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Joe Rogan
Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience Train my day.
Rich Vos
Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Joe Rogan
Let's go. How are you, fella? Good to see you, dude. You're dripping with diamonds, sir. What's going on? The road's been good to you. Look at you.
Rich Vos
I'm just so empty inside. This, this fills the hole for like, like it's like, you know, you go by, you're like, oh. And then you get home, you go, I hate my life. I hate my insides. And no spirituality. But I get to look at my just emptiness on, you know.
Joe Rogan
Drinking with rapper Diamonds.
Rich Vos
I've ran out of. I've ran out of to buy. So like there's nothing.
Joe Rogan
What kind of car are you driving?
Rich Vos
Alexis is 350.
Joe Rogan
Oh, those are fun.
Rich Vos
It's nice.
Joe Rogan
That's a good car. Bulletproof. Never, never going to break.
Rich Vos
And it's so fast and it's, you know, it's. But this is how it. Okay, so the two. Okay, I had the Lexus 350. Right, right, whatever. I went and I had it for seven months maybe. I went in to get it serviced and I was kind of depressed so I bought a different car. I said, I go, this is not, this is up. So I bought the IS 350. I had the other car for seven months. I go, you know what, that one looks cool. So I bought that and then I went in to get it that service and it was the exact same car a year later. But I like the newer color, the newer gray, that gray, that whatever weird gray.
Joe Rogan
Slate gray.
Rich Vos
Yeah, it's like it looks good. I said, you know what, give me this car.
Joe Rogan
So you keep swapping them out. Yeah, they must love you.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I'm such a mooch. I. On one one year of my wife's birthday, I bought myself a new car on her birthday. But happy birthday. We could drive around in this.
Joe Rogan
Oh my God. That probably played off well.
Rich Vos
I buy her cars. I just so, you know, so now I get bored easy. I get bored easy and it's because of, you know, in life, in life really. Like I see some of my friends doing arenas, doing this, doing that. But I have enough. I really have enough. But it's not enough, you know what I'm saying? Does that make sense?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I.
Rich Vos
One I think for my. Not for my personal life, my personal life. I got three fucking great daughters, three grandkids, another one on the way. My seven year old's gonna go to college, has pick of all kinds of schools. You Know good schools. I fucking. In 11th grade, I raised my hand to go to the bathroom and I never came back. I just walked out like I'm a fucking idiot. You know, my past and my kids all grew up, okay. The old one married a black guy, but he's light skinned anyhow, the prettiest baby on the planet. So I have enough. But when it comes to career as a comic and you know, there's one more thing, just one more thing, you know what I'm saying?
Joe Rogan
I do know what you're saying.
Rich Vos
I don't know. I don't know what it is. You know, I've had specials. Not Netflix, but it's always, it's like I'm always doing the other club, right? You know, I'm always, and I'm very blessed and, and I love what I've achieved in this business. But it seems like it's always like, okay, I got a special on Amazon now. But it's not, it wasn't. Amazon didn't buy it. We placed it on. You know what I'm saying? So it's always, there's always one little thing. When every pilot my wife and I have had together, I've had gets this close to getting picked up, you know, like, I've heard some of the nos. I've heard they almost sounded like yeses. They were such good nos. I walked out and go, that was the best no today. That fucking no almost felt like a yes. So in this business, do you think.
Joe Rogan
You put something in your mind to make all these things kind of fall short? Have you ever thought of that?
Rich Vos
Well, that's what my wife says.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Do you ever thought that, like, maybe the way you interface with the world is like your expectations are tempered, like in a way where you almost want to fail because it's more comforting that it happened again rather than this new thing of success which is going to force you to really focus and work harder to get more success. And it's a lot of pressure. And then you think about all the times you fucked up before and you don't want to hear, you don't want to hear no again, you don't want to hear it, but you feel like it's coming and you almost make it come.
Rich Vos
Well, I get that in life. Growing up, from my childhood through drug addiction, I became comfortable being uncomfortable. That was my life, right?
Joe Rogan
Comfortable being in the skids.
Rich Vos
Yeah. This was what I was used to in this business. I don't really ever set myself up for failure. I mean, I produce, I come up with albums. I'm always coming up with new material, and I got seven albums. I'll probably make an eighth album, which is a pretty. It's a lot for a career, I would imagine.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's great.
Rich Vos
I don't go into clubs and drink. I don't hit on waitresses, you know, so I don't know. But my wife says the exact same thing you're saying. My wife said to me once, she said, because I had this power of thinking, like, when I think really hard, it comes to me, shit, right? And my wife goes, if you think you deserve a million dollars, you'll get a million dollars. And I said, God gives you what. What you need, not what you want. And then she said, do you think Chelsea Handler needed a TV show? So she kind of, like, debunked my whole need, you know, and want thing. I. If you believe in some kind of power greater than your spiritual. I'm not religious by any, but I. Comes to me, I don't think I fucking screw things up. I don't screw things up. Like, you know, in meetings or when we do pilots or whatever, I. I do what I'm supposed to do. So, I don't know. I mean, in comedy, yeah, for years, I might been a little aggressive on stage or, you know, a little whatever, you know, I think everything now. Well, especially now with clubs or whatever. It's all numbers. They don't give a fuck if you light waitstaff on fire, if you sold out the room, they go, great. You were fabulous. You know, I was. I was working Catch years ago. I was at Catch and Bill Hicks. Okay, so David Brenner's on stage, and this is. They love David Brenner. He's killing, killing. During the peak of David Brenner. He gets off Bill Wal. Bill Hicks goes up and he says, growing up as a kid, I would see Robert Klein and David Brenner, and I figure if they could do it, I could do it. That was his opening show. So now he's doing his bit about Nancy Reagan, skinny, whatever, and calling her the Antichrist. I mean, people are running out the door. They're running out the door. And then he gets off stage and he says to me, he goes, what went wrong? But I swear to God, he goes, what went wrong?
Joe Rogan
Was it serious?
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Joking around?
Rich Vos
No, he was. He. He was. Whatever. He was building. I don't know.
Joe Rogan
It's hard to tell with him.
Rich Vos
Yeah. But anyhow, the. The manager of Booker now after, said to him, you can come and do a spot Here anytime you want. Because he was Bill Hicks. You see what I'm saying? He was Bill Hicks. You know, I worked with him in Texas. So when I first started, and I'm watching him, you know, and we'll get back on track. I'm sorry to go off on those things.
Joe Rogan
Go wherever you want to go.
Rich Vos
So we're working in Texas, he. He just breaks up. His girlfriend breaks up with him. At the time, it's a true story. So he goes, where can you get a hooker, a prostitute and a cab driver?
Joe Rogan
I like how you had to clarify.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I know there's a lot of these young kids now that listen, okay, hooker's a prostitute, okay? So cab driver takes him to one house because they would take you to the. And I go with him. He goes, take a ride. So then we go to one house, she knocks on the door and she opens the door and goes, you're a cop. And slammed the door on him. Slammed the door on his face.
Joe Rogan
He looks like a cop.
Rich Vos
Then he went. But he also. The next place the cab driver took him, she opened the door, goes, you're too young. And slammed the door on him.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Rich Vos
The next night he did 10 minutes or whatever on how he can't. Can't pick up a prostitute in Lubbock, Texas. And I go, I'll never be this funny as long as I live. Like, I've watched people going, amazing, you know, and then I was running then with Bastille. That's when I was running with Bass.
Joe Rogan
Frankie, Bastille.
Rich Vos
Yeah, he. So he. I'll tell you, I think I told you this story. I've told this story and it's been told, but I don't know if I told it last years ago when I did this. And then I'll get back to him. I'm not self sabotaging. That's what you were getting to. In my head. In my self sabotage.
Joe Rogan
Not. Not self sabotaging. I don't think it's a self sabotage thing. It's a. Not understanding the energy that you're putting out there and being accustomed to a certain result. Okay, if you're accustomed to missing your plane pool, you're accustomed to missing the nine ball.
Rich Vos
You're gonna.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you're gonna miss that fucking nine ball every time.
Rich Vos
Well, it happens in golf too.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I'm sure it happens. Same thing. You gotta reset the way you think about things. And if there's something that's eating away at you, that bothers you, that occupies your thoughts, you have to figure out what that is and clean that up. Because that's. That's a big part of the problem with a lot of people. A lot of the problem with a lot of people is maybe they don't like something about themselves. They don't like what they've done. They don't like, you know, choices they've made. And that's in your head all the time. Like, you. You're, you know, the lack of clarity, the lack of peace is in your head all the time. And, you know, it's not. This is not an easy thing. I'm saying. I'm not saying this is like, okay, here's the real formula. Just go out, follow these three steps, and you're going to be rich and famous. It's not that. It's just that success generally happens when you've got as many pieces as possible in order correctly. And failure generally happens when you're overwhelmed by too many things that are not working right. And you. Your. Your. Your attention and your focus is on them. You're divided. You know, a lot of times, you see, it's like a terrible relationship. I've known a lot of really talented people that sabotage themselves with a terrible relationship. And they think somehow or another that this is just how relationships are and this. And they're terrible in that relationship. Like, and then they can never be who they could be. They could never reach their full potential because they're always burdened down by these fucking squabbles they're having with their girlfriend or their boyfriend.
Rich Vos
You know, that's also too a God thing where you think, I could fix this person or I could change him. No one can change.
Joe Rogan
That's Brian Callan.
Rich Vos
He went Brian Callan his whole life.
Joe Rogan
I would tell him, get out now. I would meet his girlfriend. I'd be like, get out now. I met a girl, one girl that he dated. I literally, within five seconds of saying hello to her, I go, come here. I pulled him aside. Cut to. Okay. He doesn't listen. You know, later that night, like, she's drinking wine, she's hammered. It's a disaster. She winds up living with him, eventually figures it out, gets rid of her. A couple years later, he's walking down the street on Sunset, and she's street walking.
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
Yes. Girl he was living with at one point in time. This is Brian Callan. He's. He, like, he felt abandoned when he was young, and so he. I believe I'm speaking for him. And so he's. He's a sweet guy, and he tries to reach out and fix six people.
Rich Vos
Well, here's my Brian Callan story. It's very funny. I was middling for him at Caroline's, which will never happen again because Caroline's is close. I'm middling for him. So I get off stage and I'm single. This smoking hot girl comes up to me and she goes, come on, let's leave right now. I go, I gotta sell my DVDs or CDs. I have to sell my DVDs or CDs after the show. I'm sitting there selling CDs and I see Brian walk out with her, right past me upstairs. I up. But maybe I didn't. Who knows?
Joe Rogan
Well, you definitely didn't, because Bonnie's awesome. No, I wasn't worked out for you in the long run, but it's. Yeah, you definitely should have left with her.
Rich Vos
No, I shouldn't have, because that's where. That, in life is where I was supposed to be at that time when I was there.
Joe Rogan
Okay, I see what you're saying.
Rich Vos
You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
No, you're correct.
Rich Vos
Anything could happen.
Joe Rogan
What if it. What if she's a nightmare? And then you miss out on whatever 400, 500 bucks you would have made selling DVDs.
Rich Vos
Oh, I didn't make that much. I never. 100 even.
Joe Rogan
100 now you're going to a nice restaurant.
Rich Vos
You know, who knows? Who knows? You know, it's this whole negative thing with my. And this is an ego by any stretch, when I say stuff like this. And I've. And my wife's. I know I've earned respect from my peers. I know it because I've done from. From white to black comics, Black comics that most white comics don't even know. You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
You know, we did a lot of those wrongs.
Rich Vos
I did all those TV shows. I did them all.
Joe Rogan
Yep.
Rich Vos
You know. Please. I started black comedy, so. Okay. You can only hold a white man down so long. So. And. And like, I think in life, I'm more about respect than accomplishment.
Joe Rogan
So you more about the respect from your peers?
Rich Vos
Not only my peers. The industry too, though. The industry doesn't know, like, say, some club owner, let's say a club owner. They're not sitting in the room watching your shows. All they care about are the fucking numbers that come in. They don't. I had a club owner once, I said to him, and you're lucky, you're way out of that. But I'm still. I'm in that. So I said, To a club owner once he goes, I said, look, I'm as funny as I've ever been right now in life. Because that doesn't fucking matter. What does that matter? And it's all a quick fix, you know?
Joe Rogan
Right. They just want to sell tickets, sell ticket.
Rich Vos
And I get it. They got to keep the doors open.
Joe Rogan
But that's the weird marriage between the club owner and the comic. You know, I used to tell comics, you know, we're not. Every comic feels like they're battling it with club owners. Like the club owners never giving them enough money. The club owners, them over lied about it being sold out. It was definitely sold out. I want my bonus. That kind of. Yeah, you don't want to be a club owner. You don't, you don't. I mean, I. I give that advice. Then I became one, but just by necessity. But I was like, this is an important relationship. Like, you got to be nice to them and so they respect you and you should. Because everybody, in the beginning, you feel like you're ignored by them. But that's. It's a weird thing because they're just in the business of comedy. Unless you get like, like Brian Dorfman and Zany's. He really loves comedy, you know. Wendy from. From Comedy Works in Denver.
Rich Vos
I'll tell you my Wendy story.
Joe Rogan
Better, good story.
Rich Vos
You'll like it.
Joe Rogan
Okay, but my point is, it's like.
Rich Vos
Well, Corey and Rhode Island's one of the best, nicest guys on the planet.
Joe Rogan
Rhode Islands. What's that one?
Rich Vos
Comedy Connection.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Rich Vos
Mark and Rochester to me, James and governors.
Joe Rogan
The comedy connection in Rhode Island's weird because you're in a bank.
Rich Vos
It's. I know.
Joe Rogan
Bank into a comedy.
Rich Vos
That's how bad the market's doing.
Joe Rogan
Well, that was in the 80s. He did that. That was when I was a kid.
Rich Vos
Such a cool. He fixed the whole thing up. Yeah, it's the whole camera system.
Joe Rogan
It's a great club. It was always a great club. Plus there's not a lot in Rhode island. So when you go there, people are so happy to see you.
Rich Vos
It's. Yeah, it's my. And I'm not bad mouthing her, Wendy. I don't know her like this. So I worked a club twice, and the second time I worked there was Halloween weekend. I mean, it was a guy in the audience in blackface, whatever, you know, so.
Joe Rogan
Really?
Rich Vos
Yeah. This was, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago.
Joe Rogan
10, 15 years.
Rich Vos
10 years ago. But wait a second. So she, she wasn't Even there the week.
Joe Rogan
Okay.
Rich Vos
She tells my manager, I did a lot of crowd work, whatever.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
And so anyhow, this is. So I'm working Syracuse. Funny bone. And my middle. Very funny guy, I think he passed away. He was an older guy, really great joke writer. He's from Denver. He goes, oh, I do a podcast, Wendy. And he sees that I'm closing and he goes, I'll talk to her. So I email Wendy and I go, hey, listen, why don't we start from scratch? Let bygones be bygones, start over, whatever. I'd love to come back in. And she doesn't get back to me. So I write, by your lack of response, it looks like you want to move forward. Here are some available dates. Right? She doesn't get back to me again, shocked. And I write, can I bring my own medal? What do I care, right? It's funny. I'm trying to be funny.
Joe Rogan
So she was just upset that you did crowd work? That's it?
Rich Vos
No, well, she was. The numbers were low, probably. It was Halloween weekend. But I listen, I work enough. And, and you know, I'm saying I'm not bad mouthing any of these people because you bad mouth. You're the one who looks bad. I'm not bad mouthing them. She's got a business to run. Whatever she's got to do, just like any of them. They have a business to run. If this is who they're going to bring in to keep their doors open, I'll always find work. I don't care. You know what I'm saying?
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
So. And industry wise, I mean, now it's a whole. Look, my wife is killing it because she's a writer and a comic and, you know, she's writing movies. She's punching on movies she wrote for the Golden Globes. You know, she has different outlets. No, no, that's cool.
Joe Rogan
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Rich Vos
God, when I quit cigarettes, I quit cigars because I was scared I was going to start smoking.
Joe Rogan
You probably would.
Rich Vos
I probably would because it would lead, you know.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you're puffing on tobacco.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You're going to want to inhale it.
Rich Vos
That's why, you know, I can't even put a dick in my mouth cuz I'm scared.
Joe Rogan
I understand.
Rich Vos
You know that. So, you know, she has different outlets as a stand up. I'm just a stand up. I'm a club comic. I love, you know, I do theaters, I do whatever, but I love doing, I really like doing clubs.
Joe Rogan
So it sounds like you're doing exactly what you want to do. Yes. So what the fuck's the problem?
Rich Vos
I don't think there is a problem, but it's. I said just one more thing to put it over the top. Do you know what I mean? One more.
Joe Rogan
You're never totally satisfied, Rich Foster.
Rich Vos
Well, that's a good point. Yes. I'm a, I'm an addict.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
You know, so look, here's, here's my, here's how up I am.
Joe Rogan
How up are you?
Rich Vos
I'm gonna tell you right now, son. And this is not in, in the morning, I drink my coffee, I sit at the table.
Joe Rogan
Sounds like me.
Rich Vos
And I put a bird feeder and I watched the birds feed. And it's very relaxing watching them all come and feed. It's very, very relaxing.
Joe Rogan
Right?
Rich Vos
Okay. Now I have seven bird feeders around my property because I figured, well, this will be seven times more relaxing watching bird chaos. No, but they're all over. I mean, I got ones that I, with a video camera, I could see who's coming to squirrel. I don't care if the squirrel eats the, you know, but it's my addictive personality.
Joe Rogan
Right where you always want more.
Rich Vos
A little more. Yeah. Just a little more.
Joe Rogan
New car, different color, same car. One more ring. One more ring, one more tattoo.
Rich Vos
I took two off, you know, so it's. And I. I work on myself. I go to meetings. Two, three a week. You know, I still.
Joe Rogan
After all these years.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Do you still feel the pole after all these years?
Rich Vos
No. I haven't got gambling to fall back on.
Joe Rogan
What are you gambling on?
Rich Vos
What am I gambling?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
Well, I mean, once in a while, I'll play on my phone at night. Slots.
Joe Rogan
Oh, boy.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I did real well.
Joe Rogan
You made money One.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Last year.
Joe Rogan
I gotta say, slots on your phone sounds like the dumbest idea, because there is no way it's not fixed. At least a slot machine is random.
Rich Vos
Well, slots in the casino is the biggest sucker. Bet on the biggest sucker. I'll play craps if I'm gonna play. If I'm gonna gamble on a machine, I'm play craps like a man.
Joe Rogan
You know what drives me crazy? When I hear that someone hits the slots and they won't give out. They won't give the money because there's. Oh, there was an error with a machine.
Rich Vos
That's.
Joe Rogan
I've heard that many times. Like, your error. Give that guy his money.
Rich Vos
This is what I won last year on slots.
Joe Rogan
Let me see this. Really? Yeah, really.
Rich Vos
Yeah. I got lucky. Two jackpots.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Rich Vos
But now I keep playing. Think I'll get more. I think I'll hit the big one.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, well, that's how they get you.
Rich Vos
Yeah. I mean. Okay.
Joe Rogan
I have a friend who's very wealthy and is a degenerate gamble. Dana White from the.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah. Oh, I see the videos.
Joe Rogan
Degenerate. He's a nut. Because I was just reading an article about Hunter Campbell, who's the financial officer. Was, like, trying to talk to him. Just saying, you're made. Like you're killing me. Like, why are you doing this? He loves it. Love that.
Rich Vos
It's. There's the. That goes off in your head. Even. Even when you lose. You're like. I mean, I.
Joe Rogan
Makes you feel like you're alive. Something's happening.
