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Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan podcast.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
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Joe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Gentlemen, Mr. Corsetti. How are you, sir? Very nice to meet you, by the way.
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Dan Richards
Nice to meet you too, Joe. Thanks.
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Joe Rogan
Thank you very much for that video. We talked about it before, but I want to say it publicly. The debunking of. The debunking by Flint Dibble. And you really nailed him on so many of those things that he was dishonest about. And it just. I wish we knew in real time, but unfortunately, you know, it's. It takes a lot of research to be able to figure out what he was telling the truth about and what he wasn't. Yeah, you know.
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Dan Richards
Oh, thank you. I was.
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Joe Rogan
Tell everybody your site too.
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Dan Richards
Oh, de Dunking. De Dunking the past. Does my email de dunking on YouTube or on Twitter. That's with two Ds. Like my ex. Not debunking.
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Joe Rogan
Sorry. Keep this.
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Dan Richards
Sorry.
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Joe Rogan
That's okay.
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Dan Richards
I'm sorry.
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Jimmy Corsetti
De dunking. Not debunking.
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Dan Richards
Yes.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Dan Richards.
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Dan Richards
De Dunking. Dan Richards. Thank you. Yeah. The thing with Flint, it was actually funny. The moment that I knew that he was lying about the science was when you asked him about the feralization of plants. That's where they rolled back into being no longer domesticated. And he was like, oh, it'll just take thousands of years. It's like, no, no, no, no. I've researched this and I know better. And he was just knee jerking straight ants. Oh, just thousands of years. And when you pressed him, he's like, well, I don't know for sure.
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Joe Rogan
Well, that's a bummer because that's his field of study, which is really kind of crazy. It's a really fascinating thing that seeds do adapt to agriculture. They adapt to the fact that it's better for the survival of the plant if one, you develop agriculture. If they're more robust and they stay on the plant, it's better for the wild if they break off easy and they can scatter better and they can, you know, proliferate.
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Dan Richards
Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it. I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat it.
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Joe Rogan
That whole natural selection thing when it comes to plants is so fascinating. But the question was so simple. If you stopped having agriculture and these plants just grew wild, would they go back to the same characteristics of wild plants? And he was like, no, there's no evidence of that. But then I saw your video, and then I looked at some other stuff, and there's quite a bit of evidence of it. Particularly with wild rice, right?
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Dan Richards
Yes, particularly with wild rice. Yes. There's that one. It looks like out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice that shows multiple types. There's different ways the seeds can break off, right? They can break in different points of the plant, or they can just fall straight out. And rice shows numerous paths there where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off. So it's. It gets pretty complicated. But rice does. Rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that. Now, I'm not a geneticist, so I'm sure that somebody's gonna come and, you know, say this is pseudo crap. But ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth. And that's why he was not gonna give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere, when in reality, it's a lot of. Just like everything else in life, it's a lot of gray.
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Joe Rogan
Well, it's also. This whole subject of the past is. It's so obviously confusing because when you look at. I watched your video today, the Baalbek video, just looking at the enormous size of those stones, there's no reasonable explanation how people like, what is that dated? To what year do they believe it was made?
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Jimmy Corsetti
This is where it gets fun is because they credit it to the Romans and the Phoenicians. However, it goes beyond the sophistication and the capabilities what the Romans were known to have, whether it's the existence of the screwjack for lifting the stones. But Baalbek, which is located in Lebanon, and I had the great privilege of going there in September of last year, exactly one month before things kicked off in Israel with the whole Hamas thing. And if I hadn't got there, then I wouldn't have no chance. Like, right now, Israel's bombing Lebanon. And so it's a dangerous place. But Baalbek, if there was one example, one ancient site on Earth that is evidence of a lost, ancient, advanced civilization. And by advanced, I'm not talking about space lasers here. I'm talking about more sophisticated than what we were taught in school for the known capabilities. And Baalbek has the largest stones that were ever quarried in human history. The largest stones ever lifted, stacked and transported in human history, and the largest stone columns in all of classical history. And we're talking. So the trilithon stones, three stones, 900 tons apiece, or 800 metric tons, and they were moved a half a mile from the quarry. They were lifted and stacked approximately 30ft off the ground. And when I say stacked, they were perfectly lined up. And Jamie, it's in my folder of Ballbeck, if you want to show some of these, and they're absolutely massive. So let me tell you right here, and I of course, have the gentleman there who I'll tell you about later, highlighted just to kind of show you for perspective, like, that's someone right there. It's 5 foot 11. Those stones that are highlighted in red are the trilithon stones. But these pictures do not do it justice because it's taken through an ultra wide camera lens. From the top to bottom of the red highlighted stones is 14ft and they're 62ft long, or 62ft. Excuse me, like, there's me.
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Joe Rogan
It's hard to tell because of the perspective. And people need to kind of understand how a wide angle lens sort of distorts things by showing you this enormous field of view. But when you're looking at something that's 14ft long and 60, excuse me, 60, 62ft long and 14ft high, like, what is the weight of that? What's the overall weight?
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Jimmy Corsetti
900 imperial tons or 800 metric tons. And to anyone listening, a metric ton is 2200 pounds, 1000 kilograms, and an imperial ton is 2000 pounds. So that's 1, 1.7 million pounds each of them. And there's three of them. And if you were to go to the quarry, there's ones that are 1200 tons and even 1500 tons that are 20ft tall. This is mind boggling. Like, Jamie, if you want to just scroll through some of the other photos to kind of give Joe the perspective and the audience the perspective, those are.
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Joe Rogan
Clearly cut stones that were moved into place and moved 23ft above the ground.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Right? And technically 30ft, because there's stones that are actually below the ground there that you can't see because it's submerged under the earth. So technically it was 30ft, but 23 off, 23ft off the ground today. And right there, this highlights. So not only is that 14ft from top to bottom, which you would never realize when you're looking at this. And these are confirmed measurements, by the way. This is right out of encyclopedias, but notice how they're completely flush, nice and even with each other. And this exceeds the known capabilities of what the Romans had. And it's worth mentioning that this site is some 2400 miles from Rome, the capital. And if they're going to say that this was created by the Romans, one people need to understand that the Romans were renowned for documenting everything. Yet this site is not credited to anybody. They don't know exactly who did it or when. But the academics conclude that it had to have been the Romans or the Phoenicians, because of course, there was no one before them. And with this photo right here, let me say something else. There is evidence of at least two, but arguably three different architectures that were done at this site. And I would conclude that this is evidence that this site existed in prehistoric times. There's also, I can show you encyclopedias that talk about Baalbek being prehistoric in nature, dating back 11,000 years of human history. And what I argue is that it was built up, it was found by the Romans and the Phoenicians and built upon later. And right here is evidence for all that have eyes to see. Look how they obviously use broken stones and constructed on top of it. Why would you go from making the most advanced stones in history that far exceed anything you see in Rome? For example, if you were to go to the Colosseum, as magnificent as that is, it is a architecture of mathematics and just brilliance. But this right here, why would they use the. Why would they. For all the feats of Roman history, why would they have the most impressive feats over 2000 miles away from the capital? In fact, let me just say this. When I'm talking about 900 ton stones, the largest stone in all of Rome is 53 tons. It's the Trajan capital block to make up The Trajan's column. 53 tons. This is 15 times heavier.
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Dan Richards
There's a number of things too. Now, I'm not a huge believer in ancient technology. I'm not a big believer in ancient technology, as Jimmy's well aware, but which.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Is why it's important that you're here, because people are going to hear multiple perspectives.
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Dan Richards
Yeah. That's where I can tell you some things about Baalbek that are still interesting to me.
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Joe Rogan
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Dan Richards
Of them is you don't see the Roman foot in those stones, which is weird. You would expect to see some sort of breakdown of the Roman foot in these measurements, but they're not there at Baalbek. They are there on the stones that.
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Joe Rogan
Were quarried by Roman foot. What you're saying is that there's a different measurement, what they considered a foot. It's not 12 inches.
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Dan Richards
Correct. There's a Roman unit of measurement that they would use in construction and we don't see it in those stones in the trilithon, but there's three stones that were quarried and left in the ground. All of those stones show signs of using the Roman foot.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Jamie, will you scroll over to that?
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Dan Richards
So that right off the bat shows to me that the Ones that were installed were not built by the Romans, but the ones that were quarried were made by the Romans. They were trying to quarry out stones to match it right here. Another thing is that's crazy. Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front. You walk in the front of the thing and that's where you're going to see the biggest stones. The most impressive, for obvious reasons. These are in the back, completely on the opposite end of the entrance. You have to, like from what you told me, you kind of have to look for them if you don't know where they're at. Right. Like, you can't just show up on the site and they say, here's the trilithon.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Well, let me tell you a quick story real quick. So I had the pleasure of going there with some people and I'll tell you about it later. I won't do the name drop just yet, but Dory, who lives in Lebanon, he toured us around and he had been to the site three times before. When we went, it was his fourth time. He did not know of the existence of the trilithon stones. They're around back. You gotta walk probably a third of a mile to get there. They don't even bring the tours around to the trilithon stones. He had no idea what I was talking about the night before dinner. I'm trying to explain to him, like the trilithon stones, the 900 ton stones, and I had to show him a picture. He had never seen them before.
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Joe Rogan
How do they not show the tourists this?
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Jimmy Corsetti
That's an excellent question. Now, you do have to walk, to be honest, it's like a 12, 15 minute walk to go around to get there. I mean, it's part of the platform, but you have to go all the way around. And some people just don't feel like making the walk. And when we were there, we were totally alone for a half hour with these stones. Not a single person. There was hundreds of people at the site. Not a single one of them came around back. Now, just to clarify what the audience is seeing right now, this is at the quarry, which is a half mile away. This is where all the stones originate from. And this one right here is what's called the stone of the pregnant woman. It is 1200 tons. As you can see, it's 14ft tall, which is the same height. So when those Trilophon stones I was showing you a moment ago, this. The only difference is that this one's 68ft long. It's virtually the same Size, except for just a few feet shorter, but it's the same height. So that gentleman right there, Pierre, who's a wonderful man, is six foot tall. And look at him, just dwarfed by this stone.
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Joe Rogan
1200 tons.
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Dan Richards
Insane, right?
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Joe Rogan
And it's not from there.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Well, no, it is. This was court. So this is at the quarry.
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Joe Rogan
So the, The. So this one's at the quarry. And. But the ones that were placed, where are they from?
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Jimmy Corsetti
This quarry, which is a half mile away. So this is.
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Joe Rogan
So they moved 1 million 800 pounds a half a mile.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Three of them. And that doesn't include the two dozen that are 350 tons apiece. That doesn't include the nine that are 600 tons apiece. Nine stones that are 600 tons apiece are somehow a side note to the trilithon stones. And let me just tell you this. This is something, Jamie, if you scroll over a few articles involving. Because this is what the audience needs to understand. A lot of people hear these numbers and they don't wrap their head around exactly how important this is, which is that. Go to the article involving the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. It's in the same folder of Baalbek. And the largest stone moved in modern times is 340 tons. And we're going to come back to all these photos, too, because it's extremely important. There's some details in here.
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Joe Rogan
That's the one at that goofy museum in la.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yes.
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Joe Rogan
Which is, by the way, a very goofy museum.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. I haven't been there.
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Joe Rogan
It's so dumb. It's so dumb. There's an acrylic box that's on the ground that you're supposed to interpret as art. It's just a box that's just sitting there. It's one of those places where you go there and you go, what is my tax dollars going to, Jamie. Goat, motherfucker.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Go to the other folder that's moving stones. So let me just. While he's looking for that, let me explain to you.
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Joe Rogan
I saw the video on that and said what this is, is there was a suspended stone. That's an enormous stone that they placed there as part of their art piece.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
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Joe Rogan
And this thing was not that one. Not that Jamie, go.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, we'll play that video in a little bit. It's pretty funny.
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Joe Rogan
They had to move this stone. It was four miles an hour, is the fastest they can move it. They had to build structure around the stone to move it.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yes.
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Joe Rogan
So this fucking insanely huge truck, let me tell you.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So the Details. It is a 200. So they had to custom build a trailer truck around the stone itself.
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Joe Rogan
Tell Jamie. What?
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Jimmy Corsetti
Jamie, look under the moving stones folder.
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Joe Rogan
There's not a folder, it's just a video.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Go to. Let's see here. Scroll down a little bit. Go to Ram statue. Man, these silly. You're using a Mac. It doesn't show you the preview of the pictures.
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Joe Rogan
Silly Mac.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Keep looking until you find of a big red truck. But I'll tell the audience while you're looking for it exactly what we're talking about here. So yeah, keep going back.
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Dan Richards
There we go.
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Jimmy Corsetti
You're on it. Go back a little bit. Go back to the article three. Go left like three times. Right there, right there. So this one stone, 340 tons, they call it the largest operation of its kind since the Egyptians built the pyramids. They had to custom build a 260 foot long trailer truck that consists of 196 semi truck wheels. It has 44 axles, it's 32ft long. It took a year of planning. It cost $10 million. It took nine days to move this 340 ton stone.
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Joe Rogan
What a great use of taxpayers money. $2 million. There's no way they needed that money for LA.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, who cares about potholes and homeless people?
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Joe Rogan
No way. I mean, this is more important.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And so this is. What's so important is that this, the largest stone moved in human history is at the Ramesseum. It's the Ramesseum statue in Egypt. It's 1,000 metric tons, which is 2.2 million pounds. That was inexplicably moved 170 miles from the quarry in Aswan. And here's the significance of this brother. This stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one third the weight one. The stone at the Ramesseum is three times heavier.
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Joe Rogan
And how far did they move that stone?
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Jimmy Corsetti
This one? At the one, the Ramesseum, 170 miles. And the other one was moved 106 miles.
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Joe Rogan
170 miles and it's £2 million.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And so this is where things get really fun, is that they say, the academics, they say that the stones would have been moved on tree logs because that's their best guess. And it's not an unreasonable guess, but when you look into the nuanced details. So I really nerded out hard on this. There's a lot of people. Are you familiar with the Mohs scale of hardness?
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Joe Rogan
No.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So it's the measurement of stone and it's often used by alternative ancient history buffs to say that hey, copper based tooling could not have been utilized to cut granite stone. That's been claimed. And there's no evidence that the Egyptians, the Egyptians never told us they used bronze tooling to cut the stones that make up the granite stones within the pyramid. And so I started asking, I'm like, wait a second, if they're going to say that they moved a 2.2 million pound stone on tree logs. Well, they say that it was the cedar, the Lebanon cedar trees. Well, I nerded out on this. And there's something called the Jenka scale of hardness which measures the hardness of wood. And it's often used for, if you're going to pick wood flooring in your.
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Joe Rogan
House, very soft wood, it's one of.
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Jimmy Corsetti
The softest on earth. Not the softest, but it's so soft that it would never even be considered for flooring in your house because your furniture and your heels would dent it immediately. And if you were to put significant weight on it, whatever that weight is, it would either crush it, crumble it, or at least dent it out of a circle or being a circular nature to roll on. And so when you look into the nuanced details involving the mysterious accomplishments of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear. Like if I had one thesis is that the true history of mankind was more advanced than what we were taught in school. Now how advanced, that's the fun topic and we will dive into that here in the next couple hours. But the reality is that there's evidence for all who have eyes to see that there. I mean again, brother, a thousand metric ton statue. And this is right out of encyclopedia show the statue.
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Joe Rogan
So this is the statue, it somehow or another fell.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. So it was a seated statue. That's me in front of it. And it's broken into multiple pieces.
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Joe Rogan
There's some images, Jamie, of what it originally looked like.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So that foot, it's up to my belly button, like the top of the foot. That's just the foot. There's another picture that would, an illustration that would show you what it would have looked like when it was full. There it is. Go back one. So that's what it looks like from an aerial shot. Now it's completely toppled over. God knows what would have taken to knock this thing over. They would, they say probably an earthquake. It was a seated statue. I if it was a standing statue.
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Joe Rogan
What it looked like originally, that's what they.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yes. And again, 1,000 metric tons is 2.2 million pounds. How it got knocked over in Itself, to me, might be indicators of some sort of cataclysm. But that's a side point. But the point is this. It was moved 170 miles. They do not, the Egyptians did not articulate, illustrate, or describe how they would have done.
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Joe Rogan
So isn't that part of the problem with like the burning of the Library of Alexandria is all that information was lost forever?
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yes. Here's the thing. Hold on, let me say this real quick, brother. The Library of Alexandria was like thousands of years before the Great Pyramid. Like the Library of Alexandria was just after. Was it 47 A.D. or B.C. that it got destroyed? Is believed something around there. So 2,000 years ago, this statue is 3,000 years old, according to the academics. So this is a thousand years before the Library of Alexandria. So, yeah, it's not unreasonable to suggest that they would have had information about how they constructed these things. In fact, I want to believe that they did, but they might have. But it's gone. Yeah, they might not have.
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Dan Richards
What were you going to say when you're talking about, we look at the way that they move the stones? Like you're talking about the cedar. They moved one stone in human history that was really big. The biggest stone ever moved was the thunderstone. It was moved by Catherine the Great's people late 1700s. Late 1700s, they used a big team of people and they moved this thing not very far, like 10 miles, eight miles, something like that, nine miles.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And it took over ocean and it took nine months.
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Dan Richards
And when they were pulling this thing on the ground, they had to consistently try metallurgy, different types of ball bearings for it to roll on, because the ones they were moving would keep being crushed. And then they had to use screw jacks that are just like you jack up a house floor with like a sub floor. They would use these screw jacks to lift the statue back up and put it on bearings. Well, the Romans didn't have a screw jack. The we had metallurgy with trying different kinds of ball bearings and shit. That's something way outside. I mean, the 1700s. The 1700s, we're talking right at the cusp of them actually making structural steel. You know, this is the beginning of iron bridges and shit. They were actually making good metallurgy then. And it still took trial and error to move this stone. And it's. That stone's basically the same size as the ones at Baalbek, a tiny bit bigger, but the same kind of issues where they would have had to have jacked that thing up. They would have had to which would have took steel or hard, hard metal. Basically, they had to have some highly advanced metallurgy for the time. Not as good as we have now, but 1700s level of metallurgy. That's what it would have taken.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And the Romans did not have that level of sophisticated. So that's the thing. So there's something that you informed me of, Dan, and let me just give you a shout out, hey, everybody, go subscribe to de dunking on YouTube. Your channel is a gold mine. That is bringing. You are bridging together the facts that the alternative theorists are presenting as well as the academics. And you're differentiating the truth. And your channel is so valuable. And what you taught me is that the invention of the screw jack was utilized in order to lift that thunderstone, the Bronze Horseman, on top of that, those metal rails. So with the Egyptians, or excuse me, the Romans didn't have that. That wasn't invented until thousands of years later. So without that screw jack, they would have never been able to lift it in the first place.
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Dan Richards
That stone would have just sat there because.
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Joe Rogan
Yeah, you said something that you don't believe in ancient technology.
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Dan Richards
I don't believe in ancient high technology in the regards that, generally speaking, when you start getting.
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Joe Rogan
Put this mic.
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Dan Richards
I'm so sorry.
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Joe Rogan
It's okay. Put it like a fist from your face.
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Dan Richards
I'm so sorry about that. That I don't. I'm not a believer in ancient high technology in regards that I don't believe, like even, even ancient steam engines would be like pushing it. When you start talking like really advanced stuff, I tend to be. Tend to look for other explanations. I tend to look for, you know, stone was the premier building material for hominids for like millions of years. Literally millions of years. So father passed to his son how to do this sort of thing. And eventually you get to a point where we start working with metal and that that kind of just dies off. We quit doing that for a while and then a thousand years goes by and we look at what our ancestors used to do and we're like, holy shit. But I honestly think a lot of the stuff that if we just saw how they did it, we would just be like, well, why didn't I think of that?
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Joe Rogan
But wait a minute. When you're talking about moving things that are 1,000 tons and you're moving them through the mountains, like, how wouldn't you believe in some sort of technology?
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Dan Richards
Well, let's put it this way. I'm not opposed to the idea, but we need to get there first. Like, if we're going like, we're talking about the Thunderstone or the Baalbek Stones going from. Like, I feel like we need to exhaust every other possibility before we can start hanging our hat on something.
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Joe Rogan
Okay, what other possibilities could you even conceive of?
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Dan Richards
That's. I'd be open to the conversation, but.
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Joe Rogan
It is technology, right? Of very sophisticated technology. If you're gonna move something that heavy.
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Dan Richards
It would be definitely something bigger, better than we know, or different than we know. But, like, I give example that I've used it with Jim before was, you know, when The World War II ended, America ended all their sniper schools overseas to tighten the budget and Vietnam started, we didn't have any snip sniper schools. And the NCO's on the ground say, hey, we need trained snipers. They had to actually recruit snipers, sharpshooters from the American Olympic team. Because we didn't have trained snipers anymore. In 20 years, we had better tools, worse results because of the lack of skills. So I'm of the opinion that there's some.
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Joe Rogan
Right. But the sniper is something that we're all very well aware of. It's conceivable. It's obvious how you would do it. You could explain it to the layperson.
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Dan Richards
Yeah, you can. But it was something that still, there was a skill set that was lost in just 20 years. That's all. I think that. I think that, like a lot of things, you see a lot of the ideas for moving the big rocks. Some guys will use, like, they think that, like, water pressure vacuums were used to pull rocks up tubes and all kinds. You see all kinds of. Interesting hypothesis that use lower tech means that I tend to think most of them, I think that don't work, but I tend to think that those would be the direction we should be looking before we go to ancient high technology. And again, the reason. The reason that I think that is because if we do get to ancient high technology, we really need to have eliminated everything else by we get there in order to be taken seriously. I guess that's kind of how I look at it. I'm a more skeptical person real quick.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So let's back up to this. Let's see if we agree on this. Would you agree that what we were taught in school, that the Ancients were more sophisticated than the described narrative?
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Dan Richards
Yeah, absolutely.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Then there you go. So we're on the same page. Because it's like, what's technology like? Do they have space, lasers and hydraulics? I'm not Suggesting that a horse saddle. Technology.
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Joe Rogan
Right.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So they had something else.
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Dan Richards
Oh, yeah, they definitely. I guess when I get to the. I think when most people think high technology, like you say space lasers and stuff powered. Powered things like something where they were no longer using human power or water power, something they were harnessing energy or doing sophisticated chemistry, things like. That's where I start to be like, well, I need more evidence to go that far with it. However, the moving of the big rocks is something that I'm quick to say, but in order to do it, we would need. If we were to do it, we would need technology well outside of what they had available to them at the time. And in my opinion, if you look at those, like at Baalbek, which will go back to that, you've got the three big stones that were put in a wall that don't have the Roman unit of measurement used. And we got three big rocks in the ground that do have the Roman unit of measurement. I think that they gave up. They realized they weren't able to do it. They had one group carving them and the guys tasked to move them looked at. What the fuck are you guys on about? Ain't no way we're moving these things. You're on crack.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And the fact that it's undocumented, like the foundation of Baalbek is completely undocumented. Go ahead.
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Joe Rogan
You were saying something about dating it to 11,000 years.
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Jimmy Corsetti
There is. So, Jamie, if you go to the Baalbek folder, you'll find an encyclopedia article that describes the evidence of human habitation at baalbek dating back 9,000 BC, which is 11,000 years ago. And I'm not suggesting these stones were created back then. I'm open to it.
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Joe Rogan
What is the evidence? Like what kind of evidence? Pottery.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Oh, sure, I'd have to go read through the scientific article, but it's humans were there 11,000 years ago.
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Dan Richards
Yes.
