The Joe Rogan Experience #2443 – Filippo Biondi

Date: January 23, 2026
Host: Joe Rogan
Guest: Filippo Biondi, Telecommunications Engineer, Satellite Imaging Researcher

Episode Overview

This episode features Filippo Biondi, a telecommunications engineer and researcher at the forefront of an explosive and controversial new study of Egypt’s Giza Plateau. Biondi discusses his team’s use of advanced satellite-based radio tomography to map the interior and substructures of the pyramids, revealing what he describes as vast, previously unknown, architecturally regular chambers and shafts far beneath the ancient monuments. If verified, these findings could overturn conventional views of ancient history, the purpose of Egypt’s pyramids, and humanity’s technological past.

The conversation explores:

• How the scanning technology works and its scientific validation
• The discovery process and its implications for archaeology
• The skepticism Biondi faces from mainstream academia
• Speculation about the pyramids’ true purpose and age
• Future projects aiming to unlock more ancient secrets worldwide

Sections

1. Filippo Biondi – Background and Credentials

Timestamps: 00:13–04:00

• Biondi summarizes his education in telecommunications engineering at the University of Lecce, with a PhD from Sapienza University, Rome, and years working on radar and satellite technologies, some under classified Italian military projects.
• He’s part of a research group led by Corrado Malanga, professor of chemistry at the University of Pisa.
• Anecdotes about Italian mathematician Ennio De Giorgi and early academic influences.
• The development of the scanning method came from defense research and collaborations with the Italian Research Council in Bari.

Notable Quote:
“Radar is installed on board on the satellite… it is able to catch snapshots of the Earth... this vibration… carries inside of this the information that is located underground.” – Filippo Biondi [04:00]

2. How the Technology Works

Timestamps: 03:34–07:22

• The technique uses synthetic aperture radar (SAR) on satellites orbiting at ~600 km altitude.
• Utilizes the Doppler effect (frequency change due to motion) to isolate “evanescent waves”— mechanical vibrations at Earth’s surface that encode information about subsurface structures.
• Processing these vibrations allows tomographic imaging (essentially 3D “x-rays” of subterranean features).

Notable Moment:
Joe Rogan jokes about Italian-English accents, and Biondi explains scientific terminology for clarity.

3. Initial Discoveries and Expanding the Research

Timestamps: 07:22–11:13

• First focus: Mapping the known chambers inside the Great Pyramid (Khufu/Khnum Khufu).
• Results accurately matched known structures: the Grand Gallery, Queen’s Chamber, King’s Chamber—validating the technique.
• Published initial peer-reviewed results in 2020.
• Expansion to scanning the whole Giza Plateau, spurred by co-researcher Armando May.

Notable Quote:
“We have detected this multi-layer structure… from space… and also… gave an image of the other known structures.” – Filippo Biondi [07:36]

4. The Jaw-Dropping Discovery: Massive Underground Structures

Timestamps: 10:26–15:44

• The team observed immense, uniformly aligned columns beneath the pyramids, 20 meters in diameter, connected by gigantic spiral or coil-like arrangements.
• Initial skepticism: Biondi and colleagues withheld the data for six months, suspecting artifacts in their processing.
• Used multiple independent satellite systems (Italian, American Capella Space, etc.) and replicated results over 200+ scans for confirmation.

Notable Quote:
“We started to use also other satellites…when we had the same results… we decided to disclosure.” – Filippo Biondi [12:03]

5. Scientific Validation and Comparisons

Timestamps: 14:01–15:22; 39:03–39:59; 124:55–126:50

• To counter skepticism, Biondi notes the method’s proven ability to accurately measure known subterranean structures like the Gran Sasso particle laboratory (1.4 km under a mountain), and dams or tunnels worldwide.
• Radar from space is precise due to low environmental noise.

Notable Quote:
“I invented the method. Yes, I know. But I tell you that I am happy if somebody can replicate things.” – Filippo Biondi [39:39]

6. Pushback from Academia and Archaeology

Timestamps: 13:14–16:48; 94:53–95:02

• Rogan and Biondi discuss entrenched resistance from archaeologists ("gatekeepers"), especially in established institutions, often due to the paradigm-shifting implications of the research.
• Some critics claimed radar can’t penetrate to those depths; Biondi clarifies that the method captures data from surface entropy, not EM wave penetration.
• Patent status: Biondi reveals a new patent has been filed, superseding older ones.

