#2224 - Tim Dillon

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience #2224 - Tim Dillon

Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Tim Dillon
Episode Title: The Joe Rogan Experience
Episode Number: #2224

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Introduction

In episode #2224 of The Joe Rogan Experience, comedian and social commentator Tim Dillon joins Joe Rogan for an in-depth conversation covering a wide range of topics, including the upcoming U.S. election, media influence, societal changes, technology, and the future of humanity. Their dynamic discussion offers listeners a blend of humor, critical analysis, and speculative insights into contemporary issues.

Political Landscape and the Upcoming Election

Joe and Tim kick off the discussion by delving into the current political climate, particularly focusing on the implications of Donald Trump's potential loss in the upcoming election.

Tim Dillon [00:50]: "If Trump loses, we're gonna have to hide him. We're gonna have to pay a cartel to shelter him for a period of years."

They explore scenarios where Trump might relocate to Canada to avoid political fallout, emphasizing the volatility surrounding election outcomes.

Joe Rogan [01:14]: "He could just emerge as the left wing. Just completely do a 180 total."

Media Influence and Bias

The conversation shifts to the role of media in shaping public perception and perpetuating conspiracy theories. Joe and Tim critique how media outlets often manipulate narratives, particularly those involving minority groups.

Joe Rogan [01:56]: "It's like one of the symptoms of a collapsing civilization. They start blaming things on Jews."

They discuss the media's tendency to label dissenting opinions as misinformation, thereby controlling the narrative and suppressing alternative viewpoints.

Food Culture and Lifestyle

Joe and Tim transition to a lighter topic, comparing high-end dining experiences with fast food culture. They critique the trend of overindulgence in gourmet meals that prioritize presentation over substance.

Joe Rogan [02:53]: "I need just a giant fucking hunk of meat."

This segment highlights their preference for straightforward, hearty meals over elaborate culinary creations that can detract from the dining experience.

Societal Changes Post-COVID

The duo reflects on how the COVID-19 pandemic has altered societal norms, particularly in terms of appreciating life and recognizing the fragility of the modern world.

Joe Rogan [06:24]: "We feel united, we were compassionate. We truly loved each other."

They discuss the stark contrast between the united front seen in countries like Israel versus the relative detachment in the U.S., underscoring the pandemic's impact on collective empathy and societal resilience.

Election Interference and Media Suppression

A significant portion of the conversation addresses allegations of election interference, focusing on the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story and the broader implications of media collusion with intelligence agencies.

Joe Rogan [10:18]: "You say that, but if Kamala Harris wins and Liz Cheney takes over the CIA, we might have a chance."

They express skepticism about the integrity of the electoral process, suggesting that media and intelligence agencies have a vested interest in shaping election outcomes.

Kamala Harris and Democratic Leadership

Tim criticizes Kamala Harris's campaign strategy, which he perceives as centered around "joy" rather than substantive policy issues. They debate the effectiveness of her approach and its impact on the Democratic Party's prospects.

Tim Dillon [27:20]: "The platform is joy. And there's people right now that can't feed their kids... our joy is our work."

Joe concurs, highlighting how Kamala's focus on maintaining a positive image may alienate voters concerned with pressing economic and social issues.

Real Estate and Foreign Investments

The discussion turns to foreign investments in U.S. real estate, particularly focusing on Chinese investments and their impact on housing markets through practices like money laundering and the creation of "ghost apartments."

Tim Dillon [30:07]: "The average sale price, $9.8 million... It's unbelievably manipulated by a lot of wealthy people."

They explore how these investments drive up property prices, making housing unaffordable for average Americans and facilitating illicit financial activities.

Surveillance and Technology

Joe and Tim express concerns about cybersecurity, the influence of Chinese technology companies like Huawei, and the ethical implications of emerging technologies such as AI and neural interfaces.

Tim Dillon [45:05]: "But they're very good at it. Corporate espionage. They're incredibly good at it."

They discuss the potential threats posed by foreign surveillance and the integration of AI into governmental and societal structures, contemplating a future where artificial intelligence plays a dominant role in governance.

Cultural Shifts and Identity Politics

The conversation delves into the erosion of individualism in favor of tribalism and identity politics. They critique how societal divisions are exacerbated by political agendas that prioritize group identity over common ground.

Tim Dillon [112:50]: "All of those policies inevitably take power and ownership away from people and reappropriate that and redistribute it to wealthier people, the government and big corporations, 100%."

Joe adds that the relentless focus on identity politics undermines meaningful discourse and fosters an environment of division and hostility.

Future of Humanity and AI

In a speculative turn, Joe and Tim envision a future dominated by AI and technology, where humans might evolve into more machine-integrated beings. They discuss the potential loss of biological aspects and the ethical quandaries of such advancements.

Joe Rogan [152:44]: "We become those things that we see that people keep seeing even if they're not real."

They ponder the implications of surpassing human capabilities with AI, considering both the technological marvels and the existential risks.

Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Tim Dillon provides a critical lens on contemporary issues, challenging mainstream narratives and advocating for a return to traditional values and transparent governance. Joe Rogan facilitates a thought-provoking dialogue, blending skepticism with genuine curiosity about the future of society and technology.

Joe Rogan [127:22]: "We are becoming a different species. We're becoming a different thing."

Listeners are left with a comprehensive examination of the forces shaping today's world, encouraging introspection and informed discourse on the path forward.

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Note: The timestamps provided are indicative and align with the flow of the conversation for reference purposes.

Transcript

[Joe Rogan]

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

[Tim Dillon]

The Joe Rogan Experience.

[Jamie]

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[Joe Rogan]

It's the end of the world as we know it. How you feeling?

[Tim Dillon]

I'm feeling good. Thank you for having. I heard you were having a problem getting big guests and things were not going good. And I said, hey, I'll fly in and I'll help. I'm always here to help.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, we were talking about doing a live show at the Mothership, but then somebody told a Puerto Rican joke. We're like, maybe that's not a good idea.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I mean, it was. You know, it might have been. We don't know. It could have been interesting. Could have been.

[Joe Rogan]

It would have been fun, but could have been fine, whatever. What are you gonna do? Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's election. It's election day.

[Joe Rogan]

If. If Trump loses, he's on suicide watch.

[Tim Dillon]

If Trump loses, we're gonna have to hide him. We're gonna have to pay a cartel to shelter him for a period of years.

[Joe Rogan]

They'll take him in Canada. He can just move up to Canada.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Sort of change his rhetoric a little bit. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

No, if Trump loses, it definitely. He definitely will have to kind of tone it down. You know, you might have to move it around a little bit, survey the scene.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. You know, probably not a lot of Puerto Ricans in Canada.

[Tim Dillon]

He could be a hero on the other side, though.

[Joe Rogan]

That's true. He could just emerge as the, you know, left wing. Just. Just completely do like a 180 total. Seeing the light flip. The scriptivity is super important.

[Tim Dillon]

Say, I did this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Kamala was me.

[Joe Rogan]

I knew that was going to happen.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

That's why I told those jokes. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, the funniest thing is that people going, that he's a Hollywood plant. Like, those people, they're like, he was a Hollywood plant, you know?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Those. Those people are hilarious. Every now and then, I'll come across a comment of people that think there's some grand conspiracy, like, we're all being.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Puppet mastered.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Manipulate Jews that they think the Jews are the Jews.

[Tim Dillon]

It always gets to the Jews. It'll start somewhere and then goes to the Jews.

[Joe Rogan]

I forget who told me this, but it's like one of the symptoms of a collapsing civilization. They start blaming things on Jews. Yeah. It's like one of them is they get very obsessed with gender. And then the other one is they start blaming Jews. The other thing is both of those.

[Tim Dillon]

Right now, they make celebrities out of chefs. Like, they get very decadent. This happened in Rome.

[Joe Rogan]

And there's really.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Like, they. They like people that provide you these comforts, become celebrities, because you're just living.

[Joe Rogan]

So much comfort, living a decadent lifestyle. And I never considered that. That's so.

[Tim Dillon]

That's one of the things that people say is, like a harbinger of the apocalypse is, like, celebrity chefs, people just focusing way too much on, like, you know, artisanal, you know, donuts or whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

My wife likes going to those places where they serve you, like, 13 different things. Each one is the size of a quarter. Yeah, I need a steak.

[Tim Dillon]

It's very.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, bring it all at once. I'm a glutton. Yeah. I need my food in a large plate.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I need just a giant fucking hunk of meat.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it's also so much time. It's like three hours.

[Joe Rogan]

I can't do it.

[Tim Dillon]

And the waiters tell you about every single thing. And it feels very, like, indulgent to sit somewhere for three hours and then get educated about, like, where a raspberry came from.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. You know, I can take it with omakase sushi, like Philip Franklin's Lee's place.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

That's kind of fun. You know, it's that you watch him do it. You watch them, like, slice it up and put it together. It's kind of cool. It's fun. Yeah. Just know what you're in for when you get there. You have conversations. There's a small amount of people so you can get to know folks.

[Tim Dillon]

And a sushi bar is good because you don't have to talk that much.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

When you're directly across somebody for three hours, that's intense.

[Joe Rogan]

And the worst is, like, someone could be in the middle of some fucking horrible store. And then my mother came back and it was stage four. And this is a peanut from Australia. And the glaze is a demi glaze with a South France bourbon.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And then you have to say thank you. Thank you so much.

[Joe Rogan]

Hey, you fuck head. Yeah, her mom died.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You piece of shit.

[Tim Dillon]

I hate people that ruin meals with real discussions about anything that's depressing.

[Joe Rogan]

That is a problem.

[Tim Dillon]

Anybody who comes out and if there's money being spent, keep it to yourself. Talk about things that we can all get on board. Nobody cares, you know? Oh, my dad's going to beat it. He's a fighter. Hey, hey, hey. Not now.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. I'm the emotion dump that just, like, what am I supposed to do with all this? I have all your emotions in a podcast. It's too much.

[Tim Dillon]

People Talk too much about personal things, and then they expect you to offer them some degree of comfort.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. What can you do?

[Tim Dillon]

You can't do anything.

[Joe Rogan]

There's nothing you can do.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm sorry. Your sister has borderline personality disorder.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that exactly?

[Tim Dillon]

It's. It's.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that real?

[Tim Dillon]

No. And it's people that just go around ruining all the relationships in their life.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, so it just means you're a piece of. Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Which is fine. And then there's that. So they just say it's bored. They're borderline.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Because there's a lot of, like, mental things like that that are just sort of patterns that people fall into.

[Jamie]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Like if you're rude, can you medicate a pattern?

[Joe Rogan]

But can you penetrate? Can you medicate rudeness? Like, some people are just rude. They're just not nice. They're not nice to waiters.

[Tim Dillon]

They'll invent a way. The pharmaceutical industry is such a profitable thing. They will. Everything eventually will be a disease.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I'm more and more convinced that ADHD is not real. I think a lot of kids just have a lot of fucking energy and they're supposed to be doing other stuff. They're not supposed to be sitting at a desk all day.

[Tim Dillon]

Put them in the military.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Let them. You know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Or let them play video games professionally. They seem to sit real fucking still when they're doing that. How come they're fully engaged when they play video games?

[Tim Dillon]

There are people you meet. I have grown friends in my life that are, you know, I'm 39, and they're in their late 30s. And I'm like, the best version of you is dying in the Ukraine. You should be a flag on a mantle. And we should point to you and go, this. He made the ultimate sacrifice for freedom. And that's the best version of them. And we don't have enough wars. We don't have enough dead people, so. Well, if wins, we're going to change that.

[Joe Rogan]

We are. If we had more wars, one thing that people would appreciate is the whole concept of America. Like, if we got attacked, like, after 9, 11. Yeah, after 9 11. I don't know where you were, but I was in L. A and the fucking. Well, you're a lot younger than me. But the flags on people's cars were everywhere in Los Angeles.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is crazy. It's like everyone was super patriotic and people.

[Tim Dillon]

And it felt. It felt. You know, people get mad when you say this. It was the best time ever to live in america.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

After 9, 11. It was the warmest time you felt? I never felt better about the country. We felt united, we were compassionate. We truly loved each other.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's how people in Israel feel every day.

[Tim Dillon]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yep.

[Tim Dillon]

Isn't it so they go through it so much that they're desensitized to it at this point.

[Joe Rogan]

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[Tim Dillon]

Right. They might have had a drug problem. I don't think they might have been.

[Joe Rogan]

They weren't even drinking. They were just having a good time. They were happy people. Well, but it was like, you have an appreciation for life. You live in a war zone.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think in America, where we are so removed from that that it doesn't seem real to us.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But you and I have an appreciation for life. We're not in a fucking war zone. No. So it's not the only way to have an appreciation for life.

[Tim Dillon]

Absolutely. I think you can have an appreciation for life in a myriad of ways. But I think one of the downsides of being so relatively safe is that when we talk about war, it's not real.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Unless you've been there.

[Tim Dillon]

Unless you've been there. I have no idea. I have friends that have been there. And I think we talk about conflicts all over the world without the intimate knowledge of how hellish they are.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And how. How much pain is associated with someone going and fighting and dying and killing people or killing people and being scarred and.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So one of the things that I think people are waking up to now is that it's, you know, we can't be everywhere in every war fighting everybody and then just, you know, not recognizing that that has consequences.

[Joe Rogan]

You say that, but if Kamala Harris wins and Liz Cheney takes over the CIA, we might have a chance.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, here's the thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Putting it all together.

[Tim Dillon]

What time is it right now?

[Joe Rogan]

2:50. 2.

[Tim Dillon]

252. They just called it for Kamala. And I'm excited about it because many of us will be in jail. If you don't get excited right now, many of us will go right to jail.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's like when Dear Leader died and you had to cry for six months. Yeah. If you didn't cry, they put you in jail.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't think we should get nuts with the counting. If it feels good. If it feels good, let's just do it. If it feel. To me, the numbers and the columns and the tabulation kind of is a waste of time.

[Joe Rogan]

I think we just go with whatever Joy Reid thinks.

[Tim Dillon]

Whatever. Whatever they want.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, did you see Rachel Maddow calling for Elon Musk contracts to be taken away?

[Tim Dillon]

I didn't, but that's. That's kind of makes sense, I guess, if you're Rachel Maddow.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But it's the most bananas thing Ever. You have literally one of the greatest geniuses in human history, a guy who is simultaneously landing rockets. Not just shooting them, landing them. Having them getting caught by robots in the sky. Yeah. Then you have Tesla, then you have Starlink. Then you have the boring company that guy's simultaneously running all these different fucking.

[Tim Dillon]

But I bet Rachel Maddow is pretty bright.

[Joe Rogan]

But I have to send you this.

[Tim Dillon]

But they only care about their political opponents. I think. I think that's where we're at now, where it's like, somebody might have a great talent, but if they disagree with you, you have to.

[Joe Rogan]

I sent it to you, Jamie. You got to see her say it, because it's so unhinged. She's like. She used to be reasonable. At one point in time, she was reasonable. Matt Taibbi wrote a book called Hate, Inc. I don't know if you ever read it. It's a great book. But he basically makes the argument that Rachel Maddow is essentially Bill O'Reilly.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That they're the same person.

[Tim Dillon]

They are. She was good friends with Roger Ailes. They had dinner all the time.

[Joe Rogan]

Give me some volume and go full screen.

[Tim Dillon]

If Trump doesn't win, the Defense Department and NASA are going to need a new arrangement for all their rockets and for all the multibillion dollar contracts Elon Musk's companies have with the US Government. The US Government is going to have to either, I mean, unwind from all of those contracts or Elon Musk's companies are going to have to unwind from him. This is an untenable reality in national security terms. Now that we know what we know.

[Joe Rogan]

About Elon Musk, what is that? What do we know?

[Tim Dillon]

He endorsed President Trump.

[Joe Rogan]

That he's a fucking genius.

[Tim Dillon]

They're very good at making enemies. And then when the enemies they've made treat them poorly, they are shocked. This is what they do. They kind of bully people and they intimidate people and they threaten people. And then when those people then, you know, go back at them or try to assert themselves in any way, they're, like, stunned that that person has autonomy and is acting in their own interest. You know, this is happening over and over again.

[Joe Rogan]

But this idea is crazy because it's literally one of the most unique talents.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

In terms of engineering. In terms of.

[Tim Dillon]

She doesn't understand that.

[Joe Rogan]

So that's the thing.

[Tim Dillon]

She doesn't know that. Right.

[Joe Rogan]

But how.

[Tim Dillon]

She thinks there's 20 people doing it.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what's crazy. But SpaceX has done things that have never Happened before. Sure. These. These Falcon rockets landing, the. Catching the rockets, like all the plans they have for all these different things, the trips to Mars, no one's doing that. And this idea that you have a different political philosophy or ideology or you support a different candidate, and the solution is get rid of the guy who's the most genius inventor perhaps of all time.

[Unknown]

Article I was just reading said it has to do with his supposed conversations with Putin.

[Joe Rogan]

He had a conversation? Oh, no.

[Unknown]

As of 2020.

[Joe Rogan]

So did Tucker Carlson take him off Twitter?

[Tim Dillon]

And here's the other thing. I think that from what I understand, and I've read a little bit about this, Elon refused to provide Starlink to the Ukraine because they were going to use it to attack Russia. And there was going to be a dramatic escalation in the war.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think he was trying to avoid that. Yeah, I think he was trying to avoid a dramatic escalation in that war. Well, so the people that want a dramatic escalation in that war, the people that think that's a good idea, he's an enemy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Fucking Christ. It's. That's. That's something I think people should be voting on. Imagine if you put it up to vote for people like, hey, do you guys think we should fund Ukraine to the tune of 190 billion? And maybe have someone else come along and say this is an alternative of what we could do with that money.

[Tim Dillon]

Right. You know, there's no vote on that. There's no vote on a lot of the things that we're told to live with. There's never been a vote on immigration. There's votes for candidates that support it or don't support it, but there's never been a vote on should, you know, should we secure the southern border, would unanimously be voted on, and people would unanimously pretty much say, absolutely.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, how about the voter ID laws? Yeah, 84% of America think we should have voter ID.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

I showed my ID today. Jamie, what's the total so far? What's the, like, the latest results?

[Unknown]

We won't know for a few hours.

[Tim Dillon]

So here's what I will say.

[Joe Rogan]

Can we just be lied to?

[Tim Dillon]

Early voting. Early voting in Pennsylvania is down. You could check this out. Early voting in Pennsylvania is down for Democrats. 2020, you had 1.6 million registered Democrats vote early. Now you had 821,000, whereas Republicans early voters. I think last 2020 was like 547,000 521,000 this time. Meaning that the Republican early vote in PA, which is the Most important state and Michigan and Georgia is around the same as it has been. The Democratic early vote is somewhat depressed. It is not as strong as it's been. Now. I don't know if that's a pattern. I don't know if that's. Indict that. Just listen.

[Joe Rogan]

How many people have kind of quiet. Quit the Democratic Party?

[Tim Dillon]

There's tons of people. There's a lot of hidden votes. So there's people that are sick of Trump that are going to vote for her. There's people that are sick of the Democratic Party that are going to vote for him and then there's probably people that are motivated by Roe. Roe v. Wade. Women potentially might vote some.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's the Republicans biggest fuck up.

[Tim Dillon]

It's a huge fuck up. I think suburban women are certainly a big demographic that swings elections and how much urban women.

[Joe Rogan]

Urban women. No, women don't want men telling them what the fuck to do with their bodies.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

Especially when men can't get pregnant. It's too fucking convenient.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, wait a minute. Psychopath. Hold on. What? Wait a minute, I walked into that.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you know that they found out.

[Tim Dillon]

Abortion affects men as much as it does women?

[Joe Rogan]

Of course. Right, sure. You know they found out that that boxer that won a gold medal in the Olympics is actually a man. No. Yeah. The one shock everyone was complaining was was a biological male piece of shit. Yeah. They have a medical condition. No. Has a micro penis.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Internal testicles. Right. Went through male puberty, biological male XY chromosome, whole deal. Won a gold medal in the women's Olympics in boxing.

[Tim Dillon]

It's so crazy to me. And I think the biggest problem is the donor class because the donor class of the Democratic party and like Republican Party you either have people that are business owners that are donating because of business interests or you have radicals.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

That are donating because they are a radical activist that wants something that the American public thinks is crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And biological men competing in women's sports is something most people think is crazy. And 13 year olds getting puberty blocking hormones, 11 year old, you know, all that stuff. Most people think it's crazy but they have to just kowtow to this donor base that is maniacal.

[Joe Rogan]

Maniacal and insane. Yeah, yeah. It's all about money, right?

[Tim Dillon]

It's all about money. And it's the money guys are at least like at least a billionaires will go, I want to build a casino or I want to do this, I want to do that, I want to pollute a lake this isn't good. But you know where they're coming from. When you have these radical activists, they're kind of motivated by this ideology that nobody. It's a very small group of people. Like if you went to most people and said, do you think an 11 year old should have a gender reassignment surgery or should take hormones to block their puberty? The vast majority of people would say, no, no, they shouldn't. That's a crazy idea.

[Joe Rogan]

But the thing is, most people will say something different than they actually feel privately because they don't want to be attacked. Right. That's a weird one. Because the people that will attack you are almost always the people that are pro that shit happening. And those are the nuttiest fucking crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

Those are the people that will misrepresent you. And. Right. I have a friend who's, you know, they have very young children, they live in Long island and they, you know, there's like a. Now there's a book being read about gender identity to like 5 and 6 year olds. Crazy. And they're. And I'm texting with them and they're going, we're very like liberal people, but we're really confused as to why this is happening.

[Joe Rogan]

And, well, they let activists get into schools.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what it is. A lot of these teachers are just activists and a lot of them don't have kids. And a lot of them are gay or queer or trans or this or that or they're.

[Tim Dillon]

A lot of them are women too. Here's the other thing. A lot of them are women. Not to blame women, but it's like most of this stuff isn't being pushed. It's being pushed because a lot of people go, oh, they're groomers or pedophiles. Some of them might be, but a lot of them are just these do gooder types that want to have medals pinned on them and ribbons pinned on them as to how great they are as people. So they're going, so it's not all these female teachers, they're not all trying to have sex with your kids. They're just trying to get accolades from their peers and they want to talk about what a great person they are. So they're just like falling for anything. And they're out there distributing, you know, whatever it is, books or, you know, telling kids, because they want to be a good person, they want to feel like they're a good person, they want.