Rich Vos
I was in Vegas, and I walked to the table with 300 bucks. Crap table. And it's me. And the whole table is. I mean, I held the dice for almost an hour. 300, I turned into 5,000. The table's going nuts. I'm. I'm winning everybody formula and diapers at the table. They're yelling Cat with a hat. And if it's just such a. You know. And then for the rest of the week, I didn't gamble again because I go, I can't follow that. I'm not gonna be able to do that again. So it's not like I'm obsessed with it. Numbers. I am, kind of. But, you know, I've been to casinos and work for three, four days and not even played. But when I do, it's like. Like me. My wife and I were in Canada and we went to a casino. I go, well, let me go back to the hotel and put some. Put my credit cards and money there. And she goes, you can't go into a casino with all your money and credit cards.
Joe Rogan
I go, how does she ask that question? She knows you.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I know.
Joe Rogan
She should know you can't. She's fucking with you. Yeah, well, she knows you can. Yeah, but she should say good for you.
Rich Vos
Yeah, that's a good point.
Joe Rogan
She should say, good for you. That's smart.
Rich Vos
But she didn't know me when I was an addict.
Joe Rogan
Oh.
Rich Vos
She never saw me when I was out there.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but I. Well, I guess I did. I knew you when you were an addict, but. Yeah, but I. You. But you cleaned up nice. You really did. You figured it out. Well, you really did. So, like, she should. She should know that.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Not to go to the casino.
Joe Rogan
Supportive.
Rich Vos
That's what I'm trying to say.
Joe Rogan
How about that, Bonnie?
Rich Vos
You know what? That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, we're. Now, you guys are one of the.
Joe Rogan
Funniest couples of all time, though. There's like a few, like Christina Pinsky and Tom Segura, Natasha Leggero, Moshe Casher. There's a few, like, you know, people say, like, comics shouldn't date comics. Well, I don't know about that, because sometimes it fucking works. Really?
Rich Vos
Well, what am I going to do? Come home to a dentist? You know, and for me, you know, we. You know, we really come together when we find the same enemy and the same person we could trash.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
You know, or we talk comedy. We make each other laugh. Yeah. We fight and have all the fucking, you know, every couple and your comics. Yeah. And we're so to talking shit. Well, to be. To be a male comic, you got to be fucked up. To be a female comic, that's a whole nother level of up. Because, you know, they go on a road, they gotta worry about everything.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They gotta worry about fans, where they're.
Rich Vos
Staying, what it's like, it's stalked.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah. It's horrible.
Rich Vos
And thank you for saying we're funny. Yeah, we were together.
Joe Rogan
You guys are very funny. It's like, you know, I was using his example because comics will say all the time, don't date comics. And I'm like, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Because, like, why not? I don't think you should never date. Although I stopped dating Italians when I was 21.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. It's just like, the last one swung at me. I was like, I'm done.
Rich Vos
Well, I only dated as she was swinging.
Joe Rogan
I was like, I can't believe she's swinging at me.
Rich Vos
That's hilarious.
Joe Rogan
Like, while this was happening, her arm was pulling back. It was coming towards my face like, I can't believe this. This is happening.
Rich Vos
Well, I only date Irish. Like, I can't afford a Jew broad. So I went. I went fucking Irish. I'd rather go to fucking Marshalls than Barney's, you know?
Joe Rogan
Well, also, like, you probably. Well, the thing about Jewish women, the. The stereotype is that they're very controlling.
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
They're. You know, it's like a. How the mom is. You know, it's like, you take that role of, like, the mom of the house, then your wife becomes your mom. There's the stereotype.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Not saying it's always that way.
Rich Vos
Very. A little naggy.
Joe Rogan
A little naggy.
Rich Vos
You know?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
And I mean, look, Bonnie grew up on a farm killing chickens, you know, perfect. She's. I.
Joe Rogan
She's good for the. Like, when the revelation comes.
Rich Vos
And not only that, I have running water, you know, they had a. They slept on the floor. She grew up like I did. Poor. And we started dating. I mean, I was already in the business for I don't know how many years. I. It's like, they say, don't date comics. Yeah. Well, if you're a new comic and they're a new comic, it's going to be competition the whole time. It's going to be jealousy. But I was already established and she was established.
Joe Rogan
But it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. It could be, but it doesn't. Like, these. These, like, hard, fast rules, they don't work. It all completely depends on the individual. I mean, how different are comics? Like, how different are you to Shane Gillis? How different am I to Ari Shafir? Like, we're all different. Even though we're all real good friends, we're all. There's no hard Rules.
Rich Vos
No, I luckily came up with the one of the strongest crews in New York.
Joe Rogan
Oh, you came up with amazing Patrice.
Rich Vos
Patrice Norton. Billy, Bobby, Colin. You know Kev.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
Lil, you know Kevin Hart.
Joe Rogan
It was amazing crew.
Rich Vos
You know our crew and you know them. Bonnie Hump, bro.
Joe Rogan
I knew you back when you had Jerry curls.
Rich Vos
You knew me when I was doing Robin Gibbons bits.
Joe Rogan
That's right.
Rich Vos
You don't remember. You might remember we were working a one nighter in Seaside, New Jersey. It was my ex wife and me, you and her took a walk to the boardwalk. We were in Seaside, right on the boardwalk and it was just me, you and her. I think you just came down from Boston and I don't think you were living in New York if you were just doing some shows, some one nighters and shit. And we did a one nighter. Okay. Probably first. It had to be. I got 39 years with her. Probably like 30, 38 years ago.
Joe Rogan
That doesn't even make sense because I've been doing comedy for 30. Let me see, 88. 97. 37 years.
Rich Vos
Okay, so then I. Okay, I was with Bonnie. So yeah, I mean, Kelly. So I had. You're right.
Joe Rogan
I had to be like 1990 then.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I had like four years clean.
Joe Rogan
90 was when I first started coming to New York. Okay, you already clean by then.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah, so. And I was already married, so Yeah, I had five years clean. So it was maybe like 34 years, which could fall or 35. So yeah, we're working a one nighter and I. I remember walking up the street, me, you and Bonnie to the boardwalk. I mean, Kelly, Kelly. To the boardwalk, to the boardwalk. And it was just some one nighter. And then I don't know if we ever worked again together. Oh, well, Danger Fields. We did some.
Joe Rogan
We did Caroline's together too. I remember doing carillons with you. Oh, we did a lot of Dangerfield shows together.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Did we ever do prom shows together?
Rich Vos
Yes. Oh, Jesus.
Joe Rogan
And people should know what prom shows are. So New York has a very weird thing where they take kids from like Staten Island, Brooklyn, and they bring them in in buses to Danger Fields. And the show would run from like 7pm till 5 in the morning. No break, no break. Just you would go one show and you get paid by the show. It was like, it was good money. I forget what it was, but it was like you get paid but like you make a couple grand in a night if you did the whole night. So you would do stand up from 7pm to like 5am but sometimes some.
Rich Vos
Of the shows were the same, some of the same crowd.
Joe Rogan
Most of the channels.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
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Rich Vos
Proms at Danger Fields, and this is all young kids in high, you know, getting ready to go to college. And Ronnie goes on, he walks on stage in a robe, drunk. He's not doing comedy. He's bum in the crack. He's talking about his divorce or death. And all these kids are just, they're all looking at him like the jury from my cousin Vinnie. When they were looking at the stuttering lawyer, their eyes were just going, what is going on with this man? Right? And he just, it was the most depressed. And then I think Brian Regan had to follow him. And the fact, I mean, if you look at your career and some of mine and Brian Regan, we were Doing prom shows. Yeah, I did. I did. There was a contest at Rascals, and I think the winner got to do comedy on a plane, right?
Joe Rogan
That was back when they smoked on planes.
Rich Vos
And I think John Stewart was one of the contestants. Like I remember doing. I remember doing. Or else it was a Johnny Walker competition. I was there. It was like, me, John Stewart, Jim Gaffigan, you know, to do some Johnny Walker tour. I don't fucking know, whatever the contest was. But it was all these contests. But you would see, look, I worked clubs. I was working one club once. And after the show, it was in Scranton Penns, at a Holiday Inn, me and another comic. After the show, the owner brings us in the back room and pulls out a gigantic bag of coke and says, do you want coke or money? And I took the coke. And the guy who took the money is Adam Sandler. And look where he is. And look where I am. Adam Sandler took the money and old. He opened up. He's a guitar comic and he opened up.
Joe Rogan
That was a Nick's comedy Stop thing. Coker money.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah, I worked.
Joe Rogan
Did they offer you coker money back then?
Rich Vos
I don't. And I was getting high because when I first started comedy, somehow they. What was his name? Dominic and Jackie Gateman or something. They liked me for some reason. I stunk. But they would give me spots at Nick's and I would get either money, but I would buy coke from Mike, the drug dealer that the Colombians killed. He was the coke dealer up there. I would stay behind the connection at the Milner Hotel, which was all prostitutes and drug addicts, right? And, you know, I would go up there and Nick's was giving me shows upstairs, downstairs. So the one time, the last time I was up in Boston, I did Springfield, Mass. And Westfield, Mass. 252 Elm and some other Norm Lefo shit and Norm Lafoe.
Joe Rogan
Western Massachusetts. Yeah.
Rich Vos
So then I went to Nick's. I go, I'm not spending my money on drugs. I'm not this. I'm coming home with fucking money, right? So I'm working this place called Plums in Worcester, and this waitress. Oh, fucking smoking hot. After the show because I did some coke bits. She goes, you do coke? I go, yeah, I go. I go. I go, do you know where I can get any coke? And we couldn't get any coke in Boston. I'm not. We drove from Boston. I went back to New York, bought a bunch of crack. We got a hotel, smoked all night. I. We had sex this and that. And it was Saturday night, and I'm 40 minutes from home and I have one more show in Boston on a Sunday, and I have to drive her all the way back to Boston. No money left. Maybe 10 or $20. Just enough to get back to Boston, do my show, luggage in a fucking paper bag. We stop on the way up in Hartford, we try to buy coke or heroin, and we got ripped off. She's crying because she's gonna lose her job. Fucking blood started pouring out of my nose as we're driving. Just pouring out. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. I swear to God. Right, right. Well, and then she goes, my sister wants an ounce of coke. So I was going to set her up and. And rip her off and, you know, oh, boy, you know, get a free ounce of coke. Well, anyhow, two weeks later, I. I end up in rehab. That was my bottom, that trip to Boston. I ended up in rehab. And about a year or two later, I'm working Fort Lauderdale, and her sister's there with her boyfriend who's the size of a house. So if I did rip her off, I would have gotten fucking the shit killed beaten out of me, you know, what are the odds? So that last trip to Boston, and I spent all the money I wasn't going to spend, but this girl was fucking hot, you know? Then I came out of rehab and I think I had like a month or two months clean. And I'm working Daytona beach, this. Wait, where. I don't know. I was. I had bad teeth, Jerry curl. And my wife says this. She saw videos of me from around. So she goes, you're such a mess. But you had so much confidence. And girls like confidence, right? Because I would be on stage, rotten teeth and grease dripping out of my hair. So I mess, I look like a rat. And this hot waitress in Daytona, we go back to her place and I'm making out with it. Something tastes funny. I go, what? And she pulls out a bag of coke. And I had like a month clean, two months. I go, I can't do that. I. I gotta get out of here. I mean, I fucked her. But then I left real quick, you know. You know, and it was scary.
Joe Rogan
So you never bounced back? You never went back to drugs?
Rich Vos
No, no.
Joe Rogan
That's amazing.
Rich Vos
39 years ago.
Joe Rogan
That's incredible. You have one fall off and you're like, I'm done.
Rich Vos
Well, I mean, here's for me now. And, you know, as the years accumulated, you know, I was. I was working, I was saving money. I was buying, you know, If I went and got high now, this watch alone would kill me. I could pawn this watch, right? It would be enough money for me to die, right? You know, money I've hidden around the house. You know, no one's gonna find it. I don't even think, hey, we're gonna go to Force's house and find his money. This shit is hidden well, all right? So go fuck yourselves. So anyhow, I'll die. There's no look for a year, and I got to get back on track. I stopped eating. Not. Not keto, but cut back on carbs. Sugar just. I did real well for a year. I mean, I was fucking ripping up again, and for my age. And it's harder to. My daughter comes upstairs and goes, oh, I made homemade chocolate chip cookies. Oh, give me one. Well, the seventh cookie I had to throw in the garbage. The seventh. I go, I can't. I gotta stop. So that's how my fucking mind is. There's no. There's no one time. What the. I play golf and guys are drinking a beer. I go, what the are you doing? We like to taste off Gatorade. Tastes good. You drink to get drunk. What are you drinking? A beer. You know, and it's just. And then on stage, if I go, I quit. Somebody goes, quitter. Shut the up. You're here having wine coolers. Sell your mother's car to get high. Go yourself.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Rich Vos
You don't know anything about getting hot.
Joe Rogan
Oh, you're fighting with people who aren't even here.
Rich Vos
I know. I'm just telling you.
Joe Rogan
They shower arguing with these guys.
Rich Vos
Oh, you know how many arguments I've had? I know you're gonna bring in your whole pro Palestinian crew that I was gonna fight today, which I have stuff printed out. We'll read later, we'll relay. But that's so funny. You're having fights with me. You don't ever lay in bed or argue with. Have arguments with people that no, you've never had.
Joe Rogan
I did when I was young. Yeah. I figured that out when I was younger. This is stupid. And when the impulse comes, which it does, I just. I go, this is stupid. I talk to myself. I just coach myself.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Gotta have, like, another voice in your head.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But most people have one voice in their head, and that voice is like, we should go get high, or, we should do this. We should.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You have to have a second voice. And the second voice is like, what advice would I give me? And the advice I'd give me is like, you're wasting your Time arguing in the shower with someone who doesn't even. They don't even know you're arguing with.
Rich Vos
I know it's true.
Joe Rogan
You're not even there. You're like, replaying it out in your head so you could have had a better thing to say to them.
Rich Vos
They say they're living rent free in your head.
Joe Rogan
Yes, that's what it is. Yeah. I don't allow anybody in my head.
Rich Vos
No, I had the second for. I do. And I'm not religious by any. But I'll say up. You know, God, get me off. You know, what should I do? What's my purpose? Or what can I do in life? You know, look, my main purpose in life, besides being. My main purpose is staying sober. Because if I don't, I'm dead easily. And everything I throw away, then my family, obviously, you know, and my. And my career, you know, all the. I put about Israel, this and that. That's. That's my life is comedy. But I think in life, if you're not part of the. Like as a solution, you're part of the problem with what's going on in this world. With. In this. Mainly in this country. The anti. Semitism in this country.
Joe Rogan
The anti Semitism in this country is weird because it popped up like it was hiding, you know, after October 7th, it popped up like it was hiding. Like, what. Where is this? Been here the whole time. It was weird. And I think there's a lot of it in. On Twitter in these places that I think is not human beings, and that inspires human beings to get bold. I think there's a lot of it that's bots. There's a lot of it that's. But I see these. I've. Like, when someone says something outrageous on Twitter, I'll go to the account and see, like, what. What they're doing and what. And sometimes I go, oh, this isn't a person like you. You can figure it out after, like, a couple of pages. Like, this is not an actual person. This is a person that jumps onto every controversial subject and says something insightful. They do it over and over again. And you see it with abortion, you see it with immigration, you see with voting, you see with the rigged elections. Like, there was an FBI analyst who took a look at Twitter before the purchase and he said, I think it's as much as 80 bots. I think we're getting played as a civilization back and forth. I think we're getting. I think so many people are vulnerable to, like, following a narrative well and.
Rich Vos
And, and I, I agree. She. And I've said this, and I believe in free speech. You didn't. I, when we talked about this, you didn't agree with it.
Joe Rogan
But I didn't agree with free speech.
Rich Vos
No, no, no. What I said about the Internet, that some people in life use, that PLA shouldn't have a platform in life because they're, they're nuts. They're nuts. Like, if you had someone in an audience that's nuts, you're gonna, you're gonna take them out, you're gonna get rid of them.
Joe Rogan
Right, but that's the difference between an audience and the Internet is you don't have to engage with the nuts.
Rich Vos
Okay? But there's people that are following these nuts, okay? You take whatever's going on in the Middle east, whatever, whether, whatever side you're on. Israel, Palestine, whatever. Why are college campuses letting this happen? On campus where Jews can't go to class, where they're being harassed, where they feel threatened?
Joe Rogan
Well, a lot of that stuff is funded.
Rich Vos
Yeah, it's funded by Qatar or whatever.
Joe Rogan
Or whatever. Whoever is doing it. There's, there's most certainly there's funding and organization involved. These aren't organic protests that just pop up. No, of course everybody wants to think they are, because some people join organically. They hop in, but it's not. No, these are all being organized, of course, including the anti Elon protests, including like, you know, the, the end oligarchy rallies that they have with AOC and Bernie Sanders. All this is getting, it's all getting funded and astroturfed, and they're busing people in. They're manufacturing a movement, of course.
Rich Vos
And I mean, listen, they didn't all go out and buy the same tents. You know, they, you know, it's. And there's, I don't know how many that are getting funded. And then they bring in, you know, it's just like the tents are crazy.
Joe Rogan
We're gonna camp out for Palestine.
Rich Vos
Yeah, it's just like, you know, I don't want to get into the 80s and foreclosures on, on farms, you know. Well, when banks were foreclosing on farms, Jews were going, look, the Jews are foreclosing on our farm. The Jewish bankers. And they weren't even the bankers doing it. It was the WASP bankers. Jews barely worked at Chase Manhattan in the early 80s or 70s. So.
Joe Rogan
But they blame the Jews.
Rich Vos
But they blame. Because it's easy to go after, you know, that. So throughout the Midwest or the south, it's easier to build up Hatred or a group to go after a smaller group going, hey, these people are closing on your farms. These are the people that are doing it. And these people don't have the knowledge. And the hate just grows and grows from generation to generation. Does that make sense? So, you know, same with, you know, that, look, I got shit I printed out is, you know, I'll show later maybe. I don't know. I mean, listen, I'm a comic, but I, I really. You see what post. Sometimes I post some and it's not. I'm not anti. I'm not anti.
Joe Rogan
You're pro Israel.
Rich Vos
I'm just pro. Is. But I'm.
Joe Rogan
You're pro Jew?
Rich Vos
I'm pro Jew in this country. And I'm not religious by any stretch. I don't. It's. I think it's a holiday now. It's Passover or something. I don't know. I'm not religious. My cousins were. My family wasn't.
Joe Rogan
You think about it as a people.
Rich Vos
I think about it as. Yes, as a people. You know, if what was happening in this world to black people or gay people, these colleges would put an end to it. It would stop. All right. If. If people were ripping down posters of. Of hostages, of black hostages or gay hostages, when that was happening, it wouldn't happen. It would.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, that was crazy. You know, that was crazy where people were upset that people wanted people to bring the hostages home. Like these hostages. Some of them were aid workers.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Some of them were people that like lived there so they could help people in Gaza. The whole thing is so crazy. But I wonder, like, how did they get turned that way? Or were they like what I said, like they were in hiding. There was like, anti. See as a person who's not a Jew, I would hear about all the anti Semitism. Like, yeah, there's always going to be some. But maybe everyone's exaggerating. But then when this After October 7th, it was just like, oh, fucking everywhere.
Rich Vos
Are you.
Joe Rogan
Are you.
Rich Vos
What's your background?
Joe Rogan
Italian. Italian, yeah. Mostly one quarter Irish.
Rich Vos
Okay. If every surrounding country.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
Oh, I get Italy. They're gonna fight back by any means necessary.
Joe Rogan
I 100.
Rich Vos
Can I show you some? Okay, now we don't have to do. We can talk. I don't know. I got to do a little of it. A little.
Joe Rogan
Whatever you want. I don't care. Do whatever you want. I'm joking around, but yeah, no, I understand. And I think that's also one of the things that people like my wife should keep away.
Rich Vos
Go ahead.
