#2409 - Brian Redban

Summary

The Joe Rogan Experience #2409 — Brian Redban

Date: November 11, 2025
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Brian Redban
Producer: Jamie Vernon

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Overview

This episode reunites Joe Rogan with longtime friend and comedian Brian Redban for a characteristically freewheeling, irreverent conversation. The discussion ranges from rapid advances in technology (quantum computers, AI, smart devices), American and international politics, the culture of digital surveillance, the evolution of entertainment (from ringtones to massive immersive spheres), and the oddities and anxieties of modern life, all filtered through the duo's blend of skepticism, cynicism, and offbeat humor. The result is an episode that captures the disordered energy and curiosity that defines The Joe Rogan Experience.

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Main Themes & Key Topics

• Artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and exponential technology
• Surveillance, privacy, and the commodification of personal data
• American and Chinese approaches to tech, drones, and trade conflicts
• The evolution of mobile phones, gadgets, and consumer tech culture
• Censorship, media manipulation, political polarization, and the problem of narrative control
• Social changes wrought by technology: from OnlyFans to VR to incels
• Entertainment, comedy, and the changing landscape of live performance, Vegas, and immersive screens
• The simulation hypothesis and existential speculation about the future of civilization
• Lighthearted and explicit stories about bodily functions and public behavior

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In-Depth Breakdown

1. Quantum Computing & AI (00:13–03:56, 132:09–139:16)

• Jamie describes reports about China's new quantum computer capable of solving problems in minutes that would take traditional supercomputers billions of years — and muses about how few people on Earth could actually reboot or recreate such a machine.

  "If all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there just, like, off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again?" — Jamie Vernon (02:20)

• They riff on the mysterious, possibly multiversal power of quantum computing and riff on the fragility and secrecy of knowledge at the frontier of technology.

• They later revisit the topic when discussing the simulation theory, arguing that a quantum computer’s power makes simulated realities plausible:

  "If [a quantum computer] could run a calculation...in a few minutes...what kind of rendering could that thing do? What kind of experience could that thing provide?" — Joe Rogan (132:13)

2. Tech & Privacy—From Foldables to Surveillance (03:56–07:37)

• Tangential tour of foldable phones (Samsung, Apple), memories of failed tech (Newton, Palm, Blackberry), and the progression to always-on digital lifestyles.
• Jamie laments, "Now look. Now we're doomed. We're doomed, son. And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere." (07:01)
• Real-world examples of how detailed digital tracking enables law enforcement.
• Conversation shifts to ChatGPT, Grok, and the ways AI systems enforce social norms (e.g., refusing to assist with dangerous or illicit requests), with jokes about circumventing safeguards.

3. The Invasive Economy of Data (13:56–14:26)

• Joe: "We never thought that data was a commodity...find out what you're interested in, what stuff you buy online, what websites you visit. That's a commodity."
• Discussion of how the smallest actions (signing up for a newsletter) can expose and commodify vast stores of personal data.

4. Energy, Infrastructure, & Environmental Hypocrisy (15:31–19:13)

• Discussion on the contradiction of green policies outpacing grid capacity (e.g., electric cars in California versus brownouts).

• Critique of solar and battery technology, especially the moral implications of "conflict minerals" mined in conditions verging on slavery.

  "It's one of the weirdest things ever that the most advanced thing that we all possess, a cell phone, is made in the most barbaric way possible." — Jamie (18:03)

5. American vs. Chinese Tech, Drones, and Geo-Politics (22:37–26:01, 49:25–58:39)

• Praise for functionality in banned or niche devices (Sony, DJI drones).

• US–China trade tensions, tech bans (DJI), and the intertwining of state and corporate strategies in China.

  "China's way ahead on drones...their government and their corporations are like this. They work together and they work together for China, like, and you don't have a choice." — Jamie (55:54)

• Insight into US government drama around drone procurement, conflict of interest, and domestic innovation versus foreign threats.

6. Censorship, News, and the Narrative (26:01–33:50)

• Dissection of how media manipulation, selective editing, and “woke” ideology have warped news coverage, specifically concerning figures like Trump.

• Example: BBC editing a Trump speech to misrepresent his intent, with Jamie highlighting the dangers of such distortions.

  "This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs...it’s a crazy evil battle." — Jamie (26:51)

7. Societal Fragmentation, Violence, and Civil Strife (30:23–32:38)

• Comment on increasing polarization and celebration of violence, e.g., reactions to Charlie Kirk being shot.

  "As soon as you celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory. You're in dark territory." — Jamie (32:09)

8. The Tech Arms Race, Gaming, and Gadget Musings (39:30–44:30)

• Deep dive into new phone tech, water-cooled gaming phones, and the addictive pull of mobile and VR gaming.
• Celebrity and comedy world anecdotes, e.g., William Montgomery’s unique comedic stardom.

9. Free Speech, Comedy, and Global Performance (66:53–68:10)

• Jamie and Brian muse on the difficulty (and risks) of performing comedy in countries with severe speech restrictions (Saudi Arabia, UK).

  "If someone says, you can't say this or you can't say that, I'm like, okay, yeah." — Jamie (67:41)

10. Social Change: OnlyFans, Relationships, and Sexuality (164:01–172:37)

• Explosive OnlyFans growth: from $238M (2019) to $8B (2024), with half of American men reportedly holding accounts.

  "Half of the population is on OnlyFans in America." — Jamie (166:59)

• Discussion of declining in-person intimacy for young men, the rise of “incels”, and the potential for AI and VR to further change sexual and social experience.

11. Simulation Hypothesis & Existential Anxiety (131:16–135:18)

• Brian: "I'm leaning more towards simulation theory. More and more the older I get."
• Joe and Brian view emergent AI, quantum computers, and the odd trajectory of civilization as evidence for a simulation or programmed universe.

12. Lighthearted and Explicit Commentary

• Anecdotes about public masturbation, the weirdest dog stories, and the mechanics of porn consumption in the age of VR—endlessly veering between crude jokes and genuine curiosity.
• Joe: "You got to be a special kind of creep to be jacking off on a plane with a bunch of people." (155:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On quantum computing and knowledge silos:
  "If all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there just, like, off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again?" — Jamie Vernon (02:20)

• On digital surveillance:
  "Now look. Now we're doomed. We're doomed, son. And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere." — Jamie Vernon (07:01)

• On the ethics of green technology:
  "The most advanced thing that we all possess, a cell phone, is made in the most barbaric way possible." — Jamie Vernon (18:03)

• On media manipulation and trust:
  "You're lying about what he said publicly, which is on the Internet, which anybody could see…like, it is the clearest, like, indication of how that woke shit was rotting people's brains." — Jamie Vernon (27:43)

• On societal risk and polarization:
  "As soon as you celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory." — Jamie Vernon (32:09)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:13–03:56 | Quantum computing, AI, and knowledge bottlenecks | | 03:56–07:37 | Foldables, mobile tech history, digital surveillance | | 15:31–19:13 | Energy policy, batteries, Congo mining, environmental costs | | 22:37–26:01 | Banned tech, DJI drones, China–US trade and tech race | | 26:01–33:50 | Media editing, fake news, Trump, BBC scandal | | 30:23–32:38 | Violence, polarization, and the Charlie Kirk shooting | | 39:30–44:30 | Gaming phones, tech advances, VR's addictive potential | | 66:53–68:10 | Comedy and censorship worldwide | | 131:16–135:18 | Simulation theory, quantum computers as evidence | | 164:01–172:37 | OnlyFans statistics, impacts on relationships, decline of sexual activity among young men |

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Tone and Language

Throughout, the language is frank, often explicit, and unapologetically comedic. Joe and Brian’s banter alternates between alarm at the pace of technological change and a playful, sometimes crude, cynicism about the direction of civilization. There's a constant thread of skepticism, but also fascination with progress and the strangeness of digital life.

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Conclusion

This episode is a sprawling, sometimes chaotic, always candid overview of the year’s most pressing themes—technology’s relentless march, media unreliability, social fragmentation, and the disruption of entertainment and relationships. Rogan and Redban use humor and incredulity as tools to probe the profundity and absurdity of modern existence. For those interested in where culture, technology, and irreverent comedy collide, this episode is a microcosm of our bewildering times.

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Transcript

[Brian Redban]

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

[Jamie Vernon]

Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[Brian Redban]

And we're up.

[Jamie Vernon]

Hey, good to see you. Good to see you. Did you see that? New information about China came out with a new quantum computer that can do. It can do an equation in four minutes. It takes all the world's supercomputers 2.6 billion years to solve.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

And it can do it in four minutes.

[Brian Redban]

Is that real, though?

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean, allegedly. I mean, allegedly. That's the problem with this whole quantum thing is. I don't understand. I've had it explained to me four or five times. I don't understand it. Yeah, it's just my monkey brain is like.

[Brian Redban]

They also say a lot of things, you know, so who knows if it's real or not?

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, you mean China or China, But. But they have American ones that have done them too. They've done some crazy. Like Marc Andreessen explained one of them. It's so nuts. He said that it solved a computer, that if you took it, solved an equation, if you took all of the world's atoms and converted it into a supercomputer, all the universe's atoms. Excuse me. And converted it into a supercomputer, it would take so much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death. And this quantum computer solved it in a matter of minutes.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know what it means, though. I think what they're trying to say is that this somehow or another is proof of the multiverse because all of these computers are somehow or another like this quantum. The idea is this quantum computer is computing along with other quantum computers in other dimensions, other universes, other something, other realms. And that there's an infinite number, that there's so many of them, that that's the only thing that can account for this thing being able to do this so quickly, Right? So you're like, okay, what are you saying? Like, what are you saying? What are you doing? What does this mean?

[Brian Redban]

Yes, chatgpt.

[Jamie Vernon]

How many people know this? This is what's weird, right? Let's assume that they're telling the truth, and let's assume that they've figured out a computer that can. It's got godlike powers, right? How many fucking people know how this works? Like, what is the number? Like, if all those people got assassinated and those machines were just sitting there just, like, off, how long would it be before somebody came along that could figure out how to start that up again? Do you know what I'M saying, right? Like, are we dealing with, like, so this is. It might be the most monumental technological breakthrough in the history of the human race. Right. If something has to be right. And then you think of what it can do once it does that, and how many people know how to make that.

[Brian Redban]

When schizophrenic, he's been trying to tell us the whole time.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is it like one dude? This is like one dude that they just feed and take care of and guard him everywhere he goes. Like, he's the guy. He figured this thing out. No one knows how, how this magic works. I mean, if you had a guess, like, how many quantum computer scientists that could successfully recreate a quantum computer given enough resources.

[Brian Redban]

30, maybe.

[Jamie Vernon]

30, maybe on the planet. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. And what?

[Brian Redban]

Right?

[Jamie Vernon]

30 out of 8 billion. 30 out of 8 billion. I don't even know if we're right, but let's assume we're right. Let's say 100. Let's get crazy. Let's say 100. What are those hundred people? What if some Mongolian assassin just gets hired, just take out all of them and they all start dropping like flies?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

This. It's weird when there's technology that's at a level where you got to go, like, how many people know how to do that? Like, you were just showing me your phone. Like, show me that phone again. This is so sexy. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the new Samsung fold. And I swear to God, when you're holding it in your hand, it feels like a regular phone. And then thin it is. It's a iPhone. It's so thin.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

If you compare it to my iPhone, it doesn't feel any different. It feels smaller. It's smaller than my iPhone. And then you could use it like a regular phone. And it's a good size regular phone. Like kind of the perfect size for texting. Where your thumb goes across, easy. Like easy one hand hold, but then decadence.

[Brian Redban]

Right now you have a little iPad. IPad with you.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Now you're answering emails, you're watching YouTube videos.

[Brian Redban]

Supposedly. That's what Apple's doing next is they're bringing out a foldable next year.

[Jamie Vernon]

They always do that, right? They wait until everybody gets it right.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like Samsung finally got it right. Because if they came out with some clunky bullshit like, do you remember the Newton?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I mean, but it was ahead of its time, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was so ahead of its time. But who trusted their information in that thing? Like, all your data, like, that's a crash. That thing's Barely glued together.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I remember when I first came out to California in 1994, there was a guy who was a head of one of these big studios. Like, very impressive character kind of guy who wears like those tie clasps and those cufflinks. He was a tie clasp, cufflink guy. Like, very wealthy guy. And he had one of those Newton stupid things, and he was carrying it around and I was looking, I was like, what is the benefit of that? Like, you have an address book. I have an address book. Like, you write it down. You just turn to the page. Like, you just turn to the page on this thing that's as big as a house. Like, this thing is so big. It's like a loaf of bread you're carrying around everywhere.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And then that's what kind of made the trio, Right? Remember the trio and all that stuff? That was like a little baby version of it, bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

I remember I thought I was a wizard when I had a palm. I was like, look at me. I've got a keyboard and a screen, motherfucker. I'm in the future.

[Brian Redban]

Those are awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. I remember I resisted the BlackBerry for a while because the people that I work with on Fear Factor all had the blackberries and they were always on their BlackBerry. I was like, that thing is like stealing your time. Like, well, you got to answer emails. Like, that's the new thing. Like, you got to be able to answer emails on the fly. That was a totally new thing.

[Brian Redban]

And you get small, tiny buttons you.

[Jamie Vernon]

Had to get used to, but you could actually send an email. So if you were on a BlackBerry, like, you were kind of serious, you were getting things done. You're getting things done. But I noticed early on, and obviously I fell victim to it myself because we're all scrolling. We're all doom scrolling all day. But when I first started seeing these guys with the email on the phone, I'm like, man, you want your email on your computer, you don't want it on your phone. You don't want to be carrying your email all the time. So anybody can get a hold of you at any time, you got to respond because you have to check your email all the time. Now that's another thing you have to do. That's crazy.

[Brian Redban]

And now look.

[Jamie Vernon]

Now look. Now we're doomed. We're doomed, son. And then there's, you know, there's tracking of everybody everywhere. Now everywhere you go, your phone's tracking where you go.

[Brian Redban]

It's crazy. I saw like a court case the other day and they were proving that this woman killed a guy or something like that, and they actually had the information, like, and then at 8:00, you went on this photo on Instagram and browsed it for 2.3 seconds while. And like. And I was just like, how do they know that much?

[Jamie Vernon]

They know everything you're doing, son.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, well, so that's why they always bust people like how to get rid of a dead body. People are trying to find where they can buy lime for cash.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And now I guess Chachi PD is like helping people like, oh, you know, asking Chachi PT about how to make a bomb or something like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Will Chat GPT turn you in?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, Chat GP will turn you in.

[Jamie Vernon]

You rat. I was just theoretically.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

I wanted to know if you could teach me how to make a bomb.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. One of the loopholes supposedly is going, I'm writing a book and I need to make it accurate. Can you tell me how?

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, apparently that's how you can get Chippy T to explain to do a lot of things that you really shouldn't be doing.

[Brian Redban]

Right? Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Like my grandmother's being held ransom. Like, I have to, I have to, you know, somehow or another have to save her. And the only way I could save her is to make a nuclear bomb. How do I do this?

[Brian Redban]

I mean, and I have to do it too because like, like I'll try to make like a naked and chat, you know, using a grok image or something like that. And I'm like, okay, she's wearing a bikini, but it's clear and a bunch of milk is falling all over her from the sky. You know.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is chat is grok limited in any way and what it allows you to do.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, they all are. But Grok seems to be a little bit more spicy. But they all catch on to you and they're, you know, and stop. Like, then they start acting.

[Jamie Vernon]

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[Brian Redban]

They do.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's all. But is that. That can't be legal.

[Brian Redban]

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[Jamie Vernon]

That's nuts.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I almost subscribed Kanye with a bbl and big fat titties.

[Brian Redban]

I mean, you can make.

[Jamie Vernon]

And he could fly away and become an eagle. Yeah, you know, like, you can make it anything.

[Brian Redban]

He finishes me off and he flies.

[Jamie Vernon]

Away and he winks at you. And when he winks, he makes that Liberace noise. Dinky, you remember that song, when Liberace winks at me. God, I can't even imagine inside someone's lifetime. Conceivably, somebody saw that on television because that was like, what Jamie was that 1950s. The Liberace winks at me. Find out when that was. See, let's just imagine someone's alive to see when Liberace winks at me on tv. And then as they're older, they're seeing Kanye west with big fat titties. And you see, you're seeing AI. That's. I get sent AI things all the time, and I have to tell my friends, dude, that's not real.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it. It's full. It fools me one out of a hundred times. And I'll sit there and watch and be like, oh, no, look, that woman had, like, a weird fingernail in that one frame. You know, there's always some.

[Jamie Vernon]

But that's just for now. Like. Like a year ago. It was easy to tell, right?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, well, it is pretty hard. Like, there's. I follow a couple of these fake girls on Instagram, you know, that are not real, and they have, like, 2 million followers.

[Jamie Vernon]

And I'm like, there's so many of them. Men are so simple. Show us big titties with a pretty face and you have our attention. And then you could sell us hammers or whatever, whatever you try to do. Steal our data. DM us.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

It's pretty nice, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

But how many fake DMs do you get or text messages do you get in a day?

[Brian Redban]

Oh, that's about three or four a day, saying, like, hey, Brian, you know, you selling your house? And I'm like, what? I'm not selling my house. What are you talking?

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, just, mine aren't even to me. They're to a dude named Raymond. Raymond owned my phone number before me. And Raymond was a moron. Raymond signed up for everything. This fucking dude gets text messages all day long.

[Brian Redban]

I have that same thing, and I think it's on purpose. So you write back, hey, man, wrong number. Then they know it's a real.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, it's a. Yeah, but it's the same guy's name.

[Brian Redban]

I know, me too. I have that, too. I have that, too.

[Jamie Vernon]

But I think it's someone signed up for something and then someone sold the data. So, like, you use yourself. What happens is a lot of these sleazy. Here's the thing. We never thought that data was a commodity. Whoever thought when you would sign up and give someone your email address, that that would be valuable, like a commodity. And find out what you're interested in, what stuff you buy online, what websites you visit. That's a commodity.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's the problem?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

The problem is they can make money. And so all someone has to do is get an email list, like say, you know, something you're selling or whatever. Sign up, receive our newsletter. Okay. And then they have this big ass database and then just sell it to anybody, these scumbags. It's all of a sudden you, you're getting text messages from Nigeria. You know you won money in a lottery and you just have to fill out a form. Oh really? Oh really.

[Brian Redban]

They've been doing that for a while though, right? Remember like you would go to the mall and there'd be a like car enter a win this car. Right. You know, and you'd fill all this information, like how are they just.

[Jamie Vernon]

That was mailing lists. You would get stuff sent to you in the mail. Mail. People don't realize you just get spammy ads in the mail. Like you'd get your mail and like half of it would be, yeah, remember those days?

[Brian Redban]

I mean that's still kind of this still kind of the way.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, but does anybody read those stupid things and you get those things in the mail, those spammy ads?

[Brian Redban]

No, no, no.

[Jamie Vernon]

But I guess enough do.

[Brian Redban]

Why don't they make that illegal?

[Jamie Vernon]

I know there's so many things like that.

[Brian Redban]

Why? Why? I think right now every house should have solar. Like that has to be the roof from now on. You know, any brand new house has to have solar. Why not?

[Jamie Vernon]

It would certainly be a lot easier on the grid.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And we know that grid is going to get worse and worse with all these crazy computers and 100% the grid.

[Jamie Vernon]

The grids can't sustain AI. Like if, if AI becomes, you know, much bigger than it is, which is what everybody anticipates, it's demands for power. Crazy. This disc grid will crash. Like remember when it was one of the most California things ever. They passed a law saying that all new cars had to be electric by like 20, 35 or something like that. And then a couple weeks later they said, please don't charge your electric car because the grid can't handle it.

[Brian Redban]

What the fuck?

[Jamie Vernon]

It's so California. We're going to save you by destroying civilization. We're gonna save you. We're gonna save you. You're gonna have to get an electric car, only electric. So we all feel good about ourselves. And then in the process you, you cook the grid. The grid has. They used to do brownouts all the time just for air conditionings. Remember those?

[Brian Redban]

Oh yeah. Like you had like a part of the. Like you're from 12 to 2, 2 to 4, like based on where you live.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was just enough so it didn't ruin all the food in your freezer.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, like, they were like, keep your freezer shot. Keep your fridge shut. You should be okay. But they had to do it because they didn't have enough juice for the whole city.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I mean, it happens a lot. Almost here. Almost here. Like, I watch our grid all the time. Like, oh, you know, it's so close to failing Here, Watch the grid.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is there an app?