[Joe Rogan]

To be on the right side.

[Tim Dillon]

They want to be on the right side of things.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a good point.

[Tim Dillon]

And they're just not, you know, I don't think they are. Nobody's pushing back in a way. Like there's a lot of elitism and condescension that comes from the Democratic Party. The Democratic party used to be a party of unions, of workers, of workers rights. And it was a party that people like my grandmother was in for years because she believed that people should be able to have health care, they should be able to have sick leave, or they should be able to have maternity care, whatever it is. But then it became a party dominated by kind of corporate elites, very wealthy donors at Wall street people, finance people, and also very radical fringe elements that are advocating policies that most Americans don't agree with. And then you cobble together that coalition of interest groups and the only way that works is if you condescend to. Because you can't have these debates. Cuz they lose them, they lose the debates.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

You can't have them. So the way to shut down a debate is to tell people, if you don't agree with me, you're racist, you're homophobic, transphobic, you're an idiot, you're stupid, you're not worthy of having this discussion. Because they don't want to have the discussion. Because if they wanted to have a debate about healthcare, that's a debate. People understand that. If they wanted to have a bait about like debate about early childhood education, people understand that. But the things they're choosing to focus on, like having a wide open southern border, for example, benefits nobody, right? Truly. Unless you are a billionaire multimillionaire who wants to hire people and pay them less money. It doesn't really even benefit the people that are coming into the country because they're working for wages that are far less. And it certainly doesn't benefit Americans, but like they don't want to have that argument.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it benefits the people that are coming out of the country because they're coming from a place where they have fucking zero.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So if they work for very little, they're happy. They are 10 people in a house.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

They're not getting shot at every day.

[Tim Dillon]

So much more likely to be taken advantage of than somebody who's a citizen.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

So they're not going to unionize or they're not going to, you know, be able to assert themselves at all.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. That's the argument for offering these people amnesty. But the thing is like, you've got to vet them, you got to figure out who's a fucking criminal. Like I'm all for letting poor people in that want a better life, but I'm not for illegal workers. Yeah. Meaning, like, I think those people should be paid what Americans are paid.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I think there should be a standard on this soil. If you live in this fucking country, you should have a working wage. You should. If you're gonna work 40 hours a fucking week, you should be able to live on it. You should have healthcare. You should have all the things that people deserve. And I think if you think about the amount of fucking money we spend doing other stuff, we could do that for everybody. Yeah, that. That could be done.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And it would fix a lot of the fucking problems we have with money in this country in the first place. Like, the fucking. The amount of influence that pharmaceutical drug companies have on us is bizarre. It doesn't exist anywhere else.

[Tim Dillon]

I spoke to a woman who is from Chicago, and she worked for very wealthy Democrat donors in Chicago when Sanders was winning, when, you know, he had won that primary, Right. And they were very threatened by Sanders. So she was working with all them, and they all went to D.C. and they all, you know, met candidates at one time. They were backing Buttigieg, and then they met Biden, and they decided. Even then he was like. They go, he's not with it. This was even then.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And then there was a decision made that the best candidate to play ball to unite the party and to get rid of Bernie Sanders was Joe Biden. So all of the Democratic power brokers, all these big wealthy families, decided to line up and destroy Sanders and elevate Biden. And that's when she said she left politics because she said she was so disillusioned because she thought her job was to, like, help wealthy people make, like, you know, political decisions that helped people get health care or whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

But then when she realized that the job is actually to get rid of people who want to change the status quo, she became disillusioned. She left politics. But she. That was her job. And, you know, so when somebody talks like that in the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders was doing it, they get rid.

[Joe Rogan]

Of him, you know, 100%.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah, it's. You thought he was interesting. You endorsed him. You said, yes, he would be a very interesting candidate.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I liked his idea of making things easier for poor people.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

I think giving people a path to get out of abject poverty is a good idea. And his idea of taking and funding all these social programs based on a small percentage, like a fraction of a penny of all These speculative gambles that the stock market's doing. Like, maybe that would work.

[Tim Dillon]

But it was like. And then he came off your podcast and they go. He went on a transphobic pod. Like, the attacks started immediately.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah, no, CNN was the first. Yeah. They called the podcast racist and homophobic and all kinds of different things. And I got. I found out about it because I got a text message from a buddy saying, you okay? I'm like, well, what?

[Tim Dillon]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

And they're like, CNN is a. They wrote a hit piece on today. I go, for what? For. For Bernie Sanders. Like, what?

[Tim Dillon]

So this is that you come out, you endorse a left wing candidate.

[Joe Rogan]

And by the way, I didn't even endorse probably.

[Tim Dillon]

You said you liked him.

[Joe Rogan]

I said, I'll probably vote for Bernie.

[Tim Dillon]

He's anti corporate, he's from outside of the system. And then immediately you're attacked. They attack the podcast. So it's like, you know. And then Kamala Harris. God bless. But this woman is running on a platform of joy.

[Joe Rogan]

Joy is important.

[Tim Dillon]

Joy is the. Is the policy. The policy is Joy.

[Joe Rogan]

I want to take what she's taking. When you're laughing all the time, that sounds like fun.

[Tim Dillon]

The platform is joy. And there's people right now that can't feed their kids that are immiserated for whatever reason, they're not doing well and they don't have healthcare. And she goes, be joyful. And our joy is our work. It's like, crazy. It's, like, fully insane. And I don't understand who that connects with.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's completely manufactured, right?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

The whole thing is manufactured by the media and by whoever is running the country. Whoever's running the country. By the way, you're doing a great job considering there's no president.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

We've had no president for months.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay, Kamala Harris.

[Tim Dillon]

Maybe years, sure.

[Joe Rogan]

But Kamala Harris has been campaigning. She has no time to be president.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

Joe Biden is gone. Every now and then, somehow or another, they let him wander over to a microphone. Yes. And he says wild shit. Like, I like to take these Republicans and smack them in the ass.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And then he puts a MAGA hat on. He's getting fun. By the way, I voted for him today. I still support him. And because he's fun now, he clearly wants Trump to win. He hates her.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And he never liked the Obamas. This is well known.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Jack. How do you say his name? Jack Posobic posted on Twitter that there was a physical altercation between Jill Biden and someone from Kamala staff. I don't know if it's true, but it's fun.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, listen, Jill Biden, we know, is a psychopath, and we know that because she's very supportive. She's encouraged her husband, who should be on a porch, to run for president. It's disgusting. Joe Biden is one of the most.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I think sometimes I think he doesn't do good in the bright lights, closed doors. He's sharp as a tap.

[Tim Dillon]

She's a woman who claims to be a doctor. She's not a doctor. Well, you know that.

[Joe Rogan]

Why?

[Tim Dillon]

You know, chiropractor. No, no, no. You know, Jill Biden just has a doctorate.

[Joe Rogan]

She's not a doctor of anything that's interesting.

[Tim Dillon]

And she makes people call her Dr. Joe Biden. So already she's mentally ill. Cosby. She's not even like, a professor. Like, if you're a professor and you have a doctorate, somebody might say Dr. Rogan or whatever.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

But this idea that she's the first lady, not a medical doctor, not a professor.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And still making people call her doctor while she's doing the least doctorly thing ever, which is letting an elderly man be paraded around to try to win the presidency again. It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think she was enjoying the power.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, of course.

[Joe Rogan]

And I think that ring is very hard.

[Tim Dillon]

My precious. They don't want to. They don't want to let it go. Oh, my precious. Well, she's enjoying the power. She's enjoying not going. You know, maybe members of her family not being in jail, that would help that she's enjoying that.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you think he pardons his son because his son just got hit with a bunch of tax evasion charges?

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, I don't know. I hope Trump pardons him and invites him into the administration. That's the ultimate win. Hunter goes and works.

[Joe Rogan]

I had a chance to have him on the podcast.

[Tim Dillon]

No, Joe. And he did up.

[Joe Rogan]

I fucked up. It was early. Early on when he was writing a book. Remember when he wrote a book?

[Tim Dillon]

I remember.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. They reached out to get press, and then the laptop story kind of blew up. Yeah. Well, and then I was like, get them on. And then they were like, no, no, we.

[Tim Dillon]

You don't want a pre laptop. You want a post laptop.

[Joe Rogan]

This was post laptop. But they thought they had squashed it. So this was before Elon had purchased Twitter.

[Tim Dillon]

Got.

[Joe Rogan]

Once Elon purchased Twitter, and then they understood that there was a coordinated effort by 51 former intelligence agents to say that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

And then the fucking cat's out of the bag and then everybody knows what's going on.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, this is also the problem with saying that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy. When you have literally like credible, documented examples of intelligence officials lying to the public and facing zero consequences and trying to manipulate an election. I mean, that's, that's, that's a huge problem.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, Google's doing that right now. You know. Have you ever seen Robert Epstein work? Robert Epstein's work? Robert Epstein has compiled, like all.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm familiar with a different Epstein's work.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah, different one. Ephemeral interactions with Google, like Google search engine results and what you're. What you're shown on your homepage of Google News and how it influences people. Right. And how you can sway undecideds, like in a significant way, right, towards one candidate or the other, depending upon the search results. But one thing that people are pointing out on Twitter today, Jamie, let's see if we could replicate it. Why don't you Google where can I vote for Trump? Now? If you Google where can I vote for Trump? Let's see what it says. Because people. I'll show you what I saw people posting. It's mostly Harris stuff. Where can I vote for Trump? Okay, so here it is. Can I vote for the way the.

[Tim Dillon]

First article is Esquire. There's only one reason anyone votes for Trump. It's just hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

So you don't see this Google. Hold on, slow down, slow down. Google admits Trump. Harris search for discrepancy says fix is coming. I don't know what the fuck that means, but look at the bottom. So you googled where to vote for Trump. Scroll down a little bit. Scroll down a little bit more. Where can I Google search where can I vote for Harris? Shows right a new conspiracy theories taking root in election day. Click on that variety thing. So this is it. Where can I vote? Where can I vote for Harris? Showed a map while similar Trump search didn't. So you googled where can I vote for Trump? It didn't show the map. Now let's Google where can I vote for Harris? Let's see what happens. You vote centers.

[Tim Dillon]

You just voted for her.

[Joe Rogan]

Vote centers.

[Tim Dillon]

By the way, that's counted as a vote. You just. That's counted as one vote.

[Joe Rogan]

Scroll up. Go back to the top, please, to see what Google. Okay. Same thing in the New York Post says, fix is coming. Voting for Kamala Harris. Donald Trump will harm people so it's negative things about Trump where you get negative things about Trump. If you Google, where can I vote for Trump? You get negative things about Trump if you Google, where can I vote for Harris? And then right away it says vote centers. First search result is vote centers. After you get past the news. Fascinating. So it's true. So look, see, there's. You don't see vote centers. You see all these stories. You don't see vote centers right away. When you Google, where can I vote for Harris? You see vote centers right away. So it's not a conspiracy theory. If you could just reproduce it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, there's clear. There's a clearly a slant with what, you know, the media. And that's the other thing with a map popped up. I think Trump said, you know, the advantage. He's also running against the media, and the media is terrible. And I think his. One of his big advantages has been, you know, he's been able to kind of call them out successfully multiple times.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And so it's not just he's running against Kamala Harris. He's running against hostile media that does a terrible job at reporting facts when it comes to him. Well, Donald Trump says wild shit, and some of it, a lot of it, stands on its own as wild and crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But when they manipulate it, you know, Piers Morgan the other night, when he goes, there'd be a bloodbath in the auto industry if I'm not elected. And then they just say, oh, there's Trump. If he's not elected is gonna be a bloodbath.

[Joe Rogan]

One of the reasons why I was willing to endorse him was watching Obama repeat the lie that he said that white supremacists, that there's very fine people on both sides. Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a terrible lie. He literally says, I'm not talking about white supremacists and the kkk. Those people should be condemned.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what he says.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Well, and that's what he's talking about.

[Joe Rogan]

Was the people that were coming to protest the fact that a statue was being.

[Tim Dillon]

What's interesting about Trump.

[Joe Rogan]

Wasn't that what it was?

[Tim Dillon]

He was the first guy. Yes, he was the first guy in Palm Beach. Whatever you think of Trump, there's reasons to not like him. There's very legitimate reasons not to like him. But he was the first guy in Palm beach that opened Mar a Lago to Jewish people, to gay people, to people of color. Like, people were allowed. There was all these country clubs in Palm beach that prevented Those people. And now obviously people go, well, he just did that for money. And it's like, sure, fine, whatever. But, like, he was the guy who did it, right?

[Joe Rogan]

He was short of members. Yeah, he did it for money.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, yeah, he opened the door and, you know, so to me, it's like his. One of the. His biggest advantages has always been that the press cannot help themselves when it comes to him. They are rage addicts and they like hating him and he feeds them and they get more popular and they get bigger when he is around.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, when he lost the election, CNN dropped 40%.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right. So right away they're addicted to being in a, you know, hostile, contentious relationship with him. And they misrepresent a lot of what he says, just flat out lies. And that's a huge problem. And they can't help themselves. If they got out of the way, it would hurt him. Because like any politician, then you're just going to be dealing with other politicians or your supporters or your detractors or whoever. But you have this media that's lying about you and you can constantly call it out. It helps them.

[Joe Rogan]

I think the cat's out of the bag, though, with the media.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, it's over.

[Joe Rogan]

It's over.

[Tim Dillon]

It's big time.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, the video that I did with Trump is well over 100 million views. Yeah. Between Twitter and YouTube and Spotify. Well over 100 million. The one I did with Elon just yesterday was this morning. It had 65 million views just on Twitter.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't want to upstage you. The video that I did with J.D. vance got 3 billion views. Billion. It got 3 billion views.

[Joe Rogan]

Nice.

[Tim Dillon]

So I don't want to upset you, but. No, I mean, do you. Do you think it's going because me and you talked about this? I think it will be decided tonight. But you think maybe not?

[Joe Rogan]

No, not if it's close.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's when shenanigans take place.

[Tim Dillon]

Shenanigans.

[Joe Rogan]

If shenanigans are real, okay. There's manipulation. Manipulation will take place at 4 o'clock in the morning.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting, don't you think?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, don't you think that's when ballots show up? I mean, if you're going to cheat, here's the deal.

[Tim Dillon]

My grandmother. My grandmother died in 2017. She was a big Democrat. She'd been voting lately, and she voted six times for Kamala Harris. And if you think that's wrong, that's disgusting. I don't know what to tell you.

[Joe Rogan]

That's who she would have voted for.

[Tim Dillon]

She probably would have.

[Joe Rogan]

So in her honor. Yeah, in her.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know how much fuckery is going on down at the ballot box. Probably some for sure. So my friend who's actually outside, but I'm not going to say his name.

[Joe Rogan]

Say it.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't want to hurt him. Oh, Boston comedian. Someone sent him a thing where there were, like, duplicate ballots in Georgia in 2020. Like, weird stuff.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, this weird stuff.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, really weird. Now, I was a guy who was like, I bought the idea that I was like, Trump lost and people wanted Biden and whatever. And maybe that is a. I don't know. But, like, there's. There seems to be more evidence of fuckery than I was willing to. But that doesn't mean it's. There's probably fuckery in every election.

[Joe Rogan]

There's not zero.

[Tim Dillon]

There's not zero.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

So in every election, there's something.

[Joe Rogan]

When I asked Trump, like, how you say you lost the 2020 election? Can you prove it? Show. Tell me. I gave.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

I gave him all the room. I would have given him an hour. Like, tell me. Yeah. And he's like, there's plenty of information. They wrote a book. It's coming out. Like, okay, put it out in a digestible form. You've had four years, maybe it's out and I don't know. I haven't seen it. No one's sent my way.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm willing to believe and not willing to believe. We know that the tech companies and the intel agencies all coordinated to suppress certain stories. And, like, they will admit it. That.

[Joe Rogan]

No question.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, I haven't seen the direct evidence of.

[Joe Rogan]

That's election interference.

[Tim Dillon]

That is hugely.

[Joe Rogan]

Election interference that would have affected millions of people's decisions.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Well, then that's a huge problem.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a giant problem. You have 300 million people. The elections in the counties where Biden won was by, like, how many votes total? I think it was, like, swing states.

[Tim Dillon]

83,000 in PA. It was very crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

That's crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

It was crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

And if you imagine if 83 of those thousand people, if just half of them got a hold of that laptop story.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And listen, I think a huge problem is that the intelligence agencies are completely unaccountable. Meaning that there's been no accountability at all for anyone who suppressed the laptop story. I mean, where is this Kim Cheadle woman? Who? The head of the Secret Service. The craziest thing in the world.

[Joe Rogan]

The sloped roof, lady.

[Tim Dillon]

The slope roof. I've taken gravity bong. Hits on acid, on roofs that have more of a pitch than that. And I didn't fall off. I'm not exactly a Navy seal, and I was able to do it.

[Joe Rogan]

They had snipers on a similar roof that had more of a pitch.

[Tim Dillon]

The whole thing is as shady as humanly possible. He was cremated.

[Joe Rogan]

The house was 11 days. The house was professionally scrubbed.

[Tim Dillon]

Professionally scrubbed. And then nobody talks about it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, did you see the cell phone data that shows that someone was meeting.

[Tim Dillon]

Up with him or close to.

[Joe Rogan]

Close to the FBI offices, was up with them on a regular basis.

[Tim Dillon]

Where is this woman?

[Joe Rogan]

He's in a black rock commercial. The whole thing is weird and then beyond.

[Tim Dillon]

It's beyond strange.

[Joe Rogan]

Lee Harvey Oswald, 20, 24.

[Tim Dillon]

It's crazy. And he has no digital footprint. There's not one. There's very few people that age that have no digital footprint.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And then if you talk about any of this or you say anything, people write it off as sort of a QAnon, whatever, but it isn't. It's valid, legit. And people, normies, people that don't think like this, are even going. That was fucking weird.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just weird that they never had a press conference. They never had a toxicology exam that was released. Yeah, it was not like someone wants to shoot the president. Wouldn't you assume that person's out of their fucking mind? Maybe they're on meth. Maybe we can find some sort of a reason why we feel a little bit better.

[Tim Dillon]

And then the next guy was a guy who, like the Three Stooges, A barrel of a gun is going through the bushes on a golf course like something out of the Marx Brothers. And that guy was a guy that, like CNN or ms, I forget which one had been speaking to about, like, the Ukraine. He wrote, like, a song about the Ukraine and how important it was to support the Ukraine. And he was being, like, interviewed by the news, like a cable news. And they had a relationship with him. And imagine if Fox News had a relationship with somebody who tried to assassinate Obama, Biden, Harris.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

That never. You would have never heard the end of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

Most people hearing this, maybe you're hearing this for the first time. But, like, he was. This was like, a source or this guy that they kind of profiled. And, you know, it came out that he was. And then his kid got busted for child porn.

[Joe Rogan]

Wild.

[Tim Dillon]

Just like Stephen Paddock's brother.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, that's what's wild.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm just saying, hey, how much do.

[Joe Rogan]

You know about the Vegas thing? Is it true? Women that were checked into the room with him. I was reading this thing the other day about how there's three unaccounted for women that apparently checked into the room with him.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting. I don't know that, but.

[Joe Rogan]

What's that, Jimmy?

[Unknown]

Never heard that.

[Joe Rogan]

You never heard that?

[Unknown]

I've researched a lot. I mean, there's cell phones, I think, that were found that were unaccounted for. He had a girlfriend that wasn't there that I think he sent to the Philippines or something like that.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's.

[Tim Dillon]

Mary Lou Danley was a girlfriend who went to the Philippines. Jamie's controlled opposition. You know, you can't really.

[Joe Rogan]

He's a Reddit mod.

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, he's a guy. He doesn't. Who knows where He's. He's getting text from Netanyahu.

[Joe Rogan]

This guy Kamala Harris is on speed dialogue.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. I don't know. It feels. It's an interesting day because everybody has a weird tension.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, not here.

[Tim Dillon]

People are friendly here, but I was just in a car accident. Everyone was friendly and the cops were. Everyone's kind of friendly, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Did anybody recognize you?

[Tim Dillon]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you wear the glasses?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. There's a nice Mexican guy, and it was good. Like, nobody.

[Joe Rogan]

My friend. You from. Yeah. The Team Dylan Show.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. No, it was. It was all very nice. And it was nice. And that's the thing about car accidents. It can be nice. And it wasn't my car. It was, you know, it was kind of a rental. And it was just kind of nice to. To meet people and be out. But, you know, it is a weird. There is an interesting. I think people just want this to be over 100%. They need to move on.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It would be nice, no matter who wins, if we could all just take a breath. Let's imagine she wins. And one of the things that she has been very good about during the whole campaign is changing her opinions based on what people think. Well, if we can influence the president based on popular opinion, isn't that a good thing?

[Tim Dillon]

Joe, I'm great at lying. Get ready. I hate ice cream. Like, what she's been able to do, which I respect, is look at the American people in line with them, and that's good.

[Joe Rogan]

Or at least adjust her opinion.

[Tim Dillon]

She's adjusted.

[Joe Rogan]

Let's, like, be, you know, I agree.

[Tim Dillon]

Listen, I'm for charitable as possible. I'm charitable with her. I'm very charitable. I don't think she's, like, the worst. I like her. I think she's fun. I think she'd be Fun to sit and have a drink with.

[Joe Rogan]

I was really hoping I was going to get to talk to her.

[Tim Dillon]

I was wishing that you would.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, it's just the options were fly to her and meet for 45 minutes. And I was like, that's not what you do. It's. You know, Elon said it best yesterday. He goes, you really find out about people in hour two and three. Yeah, yeah. Like you can bullshit people for 45 minutes. Hour two or three, something's going to come up.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, the great thing about your show is that it's not scripted talking points where people don't come on with an agenda and go, here, I want to say this, that, and the thing. You sit there for hours, you talk to them, you have a real conversation, and what they really think will come out and.

[Joe Rogan]

But here's the thing. I'm going to be nice to you. I'm going to be nice to Kamala Harris. I would be so friendly to her. I wouldn't try any gotcha bullshit. I'm not interested in doing that. I genuinely wanted to know, like, you.

[Tim Dillon]

Shoot guns with her?

[Joe Rogan]

She has a clock. Sure, let's go shoot. I'll take her to the ring.