Joe Rogan
When People get angry about Jews is because they think that Jews always stick together and they like Jews above all else. And then it's like those people. You know, there's like that walled garden approach, you know, if. What do you got there? You got a manila envelope like you're in court? Look at this.
Rich Vos
Relax, I'm. I come.
Joe Rogan
What do you got, charts?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Well, here.
Joe Rogan
Did you bring graphs? What's that first page? Is that a photo of Israel? What is it? You got a map? You brought maps?
Rich Vos
He brought.
Joe Rogan
He brought maps for me. This is the dumbest I've ever seen from you.
Rich Vos
Look at the dot. Look at the size of Israel.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's very small.
Rich Vos
Look at who they're surrounded by.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they're surrounded by a bunch of Muslims.
Rich Vos
All right.
Joe Rogan
Not a good spot to be if you're Jew.
Rich Vos
So when they should have probably moved.
Joe Rogan
To a different spot, it's like, you know. You know what I mean?
Rich Vos
I got other better stuff. I just start off with the weaker stuff. If you're.
Joe Rogan
You're a black guy, you move into a KKK neighborhood, that's like. You're gonna have problems.
Rich Vos
Yeah. I mean, so it is kind of crazy, wouldn't you think? By any means necessary. They're gonna do what they have to. Do I survive?
Joe Rogan
Yes. I totally think they would. And I understand that aspect of it.
Rich Vos
Yeah. I gotta turn it on. Sorry. My wife. I don't know how she got my number. Start the car.
Joe Rogan
It is crazy when you look at the map. It's not just that they're surrounded, but they're surrounded by everyone. Everyone. Enormous countries.
Rich Vos
I mean, all the way up.
Joe Rogan
It's interesting. You go down Saudi Arabia, the end of it, you forget, oh, it's Ethiopia's right there.
Rich Vos
And then, I mean, Turkey hates Israel, Iran, or, you know, they're being attacked by four or five different nations at once, and everybody's going, well, you know, they're. They're committing genocide. First of all, those numbers are coming out of. Coming from Hamas. Where do you think those numbers are coming from?
Joe Rogan
Okay, but the drone footage isn't coming from Hamas. The drone footage is real. Like, if you cover, like, Gaza with a drone, there's nothing left. It's pretty nuts.
Rich Vos
Well, I. I bet you if they released the hostages October 10th, none of this would have happened.
Joe Rogan
That's true.
Rich Vos
None of this would have happened. During the Clinton administration, Arafat was in the White House probably six or seven times. The head of the CIA during the Clinton administration visited the White House twice. Arafat six or seven times. And they offered a two state solution. Clinton, that would have been Clinton's legacy, to have peace and the two states. But Arafat kept turning it down because Arafat's a terrorist. And if he does that, what purpose does he serve? What purpose as he's.
Joe Rogan
Is it that simple?
Rich Vos
Well, to me it is because I'm not the smartest.
Joe Rogan
Part of the problem. Well, part of the problem with Israel and Palestine. And I've sat down and thought about this conflict, not that I'm an expert either, but it's almost insurmountable. It has been. And then now, after October 7th, with all the bombings and with. When they leveled Gaza, it's like, how do you fix this? It's like there's no, there's. You've, you've created whatever the numbers are. Yeah. Whether it's 70,000 people or 20,000 thousand people that have been killed that are innocents, you've created so many more potential terrorists because so many of the children of those people and the brothers and sisters and relatives of those people. So it's like, it's like reinforced this desire to, to fight against Israel. But we, you know, and you could squash that. You could. You just keep pounding them down till there's nothing left, which is what it seems to. That they're doing. But we, and I understand it from a tactical perspective, I guess.
Rich Vos
Do we have, does. Do we have that animosity and hatred from Japan towards us where we dropped, you know, killed 350,000 people. We, I mean.
Joe Rogan
Well, they did for a while.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But they certainly did for a long while.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Friends who'd go to Japan in the 70s and they said you could feel the hatred.
Rich Vos
Yeah. But now it's, that's, it's 55.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They're not like that at all now.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Okay.
Joe Rogan
But it's a totally, completely different generation. So you think future generations will think about Israel the same way we think about Japan or Japan thinks about us?
Rich Vos
No, because future generations in the Middle east, this has been going since day one, since the Six Day War, since the Yom Kippur War, since, since day one they've been being attacked. So there's never. No.
Joe Rogan
Well, it's also before Israel was founded, you got to go back to how they were being persecuted in Europe. It was insane. There's this guy, Darrell Cooper's a lightning rod for controversy, unfortunately. But he's a, he's got an amazing podcast and he's got this series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem. And it starts out with the Jews being persecuted in, in Europe. And he takes you through what it would have been like for those people and the gangs of people roaming down the streets, raping women, beating men to death in the streets. And it's so crazy because it's real. It happened. And it was these people's neighbors. And, you know, this was why they got so many people to move to Israel in the first place.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Because when they said, look, we're setting up a state for, for just for Jews from all these Eastern European Jews are like, okay, we're in. And they moved. I mean, you know, and then. Yeah.
Rich Vos
And they've also been there since Christ. I mean, they've been in Israel even before that.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
A couple weeks.
Joe Rogan
But I think it predates. I mean, doesn't it predate Jesus?
Rich Vos
Yeah, I mean, I'm not his story. And this isn't my.
Joe Rogan
Let's find out. Let's find out since we can. What is the earliest. Who were the. What. When did Jews first settle the land that's now known as Israel? But it was Judea back then. Right. Like, what was it called? Was it initially called Miami, but also like. Yeah, this is like, you know, this is one of the reasons why it's. This area is so, so contentious is because Christians really believe that when Jesus comes back, that's where he's coming back. He's gonna come back Jerusalem. Like, are you sure? Are you sure?
Rich Vos
But here's, here's another thing too. This. And I'm not. Listen, I've worked. I'm not going to be that guy. Oh, I had a Muslim friend.
Joe Rogan
Jews have been a history in the land of Israel. The presence dating Back to the second millennial BCE okay. Settling in the area around 1250 BCE so that predates Jesus by 1250 years. It's funny, they call it before current era. Like, current era is not 2000 years ago. Just say before Jesus, you mother.
Rich Vos
That's what I say.
Joe Rogan
Second millennial BCE the Israelites, considered to be the ancestors of the Jewish people, emerged as an outgrowth of the Southern Canaanites. Israelites entered canon in 1250 BCE settling the hill country in the south 10th century BCE two Israelite kingdoms, northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern kingdom of Judea emerged of Judah rather emerged. The Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE and in 586 BC the Kingdom of Judah was conquered by the neo Babylonian Empire. 538 BC the Persian Cyrus the Great ended the Babylonian Exile and the Jews returned to their homeland. So they've been. They've been there since 538bce, started in 1250 BC so they were there before anybody. Yeah. The romans destroyed the Second Temple of Jerusalem in 70 current era leading to the Jewish dysphoria. Wow. Crazy history of controversy in that one place. 48. The State of Israel was established. Many Holocaust survivors welcomed it as a homeland.
Rich Vos
Yeah. In 48. And since then they've been at war.
Joe Rogan
And so they started settling. Another wave of Jews started coming in 1904. From 1904 to 1914.
Rich Vos
So.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
Before 538 BCE.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. But the problem is, like, there were Palestinians there. And like, what are. They don't even have a country. Let's you. If you've got people that are right next to you that don't even have a country, they don't. They don't have. You know, what is it? What do they do? If they're ruled by Hamas, how do they fight back? Right, these. They are protesting in the streets now.
Rich Vos
They are against Hamas. Yeah, they are.
Joe Rogan
They get executed.
Rich Vos
Did you just see that? The big protest? I just saw that.
Joe Rogan
Thousands. Thousands of courageous people protesting in the street.
Rich Vos
It's.
Joe Rogan
They're like, we don't want any more of this. Stop.
Rich Vos
Well, look what happened. They got, they, they got. I mean, Kus of Israel's help got Assad out of Syria. Now the rebels took over. But Assad killed almost 500,000 of his own people, tortured 100,000. I mean, those are the numbers I read. I don't know if they're exact, but.
Joe Rogan
He'S got a lot of controversial about Assad and there's a lot of controversial about controversy, you know, about what actually happened and why we were backing the rebels. We essentially, we essentially backed isis, which is crazy. We backed Al Qaeda, which is just nuts.
Rich Vos
He. But he was more dangerous in Syria, according to. Well, also according to Israel because Israel weakened Iran's military after they were attacked by Iran, who was supplying Assad with weapons.
Joe Rogan
You know what's really. Before Iran became a religious state, women were like wearing mini skirts.
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Hot. It was like there was freedom everywhere. People were like chilling. It seemed almost like in like Europe.
Rich Vos
Probably like a, like a resort vacation. Like, they were beautiful.
Joe Rogan
Oh, they were gorgeous women. Irene. That Persian women have incredible genes. It's like you, you, you look at these photos from like, see if you can find some photos of Iran, like early 1970s. I was, I was seeing some things on it this morning actually on the way over. Here or before I left my house, I was seeing this. It's. It's so hard to imagine that a place that was. That had a democratically elected leader. You know, it was. You know, it was kind of almost European. And then now. Now it's just a full religious state, and anybody who. Anybody who protests against the government gets assassinated. Like they. They assassinate an Olympic gold medalist wrestler because he was perceived to be protesting. I don't even know if he actually protested. It was like some things that you post online, like, if women take off their head scarves, they can get killed.
Rich Vos
But why.
Joe Rogan
I don't get crazy that a country can fall like that.
Rich Vos
I don't get where gays or women or whatever are backing. They're basically backing Hamas.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
I don't get.
Joe Rogan
They're retarded.
Rich Vos
I don't get it.
Joe Rogan
Because they just do the new thing. What's the new thing? Is it climate change? Why am I yelling? Climate change? Okay? Climate change is black lives matter, okay? Black lives matter. It's all it is. There's a lot of people out there that are just. And those are the people that you see getting bused into these rallies. And there's just a lot of dopes that you could get to agree with almost anything. And there's gay people for Hamas, believe it or not. Trans people for Hamas.
Rich Vos
It's fucking.
Joe Rogan
I know.
Rich Vos
Blacks for the clan.
Joe Rogan
It's hard to tell how many of them are real because there's a few people that troll online and they'll pretend I'm a tr. You know, I'm a trans woman, but I'm also a Muslim. Like, okay, they will throw you off a fucking roof.
Rich Vos
No, there's none left.
Joe Rogan
No roof. There's a couple high points. It's just hard to get to them.
Rich Vos
It's here's. And obviously, as a comic, I believe in the First Amendment. I say shit that you can't cancel me anyhow. I believe, and maybe I'm wrong and maybe you disagree. I want to see your opinion.
Joe Rogan
Look at this, okay? After Iran for the 1970s. Look, girls and mini skirts looking hot.
Rich Vos
They look that looks like Europe.
Joe Rogan
Look at this girl sitting in front of a car. Cute little outfit.
Rich Vos
She'd be killed doing that now.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Look at the beaches in Iran in the 1970s. Not crazy.
Rich Vos
No litter.
Joe Rogan
Look at these.
Rich Vos
God, look at the tits on that one.
Joe Rogan
Hot one lady, though. That was the future. The future is in the lower right corner.
Rich Vos
Oh.
Joe Rogan
Covered up like Yoda. It's crazy. That's. That's what happened to that place? Like, look at these people hanging out, being free. 1979 is when it all went to. And they call it the revolution, but I think it was us back, son.
Rich Vos
Okay, what's your opinion? It's my opinion. Free speech. Protest all you want at college. There's protests wherever. But take off the masks.
Joe Rogan
I don't take off the masks, period. I don't believe in a society where people walk around with their faces covered. Well, I think there's. It's too dangerous. It's a public safety issue. It's too hard to identify criminals. It's too hard to identify someone who commits a crime.
Rich Vos
During the, during the Vietnam protest, there was never a mask. Those people were proud to protest against the Vietnam War, but there are facial.
Joe Rogan
Recognition software and cameras in the sky. It's like, you know, there's a lot of.
Rich Vos
True. It's true. But now they're hiding and they're committing, to me, some crimes on campus, I think.
Joe Rogan
Well, they're certainly doing a lot of things they shouldn't be allowed to do, like disrupting classes and screaming at professors and. Yes, it's organized.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah, it's organized. And people join in because they just join. They want to be a part. And there's just a lot of people in this world. There's leaders and there's followers. There's a lot of followers. More followers than leaders in the world.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
So we'll get off of this because I know it kind of, you know.
Joe Rogan
But I just wanted that back.
Rich Vos
No, I have other things in there. I have other. Other good points in there.
Joe Rogan
It is. It is a good point, though. But it's like when you have people that are bitter enemies like this. Like these kind of conflicts take thousands of years to work through. And in. In the case of Israel, it's still. It is thousands of years old.
Rich Vos
It's. Look, how they gonna win anything through the U. N. When there's 22, 23 Arab countries in the UN and Israel. So everything's going to be voted against. Yeah, Israel. They're 22, 23 hours. Like, I said this. I. I can't solve or whatever. Is it. Is it unfair? Is it. Whatever. My concern is what's going on in this country. That's my main concern. My daughter's going to college. I don't want her to go to a college where she feels scared to go to class.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
Where she feels threatened just to be who she is.
Joe Rogan
Tell her to go to college in Texas.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I know. That's what She, I, I wanted to go to. So, you know, they have sealed carry.
Joe Rogan
On college campuses here. You know, it's so yeah, this is a different place.
Rich Vos
It's, it's a different time.
Joe Rogan
This is what America like is supposed to be in a lot of ways. You know, it's supposed to be a lot more free, less low, less laws. But you know, there's a lot of laws here that are kind of crazy. You know the, the abortion thing, the six week thing is most women don't even know they're pregnant that quickly.
Rich Vos
I, I think if a women, if a women, if a lady. A woman. Okay, okay. I told you, I walked out in 11th grade. If a lady I think does all her chores, I think, I think once a week she should be able to wear slacks. Abortion, to me, Ivan, it's not really. I think a man and I could be wrong. If you're married or you live with your spouse, the male might have what, 20, 25% of the decision, maybe 30, but some single guy, probably never had a girlfriend. Never live with a girl. Shut the fuck up. Yeah, shut the fuck up. You know what? You just want to be part of something.
Joe Rogan
Well, people love controlling people though. They really do. Which is why, you know, those climate protests drove me fucking crazy. Where they would protest for climate change by blocking the highway. Those fucking idiots.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
All they want to do is control people. That's what they want to do. You're not changing anyone's mind.
Rich Vos
No, not at all.
Joe Rogan
Holding a flag in the middle of the highway, you're just pissing people off. But you're controlling people by stopping traffic. And that's what people like to do. They like to control people.
Rich Vos
And they don't know if somebody's given birth or somebody has to get to the hospital or for anything. It's all self centered. Fucking. I'm more important than you.
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
My. You know, throwing paint on somebody with a fur, they should turn around and fucking beat the daylights out of or these fucking climate people walking into the Reich Museum or the Van Gogh and throwing paint on a.
Joe Rogan
Gluing yourself to the wall.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
What's crazy.
Rich Vos
And then again, you see what they.
Joe Rogan
Did at the Porsche dealership, they, they glued themselves to the floor. And the Porsche dealership, they just shut the lights off and left them in there.
Rich Vos
Oh, really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you. They came back the next day, they glued their hands to the floor like that. They're gonna stop everything. And they were like, okay, good, we'll just shut the doors. Shut the doors, leave them in There to themselves.
Rich Vos
Good Porsches are nice cars. Why would they attack Porsche?
Joe Rogan
They're only doing it because they know it'll get attention. That's all it is. It's a bunch, usually a bunch of very privileged rich kids, white kids that come from a family that has a lot of wealth and to rebel against their parents or probably fucking investment bankers or something. They decide they're gonna fight climate change. Man, they don't even understand what they're fighting. They don't understand the science. They don't. It's complex. It's multilayered and nuanced. And there's a lot of propaganda that's attached to what they call the green agenda. Because the green agenda, like all things that are big and public, is profitable. They have a bunch of companies that if they can get these laws pushed forward, they can have industries that emerge and their industry can. Can benefit from all these laws. And so they'll. They'll fund protests, they'll get people to do things. But it's all 4D chess. There's all these multiple layers of things happening. And then there's the inconvenient actual climate data that the Washington Post printed that show that over the last 50 million years we're in a decline. The Earth is in a cooling period and the Earth never. Like you probably know this, but for people don't. There's never been a static temperature on Earth. It's always gone up and down wildly. It's unpredictable. It has multiple. Multiple factors. Carbon is probably one of them. But it's not the big one. It's not all of it. There's solar activity that's you can't control at all. Solar flares happen and some of them happen. They've happened in the early 1800s. They blew out all the Morse code systems. What was like there was a big solar flare in the 1800s that. See if you can find that. But there's. They could blow out the power grid easy. Kill all the satellites. Easy. What. What carbon is, is food for plants. It's the dumbest fucking thing to protest against. Pollution is a giant issue. Yeah. Do. Do we have an impact on the weather? I'm sure we do. We have an impact on fucking everything but CO2, net zero, all this shit. This is nonsense. Carrington eventually most intense geomagnetic storm recorded history peaking on 1 to 2 September 1859 during a solar solar cycle 10 created strong auroral displays that reportedly glow. That reported globally and caused sparking and even fires in telegraph stations. The Geomagnetic storm was most likely the result of a coronal mass ejection from the sun colliding with Earth's magnetosphere. So if we have some of those in the future, it could do anything. Let's see. A geomagnetic storm of this magnitude occurring today has the potential to cause widespread electrical disruptions, blackouts, and damage to the electrical power grid. We've got real problems. Real problems. And you're not going to solve it with electric cars. You're just not. You're not going to solve it with windmills.
Rich Vos
No, look, if you drive up to Jersey Turnpike or anywhere, and the factories and the lights and all the smoke and all that shit, just everything, all right, Me turning off my light bulb is not going to make a fucking difference.
Joe Rogan
Well, particularly when you look at the emissions that come from China. Yes, China is an enormous, enormous contributor to carbon emissions. And not just carbon emissions, but pollutants particularly. They're not stopping. They have. They. They built 200 new coal plants. You know, they. They're not going to stop no matter what we do. They're going to do what's best for China financially. Period. End of discussion. All these conversations they're having about net zero. Go yourself. You're not going to stop that, okay?
Rich Vos
And. And this is what they're looking out for, their best interests. That's what they're doing. Just like every other fucking country is. Is basically doing, is survival. And that's my point with Israel. They're looking out for what's going to keep us from being extinguished off this planet.
Joe Rogan
Right?
Rich Vos
And, you know, whatever it takes. That's what the Jews. And I'm getting back on this because you lost me on all that. I'm. But what the Jews need is a Malcolm X of Jews.
Joe Rogan
Oh, boy.
Rich Vos
Somebody look at Malcolm X was great. He didn't say hate. He didn't say go after the white man. He said, do what we have to do.
Joe Rogan
Why don't you do that? Why don't you be the Malcolm X for the Jews? Maybe that's your calling, my vocabulary.
Rich Vos
It's. You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
There's no way to tighten that up a little bit?
Rich Vos
Cut a little, a little with Bonnie's help. I fired my manager two weeks ago and I had her write it out for me because I knew I would have said something fucked. You know, And. And another thing, I go, hey, listen, you know, seven years, it's. It's time to move on and I hope we still be friends. And he went, definitely not like, are you sure? Maybe we could work this out. It's like when you fucking leave a girl, she's like, great. Okay, wait, whoa. Come on. I. I added something. Fight for me.
Joe Rogan
Nope.
Rich Vos
So. Nope. So, yeah, I would love to speak in colleges or, or, or maybe that's.
Joe Rogan
Let it cool down.
Rich Vos
Let it cool. Yeah. Right.
Joe Rogan
Give it a year or so.
Rich Vos
I probably wouldn't be able to get to the auditorium.