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Jimmy Corsetti
And the fact that they don't document when the Romans were. Yeah, see right there.
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Joe Rogan
And there's another article, history, that dates back at least 11,000 years, encompassing significant periods such as prehistoric Canaanite, Hellenistic and Roman eras. After Alexander the Great conquered The City and 334 BCE, he renamed it Heliopolis. Heliopolis.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Heliopolis.
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Joe Rogan
Heliopolis. Greek for Sun City. The city flourished under Roman rule.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Now let me say this real quick, Jamie, will you go to the picture of the mountains in this folder? So this is something. That's unbelievable. All right, so just scroll through all these photos of the mountains because here's something that people need to understand that is unbelievably significant, which is that at Baalbek There are approximately 200 rose granite columns that were transported from the Aswan quarry in Egypt, which is 700 miles as the bird flies. And what's wild is that the only way to get them to Baalbek, because the Baalbek is located in the middle of the Lebanon mountains and it has an average elevation of 8,000ft with peaks reaching over 10,000ft. As you can see, there's a frickin ski resort there, which I couldn't believe when I was driving there, there was literally the ski lifts. I went there in September. So they had to bring all of those multi ton columns, stone columns from Egypt. And the only way to get there was over these mountains, which is mind blowing.
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Joe Rogan
And what you're saying by how the crow flies, as the crow flies, what people need to understand is that doesn't take into account elevation changes, right? So if you're, if you have a flat line like a bird and you're flying from one point to another, that's 700 miles. But if you have to go up and down and up and down and up and down, it's significantly larger. And when the measurement, it's not 700 miles, it's probably double that.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Right? That's an excellent point. And it's like, then the question is like, why would they do this? Like why would they go out of the how and why.
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Joe Rogan
How why is like it's cool, but how is the real question, like how do you. I mean obviously we built things because it's cool, right? You know, if you go to the Acropolis and the Parthenon, you go, why did they do it? It was fucking cool. You know, people like to leave cool shit behind, right?
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Dan Richards
But you look at Baalbek, there's a lot of interesting things about it. Like it has the largest temple of Jupiter out of anywhere on the Roman Empire. Generally speaking, it's got some of the biggest temples in the Roman Empire period. But it's a far flung corner of their empire. And it's not an important city really, it's semi important in the region. But it's certainly no Cairo or anything, right? But it has all these huge temples. My opinion is, my thinking is that they showed up and there was this massive stonework there. And these are the Romans, they can't have these. Can't have the locals thinking their ancestors were better than the Romans. So they fucking hijack it, just build big shit on top of it. This is now ours. We plant our stamp on it. This is a Roman building. This is all Roman now. This was never your ancestors. This was always ours. And then the locals don't ever. You can't look to their forefathers or whatever legends they had in a couple of generations. Just the power of Rome.
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Joe Rogan
Well, even the Parthenon, it's built on the Acropolis. And the Acropolis is older than the Parthenon. And it's, you know, who made that? Everybody just shrugs their shoulders. Other folks stay away from the mystery we put up here.
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Jimmy Corsetti
You know what's interesting about Baalbek as well is that it's in the Bible. The Lebanon mountains are mentioned 103 times in the Bible. I am not a Bible thumper. I am a believer in a divine creation. I'm proud to say it because I've seen the proof of my own life. However, what's interesting is about Baalbek is that they said that it was created by baal, which is like this demon entity in the Bible and they declare it as the world's first civilization after the flood. And it was created by giants as punishment for what? Their iniquities of the flood. Wow. And I have an article about it, Jamie. If you scroll through, you'll find it.
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Joe Rogan
Now we're in the Anunnaki terror.
- [31:58]
Jimmy Corsetti
There you go. Right.
- [31:59]
Dan Richards
Finally.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So hold on, go back to those cranes. Let me tell you this. So what you're looking at here is the Romans most sophisticated crane in their history. It had a max lifting capacity of 6.6 tons. In other words, to lift just one of those trilithon stones, you would need 133 of these, which is obviously completely not feasible whatsoever. You wouldn't have the space to do it. And it's just ridiculous to suggest you would coordinate 133 cranes around it. So this is what I'm trying to say is that it's further suggestive evidence that the Romans didn't build it because they didn't have the capability to lift stones of that mass.
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Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's still pretty fascinating. The Romans were able to build a crane that could lift six tons.
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Dan Richards
That's amazing.
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Joe Rogan
But not enough to even lift the stones that were inside the king's chamber.
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Dan Richards
Right.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So let me put this into perspective. So the largest stones inside the king's chamber of the Great pyramid are approximately 80 tons imperial. So actually 78 tons imperial or 70 tons metric, removed some 500 miles from the Aswan quarry and lifted and stacked hundreds of feet above the ground. But here's what's wild, is that those stones, the largest stones in the Great Pyramid, compared to the Trilithon stones. The trilithon stones are 15 times heavier. Not, not. Not twice as heavy, not three times as heavy, not ten times as heavy.
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Dan Richards
As a guy who's skeptical of that stuff, ancient high technology, there's a couple of things that make it where it's like, I straight up can't explain. Baalbek is one of them. You can. When you can, you could use those cranes and lay them on their side and drag that stone across the ground. That's exactly what they did with the Thunderstone, Catherine the Great's time. But then you are tasked with lifting that son of a bitch, and all of a sudden you're right back to where you started. You can drag it across however you want. But when you get to picking it up 14ft off the ground and they.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Dragged it on those rails, though.
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Dan Richards
Yeah, sophisticated rails.
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Joe Rogan
More than 23ft off the ground.
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Dan Richards
Oh, 30ft, right?
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, it was 30ft. It's documented. I have 23ft illustrated because it's where the ground is now. But the foundation of it goes subsurface. So it's like, you know, with these details, like, there's a reason why there is a growing interest in the mysteries of lost, ancient civilizations. Because smart people of all kinds of walks of life are looking into the nuanced details and realizing, like, oh, wait a second, like when Graham Hawk, Graham Hancock says that there's a missing chapter of human history, like, this is reality. We don't know how they built the Great Pyramid. It is a fact that the Egyptians left us with no explanation of any kind. Out of the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs all over Egypt, not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones. Not one.
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Dan Richards
Yeah, there's not. Big lacks of big gaps in the knowledge is where we end up having these kinds of discussions. And I think to go back to where we first started, we mentioned Flint at the beginning, that we have a problem, in my opinion, that most people that see things kind of like I do, as opposed to like Jimmy yourself does, where they're looking, where I kind of need to take my steps to get to that ancient high technology. They end up going that just straight debunker route. And then they get skeptical, that skeptical. They get cynical. They turn into assholes. They turn into. They're looking for ways appeal to authority, shoot this down. I just fuck your idea. Right? Your idea is wrong. So I know what the implications are. Instead of saying well you know, maybe there's other implications, let's have a discussion about it. They just go straight to no, this is impossible. This is stupid. Make fun of the person. Compare it to flat Eartherism. Compare it to aliens and Nazism.
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Joe Rogan
Even worse. Yeah, Flint's case, he's even worse. He's somehow another text to white supremacy.
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Dan Richards
It's not just Flint, it's that fucking John Hoops, man. He's the one that started that. He's. He's that guy Wikipedia. And we could talk about that for a quick second. John Hoops is a professor for the university for Kansas University and he is been on been one of the earliest editors of Wikipedia consistently. Graham Hancock's page, Younger Dryas impact hypothesis page, all kinds of pseudoarchaeology and pyramids in Atlantis, all that shit he's got locked. He. It's not just that he edits it. Him and his buddies edit it and you can't go in and edit. There's a scientist from the comet research group that tried to edit the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis page and was told he can't because it's a conflict of interest. A fucking scientist that works on this shit's a conflict of interest, but a scientist from outside the field isn't.
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Jimmy Corsetti
By the way, John Hoopes studied at Harvard and Yale. He got his undergrad, I believe from Harvard and his PhD from Yale or vice versa. This is significant because he's controlling the.
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Dan Richards
Information and he hides this stuff too. He'll tell you that. I watched him tell Forbes. Hey, you guys need to cite Wikipedia instead of just because they said the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis and they just made a real quick article about it with no skepticism. He says you need to cite Wikipedia as well. He edits the Wikipedia page and doesn't mention that he edits it when he tells people to go look at the fucking thing.
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Joe Rogan
What's his motivation for debunking this stuff?
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Dan Richards
He doesn't like Graham Hancock. He doesn't. He think he same kind of thing. He thinks pseudoarchaeology is all the isms. If you believe in ancient high technology or you believe in Atlantis, you must be a white supremacist, a racist, a misogynist, a Cohen.
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Joe Rogan
Let's forget about Atlantis for a minute. But I definitely want to talk about it. But what you're seeing is impossible. It's essentially impossible with today's technology. When you're talking about those stones that were moved 700 miles through the mountains if you tried to bring some engineers together in the United States in 2024, the best and the brightest, and said, here's your project, they would say, fuck you.
- [37:23]
Dan Richards
You need Elon Musk levels of money to throw that.
- [37:26]
Joe Rogan
You would need super billionaire money. And even then, I don't know how you would do it. I just don't. I can't conceivably think of a way. And that's what's so interesting about this stuff, is that whatever they did was not just complicated for the time, it was so beyond our imagination of what was possible at the time that it's beyond our imagination of what's possible today. So it just. It throws this. These facts, the physical facts about the size and the location, they were brought from that fly in the face of logic and credibility and our understanding of what's possible, not just then, but today. So for anybody to say, oh, we've figured this out, hey, man, fuck you, you definitely haven't. And the problem is that you have these fucking names attached to you. Harvard and Yale. And you've decided, because there's a group of people that have been studying this stuff, and they fucking wrote some shit down. And you studied what they wrote down. And you did your own studying. You got a degree. You're the guy. You're the only one. And it's these same fucking weirdo weasels that put their pronouns in their Twitter bio, and they're just crackpots. They're crackpots masquerading as intellectuals because the things that they're saying are completely bizarre. They're all. 100% of them are captured by this woke ideology. We're Lentarches. They're weird people, man, because they exist in this structure that's been completely compromised, and that's our education. Our higher education systems have been completely compromised. And this is not to say that they don't teach you amazing stuff about medicine and science. Of course they do. But they are also in a cult.
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Jimmy Corsetti
It is. It is a total cult behavior. And honestly, it's their religion. It's the motivation.
- [39:16]
Joe Rogan
It's mostly atheists.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yes, they are. Let me just share this. So with the biggest critics and the naysayers of alternative theories, there's a common denominator, like when you mentioned the pronouns in their profile. Almost all of them have it. And they're not trans. And if you look at their political ideologies, it is extremely left. And these people are visceral. They're toxic. And that may just make a side point that I almost Forgot is when we're talking about Wikipedia, a lot of people say, well, that's why you don't look at Wikipedia. You don't trust it. Who cares about Wikipedia? I'm like, excuse me. It shows up at the top of Google on anything that you search, so it cannot be ignored. And when you were talking a moment ago about the impossibility of the movement of these stones, I want to just emphasize this point one more time, which is that movement of that 340 ton stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one third the weight of the largest stones in ancient history. And when you look at what it took to do it. So it's like when people, you know when you're using the word impossible, it's like, listen, with what it took for us to do that. And it was a third of the weight. And he had to custom build this 260 foot long truck with 196 wheels.
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Joe Rogan
Internal combustion engines, hydraulics, have roads that are flat and far better metal.
- [40:23]
Dan Richards
Far better roads. The roads. Years of experience, the roads.
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Jimmy Corsetti
One reason why they had to go 106 miles is because they had to go around different roads because most roads couldn't support the wait. People look into this, like, don't listen to Jimmy the YouTuber. Like, look into the details on yourself and you'll realize, like, this is completely inexplicable. And it's so important now because we're living at a time where people are starting to realize that not everything we were taught was true. In fact, a lot of things you see in the mainstream media nowadays have been utterly debunked. It's all propaganda and right about history.
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Joe Rogan
About recent history, that's easily proven. And the mainstream media will tell false narratives.
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Dan Richards
Absolutely.
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Joe Rogan
And so we know that people lie. So we know that people lie. We know that people love to be in a position of authority, to be the only people that are allowed to distribute the truth. We know that.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Do you want to get provocative real quick?
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Joe Rogan
Sure.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So nowadays there's a lot of conjecture about the historical accuracy of different things involving World War II. And Jamie, if you were to go to the Baalbek folder, or in fact go to the folder called swastika. So this is something that I got tremendous heat for. Where is that? When I went to Baalbek, I noticed that there were swastikas all over the place. And I'm like, well, that's interesting.
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Joe Rogan
That's an ancient symbol.
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Jimmy Corsetti
What a lot of people are not aware of is that the swastika is Prehistoric. It's found on five continents around the world and dates back approximately 10,000 years. It is found in Europe, Africa, Asia, north and South America, all before transoceanic sea travel was thought to be possible. If you scroll through the images, Jamie, you'll kind of give the audience an understanding. Now, let me. Let me preface this whole conversation with this. Fuck Hitler.
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Joe Rogan
Of course he's Nazis. God, I love all that, right?
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Jimmy Corsetti
He stole the symbol, which was a symbol of peace, and he bastardized it. So this right here, I took this photo. You'd almost think it's photoshopped in. This is a photo. This is real. And I'm like, well, this is fascinating. I put this up on Twitter and I said, did Hitler know something about ancient history that we don't and the reason why? And this was a sincere question. Everyone started calling me a Nazi. I was spreading dangerous Nazism for it. No, this is a grown up conversation. Hitler was a very. He was evil, but he was intelligent. And the Nazis were arguably the most technologically advanced country at that time In World War II, the jet engine rockets. And for some reason, for reasons that I cannot find a definitive answer on, is why was Hitler so in to archeology? They call it Nazi archeology. And the mainstream people will say, oh, well, it's. He weaponized. He was trying to get this Aryan thing going to unite people and just create an enemy.
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Dan Richards
If they'll kick it to Himmler a lot, they'll say that Himmler was the one that was really into that shit. Yeah.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So that's. By the way, that's Peru, like 800 years ago. You'll find the Native Americans, the Pima Indians, the Navajo, the Apache.
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Joe Rogan
There's actually a Hindu temple in Los Angeles that was near my old house and we went to visit it. You could actually have weddings there. And they had to have a sign up explaining why there are so many swastikas in the building. I went to swastikas all over it.
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Jimmy Corsetti
I went to Japan. It's the same thing there.
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Joe Rogan
They have swastikas on different karate. When I was a kid, Okinawan karate, one of their patches was a swastika. And this was when I was a kid. So this is in the 80s when I was studying martial arts. When I first started studying martial arts, you could get these Okinawan karate patches that had a swastika on. It had nothing to do with Hitler. It had to do with Japan.
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Dan Richards
Right, well, it's. Sorry, go ahead.
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Jimmy Corsetti
All right, so real quick, while Jamie's on This slide, this is from the Hopel Mound people, which is in modern day Ohio. And that dates back 2200 years ago.
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Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ. This is from Modern Day Ohio. 2,000 years ago.
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Jimmy Corsetti
22,200 years ago. And so here's the point that I'm making about the swastika is that, look, people debate on whether it was the Milky Way galaxy, the Big Dipper, whatever you want to say its origins were. I do not think that it's a coincidence that a symbol is so specific as it is, is found on five continents around the world before trans oceanic sea travel was said to be possible. Because just to remind the audience, it wasn't till 1492 when Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue. End of. And it's like, no, this. I believe this is strong suggestive evidence that humans were traversing the continents and the oceans thousands of years before we were taught in school. Which is evidence of being more advanced than we were taught in school.
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Joe Rogan
Right, Right. Now, what did they think this thing was?
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Dan Richards
Well, I have an idea about that. I mean, it's not, you know, it's just Dan's idea, but the four. The four directions. The cross, that's the root of the swastika. That's pretty commonly used even in Native American culture as like your cardinal points. Right. This is north, south, east. So this could be a symbol for the passage of time. Here's this sky is turning. The cardinal points turn rotation of the earth. Exactly.
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Joe Rogan
Along with the points of the compass.
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Dan Richards
Exactly. But that's just an idea. I mean, it doesn't really add a whole lot of context to it as far as you know.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Why not just have a cross then? Up, down, left, right.
- [45:30]
Joe Rogan
Isn't it crazy that a geometric pattern is evil? Not just a geometric pattern, but a mustache.
- [45:38]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's deeply offensive.
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Dan Richards
It's funny. It is.
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Joe Rogan
Like, your beard is fine. Nobody has any problems with it. But imagine like if, like, oh, you have a wizard beard. You believe in child sacrifice.
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Dan Richards
Yeah, yeah.
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Joe Rogan
You know, like crazy. It's very strange what we've done. And obviously that's how horrific Hitler was.
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Jimmy Corsetti
So here's something people need to understand. I want to emphasize this point. Hitler, people need to look in the details. He was looking for giants in Africa. They did. They. They set a mission to.
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Joe Rogan
Well, he was also meth.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
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Joe Rogan
I'd be looking for giants in Africa, bro. We're gonna go find dinosaurs. Let's go.
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Jimmy Corsetti
I. I love it. The thing is, though, it's like I have not found an answer on why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant. Covenant. He was looking for Thor's hammer and the Holy Grail. And. And the thing is, to me, I'm like, I don't what did hit. I feel like there's something that they knew about ancient history that we don't. I don't know if this is true or not, but I feel like I can't find a straight answer. And let me tell you this, if you go Googling for answers on Hitler's.
- [46:42]
Joe Rogan
Interest in archaeology, FBI comes knocking at your door. What are you up to, Jimmy?
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Jimmy Corsetti
You're gonna find the same article. So this is actually kind of explosive. About two years ago, I made a video about Google sabotaging their search results. Because remember how. I'll show you, if you Google some topic, it'll say there's like a billion results. So I made a video on this, and they would max out at it didn't used to be this way. Because I remember watching a video years ago of people going thousands of pages to find some blog spot on some topic. It then became limited. I did an experiment myself many times on benign topics such as pancakes was one of them. I typed in pancakes. It had 700 million results. And then it would only go Back to page 41, and then it would recycle all those pages before the dozens of pages would recycle some of the same exact mainstream articles. And so I did this on all kinds of topics. And now Google has since removed the page numbers, and so you can only just go, see more, see more, see more. And so if you Google any type of topic and if you're looking for answers on this, they're going to keep sending you the same regurgitated mainstream articles. So I can't find a reliable answer on why Hitler was so invested in ancient history. And again, I don't give a shit about his Aryan stuff.
- [47:55]
Joe Rogan
Like, right, why was he into the occult? Why was he. Yeah, I want to know why he.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.
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Joe Rogan
Well, obviously they. Their engineering was insane. I mean, to this, like, look, so many of our best vehicles that we buy today. The most coveted vehicles came out of Nazi Germany. And originally Audi, right? Volkswagen, which is Porsche, you know, BMW, Bavarian Motorworks. I mean, all that shit came from the fucking Nazis. I mean, have you ever seen Hitler's race car? No. Hitler had an Audi race car.
- [48:26]
Jimmy Corsetti
Really?
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Joe Rogan
Yeah, man. It's worth like a shit ton of money. See if you can find Hitler's race car. But this was. I mean, their engineering was superior. This is the reason why we had Operation Paperclip. So Operation Paperclip, we brought over all of the best Nazi rocket scientists.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Wernher von Braun.
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Joe Rogan
Yeah. That's how we got NASA. We got NASA essentially from Nazis.
- [48:49]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's you.
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Dan Richards
To put people on the moon. I mean.
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Joe Rogan
Oh, man. I had a. Yeah, that's his original race car. Isn't that fucking crazy?
- [48:55]
Dan Richards
But that was basically a V2.
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Joe Rogan
That's Audi, right? Is that is not. What was the Os? Mercedes Benz. Did he have more than one? I believe he had a later one. That. That's it. That's the one.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Wow.
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Joe Rogan
That one had the Audi symbol in the front of it.
- [49:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
Can you just clarify your pronouns so I know not to be offended that you're interested in this.
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Joe Rogan
I'm an American man. We're coming to your town. So look at that photograph. Click on that. Auto Union. I guess that was what Audi's original name was. Isn't that crazy? Look at that car.
- [49:29]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's pretty sharp.
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Joe Rogan
Pretty fucking dope. I mean, in 1939. Oh, my God. It's probably worth. It says it's worth 5.5 million pounds.
- [49:37]
Dan Richards
And illegal to sell on so many markets.
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Joe Rogan
Is that pounds? Yeah, that little sign.
- [49:43]
Dan Richards
So many things. They would be like, oh, that's Hitler's card. No, sorry, we can't have you listing that here, buddy.
- [49:47]
Joe Rogan
Well, Tom Segura bought. Bought Bert Chrysler a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups. Like one that he handled cup. Yeah.
- [49:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
Really?
- [49:55]
Joe Rogan
Allegedly. But you know how the. Do you.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Let's get him in the studio and see this thing.
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Joe Rogan
Yeah, but if you have that, you're a monster. But if you had Genghis Khan's sword, you're cool.
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Dan Richards
Yeah.
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Jimmy Corsetti
That's actually an interesting. That's a good comparison.
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Joe Rogan
He killed a lot more people.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [50:09]
Joe Rogan
10 of the population of Earth.
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Dan Richards
But he did long enough ago that you don't hear anybody talking about it.
- [50:13]
Joe Rogan
He raped so many people that his DNA is in a giant percentage of people today.
- [50:17]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's like 20%.
- [50:20]
Joe Rogan
We've done it before. I forget what the numbers are, but they're really nutty. But the point is, there's something particularly disgusting to us about that one genocide. And it's really interesting and you wonder how long it's going to take. Dan Carlin has talked about this in depth because he talks about the Mongols and that it's so far in the past. We're talking about 1200 AD. It's so far in the past that we look at it with almost an objective perspective instead of a moral perspective. So we say, you know, one thing that Genghis Khan did, that was great, he opened up trade to the east, and he was a believer of all religions. You could practice anything. He didn't impose anything on people, but he fucking killed everybody.
- [51:06]
Dan Richards
Like, if you were alive back then.
- [51:08]
Joe Rogan
He'S way worse than Hitler. He killed 10% of the population of Earth. But the Nazis were so recent. You know, we have grandfathers that are alive today that fought in World War II, and they can tell you, you know, like, hey man, I fucking remember this shit. And then we have Jews like Ari Shafir's dad, who was in the concentration camps. Ari Shafir's dad has a tattoo in his arm.
- [51:29]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's wild.
- [51:29]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. His dad's in his 80s, I believe.
- [51:31]
Dan Richards
Wow. That recent memory is a big part. Like, I see the Hunter S. Thompson stuff on your wall. You read his book of Hell's Angels?
- [51:38]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [51:39]
Dan Richards
You remember him talking about that aspect of it that the bikers. The Hell's Angels rocked? Nazi memorabilia. The guy, he asked the guy, why. Why don't you? He's like, because my dad fought the Nazis and he fucking hates this. So I wear this because I wear this just to piss off my dad.
- [51:57]
Joe Rogan
A lot of that is contrarian, but that's.
- [51:59]
Dan Richards
That's. But my point is, is that, you know, he wouldn't. A Genghis Kong symbol wouldn't be doing any good.
- [52:04]
Joe Rogan
Right, Right.
- [52:05]
Dan Richards
It's this. This has. This has an emotional attachment. Genghis Kong's mustache would be fine on me. Right. People might laugh at me a little.
- [52:11]
Joe Rogan
Bit, but I don't even know what it looked like.
- [52:12]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, I'd say it.
- [52:13]
Dan Richards
I guess.
- [52:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
They don't know what he looks like. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty good.