[Tim Dillon]

She was on this show getting hot.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, my God.

[Tim Dillon]

Smoking weed and then waving a gun around.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I shouldn't have to wave then. I vote that's, you know, that's bad gun handling, of course, but it's. I understand, Important. Don't point guns.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

But even when they're unloaded. Tim Dillon.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but it's fun.

[Joe Rogan]

It would be fun. But here's the thing. If she did come on and just had a little cocktail. Yeah. Her and I have a couple of whiskeys.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Talk a little shit. I bet she's fun. She's not much older than me.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, no, she's probably fun. She probably is surprised by that.

[Joe Rogan]

When she was younger.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I'm sure she's. Listen, Attractive lady. She's probably surprised that she's running for president because they told her, you know, she probably wanted to. There's. There's reports that she was like, you're not going to pass me over. Because they wanted what she said. Yeah, they didn't want her.

[Joe Rogan]

And she really had that kind of say, though.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes, because. Because she would have thrown a fit and said they, they. They overlooked a woman of color or.

[Joe Rogan]

Had a press conference, exposed a lot of shit about how the machine works.

[Tim Dillon]

Whatever she could have done, they didn't want to deal with that. And she's been a careerist her whole life. And she wanted the job.

[Joe Rogan]

And what I heard was that Joe Biden kind of forced her in.

[Tim Dillon]

No way.

[Joe Rogan]

What I heard was that they were going to have a primary, but the Joe Biden said that he endorsed her. He endorsed her. And then it was this weird situation where they got to kind of like run her.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

By the way, I'm hearing this from.

[Tim Dillon]

We're all hearing it from Randy. We're all hearing it. I think she's. She's a very motivated, strategic person.

[Joe Rogan]

Is there any evidence of that? Jamie, find out if Joe Biden endorsed her and whether or not I think.

[Tim Dillon]

He was made to endorse her. You know, he doesn't. I'll check that.

[Unknown]

But there is three women supposedly with.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, good.

[Unknown]

I just checked this in.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, there was.

[Unknown]

Yeah, sorry.

[Joe Rogan]

Stephen Paddock's hotel records show. Oh, you. Controlled opposition fact check by community notes.

[Unknown]

Six years old.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, still the whole story. Six years old. Stephen Paddock's hotel records show three women registered in his room. Interesting. But they could have been hoes. This guy was a crazy riverboat gamble.

[Tim Dillon]

Do you register a hooker to the room?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, if you're wild man.

[Tim Dillon]

If you're wild man, give him a card.

[Joe Rogan]

Especially if you don't want those ladies stealing your Rolex.

[Tim Dillon]

That's a good point. You gotta trust them.

[Joe Rogan]

Sean's trust Ask on skim. That's wild.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, really? Somebody took his Rolex.

[Joe Rogan]

He had a lady and she. She drugged him.

[Tim Dillon]

He was probably showing her the Rolex.

[Joe Rogan]

He probably was that dumbass.

[Tim Dillon]

It's probably not.

[Joe Rogan]

This is my dick.

[Tim Dillon]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

Is probably not so slick.

[Tim Dillon]

It's. It's a.

[Joe Rogan]

But if you wanted to make sure that they weren't stealing from you, you're like, you have to have ID to get in.

[Tim Dillon]

You have to have ID to get into the road.

[Joe Rogan]

That would be like. Yeah, because this guy's a riverboat gambler. This guy's a wild dude. Right. He was a professional gambler. Professional gamblers. I think hookers and professional gamblers. Yeah, they just.

[Tim Dillon]

And also, he had no track record. That's the other thing that Paddock was interesting. He just kind of is emerged.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

That's interesting about these people, Steve.

[Unknown]

The. He might have been a gambler, but they gave him credit for being like a video poker. That's where he made.

[Tim Dillon]

That's where he made all.

[Unknown]

If you ask people that are really into gambling, like, no one makes a lot of money video poker gambling.

[Joe Rogan]

Really?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, there's all kinds of reports about that that it was some weird Saudi coup that they locked down the country in the days after. I don't really know enough about it, but it was a very strange thing.

[Joe Rogan]

That just doesn't make any sense.

[Tim Dillon]

Has never been fully.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, is he just shooting at a console? Like, what?

[Tim Dillon]

Supposedly he lost his mind and then he just wanted to kill everybody.

[Joe Rogan]

And here's the thing, though, that's real too.

[Tim Dillon]

That's real too.

[Joe Rogan]

That's real too. And if you really wanted to make a splash and you knew you're going to kill yourself and you were some fucking psycho and you just wanted to gun down a bunch of people.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Bang. Oh, let's see what's next.

[Tim Dillon]

I, you know, it's one of those things where it disappears and then the thing about all of this is the news moves so quickly and so much is going on. You can't. It gets hazy, the recollection of it, like the Trump shooting. Even the recollection will get hazy in a few months from now. Forget a few years. Even in a few months. The idea of it being a slope roof, People don't remember, right? People just remember a guy climbed on a roof. They don't remember. It was 120 yards away. The Secret Service didn't clear the roof. He was walking around. People were telling them, there's a guy walking around. He's creepy. He flew a drone over the area.

[Joe Rogan]

He had a rangefinder.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, all of those details that are very important, but the rangefinder is nuts.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, anybody with a rangefinder should be arrested.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

If you have a rangefinder and you're walking around an area where the president or a president candidate is going to be, you should be arrested.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Someone should find out what you're doing, what you're up to.

[Tim Dillon]

And didn't have explosives in the car.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, he had explosives and they're sophisticated with radio controlled devices. He had remote controlled explosives. Like, how is he getting that? He's 20 years old. Yeah, like what, what, where you, what Google search do you have? Like, where are you ordering these things? How you get, how you are you putting them together?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Someone manufactured for you. Who'd you buy it from? Where's the investigation?

[Tim Dillon]

Nothing. Nothing. There's one thing. Where his father is leaving a Costco, there's one like video. Jamie, maybe you could pull it up where there's like one reporter and his dad and someone in like a mask are leaving Costco or BJ's or something like that. And he's like, no comment. And he just gets into his car that's kind of the only time I've ever seen the parent. This is the only. I think they released a statement like we're terribly. Blah, blah, blah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's also interesting. It's like some people. Here it is. This is the dad.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, this is Trump.

[Joe Rogan]

Shooter's dad blows off questions. I got a P, he said, but he's.

[Tim Dillon]

There's another one where he's leaving a Costco.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me hear him talking.

[Unknown]

I was trying to find out if that was the correct video even.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's him talking. Let's hear what he says.

[Tim Dillon]

Is there any statement you'd be willing to share with us right now, Mr. Crooks?

[Joe Rogan]

I got a P says Forrest Gump quote.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I mean casual. For the fact that his son just tried to kill the President.

[Tim Dillon]

He was at Costco. Well, the week after me he was. He looked very calm leaving Costco and he has a full cart of food leaving cut like it's insane.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, not only that, imagine your son is. Forget about the fact that he tried to kill Trump. He did kill someone and he shot. Killed two other people. He killed a guy who was trying to shield his wife.

[Tim Dillon]

Look at it. Can you stop this for a minute? Who is getting that much food two weeks after your son tried to kill the president?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, look at the size of that fellow. He probably eats a lot of food.

[Tim Dillon]

I get it. But he has a full cart. And by the way, he can't get anyone to go to Costco for him. He's walking around buying mini taquitos.

[Joe Rogan]

He probably doesn't have any money. I mean, he's not a wealthy guy, right?

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, you gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco for you.

[Joe Rogan]

That's pretty nice car. What is that?

[Tim Dillon]

You gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco. This guy's got a full card.

[Joe Rogan]

What is that car? That looks like a pretty nice car.

[Tim Dillon]

This is just a weird to me. It's an interesting. Like right after your son does this, you're at Costco buying the store with the Unabomber. Yeah, with someone with some fed in a.

[Joe Rogan]

In a mask with sunglasses on.

[Tim Dillon]

The CIA goes, well, we'll take you to Costco. Keep your mouth shut.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, look at this guy with the gloves. Who's this? The hat, the hood, what's this? He's got gloves on, dude. He's got gloves on so he doesn't leave fingerprints.

[Tim Dillon]

It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

The guy has gloves.

[Tim Dillon]

It's insane.

[Joe Rogan]

What does he have gloves on for? It's not cold out. Don't show me this guy dying. Jamie, can you please stop with your algorithm?

[Tim Dillon]

Jamie, enough. Jamie was. He was raised on Live Leak.

[Joe Rogan]

He was. Remember that?

[Tim Dillon]

Yes. He was raised in beheading videos online.

[Joe Rogan]

That was back before Instagram. Instagram, yeah. Nowadays, I've seen more people murdered over the last three years on Instagram than I have my entire life of people psycho, sending me things.

[Tim Dillon]

It's crazy. Did you see that video where the kid jumps off the cruise ship and the shark gets them? It's tough out there, but you can't do dumb. Sometimes you do the summer between high school and college, we all know one person who did a really dumb thing, and that was it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And sometimes you're that guy. Nobody wants to be that guy. But sometimes you're that cautionary tale, you know? And that kid will be immortalized every time that someone. Someone will go out to dinner or something, they'll go, when I was 18, we took a cruise for our high school graduation, and a kid jumped off the boat and a tiger shark got him. That was it. Jesus Christ.

[Joe Rogan]

What a way to go.

[Tim Dillon]

And people will talk about that and tell their kids that. And it's a terrible thing.

[Joe Rogan]

A moment you hit the water, you feel those teeth on your rib cage.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, I think he's treading for a minute, and then you just see him kind of go under, and they don't know what it is, but it's probably a shark. And he voted for Kamala. So if you're telling me he's not even racist. Well, Oprah, last night, I'm watching rally, and I'm watching Oprah's out there, and she goes, if you cast. If you don't cast a ballot for Kamala, you may never be able to cast a ballot again, which seems extreme.

[Joe Rogan]

That's so crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

Can you get up the rally? I want you to watch this. Will I am is on the rally, and he's doing this crazy Kamala rap. And then there are these two white kids, like, college kids, like, awkwardly dancing to this music. And then there's Doug Emhoff and then Tim Walsh. And I'm like, these are the whitest people. Like, Kamala's just surrounded by this circle of, like, white nerds and weird people, and they're all, like, kind of trying to dance. And it's like, a really sad. Whereas Michelle Obama is just a much better spirit. Weaker like Michelle Obama.

[Joe Rogan]

Why didn't she run? I don't know why she would have won. She is in a landslide.

[Tim Dillon]

When you Watch her talk, you go, she has political talent. It's raw. It's amazing. I can deliver.

[Joe Rogan]

She didn't want to. She went with it through her husband doing that.

[Tim Dillon]

I think she's like, fuck this. It's. It's probably a shitty job.

[Joe Rogan]

Not only that, you don't make as much money as you do being an ex president.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. I think if Trump didn't have the rallies, he might not want to even do it, because it probably sucks once you're in there, but it's probably fun to be able to go on the road. Like, he goes on the road like a comedian, right. And he's able to kind of. You know, I bet once you get in there and you realize, oh, this is how it all works, and this is how many deals everybody has that are preexisting. And if I touch this, this happens. If I touch that, that happens.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I bet it's probably not that fun.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I bet it's probably fun. Well, first of all, Trump is almost 80 years old, right. He's been famous most of his life.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Most of his adult life. And at this point in time, you know, he's not on the Apprentice anymore. How does he get his jollies? You know, you gotta. That's fun. He's perfect performing. When he goes out and kills those. He kills, kills. He has bits.

[Tim Dillon]

He kills. People love it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. He says, funny shit, man.

[Tim Dillon]

And here's the thing. Andrew Sullivan, who's a writer from the uk, who's, again, not even. He's a. He's voting for Kamala. He lives in America. But he said the thing about Trump is, like, you can't say the rallies are not democratic. They're the most democratic thing it might be. He goes, it's America in its foulest glory. Like, listen, listen. It might be crass and it might be certain parts of it might feel, you know, what a vulgar or whatever, but it is democratic to have people come out to speak directly to them and then have them vote for you. That is, in essence, democratic.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, you have the same thing on both sides, right. You have low information tribal voters.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

So you have low information tribal voters on the left who really do think. Trump said, there's very fine people on both sides and really do believe in the Russia hoax, really do believe in all that stuff. And then you have people on the other side that are, like, ready to fucking shoot liberals.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

And they have their signs, their Trump signs electrocuted in their front yard to make sure people don't steal them. And there's people that are off the rails tribally. When you have a group, and this is what I try to. If you make a group and anybody could join that group, it's gonna be infiltrated by idiots 100% of the time. And then those people are gonna do radical things in the name of your group. Group. And then you have the proud boys.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes. And then you have the extremes. You have people that. That just drift towards the extremes. And the whole premise of political life in America should be to keep people from drifting to those crazy extremes.

[Joe Rogan]

100 and the more you meet people in the middle, the less they're going to do that, the more you're reasonable instead of attacking people in this crazy way where we know it's not true. I can't. Like, I used to think Obama was the best president ever. Because Obama, I think still to this day the best statesman. He was the best example that you could take. This guy who is from a single family. It's not like he didn't grow. He's a single mom. He didn't grow up with great privilege. Obviously a brilliant guy. Obviously very smart, great orator. And hey, we elected a black president. Maybe racial tensions can relax a little bit in this country because anybody could rise based on the merit of what they can do and who they are and what they stand for. I was like, he's the best.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Finally. I felt really good about America when Obama was the president. Obviously I wasn't paying attention to politics back then because I didn't understand about. He was one of the worst presidents ever in terms of going after whistleblowers. Like that was a part of the Hope and Change website was that they were going to provide safety to whistleblowers. That's not the case at all. It was one of the worst.

[Tim Dillon]

No. Obama was an extension in many ways of the national. National security policies of George W. Bush, which was a kind of zero tolerance policy for whistleblowers. And it was a. The government has proprietary information. And if youthere's two things that were.

[Joe Rogan]

Passed during his administration that should terrify people. One of them, I think NDAA was passed during his administration. And the other one was the CIA's ability to use propaganda.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

That the intelligence agencies are now legally allowed to lie and use propaganda and fake stories in the interest of national security.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. The problem really is you're taking on. When you take on this behemoth, this thing that we've built.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's very difficult to make inroads And I wish Trump luck. I wish anyone luck that is trying to take this blob on this. Also unruly, unelected, unaccountable.

[Joe Rogan]

You don't know how to do the job. You've never done it before. And they don't tell you how to do the job until you get in there. The no one explains to you what the fuck really goes on until you're behind the closed doors. Yeah. That's why you got a guy like Putin. He knows how to run Russia. He's been running Russia for 25 years. Yeah, this guy knows how to do that job. He's really good at it.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, he's very good.

[Joe Rogan]

If you take a comic on the road with you and he's got to do an arena. He's only been doing comics comedy for 10 months. Like, hey, buddy.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, Putin's job is to just mediate conflicts between oligarchs, which is what he does very well. And I think that's. That's what people misunderstand about Russia.

[Joe Rogan]

I've read a lot about Russia and poison rivals. He's really good.

[Tim Dillon]

He's got. Well, who? You know, people get sick, Joe.

[Joe Rogan]

They do.

[Tim Dillon]

I was so mad. They all got Russian money. They gave Tim Pool and all these people Russian money. I've been defending Russia for free for two years on my show. Not a dollar.

[Joe Rogan]

How did they get that money? What is the actual story behind the Russian money?

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know, but it was a. It was a. It was a front that was. I guess Russia was giving this group money, and they were sponsoring these media entities that were. I don't think they even knew. I don't think the people knew.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

That they were getting Russian money. But some of them might have been able to sniff it out. I don't really know.

[Joe Rogan]

Here's my question.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't that a way that they could compromise you without compromising you? Just say you're connected to Russian money. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. Like, say if your opinion is counter to the narrative, but they sponsor you and they give you the money, and then it leaks.

[Tim Dillon]

Thousand percent. That could have been it. It could have also been Russia doing it. It could have been us doing it. They could have killed Navalny. We could have killed Navalny. There was no reason for them to kill Navalny. He was in a Siberian prison. We had a very.

[Joe Rogan]

But he was an enemy of Putin, right?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but he was in a prison in Siberia.

[Joe Rogan]

Just wanted to get him whacked.

[Tim Dillon]

No, because Navalny was never widely popular in Russia. This is a lie. Navalny was, you know, kind of, you know, anti Jewish, like kind of really right wing character. And a lot of his early writings were about that. Then he took a trip to Germany and then he came back incredibly progressive and very enlightened, talking about Western values, really. So he met someone somewhere that said, actually, this is better. And he came and said, okay. And they're like, tamp down the Jew stuff. So then he goes back to Russia, you know, does all the things. He makes these documentaries that all the Putin oligarch friends have big houses. Can you imagine that? People, people that are working with the government get really rich and have big houses. This is crazy. This is only in Russia. So Navalny does this whole thing and he shows all the corruption in Russia, and then our good government people go, look how corrupt Russia is. Putin's cronies get all these big houses. And Americans go, oh, my God, so corrupt over there. And then, you know, listen, they try to poison. I'm not defending and saying Putin's a great guy, but this idea that, you know, we like to look at other places and identify things that we are also doing here, well, that was one.

[Joe Rogan]

Of the things that Trump said that people got very upset about.

[Tim Dillon]

We kill people here too. So I don't want to live in Russia, and I don't think Russia is a better place to live. And I think that the childish admiration for Putin amongst some people on the right is a little silly because they wouldn't want to live there either. And they wouldn't do a. It wouldn't be good to do a podcast in Russia. That being said, why are we spending billions and billions of dollars to try to drain the Russian military over a land border with Ukraine? We have zero. And the reason is blackrock and all these companies are being promised a lot of land in the Ukraine. They're being promised all. You know, Ukraine's a breadbasket of Europe. There's tons of agricultural land. A lot of it has a ton of. There's minerals. Yeah, Lindsey Graham, I mean, Jamie probably has that, that quote where Lindsey Graham literally said the quiet part out loud where he said, they've got all these minerals. We can't let Putin get that money. He says, lindsey Graham, we can't let Putin get that money. And he says it. He's my favorite, and he has it and he's saying it out loud. And so a lot of people are just like, listen. And the Navalny thing happened when we had a bill that was I think it was a $60 billion bill for the Russia Ukraine war that wasn't incredibly popular. People were getting sick of it. And then when Navalny died again, I don't know who did it, but when he died, there was a renewed. You see? Look how bad. Don't you see why we need this money? Look how terrible this person is. So it would have been a weird time for Putin to kill him. It wouldn't have made any sense.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Putin's aware that we have a bill on deck. There's something crazy about Putin killing him. Exactly. At that time.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me hear Lindsay Graham talk. Let me hear him talk.

[Jamie]

I am for Ukraine support.

[Joe Rogan]

We can't pull the plug on Ukraine.

[Jamie]

Let Putin get away with this.

[Joe Rogan]

We need to be all in with.

[Jamie]

The goal of allowing Ukraine to evict the Russians.

[Joe Rogan]

Pause for a second. Pause for a second. Tell me you couldn't picture that guy with a ball gag and, like, leather type.

[Tim Dillon]

That's the least of what he has. But, Jamie, there's another thing where he literally talks about the minerals, the rare earth minerals that are in the Ukraine, which is the entire reason.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like my.

[Tim Dillon]

I put it on my Instagram. It's like. It's one of. Of the craziest things I've ever seen.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

This. This one right here.

[Joe Rogan]

Ukraine sits on. Go back up to the top where it said they're sitting on trillion dollars minerals could be good to our economy.

[Jamie]

So I want to keep helping our friends in Ukraine. They're sitting on 10 to 12 trillion dollars of critical minerals in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to put into share with China. If we help Ukraine now, now they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of.

[Tim Dillon]

There we go. Pause.

[Joe Rogan]

How crazy is that guy? And how crazy is his job?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

International fuckery.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Money.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, he's kind of. I would imagine something I should have been is he's a kind of a closeted gay super villain, which seems like a fun thing to be. Why would we let that money.

[Joe Rogan]

Is he supposed to be married?

[Tim Dillon]

He's. Isn't he married?

[Joe Rogan]

Find out.

[Tim Dillon]

But, I mean, it's a fun. It's a fun thing.

[Joe Rogan]

And there's something funny about feminine.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, male war super villain. Which is great. Let Putin get that money. That'd be the best business partners we've ever had.

[Joe Rogan]

Trillions and trillions. Trillions of minerals.

[Tim Dillon]

I love.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Trillions of minerals in that.

[Joe Rogan]

Ukraine's wet Ukrainian Something.

[Tim Dillon]

It's. It's. It's crazy. But then you think about it, and there's all these young Ukrainian men and Russian men who are dying in this war because we've consistently told them not to make peace. And that's the dark part of it.

[Joe Rogan]

He's never been married, has no children. Interesting.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

He was close friends with John McCain. What's that supposed to mean? Well, you. Why are you throwing McCain under the bus? He's dead. He can't defend himself.

[Tim Dillon]

So Lindsey Graham is a fun, gay super villain, and you need that. You need it because.

[Joe Rogan]

And just made his way up the ladder.

[Tim Dillon]

He just made his way up the ladder.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, those guys are just, like different kinds of people. And I think that's what most normal people who live normal lives have a hard time understanding. Because if you are a guy who works at a fucking auto repair shop, you have no relationships at all with people like Lindsey Graham. You don't even think they exist. You know, it's like. You know what it's like when. Well, let me tell you something. You don't have kids, but if. When you have kids, one of the things that happens is you. You go to these things where you have to hang out with parents, and the only things that you and the parents have in common is that you both have kids. And so you have these agonizing conversations, and then you realize, oh, these people don't know any fun people. They don't have anyone in their life that lives a fun life life. And they started asking questions like, how do you come up with your jokes? Like, when you. How do you make your podcast? Who are you talking to? How do you get these people to come on? Like, what do you do? Like, how'd you get into the ufc? Like, all that stupid. But it's like, they don't know anybody who's living a weird life, right? We don't know anybody who's living that weird life. That weird Lindsey Graham life where you're all huddled up together wearing suits and ties, and you're in these, like, these halls of justice, these important. You're in the Senate room. You're in this room where everybody stands up and claps when the President says the most mundane shit.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it's also that political that. That. That political. The survival instinct. Seems like somebody has, you know, decades of being in that position.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm thinking about running.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, it's a lot of fun.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think it should be? A congressperson that probably.