Joe Rogan
Trump said the wildest shit about Gaza. We're going to turn into the Mediterranean of the Middle East. Yeah, like what? We're gonna take it.
Rich Vos
But he keeps saying, and I. I don't follow. You know, if you don't release the hostages, there's hell to pay. Well, what. What has hell. What has he done to help release the hostages? I mean, we're. Now they're being attacked by Yemen through the who. You know, I mean, what. I don't know. Release the fucking hostages and then maybe left. Now, what is it, 70 or. I don't know, because they keep dropping, you know, four hostages for a thousand prisoners or whatever, you know? I mean, what they're doing, whatever. It's a trade off. How many prisoners they got to give them for a hostage. And, you know, these. This would have never went on in. This, we would not have put up for. I mean, we did with Carter. With.
Joe Rogan
Hostages.
Rich Vos
Yeah. 200. They were there for what, two years?
Joe Rogan
Well, they kept them there until Reagan was in office. Yeah, they kept him there until after the election. That was part of the deal. Yeah, part of the deal is you. You release these folks after Reagan takes over so that Carter can't get credit for it. Yeah, I'm sure.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah, yeah. That was written. That was.
Joe Rogan
Imagine you're a. You're in there and you're like, jesus Christ, I got to be in here for four more months so this guy gets credit. Just crazy.
Rich Vos
Well, did you hear? I didn't see it. I only read what these reporters and journalists, what she said on 60 Minutes. Do you think the hostages didn't feed you because they ran out of food?
Joe Rogan
Oh, that Hamas didn't feed the hostages?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Leslie Stall said that. Did she really say that in an interview? Look it up. She said that to one of the hostages. Do you think they didn't. And don't quote me, because this is what I read. I don't want to get sued by Leslie whoever, but I think she said what I read. Do you think the. The captors didn't feed you because they ran out of food?
Joe Rogan
That's a crazy thing to Say to someone who's a hostage.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I mean, she's crazy. On 60 Minutes, a journal. How do you say something like that?
Joe Rogan
That's a crazy thing to say. But they're bad. The, the problem with these 60 Minutes journalists is the same problem with what they did with the Kamala Harris interview. Took a bumbling answer and edited it out and put an answer to, she gave to something else in its place to make it look like she gave succinct, clear cut answers. It's, it's, that's not really journalism. They're not, they're not doing journal. That's not a question you say to a hostage. You, when you're talking to a hostage, you want to find out what the experience was like in, in as compassionate a way as you can to talk to this person who's been through hell. You, you don't ask them, do you ever think that may feed you because they didn't have any food themselves? Well, here you go. Look at what their face looks like. And look at the sunken in faces of the starving to death hostages. And well, obviously they didn't, they didn't give them any food. So shut up.
Rich Vos
It's. You can't watch the news. You can't because you're gonna go, it's not news anymore. It's. No, it's not. It's clickbait.
Joe Rogan
And it's, it's a business and it's a shitty business. It's not good at doing what it does. And it's all bought and paid for by pharmaceutical drug ads. And it's just not the news. It's not. You get some information that you can learn, but it's not like the unbiased. This is what happened. This is what caused it. This is what's being done now. It's not that it's like halfway there. They're kind of almost activists.
Rich Vos
I had an argument with somebody close to me because I go on Gutfeld. I try to go on once a month, like I said, and, and she says, oh, oh, you're, you're pro Trump. I go, I'm not pro anything or anti anything. I go, I go on. Where else is a comic gonna sit for an hour, try to be funny?
Joe Rogan
On tv.
Rich Vos
Yeah, on TV for an hour.
Joe Rogan
Not much left.
Rich Vos
There's nothing. And it's definitely not going to be on the left because they're not going to let me say the things that I get away.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
On the Gutfeld show. And it's a great show. I mean, it's if you say something funny, they laugh. It's to me the closest to tough crowd.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
To me.
Joe Rogan
I see what you're saying and not.
Rich Vos
Quite, but not quite. But it's, I mean it's fun and, and, and it gets whatever views. And I said to this person, you work with the pharmaceutical companies for 30 years and you're going to tell.
Joe Rogan
Did they really?
Rich Vos
Yeah. And you're going to go on your high horse about me doing a show that's going to help my career and build numbers and. Well, it's not the same. No, it's worse. It's worse.
Joe Rogan
It's way worse. Pharmaceutical drug companies are responsible for who knows how many deaths and injuries.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
They do good too. Absolutely. Some pharmaceutical drugs are great. But you can't be on your high horse. You work for them. That's crazy. In any other business they'd be in jail. They would be fucking jail. You lied about what your product does and it kills a bunch of people. You're in jail.
Rich Vos
Can we talk about one of the reasons I'm here? I don't know if you remember this. I hope you do. I had this torn rotator cuff and you said come down.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, we're gonna get you some stem cells now.
Rich Vos
What's the BPC? BPC157 is that bed which is better for the stem cells or the BPC?
Joe Rogan
There's no one better. They're all very good. BPC 157 is. It's called body protection compound 157. It's a peptide that helps heal soft tissue damage. So do stem cells. All those different things are good because.
Rich Vos
I'm not getting my shoulders operated on. It's like a six month. It's rough and it doesn't always work.
Joe Rogan
So what exactly is wrong with your shoulder?
Rich Vos
So this is a torn rotator cuff right here. I have, I even brought the disc, the X ray.
Joe Rogan
Oh great. Did you do any exercises for you do any rehabs for it?
Rich Vos
Not yet. Because I was waiting to do this to see where this took me.
Joe Rogan
Oh.
Rich Vos
And how I, I would go from there. But you know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
Exercises are always good. Like bands, like band work. Where. Yeah, these kind of things where you like, you keep your, you keep like a towel pressed to your body so you hold it in place and do these like rotations with bands. Like all those things are good just to keep everything strong anyway. Do you do any of that stuff?
Rich Vos
Not those yet.
Joe Rogan
I haven't.
Rich Vos
I tried to hang from a chin up bar.
Joe Rogan
You Ever do this?
Rich Vos
No. For a torn rotator?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, just to strengthen and, and to release a pressure in your shoulders.
Rich Vos
Oh, really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
No, I could.
Joe Rogan
Good. It's good for shoulder health in general to hang from a chin up bar. And if you can't hang, what you do is like get on a box or something that brings you to the height of, of the bar and just hang a little. Just get some weight on it until you can hang fully.
Rich Vos
I mean, look, I could. I could still play golf. I could swing like this.
Joe Rogan
That's good. So this hurts. Totally.
Rich Vos
Okay, well, when I went to the.
Joe Rogan
Doctor, there's a lot of things you can do, rehabilitation, things you could do that'll help you.
Rich Vos
Here's. Here's the only thing. And I could be wrong. You'll. You'll know when they said, you know, rehab to build up the muscle. But I'm 67. How much more muscle am I building?
Joe Rogan
If you're 167, you can build muscle. That's. That's a silly way to look at it.
Rich Vos
Oh, really? Okay.
Joe Rogan
100%. If you're alive.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That means your body's recovering.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So that means your body's generating tissue. That means you can build muscle. Okay. If you can go play golf, you could build muscle. Yes, 100%. If you're 80 fucking years old and a woman, you can build muscle.
Rich Vos
I mean, I, I work out still. I just. Certain exercises I can't do.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, just. You need to do exercises that rehabilitate your shoulder.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You can't just expect it to get better on its own. You're gonna have to put it through some work to strengthen the muscles around it.
Rich Vos
Well, I'm gonna. Like I said, after I do this. When are you leaving?
Joe Rogan
When are you flying out?
Rich Vos
Wednesday.
Joe Rogan
Okay, great. So we'll get you in tomorrow morning. No worries.
Rich Vos
Cool.
Joe Rogan
Get you into waste. Well. And we'll set it up.
Rich Vos
Did I bring the show to a dead holt with my map? I thought it was a good conversation.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's good. It's a good map.
Rich Vos
You know, I got more stuff. I don't want to. Listen, I printed out a bunch of stuff. I don't want to go back and have my dumb Jew friends going, hey, you didn't bring anything.
Joe Rogan
Is that what they do?
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Stop talking to them.
Rich Vos
Then. Then my wife. Don't say anything stupid. Yeah, she goes, sorry, Bonnie, you know, be funny. That's what you are.
Joe Rogan
Coming out.
Rich Vos
I was, I was pretty funny, I gotta say. Listen, I'm. I'm a Good interview. You're fine.
Joe Rogan
You're doing fine.
Rich Vos
You know what? You know what? Our. The best. Not your best. What a great show would be. What, Me, Colin and Norton in here.
Joe Rogan
That'd be phenomenal. Just like, tough crowd.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You probably couldn't do it today unless you did it on the Internet, but you could still do it on the Internet. Like, Colin should really bring it back. I know there's plenty of guys that could still do it. Like, Norton would be phenomenal at it.
Rich Vos
We just did Norton's podcast. Me, Colin and Norton, whatever, podcast. He's got 12 of them. Him. And it was one of the most funniest things. When it comes out you'll ever hear us three together, it's like a.
Joe Rogan
You get back in the old groove again.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Because we're just there to have fun. Yeah, we're there to have fun.
Joe Rogan
Tough crowd. And Opie, Anthony were huge for comedy.
Rich Vos
Huge.
Joe Rogan
Because Opie and Anthony, one of the things that they did that was brilliant is they just let us just go wild, just be ourselves. They didn't really try to control it at all. You know, Anthony would jump in with some funny shit, but the whole show was like, bring on a bunch of comics. Have him talk a bunch of shit. Give him. Give him the reins.
Rich Vos
We. I mean, I could. I was in there one day. Anthony was eating a piece of cake. I walked by him and smacked it out of his hand. He. He. He laughed as hard as anybody on the planet. Because the times we had in there, I was on there with.
Joe Rogan
Were you with me when they brought in Marion Perry? Were you? No, you weren't there. You weren't there.
Rich Vos
Marion Berry.
Joe Rogan
Marion Barry, the fucking. The mayor of Washington, D.C. they got arrested for smoking crack.
Rich Vos
No. You were in there with him.
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
Oh, that had to be. We glassed him.
Joe Rogan
We grabbed. I thought you were in there. Norton was in there for sure. He was next door doing something and doing another interview. And he was in the hallway, and I think Opie said, marion Barry's in the hallway right now. I'm like, let's go get him. And we got him. We brought him in and we started. I started asking him about crack. He's like, well, nobody knows what was in that pipe. I'm like, well, you know.
Rich Vos
You know.
Joe Rogan
You know. What were you smoking? That wasn't crack? That's almost crazier, you know.
Rich Vos
Oh, really? You smoke tobacco out of a glass pipe?
Joe Rogan
One of my favorites is when he was running for reelection, which he eventually won after he got out of jail. They asked these people, do you have a problem with the fact that the mayor used to smoke crack? They interviewed this guy on the street. He goes, oh, everybody smoke a little crack every now and then. I was like, oh, this conversation's over. This conversation's over.
Rich Vos
That's. It's. I remember the times. And I was in there one time. Pete Rose, Bobby Kelly, Ricky Gervais. Right? And Pete Rose called me. He goes, you look like some rat face soccer player. Whatever. He said it was very funny. Whatever. Pete Rose. It was very funny. So I walk over to Bobby, then I walk past Bobby, and I walk past Pete Rose and I sit down and Pete Rose says, why are you out of breath? I go, because I had to walk around you two fat. Right? But. And so they spot. But you could say anything you wanted on that show.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
And it didn't. It.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Because I never went on it until it went to xm. You know, I was never on it with Noron Terrestrial radio when they got. They got kicked off terrestrial radio and then they got on xm. And when they were on xm, it was wild. They were. It was like the first time. It's like there was Howard when Howard got on XM or Sirius, I guess.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
First before they merged, and then the Ona show was on X. I'm like, this is crazy. This is crazy. This was like, what Rate. This is basically green room talk. Green room talk for the whole world.
Rich Vos
Well, okay, so I brought Patrice into ona.
Joe Rogan
Did you really?
Rich Vos
Yeah, I brought him in.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Rich Vos
He fucking smashed me the day I walked him in. Because we went to the back. We went through this way that he goes, what do you think? This is good, fellas. You walked me through the back. You couldn't take me through the front door. So he became a fixture on it. So one day we're in Ona, and I'm driving this little Porsche Boxster. He's driving this big Escalade because, you know, he's a, you know, buffet molester, and he's in this. So he's saying he's trashing one of my Rolexes, going, you're a selfish douchebag driving a Porsche to me, going, yeah, so you can't have people, you know? And I'm not thinking, well, maybe if you didn't eat pound cake or whatever, you wouldn't eat a big ass. But he's beat me down bad. I mean, fucking killing me. I'm speechless, right? Speechless. He's fucking just pounding me. And I walk out of there. So the Next day or two days later, I go online and he's trashing my car. I look at the price of my car new and the price of his car and I send it to him. I go, look, my shitty car costs more than your car new. And he calls me, he goes, you're still thinking about this? He goes, really?
Joe Rogan
You're thinking about it right now?
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
Still to this day you're arguing with him.
Rich Vos
I should have. We would. I would drive him home. One night I was driving him back to Jersey City and I got to go to the bathroom and we're walking up to his house and he says, oh man, I don't have a manager. An aged in. Nothing's going on. I go, I can't get work. I don't have an agent either. Nothing. And we just both started cracking up and walking. It was the funniest thing we. It I can. We were. We were reading for the head of a sitcom for abc, me and Patrice, we were going to be the leads of this sitcom. So we go into the head of casting at Marcy Phillips and he doesn't want to be there and I can't act. So basically I'm not a good. And at the time. So he won't take his face out of the copy and I'm trying to read with him the scene and he won't look at me. And Marcy Phillips is yelling at me going, what are you doing? I go, this fucking guy won't connect with me. How can I act with somebody that won't look at me? And she goes, can you two please leave? We laughed all the way down the hallway, we laughed. We just got kicked out of an audition as the leads of sitcom and we just cracked up all the way because it just to us was the funniest. Well, also being funny in the moment.
Joe Rogan
The idea of you getting a sitcom was so unlikely. It was always all so unlikely that when it failed, like if you want an audition and fucked up, like, yeah, it wasn't gonna happen anyway. You never thought this is going to be it.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Never once? No, never.
Joe Rogan
Never.
Rich Vos
I walked out of. I walked out of an audition once. I just got back from Aspen. I had a lot of heat in Aspen, but I. This is when my anxiety. I have. I've had anxiety my whole life. 21. I was hospitalized for anxiety when I was trying and they didn't know what it was. They thought you were just nuts and gave you you Thorzine and Haldol and you shuffled around like a crazy man.
Joe Rogan
This is so Explain to me what it feels like. What is this anxiety like?
Rich Vos
Well, that you now, when I had it hospitalized, when I had it bad, well, I felt so disconnected that even when I talked, it felt. Felt like an echo. Almost like I was outside of myself.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
Like if I look in the mirror, I'm going, who am I looking at? It was just so. So disconnected. Did.
Joe Rogan
And you were 21.
Rich Vos
Yeah, 21. Smoking pot and stuff.
Joe Rogan
Oh, that's it?
Rich Vos
Well, some of it was probably, where am I going in life? What am I doing?
Joe Rogan
And you're getting high and I'm getting, you know, if you're freaking out and you get high.
Rich Vos
Yeah. You know.
Joe Rogan
So you have to pee right now?
Rich Vos
No. Why do you.
Joe Rogan
Because you said you have to go to the bathroom. You were talking about your story then. Okay, Because I was, like, preparing to, like, cut it off and let you.
Rich Vos
Go to the bathroom. No, this is the best day, okay? Except for the fucking map.
Joe Rogan
The map turned out great.
Rich Vos
It turned out a good little conversation I got, you know, I had to talk. Thank God it's Monday. Thursday. The Thursday ones are so much better. I'm Monday. So my anxiety. Wait, what was. What did it feel like? Or what?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, what was like when you say overwhelmed you to the point you had to go to a hospital, Was your heart beating?
Rich Vos
I was just. I didn't know what was going on. It turned into panic or whatever. Like, I was so up. My friends, you know, I was going. I was selling meat and seafood out of a car, out of a truck. Some businesses back then. I went in this therapist, I go, help me. I'll give you some free steaks and seafood. And I was just out of my mind. And I get anxiety talking about it. It really gives you a little answer. So my friends go, let's take him to Florida. He needs a vacation. We drove to Florida. I was there for a day. I said, I got to get the out of here. Take me home. And we drove there and drove back. Then I checked into the hospital, the fifth floor, basically for fucking cuckoos. Cuckoos. Because they really didn't know what anxiety was back then.
Joe Rogan
Isn't that crazy? Because that's not that long ago in human history.
Rich Vos
Well, I mean, it was 40 something years ago.
Joe Rogan
Nuts. Just like in the last 40 years, how much they've learned.
Rich Vos
Well, yeah, but also, too. It's easier to say he. That person's nuts. Give him Thor, Dean, Thorazine, Hald, or whatever antipsychotic drugs are. And. And I swear to God, you know, my day Was. And then I would shuffle. I would shuffle around the. The floor with this girl. We just. I mean this one girl we shuffled. My friends came up to see me and I'm like, I can't see you today. We're going for a walk. You know, I was like one flew to Cougar. I was out of my mind.
Joe Rogan
So that could have been you for the rest of your life.
Rich Vos
Oh, Jesus. So I know well, because I did do acid in my day and people sometimes do that shit. Never come back. Never come back. And I saw that on Dragnet. So it's in real life. Yeah, it is real.
Joe Rogan
Stearns talked about that he did a big dose of acid once and he was up for a long time.
Rich Vos
It'll you up.
Joe Rogan
There's a guy from Pink Floyd that disappeared.
Rich Vos
Oh, I hope it's Roger.
Joe Rogan
No. How dare you?
Rich Vos
How dare I?
Joe Rogan
How dare you? What's his name again? Shine on, you crazy, crazy diamond.
Rich Vos
Oh, you mean he did ask and just.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's not just one person. There's been a lot of people that had an acid trip and just never.
Rich Vos
Yeah, brother did it. When we were doing it, he was really young. He was having a bad trip and I had to babysit him the whole day.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's fucking scary. Yeah, that's it. David Gilmore. So written by David Gilmore. But it's not. It's about. Who was it about? Sid Barrett. That's right. Sid Barrett did acid. Went crazy. See right there. Departed from the band in 1968 after dealing with the mental health problems and substance abuse. The story is he never came back.
Rich Vos
It's crazy how. How that's the most. That drug is so uncontrollable.
Joe Rogan
Well, also you like what's the dose? An effective dose is a droplet on your tongue, which is crazy.
Rich Vos
Well, we were doing blotter or window pane. Four way window pane.
Joe Rogan
They're not making in the same labs or they're making Tylenol. You know, they make it in some grateful basement also.
Rich Vos
Oh, too much goes into that drop. So I got out of the hospital and for years, I don't know, however long it took, it passed. Life started getting better, whatever, okay then. And I would get anxiety, it would come and go. But back then I didn't know what it was. It turned into panic. And so then when I was 40, I would watch my kids. After I got divorced, I would have my kids every day. I would work nights and I watched my. I guess 4 and 6 year old. My wife would either drop them Off. Or I would pick them up, then drop them off. I would have them in the days. My day was, my kids, whatever, Go to the park, do this, do that. Just watch my kid. So then they went off to school full time, you know, nursery, first grade. So now I'm at 40 years old, living in some fucking third floor apartment, divorced from my first wife, bouncing off of fucking walls again. I mean, 40 years old. No, just. I'm. I'm going. I got a quick comedy. I got to go into the psych ward. I'm up. This is up. So I found this therapist who was also. And I was already sober. I found this therapist that was in recovery, and he basically brought me back, you know, some medication through his partner who was a psychiatrist. He was a therapist. Great. I could talk, I could say anything to him, whatever, you know, and then it just got better. And then I realized and worked, knowing whatever anxiety I feel, it'll pass. Nothing lasts forever. It'll pass. Like, I had a little anxiety for the last week thinking about this. I go, what? You know, a little bit, because. And we're friends and I've done podcasts, and what? Bonnie goes, shut up and be funny. Be whatever. You know, a million things went through my head because, I mean, you've had Trump on Elon. You know what I mean? And. And that's my low self esteem, because, of course, I should be doing everything in my mind. Do you see what I'm saying? Does that make sense? But even when I did Tough Crowd, I was on 30 times. Every episode I had anxiety till it started. Every special or everything I've ever done, anxiety for the first second I walk out, boom, gone. All right? It's just.