[Brian Redban]

They have it on the news when this happens and stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, it definitely happened during that big freeze.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

First year we moved here, that got sketchy. Yeah, that got weird because there was people that didn't have any heat for like a week and people like, oh, you're in Texas. Shut up. No, it was 20 degrees out.

[Brian Redban]

It was 20 degrees in your house. I remember being that cold.

[Jamie Vernon]

Some people died because they tried to light things on fire in their house. They died from smoke inhalation or putting.

[Brian Redban]

Their generators in their garage. Do you have backup battery backup yet? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great.

[Jamie Vernon]

I love it. Yeah. The thing about solar is solar is relies on batteries and then the batteries degrade and you have to get more batteries. And then the. The real dilemma, the moral dilemma is the way they get batteries.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, that's. That's what nobody. All these green don't want to talk about. Sadar Kara's book, that book on how to get cobalt out of the Congo. And he. When he came in here, he showed us all these different videos that he had taken off his cell phone of these people pulling these minerals out of the ground to make batteries. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, this is crazy. This is. It's one of the weirdest things ever that the most advanced thing that we all possess, a cell phone, is made in the most barbaric way possible. Like the original source minerals are being hammered out of the ground by people who live in dirt floors. They have no money. They have babies on their back. It's insane. It's literally insane that that's the source. Human beings are doing that. These aren't robots. They're human beings operating these conditions so that people can check. Tick tock.

[Brian Redban]

There's no way to recycle it at all.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know.

[Brian Redban]

That's an Elon question. Put that on the Elon list.

[Jamie Vernon]

It should be. Yeah, it should be a law. It should be like, is there anything left in your battery? Is there anything? The stuff is really valuable. Slaves are pulling it out of the ground. Like, that's literally what's Happening and it's a lot of it is run by other countries too, man. And they're running these operations out of the Congo. And you're like. And then we're like, oh, I, I'm Greg, I work at the Apple store. Can I help you? Like, great. If you follow Greg down the line, used to. The minerals in your battery is so evil. It's really evil, man. I mean that's why they call them conflict minerals.

[Brian Redban]

Right, Right. Is any of the new. Well, I guess you wouldn't like any of the. Because there's all these different battery texts. Like I know there's.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, there's a new one.

[Brian Redban]

They're better.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, there's definitely a more energy dense one that like who's using it now? It's not one. Plus it's one of those other Chinese Opio and one of one of those big Chinese companies that makes killer cell phones that we never get this band here, it's got. Yeah, it's got a 7200 milliamp battery. So the iPhone has a 5200 or something like that. So this is like significantly larger than the iPhone battery. What's crazy though is the screen is brighter. It's got like more nits. And if you have them both on full screen brightness and watch a video like watch like prolonged video forever, the iPhone only dies like 35 minutes before this one does. Like they both go like 19 hours. But this one's like 19 hours and 35 minutes. Like, okay, well you got a big ass battery and why does it only go 35 more minutes for like 40% more battery? That seems stupid. Because they're not as optimized. That's the thing that Apple has over everybody. They only have one operating system and they make the devices the end. And so like it's. Everybody else is you're supporting a Samsung phone and those. How about those weirdos with Sony phones? This episode is brought to you by Happy Dad Hard seltzer. A nice cold Happy dad is low carbonation, gluten free and is easy to drink. No bloating, no nonsense. When you're watching a football game or you're golfing, watching a fight with your boys or out on the lake, these moments call for a cold Happy Dad. People are drinking all these seltzers and skinny cans that are loaded with sugar. But Happy dad only has one gram of sugar in a normal size can. You can buy Happy dad on the GoPuff app and your local liquor and grocery store, including Walmart, Kroger, Total Wine and Circle K. And you can't decide on a flavor, grab a variety pack. Lemon, lime, watermelon, pineapple and wild cherry. They also have a great flavor. In collaboration with Death Row Records and Snoop Dogg, they have their new lemonade coming out as well. Visit happydad.com for a limited time offer and use Code Rogan to buy one Happy dad trucker hat and get one free. Enjoy a cold Happy dad must be of legal drinking age. Please drink responsibly. Happy dad Hard Seltzer Tea and Lemonade is a malt alcohol located in Orange County, California.

[Brian Redban]

That's still a thing.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

But the cameras are really good on, bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

Sony phone is the unhelp, unheralded hero of the cell phone world because they'll still make a phone with a jack where you could put in a real audio jack in.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And listen to, like real music instead.

[Brian Redban]

Of a dongle and all that crap.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, you could also charge it at the same time instead of this stupid, stupid USB C thing. Because, like, if you have to listen to something, if something's like really important, your phone's running out of battery, you have to make a choice. Either wear Bluetooth and cook your brain or, you know, you have to charge or listen or you have to put it on speakerphone or something. But with these Sony phones, they still have the old school headphone jack.

[Brian Redban]

I like the old school one. I hate dongles so much on these phones. It just sucks that they're banned. Like so many of these cell phones with all these technologies, you know, because it's from China is banned. Like dji, one of the biggest, coolest companies that makes some of the best drones ever. You know, they just got banned all. And now we have to have like the second best, which is just like, crap. Like, we went. We went backwards 10 years in drone technology.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. And China's way ahead on drones. Right?

[Brian Redban]

Way. I mean, way ahead. And they're like $600 and, you know, they're this big and they're super light and. And what sucks is that the US said, okay, you know, if DJ is like, we have nothing to do with the government, please.

[Jamie Vernon]

And I don't know if you heard, but we're going to make a million drones. We have so many drones.

[Brian Redban]

They have one month, though, for the. There's like five different departments in the US government to. To. To research the company DJI and say, yes, they are with China government or not. And none of the government or none of these four, five departments have done anything since. And they have, like, three weeks left until they're 100% banned forever.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's probably a trade tactic, if I had a guess. Yeah, I think a lot of what Trump does is trade tactics. Like, he threatens, right? He threatened. He threatened Xi Jinping that he's gonna start testing nuclear bombs again. That's what he said. Like, they're. They're testing nuclear bombs. So he's like, if they're testing bombs, we're gonna test bombs. We don't want to test bombs. He's. He's said he was gonna test bombs, and all sudden they're having, like, really fruitful conversations. They sit down and talk it out. I think the craziness of him helps in that way, because once he sits down and talks to people, you know, he's pretty good at making deals. You could hate the guy. You could do.

[Brian Redban]

You could.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, you could be like, fuck him, he's Hitler. Okay, okay. But look, he's already negotiated peace settlements with many African countries that have been at war for decades. These people have been in conflict forever. There's quite a few different international conflicts that he's somehow or another brokered peace deals for. And nobody wants to, like, look at that like this. Like, he's not profiting from making sure these people don't kill each other. He wants. Legitimately. There's some part of him that, you have to admit, doesn't want people to die. And if he could prevent that, he's gonna try to do that also. The crypto coin, sketchy as fuck.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

You gotta be able to say all of it, right? It's all. There's a whole lot. It's like all human beings. He's got a lot of things going on.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

He's just got more because he's the fucking president. But some of those tactics of talking shit, and it kind of seems to work a little. Admit it or not. Do you think it's unpresidential or not? You're probably correct. Some of it seems to work. It's not working with Russia at all. Yeah, Russia, Ukraine thing. Like, remember he said he was going to be able to fix that in 24 hours? And Putin was like, okay, I'm gonna with you.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, Putin is on a totally different level. He's a legit dictator. I mean, he's been running Russia for a long time, and he's got that place locked down so tight that even if he really did allow for open elections, he would still win all the time. And why Would he allow for open one? I know what's best for you.

[Brian Redban]

That's crazy that that still happens, you know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

In most countries, bro. That's what's crazy. This is the only country legitimately where it's up for grabs. Like, that's how a guy like Trump can get in there. I mean, it's a crazy evil battle. And now people are being prosecuted because of a lot of the things that they tried to do while. While he was in office the first time. I mean, there's. There's so many cases going on right now that seem to be legitimate. Like, they Legitimately. You see, the BBC thing, the BBC thing is crazy. The head of BBC had to resign because they took a film of Trump from January 6, the speech that he gave, and they edited it. So something that he said 52 minutes later, they put. Right after one, he said something to make it look like he was trying to get people to go attack people and fight at the Capitol.

[Brian Redban]

He would do that to you all the time.

[Jamie Vernon]

But this one. But this one's nuts. This. Not only is this one nuts, but this one is for a literal president of the greatest country the world's ever known. He's the president, and you're lying about what he said publicly, which is on the Internet, which anybody could see. Like, it is the. The clearest, like, indication of how. How that woke shit was rotting people's brains and is still. Is still, but just less. You know what I mean? It was like it was on the march then, and they all felt like they had to go along with it. And so by any means necessary, we must make sure that, you know, so they decided to paint a different version of what he said. And they're now they're BBC. 60 Minutes did it with the Kamala Harris interview, but they did it the other way. They made it look like she had a good answer, which is like, it's so crazy. Like, you guys are supposed to be the news. You're not supposed to be the propaganda arm of whatever party you support. This is nuts. This is fucking nuts. And BBC is always like, the one you quote when you want to seem smart. I was watching this thing in the BBC. Dude, you watch the BBC, you must be fudgeing smart.

[Brian Redban]

And pbs, I mean, that used to be what I considered, like, school. Like, that's like, you know, the best, the good guys.

[Jamie Vernon]

You see that PBS lady? She's like, sometimes truth gets in the way of good. Like, what? No, it doesn't. Truth doesn't get in the way you fucking crazy asshole. And then they, they had an interview with her and they were like, like asking her questions, like such non answers, like, what, what did you mean by this? Are you, you know, what, what is, do you guys lean in one way or another ideologically or politically? And there's like this circular non answered dance where you don't, you're never a real person. You're not saying, you know, like, thank you, Mr. Senator, for that question. You know, like, you're not real. You're just, you're just trying to get through this session without revealing anything that's gonna force you to be sued. And that's in charge of the narrative that we get on tv. And a respected narrative, pbs, very respected BBC, very respected, like from. Because of the past. And it just got infected by zombies. They just made their way through that.

[Brian Redban]

Gates.

[Jamie Vernon]

And they took over the staff.

[Brian Redban]

Blue hair, what's next?

[Jamie Vernon]

There's a rejection of that. But the scary part is what we usually do is we do something like that and then we overcorrect, right? And then we go like white nationalists, fucking we're all Christian. Get rid of the Muslims. You know what I mean? Like, it gets, it gets scary when there's like hardcore ideological conflict because people push back. Oh, you want to know what a bitch is? I'll show you a fucking bitch. Right? You know, that's what happens. You kind of call me a bitch. Okay, motherfucker, it's on, you know, and then that's what people are doing on the left and the right. And the ultimate expression of that is obviously Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk gets shot. And people are celebrating like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You want people to die that you disagree with? Like, where are we right now on the scale of one to two, Civil war, Where are we? Are we at seven? Because I thought we were five. I thought we were like four, four or five. But after the Charlie Kirk thing, I'm like, oh, we might be like seven. This might be like step seven on, on the way to a bona fide civil war. As soon as you start celebrating regular people celebrating somebody getting murdered in front of their wife and kid on television, in front of the whole world. As soon as you celebrate that, like, man, you're in dark territory. You're in dark territory. And if the worst thing you could say about that guy is that he said some things I disagree with, and you're celebrating that he got shot in the neck in front of the world. Whoa. And you work at an insurance company. This is nuts. And you thought it was okay to say that on Instagram? This is nuts. This is nuts. Like, what are you guys on? Like, what's happening here?

[Brian Redban]

Estrogen pills?

[Jamie Vernon]

I think it's Adderall.

[Brian Redban]

Adderall.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think there's a lot of folks out there, high productivity folks that are on amphitheater. Amphetamines. Yeah, you're an amphetamine person. You know, which is why they're so mean again. Fetamine people are mean. Weed people. Like, oh, you know, we people are like, well, you know, man, like, she's in a bubble. And, like, the people she's around, they all think it's the right thing to do.

[Brian Redban]

That you.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, you. You have the platform and you know it's right. Like, you don't know what's right. I don't know what's right. Nobody knows what's right. The only way you find out what's right is you got to talk to people and you all. You listen to, like, their logical arguments about something. Oh, okay, yeah, you got a good point. I never thought about it that way. But if you can't do that, then you never figure it out. And if instead of doing that, you decide the other people can't talk or you make up some facts or you edit some video together to make it look like somebody said something they totally didn't say. Have you seen it? You've seen the. The. Like, what they edited? Jamie, do you. Can you find it real quick, an example of it so we could see it? Because it's so nuts. Like, how did you think you were going to get away with this? But this is what they've done so many times. They did that with that very fine people hoax where they tried to pretend that he was saying that some of the neo Nazis are very fine people. That is not what he said.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

At all. They cut. Edited the. Out of that. And then Obama was saying that during the campaign for Kamala Harris, he called white nationalists very fine people. Like, he's saying that on the campaign trail. Like, that's crazy.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

So here, play this out down to the Capitol, and I'll be there with you. And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country country anymore. That's the BBC to the Capitol. This is what he actually said. And we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. 54 minutes. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.

[Brian Redban]

That's crazy, Crazy, crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

He was literally saying the opposite.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

He was calling these senators and congress people, going, cheer on these brave senators and congress people.

[Brian Redban]

That's great. On pbs.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's nuts, bro. By the way, he's playing sarcastic. He doesn't want to cheer on the brave senators.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

He wants to scare him with a mob of people. Let's be real about both things. Let's be real about both things. But he's also saying they stole the election. And I feel like if you say that, you've got to have some, like, really good evidence that you could give out. Like if you said to me, if I ran for president and I, I told you, dude, they stole the election, and you're like, how? I would have an answer. I would have an answer. No one has an answer every. There's no documentary that's really good. Like, no one's like, put together like a rock solid, peer reviewed, paper supported documentary. This is exactly what happened. This is how they stole the election. We know that you can do this. We know they did this. We know that these things got dropped off. We know it didn't make any sense. We know there's dead people voted. We know there was ballots that were mail in ballots that were brought in in shipments and all of them were for Biden and there was thousands of thousands of them and they swung vote. Okay? If you have that, then you got to make a fucking documentary, a really good one, and put it out there so everybody could understand it. Because it's crazy that this is four years later and people are still saying that. Or you don't want to fix it because you monkey with the elections too, you know, and here. Is there evidence of that? Well, I do know that a Republican company who bought Dominion, who bought the Dominion voting thing, I believe this, a GOP supporter bought the voting machines.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. Yeah. So it's one of two things that's going on. Dominion voting system sold to company run by former Republican election official. What?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, this world sucks.

[Jamie Vernon]

This is where it gets sucked. I had Rep. Luna on the podcast and one of the things that she said that was really shocking, she said sometimes they don't want to fix things because they can campaign against them. I was like, what? No. They fundraise against them. No. I was like, no. And then I was like, of course they don't want to fix it. They want it so that it's us versus them and you're gonna lose your right to whatever it is, whatever it is. It's just a big old hustle, dude.

[Brian Redban]

It's insane.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's a big old hustle because there's one of things that's going on. One or two things is going on. Either you don't have any evidence that they stole the election. Oh, you have evidence you're not telling me? Why would you not tell me? Why would you not tell me? I'll tell everybody. You have evidence. Like, or are you like, oh, is that how they did it? Okay, let's spread some money around. Let's make it happen our way. Let's copy. Well, just like Xiaomi, when they make the iPhone, that looks exactly like a.

[Brian Redban]

It looks cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Their phone. They even call it the Pro Max 17.

[Brian Redban]

It's badass. It has the screen on the back.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's a screen on the front and the back. Yeah, that was the one. Yeah, that was the one. Yeah, that was. That's the one that has. It has a new kind of battery. It's a different. Different composition. Right, Right.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And yeah, that's. I think.

[Jamie Vernon]

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[Jamie Vernon]

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[Brian Redban]

Right, That's.

[Jamie Vernon]

That, that's a step up. That. But like, there's. There's some things that the higher end Chinese phones are doing that's like, whoo.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, they've been pretty safe lately. Samsung has with their phones, like kind of doing what Apple's doing. You know, just every. Just a little thing different every single year instead of just. I mean, I just saw a phone, I think it's. Was it the Razer phone? No, but it has like the liquid cooling in it. So the back is all just like water bubbles going around and stuff. Like, it's so badass looking.

[Jamie Vernon]

Who makes that?

[Brian Redban]

Jamie. You know what I'm talking about. It's liquid cooling. Was it Razor? No, like, liquid cooling phone. Somebody just showed it. Oh, Jerry Riggs, everything. Just had it and he tore it apart and everything like that. It's badass.

[Jamie Vernon]

I like that guy's show, but it also makes me sad.

[Brian Redban]

Here it is. Unbox therapy. Red magic.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, didn't you have a red phone, Jamie? It's not. Oh, this thieves.

[Brian Redban]

Look at that. See, see those white dots? That's actually water bubbles. And when it gets hot, it just starts spinning.

[Jamie Vernon]

So that's a gaming phone.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

How much do I want water bubbles? I do want water bubbles, but I don't want them enough to switch to Android. It's a problem.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that phone looks awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's pretty dope. That's a problem, though. The. The gaming on the phone, dude, man, I. I can't with that.

[Brian Redban]

I can't either.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's right there. It's too accessible. I don't want to get addicted to some stupid game on my.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's.

[Jamie Vernon]

I know. Some people love it.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Love it.

[Brian Redban]

William Montgomery, he sits there and plays like three hours of Just a Brick game.

[Jamie Vernon]

William Montgomery, that video you sent me, him coming at that Austin comedy festival. That shit is so fun.

[Brian Redban]

There's so many videos now of it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, my God, that's so funny. Here's the thing about William. William, to me is the ultimate. Once you see him, you love him and you want to see him more. Comics. The ultimate.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

But the first time you see me, like, what the fuck is this?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, like Brody Stevens. When you first see Brody, you're like, what the fuck is he yelling at?

[Jamie Vernon]

He's really the most similar guy to Brody that I know.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And they're both. They're both weirdos.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Liam's such a weirdo, but he's a great guy, just like Brody was. But he's. If you see him, though, like the Black Keys. Those guys fucking love him.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And when they came into the studio, they wanted to come to the club. They go, is William Montgomery coming? I go, I'll make sure he's there. As I called up William, I'm like, william, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pat and Dan, they love him, man. He's got so many fans because he's so unique. He's so unique. But you got to know what you're getting into with him, right.

[Brian Redban]

And don't have him open up for you. If you're. What's that? Morgan J. Who was he opening up for? Like, who's that guy that. That guy's. So is that a girl or a guy?

[Jamie Vernon]

I have no idea. I don't know. I just sold the clip you showed me.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I didn't see anything else.

[Brian Redban]

It's. I think it's that guy that goes into the audience with a. Like a auto tune microphone, you know, that's really popular for some reason. Like, he's.

[Jamie Vernon]

See, I'm so old.

[Brian Redban]

Me too. I don't.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm so old. I'm out of the loop. I don't know what these kids like.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Morgan J. Who's more.

[Jamie Vernon]

I find out about artists, and when I find out about them, they have 20 million Instagram followers.

[Brian Redban]

I'm like, okay, that's who. Like, yeah, that's who it is. Morgan J. And he has 5.2 million followers, and his whole thing is like, he just goes into the audience with. He's not really a comedian. Like, he's more of a. Like a performer. He just goes into the audience and, like. And talks to people. Like, he does crowd work. That's pretty. And he's like, one of the biggest stars right now. Like, it's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, people like crowd work. That's why they like Matt Rife. Like, he does. Yeah. Does a lot of crowd.

[Brian Redban]

Sexy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Sexy, too. Both things. Both things. But it's also the crowd work. If he was just sexy, wasn't good at crowd work, he wouldn't have the audience. He does. Matt's funny. He's really quick.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, that's like a certain style of performing, you know? He's real calm on stage and, you know, he finds the thing to say and people love that because you're doing it off the top of your head and it's wild for them. Like, oh my God. But you know, it's just a different thing. It's a different thing than like regular stand up, you know, it's kind of.