[Tim Dillon]

You can't. You gotta go governor.

[Joe Rogan]

Governor, executive, what state? Let me get a.

[Tim Dillon]

We live in it.

[Joe Rogan]

No, I would never, never run against Abbott. I love that guy.

[Tim Dillon]

See, right, right then and there. You can't if you're not cut out for it. Yeah, I gotta move now. I am, I am.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll do it a different way. I'm. I gotta move somewhere.

[Tim Dillon]

Utah. Utah.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll become a Mormon.

[Tim Dillon]

And I would have a lot of fun. I think about it because I like D.C. and I think it might be fun for a few weeks to be like a press secretary. That would be great.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet those people party.

[Tim Dillon]

They. Paul, of course they party.

[Joe Rogan]

I bet they party hard.

[Tim Dillon]

They party in ways that are probably.

[Joe Rogan]

Too hard, you know? Did I tell you the one night.

[Tim Dillon]

Where documentaries about how hard they party.

[Joe Rogan]

Did I tell you one night that I went out with Dave Chappelle in Denver? Ever tell you the story?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, it was like the wildest thing ever.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's like he knew these after hours places. It was like a scene in John Wick, right? We went through an alleyway, we went through this big door into some like fucking warehouse. And then there was this bar, this beautifully appointed bar where the guy was wearing like a fucking. A tuxedo shirt with a vest on, right? And the woman was beautiful. And there was no one in the bar, right? It was me and Dave Chappelle and a few other people. And they kicked us out because Dave sparked up a joint.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Joe Rogan]

And then he took me to another place. It was crazy, but it's like he knows places where you can go and be private because he's stupid famous.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course.

[Joe Rogan]

So when you're a politician and you're a part of an industry that has existed in these shadows for decades, doing things, things outside of the public's knowledge, the full integration of the intelligence agencies in the deep state. And everybody's got dirt on everybody. And there's madams and there's all kinds of hookers and crazy going on, right? You know, so many people make it through that are like Andrew, the Anthony Weiner guy, absolute freaks. Yeah. And they're in there. They're in there deep. So that's. It's not just one of those. There's probably a shitload of them.

[Tim Dillon]

It's economy.

[Joe Rogan]

They keep each other's secrets and they probably get together and they put on masks and each other like Eyes Wide Shut. It's probably real. It's probably. Otherwise, what are they doing it for?

[Tim Dillon]

It's a good point. What is the point?

[Joe Rogan]

How do you let your hair down.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, that's the whole thing with the Obama chef. People go, the chef and I go, if you can't drown your lover in Martha's Vineyard, why do anything right?

[Joe Rogan]

Why?

[Tim Dillon]

You're the president. What the fuck is the point? I mean, truly think about leaders throughout history. What is the point of not being able to kill your lover in two feet of water when he's a great swimmer?

[Joe Rogan]

He's a great swimmer and very fit. And none of it makes. Made any sense.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's like, that's the whole point.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, what happened to that investigation?

[Tim Dillon]

There will never be one.

[Joe Rogan]

Weird.

[Tim Dillon]

There's never going to be one. Because at the end of the day, I don't think America really wants to know. I don't think they want to know.

[Joe Rogan]

I think Tucker Carlson wants to know.

[Tim Dillon]

Tucker might. He's maybe one guy that wants to know. But even him, does he really want to know? It's, that's a whole thing aside, the.

[Joe Rogan]

Guy on that claims he sucked a Obama's dick. I know, that's. They talk for an hour.

[Tim Dillon]

I know, but that's the thing. It's like I, I think that there's a deep, deep misunderstanding of what this place is. And it's not only, you know, it's not only like crazy like odds of sex parties and stuff like that, but we've, we're, we're doing a lot of things all over the world that people don't really know about. Nobody's abreast of what we're doing. We're doing things in Africa, we're doing things here, we're doing things there. We've got a lot of, we got a footprint everywhere and we're backing people that sometimes are people we align with our values. A lot of times they're not. Right. The whole Israel, Gaza thing is a big problem for Harris. It's a major issue for her in Michigan and if.

[Joe Rogan]

Interesting.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you see the reports that she was running two separate messages to two separate places? She was running a pro Israel message to one place and CNN called her out on.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And running a pro Palestine message to another place.

[Tim Dillon]

A lot of them do. They're.

[Joe Rogan]

That's, that's crazy that people are not going to check and it's crazy that cnn. CNN called around. Yeah. Do I have hope for CNN like. I think I do?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I think CNN probably recognizes. Hey, we have to actually just say the fucking news.

[Tim Dillon]

Except pharmaceutical drugs. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But everything else. Right. Just say the news.

[Tim Dillon]

And I don't know what Trump will do in that situation with the Israelis.

[Joe Rogan]

I hope Elon buys cnn.

[Tim Dillon]

I hope that we don't invade Iran.

[Joe Rogan]

I should have asked him yesterday if he was going to buy cnn. That would be amazing.

[Tim Dillon]

Imagine if he's going to buy cnn. Does CNN make any money? Money.

[Joe Rogan]

It's worth a lot of money.

[Tim Dillon]

Is it?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, because you think about the money that they generate through advertising.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's all the pharmaceutical ad that's the problem.

[Joe Rogan]

So if he buys but it's a large chunk. But the thing is like that money is real money. That's how that's what keeps him afloat. If their numbers if they had exists on YouTube, like if CNN's numbers existed on YouTube, there's no way they'd be able to support a giant fucking building filled with employees.

[Tim Dillon]

Wouldn't he be beholden to the same corporate advertisers that hold hold everybody hostage Meaning like the made the biggest advertiser in all of these cable networks is pharmaceutical companies because they're all the demographic is geriatric people watching them.

[Joe Rogan]

Well the problem is that you can advertise for pharmaceutical drug companies in this country and only two countries in the world allow it. US and New Zealand. And New Zealand's more restrictive than the United States.

[Tim Dillon]

Like have you ever watched the ads on Fox News?

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

It's all like life alert. It's like fall down in the shower.

[Joe Rogan]

What's all pharmaceuticals Fox News. If you think about it, the demographics, older scared white people. That's what I think about when I think of Fox News. Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

I guess you just got to find a way to make it profitable without those types of ads or those companies have to let you this is my point.

[Joe Rogan]

I think it's a Ponzi scheme. I don't think it is profitable without those kinds of ads. No, it won't be because it's not profitable. Based on the viewership you can get major advertisers who are willing to spend a lot of money for the prestige of being on scene. There's something to that. You know, like an ad on CNN maybe means more than an ad on YouTube. But the reality is if you look at the actual numbers, like how much revenue you're generating for your company unless you are engaged purely in propaganda. And this is the argument. So like what. What was the quote that someone said to us the other day about how it was cali means said how much the pharmaceutical drug companies spend on advertising every year year. And it's billions of dollars just on ads. Billions and billions of dollars. I think It's. Was it 8 or 80? What did he say it was? Jamie will find it.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's got to be crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's an insane amount of money. But that money is not making them money in terms of so many people are seeing those ads are going out and buying drugs. What that is doing is it's ensuring that there's no criticism. It's ensuring that you don't question any narratives.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

That all the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Types, they all get demonized. They all get called kooks. They all get called dangerous anti science people.

[Tim Dillon]

By the way, I'm excited, you know, if Trump wins. I'm excited to see if RFK really gets to like start.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at that money doing. Look at that number. 20, 23. Pharmaceutical industry spent around 15.58 billion in advertising. $15 billion in ads. That is crazy. That's so much fucking money, man.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, how are people going to know about the drugs?

[Joe Rogan]

It's not that, man. I don't think. I think it's a little bit of that because it normalizes it. It gets the words out.

[Tim Dillon]

You know what we also don't have, we don't have a functioning healthcare system.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

So it's not supposed to be like a grocery store where you pick the drug.

[Joe Rogan]

If you have a good doctor.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

You can have a functioning healthcare system. Yeah. You got to have some cash.

[Tim Dillon]

That's a problem. It's like we have everything. Everything's for profit. Everything's like there's a million. You ever go to a pharmacy in like a Scandinavian country? There's like 12 things.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

They don't have like our pharmacies are. There's aisles and it's like a grocery store of all kinds of different shit.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just a real problem. When you allow people to profit wildly off of people being sick, then they have a vested interest in people staying sick. Well, that's whether it's mental illness. Yeah. Physical illness, whatever it is.

[Tim Dillon]

What about rfkd? You think I would. It would be interesting to see him try because, you know, he's, you know, for a long time, you know, he's been an advocate on behalf of not only, you know, obviously environmental stuff that's well known, but like public health.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

So it'd be interesting to see like what, 100%.

[Joe Rogan]

First of all, why do we have fluoride in our fucking water? Yeah, that's one of the things that they're talking about that rf.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, the British People's teeth were gross.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Brush your fucking teeth.

[Tim Dillon]

Is that why? Yeah, but they have fucked up teeth.

[Joe Rogan]

I think part of the reason why they have fucked up teeth, they ate a lot of soft foods for generations after generation. Isn't that the fluoride, though?

[Tim Dillon]

That doesn't mangle?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, fluoride does have a reaction to your teeth, but, I mean, you're swallowing it. So how much of an effect is it? And also, it's really bad. It's bad for IQs. There's a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride in drinking water and low IQs in children. There's a corresponding number depending upon the amount of fluoride in the water. I think the whole way they found this out about fluoride and teeth, I think it had to do with natural fluoride. And I think it all began in Texas.

[Tim Dillon]

What is fluoride?

[Joe Rogan]

Fluoride's a mineral, and fluoride is also a neurotoxin. Like at certain levels, depending on how much. But the point is, the corresponding increase in sugar consumption is not taken into consideration when people are looking at when people started getting tooth decay and whether or not they were at fluoride in the water. We. When there's a time in our history where all of a sudden massive amounts of processed food and sugar are introduced into our diet. Like, whatever it is, 70s, 80s, whatever year it was, were sugary cereals and cookies and candy bars just came everywhere. That's when people started getting more cavities. That's also when people start experiencing all these health problems.

[Tim Dillon]

Right? All that stuff is together chronic diseases.

[Joe Rogan]

And autoimmune solution is fucking fluoride in the water. That's like saying, oh, some people get skin cancer. Let's put sunscreen in the apples. No. Hey, you idiot. Right? First of all, you can have two. You can have toothpaste with fluoride in it if you so choose. Mine doesn't have fluoride in it. I haven't had fluoride toothpaste for years.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I don't have any cavities.

[Joe Rogan]

You know why I brush my teeth?

[Tim Dillon]

Where is all this non fluoride toothpick? Can you share it with someone?

[Joe Rogan]

Tom's of Maine.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, Toms of Maine. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's good stuff. There's a lot of companies that sell. And Eddie Bravo had a really good point. Believe it or not. Eddie Bravo had a really good point that wasn't crazy. He said, why would they say fluoride free in a toothpaste if fluoride wasn't potentially bad for you. Why would anybody want fluoride free toothpaste if fluoride was really the active ingredient that was preventing you from having tooth decay?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it's also when I saw like Doug Emhoff at Whataburger or Trump at McDonald's, I was like, we shouldn't have these politicians be in these. Like they're kind of like poison factors. We should have politicians that's like kind of showing up to a Marlboro factory and lighting up like. There's something weird to me about.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, but yeah, yes, but I eat McDonald's if I'm on the road, I've like a year ago I had a quarter pound of cheese.

[Tim Dillon]

You have to stop comparing yourself to like other people because like you have a tremendous amount of discipline and it's like the nine year old getting fat at McDonald's is not going to be able. So I'm just like this celebration of fast food. Unless I love fast food and I was raised on it. My family raised me on it. Thanks. But like when you see politicians going in there, it is a weird feeling.

[Joe Rogan]

It is weird.

[Tim Dillon]

It's like odd to see that.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I, but I liken it to being at a Coca Cola factory. I don't have a problem.

[Tim Dillon]

That's bad too.

[Joe Rogan]

I know. But I think again I do have a case.

[Tim Dillon]

Got to send the military into these places. Taco Bell, Denny's, they fucked us all up.

[Joe Rogan]

I say Taco Bell now has.

[Tim Dillon]

The Mexi melt is back. Did you know that?

[Joe Rogan]

I know what the Mexican melt is.

[Tim Dillon]

It's, well, it's, it's on the decades menu. Taco Bell is bringing back things from previous decades and they've brought the Mexi melt back. They, they're fucking because Ozempic, all this shit hit and now fast food's doubling down because fast food's going, fuck me, you. They're gonna start to bring back shit. This is now coming back.

[Joe Rogan]

That does look good. That is the least Mexican of all Mexican foods.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. No, it has nothing to do with Mexico.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just garbage.

[Tim Dillon]

Food will not go away quietly. They think they're going to, oh, we're going to bring in these drugs. Fast food's like, you'll see what we'll do.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's fine. Let them do it. I'm fine with that. No one's going to mandate Taco Bell. That's the thing.

[Tim Dillon]

But there is, you know, there is something. You go to Australia and it's a nanny state. Nobody's Allowed to do anything. But you know what? They all, they're kind of hot, all of them.

[Joe Rogan]

Not only that, they have grass fed beef in their burgers.

[Tim Dillon]

I know.

[Joe Rogan]

My buddy Adam came over here and he had a. He always gets a quarter pounder with cheese and Australia, Australia, whatever the they call it. And he said, he goes, dude, I had one over here. It tastes like cardboard. It was terrible, right? He goes, back home, it's like fresh grass fed beef.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, also, they'll pull you over if you're driving in Australia, they just have TV checkpoints. No matter who you are, and you'll just go through them and blow. And obviously I'm against that because I think it's, you know, it's like an infringing on your freedom. But they love it there.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they don't have guns.

[Tim Dillon]

They go, we love it. And they go, we feel safe. But they're. It's also. They've just accepted it.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they've gotten accustomed to it.

[Tim Dillon]

But they've gotten accustomed to it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's literally. Literally a prison colony.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but they don't care. That's the thing.

[Joe Rogan]

But they do, do they? They do.

[Tim Dillon]

I've talked to Australians and they're like happy with it.

[Joe Rogan]

My buddy wants to move here.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course he does. Because he's your buddy. But most of them are like not that bothered by it. They don't care.

[Joe Rogan]

I wonder if that's true.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

I just don't know their reality. It's the reality that they live in. And you.

[Tim Dillon]

Because they look at us and they go, you guys have school shootings, you have poison food. And you, great, you get to work and drop dead and all that stuff. We are. Yes, we are. Nanny. Which I would never want to live there. But I don't know, I talked to people there. They go, yeah, they're nanny. They don't let us do things like they regulate the food or they have the dwee checkpoints. But they kind of, I don't know, they kind of accept it.

[Joe Rogan]

Interesting. There's probably a trade off if it doesn't get out of line.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, like you don't want people driving drunk. And if you just had DU checkpoints.

[Tim Dillon]

Everywhere and they all drunk drink. They're all drunk. Yeah, that's a difference.

[Joe Rogan]

But if you had those DUI checkpoints all over the place, if people just accepted as a part of life, how much of DUIs would drop? A ton.

[Tim Dillon]

But I still hate the idea of it because I'm an American and we're Americans.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, especially if you're not. Here's the thing. Like, you can piss or a blow hot for like a drink and a half, right? Like, what is. What's the tolerance?

[Tim Dillon]

I've gotten in more accidents, car accidents, so. Than I did drunk. I drove drunk for many years. Never hurt anyone. I got in an accident today completely sober, rushing to get here.

[Joe Rogan]

Was it your fault, though?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, it was. I kind of crossed into a lane. I shouldn't have, but. But it was just tires. It was a quick thing. It was a lovely man. Everybody was fine. And he'll sue me later. I'll sue him back. Who cares? You know what? Nothing matters. Everyone's fine. That's the thing about America. It doesn't matter. You can just sue people and they'll sue you back. Back. And then lawyers figure it out.

[Joe Rogan]

Bro, if you go to court in those sunglasses, you're gonna lose.

[Tim Dillon]

I may lose.

[Joe Rogan]

It doesn't matter.

[Tim Dillon]

I'll just make more money.

[Joe Rogan]

Where'd you get these?

[Tim Dillon]

I got them at Louis Vuitton.

[Joe Rogan]

I was great.

[Tim Dillon]

They're sick. I figured I'd show up with a good.

[Joe Rogan]

Tell me if I could pull these off.

[Tim Dillon]

Absolutely. You did it.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think?

[Tim Dillon]

You should have endorsed Trump in those. They are sick. They're sick. Austin. Shout out to the Domain. I'm Louis Vuitton at the Domain.

[Joe Rogan]

Can you send me a link?

[Tim Dillon]

They're great.

[Joe Rogan]

Send me a link. Before I forget.

[Tim Dillon]

Send them a link.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm gonna get a pair of those.

[Tim Dillon]

How do you. So you think it do? Does anyone concede tonight? Does anyone have a victory speech?

[Joe Rogan]

No, I think it takes days.

[Tim Dillon]

North Carolina is the first to call.

[Joe Rogan]

They say what was the longest one was the dangling chad.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, that was two months. It was hilarious. SNL was doing really funny stuff. That was when Will Farrell was booked.

[Joe Rogan]

Did you happen with SNL with her? So they have to run ads for him now. That is really funny. How to run like some 90 second AD. Is that true? Find out. That's true. Is it true? Yeah, I read it on Twitter. But you know, could be some Chinese bot planting stuff in my feed. So I say stupid things. They're watching our election 100%. He's watching like this, like, ah. Imagine voting, right? Imagine just let these fucking dumb asses pick who gets to run the military.

[Tim Dillon]

Go there so bad. Have you ever gone there?

[Joe Rogan]

No, no. I went to Taiwan once, but it was a stopover on the way to Thailand.

[Tim Dillon]

Do you like the idea of China? Like, I don't mean do you like the idea of China, but like visiting it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, I would love to visit.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

I would love to go see the Great Wall. Well, that's.

[Tim Dillon]

You're into that and ancient cultures.

[Joe Rogan]

And I love to go to my Mongolia. The elk hunting in Mongolia is a big thing. Like, there's a lot of, like, elk hunters go to Mongolia. Mongolia has like a large elk population. Population. And a lot of people aren't voting. What is this? Someone's in trouble here, right? Well, not quite. In a statement to Hollywood Reporter, FCC reportedly claimed the Brent. That Brendan's statement does not reflect their views on the appearance. Oh, who's Brendan?

[Tim Dillon]

He's.

[Unknown]

The guy was tweeting. He's one of the five members of the fcc.

[Joe Rogan]

Okay. So the agency added they had not made any determination regarding political programming rules, nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties. Here's my take on it. If you can't do a sketch on Saturday Night Live, if that's promoting a candidate, like, you have to have equal time, like, why do they have to do that? But we don't. Why is that?

[Tim Dillon]

Like, if I governed by the fcc.

[Joe Rogan]

How crazy is that? Yeah, think about that. If I just decided, you know what, I don't want to interview Kamala. I only want to hear one side of the story.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, I don't want to hear Tim Walls. I only want to hear JD Vance. If I just decided to do that, I could do that.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is kind of weird, right? If it's the number one podcast on Earth. Like, why. Why am I even allowed to do that?

[Tim Dillon]

Because you're. You're not on government regulated airways.

[Joe Rogan]

That's my point. Why, why is that?

[Tim Dillon]

We don't. We don't want that. Let's not. Let's not ask why. But we don't want them coming in.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, they shouldn't be doing anywhere. They shouldn't be anywhere. You should be able to do whatever the fuck you want.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm more for that. But here's the thing coming into this space.

[Joe Rogan]

But why is it okay to do. Why is it okay to regulate in that regard? But you're not regulating the percentage of positive versus negative news stories. Like, you're choosing. Sure, choosing.

[Tim Dillon]

I thought the regulation was just like, no tits until 9pm but it's like.

[Joe Rogan]

The rules of equal airtime.

[Tim Dillon]

Remember when Sipowitz showed his ass on NYPD Blue? Like that was a big deal.

[Joe Rogan]

It was a big deal.

[Tim Dillon]

That was a big deal. Dennis Franz, like I thought it was.

[Joe Rogan]

Did they say bullshit once, too? That was a big Deal.

[Tim Dillon]

That was a big deal. Like, I didn't bullshit on tv. I didn't realize it was like it was equal time. But, I mean, that makes a lot of sense.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think Stanhope had an issue with that when he was fake running for president because Stanhope said I'm gonna have to stop doing shows because shows almost count as, like a campaign speech and offer the opposing side equal time or something. Yeah, like, I think there's laws and we should call them. Let's call them right now. Call Stan Hope.

[Tim Dillon]

That's crazy. Yeah, that's interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

All right, let's see. See what he has to say because he actually doing. He. Oh, he's got a different number. Hold on a second. Stand up. Call Stan Hope. Bat phone. That's the real one. He's got a bat phone. I love a good bat phone. God, I hope he picks up. He's probably drinking, staring at the TV right now, yelling things, smoking cigarettes. Come on, Douglas.

[Tim Dillon]

Fuck my call back.

[Joe Rogan]

I'll text him.

[Tim Dillon]

But that's interesting, because there are all these rules that we're kind of somewhat familiar with that govern the whole thing that you're allowed to do this.

[Joe Rogan]

Douglas, I'm live on the air with Tim Dillon. Call me as soon as you see this. I have a question about when you ran for president, Jamie.

[Tim Dillon]

What about the exit polls? Is there an exit poll?

[Unknown]

Release those until the things close as well.

[Joe Rogan]

Are you. Are you anxiety ridden?

[Tim Dillon]

No, I don't think so.

[Joe Rogan]

Are you worried at all about this? I mean, about the election? Not in general. Not really.

[Tim Dillon]

I have more anxiety about other things in the election.

[Joe Rogan]

What's the big. Well, me.

[Tim Dillon]

We all Google weird diseases and shit. Yeah, I don't do that, you know. Well, I mean, stay healthy.

[Joe Rogan]

Come on, Tim, let me get you healthy.

[Tim Dillon]

It has nothing to do with that. Weird diseases attack healthy people all the time.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, mean, like Ebola type stuff?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, the stuff that you people just get. Stuff. Oh, nobody can do. Sit ups to the brain so a brain tumor doesn't happen.

[Joe Rogan]

You might be able to.

[Tim Dillon]

No, you can't.

[Joe Rogan]

I think I'm. That's.