Joe Rogan
Well, that's because you care. What you're calling anxiety is just nerves.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Let's see. When. Whenever there's. If you're doing something that's difficult or something that's important to you, you're gonna have nerves. That's normal. It's healthy. That shows you're challenging yourself, which is.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
One of the most important things you can do in life to stay vibrant. Yeah. You have to challenge yourself.
Rich Vos
When I did the trump, when we roasted Trump, this was a Friar's roast, right. It wasn't. It's when they broke away from Commie Central. Right? They broke away. So it's at Hilton In New York, 2,000 people. Anybody that meant anything in New York, from club owners, agents, managers, celebrities, they were all there. So the first act goes up. This guy, Stewie Stone, old time Catskill Come. He kills like no one I ever seen kill on a roast. You trump your casinos. Fuck you. Fuck. Just fucking slaughtered, right? And I'm sitting on the dais. I'm sitting next to Isaac Hayes. Opie and Anthony are there. My father, his wife Bonnie, before I married her. And. And he. I go, I'm gonna end my career. I go, I'm gonna end my career here. Okay. Then Susie Essman goes up, slaughters. Slaughters. I guess Amorous wrote her some funny jokes, and she. And she's great at roast. And I was ready to sneak off the fucking. Just leave. I go, it might be better if I leave than go up. Well, then Belzer went up, so.
Joe Rogan
Took a little wind out of the room.
Rich Vos
Took a little, you know.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
So Regis Philman was the host. It was three weeks after Ronnie Dangerfield died. Three weeks. They introduced me. I go, big hand for Regis. Originally, they asked Rodney to host, but he said he'd rather be dead. Zero. Almost zero, really. Right. But I got him. I go, don't with me. I'll bring Belzer back. Right? I had. And then Al Sharpton was sitting on the dais. I can't believe I said this, but back then, it was okay. He wasn't roasting, but he was on the dais. And that's when he was running for president. And I said, the only way you'll get on the White House property is with a lantern in your hand. I said to him, so fuck him. I didn't care. And then I got him back. Three of the jokes that I said were the ones that were printed in this. In. In the newspapers. You know the one I did? I go, trump. The reason Trump puts his names on his buildings is so the banks know which ones to take back. And that was 20 years ago. But it was the most terrifying moment. Wanted next to doing Def Jam as the first white guy was one of the most terrifying moments in my. I mean, I'm going. I'm going to end my career. But Def Jam, you know, Def Jam was on for five years, the number one show on hbo. Okay, we're gonna use a white guy. It's me, right? So now I got white comics. You better be funny. I have black.
Joe Rogan
White comics are saying that to you.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Which ones? I. I Want to know.
Rich Vos
27 year, 20 years ago, the white comics that were doing black rooms, you know what I mean? Then it was black comics mad that I'm doing it and they're not. You know what I mean? So they're taping In New York, every five nights. This is funny. Five nights.
Joe Rogan
Was that when they were filming in Harlem?
Rich Vos
It was. It could have. I don't know. It was in New York, five nights at some theater.
Joe Rogan
Okay.
Rich Vos
And it was the year I did it, the fifth year, when they had a different guest host every night. Like Martin Lawrence wasn't one night, one show. Chris Rock, Chappelle, Jamie Foxx, and Steve. What's his name? Harvey was my host, you know, so I'm going every night. I mean, I wait one night. And it was. This is so funny. Like, guy. Guy Tory would come out and do the warm up, and he would say, listen, this is not the Apollo. There's no booing here. This is hbo. We don't boo. Right? This is. This is a whole nother level that we don't want to hear any boo. So this comic comes out, he walks out, and with a black audience, if you're wearing the wrong sneakers, you're in trouble. Believe me, I used to do a lot of, you know, he comes out in, like, Reebok's. He's wearing an all gold suit. And his first joke in New York is, I just want to say, I'm not from New York. I'm from Canada, right? Oh, no, he's bombing so bad. And when a black audience can't boo you, all you heard in the room was, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm, child. It was brutal. So I'm like, now they tape five nights, two shows a night. I'm on the last night, second show, and I go second to last. Now all the comics that were still in town, that were the celebrity hosts, all the. We're at the tape and I'm going, this is one of the scariest moments of my life. I mean, you know, no white guy, Steve Harvey brings me out. He goes, well, our next act is something we haven't seen or special, whatever. And Russell made me wear his clothing. I got fat farm on and these baggy pants, you know, And I look back on it because it was 25 years, it would be different. I was. I pandered a lot to some extent. You know what I mean?
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
I did grow up in that neighborhood. But I'm out like this, you know. You know, right? And it. It worked out luckily, but I look back and go, I would never do that now from 25 years ago, the pandering and. And yo, you know, just. Just, you know, talking like I'm from the hood. And, you know, and I had a good set. It worked out. But it was the second scariest moment in my career.
Joe Rogan
But listen to what you just said. Both scariest moments of your career worked out great.
Rich Vos
Yes, they always. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
So wouldn't that eventually build some confidence?
Rich Vos
Oh, I have confidence.
Joe Rogan
Okay. It doesn't sound like it.
Rich Vos
Oh, no, I'm just telling you. Scary moments. Listen, you always gotta question yourself in this business because you want to get better. You want to. You just. I don't know, I question myself. I go, I have not. Again, not an ego. I have a reputation to live up to of the stuff I've done in this business.
Joe Rogan
Right?
Rich Vos
So I. I come out and people are going, look, Bobby. Bobby and Keith, we're at the Cellar one night. I go, I got a spot at the Underground. They go, we're gonna come over and watch you bomb.
Joe Rogan
That sounds like Keith.
Rich Vos
Keith and Bobby, right? So. So Nikki. Nikki Glazers on killing. Killing. Not the cleanest, but funny. I don't give a fuck what somebody. She's funny and she was killing. So I went on and my first two jokes I had, they killed. And I go, see Bobby, see Keith. I can follow anybody.
Joe Rogan
Right, Right.
Rich Vos
Well, then, I didn't know this. They went into the back corners of the room and after every joke they would go, oh. And they had the whole audience turn on me going, what's going on? I would say a joke that might have been a little edgier, and they would go, oh, real loud. The whole audience is going, what's this guy doing up there? They're groaning. One table goes, what's going on here? And I'm fucking bombing now because these two fucking jamokes are in the back of the room going, oh, my God, it's so fucking funny.
Joe Rogan
Bobby and Keith, well, that was the culture. The culture of comic girls was like constant busting balls. Constant busting balls.
Rich Vos
Somebody would go on stage and we would all go downstairs and sit in, like, the front row and watch.
Joe Rogan
There's nothing worse you could do for a comic. Your friends sit in the front row and stare at you. You're like, what are you doing, man?
Rich Vos
When Kevin Hart was leaving New York to go to fucking la, he threw himself a little go away fucking show at Boston Comedy Club. You remember Boston Comedy Club?
Joe Rogan
Sure.
Rich Vos
So he's on stage pontificating, doing whatever, and I don't know why, but me, Keith and Patrice were in the back of the room and There was like 10 phone books back there. And he's up and we started throwing phone books at him.
Joe Rogan
Phone books?
Rich Vos
Yeah, they were just in the club from, I guess they were delivered there all these phone. And we're throwing phone books at Kevin Hart. And he says on intervals, he goes, I knew I was accepted when they were throwing phone books at me. I knew I was part of the crew, you know, but we were just heaving phone books at them like fucking three assholes in the back of the woods room. I mean, and we would just. It was just fun. It was probably the most fun I've had in comedy when we would just stand out. Me, Patrice, Keith and Norton told 3 and 4 in the morning in front of Boston, just trashing each other, just talking, just. You can't replicate that. It can't happen again. It was just so funny. Keith is. He's fun if you see him around, you know, or Norton or Bobby. But it was so much fun.
Joe Rogan
I heard Keith is killing it now, even with his strokes.
Rich Vos
His special. We were at the tape. And the fact that he didn't win an Emmy, it was so fucking good. His special. He painted a picture when he was taught. You could see everything he was saying. Him in the hospital, him with a stroke. It was so good. We walked. I walked out of here going, this is the best thing I've ever seen. It was so good.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Rich Vos
He was so good. You know, I don't know why he didn't. I mean, it's.
Joe Rogan
Who gives a. About that?
Rich Vos
Yes. Yeah. Everybody knows how good it was.
Joe Rogan
All those awards. Award shows for art, to me, are some of the most ridiculous things.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Really? How many albums? I don't even want to say her name. But they don't know. They don't know.
Joe Rogan
It doesn't matter.
Rich Vos
You're right, it doesn't.
Joe Rogan
It's just a industry way that they can celebrate each other. And then they put on a show and the show generates money and they make a bunch of money from the show, and then it becomes a thing they hold over your head. Maybe you can win a Grammy. Maybe you can win an Emmy. Maybe you can win a this. You got to be a part of the club. Like, look what happened to Chris. He wanted to be a part of that group doing the Oscars, and he gets smacked by Will Smith. They don't arrest him. And then 10 minutes later, or whatever it was, Will Smith's on stage, is receiving the Academy Award, and they give him a standing ovation, though. It's insanity. That just. That is Hollywood, that that shows you what these people are. To want their love and their respect is pointless.
Rich Vos
It's so true.
Joe Rogan
They don't even know what they like. They like what everybody. Everybody tells them to. Like they don't understand what their support. They don't. They. It's just a bunch of people wanting to be a part of the group that's the. In group. Like, what do we have to do? What I have to say, what do I have to agree with? That's all it is.
Rich Vos
Years ago. And it's true. If that was Chappelle, he wouldn't have smacked Chappelle because Chappelle's a little cut, a little bigger.
Joe Rogan
Well, I don't know. The whole thing was crazy.
Rich Vos
Yes.
Joe Rogan
One move, he does one move. Now everybody remembers nothing but that forever. But what I am legend Ali, all those different things he did that were awesome. Nobody cares anymore. He's like, that's the guy that's. Yeah, but you're. Every day he's got to wake up in the morning, go, go. That one thing. If he hadn't done that. If he just ate it. And by the way, not even bad jokes. Like the Mo GI Jane. Like, that's the most. That was a powerful movie. It was a great movie.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
A strong woman. Like, it's not even really an insult. It was just silly to smack a guy like that. And then that's your thing forever. People are going to remember that.
Rich Vos
Crazy. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Crazy blunders. You know, and that probably comes from not having anxiety, by the way. That comes from having too much confidence.
Rich Vos
Confidence. Too much.
Joe Rogan
Too much. Too much of a belief in yourself. Too much of a.
Rich Vos
Go.
Joe Rogan
Yes. In your own importance that you can interrupt this entire enormous award show, the biggest award show in the industry that you're set up to receive a fucking Academy Award in about an hour or whatever it was, you're going to go up there and smack a guy on. On tv. Why would you do that? Because he doesn't have that anxiety. So your anxiety shields you from doing some stupid. Yeah. The fear and the. Like, the insecurity sometimes is good. Sometimes it's good for you. Keep. Like the lack of insecurity could be.
Rich Vos
The worst thing if you're too cocky. Yeah, it's. Yeah. They say be humble. Be humble. You know, And I thought Chris handled it as well as he. What.
Joe Rogan
What can he do?
Rich Vos
What can.
Joe Rogan
What can he do? Other than.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Run off the stage.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Which he probably should have just walked off after he got smacked because. Try to keep going.
Rich Vos
Yeah, he's. I worked with him on both Oscars he hosted, and he is the nicest guy on the planet. If you. I guess if you're. I don't know just from working with him. Him, you know.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he's a very nice.
Rich Vos
He's a nice guy.
Joe Rogan
And also, he's harmless. Like, you can't smack a harmless person. That's crazy.
Rich Vos
Yes. I'll tell you what. If that was Tony, there would have been a fight. If that was Tony Rock, there would have been a fight.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, Tony went off on. On stage, like, right afterwards about it. Yeah. Tony's a different dude.
Rich Vos
But Chris, like, is like, almost.
Joe Rogan
If it was anybody but Chris, you know, I mean, you can't do that to anybody else. Else. It's crazy. If you did, the Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart would crack him. The whole thing is crazy. It was crazy. It didn't make any sense. It's like the guy's in some sort of a very bizarre relationship with his wife. And, you know, whatever internal conflicts, they have just manifested itself in a terrible decision that he made.
Rich Vos
If. If he would have. If he would have said that about my wife, I would have smacked her and said, laugh.
Joe Rogan
It's funny. Come on.
Rich Vos
Yes, she.
Joe Rogan
But, you know, not being able to take a joke is one of the worst qualities that people can have. Do you not want. Do you take yourself so seriously when someone says something funny, you can't laugh as well. That's crazy. You're missing out on laughs. You're missing out on. You are your own joy. Like, you should have joy about someone making fun of you. And you're great at that. You're great at that. It's one of the best things about you on O and A is that when they would crack on you, you would laugh.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Just. It's so important.
Rich Vos
Good jokes.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, we're funny.
Rich Vos
And if I was at times lucky enough to come back with something, then I would. If not, then I sucked it the last time. I did Kill Tony a couple weeks ago, and I told a joke, and Tony goes, that's the oldest joke in history. And I go, yeah, I wrote it. Right? So, okay, so shut the fuck up. But. But it was going. It was a great episode because he. With me, I took it well.
Joe Rogan
Kill Tony is one of the only places left where that kind of. With people is like, openly encouraged. That kind of with people is like. I mean, and Tony's the best roaster on the planet.
Rich Vos
He's quick.
Joe Rogan
He's.
Rich Vos
He's like Norton.
Joe Rogan
He's so quick. You think he just. Like Norton. He's so quick. You think he wrote it in advance?
Rich Vos
Yeah, he's off the cuff.
Joe Rogan
He does it all the time. He does it in the green room. He does it everywhere he goes.
Rich Vos
Well, but here's the thing, too. He's done that show for what, 10 years?
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
He's built that muscle in his head where boom.
Joe Rogan
Yep, yep.
Rich Vos
It's automatic that something's going to come back.
Joe Rogan
Well, when you host a show like that too, you understand the rhythm of the show, the beats of it.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like. And he's so good at letting other people shine, you know, that's. Yeah, he's really good at, like. He wants you to do well. He wants. He doesn't feel upstage if Shane comes on as Trump or. When Kyle was doing. Kyle did RFK Jr. And he also did Elon Musk and then who?
Rich Vos
Kyle Dunnigan.
Joe Rogan
Yes. Yeah.
Rich Vos
He's so good. Brilliant.
Joe Rogan
That guy is brilliant.
Rich Vos
So good.
Joe Rogan
He's so funny. He is so funny.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And then he had Adam ray, who did Dr. Phil was amazing. And Biden. It's crazy.
Rich Vos
I did show.
Joe Rogan
So good.
Rich Vos
I did Killed Tony twice with Adam Ray. And he's fun to be with one. They love him. Yeah, they love him. But he laughs and gives you your due to like. Yeah, I've done radio with Gervais. Gervais is a big laugher. If you say something funny.
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
He'll laugh and crack up. You know what I mean? And you got to have that even. It's just if it's funny, you know, they don't. They don't get jealous or get mad and go, I'm going to outdo that.
Joe Rogan
It.
Rich Vos
They laugh and.
Joe Rogan
Well, the people that do suck. No one. No one who does that is any good.
Rich Vos
What's that?
Joe Rogan
No one who does that is any good. No one's like, oh, gotta get. I gotta do better than him. Yeah.
Rich Vos
It's stupid.
Joe Rogan
You're missing out on the whole thing. Like, that's not what we're doing.
Rich Vos
Show. It's a show. It's. It's whatever.
Joe Rogan
Hey, I gotta piss. Let's come back. We'll come right back.
Rich Vos
So I heard. You heard the. The stem cell. I can't do stuff for a couple weeks.
Joe Rogan
You could do things.
Rich Vos
Golf?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Rich Vos
With a stem cell.
Joe Rogan
Yes, of course.
Rich Vos
If it gets shot into me Wednesday. What's tomorrow? Tuesday. I could play golf Thursday.
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
What about the bpc?
Joe Rogan
Yes.
Rich Vos
Oh, really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just can't lift heavy weights.
Rich Vos
Oh, I'm not gonna lift heavy weights.
Joe Rogan
That's all it is. Just don't tear it apart while it's building back up. That's the whole idea. Don't aggravate it while you're. Does that hurt when you do that?
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
Then don't worry about it.
Rich Vos
Not really.
Joe Rogan
Fine. No. Well, you should be doing rehabilitation. You should have already. I'm looking at your shoulders right now. They look. They fall apart on their own. You gotta. You gotta exercise. If you're having injuries with your shoulders and the muscles around them and people are telling you to strengthen them, you should listen to those people. They're right.
Rich Vos
Well, no, I. Listen. I went to physical therapy for my back and it. And it's working. What I.
Joe Rogan
So why wouldn't you do it for your shoulder?
Rich Vos
Because I was waiting to do this first.
Joe Rogan
That would help. All of it would help. Oh, the more muscles you have around your shoulder, the better it is.
Rich Vos
It was only two or three weeks ago he said, go to physical therapy. I go, well, he wanted to cut my shoulder. I said, I'm not cutting. And I'm gonna try the BPC and the stem cell.
Joe Rogan
So you can definitely heal soft tissue injuries without surgery. The real issue is when tendons are separated and they need to be re put back in place and reconnected. That's the real issue.
Rich Vos
Well, a lot of people tore rotator cups. Oh, yeah. Tear rotator.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I had a torn rotator cuff.
Rich Vos
I think I did it. I was doing upright rows with 50 pound kettlebells and I think that was too heavy or too much.
Joe Rogan
She got a trainer, Rich.
Rich Vos
Huh?
Joe Rogan
Get a trainer.
Rich Vos
I'm. I'm doing all right. I mean, I know how to work out.
Joe Rogan
No, but obviously you need some help. Nothing written. A little bit of help. Look, do you want to get better or not? Yes.
Rich Vos
Okay, you're saying get a trainer for my shoulder or for my shoulder?
Joe Rogan
For everything. For all of it. So someone show you how to do it right so you're not hurting yourself.
Rich Vos
Well, I think I'm doing triceps and biceps. Right. I know I am. I'm doing lasses. Right.
Joe Rogan
Show me the guns.
Rich Vos
Well, they're not.
Joe Rogan
Then how do you think you're doing them? Right?
Rich Vos
They're not bad.
Joe Rogan
That's ridiculous.
Rich Vos
What? Small?
Joe Rogan
It's tiny.
Rich Vos
Listen, it's there.
Joe Rogan
I mean, I can see it.
Rich Vos
It's hard.
Joe Rogan
Is it?
Rich Vos
My chest is nice. You want me to do my chest? You want to see my chest?
Joe Rogan
No, I'm good.
Rich Vos
Take my chest out.
Joe Rogan
No, no, no, no. There's no. No reason.
Rich Vos
My lats and traps are good. Okay, look, for almost 68, I think I look better than most people. I went to school with.
Joe Rogan
That's good.
Rich Vos
I think. I think. Look, I work out all the time, but I maintain, Okay. I maintain. I'm not.
Joe Rogan
I feel like a therapist. I feel like I'm helping you through your life.
Rich Vos
You are helping.
Joe Rogan
You got in here.
Rich Vos
You are helping.