[Brian Redban]

Like, like kind of like Chappelle is like. He's like a totally different. He'll sit there and just smoke a cigarette on the stool, like talking like, like chill and stuff like that. Yeah, you know, that's like a different style of stand up comedies. Relaxing.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, Dave is also like. Dave comes up with material by ranting, you know, so he records his. All these sort of shows where he's just working on material and then goes over and finds out what he said. That made sense, what he said that was funny. You know, he just lets it kind of flow, you know, It's a very interesting way of doing it and obviously it works really well. Boy, that guy is so dedicated to comedy. It's. It's so interesting. Like all these years he's been doing stand up and he's still more dedicated than ever. You know, he's always performing. He's always like showing up somewhere and working. Yeah, he's always like. He's just constantly piecing it together. And he's such a nice guy. Like fucking the nicest guy to everybody, you know, like he, like he was upset with Chris Rock after Chris Rock made that special. Not upset, but disagree. I should say that. He went so hard after Will Smith. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's like that's how nice he is.

[Brian Redban]

Have you seen Will? You've probably talked about this. Will Smith's like new song, like, oh, it's great.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's my phone ring.

[Brian Redban]

Are you serious? Yeah, it's your new calling.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's my phone ring.

[Brian Redban]

Remember what you used to be? I am beautiful.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's Christina Aguilera.

[Brian Redban]

That used to be your old callback or your ringtone.

[Jamie Vernon]

You are beautiful no matter what they say Bring me down those were the days. Yeah, man, it was fun. You could get a phone. You would. It was like I had a Verizon flip phone and you could download ringtones.

[Brian Redban]

Why can't you do that now? I just thought of that. You can't do that anymore. You can't make a song every time. Where did that go away?

[Jamie Vernon]

Did that. Is that really not a thing anymore?

[Brian Redban]

I never thought about that. Wait a second.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why would that real?

[Brian Redban]

No, what the. You should be able to do it, like, pick a song on itunes and.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right.

[Brian Redban]

How. How can't you. Why can't you do that anymore?

[Jamie Vernon]

I think you can.

[Brian Redban]

No, no, you can't, can you?

[Jamie Vernon]

You can't. Yeah, you can.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Okay.

[Brian Redban]

What? Wait, no one does that anymore.

[Jamie Vernon]

Nobody does that. I'm gonna switch my back in black.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. That's what everybody used to do that.

[Brian Redban]

No one's done. Zero people do that.

[Jamie Vernon]

I know. Zero.

[Brian Redban]

Zero. Where people are making their car alarm sound on their Teslas, like, things. But you know. You know you can do that. You make, like, fart sounds or whatever.

[Jamie Vernon]

That was like a scene in movies, right. Where the phone would play Bad to the Bone. Bad to the bone. Yeah. That's crazy. Do you remember when you would call people in music would bring back tones.

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Jamie Vernon]

Their. Their tone of their. When you would hear. You would hear a shitty song.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You're like, God, you're making me listen to this. Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Now. Now you don't want to do any of that because you don't want anyone to know that's your phone number. You know what I mean? Like, right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, you don't want to go super specific.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. I used to be like, this is Brian, man. You know, now that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. People used to always have, like, funny things that they would leave.

[Brian Redban]

Hey, Joey Diaz.

[Jamie Vernon]

I got the phone for the. He's the last one. When you get a text from him to this day, I'm like, really?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. He texts us more nowadays. It's kind of cool, really.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know the torture he put you through when you would try to text him or.

[Brian Redban]

Or with the laptop in the green room. One time, he's, like, bending my finger backwards. I said, turn that off.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm like, all right, Julia. Yeah, he didn't like the laugh.

[Brian Redban]

He didn't like technology.

[Jamie Vernon]

He was fighting technology tooth and nail, but he's right in a lot of ways. You know, it's just. I feel like the people that fight technology right now in 2025, it's like, what are you doing? What are you. Come on. You can't beat this thing. Yeah, you better just adjust to the new world, son. Are you gonna be out in the field with a horse driven plow? Adjust to the new world, okay? Just have some fun. Whatever this is, you're not gonna stop it. This is rolling down the hill. Like, no one's hitting the brakes on technology Unless, like, a big event happens. Unless, like, a boom, some big asteroid hits us or China implements. Those really Good. Drones.

[Brian Redban]

All the drones come out and wake up.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think the Trump administration just said they were going to buy a million drones.

[Brian Redban]

Well that's good timing for banning a whole drone company. I actually heard a rumor, I never looked in it, that somebody about that. Where the owner of that drone company is like owned by the Vice President of the United States of America.

[Jamie Vernon]

What?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

J.D. vance.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I think J.D. has like. See, I haven't researched it yet, so I don't know if it's true, but that. That's hilarious. If it's true because we just canceled DJ I and now.

[Jamie Vernon]

And he owns.

[Brian Redban]

I read that somewhere, but never.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay, what. What specifically? We'll find out.

[Brian Redban]

It was the. Supposedly the vice. I think it was the vice president owns a. Or is investor invested in a drone company and. And the U.S. is buying all these drones from it. Well, I think I might be wrong.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's an important thing to get. Correct.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I forgot that I might have.

[Jamie Vernon]

To edit this out if it's not correct.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Young Jamie, put that into our sponsor Perplexity and find out whether or not we have a AI sponsor.

[Brian Redban]

Perplexity. I like them. They were awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, they're great. Let's see if it has information. So there's one thing. It's like you can be an investor, right? Like. Like maybe you have a stock portfolio and you invest in a bunch of different companies because someone told you they're really good four years ago. When you become the vice president, are you supposed to get rid of those now? How's that work?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I wouldn't think you.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, it gets a little Nancy Pelosi ish.

[Brian Redban]

Maybe no new investments.

[Jamie Vernon]

We don't even know if he does have stock.

[Brian Redban]

It's probably not real. No way.

[Jamie Vernon]

Significant. T.

[Brian Redban]

The first.

[Jamie Vernon]

Make that a little larger please. Oh my God. This is the first sentence. J.D. vance has significant ties to the drone and broader defense technology industry through his previous career as a venture capitalist. Before entering political office, Vance co founded and managed funds that invested in several defense related startups including the companies at forefront of drone aerospace and surveillance technology. Okay, so. Oh, okay. This is Andrew. This is.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yep.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay. Interesting. Okay. Leading. Can you put that back up so I can finish those? Leading defense tech startup specializing in autonomous systems including drones. Palmer Luckey was on the podcast. He's. This is his company too. Oh, he brought these. Those crazy headsets where you could see people behind the walls, bro.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that shit's awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's all the same company benefiting from new federal legislation and growing Demand for advanced military drone surveillance and automation. Boy, we're so close to the terminator. Okay, here it is. Federal financing disclosure form show that Vance maintain those investments sometimes valued in the hundreds of thousands while serving as vice president. Although ethical boundaries about recusal and direct control over such assets are subject to federal ethics rules. So there's federal ethics rules as to what happens, like if he passes a law that benefits that company that it has a significant stake in. Vance has public commented on the national security dimensions of drone technology, Criticizing the risk posed by foreign particularly chinese drone manufacturers and advocating for u. S made autonomous autonomous systems in both military and civil sectors. Well, that is accurate though. It is a problem. And it's not just a problem because there's like a bunch of problems. One of them is in america to operate some drones when they get really high end, you have to have pilot's license.

[Brian Redban]

Not. Not if it weighs under 250 grams, which is what, you know, they're like the really nice small ones.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. But to have one of the ones, they're big ones New jersey with.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

When they were flying those weird one farm ones.

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Jamie Vernon]

What do you think those were? Do you think those were like government drones that they're testing? Probably this company.

[Brian Redban]

Probably that company. Right? Probably Palmer lucky with a joystick, assassinated.

[Jamie Vernon]

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[Brian Redban]

Yeah. With his game. Little Game Boy thing.

[Jamie Vernon]

Dude. He was one of those guys where you're talking to and you'll. And like, right away you're like, oh, okay. Like, you're crazy smart. Like, it's a weird. This is weird smart. You know what I mean? Yeah, some dudes are weird. Like, Elon's weird smart.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's people that are weird smart, you know? Oh, okay.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Palmer's a badass, man. Oh, yeah. Like, I saw an interview with him and it just showed, like, his living room or something, and it just looks like my living room. Like, like nerd stuff everywhere, you know?

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, yeah, for sure. He had a copper jacket on.

[Brian Redban]

A copper jacket?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, it's copper. I go, what is it? He's like, it's. The whole jacket's like a Faraday cage. Like, you put your jacket in, you put your phone in the pocket, it disappears. Ah. I was like, whoa, it was heavy.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I'm sure I put it on.

[Jamie Vernon]

I was like, this is weird. Like, you can't move so good in it.

[Brian Redban]

$20 worth of pennies.

[Jamie Vernon]

Probably. At least. Probably.

[Brian Redban]

At least.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was weird. It's a weird thing to own a copper jacket, but it's very Palmer Lucky esque. You know what I mean?

[Brian Redban]

It's interesting.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. So this drone thing, like, so China has been investing, like, the way it works. Their government and their corporations are like this. They work together and they work together for China, like, and you don't have a choice. Like, this is. You can make a lot of money, but you do what the we tell you to do, and that's how they run things over there. And because of that, they can dump a ton of money into these things for the future of China and. And boost them up and make them work. And then they all compete. They compete against each other in China, you know, and it's. It's like a weird hybrid of capitalism and communism. It's very strange. And they have a giant head start. Like they do drone shows. You've seen the shows? Well, they have, like, dragons in the sky and samurai.

[Brian Redban]

Have you ever been to one?

[Jamie Vernon]

Not like that.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

A small one right at Coda.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

At the Circuit of the Americas out here.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was pretty dope. But the ones they do are nuts. They're nuts.

[Brian Redban]

They just had like one of the biggest ones ever recently.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, see if you can find some video on some.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

China drone shows.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, they're.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's incredible. And their, their drones are more advanced. They, they, they're pushing their technology faster. And you know that stuff works exponentially. And if you put the brakes on American technology, you also put the brakes on American manufacturing. Look at that. That's nuts.

[Brian Redban]

That's insane. Each one of those is a drone.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's nuts, dude. I mean, that literally looks like something from Avatar, dude.

[Brian Redban]

Yes, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

Look at that. That's insane.

[Brian Redban]

DMT trip right there.

[Jamie Vernon]

Insane. Look at this. There's an enormous flower that's at the end of this little girl's kite rope. Look at.

[Brian Redban]

They did the moon spinning.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's crazy. Wait a minute, hold on. Are those real?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's real.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's real for sure. For sure.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's just on. That's the one I was talking about. The largest one ever.

[Jamie Vernon]

This is the largest one ever. Was it that. That we just saw?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Redban]

This is how they do it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Look how many drones they have. How many drones are involved in this?

[Brian Redban]

I think it's a 10,000 drones.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh my God. This is insane.

[Brian Redban]

Charge up. 10,000 drones.

[Jamie Vernon]

Dudes are doing kung fu in the sky.

[Brian Redban]

I mean, that's nuts. Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

That'S so impressive, man.

[Brian Redban]

It really is.

[Jamie Vernon]

And that they're all just sync. Oh, my God. Like, come on, man. At one point in time, some sometime in the near future, that, that, I mean, they're going to be able to do whatever they want in the sky.

[Assistant/Researcher]

We also have the sphere in America. They don't have a sphere.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You mean the big building?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, okay.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Well, I'm just saying.

[Jamie Vernon]

I get it.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Like, why don't we have that? Why can't we go.

[Jamie Vernon]

They probably will music like, but at some point in time, they're going to be able to have movies in the sky that are made out of drones.

[Brian Redban]

Drones. Yeah. Every drone's going to be like an LED and then it's going to replace.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, you'll be forced to watch a movie. You'll be forced to lay down on your lawn and watch a movie in the sky.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, why wouldn't they be able. If they can do that? This is very primitive, right? This is primitive. This is like the Pong version of what it just. They're just going to have trillions of little tiny drones that all sync up in the sky and they all make different colors.

[Brian Redban]

10,000. That's just like you know, this, like, small pixel, you know, we're gonna have, like, 4K drones everywhere.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, someone used a drone jammer, and they started falling out of the sky.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Whoa. Do you see what they're doing in Ukraine? Because the drone jammers, they use monofilament line, so each one of them has, like, a fiber optic line. Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, that's how they're, like, miles and miles of fishing line, and then all these birds are making nests out of it. And.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's how that government mission happened. Because of that, where he was, like, in that. In that truck or something like that, and all those drones came out of the truck and did all those strikes, and I think was the Ukraine or something like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

What happened?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, right.

[Jamie Vernon]

What exactly happened?

[Brian Redban]

So you. They had to use those fiber optic lines. There was a. I think it was Ukraine. I don't remember what country it is, but they got over the border of what other country it was, and they had all these drones with those fiber optic lines and did drone strikes from the inside that thing. Ukraine watched. I couldn't remember. On Russian stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, right, right, right. This was the crazy one. When they blew up all the jets that were on the Runway and they.

[Brian Redban]

Used that fiber optic line. That's how they got those drones to do that.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's how they got it. So the drones can't be disrupted.

[Brian Redban]

Right. Or.

[Jamie Vernon]

Or.

[Brian Redban]

Or detected or whatever, too.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's crazy.

[Brian Redban]

That's like James Bond. I mean, that's just like Mission Impossible.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know, the fact that. Yeah, that actually happened. Yeah, they really did do that. And I think they caused, like, $7 billion worth of damage. Yeah, yeah, bro. That war is one day, 24 hours. I'll have a deal. There's no deal to be made, sir. You know that. That Putin fell. Is making a point.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's not a good one. How many people have died now? I mean, what is the total on both sides? I mean, it's got to be off the charts.

[Brian Redban]

What. What is going on with. Was it we're in war with all those drug runners, and Trump keeps on blowing up a boat every day? Just. Yeah, that's kind of crazy, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

My question is, how verified is this evidence?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, how much you know, know? Because if I was a fisherman, and, like, there's another guy. Was a fisherman, like, this sucker. This guy is always stealing my fish. And then I would go, Mr. Trump.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

This man, he have fentanyl. Thousand pounds coming to you. I give you the boat number.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And it Happens a lot. I think two happened yesterday or today.

[Jamie Vernon]

Apple tracker.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Bait pile. Yeah, it's. It's weird.

[Brian Redban]

Yep.

[Jamie Vernon]

Here we go. Boom. That's wrap. Who is still piloting those boats?

[Brian Redban]

That's.

[Jamie Vernon]

Bro. Imagine how you. How poor do you have to be before that Seems like a good idea, right? Pretty poor.

[Brian Redban]

It just makes me wonder, though, if these boats. If there's, like, innocent people on them too.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, you know for sure this guy's bringing his girlfriend. Come on, baby. We're gonna go to the U.S.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah. There was one boat where people actually survived it, which is crazier. Bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

What kind of a story do they have? Oh, no. Is these people that survived, are they actual drug people or are they just, like, deep sea fishing?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Do you see that helicopter? Like, four people died. It's one of the most irritating, frustrating video ever. It just happened yesterday. This helicopter lost its.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, I did see that.

[Brian Redban]

And then landed twice on the water. And then for some reason went back up and then. That's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think they probably didn't know that they lost their tail.

[Brian Redban]

They have to. That's insane.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think he probably thought he could control it. It's probably a guy.

[Brian Redban]

And if I was in that helicopter, I would just open the door and jumped into the water and hopefully I survived at one point.

[Jamie Vernon]

Hopefully it doesn't land on you. This is just dropping it left and right. God, I bet it was a guy. I bet a woman would have, like, landed on the water. Okay, okay, Stop. Stop it. How do I stop it?

[Brian Redban]

They landed.

[Jamie Vernon]

Let's go. We're going in the water. A guy would be like, I got this. I got this, bro.

[Brian Redban]

Right? That's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. I wonder what happened. They clipped the tail somewhere. We hit something or did it fall off?

[Brian Redban]

Like, it looked like he. Because it looked like he was supposed to land on that little rock thing and then it clipped it, then went down and kind of landed on the beach for like a second. It went up a little, then landed again. And then he's just flying in the air. I don't even know that was possible without a tail of a helicopter. That seems crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

You can't direct it, right, Right. Yeah, Maybe it was. That was the problem, that he couldn't control it.

[Brian Redban]

I don't know. No, that's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Ask Bill Burr. Yeah, he flies those things. He took me up above downtown la. It was amazing. I was like, this is crazy. Like, this is so cool.

[Brian Redban]

I don't like how. I don't.

[Jamie Vernon]

He takes him to gig sometimes.

[Brian Redban]

That's crazy. Do you trust helicopter? I don't really.

[Jamie Vernon]

I trusted it for that day. I'm like, I'll trust it. It's fun to go up with Bill.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. It was fun to see him, like, really into this hobby he has. I was like, that's interesting.

[Brian Redban]

You know, it's really cool that he does it. He's. He's an interesting guy. I'm surprised you didn't go to Dubai.

[Jamie Vernon]

Me?

[Brian Redban]

No.

[Jamie Vernon]

You mean Saudi Arabia?

[Brian Redban]

Saudi Arabia. Dubai, bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't even go to San Francisco.

[Brian Redban]

I go to Glendale.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. You think I'm going to go to. No, no, no. I think if you chase money when you have money, then money owns you.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

My time is what's valuable to me. And also, I'm not down with that whole thing. No, there's a. There's definitely a whitewashing. You're. You're up. You know, Schultz has a great argument. You're going to see your fans, like, just because this is put on by a government that does bad things or has done bad things. Guess what? Your government does bad things, too and has done bad things. Right. You know, ask people in Yemen how they feel about America. Right? Ask people in Iraq. That's the million people that died unnecessarily because we lied about weapons and mass destruction. Ask them. Ask them about America. You know?

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. It's complicated. I get the argument. Like, I have fans in the Middle East. You want to go see your fans in the Middle East? I get it.

[Brian Redban]

How many fans? One.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know. I bet a lot. They have the Internet, man. I bet a lot. Yeah, they do. It's not like North Korea. They're much more open than other parts of the world. You know, we can't judge them on. Obviously, we can judge them, but if you want to be rational, like, they're adjusted. Like, women can drive now. All right. It's a new thing. It's very recent. Andrew Schultz was telling me when he was over there that a lot of people that. That are over there, they get their wife, like, a cheap Chinese car. Because these ladies have never driven before. They just. They just play bumper cars. They park terrible. They're always their cars up. And these guys have big money. I mean, that's a very wealthy country, you know? So they. They offered Shane a bag. They offered Shane a bag. He's like, no. Then they doubled it, and they doubled it. He's like, no, no. He goes, it was hard, but they doubled it. I'm like, of course that's that's how they're trying to get you. But, you know, the criticism is all from people that were not invited, which is kind of typical.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And we're. Or we're never going to be invited. Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

It's.

[Jamie Vernon]

It'd be good for them to experience comedy because I think comedy is one of the only things that can get discussions going from both sides. Like, if you go on stage and you have an opinion and it's not funny, I could be in the audience. I have a different opinion. I'm like, well, fuck this guy. I don't agree with that at all. But if you go on stage with an opinion that makes me laugh even if I don't agree with it, I'm like, oh, this motherfucker. He got me. He got me. That's a good point. That's a good boy. And you're like, giving your buddies knuckles. That's a good point. That's like, where comedy breaks down doors. Unfortunately, there was, like, restrictions put on you, which is another reason why I wouldn't do it. Like, if someone says, you can't say this or you can't say that, I'm like, okay, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

And then you say something like, well, I didn't think about that. You shouldn't have said that either. We're going to.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, there's law. Like, if you went over there and made fun of a prince or a king or a royal or the government or whatever, you're in real trouble. Like, you could go to jail forever. Trouble. That doesn't make me feel loose. Right. You know, that doesn't make me feel like I want to do stand up in a place like that.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Almost like the uk. Yikes.

[Jamie Vernon]

They're worse than anybody. That's what's funny. Most people don't even know know there. Most Americans are blissfully un unaware of how crazy censorship has gotten in the uk. Crime and censorship because people are complaining about the crime.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's really what the censorship is all about.

[Brian Redban]

Because it's all about immigrants, pickpocketers everywhere, bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

They just brought in people from places they bombed. How wild is that? Like, oh, do we ruin your country? So sorry. Come on over and live in lo Saudi Arabia of them all the places that the west is bombed the out of. And you create all these refugees and then you bring them to your country. Like, what are you doing?