[Tim Dillon]

You think so? And that makes you feel good. But that's great.

[Joe Rogan]

Great.

[Tim Dillon]

That's great. You want to live for 300 years? For what? That's the whole thing.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm enjoying myself.

[Tim Dillon]

No, I'm enjoying myself too. But you want to live through the Jake Paul administration? Like what?

[Joe Rogan]

I'm gonna be his VP.

[Tim Dillon]

It's 82 degrees in New York.

[Joe Rogan]

Jake Paul running.

[Tim Dillon]

It's 82 degrees in New york City right now, it's. I don't know, it matters who wins.

[Joe Rogan]

The election, you know, it's worse than 82 degrees.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Minus 82 degrees. Everybody wants. Everybody's scared of global warming. Listen, you don't want the ice age.

[Tim Dillon]

Nobody wants the ice age.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but these eggheads want to spray in the sky to protect us from the sun's rays.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, nobody wants that. It just feels like eventually the planet will expel us. You don't think so?

[Joe Rogan]

No. The only thing that's gonna happen to us. Look, the planet could fuck us up. If the planet hits us with the big one, that could get us for sure. Oh, I'm on do not disturb. Hold on a second here. The big one that could get us for sure is. Yeah, or super volcano. Either one of those could really, really fuck us up. Because those are real and those happen all the fucking time. So that, that's, that's our number one problem is a natural disaster. A supernova in a nearby galaxy would kill us. Any sort of like real blast from the sun would wipe out all our communication system and our grid. There's things that have definitely happened in the past that if they happened today, we'd be fucked. But I think our biggest threat is us. I think our biggest threat is these crazy motherfuckers that are making all sorts of money off of war and they keep pushing these agendas in these countries and they're pushing international conflict that we're all involved in.

[Tim Dillon]

Absolutely.

[Joe Rogan]

And it's nuts. And I don't think it's going to last much longer. And I think that's where they're getting hyper focused on getting things done right now. I don't think you're going to be able to do this when you have sentient artificial intelligence. I think that is the end of all that. That's the end of all this global thermonuclear war. That shit's all going to go away. I think what they're doing right now is this mad dash to control as much resources and power and money as possible before the entire fucking world changes. And you have robot aliens living amongst us. Elon said yesterday that he thinks that. What year did he say how many years? 20 years from now there'll be more robots in Earth than there will people or in America.

[Tim Dillon]

Wait a minute. More robots than people in 20 years?

[Joe Rogan]

What was the year? What was the timeline he gave us 10 to 20 years. There would be robot like Tesla robots, these robots he's making. I said, and I Was like imagine if you just robot bodyguards. You walk down the street, you got two Terminators with you.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Is this good though?

[Tim Dillon]

Him doing all the robot like let's bring all the better than a lot.

[Joe Rogan]

Of other people doing it. Yeah. He's moral and ethical about these ideas. He's one of the first people to sound the alarm about artificial intelligence.

[Tim Dillon]

That's good, that's important.

[Joe Rogan]

He was like, you're going to make our successor. Like in these fucking. People are just running towards this cliff.

[Tim Dillon]

But no one knows that we got to merge.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Well he believes now because he's running his own AI the large language model that they use for Twitter Rock. And he's got a, he's got another startup is involved with, with Nvidia. Like there's. He's. I think he feels like he got it. Who's an early investor in open AI and I think he's suing them right now because it's not, it's not open AI anymore. Now it's like a private company. It's the whole situation with whether or not they've achieved artificial sentience came up. Yeah. Remember when they kicked out Sam Altman for a little bit? He brought him right back in. Like what the, everyone's like what the are you doing? I don't know what was going on there. What explanation. But he's, he's worried that there's a race going on. If the wrong people win that race, it's, it's terrifying. We're. If China wins that race and China apparently whether it's open AI or one of these companies, there was some sort of a leak or some sort of a break in or they believe that someone had access to their information.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

See if you can find what that is. Whether it's China, China that they think.

[Tim Dillon]

It'S scary to imagine the wrong people.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Tim Dillon]

Having that power.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly, exactly.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's.

[Tim Dillon]

It's for any group of people, having.

[Joe Rogan]

Any group of people, not just wrong people because the right people will be. They'll be. Can fuck up and they're also. It's absolute power. A hacker stole open AI secrets raising fears that China could too. Security beach at the maker of Chat GBT last year revealed internal discussions among researchers and other employees. Employees, but not the code behind OpenAI systems. Okay, so they didn't get the code but they got internal discussions. But those internal discussions may have had clues as to like what direction the technology is headed and maybe solve some puzzles that they didn't know yet without, you know, and Then you could have, who knows if that's all they got, because there was speculation that they got other things. You know, China's done a wonderful job job of like infiltrating stuff. One of the things that Mike Baker pointed out is that there's like a nuclear facility like, or rather a military facility that is in I think Wyoming and all around the area. The cell phone towers were all sold to America by the Chinese that they just make deals with.

[Tim Dillon]

J.D.

[Joe Rogan]

Vance, we'll sell you cheaper stuff.

[Tim Dillon]

There was a surveillance apparatus built in America that the Chinese backdoored and now they are using some of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me tell you what happened in Austin, Let me tell you what happened in Austin at Formula One. My buddy Bobby owns that racetrack. So I was there with him and he shows me this picture, says, you know what this is? I go, what is it? And he goes, someone attached a device to our broadband, to our WI fi where it was siphoning up people's data like someone had attacked. They found it and they got it and they called whoever it is Homeland Security or whatever the fuck is. But so if you go to like a big event and you're using the open WI fi, there's a real chance that someone has set up a thing where they're going to siphon up all that data and who knows what the fuck they're going to use it for. Whether they're getting your passwords to your credit card account or whether they're getting this or that or passwords to social media sites, emails, whatever the fuck they're getting. But if you're just willy nilly using a VPN or not using a VPN and going and getting on WI fi and some police place like you, you, you run the real risk of actually being compromised.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And like what are they getting? Like what are they doing with all that stuff? I don't know. But if you sell, if you're a hostile government and you sell cell phone towers to your enemy.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, no, it's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

And you just got these dudes who just contractors who are working for the government. They're not like the, the most sophisticated of investigative reporters. They're just like, guy who has a job, he has to buy a certain amount of these cell phone towers. China will sell them to us for this, while we can buy from these other companies for a lot more. Let's just get it from China, right? And next thing you know, they can drop in on any kind of information that they want. Who knows, there could be a third party access that no one is available, no one is aware of until they activate it. Yeah. They could just decide to shut all these things down. They might have a kill switch in them, but you're buying. Like, that's why they banned Huawei. They banned Huawei because they found compromises in their networks.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then they. They knew that the company was aligned with the Chinese government. They're like, hey, you got to get out of here.

[Tim Dillon]

They're very good at it. It's corporate espionage. They're incredibly good at it. They've been good at it for decades.

[Joe Rogan]

And they're the best at it. But we do it, too. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, Trump was right. Like, we do it, too. What did Huawei get popped for, Jamie? Because I was mad because this is back when I was using Android and I wanted a Huawei phone because we.

[Tim Dillon]

Should just give it to them.

[Joe Rogan]

They made the best phone.

[Tim Dillon]

Let's just give it to them.

[Joe Rogan]

In what way?

[Tim Dillon]

Meaning, like, you know, it's like all this data, they're trying to just give it to them.

[Joe Rogan]

What are they going to do with it?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, I mean, they're stealing. They're stealing stuff. Let's just give them the patents.

[Joe Rogan]

They've been banned or restricted in multiple countries due to the security concerns. Huawei was added to the U.S. export Administration's regulations Entity list, which made it harder for the company to obtain parts from U.S. suppliers. In 2022, the U.S. banned the sale and import of new Huawei communications equipment due to national security concerns. So what were the concerns, though?

[Unknown]

I think they're like. They have to report back to, like.

[Tim Dillon]

Tick Tock is a problem, but it makes so much money that we'll. We'll just constantly.

[Joe Rogan]

We make money from TikTok too, right?

[Tim Dillon]

No, of course. But that's the thing that China realizes that if you can make. If Americans make money, they're never going to care.

[Joe Rogan]

Some lady was heckling me at a show here. She's. You work from tick for TikTok. Oh, yeah. It was hilarious. US banned the sale and import of new communications equipment from five Chinese companies, including Huawei and zte, amid concerns over national security. What did they do, though? What did they. I think there was something to do with routers. Huawei and others have previously denied supplying data to the Chinese government. Yeah, there was something about wi fi routers and different things that they thought could be spied upon. That's what, like 5G networks band?

[Unknown]

Yeah. For 5G in other countries.

[Joe Rogan]

I don't know, but they used to make dope. Well, they probably still do. They made dope phones. There was this Porsche design collaborated with Huawei and made like the best cell phone. And I was trying to buy it and then I found out you can't buy it in America anymore. I was like, what? And that's. That's when I started looking into it. So that's like 2021 or something like that. Whenever it was. What was the year the band was put in place.

[Unknown]

They have a sweet one I wanted to get right now. It's trifold.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. It's badass. That's what I'm saying.

[Tim Dillon]

Just get it.

[Joe Rogan]

We're getting.

[Unknown]

Can't use it.

[Tim Dillon]

Why want to?

[Unknown]

You could use it on wi fi here, but like you couldn't.

[Joe Rogan]

It won't do all the stuff. Well, they can't. It doesn't even use Google. They don't use the Android operating system.

[Tim Dillon]

Because I want a Chinese phone.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you know that like China got. They. They stopped using that because Huawei got banned from Google. Find out if that's true. Huawei. They weren't allowed to use the Android operating system anymore either.

[Tim Dillon]

Isn't there.

[Joe Rogan]

Which is interesting.

[Tim Dillon]

TikTok. That is different in China.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, very different.

[Unknown]

Wait, it says it still runs Android 10, but doesn't support Google apps and services.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Why did they do that? Why'd they ban them from Google apps and services? There must have been some sneaky shit they had.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

It's just hilarious. But there's other Chinese companies. Like one makes great phones. Yeah. I believe that's a Chinese company. You know, there's like. There's a bunch of phone. You men.

[Tim Dillon]

We're just in this globalized world now where you just. This is inevitable.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, we have to troubleshoot world where China is making some things better than we are.

[Unknown]

Yeah, Same reason.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

Spying concerns.

[Tim Dillon]

You just have to keep. You stay. Stay as vigilant as you can to try to prevent this from happening. But they're very good at it. It seems like that's not going to stop.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, China's making.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm worried about all kinds of things that they're doing. They're buying up the real estate all over America. They own large swaths of some of our biggest cities. I mean, it's like they're aggressive on a few fronts.

[Joe Rogan]

It's kind of crazy. They're allowed to buy land around military bases.

[Tim Dillon]

It's unreal.

[Joe Rogan]

That's like. What?

[Tim Dillon]

Unreal.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine trying to pull that off in China. And that's the Difference between having a guy who's been in power for fucking decades really knows how to run the country versus some person who got elected in a popularity contest.

[Tim Dillon]

So also a difference of when people see the country as it going out of business sale. I mean, you're selling farms, selling everything, you know, from out, out from under everybody. And yard sale. It's the way people are treating America right now is just a throw a sign on it, make your best offer, come in and loot.

[Joe Rogan]

Isn't it funny that if you said you have to be American to buy American property, people would be up in arms.

[Tim Dillon]

They'd be up in arms and they'd say it's racist. And the real estate lobby would come out and go, it's racist because they want that Russian, because they want that ol$.

[Joe Rogan]

You were the one that told me first about these apartment buildings in New York City.

[Tim Dillon]

They're. Yeah, they're like ghost cities. This is another thing. We all go, and I just read these things. They go, look at these Chinese ghost cities. They built all these cities and nobody lives in them. And I go, if you go to any of these buildings by Central park, there's like 20% of it occupied, 30% of it, 70% of it is straight up money laundering. Where it's people that have purchased multiple apartments under the name of an llc, see, a limited liability corporation. And by the way, they've got a lot of them. There's not just one, there's so many of them shell corps that you can barely find who owns it, and it causes the price of everything to go up. And they're not living in the city, they're not contributing. They're not tipping at restaurants, they're not buying tickets to Yankee games. They're doing it to move their money out of Russia, China, the United Arab Emirates, Brazil, India, wherever. They're stashing it in these buildings and it's causing the prices of all of the real estate around it to skyrocket.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, the real estate in New York is la.

[Tim Dillon]

It's, it's even in, you know, cities like Austin, obviously there's not as much of that, but, you know, but there are foreign buyers in this market.

[Joe Rogan]

Pushed it up everywhere. Everywhere, everywhere. Sold for a whopping two. Oh, my God.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

This apartment sold for $238 million, the highest recorded price for a residential property. Billionaires rose a home to eight ultra luxury skyscrapers, each equipped with luxurious amenities ranging from cinema rooms to saunas.

[Tim Dillon]

Look at that. The average sale price, $9.8 million. And that's in that part of the city, that is the part of the city that is the favorite of foreign money.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at it says here, as of 2022, there are 772 unpurchased units because.

[Tim Dillon]

They'Ve built these buildings specifically for money laundering. Money laundering, wondering, wow, this is not built for regular rich people. Most regular wealthy people cannot afford to live in a $50 million apartment. Or 238 or 238 million dollar apartment. So the whole thing is incredibly, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's completely manipulated. So it's not a real market that has anything to do with supply and demand. It's artificially manipulated by a lot of wealthy people. And then the real estate lobby loves it. They want, and the developers like it. And so those big money people love it.

[Joe Rogan]

And you know, what's the money, how's the money laundering part of it work?

[Tim Dillon]

Because they take money out of whatever country and then they stash it in America in real estate. So they'll come in and buy something, cash under an LLC and that however much money that would have been in their home country. Because some of those countries are volatile and the governments of those countries could decide, okay, you all have money, it's 20% of it's now ours, right? Here's the new tax, right? Give me, I mean there's people that try to do it here. They propose wealth taxes, things like that all the time, right? Some of them are, some of them are, make some sense, some of them are ludicrous. But those people are a bit paranoid. There's also political instability in a lot of those countries. And then there's people that just don't like taxes. And, and there's people that have made money, narco trafficking, human trafficking, doing all kinds of things, right? So there's people that go, I have a lot of illicit capital that needs to go to real estate in London. There's an area in London called Mayfair. It's all Russian oligarchs. There's areas, you know, and London is even more than New York. London is the MO is the home for international money laundering. Really, it's the shadiest city in the world. It's really cool. It's a lot of fun. It really is. I mean, that's the thing about these people, they are fun. And London is a financial capital halfway between New York and Asia. You have the biggest money in the world in London because historically it has been, you know, New York's amazing. And New York's the greatest city in the world in the sense that I think it's the most representative. But London has always been the home of, like, international finance since, I mean, you know, I mean, we're talking about, you know, it goes like. There's a part of London called the City of London. This is a small little part of it. And it's an area called Knightsbridge. And that's where they have like one Hyde Park. And one Hyde park is this building with like $150 million apartments. And all these Saudi kids are driving like Bugattis and Lamborghinis there and everything. And they have Harrods is there, the famous store. And it's just a signal to the ultra wealth. This is where you come. You want your kids to be raised as, you know, British gentlemen and learn the ways of. But it's a home of like, international finance and it's been. It's a cool place. But you don't. I don't know how you unwind all of this. You don't, you don't really unwind it now.

[Joe Rogan]

I mean, also, most people don't understand it.

[Tim Dillon]

So they don't understand who's going to.

[Joe Rogan]

Run it, who's going to. Where's all the money going to go.

[Tim Dillon]

It's hard to fight these people because they, that's the problem. It's like everyone kind of wants to be them. And then the people that don't want to be themselves, them, you know, they will kill you. That's the prop. They will blackmail you. And if that doesn't work, they will kill you. This is the thing, because they are the top of the food chain. And when you are at the top of the food chain, you're not going to give that power up without a tremendous fight. And I think that's really where a lot of, A lot of it comes down to, is they're preserving their position on the top of the hierarchy.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine if the United States States made a law where you couldn't buy real estate unless you're an American citizen. New York City apartment buildings would. It would be a bloodbath.

[Tim Dillon]

But by the way, not only would it be a bloodbath there, it would be a bloodbath everywhere. And then people would look at their 401ks and go, all these. The shit I'm invested in is tanked. That's the other problem, because all, all of the stuff they're invested in is based on a lot of investments being made by Those companies like BlackRock and Vanguard and State street and Citadel or Goldman. Right.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's just one of the creepiest things they're doing is buying residential homes and leasing them to people.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, because they don't want people to own their homes. They don't want people to have the power of homeownership or the dignity of homeownership.

[Joe Rogan]

Is that what it is? Or is it's profitable to buy homes and lease?

[Tim Dillon]

It's profitable because they. But they.

[Joe Rogan]

That's why they're doing it. Do you really think there's like some insidious, obvious, like, thing like they don't want people to have homes? Like, really?

[Tim Dillon]

Yes, because I think they go that. I think they look at it and say, americans will be happy renting. I mean, that's the famous article. By 2030, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But that's just those Wef dorks.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but those Wef dorks are incredibly powerful amongst a crew of people. They all get together, they all these conferences, whether they meet. And it's again, it's not like, always nefarious, but they go to, like, Davos or Bilderberger, whatever. And this idea that five, that's the thing people talk about, why should you preserve culture? Is it racist to preserve culture? And I don't mean the specific culture of any one race, but this idea that you want to preserve culture. And people go, well, why is it good to preserve traditional culture? Because there will always be a culture. So if it's not Italian culture, Irish culture, Mexican culture, culture, black culture, whatever it is, it's going to be soulless, global corporate culture. That's why every hotel looks the same. That's why every fucking apartment looks the same. Because the same people are choosing the same 10, you know, shades of marble and shades of wood, and they're putting up all of these different condos and all these office building. That's why all these cities are starting to look the same. Everything looks like a weird Airbnb. It looks like they 3D printed everything. That's why all these restaurants are starting to look the same, because it's soulless corporate culture. Americans, just like people all over the world, have less and less financial power, and more and more of it is being consolidated on the higher end. And they're going to say, you're going to rent your house, you're going to take Ubers everywhere, you don't need to own a car, you're going to take whatever vaccine we think is good, you'll drive your car on Thursday, or you'll be able to Uber on Thursdays because of climate.

[Joe Rogan]

You're not going to be able to.

[Tim Dillon]

Uber whenever you want, or you won't be able to use this amount of water or this amount of heat or this amount of energy. And all of this are going to be edicts delivered to you from the government, but also by these corporate oligarchs that just own everything. And it's going to be a very bland and soulless world.

[Joe Rogan]

It'll be Times Square.

[Tim Dillon]

It'll be Times Square, what Times Square used to be, but somehow worse versus.

[Joe Rogan]

What Times Square is a giant Applebee's now.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right, it's a giant Applebee's. And it'll be that serene, cold, corporate desperate feeling that you get now when you walk into like a St. Regis, and all these hotels are all owned by Marriott, the Ritz, or any of these hotels. You walk into these hotels and it's all gray. It's all gray. And it all looks like a conference room and everything. Nobody's. Nothing's loud and hello, and how are you? And no one can do anything. Oh, we're sorry about. Yeah, we were not able to do that. We don't have that. We can't do that. And everybody's rule followed, Everybody's cameras trained on everybody. So God forbid somebody does anything. Like you try to tip people, sometimes they go, thank you, I can't. I mean, we're not allowed to. And you're just loot. Because everybody's terrified of losing their job. Everybody's terrified of upsetting these people. Everybody's on camera. And, you know, it's like, it sucks. The whole thing is turning into that. And I think as much as, you know, there's a lot of conspiracies about the World Economic Forum and all that stuff. Some of them are probably are based in reality. Some of them are just crackpots. But one thing that I think is very real is all of those people, those organizations, they exist to create a consensus amongst the wealthiest and powerful people that it is better to favor this set of policies over that one. And all of those policies inevitably take power and ownership away from people and reappropriate that and redistribute it to wealthier people, the government and big corporations, 100%.

[Joe Rogan]

Said, that's a great way to put it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And those people, you don't know anybody like that. Like, you know, you don't know anybody like Lindsey Graham. So you don't know the game they're playing.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, speak for yourself. I Have a lot of friends, but. And I'll be taking. I'll be taking care of very well. No, I. I don't know. You don't.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, saying you're not. You're not in that group.

[Tim Dillon]

You meet the kids of them sometimes, and they all believe they're doing the right thing. They think it's great. And they're. They. I was, you know, I met. I was in an environment where I met some of these Harvard kids and Yale kids, and they're. They're all nice people. They're good people. They're fun people, but again, they just. They have these beliefs that are.

[Joe Rogan]

They're in a cult.

[Tim Dillon]

They're drilled into them since they're young. And this is the problem with the Democratic Party. It's maybe why they'll lose this election. Maybe they won't. Maybe they will. It's condescension and they're condescending and they're dismissive of people, and it's a kind of elitism that seeks to convince you that it is for your own good that they are in charge.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. That they're your mama, they're your dad.

[Tim Dillon]

They know better than you.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. And that's the. Like, the thing when they talk about misinformation, disinformation, don't you know. You know the difference. Right. If you know the difference, why do you assume other people won't know it?

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

Like you want to say that other people are stupid and they're not capable of making these decisions or discerning what's true and what's false by themselves. So you want to eliminate anything that you disagree with and just call it misinformation information.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And that. Not only that, but it's to demonize people. The demonization of podcasts, the demonization of people that, you know, are willing to have conversations with people they disagree with. It's all done to discredit anything that runs counter to that narrative. It's the same reason they don't want people to have social engagements that have any value or a lot of times the reason. And then if somebody says something mildly pro family, they flip the out because they don't want people to have a strong community with a family or a social arrangement that's fulfilling to them, where they aren't dependent on not only services from the government, but also they're not dependent on the government to tell them what is valuable and meaningful in life.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And if the government tells you that it is meaningful and valuable life to support the things that they support and you internalize that, then you're just going to be led around by people and you'll be doing the things they want you to do. And that's why they. They get very threatened when people say things that are even mildly suggest that people are happy having children or, you know, whatever the case may be, they flip out and they go, well, you can't tell me what to do. And it's like nobody's telling you what to do. But the idea that, you know, people having families is controversial or saying that it's a fulfilling way to live or, you know, to me, it's very strange when people kind of prey on your loneliness and they prey on your vulnerability to shove a bunch of stuff down your throat that would be harder to sell you if you had a family and. Or a business.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Or a house or a stake in your community. I don't think they want you to have a stake in any of those things.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. And so logically, as they achieve more power, they will have to get people to go along with these things.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

And the way they do that is through forming these narratives. They have to counter these narratives. Is the popularity of podcasts, because the narratives, like, if they only had the mainstream media, they would be so much further ahead.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

Imagine if they only. If, like, there was never anything on the Internet other than websites and email. Nobody ever figured out social media.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So nobody ever figured out, like, we'd put up a new on the ground.