Joe Rogan
I'm helping to guide you. No, get a professional that knows how to work out and build yourself back up to the point where you're not having these kind of injuries. Yeah. And rehabilitate it correctly. Like when they tell you to do. Do physical therapy in your shoulder. Do it.
Rich Vos
I'm gonna do it. I want.
Joe Rogan
You waited three weeks. You're 68. You only have a few years left.
Rich Vos
So then. What the.
Joe Rogan
Come on.
Rich Vos
We have a few years, so.
Joe Rogan
Well, do it. You want a few years left in working order.
Rich Vos
Listen, Bonnie.
Joe Rogan
I mean, you should listen to Bonnie.
Rich Vos
You're right. I'm gonna. Do you think I'm never going to get my arms bigger than that?
Joe Rogan
That's ridiculous. Of course you could.
Rich Vos
At 68, 100 arms bigger.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. 100%. Yeah. The reason why your arms exist at all is because your tissue is regenerating. Your tissue is. You're. You're healing and you're getting better.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You 100% can get stronger. 100%. No if, ands or buts about it.
Rich Vos
It.
Joe Rogan
You would get stronger.
Rich Vos
I have nice latches.
Joe Rogan
You could be 87.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Still get stronger. As long as you're alive, you can get stronger. Because if your heart beats, if your hormones work, if you can move around, that means your body can repair itself.
Rich Vos
Well, I. I won't do. What is it that gets you hard?
Joe Rogan
Viagra.
Rich Vos
No, no. Cialis Harm. No, not the drug that makes you. Yeah, Testosterone. What's it called? Testosterone.
Joe Rogan
You won't do that.
Rich Vos
Well, because it's makes. Leads to prostate cancer.
Joe Rogan
No, it doesn't.
Rich Vos
That's what my doctor.
Joe Rogan
Your doctor's wrong.
Rich Vos
He died.
Joe Rogan
That's. Incorrectly. Your doctor's an idiot.
Rich Vos
He died two years ago.
Joe Rogan
That idiot.
Rich Vos
He died.
Joe Rogan
No, he doesn't know that. He doesn't know the real studies. Like. Like there's a guy named Brigham Bueller who runs Ways too well, who could explain the flaws in that study that show that it gave people prostate cancer. Look, people get prostate cancer. Testosterone is not giving you prostate cancer. It's like, across the board, the same percentage of people that take testosterone or don't take testosterone get prostate cancer. There's probably a ton of variables. A lot of it has to do with diet. A lot of cancer has to do with diet. Diet fuel of cancer is sugar. Do you eat a lot of sugar?
Rich Vos
I stopped for a year. I'm back. I'm gonna get back on. I eat pretty good for the last month and a half. I haven't for the last and a lot for a year.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, there's environmental factors, there's genetic factors, a lot of different things, but, you know, if you want to take care of yourself, testosterone will actually make your body heal better. You'll feel better, you'll have more energy, your immune system will function better. Everything will work better. You should have your hormones balanced, like this is. We live in a time where you can get a full blood panel and find out where your nutrient levels are. And if you do it with a good doctor, what they'll do is they'll adjust your diet and your nutrients first and then see, like in a couple months what your levels are then. And then find out how much. Are you sleeping? Are you sleeping?
Rich Vos
Right?
Joe Rogan
Well, there's a problem there, because then your body's not recovering. So you've got to figure out a way to adjust something in your life to make you sleep better. And then after that, once they get everything all worked into its optimum rate, you're doing all the right things to go. What's. What are your levels now? Okay, well, add a little. Add a little bit of testosterone, peptides. That'll increase your body's ability to promote growth hormone. There's stuff like Samorelin. It makes your body produce more growth hormone. So, like, your body repairs itself better, like when you're younger, longer.
Rich Vos
It's.
Joe Rogan
There's all rigorous science behind all this stuff. It's all this many. I'll get Brigham to explain it to you. He'll do a much better job than me.
Rich Vos
Who's that guy tomorrow?
Joe Rogan
He's the guy who owns waste. Well, yeah, he's been on the podcast. He's testified in front of Congress.
Rich Vos
I'll bring the disc.
Joe Rogan
Bring the maps, too. He'll love the maps.
Rich Vos
Let me tell you something about these maps.
Joe Rogan
These maps.
Rich Vos
I printed this out.
Joe Rogan
I see.
Rich Vos
I.
Joe Rogan
Looks like your printer needs ink. Pretty dull.
Rich Vos
Listen to me. Listen to me. Fix your eyes. Let me work.
Joe Rogan
Pretty good.
Rich Vos
You want to see some other statistics I got? Oh, all right.
Joe Rogan
What else you got?
Rich Vos
No, I. I don't want to get.
Joe Rogan
Please don't. Those girls land today. The Blue Origin. They shot that metal dick up into space. People were mad. They wouldn't let the ladies drive. Perry and someone else. Katy Perry, Lauren Sanchez, Jeff Bezos. His wife. If. If that thing blew up and have just. Jeff Bezos's wife blew up with it. Twitter thinks that the capsule is too clean. They don't think it was real, Obviously. Of course, Twitter. Twitter doesn't think space is real. There's a whole community out there. Hashtag, space is fake. Yes. Oh, yeah. There's really people who think the Earth is flat and that there's a firmament. Look at that.
Rich Vos
They think birds aren't real.
Joe Rogan
Did they land? Is it over? Yeah, they did it. Yay. How they land in the ocean, on the desert.
Rich Vos
How do they land?
Joe Rogan
Parachutes. They land with parachutes. So the thing lands with a parachute. I'll show you video. Oh, yeah, let me see. I want to see the video. Oh, that's them in the middle of the desert. Wow. One second. That doesn't. It's got. It looks different than that. That has to be crazy, that. Would you do that, Rich? Would you go to space?
Rich Vos
Probably not. I don't need it.
Joe Rogan
You'd think you'd get anxiety if you.
Rich Vos
I don't even like Ferris Wheel. Else.
Joe Rogan
Well, those two Stigs are very different. Is that it?
Rich Vos
You know what?
Joe Rogan
Let's see the landing.
Rich Vos
Oh, of course.
Joe Rogan
People get their stuff in there.
Rich Vos
How. How long did they go for?
Joe Rogan
Very soft, soft landing. Look at this. Here it is. Imagine from space, and the only thing we got to land you is a parachute. Like one of the oldest technologies. Wow. You can hear him in there, blue eyes screaming. Wow.
Rich Vos
How long? How long were they up there?
Joe Rogan
I don't know.
Rich Vos
Not.
Joe Rogan
Isn't it funny that they screamed? Do you think the men would scream like that? Would you? And ice cream like that if we landed?
Rich Vos
Well, I don't know about you, but I know me.
Joe Rogan
Look at that one. No, look at. They go back. The one below it.
Rich Vos
I'll tell you what I'll never do is clap when a pilot lands.
Joe Rogan
You don't do that.
Rich Vos
That's his fucking job.
Joe Rogan
It's true. What if it's a female pilot?
Rich Vos
You're like, phew, I wouldn't have got on the plane. No.
Joe Rogan
There was a bunch of them in a row where I was like, jesus Christ. The Delta one in Canada where it flipped upside down.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Can you imagine?
Joe Rogan
The lady just started landing planes recently. Like, yeah, take that one out in the icy Runway.
Rich Vos
Here's 30,000. No, I'll wait for the loss.
Joe Rogan
Blue Origin declined to say how much the flight cost or who paid for it. Trip came two months before Sanchez and Bezos to marry in Venice. Oh, they're going to marry in Venice in two months. Oh, they haven't married yet. Okay. I thought they were married. That's hilarious. They're going to do it in Venice. Oh, how beautiful and romantic.
Rich Vos
Wow.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, quit. You can't tell people how much it costs because then there's going to be retards like that. Money could have housed so many houseless, so many unhoused could have benefited. How many poor people? There's like these, like, if Elon Musk gave a million dollars to everyone on Earth, he'd have money left over. There's all these mathematicians out there that are constantly want to comment on other people's money and how convenient.
Rich Vos
And now. And those people would up that money too.
Joe Rogan
You know, it's all the rich people or the problem. Not me. I'm rich, but I'm not as rich as the richest people. So everybody richer than me is a problem.
Rich Vos
Ah, fucking house chip.
Joe Rogan
All these people. All these fucking people. Yes, I own three homes, but I'm a United States senator and I would do. I'm worth millions and millions of dollars. But everyone richer than me is the problem. It's the rich, rich, rich people, not the regular, regular rich.
Rich Vos
Oh, that tour.
Joe Rogan
There's so many.
Rich Vos
Him and AOC wondering, yeah, tax the rich.
Joe Rogan
Remember she had that dress you wore? Tax the rich. How about off? What are you going to do with the taxes? That's the problem when. When Doge is uncovering $250 million that was spent on animal transgender studies, where you're chopping the dicks of mice and turning them into. Off. Off with your Tax the rich. How about you fix the world without taxing the out of everybody?
Rich Vos
How about, yeah, get rid of that.
Joe Rogan
There's other ways.
Rich Vos
I can't even tell you what I sent the other day to the irs. It just fucking. And I'm, you know, just a regular fucking, you know, so much money.
Joe Rogan
I'm like, well, they're complaining about Elon. Elon doesn't pay taxes. Elon paid more taxes last year than any human being that has ever walked the face of this nation. That's a fact. So shut the up. It's like, there's never. It's never enough. And people that don't have always look at people that do have. Like you.
Rich Vos
Well, you could do with that money.
Joe Rogan
Well, you could do with your money. You one. One percent in the world. You know what it is? If you're a 1 percenter in the world, you know what it is? $34,000 a year?
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
Yes. If you make 34,000American dollars a year, you are in the top, top 1% of planet Earth.
Rich Vos
Get the out. That's a fact. Oh, well, because you're comparing it to.
Joe Rogan
The rest of the world.
Rich Vos
All of the planet. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
The whole. Of course, most people are dirt poor. Most people. So all this about when he could do that money. Well, you're saying that from your Manhattan apartment while you're Ubering all over the place and getting takeout. Shut your mouth.
Rich Vos
Listen, when I was in Cabo working there, it was amazing. You drive to the airport, people are living in shacks there. It's.
Joe Rogan
It's horrible.
Rich Vos
It's horrible. But look, and it's. This sounds narcissistic. I came from a major, major drug addict, and I turned my life around. It's. It's all. You got to find a way to do what you can for yourself. I don't give a fuck where you are. I grew up with dudes from heroin addicts to people with five kids at fucking 22 or whatever. And a lot of people made it out of there and found a way to be successful.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you can look at it that way. But the point is, like, looking at people that are uber successful and telling them what they should do with their money is just the dumb it. And that's why I don't want to give out how much money it costs to fly this rocket ship into space. Of course it's frivolous and gratuitous. Of course, it's a publicity stunt. They had a bunch of hot ladies, they flew them off into space, and then they landed. Yay. Now you've been to space, but basically you're in space for, like, 10 minutes. That's what the flight was. It probably cost a billion dollars to fly people into space for 10 minutes.
Rich Vos
Wow. How many fucking clubs you could have bought me.
Joe Rogan
How many golf clubs? That's your thing, right? You're just a inveterate golfer. Right.
Rich Vos
I love golf.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Jamie should show you his setup back there. Yeah, he's got a driving computer with a big screen. I have.
Rich Vos
I, I was hitting in. In this morning. Into the screen. I, I.
Joe Rogan
You bring a screen with you?
Rich Vos
Which one? At the hotel.
Joe Rogan
Really?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, it's a Thompson. I went down, worked out twice, Were staying. No, I, I'm not staying. I went, walked over there.
Joe Rogan
Oh.
Rich Vos
And used her screen.
Joe Rogan
Really?
Rich Vos
Yeah. No, Yeah, I brought my clubs. Yeah. And plus, this isn't live.
Joe Rogan
You and Jamie should have a little Driving contest.
Rich Vos
I think Jake played before I played.
Joe Rogan
With him and Tony.
Rich Vos
Before we played together.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Like two years ago.
Rich Vos
Oh, with me, you and Tony, right?
Joe Rogan
Yep. Oh, you won't.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
How good do you play? How good is it, Jamie? I don't recall. I mean, I'm not good either, so it probably.
Rich Vos
I shoot anywhere from 82 to. I want to break a club.
Joe Rogan
I don't know what any of those numbers.
Rich Vos
82 is pretty good sometimes. I've shot in the 70s.
Joe Rogan
How is it?
Rich Vos
I know.
Joe Rogan
Pretty good. Yeah. Very good. Pretty good.
Rich Vos
I shot. I played 18 holes, but yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
When I was a kid, the guys who golfed all the time were the guys who weren't paying as much attention to their career. I remember thinking, like, a lot of these guys are kind of stagnant because they're golfing all day.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
They were gone in Boston. Those guys would golf all day long, get hammered.
Rich Vos
That you grew up with?
Joe Rogan
No, guys that I started out with. The golfers all wound up spending so much time playing golf, I thought it was like, wow, that's a big distraction. You should have some activities. But golf is like, it. How many hours?
Rich Vos
Four and a half.
Joe Rogan
That's a lot of hours.
Rich Vos
It's a lot of hours. But also too. It makes you disconnect from the. All the. That's going on in life, you know, you don't have to deal with whatever.
Joe Rogan
You know, you golf with comics too, so you get some.
Rich Vos
Com. Yeah, I think I'm in golf if I can, after I get these shots Thursday with Aaron Berg. I think I'm gonna golf.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you definitely can. You could golf on Thursday for sure. It's. Golfing is not gonna it up. It'll be sore for a day or two after you get the injection directions.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You'll be fine. We're gonna clean you up, Rich Foss. Clean up your life.
Rich Vos
Thank you. I.
Joe Rogan
We're gonna do it. Check in with me. I'll tell you what to do.
Rich Vos
I look, I'll show you my chest.
Joe Rogan
Don't do it.
Rich Vos
I'll show you a picture.
Joe Rogan
I don't care.
Rich Vos
So you're saying from here on.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
You're not saying what.
Joe Rogan
What are you gonna. You gonna impress me with your chest? That's crazy.
Rich Vos
Well, you say I got small arms. I gotta say.
Joe Rogan
Well, you're telling me they're big.
Rich Vos
I never once said, good.
Joe Rogan
Your triceps and your biceps are good. That's crazy.
Rich Vos
Oh, listen, let me explain something to you, okay? Waffle neck. Waffle neck.
Joe Rogan
Is that Bad.
Rich Vos
No, I call my kids that.
Joe Rogan
What does waffle neck mean?
Rich Vos
I call them chicken head. Okay, you're right. They're not big, but they're hard. Okay. And they're not flabby.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rich Vos
Okay. I'm not. I'm not some flabby.
Joe Rogan
Congratulations.
Rich Vos
What the fuck?
Joe Rogan
You want credit for being okay?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
That's crazy.
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
Whatever happened to mister, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, get your shit together. What about all that talk that's. Hey, barely doing anything. You're like, You're. Okay.
Rich Vos
I work out six days a week. I lift.
Joe Rogan
Do you?
Rich Vos
Yes. I have a nice gym in my basement.
Joe Rogan
Do you think if I worked out with you, I'd be impressed at the effort that you put?
Rich Vos
Not in the least I could do. I do 500 crunches.
Joe Rogan
That's amazing. I do zero. I don't do any crunches.
Rich Vos
What do you do, sit ups?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I do a lot of different stuff.
Rich Vos
Yes. Do you do planks?
Joe Rogan
No. I think planks are nonsense.
Rich Vos
So do I. They're uncomfortable.
Joe Rogan
It's hard to do. Don't get me wrong. But I think in terms of an exercise for your core, it's kind of nonsense. I think you should do things. First of all, you should almost always do things that have a range of motion. Like when you're. You're. I like to do things that make my body work as a unit. So all the ab exercises that I do, I do a lot of different things. For abs, I do reverse squats. You know what those are? You put your ankles. Strap your ankles to a cable machine, you lay on your back and you pull towards you.
Rich Vos
Oh, I know.
Joe Rogan
I do those.
Rich Vos
Well, I got one of those machines where I put my knees in it and I pull up to get the bottom.
Joe Rogan
Okay. Yeah, that's good.
Rich Vos
Those are good.
Joe Rogan
Sure.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, those are good. Anything where you work your whole core, you. And then you got to also do the opposite side. Back extend, extensions. You should have back expense.
Rich Vos
I do it on that thing I.
Joe Rogan
Showed you showing me.
Rich Vos
Yeah, I'll do back because. And I. I got to lose another ten pounds again. I gained it back, but it comes and go. And because I have lower disc problems and, you know, I'm getting sciatica, so whenever I lose weight, I'm in much better shape.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, I could tell by when we got on that stretching machine. The deck.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Your body doesn't go all the way down.
Rich Vos
It's tight.
Joe Rogan
Your lower back is very tight.
Rich Vos
Oh, I'll go in there right Now. And go all the way down. I was just doing it. Just.
Joe Rogan
No, I'm saying there's tension. Yeah, my body hinges. Yeah, my body just hinges. It just goes down there. There's no tension. Yours is like. You stop like right there. You probably could go all the way down, but your body doesn't want to. The point is there's tension in your lower back.
Rich Vos
Well, I've never used that machine too. It was my first time.
Joe Rogan
Excuses. Do you stretch? No.
Rich Vos
On stage, if they needed to do an extra 20, I've done it two hours. If D.L. hughley, and I'm middling and he's coming four hours late. Back in the day, I was working Caroline's and I opened for Deal and you know, I'm doing all my good stuff up front.
Joe Rogan
Oh, no.
Rich Vos
And then they stretch and they go stretch. I'm going, what am I going to do now? Right.
Joe Rogan
He wasn't there yet.
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
He was the worst feeling in the world.
Rich Vos
Walking in with you did all your.
Joe Rogan
Best material and they're telling you to stretch. Like, I don't have it. And you're just scouring your brain.
Rich Vos
You're scouring your brain.
Joe Rogan
Well, luckily for you, you could work the crowd.
Rich Vos
Yeah. So I. Now, what was the question? Am I doing? Do I stretch? Yeah, yeah, I do. For my back, I have this extra. I lie down.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
And I pull this back like that.
Joe Rogan
Okay.
Rich Vos
That's good for my lower back. You know what that is?
Joe Rogan
Do I know what it is?
Rich Vos
You know what I'm talking about?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're doing. Just crossing your legs and leaning forward. Yeah.
Rich Vos
And I pull it back.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
And then when I'm doing sit up crunches, I'll do it either on that machine or I'll pull my legs this way too. So I'm getting my lower.
Joe Rogan
Watch you move. I'm like, oh, my God.
Rich Vos
First of all, I know the crew you have come in here. A lot of them. None of them work out at all.
Joe Rogan
All right, A lot of them do. Who doesn't work out at all? Name one.
Rich Vos
No, I don't want.
Joe Rogan
Name a guy.
Rich Vos
Ari.
Joe Rogan
Ari doesn't work out at all.
Rich Vos
Okay, this one.
Joe Rogan
That's true.
Rich Vos
Mark Norman.
Joe Rogan
I don't know if Norman works.
Rich Vos
Look at him.
Joe Rogan
Mark Norman definitely works out.
Rich Vos
Oh, he does.
Joe Rogan
He runs. He can do a lot of pull.
Rich Vos
Ups and setups from audiences. He love. You know what? I like talking to Mark. He loves comedy.
Joe Rogan
Oh, he loves.
Rich Vos
And he knows the history of it. But he knows the history of it. Like, he, like, you'll talk to comics now and go, oh, Steve Landisburg was funny. Or just who was that?
Joe Rogan
Or look at him. Come on, man.
Rich Vos
Of course he's ripped.
Joe Rogan
He's ripped.
Rich Vos
I don't like.
Joe Rogan
How dare you that. Now you feel bad.
Rich Vos
Now I feel bad.
Joe Rogan
You build that, right?