- [52:18]
Joe Rogan
But it's the Nazi thing. The fact that it's so horrific, it just, like, puts anyone who has anything to say that's coloring outside the lines. You get labeled the Holocaust denier and anti Semite. You know, the worst labels that they can put on you. And a good example of that is that podcast. Oh, God, I forget his name. But it was the Tucker Carlson controversy where he had this guy on his podcast, and he was talking about what William Churchill's role in the Holocaust was because they had put these embargoes on Germany and basically starving everybody to death. And they just started calling him a Holocaust denier. And that's, like, not what he was talking about at all. That's not what he was Saying at all. He was just saying no. There's a multifaceted explanation for why they decided to exterminate all these Jews. And part of it was because of an embargo where they were starving people out. What is his. Daryl Cooper and what is his podcast called? It's excellent. I listen to it all the time. But my brain's not working right now. I just got out of the gym. Come on, meathead mode.
- [53:31]
Jimmy Corsetti
I know what you're talking. I can't. I've drawn a blank on it as well.
- [53:35]
Joe Rogan
Martyr made. That's right. Martyr made. And he's martyr made on Twitter and Instagram and. And you know, to call that guy an anti seminar or a holocaust is so stupid. He's a brilliant guy and his podcast is excellent. And he's really sensitive and well balanced and he gives a very comprehensive view of things. It's not in any way prejudiced.
- [53:55]
Dan Richards
It's a great podcast, but you're not allowed to color outside the lines.
- [53:58]
Joe Rogan
Well, yeah, that's all he's. He was just saying that Churchill was one of the villains.
- [54:02]
Dan Richards
Yeah. And that's very. That's. That's realistic. Like the multiple different reasons for that. You tighten up their belt, they're going to. That's not going to be passed to the top. That's going to go straight to the people in the camps.
- [54:12]
Joe Rogan
Exactly.
- [54:13]
Dan Richards
It's real. That's. And that's no brainer. Shit.
- [54:15]
Joe Rogan
Right. The murder of all those Jews. That's not what he's doing. That's where it's so crazy about stifling discourse.
- [54:24]
Dan Richards
Yeah. Because.
- [54:25]
Joe Rogan
Because that was a fascinating conversation and we should be considering that, like, wow, that's crazy. There were so many factors, so many horrible things going on all together.
- [54:32]
Dan Richards
Well, they say you're supposed to learn from history, but how the fuck are you going to learn from history if you actually take the lessons out of it? Right. This is important thing here. You think about this right now with the stuff in the Middle east in the last 20 years.
- [54:43]
Joe Rogan
Sure.
- [54:43]
Dan Richards
Every time we put an embargo on, there we are. We're not starving Saddam Hussein, we're starving the people in his freaking prison.
- [54:49]
Joe Rogan
So remember that Dave Smith was talking about that on a podcast recently that during the Clinton administration, the embargoes starved to death 500,000 children.
- [54:57]
Dan Richards
See, that's fucked.
- [54:58]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
- [54:59]
Dan Richards
And that's worth remembering. And it doesn't. If having that conversation makes somebody call you a Holocaust denier, that person should be out of the conversation, in my opinion.
- [55:07]
Joe Rogan
Right.
- [55:08]
Dan Richards
And like you were saying academ is chock full of those kinds of things.
- [55:10]
Joe Rogan
And they should be shamed. They should be shamed by people who want to know the whole picture.
- [55:16]
Dan Richards
It's the opposite of knowledge.
- [55:17]
Joe Rogan
Right. It's certainly not condoning holocausts. It's fucking. It's so stupid to not be looking at everything.
- [55:24]
Jimmy Corsetti
The good news is that people are waking up to this. A lot of people think just like us, where they're objective enough to understand that, like, well, that's silly. And so they're putting themselves in a corner in this echo chamber where people just aren't listening to them anymore. Like, when it comes to, like, mainstream archeology, we call it big archeology, establishment archeology, they're putting themselves into a corner where people like, if you're gonna. If I'm gonna ask questions about the swastika and you're gonna say, I'm spreading dangerous Nazism, some people will buy into it. But I've noticed that most people are like, no, he's asking a question.
- [55:52]
Joe Rogan
Well, we have the Internet now. We have shows like yours and yours and mine where you can have conversations about things, and people get to see, oh, these people that are in control. They're all loons. And they're all telling us that you have to think this one way or you're the worst person on earth. And I don't buy it.
- [56:09]
Dan Richards
No, it's.
- [56:09]
Joe Rogan
It's a dumb way to look at the world.
- [56:11]
Dan Richards
It's un American. Sorry to flag for a second, but yeah, it really is. Proud to be. I live in a country where I can have somebody with their pronouns in their bio and somebody who not with their prime. We can both yell at each other and not have us end up in jail over it.
- [56:24]
Joe Rogan
It's also this position that people have when they're teachers, when they're educators, and they have this position, you know, and. And I can speak to it a little bit from martial arts, because in martial arts, when I first started doing martial arts, it was in the 1980s. In the 1980s, every discipline believed they had the very best discipline. All the judo people thought judo was the only martial art you needed to know. All the karate people thought karate was it. Taekwondo people, where I came from, they all believed in Taekwondo. And it took ufc, the UFC to slam everything together and go, oh, Jesus, half of this stuff is useless.
- [57:04]
Dan Richards
Yep.
- [57:04]
Joe Rogan
And, you know, and some of it's not useless. Right. There were some things from. Like, Jon Jones won the UFC heavyweight title this past weekend with a Taekwondo Kick.
- [57:13]
Jimmy Corsetti
It was amazing.
- [57:13]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
- [57:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
That was unbelievable.
- [57:15]
Joe Rogan
I was so happy because that was my thing. So me watching him do that was like, yes. Why aren't more people doing this? Like, you guys should have been doing this from the beginning. It's the most powerful kick in the sport. But this. The. You were in trouble if you trained in other disciplines. Like, Bruce Lee was a heretic, and he's probably one of the most important figures in martial arts, not just because he introduced people to it, like myself, who became martial artists because I was a Bruce Lee fan. He also combined all kinds of different martial arts, and that was jeet kune do. He developed a style that was essentially. He took western boxing, he took some judo that he learned in karate and all these different techniques and just tried to find what is the absolute best thing for just fighting. And that was. He was a heretic. Like, he was. His life was threatened for that. And it's because the educators want to be the only people that can distribute information, and they don't want to be challenged. When I was in high school, I had a teacher. His name was Mr. Holman. He was a very nice guy, but he was a smart guy that wanted to be the only smart guy. And he was great talking to me because I was a stupid kid. But unfortunately, one day I had watched a documentary, and I've always had a very good ability to recall things. And we were in class, and he was talking about the pollution in Lake Erie. And I had just watched a documentary about the extensive work that they had done to clean up Lake Erie, and that they had made these huge strides in removing pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie. And he was talking about stuff that he had Learned in school 20 years prior. And so when I was. I said, well, you know, there's a PBS documentary. And I brought this up in class where there's been this extensive work, and they talked about the amazing accomplishments of cleaning up Lake Erie. And he got so mad at me. I'm like, you're not mad at me, man. You're mad at pbs. Like, I don't fucking do any research. I watched a documentary. But back then, you could say, you don't know what you're talking about. And I couldn't pull my phone out and go, oh, but what. Look at that, right? You can watch it, dude. Like, these people have done amazing work cleaning up Lake Erie. But he didn't want anyone else to have any information. Other. What he should have said is, that's fascinating. I haven't Seen that documentary. Can you. Do you recall the name of it? And let's see if we can get it. Maybe show it to the class.
- [59:40]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [59:41]
Joe Rogan
I'm going to try to do that because that's great.
- [59:42]
Dan Richards
Step forward.
- [59:43]
Joe Rogan
That's a good sign. What I'm talking about is what Lake Erie had become because of industrial engineering and because of pollution and waste that was coming from all these plants. So he was true. He was correct. But time had changed. And he did not like that. I knew that, and he did know that. And I remember being in that class going, this is so crazy. This is my fucking science teacher. My science teacher doesn't want details. He doesn't want facts.
- [60:06]
Jimmy Corsetti
This happened to me. So I was in the military years ago, and it wasn't long after I got home from Iraq, and I was going to Warrior Leadership course, which is to become an E5A sergeant. And back then they were teaching ABC, which is airway bleeding. What was the other one? Circulation or whatever. And for emergency medical response, if someone's dying. And they had since updated where bleeding is the most important thing to focus on, because soldiers were bleeding out. And during this Warrior Leadership course, they're teaching the core, the class, 30 people, wrong information has since outdated. And I try to interject to say, oh, this is what they're teaching now. It was the same exact thing that happened. He didn't stop. You know, this is what's written down right here. I'm like, no, but that's not even what they're teaching in theater right now. Like, I'm trying to. This is. This is medical emergency stuff that could save someone's life. And he didn't want to hear it one bit. And I couldn't believe it. I was astonished.
- [60:56]
Joe Rogan
You have said, that's interesting. I did not know that. We need to update what we're showing you. These three factors are the same. But now we know. Thank you, Jimmy. Now we know that bleeding is more primary. That should be the. That's the response of a real leader.
- [61:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [61:10]
Joe Rogan
And a real leader. You're always going to have blowhards in your class that are going to want to hear their own voice. They want to talk about stuff and chime in and correct people. But you got to let a certain amount of that. And that's the Internet. And people don't like that. And that's why they wanted to ban people from Twitter. They don't like these people coming along that have ideas like the Great Barrington Declaration, where they, you know, the government actually conspired to get these people removed from Twitter. And we know that because Elon, thank God, bought Twitter and changed discourse. But this was a concerted effort to take these people who were brilliant people who had degrees, were experts in this field that they were discussing, and they decided they were going to remove them because they didn't go along with the narrative. And they were confusing people in a time where they were trying to force vaccinations on everyone.
- [62:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right.
- [62:03]
Dan Richards
The emotion side of it, from the individual levels, like what you guys described, you have a teacher, the emotional reaction, that's a huge part of it. But when the. Like, that's a huge part of it. When. Especially with archaeology, because a lot of it's not really hard science. A lot of it's like, I've got this arrowhead here and I've conjured up this story, and so now it's my story. And you're not attacking the science, you're attacking me. But it gets even worse when you look at it. What they get like this hate for Graham Hancock in particular. Graham Hancock, they. That makes it. Where it's like you can't trust a damn word that comes out of their mouth when they're discussing. Like, if we were talking back to the martial arts, you know, one of the things that came out was aikido was just ass. It's no good at all for like man to man combat. It's. What was it for? Like samurais that have been knocked off a horse or some shit.
- [62:47]
Joe Rogan
Well, it was designed to redistribute the energy of your attacker.
- [62:52]
Dan Richards
Okay.
- [62:52]
Joe Rogan
So if someone's coming at you with a sword, if you don't have a sword and a guy swings a sword and you're fast enough to get away from the path of the sword and grab the guy's arm or body and manipulate him to the ground to remove his sword, it's essentially a disarming.
- [63:09]
Dan Richards
Okay, so it's not the best thing in the world.
- [63:11]
Joe Rogan
Work against a wrestler.
- [63:13]
Dan Richards
Okay. Is way better.
- [63:16]
Joe Rogan
Wrestling is the. If you want to find out the best way to take a person to the ground and control them, we 100% know it's wrestling.
- [63:23]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, you just grab the most ancient sport in the world that dates back.
- [63:25]
Joe Rogan
To the Sumerians and by the way, wrestling. In wrestling, I include judo, I include different forms of jiu jitsu that were ancient because these allowed people to manipulate limbs and to control joints, which allowed them also to take people down and submit them. But the point is, you had a bunch of people believing that this one Goofy ass martial art was the end all be all because of a good Steven Seagal movie.
- [63:52]
Dan Richards
Exactly. And what my point was there is it's like you're considered pretty much an expert in martial arts. You're not, not like you're a professional announcer for ufc. You know your. So if I watched you say Steven Seagal, you know his martial arts, It's a keto, man. I don't know what to tell you.
- [64:08]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. But I would not do that. I would tell you Steven Seagal was really good.
- [64:12]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [64:13]
Joe Rogan
Really good at Akito.
- [64:14]
Dan Richards
But if you were, if you, if you hated Steven Seagal, if you were one of his many haters, you could just attack a keto without ever saying his name and just be digging him a ditch. Right. You could just be burying him without ever mentioning Steven Seagal's name. You could just attack Aikido. Aikido is a shit martial art. It's, it's not effective, it's not very good. And then by extension you're making Steven Seagal look bad. And this is one of their favorite tactics to do to Hancock. They will attack. This idea is racist. It's inherently bullshit. They don't have to mention Hancock's name though. It's just, they just glue the two. They're so insidious this way.
- [64:47]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. And they connect the connecting Hancock to white supremacy and aliens is the dumbest one because first of all, he never said nothing about aliens. And not only that, not only does he not think of it as white people built this stuff, he thinks it's the people that live there, but they live there a long ass time ago. It's the same people, it's Africans. Whoever built the pyramids, they were Africans. Like I'm an American.
- [65:11]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. Let me just remind the audience where they lived. Egypt is in Africa.
- [65:15]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah. They. That is Northern Africa. And it's the most sophisticated construction we have ever witnessed on the face of the earth. Anybody that disagrees, you need to really study what they accomplished just in the great Pyramid. It's mind boggling precision. It's not just the incredible feat of moving massive stones hundreds of miles through the mountains. It's the mind boggling precision of the construction of these buildings that it's so crazy. It's almost like they made it so nutty that even if everything dissolved and expired, it would give us at least some clue that maybe something happened. Maybe people had achieved a level of sophistication. And my thought is, and this is just a guess, is that as we move towards metal and we move towards using different kinds of combustion engines and electronics. We moved in a very specific area of technology. And we were allowed to do this because things have been relatively peaceful for a couple hundred years. Okay, Relatively peaceful. And also there's war in other places. So it allowed us to spend our time here devising ways to fuck up people over there. That's the Manhattan Project. Right. But if you have a completely different avenue that thinking goes in and innovation goes in, and instead of combustion engines and electronics, you have something that we haven't even considered. And that to me, seems like what Egypt is. It seems to me that they have this incredibly fertile area. So if people look at Egypt now, you're looking at all the sand and all the shit. That is not what it looked like in the thousands of years before the construction of the pyramid. It was a rainforest and it was fertile. And so my thought is these people probably had plenty of food and so they didn't have to go anywhere. And so they weren't attacked that often. The Nubians conquered them. And that's when the statues started changing, looking more southern African. But you have these people that live in this incredibly resource rich place and they were able to spend thousands of years there. And I think in those thousands of years, they devised methods that we still haven't even considered because we went in a different path and we, we can't consider any other paths. We consider our path and we say, well, we're the furthest we lived, we live today. Okay, so those fuckers in the past, they're basically cave people, right? That's how we look at it.
- [67:53]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's. Yeah, they look at them like dumb people playing with stones. Oh, they were silly. Yeah, they used stones because they weren't smart enough to use metal. It's like when you look at the details of stone, it's like you could say it's more impressive.
- [68:02]
Joe Rogan
Well, we wanted to talk about Gobekli Tepe. And Gobekli Tepe is not just fascinating in its construction, but also in the timeline, because the timeline everything up. I remember when Graham Hancock and Zoe Hawass were having that big debate with that other guy who's an archaeologist. The American guy's very smug, but he's like, what evidence do you have of a civilization that lived 10,000 years ago? Well, you have one now.
- [68:24]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [68:25]
Joe Rogan
So you have to shut the up because you were wrong. So in the 1990s, this sheep herder finds this stone. He starts kicking it and moving it around and he realizes, wow, this is a big Ass stone. I probably bring in some smart dudes to figure this out. And they start digging and they go, oh, Jesus. This is these huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D carved animals on them. At a time that we thought people were living in teepees. Right. We thought people had stone tools. We didn't think there was any metal.
- [68:54]
Dan Richards
We thought it had to be done the opposite way around. We thought you needed to be a hunter gatherer, a farmer, and then you could build. And now they had to flip that entire. On its ear.
- [69:03]
Joe Rogan
Well, actually, maybe I think they only flip that on its ear to try to make it look like they were right about the timeline of hunter gatherers.
- [69:11]
Dan Richards
Completely agree.
- [69:12]
Joe Rogan
And to ignore the possibility of an ancient civilization before Mesopotamia.
- [69:16]
Dan Richards
I completely agree.
- [69:17]
Joe Rogan
Because it's the only thing that makes sense. There's no way. When you're just struggling to find food. Okay. And if you ever go on a fishing trip or a hunting trip, it's hard to get food when we have modern stuff. It's hard to get food with a rifle. Right, Right. So these people were getting food, and they somehow or another in between them, while, like, running around trying to shoot rabbits with a bow and arrow, they figured out how to make these massive stone columns and. And put them in position and. And move them in circles and hundreds of them.
- [69:47]
Dan Richards
Pretty great artists, too, doing some relief carvings. I mean, that's some. That's not the same as just that.
- [69:52]
Joe Rogan
But animals that weren't carving to the area, which is like, what. How do you even know this is a thing? What is this?
- [69:58]
Jimmy Corsetti
So, Goli Tepe, brother, if there is such a thing as an ancient conspiracy theory, it's. It's this. So I remember hearing Graham Hancock come on your show back in, like, 2015 or 2017, and he was talking about Gobekli Tepe. And at that time, he had shared that the site was only approximately 5% excavated. It's the first video on my channel. It's like, Aug, Aug 2017. And I share the details of it. These pillars dates back 11,600 years. It appears to be purposely buried at the same time of the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. This is fascinating. And, you know, excavations were continuing, so I'm like, okay, I'm going to back burn this topic of Gobekli Tepe for a little while. Let them further their excavations, and I'll revisit this later when there's something new to share. So earlier this summer, I'm like, all right, let me. Let me revisit Gobeka itepe and see what's new there. And I was astonished to learn that that 5% figure was still the same. Have you heard this?
- [71:00]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I've watched your videos on it.
- [71:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
YouTube channel Bright Insight. Subscribe.
- [71:05]
Joe Rogan
Undeniably strange. Your videos are undeniably strange. So here's some images where you could see what it kind of looks like along with this global heritagefund.org story on. So it sells 5%. 5%.
- [71:20]
Jimmy Corsetti
And that figure is still the same as of 2023. 1. There's a lady who does tours there and corroborated the 5% figure. And then there's a gentleman named Hugh Newman who's an author and also leads tours. And he communicated with me that what they were going to do and I couldn't believe this. They're going to defer a full scale excavation for quote, future generations with a 150 year estimated time frame for a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe. And I'm like, wait a second, are you serious? Like this makes no sense. We're talking about arguably not just the world's oldest ancient site, but arguably the most mysterious because it's like you were just saying it's not supposed to exist based on everything we were taught in school. It's supposed to be the Sumerians. And then you have the site of Gobekli Tepe made up of sophisticated pillars and concentric circles at least 5,000 years older. Yeah, almost 7,000 years older than Stonehenge. And Stonehenge is a mystery of itself. So I start looking and I start googling and looking into the details. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. How could there possibly be, how could they defer excavations for future generations when this may be the most important ancient site on earth involving our lost, our mysterious lost ancient past. And so I started digging into this and I couldn't believe what I found. So they were doing large scale excavations, but that has since ceased. Just to clarify, they are still excavating Gobekli Tepe, but they have rolled and dialed back the large scale excavations of the years prior and they are focusing on conservation and tourism management of the site. And like I said, with 150 year time frame and I'm like, wait a second. And I have all the screenshots in that folder.
- [72:57]
Joe Rogan
Because of funding?
- [72:58]
Jimmy Corsetti
Absolutely not. So not only have they never claimed that it's related to funding, but this is where things get bizarre is that there's a Turkish conglomerate called the Dogeous Group which consists of 250 companies within Turkey. It's a billion dollar industry. And they're the ones that took over management and funding of the site back in 2017. They announced this at all places. The World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in 2016 is when they announced this partnership initial funding of $15 million. At that time, they set up the infrastructure for tourism. Roads, sidewalks, walkways, roofing platforms. And since then is when they dialed back the excavations. And I'm like, this makes absolutely no sense. So it has. Let me just be crystal clear here. It has nothing to do with funding. And they've never claimed as anything to do with funding. But their excuses, they have said, one of which is that, well, we want to wait for future technologies to develop so we can more safely excavate the site. And I'm like, wait a second, hold on a second. We're talking about pillars buried in dirt. It's 2024. Do not tell me that we do not have the technological capability to dig rocks up.
- [74:13]
Joe Rogan
What would be an alternative explanation?
- [74:16]
Jimmy Corsetti
So, okay, this is where things get fun. Oh, boy. So, rabbit hole, here we go. Let me say a couple of things before I get into it. One of which is that them saying that they're waiting for a future technology to develop to safely excavate the site. I'm like, what type of magical shovel or pressure water hose are we talking about here?
- [74:41]
Joe Rogan
Vacuum with dirt. Vacuum.
- [74:43]
Jimmy Corsetti
And since they're saying that they're continuing to excavate the site today, since they're saying they continue to excavate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it? Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods? And I already know that's not the answer because. Because there's been no issue with destructing the site from digging it up. It's not like they broke a pillar and like, oh, dang, wait a second, we need to walk this back. We're not doing things safely. That's not the case here. So there are a few explanations here.
- [75:09]
Joe Rogan
Okay, here's what I wanna hear.
- [75:11]
Jimmy Corsetti
So one of which is that I the most logical explanation, this is the less conspiratorial one, which is that it has to do with money. You have this Turkish conglomerate of people that are saturated with members of the World Economic Forum. For example, the CEO of the Dogeous Group is a longtime member of the World Economic Forum that may backburn the World Economic Forum for a half a second. They're businesspeople. They took over the site, and it's all about money now, back in 2019, Gobekli Tepe had approximately 19,000 visitors yearly. Now it's at a half a million. They're focused. If nothing else, they're just trying to bring revenue in. It's all about money. They don't care about excavating the rest of the site.
- [75:51]
Joe Rogan
It's not going to be 16 more million. It's not going to bring 15 more million. Million in revenue.
- [75:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right. And. And they just want their money back. Okay, Right. But I'm like, well, this is.
- [75:58]
Joe Rogan
That makes sense.
- [75:59]
Jimmy Corsetti
It does make sense.
- [76:00]
Dan Richards
That the way in on that real quick. And also the mystery plays. That site is probably the second most popular place in the planet with people like ourselves. And the more mystery is there, the more money it's. The more like, you know, we did deal in mystery. So if there's. If they excavate everything and we know everything there is about that side and it's all super mundane and there's nothing cool about it anymore, that tit dries up and there's no meltdown.
- [76:23]
Joe Rogan
But how could it ever stop being. I agree, it doesn't make any sense. I know, but that one doesn't make any sense.
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Dan Richards
That's a Zahi Hawass kind of thing. He's of the same opinion where I think a lot of the same things, excuse me, happen in Egypt for the same reason. Zahi Hawass is quoted with saying that those New Age people. It doesn't matter what happens in Egypt, the New Age people, they come. It's about tourism. Ever since the Arab Spring, tourism in Egypt has been lower. So I think a lot of the same. Like we're going to talk in a minute about the. The hidden chamber in the pyramid that they've located and still haven't excavated for whatever fucking reason. I think that might be part of it. If you want to get super mundane and not conspirator. It's just a simple. The tourists keep coming while there's a mystery there. As soon as we open that up, it's just an empty chamber.
- [77:04]
Joe Rogan
I mean, so I don't think. I don't buy that.
- [77:06]
Jimmy Corsetti
Me either.
- [77:07]
Joe Rogan
The mystery of the structures themselves that we have completely excavated is just so fascinating.