[Tim Dillon]

In the Ukraine right now. I'm not. I'm not even kidding.

[Joe Rogan]

We probably would.

[Tim Dillon]

If they was just the mainstream media. We would have boots on the ground in the Ukraine currently.

[Joe Rogan]

Jesus Christ.

[Tim Dillon]

A thousand percent there. I'm telling you, there's. I'm as sure of anything as that fact.

[Joe Rogan]

Tell me it wasn't one of the wildest things in the campaign when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris and the left was like, yay.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it proves that it is now a raw power grab and that no one cares about anything.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And you know, I've seen. I've lived long enough now to see the left admonish the CIA and the FBI and now cheerlead for the CIA and the FBI. I mean, in 2003, you would see seething op eds about the power of Dick Cheney, Halliburton, the military, the defense contractors, Iraq, the quagmire. Remember that word that no one uses anymore to describe a foreign entanglement. All of those people that supported the Iraq War. All reinvented themselves as Democrats and now have jobs at MSNBC dc. Some of them have jobs in the Biden administration. Some of them have jobs in center right or center left think tanks in Washington D.C. and all of those people, they care. Dick Cheney has a lot more in common with a lot of the people that are running the Democratic Party, obviously, than he does with their voters. Their voters loathe Dick Cheney. The people who run that party don't hate him as much as you'd think.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, that's. That's a scary thought. Very. Did you see Liz Cheney on the View and Whoopi Goldberg was. What was she saying? She should be the head of the CIA?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. No, I mean, it's, it's. It's hilarious.

[Joe Rogan]

Can you imagine she said something crazy like that.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, what are you doing? I thought you guys didn't like that stuff. I thought you guys were the anti Iraq war people. I thought you guys were the anti weapons of mass destruction people. Liz Cheney for Kamala Harris's Attorney general. Attorney General. Wow. Whoopi Goldberg begs for it. That's what it is.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Well, it's a weaponization of the justice system. It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. The whole thing is so weird to see people abandon what it used to be to be a leftist. It used to be uncomfortable. Discussions are good. It's good to be able to have communication with people that you disagree with. Free speech is imperative. It used to be that education should be objective. And it's very important. Important. And you counter bad ideas with good ideas.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it just became untenable, I think. I think leftism was driven out of the sphere.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, just went so far left. It became a different thing.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. But it became left in a way that wasn't about workers rights or economic justice. It became left in a way about, like, aesthetic identity politics that prevented any discussions about CEO pay or health care or anything like that. It just became. And I think they're really enthusiastic people about that ideology. Things are pretty good.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So I think there's a lot of people where things are good enough in their lives to worry about whether we have a trans Batman.

[Joe Rogan]

100%.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And I think that's the thing. I think a lot of the enthusiastic proponents of that stuff believe things are great and they're only getting better.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And to sell a campaign and listen, she may win, it's early in the day, but to sell a campaign on the world joy is utterly insane.

[Joe Rogan]

It's also kind of a revenge of the Nerds thing too, because it's a complete polar shift of identity hierarchies. The people that were the weirdos and the freaks, the trans people, all of a sudden those people are at the top of this hierarchy of oppression and celebrated above all.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's also used to be those.

[Joe Rogan]

Are the ones who cast out of society. Society.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's also like this, this idea that you need to keep identifying ways to divide people.

[Joe Rogan]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

And there's no other, there's no better way to do it than to, to claim that everybody threatens everyone else.

[Joe Rogan]

I, I agree with you, but here's a question. Is this a natural thing? Is this like a natural thing that humans do when they find a vulnerability in a social system system, they attach themselves to it, whether it's white guys pretending to be black, you know, a couple of those, you know, those kind of situations, like there's. There seems to be. People attach themselves to something and then they sort of subvert it. But do you think it would have existed anyway? Do you think that someone has a vested interest in keeping us divided and so that these social issues, like whatever it is that comes up, like whether it's blm, any kind of social movement that creates disruption, do you think that those are engineered and those are injected into the system to make people have things to fight over?

[Tim Dillon]

I think there's a balance. I think that there's organic rifts and fissures in society that allow certain sentiments to bubble to the surface, like blm, like the war in Gaza and the problems and the protests that are happening there. But the minute that stuff happens, I believe people seize on the opportunity and exploit it and fund those things and bust people into those protests and exacerbate that moment. Because it is, I think, a defining, you know, when Rahm Emanuel said never let a good crisis go to waste, you know what I mean?

[Joe Rogan]

Such a crazy thing.

[Tim Dillon]

When he said, never let a good crisis go to waste. They are telling you, it's like when Lindy Lindsey Graham says, I want that money. Like, give me that money. I don't want Putin having that money when they're saying it in front of your face. When Rahman Manuel says, never let a good crisis go to waste, the whole ethos of that statement is to seize on organic problems and exacerbate them and then inject whatever agenda you have so that, you know, you can, you can then wrestle more power away from human beings.

[Joe Rogan]

100%. 100%. That's well said.

[Tim Dillon]

It's like, it's crazy to watch because when I grew up, I grew up in the 90s, it was a time of like Doc Martens and people drinking fishbowl size cappuccinos and coffee houses and everybody was weird. And it was a. There was a individualism in the 90s, Kurt Cobain and people in Seattle killing themselves and making great music and rap and all this and flannel and you, you remember it and. But there was an individualism in the 90s that was kind of like. I remember, you know, my parents saying me once, like a friend of mine did something stupid and they go, well, if you jumped off a bridge, are you going to do it? It's like there was just this idea that you didn't have to go along with everybody else. Standing apart from the crowd made you, you unique and an individual and good. And it meant that you had value.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, Nirvana killed hair bands because of that. Yeah, Hair bands became silly. Right, right.

[Tim Dillon]

There's no idea that I've seen attacked more than that. Being a free thinking individual is coming under fire and has over the last few decades. Like, I've never seen the coordinated attempt to make you think, think. Not only do you have to agree with everyone that you're responsible for everybody, that what's good for you is good for them, or what's good for them is good for you, and that we're all in it together and all of these things. And none of it is from a place of like, let's feed the poor. None of it's from a place of like, let's help. All of it's from a very weird, nefarious place of like, we move as a block. We are one consciousness business. And again, not in the Bill Hicks good way. In the way of like, we're going to condemn the people we dislike. We're going to expel them and cast them out. And then we're going to reward the people who will come along with us. Because again, we are this, you know, blob of shit that is just picking people up as we go. But I miss those days of kind of being like, yeah, man, who cares? Like, you think one way, I think another way. And it's not the end of the world now, it's the end of the world.

[Joe Rogan]

There was less influences. You think about the influences. Like, I grew up in the. I was in high school in the 80s, right. So in the 80s, what we had was whatever was on the radio, right? Whatever was on MTV when that came out was like, oh my God, mtv. Yeah. And what you saw on television at night when usually watching TV with your family after dinner or something. Like, you have very little access to the rest of the world. And now you're inundated constantly 24, 7. And there's a bunch of people that you wish you were. A bunch of people that you wish. I wish I looked like her. I wish I was tall as him. I wish I had the money that she has. Every. Oh, look at that car he's got. It's the same shit. And everybody gets locked into this. This fucking weird.

[Tim Dillon]

Voyeurism.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, voyeurism. Narcissism beyond. It's probably more like habitual narcissist today than probably ever before.

[Tim Dillon]

How many people that cannot afford houses are watching people buy mansions on TV? There's 20 shows about, you know, people buying houses.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, famous real estate channels on Instagram that are just showing you houses you could never fucking afford.

[Tim Dillon]

And half of them suck anyway if you saw them in person. Just like the people on Instagram. But like this weird voyeuristic thing again, it's part of the flattening of everybody with technology, where people. Individualism has been likened to being heartless or soulless or uncaring and that you are not invested in the welfare and well being of others. Which is not true, by the way. Thinking freely does not mean you don't care about people. It means you're not going to swallow narratives that the Defense Department has handed to msnbc. That doesn't mean you want people to live in the street.

[Joe Rogan]

Exactly.

[Tim Dillon]

But this is, you know, people just don't like that idea. We're just a collectivist mindset now. We're like people. You, you have to be on the same page with everybody.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think it's inevitable and I think it's moving us towards a very uncomfortable reality that most people are not willing to even, like, look at. But we're. We're becoming a different species. We're becoming a different thing.

[Tim Dillon]

That's interesting. I think that's true.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I mean, I think that's one of the side effects of plastics and all the hormonal effects that people are having because of this, all the phthalates in people's bloodstreams. I think it's an effect of staring at screens all the time, Becoming accustomed to staring at screens, preferring interactions online to people in person because they make you anxious.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, that's why people. That's such a great point. People now talk about all the time, like, why doesn't anything feel the same Right. No city feels the way it did five years ago. And I think one of the reasons is because we live so much of our life now digitally.

[Joe Rogan]

There's that, but then there's the veil of a controlled society that completely collapsed during COVID That's right. The veil of there's someone who understands how the system works and they're running it efficiently. That's why the subway's on time, that's why the streets are clean. Clean. It's because someone's running it and they're doing a good job. And then all of a sudden something happens and these people tell you everything has to shut down for a year and a half in la. And you're like, what are you talking about? Why are we poor now? Why is everybody broke? Why is it dangerous? Why are cars on fire? Why are they smashing into these stores and no one's doing anything about it? The veil got completely removed. So LA seems vulnerable now. When I go through la, it seems vulnerable. It seems like a beaten kid. Like just something about it.

[Tim Dillon]

There's a real dark. There was always a darkness there. Now I spend so much less time there because there's just this foreboding, hellish reality that just. I don't know what it is, but it's like everyone's on edge.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a dissolving of an illusion.

[Tim Dillon]

It's dissolving of an illusion.

[Joe Rogan]

The illusion is a sophisticated, functional society.

[Tim Dillon]

It was also a place that. Think about this. Los Angeles was built on the manufacturing reality.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

For a long time.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

And the ability to do that now has been greatly diminished. And the magic of the movies and this idea that you can fully suspend disbelief and all these things, I think a lot of that has had a real impact on that place because the inability, you know, they used to be able to make a movie that would convince you about an event. They would, they would drive home a narrative through a movie. They've done this a million times.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Now by the time they do that, there's 10 documentaries on YouTube, there's been a million podcasts, there's been a. Yeah. So they've lost control. And Hollywood was really this myth making institution that. And it was all built on very. And listen, they made a lot of great stuff, a lot of movies we all love, but a lot of it was built on like, the exploitation of women, of children. All these horrible things that have now been unearthed.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Every documentary is crazy to watch now. It's like, remember that 90s show you watched and you go, jesus, no. And they're like, those kids were kept in a cage and fed like dogs. You're like, God damn it. Like, nothing you enjoy, like the Nickelodeon stuff. It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's bananas, you know, but it makes. Makes sense.

[Tim Dillon]

It makes sense.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Because you have vulnerable people without a lot. There's nobody who cares about people in that town. And the only people that have credibility in that town are people that have made other people a lot of money.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And those are the people that were able to get away with it and do whatever the hell they wanted. So that town's just in deep trouble.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it's just dark.

[Tim Dillon]

It's dark.

[Joe Rogan]

It's darker now also. And one of the things that happened during COVID was when you shut down production for a year and a half, and then no one goes to the movies for a year and a half.

[Tim Dillon]

Habit is broken.

[Joe Rogan]

Habit's broken.

[Tim Dillon]

Habits broken.

[Joe Rogan]

Date nights. Not go to the movies anymore.

[Tim Dillon]

I was in Joker 2, which just came out. It's the worst film it's ever been made.

[Joe Rogan]

So bad.

[Tim Dillon]

It's the worst film that's. It's actually not so bad. It's the worst film ever made.

[Joe Rogan]

Why?

[Tim Dillon]

Well.

[Joe Rogan]

You think they did it on purpose?

[Tim Dillon]

No, it's a. I think what happened after the first Joker was there was a lot of, like, talk, like, ooh, this was loved by incest. This was loved by the wrong kinds of people. And this sent the wrong kinds of male rage, nihilism, you know, all these think pieces. And then I think, what if we went the other way? And now they have Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga tap dancing to a point where it's insane, but is it possible.

[Joe Rogan]

That he didn't want to make a sequel? And then he said no.

[Tim Dillon]

I know Tarantino said that. I mean, it's a quarter. It's a quarter billion they did that with. If that's true, it's the most immoral thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Joe Rogan]

Or brilliant. Brilliant protest.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't think it's a brilliant protest.

[Joe Rogan]

Wouldn't it be fun, though?

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know. Is it wasted everybody's time? Just make a good movie. You could have done it, you know, just get out the. Stop dancing.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think? What would motivate them to make a movie that's that.

[Tim Dillon]

Because they wanted. Because it's hubris, number one. The idea that you could. That people love it so much, they're going to accept it in any version of it.

[Joe Rogan]

Do you think you would like it if it wasn't connected to the original Joker.

[Tim Dillon]

No, it has no plot. It has no plot. We would sit on State. We would sit there, me and these other guys were all dressed in these fucking security outfits because we're working at the Arkham Asylum. And I would turn to one of them and we'd hear this crap. And I'd go, what the fuck is this? And they go, this is gonna bomb, man. They go. I go, this is the worst thing I've ever. We would talk about at lunch. We go, what is the plot? Is there a plot? They go, I don't know. I think he falls in love with her in the prison.

[Joe Rogan]

Is it worth going to see? Because it's bad.

[Tim Dillon]

It's not even hate watchable. That's how terrible it is.

[Joe Rogan]

But is it one of those things like Showgirls?

[Tim Dillon]

No.

[Joe Rogan]

Where it's so bad you could watch it?

[Tim Dillon]

No, because it's like. Like you're sitting there and there's these people, you know, in the theater, and they're all confused, and I'm watching their reactions, and they're all, like, staring and everything. And, like, it starts like, oh, it's raining and it's Arkham Asylum. And you're like, okay, cool. And then there's a moment where Joaquin Phoenix just goes, for once in my life, I have someone who needs me. And he just. And he starts. Breaks into a musical, just becomes a musical.

[Joe Rogan]

But hold on, let me back this up. Yeah, let me back this up. Don't you remember when Joaquin Phoenix went on Letterman and he had, like, this.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

He had some crazy fake Personas. Like, he did something where he pretended to lose his mind.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes. A rapper or something, right? Yes.

[Joe Rogan]

What was he doing?

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know. He was like.

[Joe Rogan]

What did he do? For a while, Jamie.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, he did this. This is.

[Unknown]

He was going to pursue a music career. This was 2009.

[Joe Rogan]

You've got a nice beard going and. Oh, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

How is that? The beard, in my way? Well, is it comfortable?

[Jamie]

Is it itchy? Is it.

[Joe Rogan]

Are you pleased with it? I'm okay with it, but now you're making me feel weird about it. I'm sorry.

[Unknown]

That's a long interview.

[Joe Rogan]

But that's okay, man. Let him know. Is a. He was a wizard at interviews.

[Tim Dillon]

Great.

[Joe Rogan]

He was so good. He's the best, in my opinion. Of course, guys.

[Tim Dillon]

Thousand percent.

[Joe Rogan]

He's just so good at.

[Jamie]

It's a lovely film, really.

[Joe Rogan]

Now go back before that, because that's. He's wrapping it up, so. But Joaquin Phoenix was acting weird and so people decided, oh, Joaquin Phoenix has lost his mind. Right. Didn't like the interview. And then kind of people went cool on him. And then he did like a documentary showing that he was like playing a character for a while. Right. Is that what he was doing?

[Tim Dillon]

Like, I think so, yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's just like an art piece he was doing.

[Tim Dillon]

This could have been a $250 million practical joke.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what I'm saying.

[Tim Dillon]

Maybe it was.

[Joe Rogan]

This is the same guy.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah, maybe it's a fun quarter billion dollar practical joke.

[Joe Rogan]

If you're Joaquin Phoenix, you're the king of the hill, right? You're like one of the biggest movie stars in the country. You're the guy from Gladiator. Right. Like he can kind of trick Hollywood dummies.

[Tim Dillon]

I think they thought that, that this would be received differently. I don't. I think they thought. I think they're maybe in a little bit of a bubble.

[Joe Rogan]

I think Joaquin Phoenix is alone in his house right now laughing that he pulled that off.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't think he even knows he did it.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, same guy that did this thing.

[Tim Dillon]

I know he's like, he's crazy. I think he's an actor, so I don't think he exists. I think it's just like what the new part is. He becomes that.

[Joe Rogan]

Joaquin Phoenix tells Letterman I hope spoof didn't offend you. Actor apologize to late show host for awkward interview that features in new film. I'm still here. So he was doing that as a part of the film. That's the idea. So the film is that he was acting like he was a crazy person.

[Unknown]

Yeah, it was like a documentary about him making music.

[Joe Rogan]

All they had to do here, all.

[Tim Dillon]

They had to do was blow some it up, have him escape from prison, have him do something, get a, get a couple of scenes in the courthouse or something, it says.

[Joe Rogan]

Throughout, Phoenix was trailed by actor Casey Affleck, who is his brother in law and a film crew. The result, I'm Still Here was released this month as an ostensible documentary about the corrosive effects of celebrity and wealth on a now drug addled actor in the profession since he was a child. So the idea is that they did a documentary on how fucked up he was and so he went on Letterman to act fucked up. Right, But I think it was a goof.

[Tim Dillon]

No, it was a goof.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But he was. Elaborate spoof. It was all elaborate. Okay. It was Affleck who confirmed what many suspected, that it was all an elaborate spoof last week telling New York Times that Phoenix had given a terrific performance as the performance of his career. So he just acted like he was drugged out and out of his fucking mind. Mine for a spoof?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like, this is the kind of guy that would trick those Hollywood dumbasses into making a musical sequel to.

[Tim Dillon]

If he did that, then that's great. I don't know. I know that he was raised in a cult when he was a little kid, and his name was Leaf. So whatever he does, God bless him, he's a brilliant actor.

[Joe Rogan]

He changed it from Leaf to Walking. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's going the other way, you know, I mean, the guy's brilliant, but the movie was just. I mean, God, was it rough?

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy because the first one was so good. He was so believable.

[Tim Dillon]

The first one was really great. And then the second one just went. And if you were a fan of the first one, the second one was, like, kind of, I think, insane to a fan of the first one.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, it wouldn't be the first time.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It'll be like, if Godfather 2 was about, like, the Corleone family going legit. You know what I mean? Like, and apologizing for the Mafia.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

You, like, they were like, hey, I'm sorry we did all this.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

We now have a bakery. It just. It went completely the other way.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it sucked.

[Tim Dillon]

Anything this. Has anyone won?

[Unknown]

Get something out one minute before the first polls close.

[Joe Rogan]

One minute just now.

[Unknown]

I mean, so I don't know.

[Tim Dillon]

I think there's. There's definitely got to be something.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm waiting.

[Unknown]

I'm checking every website.

[Joe Rogan]

There's definitely stopping, like, exit polls and all that. There's got to be.

[Unknown]

That's what we're waiting for.

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, there's only, like, three or.

[Unknown]

Four states that close.

[Tim Dillon]

Then North Carolina is early. Right.

[Unknown]

The only discussions I can see is what's going on in Pennsylvania. What's going on?

[Tim Dillon]

So what's going on there?

[Unknown]

I don't know. Trump said that there's some cheating going on.

[Tim Dillon]

He's certainly gonna say that. If there is, then there is what he's talking about.

[Joe Rogan]

Yet when he was on the podcast, I wish he could just rattle off.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm open to it, too. Just tell me what it is. Tell me what. I hear you.

[Joe Rogan]

It's like, he's like, there's so much evidence. So much evidence. We have so much evidence of cheating.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, but a lot of people close to him say There isn't.

[Joe Rogan]

Who's those people? How many. And how many of those people are covering their ass?

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know, but Mike Pence probably.

[Joe Rogan]

See, that's what I'm talking about. Like, that guy, is he covering his ass? Yeah, he just endorsed Kamala Harris, too. Yeah, they wanted to kill him. There was people that went to Jan on January 6. They were looking for him, allegedly. And supposedly.

[Tim Dillon]

No, no, no, for sure. But I'm wondering, like, I'm open to the idea that there was fraud, but, like, a lot of top people, like, people that were in his orbit. Don't talk about, like, he talks about it.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But. Okay, so let's take Pence out of the equation, because he's probably salty.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, for sure. But I'm saying, like, Pence didn't. If there was evidence, wouldn't he, like Pence, have said, all right, let's not certify it?

[Joe Rogan]

No, that is a crazy thing to do.

[Tim Dillon]

Right. Okay.

[Joe Rogan]

For the vice President to stand up and say, I mean, you're. That's essentially like you're. You're getting ready for a fucking major conflict.

[Tim Dillon]

Gotcha.

[Joe Rogan]

You know what I'm saying? Don't you think like that?

[Tim Dillon]

No, for sure. I just. We just need someone.

[Joe Rogan]

That guy doesn't want that kind of heat.

[Tim Dillon]

For sure. We need someone outside of Trump to verify it.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, like, who would that be that you would trust implicitly?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, you would just need to see evidence. It would just be like, if I made a claim about anything, I'd have to provide evidence.

[Joe Rogan]

But let's. Let's imagine that you were working with someone like Trump and you're like a top guy and you know there's no election interference. You know that the election integrity was 100%. You know that he's not telling the truth. How could you stay with him? How could you stay with him without laying it out to him like, sir, can I just have an hour of your time?

[Tim Dillon]

Well, I think a lot.