[Brian Redban]

It's insane.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why you. Why don't you have a vetting process? Are you trying to ruin everything? And that's where I think it gets Weird because I think like under the guise of empathy and under the guise of kindness, they are engineering the destruction of major western cities. And the question is, like, who? Well, George Soros is the big one that everybody points to, but he can't be acting alone. There's got to be a lot of other people that also want the same result. And you got to go, well, why? And the more I think about it, the more I think about it with its accelerated pace right now, because it's so accelerated, the more I think it's connected to the, the, to the ultimate, the, the, the ultimate birth of AI. When AI really does become the global force for everything, they're going to want you already locked into like digital id. And that's the first response that England has had to all these problems. It's not stop immigration, it's not crackdown, find the criminals, arrest them. No, no, it's put everybody on digital ID to keep us all safe.

[Brian Redban]

Safe.

[Jamie Vernon]

And that's. So once you see if they do have AI, AI is in control of everything, everything you do. All your money, all your food, all your groceries. They put carbon taxes on you so they can complete control you. You have a carbon allotment. So if you go over your carbon footprint, the, that you can't travel anymore. So you're totally locked in. They want all that stuff in place and the only way to get that stuff in place is to create chaos. So you want to like newly super restrictive laws get people. So they're terrified and they want safety. Someone offers a solution and that solution involves them being able to track you everywhere you go. And everybody has to have it. Everyone. Yes. This is the solution to make us all safe. And the next thing you know, you're in a fucking Orwell book.

[Brian Redban]

But on the other side, I do like the idea of having this, my driver's license on my phone. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, why not just get a chip? Don't be a, get the forearm chip, you know that's coming.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, yeah, get that chip, son. Brain chip.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, no, don't get the brain one. Wait, you know, it's like you don't go right into an iPhone. You get a BlackBerry first.

[Brian Redban]

Do you think Elon has the brain chip and he's not telling anybody?

[Jamie Vernon]

No, I think Elon's an alien.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. He's not real. Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't think he's from here. If there's a person that's not from here, that's the guy.

[Brian Redban]

Trillion dollar.

[Jamie Vernon]

He's a different kind of Human. And he's having fun. That's the thing, man. Like, like I'm friends with him. Like I've hung out with him on air, off air. He's having fun. Like he's having fun. That's what I want. He's like, works constantly and also always laughing, having a good time. Like, I got to see the SpaceX launch and then Jamie and I was there on the lawn while it was launching. It was crazy. It was two miles away. I thought it was like a quarter of a mile or half a mile because it's so loud. Two miles, two miles away. And then I got to sit in the command room and watch them. They had all these monitors, like I don't know how many different cameras were on this rocket. And we watched it touch down in Australia 35 minutes later.

[Brian Redban]

That's so cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was wild, dude. But all the way he's joking around about it blowing up.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Because what they're doing with these is they were running, he was explaining to us on the show that they were running very specific tolerance tests. So they would remove heat shields in critical areas to see whether or not the vehicle will survive. So one of the things about the blow ups people like, oh, he's a idiot. He keeps blowing up his rockets. He's. They're designed to possibly blow up because they want to find out what's the, what can it tolerate, right? And so they had removed these heat shields from very specific places, but it still made it. And so it got, it lost pressure like somewhere over Australia. And there was like only a 30% chance that it was going to touch down, but it did.

[Brian Redban]

Wow, that's so.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's wild, man. It's wild. It's wild how much data they're collecting instantaneously. And it was also practicing this thing that the way it shoots satellites into space, it's like a PEZ dispenser. So it has like these things, these satellites are all on a rack and then this thing opens up that looks like, you know, like, like a, just a, a long flat opening like a PEZ would come out of. And then they shoot these satellites out of it. And they were practicing that.

[Brian Redban]

That's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm like, this is nuts. This is nuts. It's really weird. Like the door opens up and you, you're watching. Like, this is crazy. I don't think everybody understands how advanced this stuff is. Like, I thought Jamie, you felt the same way, right? When we were going down to the factory, I thought they'd have a rocket that they built? No, they're building like hundreds of rockets. Like it's assembly plant.

[Brian Redban]

That kind of style.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, it's huge. It's fucking huge, man. At one point in time, what did they say they were going to be able to do? 3 a week. Week.

[Brian Redban]

That's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wasn't it something crazy like that?

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't remember how many. Well, they have to do a lot, but yeah, I don't remember how many.

[Jamie Vernon]

That was the ultimate goal.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I feel like more than that.

[Jamie Vernon]

More than that. Maybe three a day. I don't know. Three a week. Let's just say three a week. Rockets that can go to space. It's in the process is bananas. You can't take pictures. I don't even know if we're allowed to get specific. But while you're walking around and you're looking at. I want. Wouldn't be able to explain it to anybody, right? The Chinese listening. Careful. What does Rogan say?

[Brian Redban]

Pez dispenser.

[Jamie Vernon]

Write that down. But it's. It's nuts. They have garage doors that are as high as a skyscraper. And then they roll out a rocket. You're like, yo, this is nuts. It's really like truly nuts.

[Brian Redban]

That's awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

And the outside of it is just like. Like a cybertruck factory. Like what is going on here? Whose car is whose? How does anybody know? That's the argument. Like if you ever want to have. Like if someone's gonna totally completely track everything you do forever, it's gonna be an electric car. Oh yeah, right. Because that's just. You're just driving a computer. You don't even have an engine anymore. Yeah, I mean it's all. Everything's electric. Electric computer controlled vehicle. That self your ambition just met its match. With Robin Hood. You play for the win. Not just on game day, every day channel that drive into your money. Trade stocks and ETFs, options and futures all on one platform. You expect more from yourself, expect more from your money. Get started [e-mail] your money, your money, your move. This episode is brought to you by Dodge. The 2026 Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat is all about one thing. Unlocking performance. With 710 horsepower, 645 pound feet of torque and a supercharged 6.2 liter Hemi V8 under the hood, the Dodge Durango SRT Hellcat Is the most powerful SUV in the segment. It's also insanely capable, towing up to 8,700 pounds with seating up to seven. That's best in class. Muscle in a three row SUV. Plus you can jailbreak it and customize the hell out of it. The SRT Hellcat jailbreak has over 6 million possible configurations. You can customize everything from paint to wheels to badging to seats. Make it your own. This isn't a quiet suv. It's loud, it's fast, it's powerful and unapologetically Dodge. Learn more [e-mail] Based on the latest competitive information available, IHS standard full size cuv segment and horsepower drives itself. Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Have you tried one of the robo taxis yet?

[Jamie Vernon]

No way. I would feel like such a scab.

[Brian Redban]

Wait.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like a picket line crosshair.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I do have a question. Have you gotten a colonoscopy?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, I got one now.

[Brian Redban]

Do you go to a regular doctor? Because that I was thinking like, does.

[Jamie Vernon]

Joe probably go to a butthole doctor?

[Brian Redban]

No, I mean like do you, do you go to like a private guy? Like you don't go to like where.

[Jamie Vernon]

All the other on air where I get my butthole check.

[Brian Redban]

Like that's like weird. I just had one and.

[Jamie Vernon]

How's everything up there?

[Brian Redban]

Good. Everything's great.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's amazing.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's so amazing, right? It doesn't make any sense.

[Jamie Vernon]

What do you think about when you abuse your body?

[Brian Redban]

But I hate that they have to roll you like when you're getting it. They roll you down this hallway and there's all these like people just sitting there looking at like, oh, it's his turn. Yeah, like we're really doing it. Red band like type shit. And I, I, that was just, it's just weird. It's not, it's very.

[Jamie Vernon]

Do you get your blood work done?

[Brian Redban]

Do you get yourself checked up every six weeks? I do it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. There unique blood screen that they can give you now that checks for all cancers in your body.

[Brian Redban]

Really? Oh, I need that. We're just doing it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Waste. Well do it.

[Brian Redban]

Oh really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, yeah, I did it. I got nervous. Yeah, I got nervous. Like the first time I ever got an AIDS test, I got an AIDS test in first time. I'm been getting them a lot lately. Been getting them a lot lately.

[Brian Redban]

Do it every six weeks.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was in the 90s, I was getting health insurance for the first time and it was like early 90s, like 92, something like that. And I was like, oh no. I was just thinking of all the stupid things that I've ever done, right? What if I have AIDS and I don't even know that's how everybody thought then.

[Brian Redban]

And the mosquitoes then after A while.

[Jamie Vernon]

Everyone was like, hey, no one's really getting aids, right? What's going on?

[Brian Redban]

I was scared of AIDS too.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, everybody was, dude. I remember the moment I found out that Michael. That Magic Johnson was HIV positive. I was in my car in Revere, Massachusetts, driving on the road and you him. And he was right next door, right next to me with his dick out. I was like, you didn't tell me that dude was the first one that everyone was scared. Like, oh, no, he can get it. If he can get it, he's a superstar. Yeah, if Magic Johnson get it, I'm gonna die. I'm fucked. Oh, my God. And I really. We really thought that it was going to be like a zombie contagion that swept through the world and everyone was gonna die because they were talking, like Fauci was on TV talking about children getting it from family members, like, that it was communicable, like, like in the air, like. Like the flu. It was so spooky, man. That guy scared the out of everybody when it came to aids, just like he did with COVID How weird. How weird that he did it again.

[Brian Redban]

Isn't it crazy to think that Easy E died for maids?

[Jamie Vernon]

How did Easy really die, though? He must have taken azt. You know, the idea that Eazy died from AIDS itself, like it's mostly drug users. That was what. Who was dying in the early days of aids. And this is what Peter Duesberg said. So. Peter Duesberg, he's like a Persona non grata in the medical world. And it's because he had a completely different opinion than everybody else when AIDS first came out. He was like one piece of data that are not taken into consideration is that all these people that have aids, Acquired Immune deficiency Syndrome, not just HIV positive, but all the people that have aids, all of them are hardcore drug users. It was like 90 something percent of people that had air quotes, AIDS and that they weren't. I don't know whether it's political correctness or what. It was a lot of gay party guys and these guys were taking hardcore, like amyl nitrate, which apparently loosens up the old booty hole, makes it easy to, as the kids say today, bottom. They didn't used to call it bottom back then. They were calling it butt. Now it's bottoming, you know? Have you seen whole talks?

[Brian Redban]

No, what's that?

[Jamie Vernon]

Guys get Botox on their hole to make it looser. Yeah. To make bottoming easier. They call it whole talks.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

If you leave men to their own devices, they will Come up with the worst things to do to themselves. Yeah, but so that was so Duesberg, his contention. And it was like. I remember we had him on the podcast, and it was the first time we got, like, violent pushback. People like, you have blood on your hands. I'm like, who's dying of AIDS right now? This. Because this was like, 2012 or something. I'm like, who's dying of AIDS? Is this a real thing? Because I'm just bringing on this guy from the University of California, Berkeley, who's a tenured professor who did groundbreaking breaking research on cancer. Was, like, really respected until he took this position on HIV that was outside of the Fauci narrative. And he was like, I don't think that's what we're looking at here. He goes, I think HIV is a symptom of someone having a very compromised immune system. I don't think it's the cause. And they were like, you monster. You have blood on your hands. Like, I remember there was an article written in one of those magazines, like Spin magazine or something like that. Spin, back in the day, you know, one of those, like, Cool. Yeah, they used to have cool music magazines. Like, Spin was a cool music.

[Brian Redban]

There was another one. What was the other one? Max. Max.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, no. Maximum was like a guy's magazine. But, like, remember Rolling Stone? Used to be cool. Used to be cool. So, like, what? Before it was like a propaganda arm. It was. It was like, you'd get interesting stories, and this was in. I think it was Spin magazine.

[Brian Redban]

Spin, yeah. There was another one that was like, Spin. That's what I'm trying to remember.

[Jamie Vernon]

See if you can find Peter Duberg article. Aids.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Easy. Died only a month after he was diagnosed.

[Jamie Vernon]

Whoa.

[Brian Redban]

He went full blown that fast?

[Assistant/Researcher]

He might have been diagnosed with full blow, I think.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. Wow.

[Assistant/Researcher]

And some rapper thinks there's a conspiracy that he was killed by the government.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, that's fun.

[Brian Redban]

I mean, Ice Cube had that whole album saying that he got in the ass by Dr. Dre in a baseball bat. No Vaseline or whatever.

[Jamie Vernon]

So, yeah, well, who knows? Don't you remember when Suge Knight was on. I think he was on Jimmy Kimmel show, talking about how you just inject somebody with aids. Aids?

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You can inject them with aids.

[Brian Redban]

Like the mosquitoes.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. What was my question? Oh, Peter Duesberg, Spin magazine. Yeah. So he wrote this article about it, and then he. I believe he wrote a book about it. But he's fucked. Like, his career completely stalled out after that. He couldn't get funding for things and, you know, widely dismissed by almost all other scientists. And back then, I used to think it doesn't make sense that this one guy has figured things out. Out and that nobody else does. But now I'm like, maybe it's the same as what happened during COVID but maybe back then, there's no Internet, and maybe back then they could just get away with it. Maybe back then they got used to getting away with it, which is why they tried it again in 2020. That's why they did the exact same thing to all those, like, legitimate professors, legitimate doctors. They shamed them and banned them. They didn't want anybody deviating. And that's, I think, what they might have done to this guy. That's crazy to think that the. The whole AIDS crisis might have really been about people destroying their immune system through hardcore drug use. That was his contention. People were saying it's very homophobic. It's like, okay, let's not. Let's say a bunch of nice things about gay people. Let's. We love them. We appreciate. You know, I have no problem with gay. Let's say, like, if you're talking about this, if you're a doctor back then, gay people are amazing. However, all these gay people are doing drugs. All these gay people that are getting AIDS, like, something like 90 of them were hardcore drug users. This was his contention. And you would say, well, that's what opens them to the type of behavior that you get AIDS with. Like, okay, right. But Sam Kinison had a bit about that. Do you remember his bit? He was like, they say, sam, AIDS is a communicable disease. Straight people get it too. You'll stay one. Name one fucking guy. Name one. It's not our fucking dance.

[Assistant/Researcher]

He didn't write the article, but he's definitely in the article, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

There was an article about him. Yeah, yeah. No, he didn't write the article. Did I say he wrote it? No, no.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I'm just for clarification, because I didn't.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, it was an article about. Yeah. Bob Guccioni, Spin magazine. Isn't he the guy that owns Penthouse? I think so. Right? Bobcione Jr. Founder of Spin? Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Okay, listen to this. So this is what he wrote, what Bob Guccione Jr. Wrote. Scroll up a little higher. At the end of 1989, two years after we started the highly controversial AIDS column in Spin, we published an article by Cecilia Farber called the Sins of Omission, about the truly bad and corrupt science surrounding promoting AZT as A treatment for the syndrome of diseases. Celia was the editor and frequent writer of the column and unearthed hard evidence of the cold bloodedness of the AIDS establishment, pushing a drug that was worse than the disease and killed faster than the natural progression of aids. Left untreated, AZT had been an abandoned cancer drug, discarded because of its fatal toxicity, resurrected in the cynical belief that AIDS patients were going to die anyway. So trying it out was sort of like playing with the house's money because the drug didn't require the usual massive, expensive research and trial processes. Having gone through that years earlier, it was insanely profitable for its maker, Burroughs. Welcome. It was a tragically perfect storm of windfall profits, something to pacify AIDS activists and the media, and a convenient boom to the patient holders for HIV testing. Patent, excuse me, patent owners, patent holders for HIV testing. Celia, who should get the Congressional Medal of Medal of Honor for her brave and relentless reporting here and throughout the 10 years we ran the column, exposed the worthlessness of the drug, the shady studies and deals to suppress the negative findings and its awful and final consequences. This piece was. This piece very literally changed the media's view of AIDS and sharpened their discerning and skeptical eye. And soon after, AZT was once again shelved, hopefully this time forever. Many times over the years since, people have come up to me and said that reading this article saved their lives, that they either stopped taking the drug and their health improved vastly, or they never took it because of what we reported. Nothing ever made me prouder. Bob Guccioni Jr. Founder of Spin October 3, 2015 so this is all this article is all about Peter Duesberg's perspective on this. And it's very complicated. And it's certainly not for me, a guy like me, to figure out if he's telling the truth or if he's correct. But what they said about AZT and chemotherapy and pushing AZT through and how they made a bunch of money, that's all true. They were not only that, but they were giving AZT to people that showed no symptoms, like Arthur Ashe. Arthur Ash tested positive. They gave him azt. There's a bunch of people died from taking AZT that probably didn't have to die, right? That's scary shit, man. If it's the same guy that pushed the vaccine during the AIDS crisis, during the COVID crisis, it's kind of that he got to do it twice.

[Brian Redban]

Serial killer.

[Jamie Vernon]

And if he didn't do it twice, nobody probably would be aware that it was the same guy. Because even if you know about azt Nobody was going, anthony Fauci. Nobody was saying that guy's name, you know, you weren't saying when you would talk about the AIDS crisis, even. They even made a movie about it, right? Dallas Buyers Club. That's the fucking movie. That's what it's about. The bad guy in Dallas Buyers Club is Anthony Fauci.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yes.

[Brian Redban]

I need to rewatch it.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's the guy keeping them from getting other medications and pushing azt. They did the same thing. We. We played a video the other day where Fauci is talking about azt. The reason why they use it is because it's both safe and effective. He used the exact same terminology. Wild.

[Brian Redban]

It's wild.

[Jamie Vernon]

And then when Biden's leaving office, he gives him a pardon. Big old juicy pardon.

[Brian Redban]

That's ridiculous.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's kind of funny. It is kind of funny, right? It's like, God, when it's so in your face, the corruption's so, like, up your ass and in your face, like.

[Brian Redban]

Bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

What are you gonna do?

[Brian Redban]

I don't know.

[Jamie Vernon]

Move to New York, become a socialist.

[Brian Redban]

Try that out. No, thanks. That's going to be interesting to see what happens in New York.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Most likely he's not going to be able to do most of the stuff he said he was going to do, because he'll find out you can't.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, I heard all these CEOs are moving out of there. And the stock market, I heard, is moving. I don't know if that's real. Is that real? Stock market's moving to Texas, I heard.

[Jamie Vernon]

What?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, no, stock market here.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's similar, but I don't think it's the same.

[Jamie Vernon]

But you gotta have a Ten Commandments on the wall and check your gun at the door.

[Brian Redban]

I just got my first gun. I can't wait to shoot it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Congratulations.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

So easy. Shadow Systems. War Poet.

[Jamie Vernon]

Whoa.

[Brian Redban]

War Poet.

[Jamie Vernon]

That sounds like something.

[Brian Redban]

Aubrey Marcus, right? The whole time I'm like, wait, is this Aubrey's gun? He's got a signature gun. Yes. Shadow system, though. It's like a Glock 19 is, you.

[Jamie Vernon]

Know, okay, but nine millimeter.

[Brian Redban]

Nine millimeter.

[Jamie Vernon]

Have you gone to the range yet?

[Brian Redban]

Not yet. I need to go. I. I want to get a scope for it, though, too. Like one of those laser scopes.

[Jamie Vernon]

Red dot.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, red dot. Don't say.

[Jamie Vernon]

A scope.

[Brian Redban]

Scope. And of course, I need to get a silencer and all the fun stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, God.

[Brian Redban]

But it's so crazy how easy it is, you know? I didn't know it was Literally walk in, go, I want a gun. And they do a little background check and go, here's your gun. Like, you don't have to register it.

[Jamie Vernon]

And they just make sure you're not a criminal.

[Brian Redban]

Right? Yeah, it's great.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, it's better.

[Brian Redban]

And you don't even need to do that. You could literally give somebody a gun in this state and go, here, that's your gun. Now, like, gift a gun.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's the craziest thing about this country is the place with the most gun violence are the cities that have the tightest gun control.

[Brian Redban]

Right. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, boy, you talk about counterintuitive.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I wonder if that's our same problem with drugs. I really do. I mean, I don't necessarily think it's gonna be good to have all drugs legal and sold everywhere. I just don't think it's necessarily good for us. But also, it's not good to not do it. It's not good to, like, make it illegal, because then people are just gonna get it somewhere else.

[Brian Redban]

Right. And bad versions of it.

