and asking me if they could see my footage, [they could] go straight to Amazon and get footage off of something that feels like mine."
  – Jaden Schaefer [05:52]

4. Historical Data Breaches & Regulatory Issues (06:05)

• Instances of severe privacy lapses by Amazon and Ring, including:
  • Alexa audio data mix-up stories (people receiving recordings that weren’t theirs).
  • Ring’s $5.8 million federal fine in 2023 after employees and contractors accessed customer videos without restriction.
  • Exposure of home addresses and precise locations.
  • User passwords appearing on the dark web.
• Related privacy laws prevent the rollout in Illinois, Texas, Portland, and Oregon, showing concern cuts across political lines.
• "I will say like, in my opinion, people should be allowed to use this if they want it and people that don't want to should be allowed to not use it."
  – Jaden Schaefer [08:26]

5. Data Processing & Future Implications (08:50)

• Amazon claims biometric data is processed in the cloud and not used to train AI models.
• The system will not geotag faces or allow searching for people across all Ring cameras, despite the network enabling similar functions for finding pets (“Search Party” feature).
• Ongoing concerns about potential for feature creep or expansion into neighborhood or citywide surveillance.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On utility vs. intrusion:
  "Yes, this sounds sort of useful. I will mention to Amazon's credit it's not enabled by default... But a lot of people are concerned about some privacy."
  [03:30]
• On personal control:
  "You are by default opted out of this. You don't have to enable it if you do have a Ring camera."
  [07:47]
• On regulatory patchwork:
  "People don't typically want a camera with facial recognition tracking everyone that comes in and out of the homes all around them. If you are like a super privacy person then you can move to one of those four states."
  [08:24]
• On Amazon’s assurances:
  "Amazon said that users biometric data is going to be processed in the cloud and they claim that it is not going to be used to train AI models."
  [08:55]

Key Timestamps

• 00:52–02:30 – Feature introduction and how it works for users
• 03:20–05:00 – Early privacy concern discussion, Ring’s relationship with law enforcement
• 05:10–07:00 – Amazon’s data sharing history, regulatory scrutiny
• 07:40–08:50 – Opt-in controls, legal and geographic limitations
• 08:52–end – Technical/data assurances and speculation about future implications

Tone & Takeaways

Jaden maintains an informative, balanced, and gently skeptical tone throughout the episode. He recognizes the feature’s practical upsides while foregrounding the persistent privacy risks and Amazon’s checkered history. The episode stands as both a practical explainer for curious users and a warning for the privacy-conscious.

For listeners seeking to understand both the promise and peril of Amazon’s AI facial recognition—and how it fits into the evolving surveillance landscape—this episode offers a thoughtful, well-researched guide.