[Joe Rogan]

Explain to you what the problem with saying that it's rigged. Here's where you can say it's rigged. Okay. For sure. There was 100% involvement in social media companies suppressing information that would have changed the results for sure, at least in some percentage in one way or the other.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And I'm. Listen, I'm open to it being that there was in other ways. I just think that just like anything else, you can't take someone's word.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, he says there's a bunch. He just didn't have it on hand.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But I would imagine that you've. If you're. There's something you been talking about for three years, like, if you ask me.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Important stuff in my, like even stuff like, if you ask me about, like jiu jitsu.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

I could tell you all these different things that have happened. Yeah. I could tell you why this is important and why that's not important.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And that's like a minor thing relatively to. You lost the President of the United States. That's a major thing. And so if you knew that you had been cheated to the point where you're willing to talk open openly about the fact that they cheated. They cheated me. This is how I know. I would want to be able to rattle off.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes, he should.

[Joe Rogan]

I would want to be able to say we found there was 25,000 inconsistent votes in this place. We know that there was manipulation of this thing or that thing. Tell me. Yeah, you should have that ready.

[Tim Dillon]

Ready to go.

[Joe Rogan]

Ready to go. Because I agree that's a. It's a thing that we don't want to think is true. But if we're going to put our fucking necks out there and agree with it or at least entertain it, you.

[Tim Dillon]

Have to have those.

[Joe Rogan]

Got to have laid out.

[Tim Dillon]

Bullet points.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, Laid out. You know, but I think he's just so busy. He's probably got other people doing that and they're all telling them that it's stolen and he just listens to them and doesn't.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Doesn't have that stuff like, ready to go.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, yeah. I mean, listen, Steve Bannon brought up an interesting point the other night on Megyn Kelly where he said they had lost by a certain amount of votes. Votes. Or Biden had gotten however many more votes on Obama. Whatever. But also the Republicans picked up like a ton of House seats, which he goes, there's something fishy about that where it's like all these people are just voting Republican down and then Biden. So there were things. And again, I'm not enter talking about the veracity of it. I'm just saying there's some suspicious. There were some suspicious things that he felt was fishy or tricky or whatever. Now, I don't know. No, again, this has been a thing that's been over the heads of. Whereas you have people on the right that go, it was stolen and don't know any of the evidence.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Then there are people on the left that go, he's an election. He's an election denier. Which they also did with the Russia gate stuff for Years said that he was installed and a compromise or whatever. And then I think there's just gotta be, like you said, there's just, there's gonna be more information about whatever happened.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Well, the, the idea of breaking into voting machines goes way back to the HBO documentary Hacking Democracy about George Bush. Remember that? About the die bolt machines?

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

And the fear, and this is back when I was a hardcore lefty, the fear was that the Republicans were going to be able to rig the vote with these machines.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Because the people who made those machines were contributors to the Republican Party.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Now it's the other way now. Now the right is constantly worried about Dominion.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, they won that lawsuit. Dominion won that lawsuit.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. Against Fox News. Correct. Because Fox was saying things that it didn't have evidence.

[Tim Dillon]

How's the best way to do it? Is it paper ballots, Voter id?

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

You have to have an id.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I would imagine first of all, of course you should have to have an id. The only reason why you wouldn't want someone to have an ID is because you want to cheat. You have to have an ID for everything. You got to. What about a membership cost Costco? Why not?

[Tim Dillon]

Let's do that. Because maybe you lose your ID that day, but maybe you can go in and say, here's my finger.

[Joe Rogan]

Why not? Why not?

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, some biometric thing.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, biometric could be easy. It could be something you register for on your cell phone. They always have your face now.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

You show up. That's not hard to do in this day and age. But the idea that you wouldn't want anyone to have id, that means you want people voting that shouldn't be voting. And we know that that happens. That's been proven that at least in certain circumstances people are voting that shouldn't be voting. And the only reason why you would want that is because you want to cheat. So the only reason why you would want no ID is so that you could cheat.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

So now I got to go. How much do you cheat? So you're willing to cheat in that way. You're willing to cheat where you are willing to block information that would have changed the bill.

[Tim Dillon]

They've always been willing to do that.

[Joe Rogan]

I think you're willing to cheat where you tell people they don't have to have id.

[Tim Dillon]

They've always been willing to do that. And then the right has been willing to do things too that compromise the integrity of things for sure, 100%. And, and, and you just got to figure out how to do like an actual election that is fair.

[Joe Rogan]

It's AI and it's. It's going to be president AI.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I think we're going to give up government to artificial intelligence once it's vastly superior to us.

[Tim Dillon]

That's what makes sense.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, it does make sense, but I think it's on our path. What we're talking about before, about people becoming more frail and more like feeble and like the British people. Were you talking about their teeth? You know, that's from. It's from your jaw.

[Tim Dillon]

All British people.

[Joe Rogan]

Don't get mad at me when people have small jaws like in your.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, they all have scurvy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. It's literally from eating mushy food because they.

[Tim Dillon]

Because they have bones. Aren't mushy peas and they have scurvy.

[Joe Rogan]

Your bones aren't as thick anymore because they're not chewing meat. You're not breaking things down with your teeth. You don't have to crack. So your jaw like, over time becomes smaller and smaller.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. There's actually a technique called mewing. And this guy figured out this technique where you can change the shape of your jaw with exercises and tongue pressure and that. There's other guys that I have a thing that I use at home. It's like I weightlift with my jaw. It sounds crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But there's these weights. It's like a rubber ball and you put it in your teeth and you fucking mash down your teeth. Interesting. And it builds your jaw muscles and it makes your jaw more square. Like literally works. You do jaw exercises. And that's the reason why these people for a long time are eating mashed potatoes and gruel. Like they're poor as their jaws all shrunk.

[Tim Dillon]

Interesting.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a good theory. It makes sense.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Like you would need like. That's one of the reasons why people have to get their wisdom teeth removed. Our jaws are getting smaller. We're not like breaking down tough meat anymore. So the shape of our face looks different.

[Tim Dillon]

So eventually there's just going to be a bunch of AI government. We're going to slim instead of these tiny jawed bitches.

[Joe Rogan]

Look at aliens, right? You look at the aliens. They always have a little tiny jaws.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Big ass head. That's.

[Tim Dillon]

The next 10 years are just going to be unreal.

[Joe Rogan]

We're going to be those things, I think those things that we see that people keep seeing even if they're not real.

[Tim Dillon]

We become.

[Joe Rogan]

That's us in the future.

[Tim Dillon]

The grass.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, we sexless genderless cyborgs.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Or maybe even completely artificial by that point. Maybe we realize that consciousness can actually be captured and that we all share it and there's no benefit whatsoever in being an individual, that it's just a cheat code that the primate used in order to think of itself as important enough to continue to innovate to the point where it creates artificial intelligence.

[Tim Dillon]

Now, if she had run on that instead of the word joy, I would have voted for her.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's where we're going. I think that's what all this gender transitions. Yeah. I think that's why male hormone levels are dropping through the floor, which is all a big part because of sedentary lifestyle and also because of these estrogens and plastics and all these different things that are with people's reproductive cycles.

[Tim Dillon]

Do you think we've been here before?

[Joe Rogan]

In what way?

[Tim Dillon]

In this. Do you think humanity's ever been in this spot before?

[Joe Rogan]

I think humanity's been in a different but similar spot.

[Tim Dillon]

Okay.

[Joe Rogan]

I think that's what ancient Egypt was about. There's no way that level of sophistication could be achieved unless those people were beyond what anybody is thinking about from people that lived 5,000, 6,000 years ago. There's just no way. There's literally no way.

[Tim Dillon]

Because God figure into this at all.

[Joe Rogan]

Wow.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know if God's real.

[Joe Rogan]

God's everything, right? If God's real, God's the universe. And there's like a powerful creative force that didn't just made Earth and bunch of stupid people that were in a garden and this bitch talked to the snake, ate an apple, right? No, God made the whole thing. There's a real God. He made the whole thing. And the whole thing is made by what? It's made by the universe, Right? The universe makes itself, Right? So the universe is probably God. So, yeah, God plays into it. But I think there's a direction that primates go in and it goes into, like, ever more weak and feeble, but much more capable with tools. And it happens with some, like bonobos, they're super peaceful. They just fuck each other somehow or another. There's chimpanzees that are murderous monsters that just run around carrying each other apart, killing each other, Tribal wars, killing monkeys. And then these other ones just fuck.

[Tim Dillon]

Each other and chill.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Like, what is that? Like, there's just like that seems like they're a little bit more evolved.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

That's probably how humans were. And then humans eventually figured out tools and. Right. And we became what we are now. Well, we're going to keep going in that direction. So. We're so much weaker than even a monkey. You're like a monkey will tear your fucking head off. Like, we're so feeble. And we're going to get Feebler. It's going to be smarter, way smarter. Yeah. We're going to be communicating completely with our minds. We'll probably never need sounds anymore. We'll probably never use devices, places. Everything will happen in your mind.

[Tim Dillon]

What's the fun of all of that?

[Joe Rogan]

What's the fun of being a chimp? Is that fun? You want to throw for the rest of your life and eat bananas? Get the out of here. I want to drive a Cadillac. I want to watch a movie.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

But I want to call people on my phone that are nowhere near me. Right. So what's the purpose in being a person? You're filled with anxiety. You're worried about who's going to win the election. You're trying to stay off drugs, but you want to sell cigarette.

[Tim Dillon]

Right?

[Joe Rogan]

What's the point? What's the point in that stupidity when you can be an enlightened being that flies through space with your mind?

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, well, I never thought about it like that.

[Joe Rogan]

If Lazar's telling the truth, Babasar, the guy that supposedly back engineered these crafts, if that guy's telling the truth, he said there's no controls inside those devices.

[Tim Dillon]

When they're empowering them with their mind.

[Joe Rogan]

There'S some connection between the entity and the device. That's not an interface like we think of like a joystick and button so that you push.

[Tim Dillon]

So evolved. It's a different thing.

[Joe Rogan]

It's a different thing, but it's probably different thing. It's probably what we become because we didn't always have clothes. Well, of course, think about clothes and shoes and your silly sunglasses and all this stuff.

[Tim Dillon]

This is silly.

[Joe Rogan]

They're beautiful. I'm. They're silly because I don't have. Of course, when I have them, you're right.

[Tim Dillon]

We're advanced.

[Joe Rogan]

We're advanced. So we're so much different than chimps.

[Tim Dillon]

It's a chance. Evolution didn't end with thumbs.

[Joe Rogan]

It's our distant, distant, distant cousin. But if you look at them and you look at us like, what is going on with them? Why do they have to have clothes? Like what is. They're wearing coats and jackets and they all have shoes. No one works walks barefoot at all.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

Like we're softening ourselves up.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

We're like literally putting a nice shell over Ourselves. So we become a squid, like some.

[Tim Dillon]

So you think if you come back to this planet in 50 years, if it's still here.

[Joe Rogan]

Robots, robots, robots. I think no more biological life in terms of humans. Wildlife will exist. All that stuff will exist. No more people. I think.

[Tim Dillon]

Really?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. I think people are the cocoon. We make the electronic butterfly. It comes out of the cocoon. We don't know why we're making the cocoon, but we're making the cocoon. Everybody gets the newest phone, Everybody has the newest tv. Look, it's got WI fi built in.

[Tim Dillon]

So do you get a skin suit?

[Joe Rogan]

You don't even. You're not even going to be biological. I think we're going to give up.

[Tim Dillon]

Are we going to be able to.

[Joe Rogan]

This is what I think they're going to do. I think they're going to integrate first. I think we're going to be cyborgs. It's going to start with things like.

[Tim Dillon]

Can I get that now?

[Joe Rogan]

You can get.

[Tim Dillon]

Can I sign up for it now? I don't want to wait.

[Joe Rogan]

But you don't want to be an early adopter like those girls who got those lip jobs.

[Tim Dillon]

I'll take the chance. Many of them are in Miami. They're fine. These. I will take the thing now. It's just. Sounds fun. It sounds good. I want to be in a vehicle without communicating with my mind.

[Joe Rogan]

So there was a guy who branched off. He was one of the original guys with Neuralink. He branched off the Forum, his own company, and they just created an implant that allows blind people to see if you can find that, Jamie, I think it is like you wear goggles. I think it's like there's a whole thing. I don't think it's like as simple as they put in your head. But again, cell phone used be a suitcase that you carried around.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And you had to like open the suitcase to get your phone out and pull the antenna out. Now it's this little tiny thing that you'd be on for 24 hours in a row.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Watch movies.

[Tim Dillon]

But this is eventually going to be inside of us. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And then inside of us.

[Tim Dillon]

That's a good point. Because then you go the next step.

[Joe Rogan]

We had the first Neuralink patient on and. And he controls a cursor with his mind. And he said when he plays games, it's like a cheat because he's got like an aim bot. So everywhere he sees is where the cursor goes. He doesn't have to go hand to eye. I goes to cursor. Instantaneously. So he's like, I don't miss. I just like you look at where you want something to go and it just goes there. That's controlling it with his mind.

[Tim Dillon]

So there's going to be over the next however many years, different generations. You know, it's just like iPhones.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes, for sure, sure. Science Corporation. Imagine that's your name. Science Corporation. How, what? How uncreative is this? The Chinese front. Science Corporation. That sounds like a fake. Science Corporation, a biotech startup launched by a Neuralink co founder claims it has achieved a breakthrough in brain computer interface technology that can help patients with severe vision loss. In preliminary clinical trials, legally blind patients who lost their central vision received the companies retina implants which restored their eyesight and even allowed them to read books and recognize faces. The startup announced last week. Whoa. To my knowledge, the first time that the restoration of the ability to fluently read has ever been definitively shown in blind patients. CEO Max Hodoc Hodak, who's a president of Neuralink before founding Science Corp, said in a statement. Holy. What does it look like, Jamie? Me show what it looks like. I want to see what it looks like. Sounds crazy. Science Corporation. Good luck finding that on Google. What are you gonna find? Oh, it's in the first one. Prima. All right, what does it look like? So this is the implants. Where is it? So where does it go? Oh look, they're showing you. So they stick it back there, the back of your eyeball. Look how tiny it is. Holy shit, man.

[Tim Dillon]

I love how. By the way. It's just Americans are like, look, you'll be able to see the oven.

[Joe Rogan]

So he has to wear glasses. And the glasses work with that implant. And now he can see things.

[Tim Dillon]

This is crazy. It's amazing.

[Unknown]

Except for people who lost their vision, right? You have to already have some sort of.

[Tim Dillon]

They couldn't like you gotta have some vision.

[Unknown]

Yeah, you have to know a basis of.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, I don't know what things look like.

[Unknown]

How could you recognize someone's face if you never saw it before?

[Joe Rogan]

Well, you wouldn't until you saw them and then from then on you'd be able to recognize their face.

[Tim Dillon]

These political texts are so crazy. They're still coming in.

[Joe Rogan]

What are you getting? Oh, I just telling you where to go.

[Tim Dillon]

This woman had my phone named Janina and I guess she was a big democratic donor or not. You know, she's. Because they're like junior Janina, we're panicked. Can you please answer? Have you voted? I'm like, we're panicked, right? I go, I don't know what to do.

[Joe Rogan]

Janina, are you going with it? You fucking with her?

[Tim Dillon]

No, because it's just a bot. This is what we're talking about. It's all AI. It's just bots going like please vote yes or no. Are you a Republican?

[Unknown]

5,000 votes counted so far only who won?

[Joe Rogan]

Who won out of the 75,000?

[Unknown]

I mean, I don't even know where they're from.

[Joe Rogan]

From.

[Unknown]

It's 49,000 for Trump, 24,000 for Harris.

[Tim Dillon]

So even now.

[Joe Rogan]

What is CNN? What is your suspicion of what's going to happen? What's your suspicion?

[Tim Dillon]

It was, you know, I think it will be him. But I also thought that it's very close and I think with Row, that was a 1x factor 100%. That was the only X factor factor I had thought about.

[Joe Rogan]

I think without that, not just Ro, but that thing that I brought up with J.D. vance, which some people believe is true. And apparently there might have been a case in Texas. Jamie, I know you're googling, but. Yeah. Where we were talking about women in a place where it's restrictive. Like Texas has a six week law, which is crazy because you don't even know you're pregnant in six weeks. You barely missed your period. Right. Especially if your period's like not regular. And then if you go to another state, state where abortion is legal and they find out they can prosecute you. Right?

[Tim Dillon]

So that's the type of stuff I think that could you. She could win on that, right? Because that is crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's not just crazy, it's gross. Because here's why it's gross. Not just because you shouldn't be able to tell people where the fuck to go and where they can go and do things that it's illegal medical procedure. But imagine if you're a woman who gets pregnant and you have a miscarriage and you go and visit your mom who lives in Oklahoma where. Where abortion's legal and then you get questioned as to whether or not you had an illegal abortion. You get in that. That's a. You imagine like no, it's crazy. So you lose your kid and your heartbroken.

[Tim Dillon]

That's the one thing where I could see a groundswell of women coming up for her and she could win.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Because that's for sure. The idea of that is attached to these apps, right? So there's apps that women can use to track their ovulation, right. So they track their menstrual cycles through these apps and if they get the data from these apps and the apps show that you lost your period or you didn't have your menstrual cycle and then you went to Oklahoma, it doesn't mean anything. But you are. We're going to let people investigate people's bodies.

[Tim Dillon]

No, it's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

It's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

It's. It's insane. That's. That's the worst direction it could head because they made one headway, Roe versus Way, they got rid of it. So now it's up to the states. Well, that makes it sketchy. And now if the states are going to prosecute people for traveling to other states, well, then now you're. You're saying the state is in control of your body.

[Tim Dillon]

No, that's crazy.

[Joe Rogan]

Your ability to go somewhere in America.

[Tim Dillon]

Whether or not you agree with it.

[Joe Rogan]

Or don't agree with it. He said he wasn't aware of that, and we wouldn't want to do that.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

But I think that this is a thing that was brought. Brought up. See if you can find that in. In Texas.

[Unknown]

The case I found in Texas, I don't think it had to do with out of state abortion. I might be wrong, but.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, it had to do with. In state.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, Europe handles this all kind of well. It's one of the things they do. They just have like, whatever their rule is and everyone's okay with it. And it's just the thing is they.

[Joe Rogan]

Have a restriction as well. They do. We're talking about France. I'm gonna go to Europe where a woman's right to choose, but they have restrictions.

[Tim Dillon]

No, but it makes sense that everyone. No one cares.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes. It's like there's a certain time where you can't do it anymore because it's viable outside the womb. And it's, it's. It's Bill Burr's bit.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You know, I think a woman should have red shoes, and I think you're killing a baby. Like, both those things are true.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, it's like. It's just these issues. The problem is some of these issues that can be solved. And like, when Fetterman said that thing about immigration, he goes, yeah, nobody wants to solve it because it's good for everybody. There is something to me that's about all of these issues that seem weirdly like people are against any type of rational common ground.

[Joe Rogan]

I think you're right in that. I think there's. There's definitely some truth to that. I think some people do want things solved late term. And there these, these things are these political beach balls that get tossed around a concert.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

And one of the ones that people were terrified of if they got rid of Roe v. Wade. The next one was gay marriage.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Because they were like, no, a marriage between a man and a woman. And that was what people were worried that all this stuff is coming out of religion.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, I think a lot of it's going to go to states rights. So I think where you live will determine a lot of your freedom. Freedom. And that, that I think they've said they don't care about gay marriage, but I imagine that would come up. And I imagine that Lindsey Graham does.

[Joe Rogan]

Not want to give up half his stuff. Right. I don't believe.

[Tim Dillon]

Neither do I. Marriage itself, I believe.

[Joe Rogan]

Mineral.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Good for him. I'm more with him on that in the mineral front. But no, I think that of course, these things will probably go to popular votes. And it's because people are uncomfortable with the courts and telling them that they have to believe a certain way or think a certain thing. And that's the whole thing is it's like you can, you can vote with your wallet, you can vote with your feet, you can leave a state. Obviously, I am for a woman's right to choose. I am not an elected official in Missouri. I have no power there. I do not live there. I have no influence at all over a woman's body in Missouri, positively or negatively. It's like there are things, this is this crazy big contrast country where, yes, I would agree that a lot of things. But I also, I didn't agree with a lot of things that they've done.

[Joe Rogan]

Wouldn't you, if you wanted to. This is an interesting wheel. You want to play 4D chess. Like if you wanted to get rid of the Republicans and you're a rhino, you're like a sneaky fake Republican. Yeah. Wouldn't you like push to get rid of Roe v. Wade? Because one of the things that Roe v. Wade is going to do. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know how much.

[Joe Rogan]

Here's one thing that Roe v. Roe v. Wade is going to charge up a bunch of women who don't want men telling them what to do. So they're going to want to vote Democrat. Right. And they're going to go out in large numbers. And if you do that, at the same time, you're shipping all these immigrants into all these swing states. Right. And then you have those folks join the Democratic Party, too. So they're all voting Democrat, too. Now you have a reason why you should want to take over. Over this red area and turn it blue because these fucking men are trying to tell these women what they can and can't do. It's like one more layer on the cake that you're allowed, that you for sure. Like the percentage support. You'll get more percentage support. It's like a good idea. If you were like a creepy puppet master that was controlling the strange civil unrest in the country.

[Tim Dillon]

If the Democrats had said, listen, we're not allowing any gender experimentation on kids until they're admitted adults, and we are not, and we're going to enforce the border law. And Biden had said, I'm serving one term. And they had a primary. Trump probably wouldn't be back. He's back because they opened a fucking door. His main issue is immigration. They literally exacerbated it. 10 million illegals came over the border. And then people are incredibly uncomfortable with their children being indoctrinated in schools with this crap.

[Joe Rogan]

So I think he would have been back anyway.

[Tim Dillon]

He might have been back, but I don't think he would have won.

[Joe Rogan]

I think they thought he ripped him off. They ripped him off, and I think he was.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't think he would have. I think. I think the reality is they've given him on a silver platter. His biggest issue, which is that people want a country.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, what do you think they would do to beat him? So if he's back, if Biden does say that he steps down, who is running?