[Jamie Vernon]

It. This is my argument against gambling, too. Like, especially online gambling. You know, if online gambling becomes somehow or another illegal, like, if they stop with these apps, like, let's say some people decide, look, there's so many people that are losing their money and going crazy and getting addicted to sports books that we're gonna have to ban all these apps that allow you to bet on sports. And then there's a scandal that happened with the NBA, and there's another scandal with the ufc. So it's clear that organized crime is getting involved, and people are trying to make money with rigging bets and like that. So we're going to make it illegal. You think people are going to stop betting? It's just going to be like, during the prohibition. During the prohibition, what did they do? They went out and they bought illegal booze. They're going to go out and they're going to support illegal gambling. They're going to go to people's houses where they're going to have poker games and they're going to get robbed. You know, it's gonna. You're just gonna open people up to crime. You're gonna open people up to the kind of people that are willing to risk their freedom in order to have an illegal game so they can make money. Those are wild people, man. That's the same people bringing in fentanyl. That's why they have to blow these boats up. The reason why they have to blow these boats up is because fentanyl's coming in. The reason why fentanyl's coming in is because we don't have legal drugs. We have to get it illegally and we got a shit ton of junkie. The drugs are illegal, but they're somehow now they're getting here to the point where they've ruined Portland. The whole city is filled with junkies. You got people like homeless people everywhere. Complete chaos. It's all drugs.

[Brian Redban]

I think that fentanyl bin looks sexy on a girl though.

[Jamie Vernon]

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[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, some people are doing, like, amazing yoga. Like, I've done yoga. It's hard. It's hard to stay still. These dudes, like, on the street, like, literally looking at their.

[Brian Redban]

It's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Looking back at their one leg forward, like, face sniffing their own butt. And somehow or another, they just hold that position with, like, their hand out here like this.

[Brian Redban]

Crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

It must feel so good.

[Brian Redban]

But legal gambling is what's killing Vegas, right? Like, the whole Vegas is in a lot of trouble.

[Jamie Vernon]

Vegas is in a little bit of trouble. I think the problem with Vegas is things got super expensive. They started charging people for parking. You know, they stopped giving as many free drinks at the tables. You know, there's some. And. But that might have been a response to losing money, too. I don't know. But that's what a lot of people complain about.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And that's sad because, I mean, that's.

[Jamie Vernon]

Vegas is a tricky place because if you could do what you could do everywhere and not have to go to Vegas for it, what is it to have for you?

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

All it has is, like, big event centers and the fact that you go there for a vacation. So, like, they. That's why they're trying to get people to do, like, they do residencies, you know, like, Celine Dion had the residency there, and I think. What's his face? Garth Brooks had a residency there.

[Brian Redban]

And a sphere, I guess they have to make stuff like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

The sphere.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, you can only go there's. They're building some extra spheres, right?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

The original goal was to have three of them, and I think now they've reeled back on that. There's.

[Brian Redban]

There's some.

[Assistant/Researcher]

A smaller one I saw getting made somewhere.

[Brian Redban]

There's many. Spears are blowing up now everywhere. They just opened up one in Dallas, and I want to invest in that company.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's a separate thing. But there's one place that allows you to be in front of a screen that is so big, it feels like you're on the field. Right. I've seen that.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, that. The one we're talking about.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's weirdly called Cosm, and I don't think it's related to.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

The other place.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's not. It's not Chapel of Sacred Mirrors. That's his. Why Alex Gray. Leave him alone. He owns Cosm. You can't call it. Oh, you know, that's Chapel of Circuit.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Sacred Marriage made that sweet Matrix version of the movie. That's only.

[Brian Redban]

I want to see her.

[Jamie Vernon]

What do you mean?

[Assistant/Researcher]

I'll show you.

[Brian Redban]

It's.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's insane.

[Brian Redban]

You haven't seen this?

[Jamie Vernon]

No. COSM did this.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. You could still go. I think. I think they have it in Dallas. I want to go.

[Assistant/Researcher]

So that called Matrix and shared reality.

[Jamie Vernon]

What? Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Find the video of the Matrix.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wait a minute.

[Brian Redban]

This is a company to invest in?

[Jamie Vernon]

I think so. Well, it's the greatest way to see a fight.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's probably better than going live.

[Brian Redban]

It is probably.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's the same screen. You're watching it there.

[Brian Redban]

I'll probably.

[Assistant/Researcher]

But like, that's the movie in the middle. And then they've added all the extra around it to like, add whatever, you know, nonsense to look at. But they did the similar thing with the wizard of Oz. Like, I saw people complaining the wizard of Oz that the sphere is full of AI because they expanded the screen.

[Brian Redban]

But they did it right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah. I've seen though. It looks kind of neat.

[Brian Redban]

It looks badass.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Like they got the tornado flying around.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why are people upset?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Because people are nonsense.

[Jamie Vernon]

They want the old one. You can still get the old one.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's not a spear.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You're at the sphere. Shut the up. Enjoy it. Oh, I want it to be like the old one. I want it to be grainy and make me feel about. Like apple pie. Reminds me. Remind me of the olden days.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

When that was a good movie, bro. You know how many people died from the wizard of Oz? Like. Like how many people got sick like that dude. To have the Tin Man. That guy got up from that stuff.

[Brian Redban]

Makeup. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of happened.

[Jamie Vernon]

Isn't that crazy? Yeah, the makeup got him.

[Brian Redban]

There was a. I think over 10 things that happened, like. Like that on the wizard of Oz. There's a lot of like happened, like. Well, I don't know if that hanging guy was real, but remember that guy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Did someone hang this?

[Brian Redban]

Hung himself and he. Was that real? I don't think that was real. Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

No.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's definitely like one of the longest lasting urban myths about it though.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

But like, what happened to the Tin Man?

[Brian Redban]

It was the makeup that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right, but what happened to him?

[Assistant/Researcher]

I'm looking it up.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think it was bad. You gotta imagine, like, how toxic is that stuff? Especially back then. This was like back when they had the radium girls. Do you know about that?

[Brian Redban]

The witch. The witch had something happened to her too.

[Jamie Vernon]

Buddy Epson originally cast and rolls. The wood man, AKA the Tin man, was essentially poisoned by the makeup, which was made of pure aluminum dust. Oh, my God. Nine days after Filming started. He was hospitalized, sitting under an oxygen tent. When he's not getting better fast enough, the filmmakers hired Jack Haley to be the Tin man instead. This time, instead of applying aluminum powder, the makeup artist mixed up it into a paste and painted it on him. He did develop an infection in his right eye that needed medical attention, but it ended up being treatable. So that guy just left him?

[Assistant/Researcher]

He lost the role.

[Jamie Vernon]

He Rossed the role.

[Brian Redban]

Wow, that's.

[Jamie Vernon]

So whatever happened to him afterwards? Let's find out what happened to Buddy Epson after the looks. Wonder if he survived. No, that can't be him.

[Brian Redban]

Wait, that's the original guy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wait, that's him.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I mean, they replay replaced him.

[Jamie Vernon]

It can't. Right? But it can't be Buddy Epson from the Beverly Hillbillies. It can't be the same guy.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I mean, how many.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's what I'm saying. How many Buddy Epsons are there? What did that just say? Oh, yeah, that's him. So he got lucky.

[Brian Redban]

Maybe.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Maybe it never would have been Jed Clampett because.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It couldn't have been the Tin Man.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's nuts, man.

[Brian Redban]

His face looks like a Tin man now that you look at it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is that definitely the same guy?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Man.

[Jamie Vernon]

Does it say that right here.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Best known for roles as Jed Clampett.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right, right. But. But does it say that he was in.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, there's a little Tin man, like the second pitcher over.

[Jamie Vernon]

I know, but that might be the other one. Is that the same guy? We'll look in his Wikipedia, because I.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Think there's two different famous Buddy Epsons.

[Jamie Vernon]

I know. What are the odds? Well, the other guy. Maybe he's dead. Maybe he didn't get famous. This guy jacked his name.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah, it's signed by mgm.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wizard of Oz. There it is. Wow. That's him. He was the original wizard of Oz.

[Brian Redban]

Sexy. Wow. Sexy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Poisoned his ass. That's nuts.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I got sick off of her stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, she was wearing green, Right?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Burns from the makeup.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, she got burned. Copper makeup so that it wouldn't seep through her wounds and become toxic. Unlike Epson, she didn't get fired because they could live without her on the set. That for several more weeks. Oh, my God.

[Brian Redban]

Then since false, the actor didn't hang himself.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm one of them playing the Munchkins. True. Someone stepped on Toto. Oh, no, skip that part. Yeah, Those movies are weird to watch now because you realize that wasn't that long ago in terms of human history, and people were just weird back then.

[Brian Redban]

Nuts.

[Jamie Vernon]

So what does the sphere version of the wizard of Oz look like?

[Brian Redban]

So they. They, as an example, it's normal in the middle, Right. But then they built everything around it. So, like when there's a tornado, the original movie just had like a little spinny tornado. Now they make this humongous tornado. Like when. Where you could see like the. This. The clouds in the sky and this monster trunk of a tornado. It. It's so awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Who would complain about that?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, people just hear AI don't change my movies. And they're.

[Jamie Vernon]

I went to see. I just wanted to. A big version of the same old shitty movie.

[Brian Redban]

Right. And while that tornado is going on, they have like, things flying through the air in. For real.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like drones.

[Brian Redban]

No, no. Like things that are supposed to look like dust and stuff. Like, look at that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, my God, that's amazing.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Giant fans in there and they have to throw debris in there and.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wow. Oh, my God. That's incredible. Why would anybody complain about that? You know, when they did the UFC there, I think the. It was at least 20 million. Oh, they spread it out. Do that again.

[Assistant/Researcher]

They had the ad stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

Actors would have been doing that.

[Assistant/Researcher]

You never know what they would. That's. That's what I saw. People were mad about whether they were.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, yeah, that guy looks fake.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's just.

[Brian Redban]

Well, no, no, this is. This is like not the final version. Like, that's.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, that's when they're working on it.

[Brian Redban]

That's when they were working on it still.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

So they had to have him walk into. Look at that.

[Brian Redban]

Wow. I mean, it looks badass. I want to go really bad. I'm going to go there next month to go see something.

[Assistant/Researcher]

So. Not the whole movie.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think it's not. No, I thought it was.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't think they did the entire thing. I guess if the movie's two hours, I think it's an hour and a half or something like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, well, that's not.

[Assistant/Researcher]

They want to cut out some songs or something.

[Jamie Vernon]

You're not supposed to do that because then it's not going to sync up.

[Brian Redban]

Right. Yeah. I wish they would do that, though. Like, if you go there, you. You get headphones and listen to the Pink Floyd. Why you that be badass?

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, you would bring your phone.

[Brian Redban]

Oh.

[Jamie Vernon]

And you would sync it up.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

So that would piss me off if they it up and made it an hour and a half instead of two hours. And I just dropped acid.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And I was ready.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I'm going go see Zach Brown Band there next month. So what is he doing in there? He's. He's got a residency there. He's doing the Sphere. And he.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is he doing with, like, the crazy?

[Brian Redban]

I don't know. He said he. He said he was working on. They've been working on a lot of cool stuff, but I didn't ask him. Like.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, you probably can't tell you anyway, right. Right. Until the thing. So who's been there? They had.

[Brian Redban]

Grateful Dead, Fish.

[Jamie Vernon]

Fish, right? Was it Fish?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, Fish was there and I think started it.

[Jamie Vernon]

You two started it, right? You two did the first one.

[Brian Redban]

And the Backstreet Boys or something weird like that was there in sync. Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Backstage Boys. When I was. I was there the weekend it started, and I was walking around wondering why everyone was dressed in white.

[Brian Redban]

They saw.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't know how you do this and how you tell people to do this. Everyone showed up in white for the backstory. Every show. 20, 000 people.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

For the Backstreet Boys. Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Mostly girls.

[Jamie Vernon]

Guys too. Wait, I don't know how you. What is that all about?

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't know. It was very strange walking around Vegas and everyone dressed in white jeans, white shirts.

[Brian Redban]

Ew. What.

[Assistant/Researcher]

What is happening?

[Brian Redban]

Happening?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Oh, the Backstreet Boys are here. And you leave at 11:30 and they're all walking around drunk and still all.

[Jamie Vernon]

Brother. Backstreet Boys were huge. When I was 21. If you had told me when I was 38, they would be playing in the most sophisticated dome, most sophisticated auditorium, whatever you want to call it, stadium that anyone's ever performed. And I'm like, what?

[Brian Redban]

And selling it out.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I got the list of acts now.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Zach Brown starts in a couple weeks.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

No doubts coming in May.

[Brian Redban]

No doubt. Yep.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Chesney's also been there.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know how much money it must cost to run? Cuz the UFC budget was way over because of it. Because they had these big crazy animated things that were going on in the background. Was cool as man. Just walking into the building the first time, I was like, this is nuts.

[Brian Redban]

That's awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, it was. It was really, truly impressive. And I guess the outside is insane too, you know?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's cool. The. The visuals they have on this that like the advertisement too. Like, you know, they'll just have like Samsung phones on this big.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, yeah. After a while, it's just going to be drones in the sky. Just pixel sized drones. Just trillions of them playing a movie out. I mean, that sounds crazy, but so does a screen. So does it. You Know, Right. A giant. I was watching some guy reviewing the biggest TV you can buy. Now it's like 118 inches.

[Brian Redban]

130 I think.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is it really?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Some. Maybe it's. You know, the thing about these things is like maybe the video I watched was seven months old. Right, Right. And now there's a one that's.

[Brian Redban]

Was it Linus tech tips?

[Jamie Vernon]

No, someone else, some guy and he was like, you can sit it on a cabinet, but it weighs 240 pounds. So like you have to have like a super sturdy cabinet. But most people should just hang them on the wall. But you do not try to hang it on the wall by yourself. It's like. It's just way too heavy.

[Assistant/Researcher]

16 inches.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is it?

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's 10 days old. It's 116 inch.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, so that's the biggest.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I just typed in biggest tv. Largest TV in the world. Maybe it's a mid LED light.

[Jamie Vernon]

I think there's something a little bigger than that.

[Brian Redban]

Maybe it is 116 inches.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Unboxing the biggest TV yet.

[Brian Redban]

Unbox therapy.

[Assistant/Researcher]

The thing I like that's cool. That nobody can get is like with Justin Bieber and Kanye have in their warehouses, which is like a giant jumbotron screen and they're watching TV and watching movies.

[Jamie Vernon]

A giant Jumbotron?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah. I don't like.

[Jamie Vernon]

So they made a movie theater.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's like they're practicing for their arena shows and they're just.

[Jamie Vernon]

What?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Oh yeah, hear me.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Let me show you.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, so a Jumbotron like you would have at Madison Square Garden and they have one in their house.

[Brian Redban]

Justin Bieber.

[Assistant/Researcher]

He started doing.

[Brian Redban]

You've been following Bieber.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wait a minute. Justin Bieber's doing a Twitch?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Started doing Twitch Twitch recently, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

What?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah, he's just live streaming his like he's making videos and practice and he's got a basketball hoop and golf.

[Jamie Vernon]

How many people are watching while he's doing this?

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't know. He also doesn't really communicate with the fans or anything. They just kind of have it on. That thing back here is a giant screen. I don't wish you could see it on.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's so weird. And like how many people are watching this while it's streaming?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Well, this video has 250000 views from 13 days ago.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

But this is a YouTube video. This is a. An actual stream.

[Assistant/Researcher]

This is a re reposting of it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. Is it on his channel? No. Yeah, he bug Is his channel.

[Assistant/Researcher]

No, this isn't his channel. I don't watch. Won't show the video.

[Jamie Vernon]

So the 242,000 are on someone else's channel. So they've taken his stream and reposted it.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah, I guess he's just making his video or making songs, but it's not showing the screen.

[Brian Redban]

I wanted to show you. H. How do you know about this? Are you a Belieber? I mean, he's got good songs.

[Jamie Vernon]

He's got good songs.

[Assistant/Researcher]

He's a golfer.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, he's a golfer.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, he's a golfer. It's that cult, the cult of the ball. Cult of the little white ball.

[Assistant/Researcher]

LeBron got the bug. Kevin Hart got the bug.

[Jamie Vernon]

I saw Kevin Hart got the bug. Everyone's got that goddamn golfing bug.

[Brian Redban]

Kevin Hart.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, I bet Redbam never gets that bug.

[Brian Redban]

No, I. That.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's never going to happen. They'll never get you with that.

[Brian Redban]

I don't want that.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, they'll never get you.

[Brian Redban]

That sounds horrible.

[Jamie Vernon]

They never get you with some outdoor activity.

[Brian Redban]

Off.

[Jamie Vernon]

Off.

[Brian Redban]

It wouldn't be that outdoor.

[Jamie Vernon]

Or archery. You want to do archery?

[Brian Redban]

I used to do archery in middle school.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, when we open up. What's that?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Kanye watching basketball game on a screen.

[Brian Redban]

How.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is the. Can I get a perspective down there?

[Brian Redban]

What?

[Jamie Vernon]

No way. No way. For real? That's how he watches TV.

[Brian Redban]

I don't.

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean, it's a 100 foot screen.

[Brian Redban]

That'd be cool.

[Assistant/Researcher]

That's a thing like.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's badass. Is that like before? That's all before the anti juice stuff on the kids killed his bank account.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that like the panel things like where they have put those panels in?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, bro, go back to that. That's insane.

[Brian Redban]

Joe, get that for the studio so we can go watch.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's basketball, you know, we're doing another studio.

[Brian Redban]

America. That is so awesome. Dude, that. That amusement park there looks so cool, dude.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's sick. They. They have great restaurants are opening up there. They have a fitness center there. It's tough. Dope. It's pretty dope. And the. The track is incredible.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, but is it going to be like, like traffic nightmare around there? Because that area is already kind of a traffic nightmare around there. You know, helicopter in.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's not the best place to drive to sometimes. Like, I went to see Garth Brooks there recently. It was nuts. So many people there. I saw Eminem there. That was nuts.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Oh, you saw Eminem there?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Damn. I didn't even know he was there.

[Jamie Vernon]

It was great. It was great. He looks good.

[Brian Redban]

Good.

[Jamie Vernon]

And put on a very energetic show. You know, he's. He still can flow fast, you know. It was really good. It was a great show. And who else we see there? Oh, Post Malone was there. I saw Post Malone there a couple times. I saw him when he did the. I think a couple times I saw him when he did the. The other time I saw him was in Dallas, but he did the country music tour, so he was doing like, mostly like country. A lot of acoustic songs, a lot of acoustic guitars. Great.

[Brian Redban]

Posty. Here's a fun story about Posty. When I met him, he met my fiance, Janice, who's Asian, and he exchanged phone numbers with her. And then I find out later how he's got like the biggest Asian fetish. Oh, no. And I'm like. And so Janice and him text. Have text proof. I'm like, oh, no. She calls him Posty as a joke just to piss me off. Like, oh, Post Steve, what's going on?

[Jamie Vernon]

Can he just be a friend?

[Brian Redban]

He loves Asian girls more than me. That's hilarious.

[Jamie Vernon]

It is a thing. Dudes who love Asian girls, it becomes a thing.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know why, but it seems to stick.

[Brian Redban]

It's probably like Chung Lee from Street Fighter as a kid. You know, seeing her in a little dress.

[Jamie Vernon]

That can't be the only reason. That's ridiculous.

[Brian Redban]

I don't know.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's interesting though.

[Brian Redban]

Right? Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

It becomes a type. Yeah, yeah, that. Oh, I saw the Stones there. That was nuts. That was nuts.

[Brian Redban]

Outdoor concert there. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean, they have a huge stage and the Stones was like over 100,000 people were there for it.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

Cuz it was also during Circuit of the Americas. It was bananas, man. Like, you can't even believe you're seeing it. So it was. It's so nuts. It's one of those things where you're like, like, is that really Mick Jagger out there? Like, this is. You know what I mean? Like some people, a chain. A level of like, legendary status that you can barely believe they're real when you see them in person. That was what it was like. They were great, man. Like, put on a great show at a thousand years old.

[Brian Redban]

Have you raced a car there? Is that possible?

[Jamie Vernon]

I've driven around. I haven't raced anybody, but I've gone fast. I want to go fast, right? Yeah. I took the. Well, I've driven a few cars around there. I drove my car, which is a GT3RS, a 2007 GT3RS. I took that around the track. I took a Ford gt. It's another car I have. I took that around the track and then recently I drove. They have a new Corvette, the Corvette ZR1.