- [77:12]
Jimmy Corsetti
So let me be clear on Gobekli Tepe. It's somewhere between 5 and 10% excavate, which means that.
- [77:18]
Joe Rogan
So here it says some archaeological sites where only 10% or less have been.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Uncovered, none of which date back anywhere near remotely as old as Gobekli Tepe. And so just to put this into perspective, Gobekli Tepe according to ground penetrating radar, consists of approximately 200 T shaped pillars. Only 72 of them have been unearthed. And as of just a few years ago, they're dialing that back to fully excavate them, which again, the 150 year timeframe. And I'm like, this is entirely unacceptable. It is. There could be hidden answers about our lost ancient past waiting to be discovered on these pillars. Because all the pillars are trying to tell us some sort of story. They all have depictions, animals, all kinds of things on there.
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Joe Rogan
There's the shaman with the bag, right?
- [78:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Which is seen.
- [78:02]
Joe Rogan
Very interesting, right?
- [78:03]
Jimmy Corsetti
We've seen that from the Sumerians. We've seen it in South America.
- [78:06]
Joe Rogan
The bag thing is very fascinating.
- [78:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
It is. It's hotly debated.
- [78:10]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I'm sure. I don't. I mean, you could say maybe it's a tool bag. You could say maybe it's psychedelics. He's gotten that bag.
- [78:16]
Jimmy Corsetti
You know, academics say it's just water. It's a water. It's a water bucket, you guys.
- [78:20]
Dan Richards
There you go. Excuse me, you guys familiar with the work of Martin Sweatman?
- [78:24]
Joe Rogan
No, I'm not.
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Dan Richards
He's the one that. He was on Ancient Apocalypse Season 1 for a minute. He's the guy who made basically a star map of that pillar 43. And in his opinion, those three handbags at the top were three sunrises. And if that's the case, that would almost make sense because then like a picture of an Assyrian holding, that would be like holding of astronomical knowledge. Like, this symbol could have been a symbol of knowledge of astronomy, which is one thing honestly about Gobek.
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Joe Rogan
Could have been a book bag.
- [78:53]
Dan Richards
It could have been a book, right?
- [78:54]
Joe Rogan
I mean, it kind of makes sense. They probably had to travel around with their books.
- [78:58]
Jimmy Corsetti
So here's the thing. That pillar, that's just one pillar out of 200. And here we are debating, we don't even know what it is. It's all conjecture.
- [79:06]
Joe Rogan
Pull that up, Jamie, so we can see what that pillar looks like.
- [79:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
So this Gobekli Tepe situation is far more bizarre than we've described so far.
- [79:15]
Joe Rogan
I think the logical explanation, though, is that you have massive tourist revenue coming to see it as is. Why spend more money and excavate these things? I think that's just the pillar.
- [79:24]
Jimmy Corsetti
I think that's the most logical explanation. But it could be more insidious than that because.
- [79:29]
Joe Rogan
So that's one pillar.
- [79:31]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's pillar 43, the most debated one of them all. And there's approximately 128 more pillars that are still buried in the earth.
- [79:38]
Joe Rogan
What's that bird doing holding the earth?
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Dan Richards
Dr. Martin Sweatman, his first paper on Gobekli Tepe's pillar 43. He's got Scorpio on the bottom. He believes that Sagittarius, that that's the sun and if that. That's one. Basically it's a star map denoting the time that the comet smacked the earth is what he believes. Each one of those V's his latest paper on it. Each one of those V symbols is a day. Each one, in his opinion, each one of those boxes is a month. Month. And there is basically a full year denoting the whole thing. The way he's broke does very interesting stuff. And one interesting that's wild to me when we talk about like the lack of further excavations is almost every pillar we bring up has new symbology, new symbols, new iconography. If we're trying to find some sort of ancient proto language or something, we need more symbols, we need more things on earth. And that's completely opposed by the mainstream archaeology. The idea that these guys had any sort of written language is fucking ridiculous.
- [80:39]
Joe Rogan
But what are the theories involved in. You know, I know it's been theorized that it was purposely covered in dirt.
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Jimmy Corsetti
It really looks like it. If you look at pictures of the excavation, it looks like it was all piled in with stones and dirt. Because if it was some sort of natural event, it would have destroyed the pillars. The pillars are preserved. So it wasn't just blown in with dust. If you look at. It's gravel. And like as Graham Hancock has explained that Klaus Schmidt, the original excavator of the site before his untimely passing in 2014, the people that have worked the site believe it was intentionally buried. That is debated in academia today.
- [81:15]
Joe Rogan
But isn't there also carbon isotope dating of the ground soil that shows it's the same age throughout the entire. Whatever feet it is of the dirt that's covering it.
- [81:24]
Jimmy Corsetti
And so it's very apparent that it was purposely buried. And what's interesting about that is that it coincides exactly with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. So if you want an alternative idea on. So, okay, the mudslides. No, because it would destroy those pillars.
- [81:41]
Joe Rogan
Knock them over at least.
- [81:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, I've seen that in Iraq with the statues. So we'll share. Let's talk about this in a second. So this is where things get wild.
- [81:50]
Joe Rogan
So that's before the excavation. This is an aerial photo from. What year is this?
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Jimmy Corsetti
That should be 2004. No, excuse me. No, before 1994. They started excavations in 1994, 1995.
- [82:04]
Joe Rogan
So that is when it was just dirt. Everybody thought it was just a regular hillside. Which makes you wonder how many more there.
- [82:11]
Jimmy Corsetti
Well, they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey that are even older.
- [82:15]
Joe Rogan
Even older, yes.
- [82:16]
Jimmy Corsetti
So let me tell you a few different things about Gobekli Tepe. When you bring up pictures of the pillars, notice how they all annotate animals on them.
- [82:23]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
- [82:24]
Jimmy Corsetti
Now this is a fun topic and I have a few other things to share, one of which is that if you want to talk about reasons not to excavate it, I'll give you two possibilities. And this is just conjecture. I don't know what the answer is. Let me say this upfront. But part of it could have a religious implication as well as a climate change implication. Let me start with that. So we know it is an established fact that the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe happened between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago. We know that there was vast changes in weather patterns throughout the Northern hemisphere, the only part of it that's debated and as well as near extinction events or extinction events of many different mammals in North America. But what we know is that something happened, whatever it is, is what's debated. Whether it's a cosmic impact, whether it's a pole shift, whether it's sun cycles, all kinds of conjecture all the way around. But when I mentioned the wef, they are the biggest proponents of the manmade climate change narrative. They're the ones that want to get rid of gas powered stoves, they want us to get rid vehicles. They are pushing their initiatives around the world and they believe that we're destroying the planet. I'm not saying they're entirely wrong, but I don't agree with their ways of going about it. But that's a side point. But here's the thing. When you look at the legend of Noah's flood and the Noah and Noah's Ark, or excuse me, Noah's Ark and the Flood. So I'm not suggesting that there was a flood that covered every mountain on earth, and nor am I suggesting that there was a boat that housed every species of animal on Earth. However, if Noah's ark existed, many believe that it was crashed onto Mount Ararat, which is also in Turkey. And something fascinating is that in the Bible, in Genesis 8:20, some of the first verses after Noah emerged from the flood is that he was said to have constructed an altar to the Lord where he sacrificed some of every clean animal and Some of every clean bird Gobekli Tepe is in Turkey and every single one of those pillars annotates animals. And some have suggested that it could be Noah's altar. Now that could be one reason why they wouldn't want to excavate it is because Turkey is an Islamic country and if there was some Christian religious belief that was corroborated, they might not want that to happen. Another possibility is that the site itself might corroborate the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. And when we're in a timeframe where they don't like talking academics, they don't like talking about cataclysms, they want to pretend they don't, they didn't happen, they want everything to be man made climate change, they don't ever talk about the Sahara being green 5,000 years ago. Like when you're talking about Egypt being a rainforest, they find whale bones in the Sahara. Oh no, Joe, those are 30 million years old. So stop talking about it.
- [85:08]
Dan Richards
You know, it's amazing when you think about it.
- [85:10]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. And so as far as the climate change narrative, there could be a possibility that they don't want the evidence of a prehistoric civilization that was more advanced than what we ever thought to believe. That might corroborate some Christian narratives. And if nothing else, they don't want it to be brought into the discussion of modern day climate change. Because notice on the topic of climate change they never mention natural stuff. They don't discuss the Milankovitch cycles, which consists of three variables. One of which is the Earth's precession, the other is the Earth's tilt and the other is the distance from the Earth from the sun. All three of those variables are constantly changing every single day. Although immeasurable day by day, they happen over tens of thousands of years. But each individual of those variables impact climate on Earth. For example, when it talk about the green Sahara, they believe the most likely reason has to do with the Earth's processional cycle. I'm like, well wait a second, where's this in the conversation of modern day climate change? If we're talking about us destroying the planet, I would just like an answer as far as where these three variables are in the conversation.
- [86:14]
Joe Rogan
Did you see the Washington Post's very inconvenient data that they published about the temperature of Earth?
- [86:22]
Jimmy Corsetti
No.
- [86:22]
Joe Rogan
Please tell me, did you find the Washington Post climate study? They found that we're in a massive cooling period. If you go back x amount of 100,000 years and you look at what's happening to. Yeah, it Goes in cycles. But that's what it looks like now, right? Captures Earth's climate over the last 485 million years. Look at the dip we're in then. Look how it's never static. It's down and up and down and up and down and up. All throughout the history of the Earth, which is measurable. It's not to say that we don't have an impact on it. We definitely.
- [86:55]
Dan Richards
Pretty sharp. Pretty sharp increase there. But.
- [86:57]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but here's the thing. Even if we didn't. But there's sharp increases.
- [87:01]
Dan Richards
There's a couple other ones.
- [87:02]
Joe Rogan
Look at those guys. Look at 390 million years ago.
- [87:06]
Dan Richards
Look at that giant peak.
- [87:07]
Joe Rogan
That's fucking crazy. That's straight up and down. It's always happened. It's not like it's static. And then industrial engineering comes along and then you see this big increase. Oh, boy. What are we doing to the Earth? No, it's like even if we didn't do anything, we have no control over the temperature of the Earth. And what's really terrifying. Randall Carlson talks about this all the time is global cooling. That's what's really terrifying when global warming happens. Oh, no, you gotta move out of Malibu. You're gonna be okay. You gotta move to the places where it used to be cold and now it's warm. Because humans have always been nomadic. That's the whole reason why we're not in Africa anymore.
- [87:45]
Dan Richards
They fucking kill us. All right?
- [87:46]
Joe Rogan
So global cooling will kill everything. And we came. Randall talks about this, that we came very close at one point in human history. We came very close to losing that little ice change that's required to. To literally keep life.
- [88:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Jamie, will you bring up my ice age or ice folder? So I have an update from you from the last time I was on your podcast. Go over to the graph. It should be one of the first slides in it. That one. Go. Right. Hang out right there for a second. So when I was on your show last time, Joe, I discussed. I said something very specific. Where I said, I think the. This is with my exact words. I think the data might indicate that cold is more often than it's hot. And do you know what happened after that? I was going to send this to you, but I held off because you've seen enough hit pieces. So there was a hit piece done on me by Media Matters, which was funded by George Soros and their networking of Vox and other. They did this hit piece on me to say that Jimmy Corsetti was on Joe Rogan spreading climate Change, denial and inaccurate information. The only thing, if you could bring that back up, Jamie, please. The only thing that I said wrong is that I said the data might indicate that the Earth is cold more often than hot. Excuse me. No, the data absolutely, definitively shows that Earth is cold more often than it's hot. And what you're looking at here is straight out of the Utah Geological Survey. It's prestigious, it's found at the top of Google. And what you're looking at here is data from the last 450,000 years corroborated from data taken from ice core samples from Antarctica as well as Greenland. And what it shows is that not only are we in the middle of a 3 million year old ice age, there's something called glacials and interglacials. Glacials are where it's cold and the glaciers grow. Interglacials are where things warm and glaciers recede. What you're seeing here is four, arguably five interglacial periods over just the last 450,000 years. So never mind hundreds of millions of years ago. What it shows is that the periods of cooling last seven to nine times longer than interglacials, which are periods of warming. And here's the fun part. Interglacials last anywhere from 10 to 30,000 years and our warming started 11,600 years ago, which means that we're already in the window for potential catastrophe for things to start cooling again. So when I was on your show last time and I was mentioning Elon Musk talking about ice ages being a deep, deep rabbit hole, do you remember that he was talking about it? Well, I know what he's talking about. It's this. It means that we're already in the window where things could start cooling again. And when it does, we're in a lot of trouble, I think. And I can't speak on his behalf. I would. God, I gotta tell you, next time could you just text him and ask him if he thinks it's related to pole shifts? I need to tighten up my study on this because I'm like. I think because. Let me tell you something. Let me share something right now that you've never heard on this show before. You hear everyone talking about cosmic impact hypothesis, you hear people talking about sun cycles. Not a lot of people have been on here talking about pole shifts. Let me give a quick shout out to Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers. I recommend maybe you link up with them. Nobody has researched the topic of pole shifts and sun cycles as much as him. And he brought something to My attention I had never heard before. Jamie, the very first slide that you showed was of the Gothenburg excursion. So there was a partial pole flip right in the middle. See how it dates between 13,007 and 12,003. So the Younger Dryas started 12,800 years ago. And it's right in the middle of that ballpark range. We already know it is established science that when geomagnetic pole excursions happen, it changes weather patterns on Earth as well as the ocean current. Jamie, if you want to Google, there's a Space.com article titled that in 2025, some scientists are suggesting that the Earth's ocean currents may stop. Have you heard this?
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Joe Rogan
No.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Okay. And nowhere in the articles do they mention anything about pole excursions. So people need to understand that we're already in the middle of a. Of a pole excursion, which is a partial pole flip, which means that things are shifting inside the Earth. It's also known that that can cause changes in ocean current. Now, most mainstream articles, let me just be fair and tell you what they'll say. They'll say that, oh no, it's related to manmade climate change. We're. We're changing the currents of the ocean. I don't believe that. But yeah, hit, don't allow, don't let them take your data. Look at this. Nowhere in this article to explain why. But here's the thing. People need to understand that the number one thing that affects weather on Earth is of course the sun. The second thing is ocean currents. It's the reason why England is relatively temperate.
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Joe Rogan
Go back to that, Jamie.
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Jimmy Corsetti
It's the reason why England is relatively temperate is because the Gulf Stream flows up there and it keeps it relatively warm in comparison.
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Joe Rogan
The way it says it here, current could collapse, soon impacting the entire world for centuries to come. Leading climate scientists warn. So just by saying climate scientists, you're already implying at least this is the result of climate change, right?
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Jimmy Corsetti
That's what they do.
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Joe Rogan
Which further fuels this agenda, that manmade climate change is the cause, is the cause of all of our woes, right? Which is a narrative that you're consistently hearing. And again, to be real clear to someone who's going to say something about this, this is not to dismiss pollution. This is not to dismiss our impact on the atmosphere of the Earth and what we're doing with coal plants and all the bullshit that we're doing. For sure we're doing bad things, right? Also, if we weren't, we have no control over this thing, right? This thing is constantly moving and Both of those things need to be looked at at the same time. The problem is this whole narrative of climate science has been adopted by these same fucking people that want Twitter pronouns. It's the same people. It's the same sort of thing. And you have anything to say about it. If you want to talk about a swastika being an ancient symbol, now you're a Nazi, now you're a climate denier, you're a vaccine denier, you're this, you're that, you're a Holocaust denier. It's like the same kind of stupid shit. And unfortunately, with this one, this one is uniquely tied to money, this one is uniquely tied to green agendas and the enormous amount of funding that is going towards these green agendas and people that are profiting off of spreading this narrative. Bing, bing, bing, philanthropists that are making hundreds of millions of dollars promoting this idea of climate change being our primary problem. And if you deny it, you're a science denier.
- [94:15]
Jimmy Corsetti
And the reason why you shouldn't listen to these people is because they're leaving out the key data involving Earth's historical. Earth's historical climate data. They're not including all these other details. And so I think people need to look at pole shifts because it's very interesting in this alternative realm that you have people that are proponents of the, of the cosmic impact Hypothesis, you have Dr. Robert Schock with the sun cycles, you have other people talking about pole shifts. I think people should consider that all the above are correct. And let me explain why. When pole shifts happen, Earth's shields are diminished. We're in the middle of a pole shift right now. The Earth's shields are diminishing. And it's been happening since the 1800s. It's been accelerating over the last few decades. This is scientific data. The North Pole is shifting at like almost 40 miles a year when it was half that just a decade ago. And when the Earth shields diminish, we are more susceptible to cosmic impacts because lesser.
- [95:11]
Joe Rogan
40 miles a year.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Google it. This is real.
- [95:14]
Joe Rogan
Wow. It's happening. I have no idea. I thought it was feet a year now.
- [95:17]
Jimmy Corsetti
Now the mainstream will say, don't worry, it's still another thousand years away. And I'm like, they actually can't prove that because we've never. We've never been. We haven't been alive to document a pole shift. But what I'm trying to say is that we should consider the pole shift thing. Brother. Ask Elon Musk his thoughts on this sometime.
- [95:31]
Joe Rogan
Well, he actually just Tweeted something about it recently.
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Jimmy Corsetti
What'd he say?
- [95:34]
Joe Rogan
He tweeted something about the magnetic poles.
- [95:37]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh, my God.
- [95:38]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he tweeted something about.
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Dan Richards
I think he actually retweeted the core of the Earth. What's his face. I forget his name. But you were just shouting Ben Davison. Ben Davidson. I'm pretty sure he retweeted Ben Davison.
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Jimmy Corsetti
We need to find that out if that's the case, because here's the thing.
- [95:50]
Joe Rogan
Tweets so much, though, it takes so long.
- [95:52]
Jimmy Corsetti
I know.
- [95:52]
Joe Rogan
Through his weeds. I don't know.
- [95:53]
Jimmy Corsetti
He does it too much. It's less effective because I'm like, I miss stuff. And. And I follow him closely, actually. There you go.
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Dan Richards
Look at this.
- [96:03]
Joe Rogan
Which. A vast ball of molten rock, Earth core, which generates most of our magnetic field, is 85% iron and moves independently from the surface plates, which is why the magnetic pole changes position.
- [96:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
I love Brian Romelli. If I'm saying his name right. We follow each other. He's a great guy. I think Elon Musk is giving a hint here because you remember how the northern lights were visible as far south as Mexico in the last few months.
- [96:27]
Joe Rogan
That was from solar activity, Right?
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Jimmy Corsetti
Right. But the reason why it's more visible now is because the Earth shields are diminishing. This is. I'm not making. This isn't like, from Bob's website. This is mainstream science. Again, Ben Davison has taught me a lot on this, and he was actually on with Alex Jones not long ago, and he really blew Alex Jones mind. He vetted him. And so what I'm trying to say here is that, like, this is not being brought into the equation of manmade climate change at all.
- [96:53]
Joe Rogan
Well, because of all the things we were talking about, the educators want to be the only ones that distribute the information. And they don't want to look at the full picture. They only want to look at this one thing for the greater good of all of us. It's better if you just get people to only focus on getting an electric car.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Right.
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Joe Rogan
Which is.
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Dan Richards
Well, like, I've never. I've always. Ever since I started doing this stuff, I've had people that are like, hey, man, you fact check scientists. We want you in the climate change debate. And I've always had the opinion of, like, look, I'm talking about big old rocks and moving zero sum. There's zero skin in the game. And if I'm wrong about that, nothing changes. But if I'm wrong about climate change and I get a bunch of people, I Feel a little like it's.
- [97:29]
Joe Rogan
It's not your area of expertise.
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Dan Richards
It's not my area of expertise, and there's too much skin in the game.
- [97:32]
Joe Rogan
Right.
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Dan Richards
But when I did the debunking of Flit Dibbles, debunking of Graham, the part about the metallurgy, I spoke with an ice core specialist, and now there ain't but a handful of these dudes on the planet. Literally just a handful.
- [97:43]
Joe Rogan
That was a very important, important part of your debunking.
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Dan Richards
Oh, thanks. I appreciate that.
- [97:48]
Jimmy Corsetti
You're the guy that blew the roof on that. You're the guy that contacted firsthand.
- [97:52]
Joe Rogan
Well, let's explain what you did.
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Dan Richards
Well, I spent an hour on a Zoom chat with the dude because what Flynn had said was that there was no proof of metallurgy in the Ice Age. And, well, of course there's no proof of it, but he said that we can prove definitively there was no metallurgy. And that's where it's like. Well, no, because they look for levels of lead and levels of lead. That graph you just showed with the interglacial periods, lead follows the.
- [98:12]
Joe Rogan
That.
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Dan Richards
Because when there's more dust on the ground, the reason they believe is there more dust on the ground, more gets kicked up, more ends up in the glaciers. But that's the same dirt that would be kicked up if they were digging for iron. Right? So either way, you're going to end up with more lead in the glaciers. So I talked to this ice core specialist for an hour on Zoom, and I'm like, man, so flesh this out for you. Explain to me. So he explains to me how they determine whether or not leads from an anthropogenic origin or if it's natural. And that's based on if there's an archaeological site that they can match the other isotopes to. He went through all the troubles with the. He even. Even lamented having. He's got other people in his field that are hardcore anti pseudoscience because they're, you know, climate change deniers are dealing with. And so he's all. He's like. And he's like, some of these guys are just too zealous, overzealous with it. I get where you're coming from. But then I put the video out and Flint contacts the dude and next thing you know. Well, you know, I didn't exactly say it, though. He doesn't change what he says. He just kind of implies that I wasn't quite being active. He doesn't. He doesn't Give a full anything. It makes it vague all of a sudden. And it quite clear he was pressured from a archaeologist. He's a climate. He's a climate science. Why do you care? Because they're all part of the same little Twitter keyboard warrior.
- [99:24]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, Twitter cult members. Yeah.
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Dan Richards
And that, that right there changed my attitude on like, it changed my attitude on the whole global warming thing. I was like, that's probably accurate. And I was like, ah, you know, I don't fucking know. I'm about to dig into this some because I don't trust you sons of bitches anymore. I know that if somebody pressured him from upstairs, he would have crumpled like a bag because he sure did when Flint pushed him.
- [99:45]
Joe Rogan
So the issue is that it's not like there's one explanation that could conceivably have caused this massive cataclysm. There's probably a lot of variables, just like there's always been. I mean, we always like to conveniently ignore super volcanoes. When one of those blows, the whole world's fucked. The country's dead, everyone's fucked.
- [100:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
You should consider the possibility that that's related to pole shifts as well. And I could give you a point. There's one that happened, you know, I've heard you talk about before, the Toba super eruption.
- [100:17]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
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Jimmy Corsetti
Did you know that happened at the same time of a geomagnetic pole excursion?
- [100:21]
Joe Rogan
Oh boy. Well, you're having all this movement.
- [100:25]
Jimmy Corsetti
There's movement inside the Earth. A full pole shift is when they believe that the inner most, the innermost portion of the molten within the Earth core shifts. A geomagnetic pole excursion is a partial pole flip, which they theorize is related to the outer portion of the mantle. The Earth's crust sits on top of molten everything. And when that shifts, it shifts our compasses. And it's not unreasonable to suggest that when something shifts inside the Earth, it would affect things on the surface. I touched on this in the last time I was on. But when it comes to earthquakes as an example, some originate in the crust, which is like 28 miles at its thickest, I believe, or on average. And others originate in the molten outer portion of the mantle. Well, if something shifts inside the Earth, why wouldn't it cause issues on the surface, whether it be earthquakes or volcanic activity? And some volcanic activity involving supervolcanoes coincides with geomagnetic pole excursions. And so when I was on your show last time talking about pole shifts along with the ice ages, I was part of the same topic. Why is it that Media Matters, funded by George Soros, decided to do a hit piece on Jimmy the YouTube brother. They came after me hard on this, which I, to be honest, I relished over. I was like, this is hilarious.