[Tim Dillon]

You know, Fetterman's obviously not mentally there to run, but a guy that has that. You need a working class guy who goes, we need a country. We need to have a distinction between citizen and non citizen.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

The social contract has to be. Otherwise we have an. A social contract with. No, it's invalidated completely. When you're bringing people in from all over the world and the government is promising them things and they're getting votes and they're. And they're. They're replacing Americans in certain, you know, manufacturing jobs or whatever. You don't have any sense of a country.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

And you need a country and you need a working class person who's not condescending and somebody who goes, look at the Tavistock Clinic in the UK that just closed. Why? Because experimental transgender therapies for children is a science that is not only not settled, but it is doing damage to people. This is why that clinic. Clinic. Clinic's full of progressives. That said, we're shutting this down because we're making a lot of Fucking mistakes that are irreversible. And these are human beings. If you take away those issues, then the Republicans have to run on an economic platform that may or may not be that popular. But the Democrats chose instead to elevate DEI to talk about the most important thing in America's diversity, equity and inclusion. Conclusion. They chose to convince everyone, all the cap, the social capital that they spent convincing people how important it was to support the Ukraine with no plan and no end game and open ended and ditto, you know, whatever Israel wants to do. And maybe we'll have to go into Iran and like to get all of that and to explain that to people. And they didn't even explain it that well, but they kept telling people how important it was. They could have easily, easily, easily crafted a message that was, that was rational and sane. All they had to be was because Trump is a lot. And I think there's a lot of people in America that would have said, hey man, we should just move on. It's chaos, it's all chance.

[Joe Rogan]

But here's the question. Who's the spokesperson? So if you don't have a primary, who would it be? Gavin Newsom's not trusted.

[Tim Dillon]

No, it's got to be someone we barely know.

[Joe Rogan]

Kamala Harris is already the vice president, so you have to choose her. Well, it's like, because if you're going to go with all that DEI stuff, you're going to go all with. But here's the thing. If you're going to go all in with like this idea that we need a woman of color who's the president. Yeah. Which is one of the things that they were saying all along. He was going to do that. And I was like, why not just have the best person, right? No, you have to have a woman. It's okay. You've already accepted that you have her. She's the vice president. She's been there for four years. Like she knows how shit runs. It's automatic.

[Tim Dillon]

It's automatic unless you change course and.

[Joe Rogan]

You have a primary and someone competes against her.

[Tim Dillon]

You have a primary and you got to find. I don't know. I don't know who that person is. I don't know every Democrat in the country. I don't know every Democratic congressman, governor, senator.

[Joe Rogan]

One person that stood, that stands out. Like any person that colors outside the lines, like Tulsi Gabbard, that gets fucking ostracized.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, we have. Well, the lines have to change. That's the problem. The problem is the lines have to change. You cannot Be beholden to. To extremists. And then on one side you have the extremists, on the other side you have these like corporate oligarchs that are demanding fealty to foreign wars, endless trade agreements that don't benefit workers, you know, hollowing out the middle class. And this was all stuff the Republicans were all about in the 80s and the Democrats were about in the 90s under NAFTA and stuff like that. So if you transform the Democratic Party again into a workers party with common sense, reasonable considerations, and it's not based on religious fundamentalism and it's not based on woke fundamentalism on the other side.

[Joe Rogan]

How do you get people out of that that are in that where it's like part of their tribal identity. Like, how do you get people to relinquish.

[Tim Dillon]

You need a figure that rejects it. Like, I think you need somebody to reject it publicly. When Bill Clinton had that Sister Soldier moment, right. When Bill Clinton opened the Sister Soldier moment, where she had. She was a rapper or something, she said something about America and he corrected her. I forget exactly what it was, but it's a moment where Bill Clinton was running for president and he went against and you know, and establishes bona fides as a, you know. Here we go. Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

What was the this? I kind of remember this.

[Unknown]

You going to play the video?

[Joe Rogan]

Sure, let's play the video. Hey.

[Jamie]

Let'S stand up for what's always been best about the Rainbow Coalition, which is people coming together across racial lines. You talked about Mr. Fields from Louisiana that you had here last night, a great role model. We don't have a lot of time to do this. We don't have a lot of time. You had a rap singer here last night named Sister Soulja. I defend her right to express herself through music. But her comments before and after Los Angeles were filled with a kind of hatred that you do not honor today and tonight. Just listen to this. What she said, she told the Washington Post about a month ago, and I quote, if black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people? So you're a gang member and you'd normally kill somebody. Why not kill a white person? Last year she said, you can't call me or any black person anywhere in the world a racist. We don't have the power to do to white people what white people have done to us. And even if we did, we don't have that low down dirty nature. If there are any good white people, I haven't met them. Where are they right here in this room. That's where they are. I know she is a young person, but she has a big influence on a lot of people. And when people say that, if you took the words white and black and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech. Let me tell you, we all make mistakes, and sometimes we're not as sensitive as we ought to be. And we have an obligation in all of us to call attention to prejudice wherever we see it. A few months ago, I made a mistake. I joined a friend of mine and I played golf at a country club that didn't have any African American members. I was criticized for doing it. You know what? I was rightly criticized for doing it. I made a mistake and I said I wouldn't ever do that again. And I think all of us have got to be sensitive to that. We can't get anywhere in this country pointing the finger at one another across racial lines. If we do that, we're dead and they will beat us. Even in Reverend Jackson's new math of this election, it's hard to get to a 34% solution or a 40, 40% solution. If the American people can be divided by race, That's.

[Joe Rogan]

If he ran on that today, he beats everybody.

[Tim Dillon]

This is what I mean.

[Joe Rogan]

In a landslide.

[Tim Dillon]

That's what I mean.

[Joe Rogan]

That's what a Democrat used to be.

[Tim Dillon]

That's what I mean.

[Joe Rogan]

How good was that guy, by the way?

[Tim Dillon]

The best.

[Joe Rogan]

The best speaker that's.

[Tim Dillon]

And the best person. But no, but what I mean is that had Kamala Harris repudiated.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

A lot of what happened in the madness of 2020, 2021, all that stuff, and said America is not a white supremacist country that is only set up to terrorize people of color and minorities and that, you know, yes, we've had a past that's been terrible, but we've made tons of progress. And people should be rewarded in this country on the basis of their hard work, their ability, their willingness to take risk to. And we cannot have a society that is arranged by people's tribal identity. If she had come out and gave some more eloquent version. I'm off the top of my head of that speech. It would have been her sister soldier moment. And she could have seen. Said this, my party went in the wrong direction. And by the way, it would have been very compelling to a lot of people.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, but she would have to formulate that. Or someone would have to help her formulate that.

[Tim Dillon]

Someone would have to.

[Joe Rogan]

So what I'm saying is you should run for president. You should become a Democrat and run on that.

[Tim Dillon]

Maybe I am.

[Joe Rogan]

Well, you probably couldn't become a Democrat. They probably never let you in, but I bet you they let you into the Republican.

[Tim Dillon]

Not only will they never let me in, depending on the next eight hours, I'm going to be in jail. There's going to be no I. But I think that was the thing. I think Trump ran against the Republican Party in 2016.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

He ran against the Bushes. He ran against foreign war. He ran against big business. He ran against every single Republican donor base, every plutocratic concern. Trump ran against it. He ran against the Chamber of Commerce. He ran against all the people, the Koch people, all the people that were Open Borders supporters. He ran against all of those people. And, you know, he ran against major, you know, major power factions within that party, and he steamrolled them. And Kamala Harris has refused to do that. She didn't repudiate Biden.

[Joe Rogan]

How could she, though? Because he's still president. She's still vice president. She would have.

[Tim Dillon]

She has to throw him right under the bus.

[Joe Rogan]

But she would almost need a fresh start, like to get out of this cycle and then come back again in 2020.

[Tim Dillon]

He's an old fool. That's what I would have said. Somebody asked me about him, I would have said, he's an old fool.

[Joe Rogan]

But then you'd have to say, well, what is Biden always sharp as attack now? I don't believe you.

[Tim Dillon]

Here's the deal. The vice president, we all know, kind of doesn't do anything. She should just say that she should go. Listen, the vice president do anything.

[Joe Rogan]

Maybe she should say that.

[Tim Dillon]

She should say that she should go. Let's be very honest. Legislation originates in the House of Representatives. The president has an agenda. I'm sitting around, he's an idiot. We let way too many immigrants in. The training stuff's gone nuts. And we got to put some people in jail. If they break into your car, they steal your phone. Yeah, she should. If she said if a Venezuelan steals your phone, they go right to jail, I would be phone banking for her. She hasn't acknowledged his appeal. They never give him his due. They never give Trump his due. Had she said in the debate, listen, Trump, you brought a lot of people into politics. You've ignited their passions. I respect that. And you've brought up issues that are important that have been ignored for a long time by both parties. But I just think we need to move forward in this election. And you're a Very entertaining guy. It was a time, George W. George. Bill Clinton said to George H.W. bush, he goes. In the middle of the debate, he goes, listen, we all respect your military service, and we respect the sacrifice you made for the country, but I think we have to go in another direction. And it was just. And then you could see, like, H. Like H.W. the older one being like, oh. He was seething because Clinton had kind of complimenting him, complimented him and said, we like what you did, but we gotta go in this new direction.

[Joe Rogan]

That would be a brilliant move to use against Trump.

[Tim Dillon]

It would have been a brilliant move to use against Trump. But you're right, she can't do it. She's owned by donors. She's owned by these people. And it's unfortunate because had she run against them, there might have been a contingent of people that said they would give her a shot.

[Joe Rogan]

But I think publishing is a skill.

[Tim Dillon]

She doesn't have it.

[Joe Rogan]

No, it's. It's a very particular type of skill. So she has one skill, and that was in that one speech where she said, come say it to my face. Remember that? You got something to say about me, say it to my face. Every cheers. Like, oh, my God, she's gonna win. Like, that was. There was a moment, but that was a really well rehearsed thing that she did. And she had excellent timing. That's right. So then all the pressure comes out, and then the bumbles and then the interviews and the stumbles and the inability to ask. To answer certain questions, and then all that's. So her ability to do that kind of thing is dependent upon a teleprompter and a well rehearsed speech.

[Tim Dillon]

She doesn't believe in anything outside of her own ambition.

[Joe Rogan]

Bill Clinton did his whole State of the Union speech once when the teleprompter went down. He did it all off the top of his fucking head.

[Tim Dillon]

He said it was a different thing.

[Joe Rogan]

He was a different thing. So a guy like him, you don't find those now because they're all pussy hounds and they're hiding.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

They don't want that fucking job. Bill Clinton was around before the Internet. It was great.

[Tim Dillon]

Maybe that's what we need to go back to. Yeah. I mean, it's like. But because she, you know, it's that again, it's that corporate, hollow, like, yeah, speak.

[Joe Rogan]

That.

[Tim Dillon]

No Inspires nobody. Really.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, the thing that inspires people is she laughs a lot. And, you know, you go girl. Woman of color, all that good stuff. She was already a, you know, Attorney general already, you know, she already had vice president. She was. She's in.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Very qualified in that regard.

[Tim Dillon]

But.

[Joe Rogan]

But what Bill Clinton just did, that's what we want.

[Tim Dillon]

That's what we need.

[Joe Rogan]

We need an actual leader that. I go, well, that's an exceptional human being. The way he talks is better than.

[Tim Dillon]

I can talk, better than both of us or anyone.

[Joe Rogan]

But the way he's doing it in front of everybody, it's very, very.

[Tim Dillon]

Because that moment, he was the left flank of his party, I'm sure, didn't love that, and I'm sure that there were people that criticized him for that, but he basically came out and said, listen, I'm going to go out here and I'm going to, you know, take a stance that's going to anger people, but I'm going to reach across the aisle and say, you're right, this is not moving us in the right direction. There were moments that she could have done that. She chose not to. And I think that's, you know, again, we don't know anything. So I don't know if I'm doing a postmortem on her campaign or not. Not.

[Joe Rogan]

But what do you think? If you had a bet right now?

[Tim Dillon]

I think it's him now, I would. I think if he gets Michigan or Pennsylvania, it's over. And I think he's getting one of them. I don't think she gets both of them, but I could be totally wrong.

[Joe Rogan]

What do you think, Jamie? What do you want me to do, Jamie?

[Tim Dillon]

Make up the results.

[Joe Rogan]

Because there's been these. All these turning points. There's been all these ups and downs and, yes, you know, stumbles and recoveries and, you know, different interviews. Yeah, I'm.

[Tim Dillon]

There was a time I thought it was definitely her, and then there was a time that I thought it was definitely him, and then I. There was a time I thought it was definitely her, and now I think it's him again.

[Joe Rogan]

God, I wish I got a chance to interview her. You know, that one would be interesting. What if she changed my mind? What if she. Like, in an actual conversation, it's cool. She could just be herself.

[Tim Dillon]

Here's the thing. She would have had to do what Clinton did, and she can't do it because they are being held hostage by an ideology that is crippling to thought.

[Joe Rogan]

Right. But so wouldn't you want to. So a person like that, really. I'd want to talk to them about stuff outside of being president, you know, because I think that's when you can find Out a lot of shit about people.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. I think the Waltz thing was a mistake.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, yeah. She even said she chose him when she was sleep deprived.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course. Of course. He's a buffoon, by the way.

[Joe Rogan]

That's a hilarious thing to say.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course, you can't kick him out either, right? No.

[Joe Rogan]

You can't say, I changed my mind. You're fired.

[Tim Dillon]

She should have went with Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania.

[Joe Rogan]

Would have been.

[Tim Dillon]

But Republicans would have been panicked.

[Joe Rogan]

But do you think that the Free Palestine people would have got upset because Josh Shapiro is Jewish?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but at the end of the day, he would have won more Jews back. He's a better debater. And I think he would have been instrumental in PA and I think the ball game.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

So I think, yes, people would not have been happy with his. But by the way, Waltz is saying the same stuff. So Shapiro is going, israel's got a right to defend itself. And we. And it's our big friend. And whatever. Walsh is saying the same thing as Shapiro would have said, except he's a goofy guy who should be at like a state fair eating hot dogs. He shouldn't be the vice president.

[Joe Rogan]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

So if you're going to have that party line.

[Joe Rogan]

Line.

[Tim Dillon]

Because it's the party line, no matter what you ask them, that's just their party line. They go, israel has a right to defend. And it's funny, if that's going to be the party line, have a competent, shrewd operator say it. And not this buffoon.

[Joe Rogan]

Not only that, who should be ice fishing, who's been caught lying multiple times.

[Tim Dillon]

He's a pathological liar and he lies.

[Joe Rogan]

About stuff that's not important.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Joe Rogan]

That no one cares about. Like, you don't have to lie about that. Yeah, you don't have to. You're lying because your version of the truth is not like what you're giving people is not the truth. You're changing the truth. And always to make you look better. You're a head coach instead of an assistant coach. Your military rank is better than it is. You pretend kind of that you served in war.

[Tim Dillon]

It's a total. It's patronizing to the American people to just put this guy out there and say he's just like you and he's one of those radical people. I mean, he's just not a mainstream guy. Shapiro is much more of a mainstream guy who just happened to be Jewish. Right. And this guy who comes from Minnesota is a very far left radical guy who again, is he? He's Not Karl Marx. Marx, but he's nowhere near the mainstream of American politics. And they pick him out and they go, but he talk. He's folksy, he's got a charm. He's a fun guy and. But he happens to be a liar and full of. And, you know, his wife, when the BLM riots were happening, said, we just rolled down the. You just open the windows and smelt the burning tires and really took in the moment. That's a quote from his psychotic wife. So they're psychopaths. They're psychopaths. Joker shit rolling up and we smell the burning ties. We just took in the moment. That's a quote from Gwen Walls.

[Joe Rogan]

Good Lord.

[Tim Dillon]

So at the end of the day, it's like they're not representative of the American people just because you might bump into them at a state fair. They're just broke, those two. They got. They don't have a dollar. So that was exciting. They're like, oh, we got this guy who's broke, and he was like a coach, and he has no money, but he turns out he's a liar and he's. You know, people. People don't. You know, people don't. When riots are going on, people are not taking in the moment and sniffing the burnt tires. This is, you know, Psychopath.

[Joe Rogan]

Let me hear this.

[Tim Dillon]

This is a psychopath. Those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires. And that was. That was a very real thing. And I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was happening. She's ill. She's mentally ill.

[Joe Rogan]

I kept the windows opening. Tire smoke in my house.

[Tim Dillon]

In my house. So you can't. Can we. What? She's a psychopath. And the Democrats bring her out because they go, they're teachers and they're broke. They're like you. And then you got. I don't know about that.

[Joe Rogan]

Let anybody talk off script if they're going to be smart about this in the future. You got to put everybody on a script. Unless you find yourself another Bill Clinton. Put everybody on.

[Tim Dillon]

He was good. I mean, listen, pedophile, perhaps Epstein. Friend, perhaps. Human trafficker, perhaps. But, God, did he talk.

[Joe Rogan]

Such good talk.

[Tim Dillon]

God, did he talk.

[Joe Rogan]

And then I think it goes back to what we're talking about. About, like, secret societies. Like, they've. There's always been these people that were in the White House or wherever. These fucking places. These people, fucking. They go crazy behind closed doors. And you're just assuming that they're the person. They portray themselves on television. This button down person with a suit and tie, he's talking to you about the future. Right. And it's that.

[Tim Dillon]

That is not what's happening.

[Joe Rogan]

That's not what's happening. They're human beings. They have vices, they like wild shit. I bet they like power for sure. Otherwise it wouldn't be president. They like power and they probably are into some kinky shit that they know they're not supposed to be doing because.

[Tim Dillon]

It'S fun, for sure.

[Joe Rogan]

That's probably what's fun about it.

[Tim Dillon]

For sure. The president.

[Joe Rogan]

You can suck like this is crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

In the Oval Office. Think about that. Yeah, that's a good point.

[Joe Rogan]

So much fun. That's probably why Kennedy did it. They were, they were out of control, just. And then all of a sudden they can't be anymore.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Joe Rogan]

So it's. It's only what? Huh? Yeah, it's like when they said Catholic priests couldn't get married anymore. Like what? Yeah, like Kathy used to. They used to be the rock stars, but they were too many people.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, but thank God after they banned marriage in the Catholic Church, nothing bad happened.

[Joe Rogan]

Definitely.

[Tim Dillon]

Thank God nothing bad happened. Well, you think it's. You think it's him? For sure.

[Joe Rogan]

I do not know. I do not know.

[Tim Dillon]

Jamie, who won?

[Joe Rogan]

You know who had a really good post about this? Max Luger. He had a really good post. He goes, I'm not voting for Trump, I'm voting against all these things. He just listed like a, like a very clear and concise list of all the different things that are up about the, this ideology that's being pushed today.

[Tim Dillon]

For sure.

[Joe Rogan]

The censorship of it all is the thing that's the most spooky because it's the only thing that's going to keep us from working our way out of this together.

[Tim Dillon]

That and the war.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, those two things that.

[Tim Dillon]

And the ratcheting up tensions all over the globe.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Is a problem.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Well, he's the one who's saying he's going to try to stop all this shit.

[Tim Dillon]

Let's hope.

[Joe Rogan]

And if that, if that's a reason to vote for someone, that should be like the biggest reason to vote for someone. Like get, get someone who wants to stop people killing people. Number one, get us out of these international conflicts. Number two. Right. Make it so that we have our own oil and we have power here. We don't have to import foreign oil and prop up dictators. That all be good. All that would. All that sounds good, right? You know, it's like I don't hear the things that people keep saying. He's saying like, if this will be the last time you get to vote. No, they're going to put you in camp.

[Tim Dillon]

They're going to run against him, was what I said. It's not saying he's Hitler. It's saying here's where he's right and here's where we can do it better.

[Joe Rogan]

Yes.

[Tim Dillon]

That. That's the way to run against him.

[Joe Rogan]

That's how you're going to win.

[Tim Dillon]

And they chose not.

[Joe Rogan]

I'm going to back you. I'll get Peter.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, you better think when you. I, I'm coming to you for money. So you better. Better.

[Joe Rogan]

We're going to get you fitted with a nice suit.

[Tim Dillon]

Thank you.

[Joe Rogan]

I think you're more of a like a collar open guy, though. Man of the people.

[Tim Dillon]

Collar open and just kind of like.

[Joe Rogan]

Bro, you can't lose.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Gay Republican. You get so many people to jump over to the other side.

[Tim Dillon]

I would go.

[Joe Rogan]

I would.

[Tim Dillon]

Should be the governor of California for sure. You could win. It's an actual good.

[Joe Rogan]

You could actually win that.

[Tim Dillon]

Great point.

[Joe Rogan]

No, no one likes that Newsome fellow. They don't trust him anymore. He got caught with his fucking mask off at the French Laundry.

[Tim Dillon]

I will, I will either save the state or destroy it in five days. Oh, you'll fix it. But it's either or. And. And I think either one is fine.

[Joe Rogan]

You're going to be a national hero. Yeah. They're going to be screaming for you to be president. That's what's going to happen. Well, let's pray you'll be the first Republican president since Arnie. Makes sense. You're in.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

You are first Republican guardian. Governor rather.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

In California.

[Tim Dillon]

So that'd be huge. That's a good plan because I could go from there and then write to.

[Joe Rogan]

The White House and you're socially liberal so the liberals won't feel bad voting for you, Right?

[Tim Dillon]

To an extent. I'm socially liberal.

[Joe Rogan]

To a pretty wide extent, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

To a wide extent.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I do believe women should ask to leave the House. Like I do. I do have that. That's where I have that Islam thing.

[Joe Rogan]

I do believe that permission's important.

[Tim Dillon]

Permission is important.

[Joe Rogan]

Sharia law thing is the craziest.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, let's hope. Let's hope everybody's peaceful and happy.

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah. Let's hope it's not all Handmaid's Tale in the future.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Joe Rogan]

Thanks for being here, man. Thank you.

[Tim Dillon]

Always.

[Joe Rogan]

Thank you. You had some brilliant rants tonight. Thank you.

[Tim Dillon]

I appreciate it.

[Joe Rogan]

Where are you at? Where can people come see you?

[Tim Dillon]

Tim dillon show on YouTube. Timdylancomedy.com and the mothership. Sold out. But I'll be there in next week.

[Joe Rogan]

Oh, next week. We might be traveling around. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I mean, there's a few. Know we just did a tour and, you know, we're kind of at the end of it, but we got some dates in Canada.

[Joe Rogan]

We're.

[Tim Dillon]

We're kind of at the end of the tour.

[Joe Rogan]

And you coming up tonight?

[Tim Dillon]

Are you there?

[Joe Rogan]

Yeah, yeah. Coming. Yeah, I'm doing Ron White show.

[Tim Dillon]

Okay, cool.

[Joe Rogan]

Come and. All right, Talk soon. Thank you. Bye, everybody.