Rich Vos
It hurts me to see that.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, you and he looks great. Oh, you're talking. He looks like a male model. Jamie.
Rich Vos
He's not holding up a newspaper. We don't know when that was shot.
Joe Rogan
Who cares when it was shot? You never looked like that.
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
What are you gonna do? You take your clothes off.
Rich Vos
No, I mean, look at the picture.
Joe Rogan
Look. He looks good there.
Rich Vos
Yeah, he does.
Joe Rogan
He looks good.
Rich Vos
So does his wife, God damn it.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, look at that right there. He's got boxing gloves on and an iPhone. He's in shape, man. You're incorrect.
Rich Vos
All right, relax.
Joe Rogan
Feel bad, right?
Rich Vos
No, I don't.
Joe Rogan
Shane works out. He's here all the time.
Rich Vos
This is not working out.
Joe Rogan
We work out.
Rich Vos
Shane works out.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he comes in, uses the gym. We work out together. We put your glasses so you can find your abs.
Rich Vos
All right, listen to me.
Joe Rogan
You are looking for your glasses. I'm gonna find a photo of you looking good. Yeah, forget about that. That's the past. Let's concentrate on now. Let's concentrate on. Put away the cookies, put away the sugar. Yeah, listen to your doctor. He tells you to rehab your shoulder, get yourself in shape. Can't believe we're doing this. You know, people are listening. They can't see this.
Rich Vos
I, I, they couldn't see the picture of him either.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, but I mean, this, you being on your phone here, looking for a photo of back in the day when you looked reasonable.
Rich Vos
This was recently.
Joe Rogan
How long ago? What happened?
Rich Vos
What happened? Oh. Oh, Jesus.
Joe Rogan
Look at you. They look good there.
Rich Vos
There you go.
Joe Rogan
Not bad.
Rich Vos
Okay.
Joe Rogan
You look pretty good right there. What happened?
Rich Vos
It's not that bad.
Joe Rogan
Now, how long ago was this? 2018. Oh, that's pretty recent. That's pretty recent.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Pre pandemic. A lot of people fell apart during the pandemic.
Rich Vos
That's what happened. And then I came back on track for a year, A whole year. And then, and then since January, when I was in Canada.
Joe Rogan
Oh, Canada. Did you.
Rich Vos
Canada.
Joe Rogan
Communism.
Rich Vos
Communism.
Joe Rogan
They made you eat poutine.
Rich Vos
Oh, that. Everybody's good.
Joe Rogan
Oh, it's so good. It's late night, late night, poutine just.
Rich Vos
It's just pure heart attack.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. They have different delis in Canada. Like, we Used to go to Montreal. Those. They call it smoked meat.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
It's basically like going to Cantors. Right. Or going to cats.
Rich Vos
I've been to a couple of those smoked meat.
Joe Rogan
Oh, phenomenal.
Rich Vos
But you know, if you. I heard and I know this is true, and I. If you eat too much smoked meat, you can get stomach cancer from that. From all that smoked meat.
Joe Rogan
Who told you that?
Rich Vos
This guy with stomach cancer. No, not true.
Joe Rogan
Smoked meat is not what it is. There is some connection between burnt meat, like the carbon in burnt meat, and cancer. I think it's colorectal cancer. But I do not know how robust those studies are. I mean, people have been cooking over fire forever. I just don't. I don't buy it. There's a lot of bullshit involved in these studies that tell you that this causes cancer. That causes cancer. Here's what 100% causes cancer. Herbicides, pesticides, chemicals. Forever. Chemicals that are in your food. That. That paper cup that you're drinking out of. When you drink hot liquids out of a paper cup, we got to throw those paper cups. We have. Have you seen what Paul Saladino did where he dissolved a Starbucks cup and shows you what's really at the base of it? It's basically a condom inside. See if you can find Paul Saladino.
Rich Vos
Wait, you got all those paper cups. I'll take them.
Joe Rogan
I know. I saw them today. Poured my coffee in this. We're going to get rid of all our paper cups.
Rich Vos
I'll take them.
Joe Rogan
Paper cups for hot liquids are stupid, really. The. The lining of those paper cups is plastic. So you're basically pouring hot liquid into plastic, which is the worst. Okay, like, look at. See, he shows. So he's dissolving the paper cup and that's what's inside of it. So you think you're drinking out of a paper cup, but it's not really paper. It's plastic. It's. There's a plastic lining. And that's the only reason why those coffee cups from Starbucks hold paper. So hot water to plastic. Give me some volume on this. Chemicals, pfas. Anything in that plastic is leaching.
Rich Vos
Yeah, my wife.
Joe Rogan
To your drink and leaching into your coffee drink. So do not think you're getting a paper cup. You are getting a plastic cup and you are putting hot water into it. That's a horrible, horrible idea. Look at that. Looks like a condom. What's the solution? Glass jar. Get your coffee in a glass jar or stainless steel mug. Since simple solution. Don't expose hot liquids to plastic like this. Horrible idea for your hormones. Horrible for your body. Send this to somebody, you know who drinks hot coffee out of paper cups like this and needs to get them out of glass or stainless steel. You think this is. Yeah, there you go.
Rich Vos
My wife, she won't drink out. She knows all this. She's. She's a reader.
Joe Rogan
You should listen to Bonnie.
Rich Vos
I try to. She meditates. She's really good. You know, she's smart, which is weird.
Joe Rogan
You guys together. That. It works.
Rich Vos
It's.
Joe Rogan
It's crazy.
Rich Vos
It's like. It's like. You know what? I. Here's the deal. What. What month? What are we at? April. April.
Joe Rogan
April 15th. 14th. 14th.
Rich Vos
April 14th. So let's go. April 14th made. June 30th. I'm back here at the club on my birthday.
Joe Rogan
Okay, so you're gonna look good.
Rich Vos
I'll look. I'll look.
Joe Rogan
All right. I'm gonna go to June 3rd. We'll take a picture. I'll put it on my Instagram. Take your shirt off. Flex.
Rich Vos
Not now.
Joe Rogan
No. June 30th, okay? We're giving you time.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
I want to give you a goal.
Rich Vos
June 30th. Is that enough? Yeah, sure.
Joe Rogan
Absolutely.
Rich Vos
Two months.
Joe Rogan
Yes. In two months, you can lose 20 pounds of fat and look great. All right? Just eat healthy. Just get on a very low carbohydrate diet.
Rich Vos
That's what I did. I'm not doing keto. I'm not gay, but I went. Okay, a little. I. When I try to cut carbs. Let me tell you something. It was easier for me to quit crack than it was carbs.
Joe Rogan
Really?
Rich Vos
Well, I never gave anybody a hand job for a Kaiser roll, so. Part of my act. Folks, he's killing June 30th the week I'm here.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
I don't know how much bigger my arms will be.
Joe Rogan
You don't have to.
Rich Vos
I'll just be.
Joe Rogan
Just.
Rich Vos
Just be a more cut.
Joe Rogan
You look good.
Rich Vos
But I think I look okay.
Joe Rogan
Well, we're gonna get you a blood panel tomor. Find out where your hormone levels are at. Find out what the. Is wrong with you.
Rich Vos
What do you mean? All that blood panel.
Joe Rogan
They'll draw blood. They'll draw blood and then send it to a lab.
Rich Vos
They're not going to tell me I have cancer.
Joe Rogan
They could if you want to know. No, you don't want to know.
Rich Vos
I already had blood tests at my doctor's office.
Joe Rogan
Does your blood. Did your doctor do a comprehensive cancer scan?
Rich Vos
Did prostate.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. Just looked in your. That's all they did.
Rich Vos
No. With the blood, and I looked at my sugar level.
Joe Rogan
They can do this incredibly comprehensive blood panel. They draw. They dig a lot of blood out, and then they send it to a lab and they find out whether or not you have. I have zero cancer. I was super happy because when they did it, I was like, oh, I have the same feeling. I don't know if I want to know this.
Rich Vos
It's a scare waiting for.
Joe Rogan
Start thinking about it and start mind yourself laying in bed at night. Like, what if I have it right now? What if I find out tomorrow? I have four weeks to live?
Rich Vos
Too much anxiety. I. When I went back in the day, everybody, like, went for the AIDS test. After you got. Oh, I remember that.
Joe Rogan
I remember my first AIDS test.
Rich Vos
So I got my aids.
Joe Rogan
So scared.
Rich Vos
Okay, this is true. My doctor. Whenever I went to my doctor and took any test, he would call me and say, everything's fine. There were calls. Everything's fine.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
So I took an AIDS test.
Joe Rogan
Doctor didn't call you?
Rich Vos
And I get a call from the doctor, and he said, can you come in tomorrow? I'm going, what do you mean, come in tomorrow? My heart dropped because he would have said, everything's fine. I go, what do you mean? Why do you want me to come in tomorrow? He goes, your tooth came in, and we want to put your tooth. It was my dentist, but I heard doctor. I thought it was my real doctor telling me I have fucking aids, you know, because everybody took that test in the.
Joe Rogan
In the 80s when I first got. Got insurance. I had to get an AIDS test in the 90s. And I remember the doctor, I said, boy, I'm real nervous about this. And the doc said, are you gay? I said, no. He goes, do you do drugs? I go, no. He goes, don't worry about it. You don't have it. I go, really? He goes, yeah. I go, what the butter? About the news.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
The news is freaking me out, where I'm scared to touch doorknobs. Like, how come. How come the news is saying that everybody's gonna get aces? Listen, no one's getting it other than gay people and people who are interviewed. Intervenous drug users.
Rich Vos
Well, people on my block were dropped. We went to see peewee in a hospital, and all the nurses were wearing masks. So we go, I think he has that thing. Nobody even knew what the fuck, you know?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, they thought it was contagious. By the way, that was Fauci, too, back then. Yeah. Who's responsible for all that? Fauci was responsible for people freaking out about AIDS. Fauci was on TV back in the 80s telling people that children could possibly catch it from people. Yes. Yeah. Do you know the Dallas buyers Club where they were limiting the medication that gay people could take? That was about Fauci. He was responsible for that. He was the one who pushed AZT on people back then. AZT was that chemotherapy medication that was killing people quicker than the cancer was. They stopped using on cancer, and they repurposed it and started using it on people that had.
Rich Vos
And it. It didn't help you lose you dad.
Joe Rogan
They were giving it to people that didn't even have any symptoms. They had hiv. They had no symptoms. They'd given them azt. They were dying in months. Is the only time ever in medical history where they were telling you to take a chemotherapy drug indefinitely. Every time you take chemotherapy, the idea is that it gets your body close to death, but kills off the cancer. They were telling you to keep taking it, just keep taking it. It's nuts. What they did is madness. If you read Robert Kennedy's book, the real Anthony Fauci, it's all about that. And the beginning of it is all about the AIDS crisis and all the different things that they did that mirrors exactly what they did during the COVID crisis.
Rich Vos
So what drugs are they using now?
Joe Rogan
They started using protease inhibitors, and that really helped. Like, the whole AIDS thing is very complex. It's very complex because the vast majority of the people that got aids were. Were heavy drug users. Heavy drug users. Or gay guys. Guys who are experiencing, you know, a lot of different sexual partners, but it.
Rich Vos
Was because of blood being transferred.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, that's part of it. But it's also part of it. You're destroying your immune system with drugs. Like, these guys were taking amyl nitrate and crystal meth and partying and not sleeping, Just crushing their immune system.
Rich Vos
Plus sharing needles with the blood going from.
Joe Rogan
Yep, that too. And then they would get them on medication that would definitely kill them. And then it was a crisis. And then, you know, everybody was running around scared. And. And I was scared, too, until I talked to my doctor. He just looked me in the eyes. But no one could say that back then. So this is like 91, maybe. Maybe 91, 92. When I.
Rich Vos
Whenever.
Joe Rogan
And when I got. And my doctor was like, don't worry about it. I was like, what about the news, man? Like, I remember talking to this guy. He was a young guy. I was like, why is the news telling me I could get. He goes, heterosexuals aren't getting this.
Rich Vos
Well, I.
Joe Rogan
Unless you're an intervenous drug user, don't worry about it.
Rich Vos
I, I only checked because I shot dope like maybe three times.
Joe Rogan
What was it like?
Rich Vos
I didn't like it. It's just not, you know, I was more of a up, you know.
Joe Rogan
What did shooting dope do feel like? What it feel like?
Rich Vos
Just down and I, I can't. It wasn't. I did it with Bastille and he was amazing.
Joe Rogan
He was a major one. He was funny though. Frankie was funny. I remember seeing him for the first time when I was an open MICR in 88.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And he was just a wild dude. He was like one of the first guys ever saw with tattoos. All these tattoos and they're like, he does heroin, everybody.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, really? Heroin. When someone did heroin back there and it was crazy, like, what, he does heroin now? Think about how many people are hooked on opiates. Well, back then it was super rare.
Rich Vos
Well, the difference between heroin and like freebase, you can function on heroin. There's functioning heroin. Heroin addicts for years.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, do it.
Rich Vos
You can't function on free base or coke. You got to keep having it.
Joe Rogan
I had a buddy of mine who was a longshoreman and he would tell me that this guy he would work with, and not just one guy, but one guy that he was work with that he was a friend on his lunch break, get a bag of heroin, shoot it up in his car, sit there for half an hour and then go back to work. Yeah, crazy.
Rich Vos
You can't do that with freebase. It's non stop.
Joe Rogan
You gotta keep. So was that your thing? Free basin?
Rich Vos
Yeah, freebase, free. Crap.
Joe Rogan
When was it? How old were you when you first free based?
Rich Vos
Well, I. When I first got high, I was 15. You know, pot, I lead it led my way up to the gateway. Yeah, Coke and then.
Joe Rogan
So snorting coke.
Rich Vos
I snorted coke probably when I started when I was 18 or 19. Right.
Joe Rogan
And then when he was party crack.
Rich Vos
Crack, probably 25 to 28.
Joe Rogan
Do you remember the first time you did it?
Rich Vos
I think it was with my cousin. Yeah, it was like, I go, this is good. I mean, I guess there's one here. I'll tell you what. So I got so many of them. So my friend, I was on the road, I came back, he goes, look, I'm gonna buy an eighth of coke, cut it into five halves, five half grams, okay? And we'll do two half grams and I'll sell the other three.
Joe Rogan
I know where this is going.
Rich Vos
Well, we did One or two. And then he went to sleep. So this is up. I find. I found where he hidden.
Joe Rogan
Oh, so he didn't hide it as good as you hide your money.
Rich Vos
No, I went in and I would steal one at a time. I drove to the convenience store. I cooked it with ammonia, right? Ammonia, yeah, Clear ammonia.
Joe Rogan
Wait a minute. You actually cooked the coke and turned it into crack?
Rich Vos
Yeah, yeah.
Joe Rogan
Why is. Why would you do that? Is it better that way?
Rich Vos
Oh, that's how you get freebase crack. You gotta. You gotta process. You could do it with baking soda. You could do it in a. Boil it.
Joe Rogan
Now, who taught you how to do this? Are you a chemist?
Rich Vos
I was a crack addict.
Joe Rogan
Other crack addicts were like giving you the recipe.
Rich Vos
There's three ways to do it. So I did it with OR four, with ether, which you could blow up your house. So I would steal a half a gram from them. I would go to the convenience store, I'd cook it, smoke it, and pour out the ammonia. I said I can't do.
Joe Rogan
Well, how do you do it?
Rich Vos
I. Yeah, I don't want to help you put it.
Joe Rogan
It's the Internet chat. GPT will tell you how to make. Ask Chat gbt right? Now I'll tell you how do you take cocaine and turn it into freebase?
Rich Vos
You. You put in a teaspoon and you light it and it turns into a rock.
Joe Rogan
Okay.
Rich Vos
And then, yeah, you squeeze and try to get the ammonia out as much as you can in the rock. So I would pour. I would get pneumonia, steal a half a gram from him, go to the bright early in the morning, come back, cook it and pour the ammonia out. Well, now I will chat.
Joe Rogan
CB2, the chemistry behind how it's made for educational purposes only, not intended to encourage illegal activity.
Rich Vos
Baking soda. I said you could do it.
Joe Rogan
Cocaine hydrochloride powder with baking soda and water. Sometimes ammonia is used instead of baking soda. But baking soda is more common for crack. Heat the mixture. As it's heated, the cocaine bases separate from the hydrochloride and form solid rocks that float to the top, cool and dry. This is like a recipe. Solid pieces. The crack rocks are cooled and hardened, then dried. So there you go.
Rich Vos
I emptied out the first bottle. Then there was two or three more half grams of. I went and stole another one, went back to the convenience store, bought more ammonia. After the fourth trip to the convenience store, I go, hey, listen, I got a cleaning business. We need a lot of ammonia. Well, I smoked all his coke and I. All of a sudden I hear Somebody yell, he woke up and saw his coke was gone.
Joe Rogan
How many hours had passed?
Rich Vos
Probably four.
Joe Rogan
How many trips to the convenience store?
Rich Vos
Four. And I was just drinking straight vodka, right?
Joe Rogan
Whoa.
Rich Vos
And I'm walking home now. I'm $250 in debt. I have. And it was towards the end of my career, but as a crack addict, As a drug addict, yeah.
Joe Rogan
You call it a career?
Rich Vos
It was a crack career. Well, I think I told this story years ago, but I'll tell it. And he doesn't care because he told it in his book. So me and Frankie are doing a one nighter. And back then, I had the car. You would pick up an act at the Improv and then go do the one nighter in Jersey, right? So we pick up this comic, little white guy, whatever. We go to our one nighter and we're supposed to drop him off at the Improv. And I go, hold on, I gotta make a stop. And we go up to Spanish Harlem. He goes, what are you doing? I go, my sister lives here. She's not doing well. You know, there's people chasing. There's people chasing people with knives up and down the street. And I go up and buy crack. Free base, right? And the kids, like, get me home, take me back to the Improv. What the fuck is going on?
Joe Rogan
Right?
Rich Vos
Well, relax. So now we go down to the Lower east side, and Frankie gets heroin. And the kid. Now Frankie's in the backseat tying up.
Joe Rogan
Shooting heroin while you're driving.
Rich Vos
Well, I'm driving. He's in the back. And the kid is scared to death. He's a little white kid.
Joe Rogan
He wanted to be Jerry Seinfeld.
Rich Vos
It was David Spade.
Joe Rogan
Was it really?
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Oh, my God.
Rich Vos
He was a little white kid from Arizona. Do you remember when he first started? He tells the story in his book. And I apologize to him. He goes, oh, don't worry. It's a good story, right? But we kept him hostage. As I'm smoking crack and Frankie's banging dope in the car. Oh, my God.
Joe Rogan
I heard an Otto and George story once. He's working at a club in Jersey. I don't need to name the club. And he leaves the club with the owner's daughter, and they're headed into New York. And there's another guy driving the car. He stops off at Washington Square park, picks up a bag of crack and starts smoking it in the car. And the girl freaks out. And the. And he says the classic line goes, what? I thought the broad wanted a party.
Rich Vos
I just did a documentary about Him. They interviewed me. They're doing a documentary on auto insured George.
Joe Rogan
Well, we did a lot of those shows, those prom shows.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Otto and George.
Rich Vos
Oh, he was. Yeah, he would. He was genius. I would. Yeah. But I drive with him to a gig and he would go. Do you know what George thought of today? What, you psychopath here?
Joe Rogan
Well, he would make people pull over so he could go check on George. George is in the trunk. He would pull over and check on George. I think there's something to do that. I think that that dummy had a mind of its own. And he. It might have been he had some weird personality disorder where he put a personality to that dummy. But that dummy, when that dummy would say things, you knew it was George.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Like, it didn't even feel like it was auto. It felt like George had his own thoughts on things.
Rich Vos
I worked with ventral course once and I go into his room on the road and he. Putting away the dummy's clothes in another dresser drawer than his. He's like putting away the clothes of the dumb.