- [101:40]
Joe Rogan
I'm like, well, they don't understand that it's actually good publicity.
- [101:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
It is.
- [101:43]
Joe Rogan
And it makes me feel, like, credible anymore.
- [101:45]
Dan Richards
Right.
- [101:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
And it makes me feel like I'm over the target because what's that saying about you get the most flack when you're over it? So, like, I'm like, it makes me think that I'm onto something. Because nowhere in any of these climate change topics, you know, as far as, like, the narratives on it, do they mention anything natural involving, whether it be pole shifts. They sure as hell don't bring up the green Sahara. They don't bring anywhere into the equation. They don't bring up the scientific fact that the earth was warmer 4,000 years ago. There's Nobel Prize laureates that have been speaking out about this. There's two of them, Dr. Clauser. And there's another gentleman I'm gonna draw blank in the top of my head. But, like, they've shared this data, this is scientific fact, and they're getting shunned and ridiculed for it.
- [102:23]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. The problem is there's a consensus that's been politically accepted and it's been talked about so much. It's a political talking point. And if they lose that political talking point, they lose a large percentage of their platform.
- [102:38]
Dan Richards
Oh, yeah, right.
- [102:39]
Joe Rogan
There's so many parts of the liberal, the leftist platform that they need to have these narratives. And one of them is climate change. And that Donald Trump is a climate change denier. The right wing people are climate change.
- [102:55]
Dan Richards
Deniers, ergo science deniers, ergo racists, ergo.
- [102:59]
Joe Rogan
It's very, very, very, very stupid. And it's bad for all of us because I think we all need to have an understanding of how delicate our environment is and how delicate life on earth is, and that it is this constantly changing thing that has never been static. We know that, we know about the dinosaurs, we know about all these different things that we know about the ice age, but we don't truly have a comprehensive narrative that everyone accepts. It's become politicized.
- [103:26]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [103:26]
Joe Rogan
And it's become politicized by the worst people because they're the cultists.
- [103:30]
Dan Richards
They're the ones that made not the only ones. But, you know, I'm a lot less political than a lot of people in this community. And I said it when, when Covid first started getting bad and you could see it on the Internet. I was real quick to say, man, we're gonna be locked down for years, guys, and everybody's laughing at me. But it's like it's a political football. Neither side, neither side is going to to drop a square. We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore. We live in a society of give them an inch, they take them off. Neither side is going to concede one fucking inch on this. And we're going to be dealing with the same argument three years from now. And lo and behold, we were dealing.
- [104:05]
Joe Rogan
And that's what's crazy about this, is that data has become politicized. Science and data and knowledge has become politicized.
- [104:13]
Dan Richards
Over 80,000 papers were retracted last year. 80,000 scientific papers, like 60% of them were medical. The top 10 most still cited papers that have been retracted are all med. The medical community is fucked right now. From COVID It turned in on itself and just started. And if you look at their papers and stuff, it's insane. They are all at each other's throats in all kinds of different ways still citing retracted papers and all kinds of goofy little shit because it became a political football. We could see it on tick Tock. You watch a nurse come out there and she's going to do her little tick tock and you could just look, is that a donkey next to her name or an elephant? If it's an elephant she can tell you there's nobody in this hospital, it's fucking empty. If it's a donkey, she can tell you about the body outside. A machine outside making corpse starch out of the fucking dead people that they're, they can't bury him as fast as they're dying. It's. It was so openly easily for the average Joe could look right through it, could just see if this is a fucking. This is just an argument between the two parties, isn't it? They're just transferred this to the medical problem.
- [105:16]
Joe Rogan
Well, you remember in the beginning days of the pandemic when they were really fear mongering when they gave a preposterous number of people that were going to die from COVID And what was the percentage at the high point? Was it like three and a half percent or something like that? Or was it 30%? It was something nice. There's a compilation video, Jamie, see if you can find it where they're dunking on Donald Trump because Donald Trump said I've heard it's less than 1%. He was right.
- [105:43]
Jimmy Corsetti
He was totally correct.
- [105:43]
Joe Rogan
Quite a bit less than 1%.
- [105:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
He was right about the UV stuff too.
- [105:46]
Joe Rogan
But I think they were trying to say that it was 34%. I think that's what they were saying. It's 3.4 or 34, I can't remember which. But they were repeating it ad nauseam on television that this was going to be the death rate of people that got Covid. It's one of the things that justified the lockdowns. If it really was less than 1%, people go, so it's like what's the flu? And then you get into the flu. You go, well, what's the percentage difference? It's like 50% difference. Okay, what are we doing? Yeah, is this a bad flu? Is that what this is? This is like a bad flu. But you can't say that or you're some kind of anti science heretic. You're a terrible person. You're killing grandmas.
- [106:21]
Jimmy Corsetti
You know, if you want to mix it up, Jamie, there's a video. So last time I was on, I mentioned a clip of Donald Trump talking about it's going to get cold again. And I. We couldn't find the clip at the time, but I have it in my folder. Jamie, it's just Donald Trump. It's in the front with all the other folders.
- [106:36]
Joe Rogan
One step at a time. Let's try to find that video of them all repeating the same thing over and over again. It's Brian Stelter, that little weasel on cnn, constantly repeating the fact that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. He was right. He was absolutely correct.
- [106:52]
Jimmy Corsetti
Donald Trump doesn't just say things out of his butt like people make him out to believe. I'm not saying he doesn't talk in that way. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
- [106:59]
Joe Rogan
When he's very. If you're a ranter, you run. It's like you're a podcast.
- [107:03]
Dan Richards
You're. You run the rancher talking out your ass every now and again.
- [107:05]
Jimmy Corsetti
He wasn't talking out of his butt with the UV killing off bacteria and viruses.
- [107:10]
Joe Rogan
No, he just said it in a way that wasn't logical. He said like you get the light into your body and what is he talking about? But no, they figured out how to get get LED lights into lungs to kill viruses.
- [107:22]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, specific thing to look is typing in Donald Trump Covid compilation video gives me a bunch of.
- [107:27]
Joe Rogan
Right. COVID death rate. Death rate is what's important. Death rate compilation versus the media. And see, the media was the one that were dunking on him for saying they were coming up with this ridiculously high rate that turned out to not be accurate at all.
- [107:44]
Dan Richards
Well, I think we have these, those people, those people, the leftists or whatever you want to call them, the Flint Dibbles of the fucking world. These guys are, they like we're talking about with climate change and everything else. They don't want to leave anything in there that could let the other side have anything. They assume that the average rank and Joe Rank and file, Joe Public is dumb as hell.
- [108:05]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [108:05]
Dan Richards
They, I mean, one of the things I'll always say about ancient apocalypse, complain about, they'll be like, well, he goes on there and he talks shit about archaeologists and everybody's going to believe everything he says because. Because it's so well made. It's like, man, I didn't do that at all. And, and in the first season he did talk a little about archaeologists. But the bottom, to me, what if I'm watching anything, I don't care what it is. If the person says, you know, the mainstream scientists disagree with me here, but here's what I have to say. All my alarm bells go off and that tells me I cannot hang my hat on what this motherfucker saying. I got to go Google it, right? That's what Graham does over and over again. Mainstream archaeologists disagree with me. So for them to say everybody in the country is just. Everybody in the world just going to believe this.
- [108:45]
Joe Rogan
So it's 3.4%. So this is it. So give me some volume here and.
- [108:49]
Dan Richards
A lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. I think the number is way under 1%.
- [108:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
So to fact check.
- [108:55]
Dan Richards
The World Health Organization says the coronavirus.
- [108:57]
Jimmy Corsetti
Death rate is 3.4%. President Trump lies that the World Health Organization is wrong. The number is 3.4%.
- [109:04]
Joe Rogan
3.4% is what it's being reported, my boy Sanjay.
- [109:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
The death rate, the percentage is 3.4%. And no hunch from the President can change that. Trump lied about the most recent World Health Organization estimate that the global death rate of coronavirus is 3.4%. Jesus. The 3.4% death rate was wrong. And WHO data later updated it to a fraction of 1%. Let's go back into history.
- [109:28]
Dan Richards
Trump has a hunch that the death.
- [109:29]
Joe Rogan
Rate is lower than 1%.
- [109:31]
Dan Richards
Way under 1%. Way under 1%. Will someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole?
- [109:36]
Jimmy Corsetti
Trump lied to viewers about the mortality.
- [109:37]
Dan Richards
Rate way under 1%.
- [109:39]
Joe Rogan
False information, spreading disinformation, misinformation, dangerous disinformation.
- [109:43]
Dan Richards
If you're president of the United States.
- [109:45]
Joe Rogan
You have the world's greatest scientists at your disposal.
- [109:47]
Jimmy Corsetti
You listen to them. Leading scientists, including Dr. Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that the death rate could be considerably less than 1%.
- [109:57]
Dan Richards
Way under 1%.
- [109:59]
Joe Rogan
See, this is. We've seen enough. These people are fucking puppets, man. They're puppets. And they willfully, gleefully repeat these narratives.
- [110:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- [110:10]
Joe Rogan
And instead of saying, well, where did you get that information? Who are you talking to? Let's find out if that's correct. Why does the World Health organization think it's 3.4%? Is there any nefarious intent behind this whole idea of it killing everybody? That's forcing some enormously profitable venture, like forcing everybody to take these fucking new vaccines you guys developed.
- [110:35]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [110:36]
Joe Rogan
Like, is that, could that be factored in maybe? Well, no, only you only hear that it's factored in once everybody's profited and got out. Including Bill Gates. Yeah, Bill Gates, who's on television telling everybody, get the vaccine. You won't get Covid. And then afterwards, ah, it didn't work. After he had unloaded all of his stock, he wasn't effective. And turns out Covid wasn't as bad as we thought it was. Well, you guys are really responsible for a bunch of people taking a medication that was unproven. You're responsible for all the side effects. You're responsible for all these. And you're responsible for fear mongering, lying, closing down businesses, ruining economies, changing the political structure of the country.
- [111:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
They need to be held to account. I'm not going to forget this. And a lot of other people want. People's lives were destroyed. And it is. I mean, there needs to be, there needs to be a reckoning.
- [111:25]
Joe Rogan
Elon recently said that he's still. His pronouns are still prosecute. Fauci.
- [111:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
I love it. I love it.
- [111:31]
Joe Rogan
And he has a real, real possibility of making an impact.
- [111:35]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh yes, he does.
- [111:36]
Joe Rogan
I mean, they listen to him.
- [111:37]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [111:38]
Dan Richards
When it comes to the, when it comes to the, the economic side of it, I honestly think if out of everything, if the jab notwithstanding, just strictly from a top down perspective, those guys.
- [111:50]
Joe Rogan
I mean, it's the most immense transfer of wealth in modern history.
- [111:54]
Dan Richards
Amazon, Walmart, ebay, all these cleaned house. And you know what shut down in Spokane. We lost White Elephant. This guy had started in the 40s after World War II. He would buy surplus and put it in this store. He had fishing lures for 30 cents. Transformers from the 80s. I was buying in 2000, selling them on ebay. Got all kinds of there and he went out of business because he had to close his doors. All everything, Everything.
- [112:14]
Joe Rogan
You California, you can't even go to.
- [112:17]
Dan Richards
Walmart at 2 in the morning like we did. Like everything's closed now at a certain time compared to where it was. Everything's changed.
- [112:23]
Joe Rogan
Well, that's important because the coronavirus doesn't stay up.
- [112:27]
Jimmy Corsetti
It doesn't stay up and it doesn't exist. When you walk to your table well and sit down.
- [112:31]
Dan Richards
All the homeless people need a place to hang out. And so Walmart parking lot at 2am that's when they show up.
- [112:36]
Joe Rogan
I meant that actually the opposite. The coronavirus comes out at night, but it doesn't even. Like the whole thing was so dumb because then they allowed Black Lives Matter protests. Like what about six foot distancing, Everybody's breathing, they're screaming and they're all yelling down the street. And you guys think that's not going to spread it, right?
- [112:51]
Dan Richards
And the brain dead stuff behind this symbolism. I talked about this a long time ago on my channel. The, the person that thought of, oh, we're going to have this band play let's get them masks that have a big hole in it to show solidarity with everybody audience, that person a idiot. It's like everybody's just going to look.
- [113:06]
Joe Rogan
At that and be like, how about people swimming?
- [113:08]
Dan Richards
So we don't need.
- [113:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh my God, it hurts me to see those clips. Covid was one of the biggest IQ tests in modern times.
- [113:17]
Joe Rogan
I feel it was really a compliance test. That's what it was.
- [113:20]
Dan Richards
It was a lot, a lot of complaints.
- [113:22]
Joe Rogan
And check to see how many cowards there are out there that even, even though they know something to be true, are terrified of the blowback. So they don't speak about it. And when you do speak about it, you do get attacked. You know, I obviously experienced that and I was fascinated by it. I mean it was kind of horrifying to watch, but also fascinating. Like, oh, so this is real. Like you guys are just completely all lock in step and all full of shit and you don't even care that I got better quick.
- [113:47]
Jimmy Corsetti
Brought to you by Pfizer.
- [113:48]
Dan Richards
Yeah, and you can watch how the world, you can see this from a world perspective too. Different, different communities all around the world reacted differently. I remember lots of people, oh, why can't we do like Korea and Japan? Almost everybody's wearing a mask over there and they do all this reporting and all this stuff. It's like, yeah, you ever Been there, man. You ever talked to any Koreans or Japanese people? Their fucking culture is lockstep compared to ours. They are very much. There's. There's no counterculture in those communities. That's counterculture. People are all in jail. You have one community. So, yeah, they're told to do this, they fucking do it.
- [114:18]
Joe Rogan
Well, obviously, we don't do that. Our media is so compromised. So obviously compromised. And, you know, Callie Means has a really good point about this. He was saying that the reason why they spend so much money advertising on cable news is not because it's effective. It's because once they do that, now cable news cannot criticize them.
- [114:39]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [114:40]
Joe Rogan
It's so much smarter because it's like, listen, we're spending all this money just to make sure that you guys toe the line. That's what they're doing. And so the news is not the news. It's only the news if an advertiser agrees that it's the news. And that's not good.
- [114:58]
Dan Richards
No, it's really bad.
- [114:59]
Joe Rogan
That's not good for anybody. Left wing, right wing. If you think that somehow or another money gives a fuck about your political persuasion, it's so stupid that it got attached to a political ideology. And from the most compliant of people, those are the ones who are the most willing to go along with the narrative. Because the consequences on the left of coloring outside the lines, they attack you so hard. They crush you so hard. Like this martyr maid situation or anything. Anything where you're stepping outside the line to talk about it. The like, what you experienced, just discussing something that turns out to be absolutely correct. They fund a big hit piece about you, which essentially acts as an advertisement for you, right? It just builds your channel.
- [115:39]
Jimmy Corsetti
The Streisand effect, right?
- [115:41]
Joe Rogan
Then people will go to your channel, go, this guy's great. This fucking show's awesome. Like, this is interesting information and just undeniable facts. The undeniable facts like, that no one can discuss, no one can debate in any way, shape or form the actual size of these stones, where they came from. This is not under debate. So just the undeniable stuff is unbelievably fascinating. And then when they go to your channel, they go, where's all the Nazi? I heard this guy was a Nazi. I'm looking for some Nazi. I'm just getting facts.
- [116:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
You know, we should go back to Gobekli Tepe Gang Padang and the Great Pyramid, because there's some more stuff involving archaeology and lack of excavations that are actually pretty significant. So going back to Gobekli Tepe, one of the photos that Jamie that you showed earlier was before excavations began. And do you notice that there was no trees there? So one of the controversies is that there's some 800 trees that were planted on the site a full decade after excavations began. And the trees are buried or were planted on top of ancient ruins which stand to not only destroy the ruins, but also highlights the, that they can't excavate what's underneath them while the trees are there. And so here's the before and after.
- [116:52]
Joe Rogan
So what, what's the conventional explanation for why they planted all these trees over a site that they know is filled with ruins underneath it?
- [117:00]
Jimmy Corsetti
So when this property, this was a property owned by farmers and the Turkish government wanted to purchase the land for them and the owners felt that they were being low balled. So what they did was they planted olive trees on top of the site in order to increase the value of the land. Which for me, when I first heard this, I'm like, I don't understand. This doesn't make sense to me. Gobekli Tepe has already priced this. It's the world's oldest and most mysterious ancient site on earth. It's priceless. Now, to be fair and Dan, you've harped on this and I really, I agree with you.
- [117:30]
Dan Richards
It's government stuff. If the feds are going to buy your land for a highway, they don't care what's underneath. They don't care if it's an Indian burial ground or what. It's, what's this land worth in this city, this kind of property? So they made it an orchard instead of a desert.
- [117:41]
Jimmy Corsetti
Now here's the thing though, of all things, they planted olive trees. And there's something that was enacted, it's called the olive law in turkey in the 1930s where it's illegal to cut down olive trees in Turkey. So I'm like, well that's interesting.
- [117:54]
Dan Richards
And let me ask you this real quick. Imagine now just imagine being the owner of that property and you've got this, you found these ruins here, you've got all these people coming out, they're paying you money to check shit out, you're selling all kinds of stuff and now the government's going to take it from you. You've had it for 10 fucking years. Now the government's saying it's theirs. So you go out and you start planting trees. So when you dig a hole to plant that tree, you find an artifact. Do you put that in the pile of artifacts to hand to Klaus Schmidt or do you put that in the pile to sell to the antique collect? That's not going to tell anybody. Obviously you put in. He's pissed off. I. My opinion is that guy sold a ton of fucking artifacts while that was going down that he just. Why wouldn't you.
- [118:30]
Joe Rogan
Now are there artifacts connected to Gobekli?
- [118:33]
Dan Richards
They find stuff.
- [118:34]
Joe Rogan
What kind of stuff?
- [118:35]
Dan Richards
No pottery or anything, but they have found like one of the biggest things is a bunch of chunks of stone. Like to archaeologists even they call a microchip which would be like a tiny little piece you get from. That's still technically an artifact. So there's a lot of that kind of stuff. There are a lot of bones that have been charred and things like that. But there's nothing too terribly amazing tools. Well, nothing too crazy but again that's the kind of stuff that would possibly. You know, I'm a lot. This where my skepticism can get a little cynical. You know, I'm of the opinion if the antikythera mechanism would have been identified as what it is when they pulled it out of the ocean, it would have never made it to a museum. That there was somebody. I was like telling Jim last night, we were having dinner. If the reports of giant bones that you see in the 1930s from guys that were over in New Mexico and then they're bringing them back to the Smithsonian, they just never made it there. If they really did find giant bones, which I'm skeptical of, but if they did, this is probably an advertisement to sell them while they're traveling these things across the country. You know, just happened to lose them along the way because this dude came over and bought them. This has been a problem since day one.
- [119:37]
Joe Rogan
Especially when you think about those kind of like one crazy old school Rockefeller type billionaires who really love to control information and everything thing. You know, if you have access to something that's just undeniably throws the whole timeline into a question or throws a narrative of human beings. No question.
- [119:55]
Dan Richards
Now you got some power with that little artifact, don't you? So that's. Yeah, you see that's. That's. I'm. I'm of the opinion that that's been a problem. Like I don't believe in the dendera light. I assume you know what The Dendera.
- [120:05]
Joe Rogan
Light you glossed over the anti. Crow.
- [120:08]
Dan Richards
Oh, how do you say it? The antikythera mechanism.
- [120:11]
Joe Rogan
That one is fast.
- [120:12]
Dan Richards
It's crazy because that is.
- [120:13]
Joe Rogan
How old is it?
- [120:14]
Dan Richards
Like 2,000 years old? 3,000.
- [120:16]
Joe Rogan
2,000 years old? It's a hand carved brass machine that you use to. It tracks the cycles of the moon, the Earth and different planets in our solar system.
- [120:28]
Jimmy Corsetti
Brilliant.
- [120:29]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [120:29]
Joe Rogan
And they didn't know what it was and they found it. It was like some corroded up gears and then they start doing some sort of a. I mean, I don't even know how they did it, how they understand all the different pieces of it because it's all corroded together. But they use some sort of scanning mechanism. Correct. To. And see if you can find what it actually looks like.
- [120:51]
Dan Richards
Yeah. You can buy replicas of it nowadays. They make little boxes of the dam.
- [120:54]
Joe Rogan
Look like when they found it, but now show what it looks like when they've done a scan of it. Stumbled across something interesting too.
- [121:01]
Jimmy Corsetti
And the guy found it.
- [121:02]
Joe Rogan
He heap of dead naked people. Whoa, whoa. Emerged from the sea, shaking, speaking in fear and mumbling about a heap of dead naked people. He was among a group of Greek divers from the eastern Mediterranean island of Simi who were searching for natural sponges. They had sheltered from a violent storm near the tawny island of. How do you say it again? Antikythera, between Crete and mainland Greece. When the storms subsided, they dived for sponges. Chanced upon a shipwreck full of Greek treasures. The most significant wreck of the ancient world to have been found up to that point. The dead naked people were marble sculptures scattered on the sea floor along with many other artifacts. Soon after, the discovery prompted the first major underwater archaeological dig in history. So see if you can find what this mechanism looks like, what it actually looks like.
- [121:49]
Dan Richards
There's a replica. Yeah.
- [121:50]
Joe Rogan
So this is the replica of this thing, this incredible piece of engineering from 2000 years ago, where all these gears and all these planets and you could figure out where everything was. How, how, how'd they do this? How'd they do this? And this is beyond what we ever thought was available.
- [122:11]
Dan Richards
No. There is a YouTube channel that a guy goes through. I forget his name, but he does go through. And he makes one of these with old school tools, but he's making each gear by hand. He's making the wire by hand.
- [122:22]
Joe Rogan
Boy, that guy's a dork.
- [122:23]
Dan Richards
He's a dork.
- [122:24]
Joe Rogan
Yes.
- [122:26]
Jimmy Corsetti
Bring him on the show.
- [122:27]
Joe Rogan
Greatest possible version of a dork. I mean, in a good way, but.
- [122:29]
Dan Richards
It is fun to watch.
- [122:30]
Joe Rogan
But it's incredible.
- [122:32]
Dan Richards
But at the end of the day, that's interesting to be able to recreate it. But the planning of the thing, that's.
- [122:38]
Joe Rogan
Really where the engineering, the mathematics and then you have to take into consideration what is this based on? What knowledge was available back then that we did not think was. So we're talking about 2,000 years ago. This is the time of Christ. We did not think that they had any kind of machine that were in any way similar to that thing. What else don't we know, right? What else is lost? How much of that stuff is gone? Like if this is 2,000 years ago and it's that corroded, what does 10,000 years do to it, right?
- [123:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh, it'd be dust at the bottom, right? And the fact they even found it at the bottom of the ocean is a miracle in itself.
- [123:13]
Joe Rogan
This is what's important to understand. And this is another lie that Flint Dibble told about the number of shipwrecks that have been fined. And not only that, but what would be left over after just a few thousand years. And that when they find these 1000 year old shipwrecks, they don't find any wood anymore, you just find the pottery. So you just know where the shipwreck is because there's a bunch of gold on the ground and some pots. But if you go back 10,000 years before that, how much has the surface of the floor of the ocean shifted? How much of that stuff has been covered up? How much is it? 10,000 years is so long now. What if it's 20,000? What if it's 30,000? To say we don't know is the correct thing. It's the correct thing to do. And that's what nobody wants to do.