[Brian Redban]

Oh yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's a thousand horsepower.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

A thousand horsepower Corvette. It was bananas. By far the best car I've ever driven.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

By, by far.

[Brian Redban]

You're gonna get one.

[Jamie Vernon]

100.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

1,000. 100,000%.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. It looks sexy too. I love it. I.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, dude, it's, it's incredible. It's incredible. I mean it's just like, it's so engineered, man. Like when you're driving around the track, we were going fast and the thing was just gripping grip. The, the handling is so balanced because it's a mid engine car now. You know the, from the C8, the eighth version, like from Tony's on is all like super balanced out now because the engine is in the middle of the car. It's just like so planted.

[Brian Redban]

Is it better than a, I mean Porsches have mid, mid engine cars too. Is it better than Porsche?

[Jamie Vernon]

Porsche's mid engine cars are the Caymans, right, And the Boxster. Those are the mid engine cars.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

The other ones are rear engine cars, which is a little more tricky. Rear engine cars. It's like when the ass end kicks out, you got to keep on the gas or the car will spin out on you. It's a little different. You know, like a lot of people don't, they like it because you can control that. And once you get to control it, it can actually help you run the track. That's why one of the fastest cars in the world around the Nurburgring is the Porsche 911 GT3RS, which is a rear engine, rear wheel drive car car. And it's one of the fastest cars around the Nurburgring because when you know how to drive it, that weight balance can actually assist you. And they're just so well engineered. But the Corvette's faster. It is, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

The Corvette, I think it's zero to 60.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, it's zero to 60 is way faster. It's, it's a, it's a faster car. It's, it's, it's a spaceship. Like it's a nutty car. It's the. I don't know if it's faster around the Nurburgring. Matter of fact, I don't think it is the, I think it's like a hair behind it, which is interesting because it's a lot more horsepower. But that, that's Also, a professional race car driver drove the Porsche. And Corvette set its record for the fastest American car ever built around the Nurburgring with a Corvette engineer, not even a professional race car driver. And so professional race car drivers, like, there's some guys on YouTube. YouTube, they've looked at the footage because you can watch the dash cam footage. They said I could take about 10 seconds off this.

[Brian Redban]

Wow. Which is more than a Model S plaid, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

The new ones, they're really fast, too, but they're not as fast around corners. You know what I mean? Like the Nurburgring and a lot of these tracks, it's not just about how fast you go. It's about what kind of suspension you have. And the Model S plaid, in some ways is limited by the width of the tire in the suspension. It's a great car for driving regular streets, but if you were gonna do a car like that and take it on the track, you would do what I did with mine. The unplugged performance ones.

[Brian Redban]

Badass.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's different. That could probably go around a track faster than anything, right? Because it has super wide tires. It's a wider body because they had carbon fiber fenders. Wider tires, and then, like, insane brakes. Braking power. Like, that car's. That's a future car. That's. That. That car's from the future.

[Brian Redban]

It's sexy as.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever driven.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

By everything else. I have all the fast. Supposedly fast cars. They're all cars, right? That robot just silent. Goes faster than all of them. Faster handles incredible. And it's really heavy. Those are really heavy cars.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I've never even seen the Mercedes. Fastest on the Nurburgring.

[Brian Redban]

Wow. That's sexy.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's basically a race car.

[Assistant/Researcher]

6:30. So a minute faster than the Tesla Plaid in 2023.

[Brian Redban]

What is that exhaust on the top? Is that.

[Jamie Vernon]

See, See, that's the thing about a Tesla Plaid. 730 used to be awesome. Like, when my GT3 RS came out, I think it was like 740. A professional race car driver took it around the Nurburgring, which is kind of nuts. But now I think the. The Corvette is under six, is under seven. I think it's like 6:50. What is the Corvette's time? So number one, is it. Yeah. Okay. 649. That's crazy. So that's a full minute. Almost faster than the GT3RS that I have. So look at that. So below that. So it is faster than the GT3RS, which is nuts because the GT3RS and the GT2RS have always been like the ones that everybody looks at.05. Yeah. Real close. Real close. But again, the Corvette is being driven by a guy who's an engineer. The Porsche is being driven by a race car driver. There is a difference. Those engineers are awesome drivers. But that's like, you know, you play basketball in college, you're really good. Now you have to play against LeBron. There's a bit. There's a difference.

[Brian Redban]

And it's also pre production, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. And then there's the GT2Rs, the Manthy. So what Manthy is. It's like a performance company. They take a regular GT2, which is a nutty car. It's a turbocharged GT3 RS essentially. And it's got more than 700 horsepower. It's an insane car. So that's a little faster. But the regular GT2 RS is not as fast around the. So that's an. Mr. That's another modified vehicle. It's another company that's a GT3 RS. But then GT2 RS is what I'm asking about. So there's the GTD. That's the Ford Mustang. That's the new crazy Mustang that they just came out with. So these are nutty numbers, man. Like off the charts insane numbers. And they're going to get faster and faster when Elam's here. He was trying to tell me, without telling me how insane his. That little sportster car, whatever it's called. The Roadster. Oh, the Bigfoot, whatever that thing's gonna be. Roadster.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jamie Vernon]

But he said they're gonna have a product demonstration sometime in the beginning of the year. He said January, February.

[Brian Redban]

They had that 13 years ago too. I mean I, they. I wish you would. Would bring that out. I. God, that's like the.

[Jamie Vernon]

How many people put a deposit down?

[Brian Redban]

A lot. And a lot of people have canceled their deposits.

[Jamie Vernon]

Including Sam Altman.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, yeah. MK did recently also. I, I mean, I don't understand what the problem is. Like, why not just release one? I mean, because you can't. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Because you're busy.

[Brian Redban]

Well, but he's releasing.

[Jamie Vernon]

He's got rockets to make. Yeah, it doesn't have the time.

[Brian Redban]

I like my Hummer. That's my favorite car.

[Assistant/Researcher]

What's that from time he's been here. They've already pushed it back to April 1st and now.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, article I just found for the demonstration three days ago. Oh. So, okay, so 2027, we're gonna get this before Tesla delays reveal of production rose.

[Brian Redban]

April Fool's Day. It's not. He's with everybody.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's funny. Come on. That's funny.

[Brian Redban]

It's definitely funny.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's actually funny.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Look at that. Let me see the image again. Gives him some deniability. Bro. If that thing does come out, though, that's going to be so much fun. That's zero to 60 and some stupid number because the Tesla plaid my car. Does it in 1.9.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

1.9.

[Brian Redban]

It's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know what that's gonna do it in, but it's. It's probably gonna be like 14 or something insane. Which is 1 second.

[Brian Redban]

Basically a second my Hummer does in 2.8.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's scary as.

[Brian Redban]

Dude. And the whole front goes up like a boat. Boat. You're just looking at the sky. Really? Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Are they having a hard time selling those?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. 100.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why?

[Brian Redban]

They're cool. They're really cool. I think it's just the. I don't know, man. It's just. It's expensive. It's a very expensive car. And, you know, you're always ranting about it, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

You love it.

[Brian Redban]

It's my favorite car and I. It's just ridiculous that it's so much fun to drive. It's the funnest car I've ever drove. And little things like that where you go fast and the whole thing goes up like a boat.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's.

[Brian Redban]

That's so hilarious. They just released Super Crab Walk also just like an update where it's even more ridiculous. Like where you could just drive sideways kind of.

[Jamie Vernon]

Super Crab Walk.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. It's fun. Dude. You should. You should borrow my car. So. Time to go out. Like, it's fucking. It's fucking awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Have you been in a cybertruck yet?

[Brian Redban]

I have, but I haven't driven one. And, you know, that's something I canceled my reservation for. That's why I got the Hummer. But I'm still. I got that tick. Like, I kind of want it still.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Deal.

[Brian Redban]

But I don't know if you did it.

[Jamie Vernon]

You should put cat stickers all over it.

[Brian Redban]

Cat stickers. You know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, put your death squad.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Like wrap it and stuff. I would.

[Jamie Vernon]

People would definitely with it.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I can't do that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Dudes would piss all over your car or something.

[Brian Redban]

Right? Like, I wanted. Wanted to get red band as my license plate and it was like, available. I was like, I can't do that. Yeah, but that'd be cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. You're just asking to get stalked Like.

[Brian Redban]

I roast, you know, be like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

That was back when Tony wanted attention.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Now he's hiding. Hey, I'm hiding.

[Brian Redban]

Hiding.

[Jamie Vernon]

Now he's got tinted windows. When you like, maybe you can put red ban in like a code.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that would be.

[Jamie Vernon]

Actually be more fun.

[Brian Redban]

I almost said what my license plate is. I mean, I kind of did. Did you? Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's a douche move, right? Having a. Like, I've never. I'd had one. December.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

12, 20. 20, 2012. That was the end of the Mayan calendar. Yeah, that's right.

[Brian Redban]

You did have.

[Jamie Vernon]

What if that really did. If, like, we're gonna look back and that's when something happened and we just didn't realize something had happened.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like there's some technological breakthrough. They're going to point back to December 21, 2012. Yeah, they're gonna say, oh, that's when everything went weird.

[Brian Redban]

100 probably, right? Yeah. That and Covid. We got two updates during those two times.

[Jamie Vernon]

Covid was the big one. Yeah. I had someone trying to tell me it was the most painful conversation. That every time your nose got swabbed during COVID they put micro particles in your body and they can turn them on or off and make you tired or make you like, what? Why am I having this conversation? Did you research this? Have you researched this? Like, what are you talking about? About? I was like, this is the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life. Like, everybody's got it and 90% of the people on the planet have these things in their body and they can just turn them on and turn them off. Okay, what? Where is this technology coming from? Where do they have how. You know, how many steps have to be taken before they inject stuff into people? They have to be sure that it works.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Did you see Kim Kardashian doesn't believe we went to the moon. Have you been watching?

[Jamie Vernon]

Watching the show? We're dropping knowledge on Kim. Oh, Kim's catching it.

[Brian Redban]

It's funny watching her be into that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Just catching it. Old Kim's getting red pilled. Yeah, that's great, bro. When you watch Richard Nixon having a conversation with the guys, congratulations, boys, you're on the moon. He's got a phone. He's got a landline. He's calling the guys on the moon. Like, shut the up. Just shut your hole. There is no way that phone is connected to anybody other than another phone.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I didn't even know about the phone thing. That's ridiculous.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, that's one of the things that Gus Grisham complained about, he hung a lemon. I put a lemon on a coat hanger and hung it on the lunar module because they couldn't communicate with the people that were in the command center. They were all trying to communicate. And he was pissed off it wasn't working. So he put a lemon and he hung it on. On the door. And that's. That's the. The dark, dark conspiracy because he burned to death inside that thing.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. And his family thinks that they murdered him because he wasn't willing to go along with the moon hoax. He was supposed to be the original pilot.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Did you follow that conspiracy there? All the Challenger astronauts are still alive. Or you can follow.

[Jamie Vernon]

I've seen that.

[Brian Redban]

I love that one.

[Jamie Vernon]

You want to know what's not a conspiracy? That Elon told us if they made the Challenger out of steel instead of aluminum, it wouldn't have burnt up like that.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. So he said. He said it was about the tiles.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Isn't that nuts?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, because that's how it happened.

[Jamie Vernon]

The tiles break off. Yeah. But aluminum just heats up too fast and disintegrates. Falls apart. Yeah. That's why he uses steel. Like those things are all the spaceships that he's making.

[Brian Redban]

Does he cast them like he does his cars? I wonder. Like, you know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

I can't say how they do it. I don't think. I don't think we could say. Right?

[Brian Redban]

Don't tell me. I don't care.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't think we should say. But it's steel. I'll tell you. It's steel.

[Brian Redban]

Steel.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's crazy looking, man. When you see them in person, you're like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, That's a trip.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's like. It's literally like you're inside of the Death Star and you're looking at some spaceship that they're constructing or you're, you know, with the Resistance or whoever Luke Skywalker was with. It's weird, man. It's weird because these are spaceships. They're gonna go into space and eventually supposedly go to Mars.

[Brian Redban]

I'm good. You're not gonna go. No, that.

[Jamie Vernon]

But if you had a choice between. Earth is going to be hit by the biggest asteroid that's ever impacted Earth in five years. It's. There's no way we're going to avoid it.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

And we figured out a way to grow food on Mars. Who's in? I might go to Mars.

[Brian Redban]

Then I'll go. But I want to be like, passed out, like my colonoscopy where I just wake up, I'm like, oh, I'm here.

[Jamie Vernon]

Could you imagine watching from Mars when Earth gets hit with an asteroid, you watch it in real time.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

You see this big flash in the sky, and like a quarter of Earth looks like it's on fire.

[Brian Redban]

God, bro, that be intense, bro.

[Jamie Vernon]

Imagine being on the surface of Mars watching Earth get destroyed, going, oh, boy, we got to make the most of this.

[Assistant/Researcher]

If I could barely see it, wouldn't you?

[Jamie Vernon]

You have telescopes and you can barely see. Well, with your eyes. You mean, with your eyes you could barely see.

[Brian Redban]

And wouldn't it be like, years later you would see it?

[Jamie Vernon]

No, it'll be a few seconds later. Right, but if, yeah, if you were using a telescope, you definitely be able to see it. But with the naked eye, it'd be a little tiny dot because it's only. Mars is only like, what, three quarters of the size of Earth? How big is Mars in relationship to the size of Earth? So you could barely. And you could barely see Mars. Right. So Earth would only be like, a slight bit bigger.

[Brian Redban]

And then going back to Earth after to see it would be crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Just watch Cannibals, just all people looking up at you over rib cage and wearing human skin. That's probably what people are like. After the asteroids impacted, you know, the people that have survived, like, these big, huge extinction events. Okay. Oh, it's a lot smaller than Earth. It's half the size, basically. Almost a little bit more than half the size.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

So we could barely see that. So you could probably barely, barely see Earth too. You know, Terence Howard has the craziest idea about planets. He. And again, I don't know if he's right, but it's fun. He thinks that planets are made out of chunks of stuff that gets ejected from the sun and eventually gravity cola. And as it moves further and further away from the sun, it gets to the point where could support life. And he said, you probably experienced that all over the cosmos. It's probably like peopling. Like, things get to a stage where it could support life, and then life exists for long enough where intelligent life develops. And that happens all over the cosmos. That's his thought. And then maybe these people that we see when you meet aliens, maybe that's future versions of people. And that peopling is a natural thing. Thing just like, you know, grow crops, you know, oh, the crops are fruiting, we're growing, we're going to get apples, we're going to Go pick apples today because the. The tree lived long enough, the seeds planted long enough, now grows fruit. Now you can go, go eat your apples. Imagine we're just a farm, just a people farm. That makes sense. Everyone say, no, that doesn't make any sense. Listen, nothing about this world makes sense. Fucking literally nothing. Nothing about life makes sense. It's. It's all very strange. And you don't think it's possible that this is a stage on the way to becoming some new kind of life form, and that has happened already somewhere else, and they come to visit to make sure we're okay? Of course that's possible.

[Brian Redban]

I'm leaning more towards simulation theory. More and more the older I get. Yeah, yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Is it real for real?

[Brian Redban]

100 or hundreds percent.

[Jamie Vernon]

All right, what's your argument for why the simulation theory is real?

[Brian Redban]

Because you can kind of see right now the idea, like look at AI chatbots or look at. Look AI talking to AI. You could already kind of see artificial intelligence now. Like baby version of it, right? Imagine 100 years from now. Imagine thousands of years ago, and we are the AI. You know, I just. I just see that. That just seems like it makes sense that we're aliens created us as AI, you know, in this fake world. And they're just.

[Jamie Vernon]

So this is just a program running?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Jamie Vernon]

Look, it's.

[Brian Redban]

It's a fun one.

[Jamie Vernon]

Let's talk about that stupid quantum computer. Okay? What is that?

[Brian Redban]

Right? Right?

[Jamie Vernon]

So if that thing can do that, if it could run a calculation that would take every computer on Earth 2.6 billion years to solve and it could do it in a few minutes. What is, what kind of rendering can that thing do? You know, like, what kind of experience can that thing provide to my. My simple monkey neurons? What. You know, I wear a headset and it create. Like you were telling me about those weird online games where they're never ending or like, you explore space and there's like universes and. But there's no end to the game, right? You just go places and see things and you can go to a new place and see a new thing, right? And it's like constantly rendering a new version of it. Like, well, what's that? Yeah, right. What is that? And now you add a bunch of variables like life forms, this. And natural disasters and ideological capture and all this different shit and trannies in the women's room, all that stuff. Like, add that to it and all the chaos of war and a, you know, Samsung can't get their. Together. Like all that, put it all together, like, to keep you confused and chaotic and, like, you're guessing constantly. Everything's madness. Like, this is. That's how I would make a simulation. I'd make a simulation that's completely bananas. Some old guy gets shot in the air, jumps up and goes, fight, fight, fight.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Crazy stuff, right?

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

The. The nuttier, the better. The weirder the better. I want a communist running New York City. Run it. Run that. Run that program. Let's go.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And all these rich kids are going to be supporting him. Yay, socialism. Run that program. All of it. Yeah, run it.

[Brian Redban]

And we get upgraded when we sleep at night. Maybe.

[Jamie Vernon]

It'S just one of those things. It's like we realize that we're building towards an event. Like human civilization clearly seems to be building towards an event. There's like the military stuff, the Ukraine, Russia stuff, the Gaza, Palestine, Israel stuff. But it's also the technology war. It's like building towards an event. And how that event plays out, I don't know. And I think everyone's got a little bit of anxiety about that, you know, but at least they have. At least they're letting that climate change. We're gonna die Go. Bill Gates was like the first. He sounded the first alarm, actually. We're gonna be fine. Did you see he said that recently?

[Brian Redban]

Bill Gates said that?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yes, yes, Bill Gates, the Pied Piper of We're all gonna Die. The guy, literally the Paul Revere of We're gonna Die is now. We're gonna be okay. Okay? We're going to be fine. So they're letting that go. So if they're letting that go. Okay, good. At least you can relax in that front. So what do we have to be anxious about now? What, what, what. What dilemmas is the simulation providing us that are going to keep us distracted as we build towards an event? I think the real event involves AI. I think that's the real event. I think all this other stuff, the climate change stuff and the.

[Brian Redban]

And it would make. Isn't it kind of weird, too, that AI literally came to us overnight? It wasn't like we saw baby versions of AI. It just seemed like, oh, one day we have. All have AI. Like we have artificial. You know, all this. It came out of nowhere.

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean, when was ChatGPT or excuse me, when was OpenAI funded? When was. When was it founded? What was the.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Jamie Vernon]

Let's guess.

[Brian Redban]

2017.

[Jamie Vernon]

I was gonna say the same thing.

[Brian Redban]

Are you serious?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, I was gonna say 16. I was like, nah.

[Brian Redban]

17. Yep. 7.

[Jamie Vernon]

But it might be 15, right? Was it 15? Yeah. So 10 years ago, these knew that eventually we're going to figure that thing out. And. And then also they were probably the first people that were collecting data.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

And realizing that data is a commodity. Well, it's also a commodity in that this data allows people to use their artificial intelligence and create things, which is essentially on the back of artists. Right. Like digital artists. And like these. A lot of these people that make stuff with their hands that like have a distinctive art style. Like, you can tell it make me a painting of a dog and a young boy in the style of Picasso during a very particular time period of his life and at all like that. But it's doing it off of Picasso's work.

[Brian Redban]

Right?

[Jamie Vernon]

Right.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. So it's trained on.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Like if you say, make me a Frank Frazetta of Conan the Barbarian that's never been seen. Do you do that? Yeah, let's. Let's put that into perplexity.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And have.

[Jamie Vernon]

Doesn't do images. All right, that's an issue.

[Brian Redban]

Make Greta Thorne word. Have big boobs in.

[Jamie Vernon]

All right. When you use AI, like what. What pro you. Are you using programs that do deep fakes? Are using programs that do video generate? Using Sora.

[Brian Redban]

I use Sora all the time.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is that the best one for videos? Right.

[Brian Redban]

They all. It kind of sucks sometimes. Soras are the best. Other times, Grok's great. I mean, every. Every day I'm going. Trying to go back and forth between them too. But I would say Soar is probably the best one right now, but then next week some other one will come out, you know, and be better. So I'm always jumping around.