Joe Rogan
Holding the clothes.
Rich Vos
Yes. Here's a bit I kind of want to do. You know, back in the day, you know, when there was bank robbers, outlaws, they would wear a handkerchief and go rob a bank. Well, I want to be the outlaw ventriloquist, where I go up a little dummy and put a handkerchief. This way they can't see my lips move. But I could say I'm the outlaw eventually. And I could do a whole five minutes and everybody's going, he must be great. I can't see his lips move.
Joe Rogan
That's good. But you're supposed to talk too. Like the pro part of the fun of being a ventriloquist. Like I would say, Otto would say, I can't believe you're saying that.
Rich Vos
George. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
How do you shut the fuck up? The eyebrows would pop up and you get crazy. Like it's the banter back and forth.
Rich Vos
I'll talk behind the mask. I'm not going to do it.
Joe Rogan
But it's going to work.
Rich Vos
How come?
Joe Rogan
Terrible idea.
Rich Vos
Okay, so I threw it out. How come there's no ventriloquist on this planet that gets along with their dummies?
Joe Rogan
Well, there's not even very many ventriloquist acts anymore. There used to be a bunch of ventriloquist acts. There was Willie Tyler and Lester, who was in LA. There was a few.
Rich Vos
There was Vince D'Antonio and George from Long Island.
Joe Rogan
You know what I think it was? It's like when one guy becomes really big, like Jeff Dunham, he became the man when it came to ventriloquist. And then he's so popular that nobody touches it anymore. Sort of like Carrot Top did that to prop Ax. Yeah, like prop Ax used to be.
Rich Vos
Remember we started out the wood. Did you ever work with it?
Joe Rogan
He was great.
Rich Vos
I pulled it in diaper. I mean, laundry basket, shoots with props.
Joe Rogan
Oh, he had so much. Yeah, he had like a whole trunk full of stuff that he would have to carry.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But there's. They don't have them anymore. Because Carrot Top became so famous as a prop act that everybody's like, oh, it's a Carrot Top thing.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
They just abandoned it. Like musical acts. There's no fucking musical acts anymore.
Rich Vos
There's. There was. They're on ships. Gary Delano was a musical act.
Joe Rogan
But guys who around for a long time, they're legacy acts. There's no upcoming people right now that are musical comedians.
Rich Vos
Well, there's no magicians. There was a couple magic acts. Like when I did one Nighters, you worked. There was jugglers, juggling, Jack Schwerzy. A couple magic acts.
Joe Rogan
There's a few magic acts still that work in California because. Because the comedy magic club.
Rich Vos
Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan
It hurt. Hermosa beach, like, he used to have it where you'd have a magician mixed in with the comedy. Last time I worked there.
Rich Vos
Okay.
Joe Rogan
When I started working there, I was.
Rich Vos
Like, do you ever remember Chips Cooney where he did the fake magic act? It was really funny. He would just do stupid.
Joe Rogan
Lenny Schultz was a prop actor. Crazy Lenny.
Rich Vos
He just died. Oh. Like About a month ago. Three weeks ago. More pigs, Lenny. There we go. More pigs. And he was just.
Joe Rogan
He was so ridiculous.
Rich Vos
He was nuts.
Joe Rogan
He was so funny, though.
Rich Vos
And the nicest guy in the world.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I remember he had a. He pulled out like a Smokey the Bear doll and he's like, only you can prevent forest fires.
Rich Vos
Shut the up.
Joe Rogan
And he punched the bear. It was so ridiculous. And then he'd move on to something else. Like it never ever happened. It's like it was what he would kill.
Rich Vos
Kill. And it made no sense.
Joe Rogan
No sense.
Rich Vos
No sense.
Joe Rogan
It was just maniacal. It was just crazy. His crazy face and crazy eyes. Like, it was really funny.
Rich Vos
Like, Carrot Top is a good prop back. If you like prop backs. He's the best prop act. Yeah. I mean, Rip Taylor didn't like him, but, you know, Rip Taylor's from how many years ago?
Joe Rogan
Rip Taylor?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Remember the gay.
Joe Rogan
Oh, the mustache?
Rich Vos
Yeah. And throw this. Yeah. The glitter and stuff.
Joe Rogan
He didn't like Carrot Top because Carrot.
Rich Vos
Top was getting real famous at the time.
Joe Rogan
And Red Taylor was a hater.
Rich Vos
Yeah, was the, the prop.
Joe Rogan
But it's like most comics today are just comics. They just, they just do stand up.
Rich Vos
You don't.
Joe Rogan
Very little. Like all the variety stuff is gone.
Rich Vos
Well, Frankie Pace was a prop act and he killed.
Joe Rogan
Yeah, he killed, killed.
Rich Vos
You're right. There was, it's. There was more variety in the one nighters and the clubs.
Joe Rogan
Oh yeah.
Rich Vos
Then there is just like.
Joe Rogan
Well, in the 80s comedy was anything it could. There was no definition of it back then. Like guys had like pieces of paper they'd bring on stage and hold up signs. There was all kinds of weird shit and now it's just people talking.
Rich Vos
Oh, the guy from Boston, I work with him. He was so angry. We did a one nighter. He said, fuck this. I a pool hall Bob something batch. He had paper signs. He would pull up and do a thing on signs or whatever. It was just from Boston.
Joe Rogan
Well, there was the guy from the Blue Collar tour. Bill Engvall. Yeah, he had signs.
Rich Vos
Did he?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
None of them said quit. I don't know, I. What do you call it? What's his name? Kills on stage. Josh Adam Myers. Yeah, he does Kills.
Joe Rogan
Well, he does that goddamn comedy jam. Yeah, his music too, but that's a little different.
Rich Vos
But we had him on our show. Would you bang him? We, me and Bonnie do the show. It's, you know, the show we do. No, we. What we do is Bonnie and I host it and we have like five comics and they do like eight or 10 minutes a piece. Then we have three female judges and a gay and a gay judge. And after the set they discuss whether they would them or not.
Joe Rogan
Oh, interesting.
Rich Vos
And the gay judge is always the funniest. He's always the funniest. But some, some of these females, they're just so funny, you know. So he came out, we did it a couple. We do it at a lot of festivals and we did it at. In New York and Josh Adam Myers came out and he sang the whole time just fucking all over the stage. I'm going. He's got to close every show in the comedy club because nobody's following that.
Joe Rogan
Right, right.
Rich Vos
There's no way different seller that you're gonna go up after that, you know, And I'm not. What he does is great. What he does is, you know.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. If you were on the road and you had a middle act and the middle act was brought to you by the club like, they assigned a middle act, and the middle act was doing music. You were?
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
You were.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah. Guitar. I worked Vegas once following a guy with a guitar, and I had. And he's closing with Springsteen and the bandana on his head. I'm going, what the.
Joe Rogan
It's a totally different thing, you know, but it's weird that that's not more popular because it used to be so effective. That's what I'm saying. It's like, why isn't there more of those acts like that out there? Because it was so effective.
Rich Vos
Well, some of them got older and went to cruise ships that do good.
Joe Rogan
I know, but why didn't the younger ones. Why. Why didn't. How come no younger ones emerged? That's what's weird.
Rich Vos
It is kind of weird. No impressionist either.
Joe Rogan
Very hardly.
Rich Vos
That Your impressions.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
You know, and everyone that. That they would turn around, fix their hair, and then they always turned around.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
You know.
Joe Rogan
Right. Imagine if Jack Nicholson.
Rich Vos
I'd be scared to turn around in the audience left, but they turn around. There was so many. Jeff de Hart, he did Rod Sterling perfectly.
Joe Rogan
It is interesting. There's not a lot of just impressionists, right?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Danny Stone, Randy Credico. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Frank Caliendo does.
Rich Vos
Yeah. Yeah.
Joe Rogan
But he's, like, the only one you.
Rich Vos
Don'T really see him in. Well, I don't know if he's still in clubs. He does a lot.
Joe Rogan
I think he does theater.
Rich Vos
He does mostly, yeah. He was on the Virus tour. On the Opie and Anthony tour.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I did it with him. Yeah.
Rich Vos
Oh, you did the Virus tour? Yeah, I hosted every show.
Joe Rogan
Yeah. I did one of them in Vegas.
Rich Vos
Oh, yeah?
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
The Vegas one.
Joe Rogan
That was, like, the last time I saw Patrice.
Rich Vos
Wow.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
We joined the benefit. We do it. I hosted every year. And Billy closes it. We're doing it, I think, in May this year.
Joe Rogan
Oh, yeah?
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Okay. So it's next month. Do you know the dates?
Rich Vos
Yeah, I'll tell you. Right.
Joe Rogan
Tell everybody so they can go buy tickets.
Rich Vos
Bust out those glasses first. These are dollar store glasses. Okay.
Joe Rogan
Why do you buy them at the dollar store?
Rich Vos
Sure. Because my good ones are at the hotel. I don't want to lose.
Joe Rogan
I want to waste them.
Rich Vos
I don't want to lose them.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
I mean, I would have worn the good ones on Theo's podcast.
Joe Rogan
Jesus Christ. I'm looking at your face when you turn sideways so I can see how much magnification you got. What are those? How many? How many x you got?
Rich Vos
250.
Joe Rogan
That's it?
Rich Vos
Yeah. Okay.
Joe Rogan
It looks like I'm seeing a double the size of your look. Like you got stung by a bee.
Rich Vos
Listen, listen to me.
Joe Rogan
So it's already sold out, so people can't buy tickets.
Rich Vos
I'm sure it sells out every.
Joe Rogan
It is beautiful that you guys do that every year. The Patrice benefit. Yeah, it's very cool. You talk about a guy that, like, touched so many people because he was so brilliant.
Rich Vos
Why? How could it be on a Sunday? The Patrice Bay says May 18th in my calendar. Maybe because Billy's doing a 12 angry many playing every fucking character. No, he's in Gary Gleng Ross.
Joe Rogan
Oh, is he?
Rich Vos
Yeah. And. And, yeah, him and Closers.
Joe Rogan
Is he that guy?
Rich Vos
I don't know. Go see it. I'd rather walk through Lebanon wearing a yarmulke and go see that angry. Hack off. Billy, shut the up. Send me a stupid pro Palestinian. Shut up.
Joe Rogan
Oh, does he have a lot of pro Palestinians?
Rich Vos
Oh, we fight all the time. I. Well, we on text.
Joe Rogan
Really? You go. You and Bill Burr go back and forth about Palestine for real?
Rich Vos
Yeah, sometimes.
Joe Rogan
Wow.
Rich Vos
Yeah, but I'm, you know, look, I'm friends with them for years. I mean, forever.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
Billy, you know when comedians get political.
Joe Rogan
And it's the point where they. They distance themselves with people that don't agree with them. That, to me, is hilarious. Hilarious and how stupid it is. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, what. What are you doing? Like, this is. This is where you're gonna draw the line on some. That barely affects your personal life.
Rich Vos
I've. I've not any of my friends that are like that. I'm still friends with them. I don't agree with a lot of the shit. And they're stupid.
Joe Rogan
Yeah.
Rich Vos
You know, I mean, one or two people I think are. Say really vile stuff, and I just. Just mute them. I don't deal with them. You know, they're not friend friends.
Joe Rogan
Right.
Rich Vos
You know, I mean, me and Norton don't agree on everything. You know, how can you. I mean, his.
Joe Rogan
How can you agree on everything?
Rich Vos
His wife is so much hotter than my wife.
Joe Rogan
She's got a better dick.
Rich Vos
She was the best man at his wedding. Norton is so quick and funny. It's. Yeah, he was the best man at my wedding. He's so funny.
Joe Rogan
He's great on Kill Tony. Oh, my God. He's one of the best guests.
Rich Vos
I mean, you know who else is? Colin is so funny. Oh, he's so quick.
Joe Rogan
Colin's amazing. He's. There's a bunch of guys and I Think I put you in there, too. That just never really promoted themselves on social media, so it's like, you're really good. But, like, even a towel. Like a towel. For the level of comedy that he is, he should be selling out stadiums every night. But he just doesn't promote himself at all. All he does is just like, all of his following is just word of mouth.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
And other comics saying how great he is. And, like, people who have seen him before, they've come to see him again.
Rich Vos
Well, he says one of my videos now is up to. Up to almost 5 million views. Is that good?
Joe Rogan
Yeah, it's good.
Rich Vos
That's good. It's really funny.
Joe Rogan
I believe it. I believe you're funny.
Rich Vos
If you want to play it, I will.
Joe Rogan
No, we don't. Let's wrap this up. So you're gonna be at the mothership. What are the dates again? June. What?
Rich Vos
June, I think. 27th, 28th and 20. I do it every week.
Joe Rogan
Take pictures of you with your shirt off. So prepare for that. Get ready.
Rich Vos
Yeah.
Joe Rogan
Get yourself in shape tomorrow. I'm going to bring you to waste. Well, get you on the peptides and.
Rich Vos
Oh, okay.
Joe Rogan
Get your blood work and find out what the Going on with your shoulders. Shoot you up with stem cells.
Rich Vos
I do have a special on Amazon called Rich Voss Anonymous. It's pretty funny.
Joe Rogan
Why is it called Anonymous?
Rich Vos
Because I taped it at N A convention.
Joe Rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
Rich Vos
And the backdrop. Bonnie directed the beginning. The backdrop is so cool.
Joe Rogan
There it is. Look at you.
Rich Vos
False Anonymous.
Joe Rogan
You look good there.
Rich Vos
Where's your trail?
Joe Rogan
Dangerous, man. You look dangerous. Dangerous.
Rich Vos
Can you play the trailer?
Joe Rogan
No, we're not gonna play a trailer.
Rich Vos
Okay, good.
Joe Rogan
We're gonna leave.
Rich Vos
Okay.
Joe Rogan
Wrap this up. No, we don't need to play a trailer.
Rich Vos
Okay.
Joe Rogan
You're funny.
Rich Vos
I was doing it for you. No, I don't care about me for you.
Joe Rogan
I'm gonna not do it better.
Rich Vos
This. I've done this podcast three times, and this is the most fun I had.
Joe Rogan
It was fun.
Rich Vos
It was fun.
Joe Rogan
We had a good time.
Rich Vos
I. I had a good time.
Joe Rogan
Come to the club tomorrow too. We'll hang out. You got any sets tomorrow? You going?
Rich Vos
No.
Joe Rogan
All right, come to the club. Do bottom of the barrel too. What's that? There's a. A whiskey barrel on stage with notes in it from the audience. You pull them out and you just riff.
Rich Vos
Oh, really?
Joe Rogan
Yeah. You love it. It's so much fun. It's like a premise factory.
Rich Vos
So what am I going to do about this thing tomorrow?
Joe Rogan
As soon as we wrap. I'll. I'll set it up as soon as we get done here.
Rich Vos
All right. This was fun.
Joe Rogan
Thank you for having Rich Voss, ladies and gentlemen. Bye. Everybody sa.
Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience #2305 - Rich Vos
Release Date: April 15, 2025
In Episode #2305 of The Joe Rogan Experience, comedian Rich Vos joins host Joe Rogan for an in-depth and candid conversation. The episode delves into Vos's personal struggles, career in comedy, views on contemporary issues, and his journey towards self-improvement. Rich Vos brings a blend of humor, vulnerability, and sharp insights, making for a compelling discussion that resonates with both comedy aficionados and general listeners.
Timestamp [00:12] - [02:09]
The episode begins with light-hearted banter about cars, highlighting Rich Vos's affinity for luxury vehicles. Vos humorously comments on his material possessions, suggesting a deeper sense of emptiness despite outward success.
This introduces the theme of materialism versus personal fulfillment, setting the stage for deeper conversations about what truly brings happiness and satisfaction.
Timestamp [02:09] - [05:10]
Vos opens up about his career in comedy, expressing feelings of perpetual dissatisfaction despite notable achievements. He discusses the elusive "one more thing" mentality that keeps him striving for unattainable perfection.
Vos reflects on his professional journey, highlighting the constant pressure to achieve more, even after securing specials and maintaining a steady career.
Timestamp [05:10] - [17:05]
The conversation shifts to the dynamics between comedians and club owners. Vos shares anecdotes about working with legends like Bill Hicks and Brian Callan, illustrating the challenges and politics within the stand-up scene.
Vos critiques the commodification of comedy, where numerical success overshadows artistic integrity. He emphasizes the importance of respect from peers and industry insiders over mere accomplishments.
notable insight: Joe Rogan underscores the importance of mental clarity and peace, suggesting that internal turmoil often leads to professional setbacks.
Timestamp [21:43] - [82:20]
Rich Vos vulnerably recounts his past battles with drug addiction, detailing his descent into crack addiction and subsequent journey to sobriety. He shares poignant stories about the brink of relapse, the impact on his personal life, and the steps he took to regain control.
Vos describes a significant turning point where a near-fatal relapse led him to seek rehabilitation, marking the beginning of his recovery.
He also discusses the ongoing challenges of maintaining sobriety, the role of his wife Bonnie in his recovery, and the importance of self-discipline.
Timestamp [44:25] - [79:59]
A substantial portion of the episode delves into Vos's perspectives on geopolitical issues, particularly focusing on the Israel-Palestine conflict and the rise of anti-Semitism.
Vos expresses strong pro-Israel sentiments, critiquing both historical and contemporary policies. He discusses the historical presence of Jews in Israel, the ongoing conflicts, and the complexities of achieving lasting peace.
The discussion extends to the role of misinformation and organized movements on platforms like Twitter, highlighting concerns about propaganda and the manipulation of public opinion.
Vos also touches upon broader societal issues, including free speech concerns, campus protests, and the influence of external funding in shaping public discourse.
Timestamp [79:59] - [124:15]
Vos reflects on the changing landscape of stand-up comedy, lamenting the loss of variety acts and the rise of strict numerical metrics dictated by club owners.
He reminisces about the vibrant one-night stands and the diverse array of performers that once characterized the scene. The conversation highlights the tension between artistic expression and commercial viability.
Joe Rogan adds his observations about the diminishing presence of impressionists and variety acts, attributing it to the dominance of high-profile performers like Jeff Dunham and Carrot Top.
Timestamp [124:27] - [137:41]
Towards the end of the episode, the focus shifts to Rich Vos's physical health, specifically his torn rotator cuff. Rogan offers advice on rehabilitation, emphasizing the importance of physical therapy and proper exercise to aid recovery.
Vos discusses his skepticism towards traditional medical advice, opting instead for alternative treatments like stem cell therapy and peptides. Rogan counters by stressing the efficacy of established rehabilitation practices.
The dialogue underscores the interplay between mental resilience and physical health, with Rogan advocating for proactive measures to maintain and improve physical well-being.
Timestamp [137:41] - [end]
The episode wraps up with light-hearted exchanges about upcoming events, mutual respect among comedians, and the enduring camaraderie within the comedy community. Rich Vos hints at future performances and his ongoing commitment to self-improvement.
The conversation concludes on an upbeat note, celebrating the shared history and brotherhood among comedians, while also hinting at Vos's continued evolution both personally and professionally.
Rich Vos: "[00:21] I'm just so empty inside... I hate my life. I hate my insides."
Joe Rogan: "[10:45] ...you have to reset the way you think about things."
Rich Vos: "[49:56]...I think about it as a people."
Joe Rogan: "[48:21] ...they're manufacturing a movement, of course."
Rich Vos: "[20:08] God, when I quit cigarettes, I quit cigars because I was scared I was going to start smoking."
This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience offers a multifaceted exploration of Rich Vos's life, blending humor with deep introspection. From dissecting the intricacies of the comedy industry to grappling with personal demons and broader societal issues, Vos and Rogan engage in a dialogue that is both entertaining and enlightening. Listeners gain valuable insights into the challenges of maintaining authenticity in a commercially driven landscape, the complexities of geopolitical conflicts, and the enduring human struggle for self-acceptance and improvement.
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