- [124:01]
Dan Richards
There's a. There's a hypothesis. It's more of a. It's more of a. Like a mental. I forget the name of what you call it, like a mind teaser, like a way to make your brain think. It's called the Silurian Hypothesis. The Silurians are a doctor who monster that supposedly lived on Earth like millions of years before. Humans wake up one day and they find all these monkeys running around, they decide they don't like us. But the hypothesis is how would you determine if there was a species or an advanced civilization that lived on the earth a million years ago, 5 million years ago? As soon as we have fossil fuels, as long as we had our first bit of oil had been created on the planet, you could have a civilization like ours. So what would you look for? The only conclusion is maybe nuclear stuff. If they tested like maybe nuclear power plant, we might still be able to find some radioactive material. But beyond that, not a goddamn thing. After 10 million years, you're Gonna find a fucking bit of it. And that's what their conclusion is. And this is a scientific thing. This is something, a thought tool, that's what it's called. That's something that they use in science, in archaeology and history and stuff, presumably to look at that problem. But these guys like Flint obviously did do that. Like I said, he thinks people are stupid. He said right here on in, sitting in this room, that, oh, well, you know, it doesn't matter how long something's underwater. You might think that it matters how long something's underwater, but it really does. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
- [125:18]
Joe Rogan
Of course it does.
- [125:19]
Dan Richards
Fuck if anybody knows that.
- [125:20]
Joe Rogan
This is of course in terms of whether or not you're gonna find it, right? They haven't done like a comprehensive lidar scan of the bottom of the ocean floor. I just have not done that. That's not possible right now. But if they did do it, who fucking knows what they'd find down there.
- [125:34]
Jimmy Corsetti
Well, here's where things get nuts, is that here we are talking about things as far as tens of thousands of years. So we do have a site that Graham Hancock highlighted in season one of ancient apocalypse called Ganang Padang in Indonesia. And Jamie, I have a folder on this. So this pyramidal structure could potentially be 27,000 years old. It's hotly debated, but as Graham Hancock highlighted, there is a subterranean tunnel and chamber which may have those dates and it's not being excavated. And a geologist, Danny Nanavajawa, I never pronounce it correctly, forgive me, Danny, but he is a geologist that analyzed the ground penetrating radar and he said there's strong likelihood that it's man made. Now the skeptics, the academics will say, well, it's probably just a lava tube because the structure is volcanic in nature. But something interesting has happened that back in 2014, the Indonesian government said that they were willing to allocate unlimited resources and funding to excavate the site. Something shifted a handful of years ago where they're not excavating it now. And as of today, there's no plan in place to find out what that subterranean chamber is. So if it was indeed man made, we don't know. It could be natural, it could be man made, but we're never going to know what it is until we go digging.
- [126:53]
Joe Rogan
And right now what you know for sure is that people occupied the land above it after that.
- [126:57]
Jimmy Corsetti
100%. 100%, that is a man made structure. It was volcanic in nature, but they terraced it. It's A pyramidal like structure. It's not a pyramid.
- [127:08]
Joe Rogan
And we do have examples over and over again of truly ancient things, unexplainable things, where people built more crude versions above it.
- [127:16]
Dan Richards
All over the world, the lava tubes. There's all kinds of places in South America where they have a big pyramid built on top of a spring. The lava tube could have been a cave that was sacred, that they just kept embellishing and kept embellishing and kept embellishing saying it's just a lava tube, not a man made tunnel down there. As a non sequitur, anybody who knows anything about ancient history could understand how a sacred site could have a pyramid built on top of it.
- [127:39]
Joe Rogan
Let's take a bathroom break. Let's come back.
- [127:41]
Dan Richards
Awesome.
- [127:42]
Joe Rogan
Okay, so where were we?
- [127:43]
Jimmy Corsetti
We were about the lack of excavations at Gunung, Penang. And this should segue into something that's very, very interesting, which is the Great Pyramid of Giza. I've already said that Gobekli Tepe is arguably not just the oldest but the most mysterious ancient site on Earth because it's not supposed to exist. However, the Great Pyramid of Giza, I would say probably trumps it from the standpoint that it's just so mysterious. Its sophistication as well as the fact that we have no idea how it was constructed. And it's arguably the most debated structure in all of human history for two standpoints, one of which is that so many people debate on whether it was built to be a tomb for the pharaohs or whether it was some sort of lost technology and had some other purpose, whether it's energy or whatever it.
- [128:29]
Joe Rogan
May be, must have done stuff, which.
- [128:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
Is a fascinating topic. And I'll have a story involving me visiting it there with a certain person that really is. It's a story in itself. But let me say this. So back in eight years, back in 2016, through muon technology, they discovered that there's a hidden chamber in the Great Pyramid which is massive. Jamie, I have a folder on this Great Pyramid hidden void. And it was established in 2017 through a scientific study. So we're talking seven discovered eight years ago corroborated or eight years ago corroborated seven years ago in a study?
- [129:05]
Dan Richards
No Egyptologist debates it at all.
- [129:07]
Joe Rogan
Is that a rough interpretation of the shape?
- [129:09]
Dan Richards
Yes. They don't know the exact shape of it. They have an approximate size and an approximate shape.
- [129:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
So what now? Many theorize that it is a second so called Grand Gallery. It was originally thought to be 30 meters long. Now they have it at over 40 meters long, so almost 150ft and it is above the so called grand gallery. And so when they first discovered it, Zahi was came out of the woodwork and like denounced it and said this is nothing, you know. You know. And they said they're going to spend a few years debating with the international community on how to go about it. Brother, that was seven, eight years ago, almost rounding up to a decade. And as of today there is no plan of any kind to go and find out what's in there.
- [129:51]
Joe Rogan
So they would have to go through the walls to get to it?
- [129:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
No, actually the brother, they could just drill a 1 a half inch diameter hole and set a little tube camber through it and they could figure out what's in there by the end of the week.
- [130:02]
Dan Richards
Get an endoscope right there, just like when you go to the doctor.
- [130:05]
Jimmy Corsetti
And here's what's so important about this. Like we're talking about the most debated and arguably the most important structure in all of human history. Was it a tomb? Was it a lost technology? We have no idea how they even built it. That's the only thing that's more debated than that is how did the Egyptians construct the pyramid. So many theories have already been debunked on it. We just don't know how they did it.
- [130:24]
Joe Rogan
2,300,000 stones that were supposedly all put in place within 20 years.
- [130:29]
Dan Richards
Right, right, the 20 years part, I've referred to that as like the gateway drug to becoming a pyramidiate. It's, that's, that is that 20 years things. The stupidest thing. If any guy who's ever stacked bricks for five minutes knows that is absurd, but they just run with that because you know, you can't. That's one of the weird things. Their written record is more robust to them than the actual like science. Like the carbon dating for the pyramid and the written record are a couple hundred years off. All the entire fourth dynasty, the carbon dating is a couple hundred years off. They just come up with some explanation for it and stick to that written record.
- [131:03]
Joe Rogan
Well my favorite is when they look at the hieroglyphs that depict Pharaohs from 30,000 years ago and they're like, oh, that's all bullshit.
- [131:09]
Dan Richards
Yeah, but the one that a little further down this is, this is important shit here, but up there.
- [131:14]
Joe Rogan
Well why do you think that the 30,000 year mark is bullshit, but the 5,000 year mark is legit? Like that is really weird guys. Like why are you conveniently ignoring all this other stuff while validating the more.
- [131:27]
Jimmy Corsetti
Recent stuff because it contradicts the textbooks they already wrote.
- [131:29]
Joe Rogan
Contradicts, yeah, Educators.
- [131:31]
Dan Richards
That dynamic. Sorry, really quick, that dynamic. You mentioned Christopher Dunn when he saw one of my recent videos about two months ago. Me and him are going to start. He's going to come on my channel and each artifact that he's covered, we're going to discuss one at a time. He knows I don't believe in ancient high technology. And he told me basically to summarize. What he said is that he is tired of having either yes men or cynics. He wants somebody that doesn't agree with him to sit down and have a conversation about these things. Things. And that'll be honest. And we can actually get somewhere. And it was like. It was like the guy had been waiting 40 years for me. And I had a GED and I worked as an electrician, but I don't fuck. I should not be the one sitting in the chair next to the man. But all the people qualified to do it want to treat him like he's an idiot.
- [132:12]
Joe Rogan
Right. And his theory is very fascinating. It was some sort of a power plant generated hydrogen. And it's feasible.
- [132:19]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's. It's wild. And I gotta tell you, when you walk through the Great Pyramid, there's nothing about it that resembles anything like a tomb. It seems like it was some sort of industrial function that had a. Or a function of some kind. So here's a story and I have his permission to share it. So I had the. You know, the only thing more wild than, than the topic of the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations is the diverse nature of people that are into this topic. So I had the pleasure of connecting with Georges St. Pierre the Goat, the great legendary UFC fighter. And because of him is how I went with him to Baalbek. He had unique connections and I was able to go with him. And we had connected. And then I went with him from there to Egypt and we went inside the Great Pyramid. It was his first time in there. And we basically tipped the. We tipped the guard. I'll just say it. And we had the king's chamber alone to ourselves for a few minutes. And we were with Yusuf Awian, who's the son of late Akeem Abdullah Awian, who was the mentor of John Anthony west. And he was in the Pyramid code. And so George Laden, the so called sarcophagus and Yusuf did the om. I can't do it. But you do it with your throat. And he does it inside the box and it makes the whole Granite box vibrate. I've experienced. It's wild. It feels. It's the reverberation off the. Off the stone. So he did that to George, laid in it, and he did it for about a minute. And this is. So George comes out of the box. Box. His eyes were wide open, and he said, yeah, there he is. He said, I'm coming out of retirement. I'm going to win the title. And he just started pacing around the room. So fast forward three, four hours later, I've been in the hotel pool with him.
- [134:03]
Joe Rogan
What year was this?
- [134:05]
Jimmy Corsetti
Just last year, September of 2023. And just to clarify, at that time, he was considering doing a grappling match. That's not what he was talking about. He was talking about winning the UFC world title again. So fast forward a few hours later, I'm at the hotel, the Mena House Marriott Hotel pool with the pyramids overlooking us. And I'm like, hey, George, you said you were thinking about coming out of retirement. And he's like, I'm gonna. I love his accent. No, Jimmy, I'm not coming out to retirement. And I said, well, what made you say that? He's like, he thought about it. He's like, it's just how I felt. So, just to clarify, arguably the Goat, although him and Jon Jones, they're comparable, just different, but the Goat. And his first inclination out of coming out of the box with his eyes wide open was like, I'm coming out of retirement. I'm going to win the title. And I asked him and he's like, no, I'm not going to do it. It's just how I felt in the moment. And I'm like, when people talk about it in the context of it being some sort of energy device, some people have speculated that with all these legends of humans living to hundreds and even thousands of years, some people have proposed that maybe it was a DNA restoration. I have no idea what it was. I just don't think it was a tomb. I think it was something else. I think it was a functional structure of some kind. But the fact that someone like him, with his history and his accomplishments, the fact that that was the first thing that he felt coming out of that box after doing the reverberation is a story. Like, I don't know what to make of it.
- [135:36]
Joe Rogan
I think that's normal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a guy like that has always got it in the back of his head.
- [135:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's a good point.
- [135:43]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I mean, that's the highlights of his life when he Was conquering everyone in the welterweight division. He was the greatest fighter on the planet Earth. It's the highlight of his life. So anytime he gets an elevated feeling, I'm sure that's one of the reasons why, like, a lot of old fighters, they drink a lot or they do drugs. And I think they're trying to. They experience highs that most people could never imagine.
- [136:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right.
- [136:08]
Joe Rogan
And I think whenever they experience a new high, some new thing, they get in their head, I'm making a fucking comeback. And they want. They want to chase that dragon.
- [136:16]
Dan Richards
They get in the ring with Jake Paul. Sorry.
- [136:20]
Joe Rogan
Had more to do with money.
- [136:21]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [136:21]
Joe Rogan
But it's just this thing that just is in every one of those people. People.
- [136:26]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, that makes sense. Although the fact that he's laying inside the great Pyramid and you would almost think that'd be the furthest thing from his mind at the time.
- [136:35]
Joe Rogan
It's an elevated experience. That's it. Right. So it's an elevated experience. It makes him very excited. And when a guy like that, it's very excited. He thinks about the most exciting thing he's ever done. He's like, I'm gonna go do it again.
- [136:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
We got to get you in that box. We got to get you in the Gary Pyramid.
- [136:48]
Joe Rogan
I'd like to go in the box. I'd like to go there. I really would. It's just a matter of carving out the time, and I really have to do it. Especially, let's see what happens with the world.
- [136:58]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [136:59]
Joe Rogan
The world just keeps getting sketchier and sketchier in certain parts of the world.
- [137:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right.
- [137:02]
Dan Richards
You know, sadly.
- [137:03]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, sadly. But it'd be nice to be able.
- [137:05]
Jimmy Corsetti
To visit, going back to the point of the. This hidden chamber.
- [137:09]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
- [137:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
Like, what is.
- [137:10]
Joe Rogan
So why would you not want to explore that?
- [137:12]
Jimmy Corsetti
It makes no feasible sense. Like, let's just say that. Well, first of all, whether it was a tomb or something else we could find out by going in there. Maybe there's another. Maybe there's a pharaoh in there. Maybe we would instantly know that. Okay, all this conjecture and debate is now been put aside. We know that sarcophagus, there could be treasure.
- [137:31]
Dan Richards
They stashed the dude for real.
- [137:32]
Jimmy Corsetti
And here's something else. A lot of conjecture as far as a lost technology. Could there be some sort of evidence of a tooling on how they constructed it? Could there be evidence on how it was constructed itself? Even if it's a completely empty room and nothing else, we still would have learned something new. In fact, I've joked to other people that, like, hey, they could turn this into a pay per view event. I bet you 100 million people around.
- [137:53]
Dan Richards
The world I was just thinking.
- [137:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, I know. But even if there's nothing in it, even if there's nothing in it, still win because we will learn something new. And it is, of course the academics will say, well, we don't want to damage the pyramid anymore. I'm like, okay, I respect that. But the thing is already a wreck. They use tons of dynamite to blast their way it. The casing stones are all blown off.
- [138:14]
Dan Richards
They drill holes in it on the regular to check things. It's not.
- [138:17]
Jimmy Corsetti
I don't under. So between Gobekli Tepe not being fully excavated, Gang Padang, as well as the Great Pyramid, arguably the three oldest and most mysterious ancient sites on Earth, for some reason are not being appropriately excavated.
- [138:29]
Joe Rogan
Isn't there a chamber underneath the Sphinx as well?
- [138:32]
Dan Richards
Well, there's ton of Lee. Yeah, there's. There's something there, but they're not. It's. It's smaller. It's smaller. And Zahi Hawass stuck his nose down in the tiny little chicken chamber that's down there. They say that there's supposed to be something more there, but, like, that's dicey. As far as what they know for sure.
- [138:48]
Jimmy Corsetti
They have never released any photos or video or of any kind underneath this thing. So it's like, okay, just stick a camera in there with a flashlight and show us that there's nothing in there. Like they're.
- [138:56]
Joe Rogan
Or just show us what is in there.
- [138:58]
Dan Richards
It shows the walls.
- [138:59]
Jimmy Corsetti
They say. They say there's nothing in there. I'm like, okay, well, show me what nothing looks like.
- [139:03]
Joe Rogan
Right?
- [139:04]
Jimmy Corsetti
So, like, I'm just. Look, I'm an outsider in this and I have an inquisitive mindset.
- [139:09]
Joe Rogan
You're not. You're a human being on planet Earth and you're a part of history.
- [139:12]
Jimmy Corsetti
And you know what? Every single person alive has an inherent right to know the true history of our origins. And I don't care what country you're born in, because people have come after me like you. It is none of your business what's happening at Gobekli Tepe. You're not a Turkish citizen. And I say, excuse me, it is a. They elected for it to become a World Heritage Site. So they have thrown that out the window. It is everyone's.
- [139:34]
Joe Rogan
It's everyone's business.
- [139:35]
Jimmy Corsetti
It surely is.
- [139:36]
Dan Richards
That's silly. Yeah, that's a silly article.
- [139:38]
Joe Rogan
It doesn't make any sense. It's the history.
- [139:39]
Dan Richards
You don't have any place to weigh in on Nazi Germany because you don't live in Germany.
- [139:43]
Joe Rogan
It's the people of Earth. It's like we have a very fractured understanding of the history of the people on Earth. Gobekli Tepe is an excellent piece of evidence that points to that. We don't really understand why they did it or who did it. And there's probably more of those things out there that we missed. The Sahara desert is the greatest example. If they did some sort of very comprehensive examination of the Sahara desert, Like, say, if technology advances to the point where they can do, like, some really comprehensive, like, underground scanning of that entire part of the continent. Who fucking knows, man?
- [140:18]
Jimmy Corsetti
Only 5% of the Sahara has been studied as far as, like, say, with the use of lidar technology. They're using it from space, and they keep finding new structures that are prehistoric. They don't know who made them or when. And the. Throughout the.
- [140:31]
Joe Rogan
From space? Yeah, it's called lidar from space.
- [140:33]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's called archeology from space. And they use satellite. Satellites. So this is what's interesting, is that they can use satellites with lidar that can penetrate. Like, I might be butchering this, but I want to say 10 meters, I could be off on that. But it's. It's a substantial amount of depth from a satellite penetrating through dirt. I'm like, who would have thought that could even exist?
- [140:52]
Joe Rogan
Right?
- [140:52]
Dan Richards
It's pretty amazing.
- [140:53]
Jimmy Corsetti
It is.
- [140:53]
Joe Rogan
We have good evidence that they didn't have that.
- [140:55]
Dan Richards
No, they probably didn't.
- [140:57]
Joe Rogan
Satellites, I mean, I guess their orbit would decay.
- [140:59]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [141:00]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [141:01]
Jimmy Corsetti
It'd fly back into.
- [141:01]
Dan Richards
Yeah. Because ours do you know, a couple things about ganang padang worth mentioning. When they were excavating like mad, the president was of the opinion, the same opinion that Dr. Danny Nadi Wajawa is that like, he. Nadi Wajawa wrote a book even like, Plato was right. And it's like Atlantis is in Indonesia. So the president of the. Of Java back then believed that that was the case, and he had. So he was throwing money at it. When he lost his bid to be reelected and somebody else took over, he was the one that shut everything down. He's in more lockstep with the archaeologists and stuff, the mainstream guys. So that's one of the reasons it was a changing of the guard, is why all of it just stopped. So one guy was into it and the next guy ain't.
- [141:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
Well, let me. Okay, here we go. You just open up the window.
- [141:49]
Dan Richards
Yep, there it is.
- [141:49]
Jimmy Corsetti
Here we go, Jimmy. So the WF Conspiracy. It is nothing more than a conspiracy theory. I am not at all convinced that there's something here with them trying to suppress ancient history. Let me be clear. But there is a correlation between what's going on at Gobekli Tepe and Ganang Penang. That the minister. So this is a government position. The Minister of Technology, Education, Research and Technology. Something along those lines in Indonesia. This gentleman came into power, I believe, in 2018. His name is Nakim or something. Nakaram. I have a slide of him in my Gunung Padang thing. He's a global shaper within the World Economic Forum and he is the head decision maker of excavations. That would or would not happen. This gentleman at Geung Padang. Now, let me be clear. I'm not saying he's suppressing it all. I. And I'm not saying that the WEF is trying to suppress our ancient history. All I'm sharing here is that it just so happens that the gentleman that's in charge of decision making. Making. Let me be clear. I said it earlier. They went from saying that there will be unlimited resources and funding to excavate Gunung Penang. It stopped. And as of right now, there's no plan in place to do it. And I'm just sharing that the person who would make that decision or has the power to do so happens to be a global shaper. And Klaus Schwab, the former head of the World Economic Forum. I have a video of him gloating about how they've infiltrated government cabinets. The media all over the world and are enacting their initial. Young global leaders will change the cabinets. It's very good.
- [143:18]
Dan Richards
You can.
- [143:18]
Jimmy Corsetti
Easy, Buzz.
- [143:19]
Joe Rogan
Did you see the photo of him in the bathroom?
- [143:22]
Jimmy Corsetti
No, I would love.
- [143:23]
Joe Rogan
No, please show us a photo of him in our bathroom here with the crazy Darth Vader outfit on.
- [143:27]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was. That was bizarre.
- [143:31]
Joe Rogan
Wackiest outfit ever. If you're, you know, so on the nose.
- [143:35]
Jimmy Corsetti
I know.
- [143:35]
Joe Rogan
You're an evil super villain.
- [143:37]
Jimmy Corsetti
He looks like a Bon Vin. A Bond. James Bond villain.
- [143:40]
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
- [143:40]
Jimmy Corsetti
More.
- [143:40]
Joe Rogan
More crazy than that. Like more crazy than a Bond. See if you can find that photo more crazy than a Bond villain. Like a Star wars villain. Yeah, like some.
- [143:48]
Jimmy Corsetti
He's a Sith Lord or something.
- [143:49]
Joe Rogan
You have to be a crazy person to put that thing on and go out in public. Unless it's a Halloween costume.
- [143:53]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [143:54]
Joe Rogan
Like it's a bizarre outfit for you to wear. And if everyone's worried about these secret societies and people that are in control and pulling the strings in the world. What. What are they worried about? They're worried about crack pots that dress like this. That's what they're worried about. Eyes Wide Shut parties. Like that kind of. Get that photo.
- [144:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
Crazy.
- [144:16]
Joe Rogan
That photo right there. That's the one we have.
- [144:18]
Dan Richards
Christ. Yeah.
- [144:19]
Joe Rogan
In front of the podium at the World Economic Forum.
- [144:21]
Dan Richards
Wow.
- [144:21]
Joe Rogan
What is that photo? What is that outfit you're wearing, sir?
- [144:24]
Dan Richards
That looks like something from some, like, 1970s dystopian film.
- [144:28]
Joe Rogan
That's 100. Like Metropolis or something.
- [144:31]
Dan Richards
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Death Race 2000, the original one.
- [144:34]
Joe Rogan
Like, what the is that? That's so. That outfit's so crazy.
- [144:38]
Dan Richards
Wow.
- [144:38]
Joe Rogan
Imagine someone. I think it was having to do with the event they were at, though.
- [144:41]
Jimmy Corsetti
Oh, he got an honorary doctorate. This is at a university somewhere in Europe.
- [144:46]
Joe Rogan
Crazy that that's what you wear there. Anyway. Like, what are you doing? You're dressing like a druid.
- [144:50]
Dan Richards
Well, they even got a magic card of him. Look at that.
- [144:52]
Joe Rogan
It's so weird.
- [144:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
So again, look at another outfit.
- [144:56]
Joe Rogan
Look at that.
- [144:57]
Jimmy Corsetti
That's.
- [144:57]
Dan Richards
Oh.
- [144:58]
Joe Rogan
AI generated. Okay, okay.
- [145:00]
Jimmy Corsetti
So when I look at Gobekli Tepe involving my little WF conspiracy idea, it is a bit bizarre that that partnership with the Dogeous group was literally announced at the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos. And I also should share this, that I may have been banned from Turkey. So this is. This is hilarious. So after my video came out. What's his name? Karul. What's his name? Dr. Krul. So the head of archaeology in Turkey took great issue with my conspiracy theories on it. And he was quoted in an article saying that I should be sanctioned. And then he followed up with, like, I will be sanctioned. And I'm like, well, how are you going to keep me out of Gobekli Tepe? Have I been banned from Turkey? Because American citizens don't need a visa to go into Turkey unless they're going to be there more than 90 days. So there's. If I could. I could apply ahead of time. Like in Egypt, you can apply for your tourism visa ahead of time. And I know if I was rejected. Rejected. He. That's what he said, is that I'll be sanctioned. He was referring to me. And I'm like, okay, what does that mean? Well, it means travel bans.