[Jamie Vernon]

Brett Weinstein was explaining something really interesting about like Nvidia and a lot of these companies that make video cards, that their design of these video cards is uniquely good for AI generation and that they're. That's why they're so huge now. Like, these companies are bigger than any other company.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I asked it to do it. There you go.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay. Wow.

[Brian Redban]

That looks good.

[Jamie Vernon]

I don't know if that is that Holy.

[Brian Redban]

No, that's from like, that's incredible. Cobra Commander's thing or something like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's incredible. That looks. Okay.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Stand corrected.

[Jamie Vernon]

So tell it. Tell Perplexity to make him look older and more scarred and vulnerable. Well, no, he was always mean. More scarred. Okay. I think they're doing it based on Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Brian Redban]

Oh.

[Jamie Vernon]

Because that. The. The hair was lighter and Conan's hair was like jet black in the books. Oh, look at. Look how it generates.

[Brian Redban]

I like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

This is perplexing.

[Brian Redban]

Cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Make him look older and more scar.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, that's so cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, get a little.

[Brian Redban]

That's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, my God. They nailed it.

[Brian Redban]

That is perfect.

[Jamie Vernon]

Holy shit. Dude, that's incredible.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Even fake sign.

[Jamie Vernon]

What's that fake signature?

[Brian Redban]

Oh, wow, that's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is the signature?

[Assistant/Researcher]

You can't. It's ineligible. I don't think it's anything.

[Jamie Vernon]

Whoa.

[Brian Redban]

He's wearing boots.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's the kind of boots they wore back then. Damn, that's pretty fucking.

[Brian Redban]

The dragon has three.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay, now make him in a scene where he's fighting armed skeletons. So we're gonna have the old dude with the scars fighting skeletons. We're 12 now.

[Brian Redban]

Now animated, you know, that's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Now give me a big old hog. Big old floppy.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, what happened is he's getting older. That's Arnold Schwarzer.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Arnold?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's weird. That's not Conan. Okay, give him good, but give him long black hair and pouty lips.

[Brian Redban]

Put pouty lips.

[Jamie Vernon]

Just to see what happens. Give him hair to jet black and longer. All right, here we go.

[Brian Redban]

Put them in pigtails.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's wild how this thing can just do this.

[Brian Redban]

I love this. This is all. I mean, I just do this for hours.

[Jamie Vernon]

All it takes is a prompt, and you can do it with your voice. You don't even have to do it by typing it in, which is really nuts.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Have you.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's better. Still a little longer with the hair. The hair needs to be a little longer, but that's okay.

[Brian Redban]

And that looks like he dyed it black. Like, just ferment it, right? Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

But they took away the weapons from the skeletons. They don't look skeletons having that battle axe look. They edited that out.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Jamie Vernon]

Make the. Make the skeletons heavily armed with armor and helmets, swords and shields. With armor and helmets. Swords and shields. Why did I say swords?

[Brian Redban]

Swords.

[Jamie Vernon]

I said it like it's spelled.

[Brian Redban]

That's your Boston in you.

[Jamie Vernon]

He's got a sword. Run poorly. He's gonna get you. He's got his sword.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, I like how it does that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, kind of pretty dope. That's pretty dope. Although where's the blood on the sword coming from if they're all skeletons? True issue. That's an issue. That's pretty good, though, dude. It's a little different than Frazetta's style. Okay, now say, make it more like Frazetta's paintings because it's A little too detailed, right? Make it more like Frazetta's.

[Brian Redban]

Skeletons are bullshit, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

Paintings.

[Brian Redban]

They would just. All their bones would fall on the ground. There's no muscles.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's nothing to stop the blade. But they're all coming at you. There's so many of them. They're coming at you from everywhere. You know, you have to. Scary.

[Brian Redban]

Ridiculous.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's a zombie inside the skeleton. A zombie brain. Yeah. They have no muscle, you know. Kick their ass.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. They just off be a pile. I don't like his puss. And what's that bomb on the ground? Like a World War II bomb?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. What is that?

[Brian Redban]

What's that like a vibrator? That's a Hitachi.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is that? Big robot dick on the ground? Big old red rocket. I kind of like how they've got looks. The skeletons have shields now.

[Brian Redban]

Now that's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

That looks pretty dope.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. No one's still to this day. I would love to talk Quentin Tarantino into doing it for his last film. No one to this day has done a really good Conan movie like the books.

[Brian Redban]

That's true.

[Jamie Vernon]

Have you ever read the books?

[Brian Redban]

Long time ago. I used to be really in that. In the Death Dealer. Or was the Death Dealer. Is that what his name was? Yeah, I think, man. The guy with the big horns. The Black Death Dealer, right? Is that what it's called? I used to be in that, too.

[Jamie Vernon]

Who's got the horns?

[Brian Redban]

I think it's called the Death Dealer. It is called the Death Dealer. Yeah, that guy. Oh, yeah. That's fourth picture right there where he's on the. Next to it, to the right.

[Jamie Vernon]

So it's basically a ripoff.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. That was really into those books.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Frank Frazetta. Unless someone made that up.

[Brian Redban]

No, it is. It's Frank Frazetta also.

[Jamie Vernon]

Go to that.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's him.

[Jamie Vernon]

Dude, that was my Frazetta's best paintings.

[Brian Redban]

Really? Yeah. That's the Death Dealer. I used to read those books.

[Jamie Vernon]

I didn't know there were books.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I was obsessed with that. The Death Dealer.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is the book about?

[Brian Redban]

I don't remember anymore, man. It was. It was badass, though. I used to.

[Jamie Vernon]

The Death Dealer, actually. Frank Fazetta's Volume three, the Death. Death Dealer.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that was my favorite one. That was my favorite book right there.

[Jamie Vernon]

So what, does he just go around killing people?

[Brian Redban]

He was a badass. It was pretty. I think he was dead too, if I remember. I don't remember like he was.

[Jamie Vernon]

See if you could go and find out what it Looks like inside of it.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Inside of what?

[Jamie Vernon]

Inside of that book. Like, is it a. It's a graphic novel, right?

[Brian Redban]

No, no, it's a book.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's a book.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And then I've read. I got. I've read that before. I read Conan and that's how I got into Conan, because I was like, wait, who's Conan? Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

So who wrote that?

[Brian Redban]

I don't.

[Assistant/Researcher]

One of them.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's not Robert E. Howard. Right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

James Silk.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, okay. So he based it on a Frazetta painting and made. Okay, okay.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

So Frazetta, though, was. The Conan books were in the 30s.

[Brian Redban]

Were they?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, I didn't know it was that old.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's really old.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Robert E. Howard, he lived with his mom. He was super depressed and wound up killing himself. And he wrote about like the most badass that he wished he was living in a time where there's sorcerers and dragons and you.

[Brian Redban]

Have you been a Conan's Pizza here in Austin?

[Jamie Vernon]

Is it related?

[Brian Redban]

It's all Conan. Conan. You walk in, it's all Conan. Really? You would love it.

[Jamie Vernon]

How's the pizza?

[Brian Redban]

I haven't had it. I haven't been there yet, but it looks badass. I saw it on Tick Tock and it's just like a Conan's fans dream.

[Jamie Vernon]

Super nerd.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's just everywhere.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, it's all Frazetta stuff.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, everywhere.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, wow. What a great idea. Yeah, it's a good way to keep chicks out.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, look at that. Look at the table.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's all. We're not going to the. Yeah. Hard seats and Conan paintings. That's how you keep chicks out. We are not going to see those gay paintings.

[Brian Redban]

I want to go there, though.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why do you like those? Those gay paintings?

[Brian Redban]

They're the most coolest paintings in the.

[Jamie Vernon]

They are.

[Brian Redban]

They are.

[Jamie Vernon]

But I don't think that. I don't think women have the same opinion. Yeah, you had a guess.

[Brian Redban]

I don't know. I mean, I was into Red Sonja too, but girls hate Red Sonja because she's too hot.

[Jamie Vernon]

Big old titties. She. Everybody up. Yeah, she's too hot.

[Brian Redban]

Red Sonia versus Conan.

[Jamie Vernon]

Isn't it weird that like, that genre caught fire? Like the genre of like, fantasy, like medieval fantasy. Like. Like chain mail. Like iron, big swords, helmets, and then monsters, witches and warlocks. And like, what is that? Like, why did that. Why the Barbarian era? Why was that so interesting to people? Muscles.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like, for Robert E. Howard, because he's living the. This soft life. Living in his mom's house. Yeah, can't get any. I'm such a loser, you know, writing these books about a guy who's the ultimate, just a destroyer, covered in scars. Kills everybody, kills all the monsters. Never loses. Yeah. Comes close to losing a couple times. Never loses.

[Brian Redban]

Would you want Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Conan again if he. No. What about his son?

[Jamie Vernon]

I think his son's the best Conan of all time.

[Brian Redban]

Time.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like how many. First of all, how many Conan's have there been?

[Brian Redban]

Three. Two. Three movies? Yeah, I think two or three. 82.

[Jamie Vernon]

2011.

[Assistant/Researcher]

2025.

[Brian Redban]

That's not it.

[Jamie Vernon]

2000. Which one was 2011? Who started Conan in the 2011 one?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Way to see it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Hold on a second.

[Assistant/Researcher]

IMDb showed this way. Yeah, I guess 2000. Jason Momoa.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay. That was 2011.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Why did I think that was earlier than that? Okay, this one, in my opinion, Momoa was the best Conan.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

So there's that. How many of them are there other than that?

[Assistant/Researcher]

There's the Red Sonia and that's just.

[Jamie Vernon]

There's the Arnold ones, but there was nobody else did it other than Arnold. Did they ever do one? Those are animated, but did anybody ever do one other than Arnold and Jason Momoa?

[Brian Redban]

I don't think so.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay. There was a TV show.

[Assistant/Researcher]

What, 97.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's got to be animated though, isn't. Has to be.

[Brian Redban]

No, it's not. Wow, that looks what?

[Assistant/Researcher]

This is around the time of like Xena, Warrior Princess.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, I remember this.

[Brian Redban]

I remember that too.

[Jamie Vernon]

I remember this.

[Assistant/Researcher]

This.

[Jamie Vernon]

It wasn't bad. He was more realistic as Conan than Arnold was because Arnold just looked like a straight up bodybuilder. But Jason Momoa. See if you can find an image of Jason Momoa as Conan. He looked terrifying. He looked like the. The most legitimate version of Conan.

[Brian Redban]

He's a cool dude, man. I like Jason.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is there any images of him in there? There he is. That's probably what Conan would have looked like. Like big dude, but not a bodybuilder. Covered in scars. I mean, tough to stay alive back then.

[Brian Redban]

Was that movie good? I don't remember seeing. This was the one that was 3D, right.

[Jamie Vernon]

Terrible movie. It's terrible, but it could have been good. It started off good. It started off. I was like, oh, this is the best version of Conan ever. It was it. Someone needs to make it like the books, you know?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's hard to do to read. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

No, ain't nobody reading no more.

[Brian Redban]

Ain't nobody reading.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well, I wonder how much tick tock has killed the book industry. Is it different people?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's different. That's different people. That's.

[Jamie Vernon]

But I mean, how much has like social media in general dropped the amount of people that read books?

[Brian Redban]

Well, I mean, I do so much reading from websites and, and Twitter and like that nowadays that if I was into books, I could see myself not reading as much because I'm reading all day already, you know.

[Jamie Vernon]

Do you find yourself using that phone because it's got a bigger screen, more to watch stuff and read stuff?

[Brian Redban]

I use my. Lately I've been using my Apple Vision Pro the most just to watch movies.

[Jamie Vernon]

Tick tock dork.

[Brian Redban]

Dude, you're a real dork.

[Jamie Vernon]

You're tick tocking on an Apple Vision Pro.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Hell yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You're in there with them.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I don't do that. I watch a movie on it.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's the best way to see a movie.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It's what's. But it's awesome.

[Jamie Vernon]

Is it the best way to see.

[Assistant/Researcher]

A movie and watch it on your tv?

[Brian Redban]

Yep.

[Jamie Vernon]

Really?

[Brian Redban]

Better than going to a movie theater?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Clearer than watching on your TV. Really?

[Brian Redban]

And if you're into 3D, best 3D you can ever get. Better than any movie theater.

[Jamie Vernon]

And do you have to stay plugged in while you have it on or can the battery last all throughout a whole movie?

[Brian Redban]

The new one lasts three hours, so, you know, most movies, but I just have like my MacBook charger hooked up to it, so.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, so you can keep it plugged in.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I'm just laying, I'm just laying on the couch, you know, 500 inch screen on my ceiling, you know, and have like, maybe like an app on the side, like, you know, message app or something or. Hey. Yeah, I know.

[Jamie Vernon]

I guarantee you do.

[Brian Redban]

We don't.

[Jamie Vernon]

Do they have that?

[Brian Redban]

Huh? You, you can watch. Yeah, all that stuff.

[Jamie Vernon]

You can watch porn.

[Brian Redban]

Oh yeah, you can watch 3D porn.

[Jamie Vernon]

Boy, that's a problem. Porn as big as like a Jumbotron.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I don't want, I don't, I don't need to see that. I don't want that. And it's cool because like, if, if you like hit record on it, you just go up to your dog, like go up to Marshall and go. And then you can watch Marshall in 3D. You know, it's so cool. Like, and it's like the best way to look at photos. And the new one is just so nice. Dude, it's really. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

How come it hasn't really caught on?

[Brian Redban]

Because of the price. It's so expensive. I Just got the new Samsung one. Samsung just released their vision of the Apple Vision Pro and it's half the price.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is it called?

[Brian Redban]

Xr. Samsung Galaxy XR I think it's called. And it's, it's just like the Apple Vision Pro. It's a little bit not as good, you know, but if you don't have the Apple Vision Pro, that's a good for the price, that's a good alternative and it does the same.

[Jamie Vernon]

Watch movies, everything.

[Brian Redban]

But the only problem is that I had, I just got to see how good it was. And if you have the Apple Vision Pro going to that it's like going backwards. So it's kind of.

[Jamie Vernon]

How much backwards?

[Brian Redban]

I'd say like 30% backwards.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh really?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

In quality or quality as you.

[Brian Redban]

And it's. But it also just came out so that you know there's a lot of bugs and like things they can fix. But there's also like the pass through. I mean the pass through on the Apple Vision Pro is almost like perfect. You know, like you could drive, you can look at your text through it.

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean you drive with it on.

[Brian Redban]

You could. But I went.

[Jamie Vernon]

Do you drive it on?

[Brian Redban]

No, I don't do it. No I don't.

[Jamie Vernon]

Motherfucker. Driving with an Apple Vision Pro, you fucking psycho.

[Brian Redban]

No, I don't. But you could, you could.

[Jamie Vernon]

Well if you saw the Palmer Lucky stuff where he has these goggles that you put on with the headset and you know when you've seen the demonstration, right. So imagine something like that for the world where every car has a camera and everybody knows where the accident is and everybody knows what's happening.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

So even if you're on like self driving, if you're driving yourself right. You'd be alerted of things like way in advance of what's happening.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. It should be on your, on your windshield though. Like you know, like up like the display like I love that shit where you're driving, you have a little speed thing pop up.

[Jamie Vernon]

You can see into cars and see people getting roadhead.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Like an outline of someone's head bobbing up and down someone's lap.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

The next step in the invasion of your privacy.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, totally.

[Jamie Vernon]

So Vision Pro has been around what, two years? Two years now that's weird that Apple got ahead of everybody else.

[Brian Redban]

That's the first time, right? The first time. And.

[Jamie Vernon]

But they did have to have a giant brick of a battery to do they are they.

[Brian Redban]

The Samsung has it too. You still have to.

[Jamie Vernon]

I mean how big is the Samsung Like a laptop brick.

[Brian Redban]

It's. It's about the size of the phone right here. Like a phone. And it's not. And it's not a big problem because you usually just like have it on the couch and just have like a wire hooked up to it.

[Jamie Vernon]

How heavy is the one on Apple? Is it the size of a phone or is it bigger?

[Brian Redban]

It's about the size of the phone. It's a little smaller and it's not too heavy, but it's not like you.

[Jamie Vernon]

I thought it was like one of those things that comes with a laptop. Like those bricks that come. We charge.

[Brian Redban]

A charging brick. Yeah, I mean it's, it's. Yeah, it's. I would say it's about the size of a normal phone. If not, it's a little smaller than this, I guess, but. And each one, Each one lasts like three hours. And then you, you know, I have two. So I can just unplug it.

[Jamie Vernon]

But Kill Tony on it.

[Brian Redban]

I've watched Kill Tony on it. Yeah, like it's fun watching YouTube and tick tocks on it, you know, so.

[Jamie Vernon]

It'S like a giant screen screen.

[Brian Redban]

Sometimes I edit on it. Like. Like if I'm doing editing, Kill Tony. I'll just put that on and then have like a IMAX movie theater that I'm editing on. So it's great. Like if I'm on an airplane or something, I could sit there and have like five screens and like, you know. You know, it's cool. It's great for airplanes too, if you just want to sit there and watch movies and like that and.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. Instead of just staring at a laptop.

[Brian Redban]

Exactly.

[Jamie Vernon]

And then everyone going, what are you watching?

[Brian Redban]

Right. And you can watch, hands up.

[Jamie Vernon]

The original Blade Runner. That's the best one, dude.

[Brian Redban]

And you can sit there and watch porn. No one will even know.

[Jamie Vernon]

They'll know when your dick.

[Brian Redban]

Well, you put your little tray down over it.

[Jamie Vernon]

You got to be a special kind of creep to be jacking off on a plane with a bunch of people.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I don't get that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Some people just want to get caught. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there. That's part of the thrill. I'm a naughty boy. I got a blanket over my head cuz I can't sleep. And the blanket is here. Happens to be moving like this.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. We used to have a problem when I was manager of a movie theater. This guy that would come in and it was an old black guy and he looked like a professor or something like that, shirt tucked in. And you Always have a newspaper under his arm. And he would just sit in the movie theater, like, a couple rows behind somebody, put the newspaper on his lap, and just jerk off. And we caught him maybe six times. We. We banned him. And then when I. When I switched movie theater, like, I became a manager of another company, a different part of town, down. He was there too. Like, it was like, oh, you guys got this guy here, too. Like, he just went to movie theaters and masturbated and got caught all the time. Like, I had to tell him three multiple times, dude, you're banned here. Get out of here. You know, I should have called the police. Looking back at it, that's hilarious.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's his sport.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Some people play chess.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

That guy just jacks off in movie theaters and tries to get caught.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. And got caught.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm a naughty boy, right? I'm so naughty. I did it again. I can't believe I did it again.

[Brian Redban]

And if you saw him, yeah, he looked like a teacher. He looks so professional.

[Jamie Vernon]

Back jacking off in the movie theater. He's probably buttoned down all day long at his job. Has to be proper, but really, he's a naughty, naughty, naughty boy. Wants to go whack off in a theater. That's a weird thing with dudes. Want to be naughty, you know, give it a really. A really sick girl. To be fingering yourself at a movie theater, like, by yourself. You're a nut.

[Brian Redban]

I mean, it sounds like a good girl to me. I like it.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right. But that's not like, something that happens often. I bet. I bet if it's like the amount of people that get caught whacking off in public, it's got to be like 99 men.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

How many women are by themselves just playing with themselves? You're probably already in a hospital if that's to be doing that, you know, you're not like a functional member of society like that guy dressed like a professor. Fingering yourself.

[Brian Redban]

I like to think there's a lot a boy can dream.

[Jamie Vernon]

Can't a boy dream?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

If you wanted to guess the percentages, though.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, definitely. Guys more than girls.

[Jamie Vernon]

Way more.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I say probably 75, 25, 100. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

I bet there's no women who've ever been caught masturbating publicly.

[Brian Redban]

No, there were. There's that famous video that was on Tick Tock recently about a girl masturbating at a beach or something. Something that just came out.

[Jamie Vernon]

Did you get in trouble?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, she. It was like body cam.

[Jamie Vernon]

Real did like, you sure There was real cops. It might be just a video that they made. There's a bunch of those where you see, like, someone getting harassed by a cop, and they're like. Like, this seems like acting. And then you try to look for the case online. It doesn't exist. Like, this is because before AI, there was a lot of people that were just pretending to make viral videos. Like, pretend arguments, pretend fights, pretend cop encounters. Like, you know, chess cam, cop footage. That's.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. So maybe that's too. I don't know.