- [146:04]
Dan Richards
You're not gonna let him in the country?
- [146:06]
Jimmy Corsetti
It means I go to the airport to get rejected at customs.
- [146:08]
Joe Rogan
Potentially. That is possibly what would happen.
- [146:11]
Jimmy Corsetti
He said, it will happen. I don't know that it's happened. Well, that flights to Turkey are actually a little bit pricey. And I'm like, well, damn it. I'm like, if I'm gonna land there and get turned around, that would suck.
- [146:21]
Joe Rogan
Well, you might be able to make a nice video video about it.
- [146:23]
Dan Richards
That's true.
- [146:23]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. Oh yeah, that would be actually. Yeah, right. That, that's a video.
- [146:27]
Joe Rogan
Sure. I mean, I mean, kind of like helps you.
- [146:29]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right. I'm over the target with Gobekli Tepe.
- [146:32]
Joe Rogan
Or at least you're making them uncomfortable. Right. You're forcing them to consider why they have chosen this if it's just for economic reasons, which does make sense. If so many people are already going there, why should we spend more money? I get that.
- [146:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
Well, and it makes sense and it's the most likely explanation. It's probably true. But that means that then this is an issue of either mismanagement or incompetence. Because they. It is inexcusable that. Because as of right now, their plan is that it will not be fully. Fully excavated. It will not be fully excavated in any of our lifetimes. And there could potentially be answers involving our ancient past at Gobekli Tepe. And it is entirely inexcusable that we wouldn't dig it up. And I don't actually think it will take away from tourism by removing the mystery. People are. Half a million people a year are visit it just because. And if they've digged up more of it, in my opinion that's more reason to go there.
- [147:26]
Joe Rogan
Right. Well, what did you just show Jamie? I went to the article about the funding at.
- [147:31]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yes, it does say that thing about unlimited funding, but things. It might have been also misinterpreted by translation because it's coming from the Jakarta Post. It talks about how the soldiers were.
- [147:44]
Joe Rogan
Using hose to excavate. They didn't like that.
- [147:49]
Jimmy Corsetti
It mentions the first disbursement of 250.
- [147:51]
Joe Rogan
Grand was put out.
- [147:52]
Jimmy Corsetti
Is this from 2014? This article? It's the same article because it shows.
- [147:55]
Joe Rogan
The thing that says unlimited amount of research funding, but it says it was.
- [147:59]
Jimmy Corsetti
Taken from other funding and then it says that there's a lack of funding right below it.
- [148:05]
Dan Richards
Archaeologists at other sites bemoan a lack of funding.
- [148:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
Let me just say this, my ass. All they gotta do is drill a hole and stick a camera through it into the tube to figure out if it's a lava tube or something. Man, this is not expensive. It could get done for thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars. And if it is a 27,000 year old pyramidal structure, as Graham Hancock has proposed the data, look, the data, it's not proven, it's hotly debated. But let me just make this crystal clear. We don't know what it is. It could potentially be the oldest ancient ruin on earth and we're never going to know the answer until we go looking. And it is entirely unacceptable that we're not doing it. What is happening?
- [148:45]
Dan Richards
There's a thing like less conspiratorial, but support it from a very real position. There's a thing with science, with their paradigms. They've looked at it from a very long time with the origins of earth sciences and history. They were expected to bear out the Bible. Prove the Bible right. Then evolution and then Darwin and then it was gradualism. Prove the Bible wrong. There is no major global flood. And gradualism. They assume that everything happens slowly. There's nothing catastrophic in the record. And that lasted from the late 1700s, all the 1800s, excuse me, all the fucking way up until 1980 when the KT dinosaur killing meteor was accepted. Before that there was no such thing as punctuated equilibrium, which is what they call it now, where, which any kid could figure out is the way the fucking world works. The slow erosion happens on the side of the bank, but sometimes there's a big flood that carves a big chunk of the. I mean this is no brainer. The life moves at a steady pace normally, and then every now and again something catastrophic happens. So my point is, is that if they think that digging something up is going to change a paradigm that they're expected to maintain, they're not going to fucking dig it up. This the kind of opposition that they face to overturning paradigms like the Clovis first thing, like when Flint was on here and he tried to play that one down, not only were careers ruined from that, but one thing you'll almost never hear mentioned was Clovis first was version two of this. Before that it was the Folsom Point and Folsom first. And many careers were ruined by people that posited that the Americans were people before the Folsom culture. Then they found the Clovis. This is, this isn't some. That it's not some novel time of. Well, you know, there was a scientific debate and a few. No, no, no. This is standard operating procedure the way it's always been done. So it's not a surprising thing that they're going to try to hide stuff. It's not a surprise.
- [150:36]
Joe Rogan
It's just human ego and control. It's. Humans always want to be the experts. And they always want to be the one in control of the information. If the information that's new that's coming out counters their control and their expertise, they reject it. It's just ego. That's just ego.
- [150:53]
Dan Richards
It's just kind of messed up because, I mean, I know scientists are people.
- [150:56]
Joe Rogan
But it should all be what we know now. This is what we know now. And when new information comes along. Okay, now. Now we're thinking about it in a different way. But the problem is they've published books, and these books, they've definitively given dates. We now know. We are sure that this. What are your thoughts on the dating of the pyramids and how do they date the pyramids? They date the pyramids based on whatever carbon that they could find in between the stones. Obviously, you can't carbon date stones themselves, so you have to use some sort of organic material that's around that.
- [151:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
The best dating is that the Great Pyramid is somewhere around 4,500 years ago. That was from organic material taken between casing stones. You could argue that the casing stones were restored because they. Even the Romans restored parts of the Sphinx. Right. I don't know how old the Great Pyramid is, but if it was constructed 4,500 years ago, then our understanding of what was happening on the Giza plateau at that time is vastly different than. And the people that were. If you look at any academic textbook, they show people wearing loincloths and barefoot constructing the pyramid and. Nah, that's. Nah.
- [152:05]
Joe Rogan
Well, even hieroglyphs that depict moving statues, it's a bunch of guys with sandals pulling a sled.
- [152:11]
Jimmy Corsetti
So that depiction, which should be in my Ramesseum folder, Jamie, that one Statue was only 58 metric tons, only compared.
- [152:23]
Dan Richards
To the other big boys.
- [152:25]
Joe Rogan
It's so crazy.
- [152:26]
Jimmy Corsetti
This is what they say. They say, well, they pulled it on a sledge, which is like a wooden sled. And I'm like, the ramesseum statue is 15 times heavier than that other one. Yeah, this is what they always show. They always show these naked dudes. Yeah, look at them bare ass.
- [152:41]
Joe Rogan
Heave ho. So just to be clear.
- [152:44]
Jimmy Corsetti
I know, because they want to show them that they're dumb and primitive.
- [152:46]
Joe Rogan
And that dude with the whip, he's got some clothes on.
- [152:49]
Dan Richards
Look at that.
- [152:50]
Joe Rogan
That guy's got clothes on. But that's kind of been debunked, right? Because one of the things they found is that when they studied the remains that were in the enclosures where the people that worked on the pyramid lived, they're not slaves.
- [153:02]
Dan Richards
No. They were fed well.
- [153:03]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they're fed well. And it seems like they were highly skilled.
- [153:06]
Dan Richards
They had clearly had to have been. I mean I've tried to suss to me what's the most impressive thing about it is the accuracy of the pyramid to itself. It's like a perfect square with like 2 inches of deviation at 756ft per side. That's like tiny fraction of a percentage off. You're like machine age standards on a gigantic scale.
- [153:25]
Joe Rogan
Right.
- [153:26]
Dan Richards
The only thing I could come up with was and I have to test it but like if you had a concave mirror, it creates a little circle of light like a magnifying glass does. It will start a fire at a certain distance. It's going to be the same size no matter what. So you could calibrate that and if you have to have everything exactly set up. But if you shot at a target and filled up a perfect circle, you could know it was exact range. That kind of thing would work because you can't measure this with ropes. You can't measure the. I mean ropes sag and they are affected by humidity and stuff. And again it's 2 inches at 756ft. That's not. That's not.
- [154:01]
Joe Rogan
You're not that this taking into account the casings that were removed.
- [154:05]
Dan Richards
Oh no, it's not. This is the. Just the base perimeter of the pyramid. That's the. There's an outline around the pyramid where it was kind of scratched into the ground for where they would. They think that they used water and stuff to do leveling. And they generally measure around that to my understanding.
- [154:22]
Joe Rogan
And any deviation even in millimeters with each rock. As you get up to 2,300,000 stones to build the peak of the pyramid, any deviation on either side would fuck the whole thing up.
- [154:33]
Dan Richards
Oh man.
- [154:34]
Jimmy Corsetti
It is virtually perfect. Not quite perfect, but it is virtually perfect.
- [154:38]
Joe Rogan
Well, it's made by humans. Allegedly or Anunnaki. Anunnaki 1 is the most fun because I love those stories. I love Sitchin stuff. It's just because it's. The funnest possibility is that human beings were genetically engineered by a superior race that came here to mine gold.
- [154:59]
Dan Richards
I was telling Jim actually last night that archaeologists frequently refer to the Clovis hypothesis as elegant. And I often tell them that this is actually Chris Hitchens stuff is even more elegant. It explains why we want gold and silver that's all around the entire world.
- [155:13]
Joe Rogan
The gold one's the weird one because you can't make Any tools out of it. You can't make weapons out of it. And yet it was the most prized metal.
- [155:19]
Dan Richards
And it works really good for me. When you get to a higher level of tech, all of a sudden it's pretty useful, isn't it?
- [155:23]
Joe Rogan
It's very useful. And then there's also the idea of suspending particles in the atmosphere like Chris talks about. Right. Which is what Bill Gates wants to do today. That fucking kook. Hey, fuck face, there's a lot of people living here. You don't get to choose when the shades get put on the Earth because you have this goofy climate change narrative. I don't believe you.
- [155:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right.
- [155:42]
Joe Rogan
I don't like that you're even talking about doing this. How about a global vote as whether or not this One created Windows 95 gets to do this?
- [155:51]
Jimmy Corsetti
He didn't create anything. He bought the patent off that IBM guy. I love putting that on blast because it's like. I think he has. I think he suffers from an inferiority complex. I think that he's jealous of Elon Musk and other. I think he.
- [156:04]
Joe Rogan
His time in the line shorted Tesla.
- [156:07]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. And he makes him look like a massive douche. I think that he is. Look, he was once the king, the richest man on Earth and now he's not. And I think that that's all he wants.
- [156:16]
Joe Rogan
I think, again, power, human power and ego. And especially people that have enormous resources and control over things, they don't want to relinquish that grip. Yep.
- [156:24]
Dan Richards
Well, yeah.
- [156:25]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's like, bro, he should be living in an all inclusive, riding jet skis. You made it, brother. You're rich.
- [156:28]
Joe Rogan
You should be living like Jeff Bezos. Bezos, right.
- [156:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [156:33]
Joe Rogan
Let's go. Yeah.
- [156:33]
Dan Richards
At least be happy.
- [156:35]
Joe Rogan
That's what I want out of my billionaires. I want Jeff Bezos. When people criticize him, I'm like, what are you talking about? He's living the dream. All of a sudden he's jacked. He has a super high hot girlfriend. He's got a giant yacht. Yeah.
- [156:45]
Dan Richards
Flying in the space Captain Kurt.
- [156:47]
Joe Rogan
Come on, Dick rocket.
- [156:48]
Jimmy Corsetti
I can't figure out why he runs the Washington Post. Because he owns the Washington Post.
- [156:53]
Joe Rogan
Change the shit out of it, has he? Yeah. There's a big to do about it because he released this article that we have to. Or released a story, rather. He wrote a piece essentially saying that you have to take divergent viewpoints. You have to take a bunch of different perspectives. We can't just be this left wing echo chamber and it's the Reason why the business is faltering. I mean, all of these. I was just reading something about CNN's ratings and MSNBC's rating post election. They've crashed. All these left wing kooks on YouTube are hemorrhaging subscribers. Where people go, you guys are out of touch. You're not accurate, you're delusional. And people are speaking with their subscriptions and they're speaking with their purchasing of the Washington Post and they're purchasing the New York Times. The New York Times just debunked, in the most insane way debunked RFK Jr's assertion that the ingredients in Froot Loops are different in Canada than they are in the United States. They fact checked it while saying he was accurate. So their fact check, it's so dumb when you see the fact. I tweeted it. The fact checked is so dumb because the fact check says it's not correct. They have the same ingredients except for these harmful chemicals.
- [158:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
What the.
- [158:15]
Dan Richards
Look at this.
- [158:15]
Joe Rogan
Mr. Kennedy has singled out Froot Loops as an example of a product with too many artificial ingredients, questioning why the Canadian version has fewer than the US version. But he was wrong. The ingredient list is roughly the same, although Canada's has natural colorings made from blueberries and carrots, while the US product contains red dye 40, yellow 5 and blue 1, as well as butylated hydroxy to lean or BHT. A lab made chemical that is used for freshness according to the ingredient label. That is the fucking dangerous chemicals that are banned in Canada that we're trying to get rid of in America and that of rfk. So they're literally saying he was wrong, but he was right.
- [158:59]
Dan Richards
Yeah, that made me. That made my brain hurt just reading.
- [159:02]
Joe Rogan
New York fucking Times.
- [159:05]
Dan Richards
PewDiePie hadn't dressed like a Nazi for a while, so I didn't have anything to talk about. Right.
- [159:09]
Joe Rogan
I don't know what that's about, but this is what the New York Times is doing. So of course you're going to hemorrhage subscribers. Of course you're crazy. You're saying something that's nuts. And also, what is your motivation? Like what's your motivation for removing potentially harmful and toxic chemicals if someone is trying to do that for the greater health of the population? If we're saying that these things have been eliminated in other countries because. Because they've been proven to be dangerous, what is your motivation for saying he was wrong? Money. Well, what else could it be? Ideology. Ideology. You know, left wing rejection of RFK Jr because now he's connected to Trump, which is connected to Nazis. It's like you go down this fucking weird rabbit hole with these people and you're like, what are you trying to do? Are you trying to remove all leftover credibility? Are you trying to eliminate. Because you lost so much credibility, Are you trying to kill it all? Are you secretly working for the Chinese? Like, what are you doing?
- [160:16]
Jimmy Corsetti
They're all in.
- [160:17]
Joe Rogan
What are you doing?
- [160:17]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's probably backed by Monsanto or something. Because if you look at like crazy state it's.
- [160:23]
Dan Richards
To think that the media was once called the fourth estate in this country is mind boggling. Honestly, to think that we used to consider them the fourth estate of government. That it was like this, our father's generation, that's what they considered Ted Koppel, man. Fucking.
- [160:37]
Joe Rogan
Well, what I'm hoping is that what Jeff Bezos has said about the Washington Post, and I know what CNN is considering doing, and they've made some sort of a trend towards a more objective form of journalism, but they're still compromised by the sponsors, they're still compromised by the advertisers. They're so compromised that I don't know if they can ever get to where they really need to be to compete with actual objective, real journalists that are independent, because I don't think they can. So it's kind of crazy. It's like they're digging their own grave every day and then they're lashing out at all the other people that aren't digging their own grave.
- [161:14]
Dan Richards
It's like, you guys are insane.
- [161:16]
Joe Rogan
So crazy.
- [161:17]
Jimmy Corsetti
They're doing it to themselves. And now it's like, what is it? Citizen journalist? How did Elon Musk put it? It's like, you are now the journalist or I'm misquoting him.
- [161:25]
Joe Rogan
But X is mainstream media media now. That is the mainstream media. That's where most people are getting their news now.
- [161:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
The views speak for itself. You know, it's not just the views.
- [161:33]
Joe Rogan
It'S the community notes. The fact that you can actually fact check these things. And then you have all these brilliant people that are participating in this live debate in real time online about what's real and what's not.
- [161:45]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [161:46]
Joe Rogan
And you're finding all specifically with the, like the, when they found the Twitter files, like, Jesus Christ. The FBI is involved in this? Like, what, what the is going on?
- [161:56]
Dan Richards
Yeah, it's. This is so crazy.
- [161:58]
Joe Rogan
The FBI is involved in deciding what's real and what's not on Twitter.
- [162:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Unreal.
- [162:03]
Joe Rogan
And you're, you're, you're Banning journalists. You're, you're banning scientists. Like, this is really crazy.
- [162:10]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. And it's bad for society, but, you know, it's caused irreparable harm with misinformation.
- [162:15]
Joe Rogan
But it's not. So it's bad initially, but then ultimately it's good because ultimately we learn who you can and can't trust. You say, well, who's just honest and accurate? Because there's a lot of money in being honest and accurate.
- [162:28]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [162:29]
Joe Rogan
You know, this is what's crazy. Like, all these independent journalists are doing really well. Well, because they don't have a fucking giant building in Atlanta that's filled with a thousand workers. Right, Right. So they don't have the overhead for terrible ratings. Terrible ratings and a massive overhead. Like, you're kind of fucked.
- [162:44]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [162:44]
Joe Rogan
So it's great for us, us that it leads to the rise of these guys like Matt Taibbi that used to be a part of the system and now are independent. Glenn Greenwald, all these type of people, Michael Shellenberger, people that you can actually trust. They're going to tell you the truth because there's actually money in telling the truth. Yep, it's a great business model.
- [163:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's course corrected and you're proof of it. And all these other people, you know, whether it's Tucker Carlson and many, many.
- [163:07]
Joe Rogan
Others like, yep, there is a course, correct direction. And the, the problem is they're. They've dug their heels in so much and they'll write articles like that New York Times article that is so crazy.
- [163:20]
Jimmy Corsetti
They updated it.
- [163:21]
Joe Rogan
Oh, congratulations.
- [163:22]
Jimmy Corsetti
They changed the word wording a little bit.
- [163:24]
Joe Rogan
Here's the.
- [163:24]
Jimmy Corsetti
Here's what it looked like.
- [163:27]
Joe Rogan
They changed it. They got busted because it got like 10 million views on X in a day.
- [163:33]
Dan Richards
Got blasted.
- [163:34]
Joe Rogan
It got blasted everywhere.
- [163:35]
Dan Richards
Well, that's why things insane.
- [163:38]
Joe Rogan
So this is what they said here. Why do we have fruitless in this country that have 18 or 19 ingredients? You go to Canada as two or three. Mr. Kennedy asked. He was wrong on the ingredient count. They are roughly the same.
- [163:47]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, that's what they changed.
- [163:49]
Joe Rogan
But they're still. They're still missing the whole point. So the ingredient count is roughly the same. So there's still 19 ingredients in the Canadian version, but it's all just like sugar and wheat and like carrot dye and blueberry dye and whatever the fuck else they have.
- [164:07]
Dan Richards
They found a factual error that they could pull out. Instead of addressing the meat of what he was saying.
- [164:11]
Joe Rogan
The meat of what he's saying is that all these things, these dyes are all illegal in Canada and also illegal in other countries.
- [164:19]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's poison. Cereal is one of the worst things you can consume, but it's so delicious.
- [164:24]
Joe Rogan
But I wonder if it's just as delicious in Canada, which is crazy. Like, I don't need it to be flavored or colored by dye when you can get it from beets or whatever.
- [164:34]
Dan Richards
Yeah, the dye thing's crazy. The red dye 40 is actually kind of a big problem. There's a lot of kids that have, like, add kind of symptoms from red dye 40.
- [164:44]
Joe Rogan
Well, I mean, if you're left alone to your own devices near a child, like I was, you just pour bowl after bowl of that cereal until you're, like, ready to explode.
- [164:53]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [164:54]
Joe Rogan
You know, I would eat Captain Crunch until I had a heart attack.
- [164:59]
Jimmy Corsetti
Lucky Charms eating just the marshmallows.
- [165:01]
Dan Richards
Oh, yeah.
- [165:02]
Joe Rogan
This is. Where's the marshmallows?
- [165:04]
Dan Richards
The Saturday morning cartoons.
- [165:06]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [165:06]
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God. Yeah. You're getting cracked out to Bullwinkle.
- [165:09]
Dan Richards
Oh, yeah.
- [165:09]
Joe Rogan
And you're just eating bowls that sugar high.
- [165:12]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [165:12]
Joe Rogan
I mean, we didn't even know that sugar was bad for you. Because again, another conspiracy that turned out to be true. The scientists got bribed by the sugar industry to push all the blame. Cholesterol, saturated fat. That's why everybody started using margarine and all this stupid.
- [165:27]
Dan Richards
It's like, I'll eat some plastic.
- [165:29]
Jimmy Corsetti
I love those.
- [165:30]
Joe Rogan
You know, if you leave margarine out, rats don't even eat it.
- [165:33]
Jimmy Corsetti
I was about to say that. You'll see ants that will be eating natural butter, but they won't touch margarine.
- [165:37]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they don't. They eat each other. They don't. With margarine. Like what?
- [165:40]
Jimmy Corsetti
Something to be said for that.
- [165:41]
Joe Rogan
It's glue.
- [165:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's chemical.
- [165:43]
Joe Rogan
It's industrial oil.
- [165:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah.
- [165:45]
Joe Rogan
It's, like, really weird. It used to be used for engine lubricant. Like, whoa, Feels great on toast. It's just. We're so stupid. We're so stupid.
- [165:55]
Dan Richards
It's wild when you think about it, the things that we will do. Like the Milgram experiment. I've mentioned before, the experiment they did back after the. Everybody was wondering here in the States why the Nazis were able to convince rank and file normal people to do up stuff. So they got guys in a lab coat and they had an actor pretend he was getting shocked as a test subject, but the real test subject was the guy they had, quote, unquote, shocking. That guy.
- [166:19]
Joe Rogan
Right.
- [166:19]
Dan Richards
The guy in the lab coat. It keep telling him to do it more. And they found about 30% of the people, if they were told, would shock them all the way up to killing guy.
- [166:25]
Joe Rogan
Yep.
- [166:26]
Dan Richards
And that, that kind of appeal to authority, the kind of. That kind of worshiping of authority has really. They're gutting it right now and they're paying the price.
- [166:35]
Joe Rogan
Well, it's just dangerous because authority has a massive responsibility to be accurate. And with that comes humility and the understanding that we don't know everything. It's not possible, which is why we're constantly studying things. And this. This need to be accurate and need to be correct and need to be the only one who has access to this information to educate people is preposterous. It's really crazy, especially when it comes to something like ancient history, which is why your channel is so popular and your channel and Graham Hancock shows are so popular, and why these people that want to hold on to that throne are so adamant about labeling them with every possible horrible pejorative.
- [167:16]
Dan Richards
Yeah, well, yeah, that's a really easy way to get them out. Like I said, they're losing authority right now. Like, we're talking about. We're talking about mainstream media or legacy media, I guess you could call it falling apart and stuff. What I mentioned about PewDiePie earlier, if you remember about 10 years ago, the adpocalypse, that was. I think it was actually a Wall Street Journal article, but it was a legacy media that wrote about PewDiePie and they, like, threw him under the bus. They, like, misconstrued him and everything else. And the effects were very real. It slapped YouTube content creators across the board. If you look up ad pocalypse, you'll. You can read all about it.
- [167:48]
Joe Rogan
Well, they had. They've actually dropped some of the bands on X now, which is great. Yeah. Which is, I think, a sign of the culture shifting. Also, after the election, there's a lot realizing that there's. There's actually a lot of money in advertising there. Like, what do you retarded, Right? Everybody's there. It's the number one platform on earth for people discussing things.
- [168:08]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's the future.
- [168:08]
Joe Rogan
Why wouldn't you advertise there? Because you're trying to. You're trying to bleed that guy out, but you with the wrong dude. It's crazy. He's got more money than anybody, and he's like, I don't care. I'm barely. He bought it for twice what it's worth. And they're like, Twitter has lost $20 billion in value. He's a terrible businessman. No, he overpaid he overpaid substantially to try to save free speech.
- [168:30]
Dan Richards
Yeah. This was not. This was what you would call an activist investment.
- [168:34]
Joe Rogan
Well, he's just a rare cat who's willing to do something like that. There's not a lot of people that are willing to, like, lose billions on some, but when you got 200 billion, you're like, let's shift this apple cart.
- [168:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
I'm so glad he's on the right side of history. That guy's a hero. He's a living hero. And X is the fe that is going to be the biggest platform on earth. That's his goal. Right? It's.
- [168:53]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, well, it certainly already is and probably will grow. And you know, they keep saying people are going to Blue Sky. Do you know if you go to Blue sky and you type, there's only two genders, you're banned instantly.
- [169:02]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yes. I saw this recently.
- [169:04]
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Blue sky is just the newest echo chamber of the old Twitter king. Dorks.
- [169:10]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- [169:10]
Joe Rogan
They're going to go over there and let their brains rot out in an echo chamber.
- [169:13]
Dan Richards
I've been picking on all of my friends in the real world that were laughing at. I forget the name of the site that Rumble, when everybody was like, all the right wingers are going to rumble. Ha ha ha, ha ha. Now it's like. And all you guys are running the Blue Sky. Ha ha ha ha ha. Isn't it fucking funny how that works?
- [169:29]
Joe Rogan
Shout out to rumble chamber.
- [169:31]
Jimmy Corsetti
Rumble has been so good to me. Let me give Chris Pavlovsky a shout out. The CEO of Rumble. I had the pleasure of meeting him and they've been treating me real good.
- [169:39]
Joe Rogan
Rumble's great.
- [169:40]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah, they're fantastic.
- [169:41]
Joe Rogan
Full on free speech, whether you're on the left or the right, whatever it is.
- [169:44]
Jimmy Corsetti
Anything I want, anything I want within, as long as it's not violence or something like that.
- [169:49]
Joe Rogan
Of course.
- [169:49]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. So I recommend people, everything that's legal.
- [169:51]
Joe Rogan
Which is what it's supposed to be, and that's what the First Amendment is supposed to apply to. And this is one of the great things about this administration that's coming in is that Donald Trump wants to apply the First Amendment to all these sites. He wants to stop all this big tech banning, which, by the way, was terrible for him in 2020. I mean, it really. It's election interference. It truly is, because you're eliminating one complete side of the argument. It's supposed to be one side thinks this, the other side thinks that they get together and discuss it, and you, as the person outside of it, gets to see who makes a more compelling argument. And the wonderful thing about Community Notes is you get to see whether or not someone's bullshitting.
- [170:33]
Jimmy Corsetti
Right?
- [170:34]
Joe Rogan
So let's find out what's right and what's wrong, what's true, what's not. Let's. That's what it's supposed to be. But the problem with that is, then you don't really have control of the election. And that's what they found out in 2024. They don't have control of it anymore. And you can get Beyonce and pay her $10 million. It doesn't fucking work. It doesn't work anymore. No one cares. No one believes them. They don't trust them. They make terrible life choices. And you're like, well, clearly you're not a person I'm going to listen to when it comes to who's going to run the fucking world. Taylor Swift, right?
- [171:02]
Dan Richards
Shut the fuck up.
- [171:03]
Joe Rogan
This is crazy. Eminem. What are you talking about? How much have you locked? I mean, I wanted to sit Eminem down with, like, a political scholar and, like, tell me what you know about the invasion of Ukraine. What do you know about the coup in 2014? What do you know about NATO moving weapons closer and closer? What do you know about the violation of the treaty that we have? What the are you doing, man? You shouldn't be doing this. This is not the thing for you to be doing here.
- [171:26]
Jimmy Corsetti
These people have no idea what they're talking about. They're all puppets. They're all. They're people that don't do any research on their own, and they're just told what to think or they're compromised.
- [171:34]
Joe Rogan
Well, I think they were getting paid. And I think that's what's even weirder, is that you're allowed to pay people to endorse you for president, which is crazy.
- [171:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yeah. Oprah. Two and a half million. Not a million, they thought. Now it's two and a half million.
- [171:46]
Joe Rogan
I sent that to Jamie, but that seems to be, like, production costs would seem at least slightly elevated for an event, but the weird one was, like, the Beyonce one, if it's true. And, you know, there's a lot of sites reporting it as it is true, but we tried to look, Jamie, look, it's hard to find what's true and what's not true because there's a lot of money that was paid to staff, but it's, like, unclear what that means. And then there's. It's unclear where they burned all the money. And then there's also the Money that went to these activist groups. And we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars they paid to people to support this administration, which is kind of supposed to be the other way around. Aren't these groups supposed to be paying money to prop up the campaign because the campaign believes in them? No, you're paying these activist groups to support you, which is just crazy. Also, it didn't work.
- [172:39]
Jimmy Corsetti
It didn't work at all.
- [172:40]
Joe Rogan
You went through a billion plus dollars in three months. This is so crazy. And you're in debt, I think.
- [172:47]
Jimmy Corsetti
And I think a lot of people made some money in the process. That money went somewhere. Where is it now?
- [172:51]
Joe Rogan
Part of the problem with climate change, that's part of the problem with everything, is that it's profitable to spit out a narrative and that there's a lot of money being moved around. And this is money in politics. And as much as we can get that out, we need to. And I think one of the most important things about getting that out is this whole thing about pharmaceutical drug companies being able to advertise, which changed in the 1990s. We have to recognize that before the 1990s, pharmaceutical drugs could not advertise on TV. And guess what? We were taking way less and we were way healthier. So this is not good, folks. This is not good. You know, and other than Ozempic, which is like, at least curbing obesity to a certain extent, what. What are these drugs are doing good? Like, what. If you look at the overall health of people, it's declining. Obesity is rising, heart attacks are rising, strokes are, oh, this is bad. We're not moving in the right direction. And yet there's a tremendous resistance for change.
- [173:53]
Dan Richards
But it's funny to me that they would spend so much money on this election when, I mean, it's kind of. They. It's kind of clear that when one person's platform is do this, this, this, this, and this, the other person's platform is not him. It fucking. I mean, that's like, you know, that's like a riding somebody else's coattails deliberately. You, You. She's. She came in with the platform. I'm just gonna, you know, I'm not Trump, so. Okay, well, that's great. But I mean, once people have pierced through the veil of Trump's gonna make everything illegal and put everybody that's not wide into camps and shit. Once they've got past that, what do you have?
- [174:27]
Joe Rogan
Well, it's also. If you're gonna develop, like a real platform, like a real. You're gonna Run for president. I would think you would want to do that over a long period of time and be very careful about, treat it like a defense attorney. Like if you were prosecuting this as a case, you would wanna have all of your facts that show that you're correct and have all of your arguments. And you would wanna have mock arguments if someone comes to you and says, well, what about this, this and this? That's not the case. And this is why that's not the case. And you would wanna have all your ducks in a row. To me, it's like a fighter that takes a last minute fight and they've been sitting around drinking beer and they haven't gone through a 10 week camp, like, don't do it, don't do it. You're not ready for this. And if your only strategy is just like a wild punch, which is basically, he's a liar. Like, meanwhile you're lying about him every day. The Russia collusion shit, the very fine people shit, the fucking all the thing about, you know, the thing about taking Liz Cheney and executing her, that's all lies. You guys are just lying and you're saying he's a liar, but yet you're lying all the time. And you're doing it like it's 1995 and there's no social media. But you can't do that anymore. Especially when the people that are paying attention to the podcast, well, guess what? Podcasts are a hundred times bigger than anything you guys have. And people are listening to that and they know you're full of shit. And then your numbers decline even further.
- [175:54]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yep.
- [175:54]
Joe Rogan
So I think they were saying that cnn, what are the, what's. How much is CNN down? Because I was seeing this on Twitter and it's hard to know whether or not they're, you know, it's hyperbole or whether or not it's fact. But they were saying that CNN's ratings are down like 80% of their peak and MSNBC is some other preposterous number and they're both on the chopping block. CNN is talking about mass layoffs of talent because nobody believes them anymore. So you, it's counterproductive for you to use the same voices, which is why they, they got rid of Brian Stelton and they brought him back, which was so odd.
- [176:27]
Jimmy Corsetti
I'm like, you know, I'm, I'm looking.
- [176:28]
Joe Rogan
Forward to talent is miss. They. I mean, they don't have any talent.
- [176:33]
Jimmy Corsetti
They're all going out of business. They're gonna have to rebrand. They're gonna have to get entire new management. Like, I'll never watch those programs ever again. Those networks. Literally never. Like they're dead to me now.
- [176:41]
Joe Rogan
It's propaganda. It's. At least a percentage of it is propaganda. That's unacceptable. It's unacceptable if you're the voice of the news in the world. It's unacceptable. Yeah. For you to have a large percentage of what you're saying to be completely full of shit.
- [176:54]
Dan Richards
You know, it's funny, you can see these, the same pattern of attack that they throw at Trump being used against Tulsi Gabbard the last time around when she fucking nailed Kamala in the, in the debate. And she was just like you, you can stay here and say all cops are bad, but you got hundreds of thousands of people in jail and prison.
- [177:10]
Joe Rogan
Leftist viewers deal. NBC, cnn. A Trump slump, ratings crash. Here's why. So what's the numbers? Was it said, does it say the Rachel Mano show, for example?
- [177:21]
Dan Richards
Easily.
- [177:21]
Joe Rogan
MSNBC, NBC's top rated program, though it only airs once a week, draw drew just 1.3 million viewers on November 10, five days after the election, a drop of 1 million viewers from the month before. 40 in the key 25 to 54 demographic the advertisers most covet. Matto's numbers mark the smallest audience since her show has seen. Her show has seen since April of 2022. And she's the number one show, which is like, you know, if I only got a million million people watch her show, I'd be so pissed. Hannity nearly quadrupled her with 420,000 views to her meager 109,000. She got 109,000 people in the 25 to 54. Yeah, so it's a bunch of old cat ladies.
- [178:03]
Jimmy Corsetti
And airports.
- [178:04]
Joe Rogan
And airports right outside of Maddow, MSNBC has seen an unprecedented plunge. This is a really bad news. And what is that? For example, on Tuesday, November 11, a week after the elections, MSNBC attracted its lowest 25 to 54 demo ratings in 23 years. Over on CNN, the demo number was the lowest it has been since June 27, 2000, when Bill Clinton was president. For the Overall week of November 6th through 13th, Fox News averaged 2.23 billion views, while MSNBC attracted a paltry 550,000 and CNN just 399,000. Think about how much money is being pumped into CNN. So go scroll back up a little bit. In fact, Fox News saw its viewership jump by 38% overall since November 5 after dominating election night by topping all Networks drawing more than 10 million viewers. It's so bad that MSNBC's Joe Scarborough and Mika, how do you say, her name Crawled to Mar A Lago on Friday to kiss Trump's ring, Drawing scorn for their utterance. Utter shamelessness after years of on air attacks.
- [179:13]
Jimmy Corsetti
You know, real quick, let me just, you know what they're not including is that on Rumble, Dan Bungino and Steven Crowder had the number one and number two ratings on all of election night. So they're not, they're just mentioning mainstream networks. They're, they're leaving out the fact that.
- [179:28]
Joe Rogan
What did Dan Bongino have?
- [179:29]
Jimmy Corsetti
He had over half a million real time viewers live. And same with Steven Crowder. They were very comparable. They were the number one and number two platforms in the world. Really?
- [179:39]
Dan Richards
Yes.
- [179:39]
Joe Rogan
So what did CNN have at that night?
- [179:42]
Jimmy Corsetti
I can't, I'm not entirely sure. But it was way less. It was way less. Oh yeah, that can't be. Look it up. I would agree that online they probably had the highest. But to compare the world, watching CNN and Fox News and MSNBC that night was less than 500,000. Is maybe, maybe it's online streaming I'm referring to.
- [179:59]
Joe Rogan
It must be because didn't just say Fox News had the highest ratings. There were 5.5 million.
- [180:04]
Jimmy Corsetti
Anything to do with online that's even saying like the 25 to 54 year olds call just be people. They're like, why would I turn on TV? I was watch online.
- [180:10]
Joe Rogan
So they dominated it online. Okay, okay. So either way, this is what happened after 2016 as well. You know, like whenever or after 2020 rather, once he's out of office, you can't complain about Trump anymore. Your ratings crash. Like your entire, your entire business is operated on fear.
- [180:27]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's like, oh, the Orange man and hatred. I mean, let's be real. There's a lot of people just tune in just to get angry.
- [180:33]
Joe Rogan
Opportunity Joy Reed just to laugh. I like to get blazed. Watch that lady. Like what the are you saying? Like what she's talking about? Like she spent an entire part of her program comparing Trump to Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini in msnbc. Compared the rally in Madison Square Garden to the Nazi rally from the 1930s. Oh, oh, well, they were all in the city. You know, I performed Madison Square Garden, so that must make me a Nazi as well.
- [181:00]
Dan Richards
You know, obviously I was telling jokes.
- [181:03]
Jimmy Corsetti
And you just had a guy on your show talking about the swastika. On five continents around the world 10,000.
- [181:07]
Joe Rogan
Years ago, Graham Hancock, Nazi stuff defended the martyr made guy. Let me just say this, that's more Nazi.
- [181:13]
Jimmy Corsetti
I encourage everyone to go watch. Everyone go watch Ancient Apocalypse. Graham Netflix, think for yourself. But one last thing to mention about that is that even John Hoops had compared Ancient Apocalypse. He associated it with Sandy Hook. Yeah, I am not. And this was what a week ago? Two weeks ago.
- [181:30]
Dan Richards
Yeah.
- [181:31]
Jimmy Corsetti
Disgusting.
- [181:31]
Dan Richards
He, he's talking about the archeology is a canary in the coal mine. And you can tell that because you see this horrible thing happened before 9, 11 and therefore they're connected and Sandy Hook happened before right around the same time as the 2012 thing. Ergo it's just like dude, I, I, you know Alex Jones could give you some advice here buddy. You're gonna get sued. Shut your mouth about sand hook, man. Come on.
- [181:54]
Joe Rogan
The same thing that they do. It's the same thing the flint devil did. You know, connecting it to white supremacy. Atlantis, Dwight. Oh, Atlantis. It's really a fun. We're out three hours plus in. But I would feel like we cheated the world about the reshot structure.
- [182:10]
Jimmy Corsetti
Let's do it.
- [182:11]
Joe Rogan
I love your video. And I saw, I don't understand Randall's reluctance to accept this as a possibility. It's very fascinating because there's so many details and your video that details the Richard structure, which is an incredibly strange structure. If it's not man made and if it wasn't at one point in time, it's some sort of a structure that was made by human beings.
- [182:41]
Jimmy Corsetti
It doesn't need to be. So this is one of the things that Randall says, well it's a natural feature so it can't be Atlantis. I'm like, well who built it? They said it was the God Poseidon. Well, was Poseidon an actual individual? Because if you look at the ancient Greek translation Poseidon, it's lord of the earth. Which I think is a modern day translation for mother nature. And humans have built on natural geological features throughout history. If you were to bring up the rishat structure from space, it's like no other place on earth. It is a mysterious site. The consensus is that it's volcanic in nature and is a collapse volcanic dome. But it doesn't match anything else anywhere else on earth. As far as volcanic domes go, it matches more than a dozen similarities of the most, let me say this, the most consequential similarities. What Plato had described as a lost ancient city of Atlantis and it's made up of concentric circles. If it had water, it specifically matches three of water and two of land. It's made up of red, black, white color stones. There's an abundance of gold in Mauritania, Elephants which were described as being on Atlantis. You won't find gold or elephants in the Azores, like Randall promotes. It also has an opening at the south which matches the description of Atlantis. There's mountains to the north which just so happen to be called the Atlas Mountains, which are in modern day Morocco. Well, Atlas, which is a very unique name, was said to be the very first king of Atlantis, which also happens to be the very first. The name of the very first king in Mauritania, which is where the Richat structure is located.
- [184:07]
Joe Rogan
It's also covered in salt.
- [184:09]
Jimmy Corsetti
Yes, the water was there and oh, and here's another similarity, is that Atlantis was said on those mountains that were said to be to the north, which are again happen to be named the Atlas Mountains. Well, there was a river that was said to be flowing from those mountains. And there's a scientific study that say that Tam and Riset river flowed at the exact time of Atlantis, 11,600 years ago, either right through the Richard structure or directly north of it. And those are just a handful of similarities. It is by far the most likely location of the lost ancient city of Atlantis. Nothing can be concluded either way, but it is something that should not be ignored.
- [184:45]
Joe Rogan
Well, it's certainly really fascinating. It is just the fact that there's these concentric rings that match the description of Atlantis and it's in the same spot and it's in the. It's. The mountains are in the same spot, the opening is in the same spot. I mean, look at that. Whatever that is is really weird. And if you would imagine a like Atlantis and the way it was described, that seems a very likely spot for it.
- [185:10]
Jimmy Corsetti
And let me tell you something else. A lot of people say, well, it's not an island, so it couldn't possibly be Atlantis. But what they leave out is the fact that the ancient Greek word for island was nessos and Nassau, which had five meanings, one of which was island, the other was promontory, peninsula, as well as land within a continent surrounded by lakes, rivers or springs, which matches the Rishat structure. So it's like, you know, a lot of people. And let me also say this because a lot of people and I think all areas should be studied. I'm not debunking the Azores, however, the fact that it's in the Sahara Desert and that the Egyptians are the ones that came up with the tale of Atlantis, that's where it originates from which Surprises a lot of people. Well, Egypt's in the Sahara and so is the rishat structure. And at the time of Atlantis, the Sahara was green. It had one of the largest networks of rivers ever known to exist, as well as the largest freshwater lake. And so if they were, if the Egyptians were colonists of a destroyer civilization, it's not unreasonable to say that it was in the Sahara. And let me say something else. If Atlantis was described as being busy all day and all night and was a trading post, does it make sense it'd be in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean? Or is it far more feasible that it would be in the Sahara Desert, which wasn't a desert at the time? Because if it was said to be busy all day and all night with languages spoken from all over, well then where are all these people coming from in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean to go visit it? It makes far more sense that it would be in that portion in that region of the world.
- [186:39]
Joe Rogan
How much work has been done excavating?
- [186:41]
Jimmy Corsetti
None.
- [186:42]
Dan Richards
Zero. Almost nothing. Yes, it is.
- [186:45]
Jimmy Corsetti
There's gold in the Mauritanian desert and they don't want anyone touching it.
- [186:48]
Dan Richards
It's a dangerous place to go.
- [186:49]
Jimmy Corsetti
It's very inhospitable. It's 250 miles inland and it is. I know people that have gone out there and it is a dangerous, inhospitable place. There's no water. It is, it's hard to get to. You could have all the money in the world, you can still die out there.
- [187:04]
Dan Richards
Yeah, it's. It's not just hard to get to, but not just inhospitable. The. It's kind of war torn, kind of fucked up kind of the kind of place where you're not gonna have to worry about somebody playing a tourist trick on you. They're just gonna take your shit, so.
- [187:17]
Joe Rogan
Right, right.
- [187:18]
Dan Richards
Yeah, there's a lot, a lot of, it's a lot of reasons that people aren't going there. But it's really interesting even to me, where I'm a lot more skeptical. So I do believe in a lost civilization and I think that, I think it's really interesting to find so many of those same things in the same area. It's just uncanny. Like Jim says, when it's just a stone's throw away from Egypt, really it would make sense that they would have that package, a big chunk of those things so accurately recorded. And to find it right there, definitely. This is one of the things I harp about on my channel all the time. We need more honest skeptics this is definitely the kind of thing we need real scientists to go out there and do. We don't need guys to knee jerk and say well you attach it to Atlantis so that noise, it can't be. We don't need guys to say it's definitely Atlantis but there's nothing to see here. We need boots on the ground.
- [188:08]
Joe Rogan
How the fuck could Atlantis, if it really is in Africa be connected to white supremacy?
- [188:13]
Dan Richards
Let me touch on this one really quick Joe, if I can, if I can hit this really fast.
- [188:17]
Joe Rogan
It's so stupid.
- [188:18]
Jimmy Corsetti
The Africans are black.
- [188:19]
Joe Rogan
Hello, I'm saying the Atlantic black supremacy.
- [188:23]
Jimmy Corsetti
This is what John Anthony west said on your show. He said, he's like, not only did Atlantis exist but they were black African supremacy.
- [188:31]
Dan Richards
They did it there. The way that these guys attach the white supremacy thing is they go back to guys from the 1800s that wrote about Atlantis that had some old school views on race. Now they believed in the biblical races and the way that the biblical races came to be something you'll never find John Hoops or Flint Dibble tell you because it guts their entire argument. Before the flood there was one race of humans. After the flood Noah gets drunk, three of his sons are around. One of them picks on him, laughs at him. Two other ones don't. The one that picked on him was Ham. He had the African people were considered to be the Hamites, the Sam, the Semitic people were the in the middle. And then the other one, the Jaffa fights which eventually became the Aryans were considered to be the white people. That was the European view of race for up until about 150 years ago. So 200 years ago a guy writing about Atlantis would not have thought it was an Aryan Atlantis because Aryans didn't exist until after Noah. It was one of Noah's sons. So before the flood there was no Aryans. So anytime somebody says that this old school ship believes in, all you do is scratch the surface and you'll find that's not the case at all. This guy didn't believe in a white Atlantis. Ignatius D. Finally did not believe in a wide Atlantis despite Flint Dibble making sure to name drop that anytime he gets a chance. But they were going to make sure you think that they're going to eliminate because the biblical races are something most people don't know much about.
- [189:56]
Jimmy Corsetti
Listen, let me just say this one point. I don't care what their color of their skin was, but the legend comes from Egypt and they're brown. So get go get with your racist argument. I don't care. Like, anyway, I don't get John.
- [190:09]
Joe Rogan
Gentlemen, thank you very much. It's been a lot of fun.
- [190:11]
Dan Richards
Joe.
- [190:12]
Joe Rogan
Really, really been fun. Jimmy, always great to see you.
- [190:14]
Jimmy Corsetti
Good to see you.
- [190:14]
Joe Rogan
Very nice to meet you.
- [190:15]
Dan Richards
Nice to meet you, too.
- [190:16]
Joe Rogan
Thank you for your channel. Both of you guys, fantastic D dunking, bright insight, awesome channels.
- [190:21]
Jimmy Corsetti
Follow me on X Rumble and Instagram. Love you all.
- [190:25]
Dan Richards
I'm going to be at the Cosmic Summit speaking this summer if you guys want to catch me there.
- [190:29]
Joe Rogan
Beautiful.
- [190:29]
Dan Richards
Cosmic Summit.
- [190:30]
Joe Rogan
Yeah, beautiful.
- [190:30]
Jimmy Corsetti
Thanks again, Joe.
- [190:31]
Joe Rogan
Thanks, everybody.
- [190:32]
Jimmy Corsetti
Bye now.
- [190:35]
Joe Rogan
Sa.