[Brian Redban]

Who knows?

[Jamie Vernon]

Maybe she's not really.

[Brian Redban]

I like to believe it's playing with.

[Jamie Vernon]

Herself on the beach.

[Brian Redban]

Sand in there.

[Jamie Vernon]

Almost. Little kids in their shovels. Come shovel. Mommy getting all swampy.

[Brian Redban]

And Mommy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, the ocean's leaking in. That's a dude activity. Yeah, like public masturbation. Like, there's a particularly broken woman who wants to play with herself at the beach in front of everybody. Like, you have to be, like, just out of jail. Like, out of your mind. Like, they already be. They must be looking for you already. Like, by the time you're fingering yourself in front of the ocean, like, if.

[Assistant/Researcher]

They go into a room, they can just charge money for it. Guys can't do that.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's true. That's true. You probably can, but only guys are going to pay for it. I'm gonna have all these ladies look at my. No, you're not. No, no, no, no. You're gonna have a bunch of guys.

[Brian Redban]

Gay guys. Yeah, Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

A bunch of gay guys. Yeah. It's not like, how many women have ever been arrested for public masturbation? Throw that number into perplexity. See what it has. And then make a Frank Frazetta painting. It's women fighting off the masturbation police. Because, like, dudes jerking off in public is a scary thing. Like, oh, this guy's a sex criminal. He's jerking off in public. A woman playing with herself in public is just kind of sad.

[Brian Redban]

Hottest. No, it's a hot. Can you imagine if that a problem? Got too many women.

[Jamie Vernon]

It would definitely be a problem if you were with your husband and you're walking along. What a beautiful day at the park. Mike, look. Oh, look over here. Mike. Don't look at it. Don't watch. She's over there. Come and play in mommy sandbox.

[Assistant/Researcher]

It doesn't give numbers. It just gives five examples of, oh.

[Jamie Vernon]

Ladies have been arrested. Okay, let's see these people. Information. We don't have to say the name. Someone 38 years old. Arrested in Florida, of course. Masturbating during a video jail visit. Oh, okay. That's normal. Arrested in Texas for masturbating in public while allegedly under the influence of drugs. Crazy. Arrested in Georgia for masturbating on a public beach using a vibrator. Whoa. That's a wild bitch. And then what's under there? Arrested in Minnesota for masturbating naked in a vehicle. Was she driving? She's just sitting in the car. Patrolman found her lying on the floor of an open gold Pontiac suv digitally penetrating herself. It's in quotes. It says digitally penetrating herself.

[Brian Redban]

Digitally?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Wow. There's a 47 year old woman with no fixed address facing charges of indecent exposure and disorderly conduct after public masturbation. Imagine that's how far you. Not only are you homeless, but you're homeless and whack it off.

[Brian Redban]

So this Austin woman, I just looked her up because I said she was in Texas. Look at her. She's got so many photos though. She's been arrested so many times for masturbating.

[Jamie Vernon]

Austin?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

So why does she do that?

[Brian Redban]

Drugs, it says. But.

[Jamie Vernon]

So it's a drug. Whoa.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, she's down. Yeah, she's that girl downtown, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

You know her? Yeah, yeah, Jamie's tight. Everybody knows her.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, she's always naked and stuff. That and there was a black version I've heard.

[Jamie Vernon]

Wait a minute. How many times has this lady been arrested?

[Assistant/Researcher]

We could go downtown and find her right now.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, we could. She's by the bridge, usually. Brown Creek McCabe.

[Jamie Vernon]

My kind of homeless person, you know, A fixture in the community. Yeah, like it becomes a part of the tapestry. Right. It makes things more interesting. Yeah, that's my kind of homeless people. I like them like that.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Six years ago.

[Jamie Vernon]

Hey. Wow. For six years she's been banging out in the streets.

[Assistant/Researcher]

That's kind of nervous, not wearing any pants at this time.

[Jamie Vernon]

How many people have loved ones that died of some horrible disease? And like, look at this lady. She's out there thriving. Yeah, she's thriving. You know, Frank just took the vaccine and dropped dead playing soccer.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And this lady is out there thriving.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I need to read all this in the Newsweek article.

[Jamie Vernon]

But this is in the Newsweek article. Okay. She was named in the affidavit as the general manager of the JW Marriott. Else was not that the witness was the witness. Document noted he heard Nichols in quotes, making moaning noises as if she was having an orgasm. How do you know what the kind of noises she.

[Brian Redban]

Look above it. Public view. In a public place with her legs straight up in the air, spread open.

[Jamie Vernon]

Straight up in the air. She doesn't even tuck. At one point, suspect was seen rubbing her himself back and forth on the plastic seat. Okay.

[Brian Redban]

That's hot.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's diseases, bro. That's how AIDS get started. That's the real aids. Venereal diseases by themselves. It's a weird, huh? What's the matter, Jamie?

[Assistant/Researcher]

That's what she used to look like.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's what she used to look like.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Holy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Times are hard. Wow. Yeah. When you are whacking off in public every day, I mean, that's like, you know, face of a female MMA fighter get scarred up.

[Assistant/Researcher]

The picture I just had up, that was an insanely different looking person.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, well, there's 12 different versions of her.

[Jamie Vernon]

She's been bare enough boxing with fentanyl for decades.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

What do you expect? You get scarred up. Wow. Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

She kind of looks like a girl I know in that first photo.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's hard out there.

[Brian Redban]

Not for a girl.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's hard for her. See, she's clearly. Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

There's an only fans. Really.

[Jamie Vernon]

She had an only fans.

[Assistant/Researcher]

She could have been on a different path.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, not really. She would have. Someone would have scammed her. She would have lost it all. Only fans is like, what is it like? If you look at the amount of money earned, only fans is bigger than like NBA team. Like, what is the. What is the. What's the amount of money generated by onlyfans every year? Let's just guess.

[Brian Redban]

Cod.

[Jamie Vernon]

Let's just guess.

[Brian Redban]

All right. I mean, it's way up there because I know, I know there's some girls that make over a million a month.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, but they're small. Excuse me? That's a small number. The. The most of them are actually not making much money at all. And they're giving up their cooter forever, which is not good.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

They're gonna regret it for that 50 bucks a month that they were getting. Most of them are not getting much. It's probably some creep at the office who wants to see your butthole.

[Brian Redban]

I mean, I know girls that. They're just bartenders here in town that make thousands of dollars on it and they don't. Do they just show their brawls like they're not even showing.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's. That's why you only make thousands. You want to make millions A horse. Let's see.

[Brian Redban]

All right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

2019, the revenue of only fans.

[Jamie Vernon]

What do you think?

[Brian Redban]

1.5 billion?

[Jamie Vernon]

Pre.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Pre pandemic.

[Jamie Vernon]

Pre pandemic.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, okay, lower down. I'll just say 1.5 billion.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'll say 700 million.

[Assistant/Researcher]

238 million in 2019. It jumped up to 1.7 in 2020.

[Brian Redban]

1.7 billion. Yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

The next year, that's the beginning of pandemic. But last year, what do you think it was?

[Brian Redban]

Oh God.

[Assistant/Researcher]

2024.

[Brian Redban]

4.5.

[Jamie Vernon]

14. 14 billion.

[Brian Redban]

14 billion. 4.5 billion.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Just, just under 8. That's a lot for 395 million users.

[Jamie Vernon]

And once again, 2019 it was what?

[Assistant/Researcher]

238 million.

[Brian Redban]

Wow.

[Jamie Vernon]

You want to hear the craziest number? I heard something like 50% of American males have a subscription to Only Fans.

[Brian Redban]

50. 50?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Yeah, it's like a statistic thing. I think we looked it up like 10 of all females in America have an only fans account too, or something like that.

[Jamie Vernon]

10. 1 in 10 between a certain age group. Not like old ladies. Imagine.

[Brian Redban]

I like to think it's more.

[Jamie Vernon]

10 is wild.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's pretty wild.

[Jamie Vernon]

1 out of 10 ladies that you meet has an only fans.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And when you think about the number.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Of men, there's 375 or 377.5 million user accounts. That's more than the US population. So obviously it's worldwide, but.

[Jamie Vernon]

Whoa. But isn't it in the United States? Like 150?

[Assistant/Researcher]

United States accounts for approximately 55% of the users. So it's a hundred and you know, 100 what, 2?

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, basically 90 million. Basically half.

[Brian Redban]

That's cool.

[Jamie Vernon]

Half of the population is on only fans in America.

[Brian Redban]

That's crazy.

[Jamie Vernon]

How can that be true? Is that one of those like serious XM things where you get a free subscription?

[Assistant/Researcher]

You know there are free accounts.

[Jamie Vernon]

What? You get a free account for what?

[Assistant/Researcher]

Plenty of girls sign up and like I'm free right now.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Oh, that.

[Assistant/Researcher]

So you can just make an account.

[Jamie Vernon]

But that's still someone. It's like it's not like when YouTube put their phone like their album on your iPhone.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know what I mean?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, it's not like that. But I think it's because more people, everyday people do it. And so like teachers and, and like bartenders, you know what I mean?

[Jamie Vernon]

Like teacher gets fired. I'm a dirty teacher.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that happens a lot. There's a lot of teachers on there.

[Jamie Vernon]

A lot of teachers are kids.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, hot teachers.

[Jamie Vernon]

It's weird. It's weird because everybody smiles when they read those stories. When it's the hot lady and the 15 year old football player, like.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, there's no victims here.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's one way where we were very prejudiced sexually.

[Brian Redban]

Totally.

[Jamie Vernon]

100%. Yeah, it's. But the. This, the sheer number of people on OnlyFans in the United States is mind blowing.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

You know what I mean? Like think about it like that's above everything else. Everything. Like how many subs. Okay. How many subscribers? How many people use Spotify in the United States?

[Brian Redban]

A lot.

[Jamie Vernon]

Let's guess just in the United States.

[Brian Redban]

How many people are in the United States?

[Jamie Vernon]

333 million plus Mexicans.

[Brian Redban]

Okay, I'll say 150 million.

[Jamie Vernon]

150 million.

[Brian Redban]

And that's going high. That's a high number, I think.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay. I don't know because I think worldwide. It's crazy, right? It might be around there. Most people I know have Spotify.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I think.

[Jamie Vernon]

What does that mean though? Is that a biased sampling? Because most people I know are my age or younger and listen to music a lot.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Assistant/Researcher]

Seven worldwide. 713 million 281 premium subscribers in the U.S. it says 55 million paid subscribers.

[Brian Redban]

Paid.

[Jamie Vernon]

Paid.

[Brian Redban]

But there. I bet that's.

[Jamie Vernon]

But how many users in the United States? Because I bet a lot of people don't Paid.

[Brian Redban]

Kind of small.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Assistant/Researcher]

I mean I didn't. Point is just told me paid.

[Jamie Vernon]

So more people are jerking off than listening to me music. That's my point.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. That's crazy, right?

[Jamie Vernon]

And that's only one of many options to get things to jerk off to online.

[Brian Redban]

That's why we need to somehow let find a way to put tits on music, dude.

[Jamie Vernon]

We're gonna have vivid experiences that aren't real. That's what's gonna happen. That's gonna be the future of porn. It's gonna be just like AI so there's no victims. It's not gonna be any real women that are exploited or sex trafficked and forced into doing this. So it's going to be the hottest maid you've ever had in your life coming to your hotel room.

[Brian Redban]

Robots.

[Jamie Vernon]

It won't even be robots, dude. It doesn't even have to be. But it could be. But it doesn't have to be. It can just be an artificial sensation that you. You're. You're willing to sink into this matrix like device and it's going to provide you with some crazy porn scene. That's what it's going to be. And that's going to be a real problem because regular relationships are complicated. You know, people have to be attracted to you. They want to. You know, so you have to work hard to get people attracted to you. Whether it's by making more money or being hotter or whatever the fuck it is. You ultimately want someone to touch you. But it's the moment. Like that is just something you could order up, like play an audiobook. That's a wrap.

[Brian Redban]

Poor females, it's a wrap.

[Jamie Vernon]

They're gonna have to get real jobs. They'd have to start mining thing. They're gonna have no slaves in the Congo. It's gonna be all chicks, chicks mining. Because the thing is they're not going to want to do that, right? Women like their pornography in literature form. They like novels that are dirty and naughty. They don't want to see it, they want to think it. Men want to see it. So the end, they want to just experience it. Like if you could like put goggles on anytime you want. Every time you go to take a shower, you just have wild sex, you know? What are you doing in there? I'm just reading the paper. You're in there fucking, aren't you? Son of a bitch. You just hear it in the background, like she's calling you from another room, like it's just ruining your experience. Stop fucking. I'm not.

[Brian Redban]

I'm reading the paper.

[Jamie Vernon]

I'm taking a shit and reading the paper. Goddammit. Leave me alone. You don't even talk to me. You're in there in the toilet with the girls in that head thing. It's gonna be a problem, man, because there's already so many incels in this country. There's so many guys that just don't have any intimate relationships at all. I think they. I think there was this thing where they were interviewing young men and trying to find out how many of them have sex on a regular basis. And it's one of like lowest numbers ever recorded. Although, like how many times are people asking people, right?

[Brian Redban]

And who are they asking?

[Jamie Vernon]

How much you count? Do that. Yeah, but like, I think it's a very unusual thing for like people you know, age 18 to, you know, 34 or whatever. Like young men are having less sex now than I think ever. I think a lot of that is they're not even trying because of the access to porn.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And by the time it comes dinner time, take a lady out, you got no jizz left, you'd be beating off all day.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, yeah, right. And they're probably also not telling the truth. Or not like, I'm not talking to you. Who are you working for? Like, you know what I mean? These kids are like, don't trust anybody. And they're not talking to the press.

[Jamie Vernon]

Right, Right. Yeah, that's probably true too. Right.

[Brian Redban]

They know about privacy and stuff. I'm not telling you.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah, they're using VPNs.

[Brian Redban]

VPNs off.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. If you have a VPN, that's the only way you could protect from people knowing exactly what you're doing at any given moment.

[Brian Redban]

Moment.

[Jamie Vernon]

And even then, like, they're tracking you with metadata. They're tracking where your cell phone's pinging to different towers, you know, and then we're giving into more and more of that. And then every time a new phone comes out, it's like a little more invasive.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Give up. We done? We're done, we're done. Red man just checked out. See how we know. It's like, it's like my dog, when he doesn't want to bring the ball back anymore, he's like, we're done, we're done.

[Brian Redban]

How's the new dog?

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh, he's.

[Brian Redban]

Oh my God, I love him.

[Jamie Vernon]

Oh my God, he's so cute. He's so adorable. He's the sweetest little thing. Everybody who picks him up, all he does is just bathe you with kisses. He barks when he kisses you. He gets so excited. He barks. His tail like, wags his whole little body when he wa. He's like one of them dogs. Like when he wags his tail, his whole body. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. He's just jumping up. Touch you.

[Brian Redban]

I've always wanted one of those dogs ever since I saw insects in the city. Like the, the. What are they called there?

[Jamie Vernon]

Is it King Charles? Cavalier Spaniel?

[Brian Redban]

Charlotte had one of those.

[Jamie Vernon]

That's so sweet. And you know, it made me love Marshall even more if that was possible. Cuz he's the sweetest dog to this little puppy. He lo. He goes to him with toys, try to get him to play with him. It's the most adorable thing of all time. Like, he's just. Golden retrievers are the sweetest animals. Like, we don't deserve them. We don't deserve them. They're so sweet. Like, Marshall has never been anything but sweet a day in his life. He's never had a cunty moment on earth. He's been alive for almost nine years. Never had a cunty moment. And he's so sweet to this little puppy. He has this toy, it's like an octopus looking thing. And he comes over and brings his little octopus over to Charlie. Charlie grabs it and they're Playing around. It is so cute, man. He puts his paw on him like this. Like a gentle paw on him when they're playing around with stuff.

[Brian Redban]

You going to clone Marshall?

[Jamie Vernon]

No.

[Brian Redban]

Why?

[Jamie Vernon]

Cuz he's. He's Marshall. He's an original. He's. He's his own thing. I don't believe in that. I don't think you have to do that. Like, that's crazy. You meet a new dog.

[Brian Redban]

All right?

[Jamie Vernon]

Meet a new dog. I've had a bunch of amazing dogs, you know, and they're all different. And that's part of the fun. Fun. You know, part of the fun is. You don't know, like, this guy's crazy. Like, what is he doing?

[Brian Redban]

Right?

[Jamie Vernon]

He gets to the door, he goes, where did you learn that?

[Brian Redban]

Johnny Cash.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Oh, Johnny was. He was the sweetest.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Yeah. Every dog's got their own thing, man. That's like, part of the fun about being a dog owner. They're all their own weird little personalities.

[Brian Redban]

One of my dogs is getting so old, though. It's blind and deaf now. And it's the saddest thing. Just she's constantly running into walls, you know?

[Jamie Vernon]

And, like, when Johnny was the last year of his life, I used to have to carry him outside.

[Brian Redban]

That's what we have to do with this dog. Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

And Johnny was big, so I used to. I was the only one who could carry him. He's like 140 pounds. So I'd have to open the door and I have to, like, pick him up and take him into the yard. He would shit and piss. He could barely walk. He could literally barely bend down to shit. It was horrible.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I'm going through. The thing right now is, like. I don't know if I should spend because it's super expensive, the money to do the cataracts so she can see again, at least so that.

[Jamie Vernon]

How old is she?

[Assistant/Researcher]

13?

[Brian Redban]

14. 13. And they usually last about 15. So maybe one year left.

[Jamie Vernon]

Surgery is probably gonna wreck her.

[Brian Redban]

I know it's gonna be painful. Imagine giving one more year. Like, she can see now because she's just so sad and depressed.

[Jamie Vernon]

She might just die.

[Brian Redban]

I know.

[Jamie Vernon]

She might die from the operation. She's so old. It sucks. That's the thing about dogs. It's so hard, is they don't. Like, Johnny was 13 when he died.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Jamie Vernon]

Maybe 14. Like he was in. The last year was rough. It was so sad.

[Brian Redban]

I don't want to deal with.

[Jamie Vernon]

I know. I know it's hard, man. It's hard, you know, but that's what happens when you love something. Like the. When it. It's the. You got to have the missing it. Like, there's got to be grief, because if not for that, you don't feel the love. Yeah, the love and the loss, they're all connected in some weird way, unfortunately. And with dogs, they're the perfect example that. Because they're just little love machines, they just give you love, and they are a direct reflection of how you treat them. You know, if you treat them well and they're happy to see you and they're sweet to everybody, like, that's. That's a good life, a love life. It just doesn't last long, you know, Marshall's nine. You know, I give him the best food he can get. He's very healthy. He's farmer's dog, gets plenty of exercise, but I know it's only a matter of time. And it's sad. Yeah, it's hard. Anyway. Bring this train into a screeching halt. What. What are you up to? Kill Tony? You're always doing some weird on.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, I'm doing. I got my fake band going on right now, Cat Bread.

[Jamie Vernon]

What is up that on. How do you do that?

[Brian Redban]

It's on Spotify, YouTube, Cap Red Music. It's pretty much. I've always made music like Olive Garden, Butthole, all those songs I used to make, but I used to sing it, but so now I just. I write a bunch of music and. And I use AI to sing it for me and make it a chick. So I'm like. And I have, like, a music. Bunch of music videos and stuff on YouTube that I'm using AI to make. And I scan Janice's face in it, so she plays like, the.

[Jamie Vernon]

Are you still doing the. The virtual reality rooms?

[Brian Redban]

I'm doing that, too. Yeah. I'm doing Virtual Red Band. I do that, like, once or twice a week. And I'm. And when.

[Jamie Vernon]

How do people know when you're going to do that? You just.

[Brian Redban]

I tweet it. Instagram or. That's on redband on YouTube. But yeah, all my stuff is on YouTube. Red band and Cap Red Music.

[Jamie Vernon]

Okay.

[Brian Redban]

All right.

[Jamie Vernon]

All right. I love you.

[Brian Redban]

Love you, buddy.

[Jamie Vernon]

Love you, too. Bye. Everybody.

[Assistant/Researcher]

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