Notable Quotes:
“They want this to not be true, regardless of the sheer number of scans…” – Joe Rogan [13:14]
“It is something that maybe is too big, too huge to be disclosured like that today.” – Filippo Biondi [15:22]

7. What’s Under the Pyramids?

Timestamps: 17:38–24:21; 28:27–35:01

• Descriptions of vast columns spiraling downward beneath each pyramid, ending in gigantic, uniform chambers—roughly 80 x 80 x 80 meters each.
• Coils and other patterns suggest possible engineered intent, with hypotheses ranging from electrical/chemical reactors to power plants, matching ideas from thinkers like Christopher Dunn and Jeffrey (referencing the "Giza Power Plant" theory).
• Connection found between the Sphinx, pyramids, and shafts that may give physical access.
• Shafts go as deep as 600 meters, apparently blocked by debris—possibly from the prehistoric great flood.
• Biondi’s scans also identify horizontal corridors connecting different structures, all of which appear human-made.

Notable Quotes:
“All with uniform results?” – Joe Rogan
“Yes. Wow. Yes.” – Filippo Biondi [13:11]
“We are sure… the pyramids are not tombs.” – Filippo Biondi [16:59]
“A vertical structure…with a spiral nature…” – Filippo Biondi [18:35]
“At the end of the structures, there are huge chambers, approximately 80 meters.” – Filippo Biondi [23:34]

8. Implications: What Was the Purpose, and Who Built These?

Timestamps: 24:21–29:56; 55:14–63:33

• Strong support for non-tomb theories: pyramids as energy-generating devices, resonant structures, spiritual/mystical “gateways.”
• Biondi’s simulation work suggests the “sarcophagus” is a live-person resonance chamber, potentially for consciousness-altering or out-of-body experiences.
• “Coils” observed around underground columns may be indicative of electromagnetic, vibrational, or chemical processes.
• All major Giza monuments share identical underground patterns, suggesting a single ancient plan.

Notable Quotes:
“We have only the measurements—now we need to go see what there is inside.” – Filippo Biondi [25:40]
“It is time to go there and see what there is in person.” – Filippo Biondi [34:00]
“Those shafts…are for us. They are calling us. Our rights are to clean them and see what there is and go down and explore them personally.” – Filippo Biondi [49:56]

9. The Age of the Pyramids—How Old Are These Structures, Really?

Timestamps: 63:36–73:59

• Biondi posits the pyramids may be far older than 2500 BC—possibly built between the mythic Zep Tepi period (36,000 years ago) and the end of the last Ice Age (~11,000 years ago).
• Supporting evidence: Salt deposits inside the pyramid (suggesting ancient flooding), vertical erosion of the Sphinx (dated to periods of higher rainfall millennia ago), and conflicting king lists (Zep Tepi).
• Mainstream academia prefers to attribute older texts to myth, but Biondi advocates more open investigation.

Notable Quotes:
“The pyramids are older than the dates that are written in typical history books.” – Filippo Biondi [63:53]
“I live in Italy. But now…I wish to see the effective structure.” – Filippo Biondi [41:25]

10. Funding, Excavation, and Next Steps

Timestamps: 45:04–48:09; 79:44–81:21

• Biondi’s group is readying formal project proposals to begin careful excavation and in-situ exploration, with preference for robotic over human investigation due to safety concerns.
• Estimated funding needs: $20 million+, mostly for robotic machinery and safe access.
• University of Ferrara (Italy) likely to take lead on excavation for scientific impartiality.
• Anticipation of public fundraising and possible international support.

Notable Quotes:
“We want to use drones, robots…using machines, not humans.” – Filippo Biondi [46:34]

11. Global Implications and Future Projects

Timestamps: 37:39–38:46; 108:23–110:54

• Plans to scan and potentially explore other megalithic sites: Puma Punku, Göbekli Tepe, the Labyrinth of Herodotus in Egypt, Peru’s Sacsayhuamán, Gubbio (Italy), Karakora (Russia).
• Technology’s utility in resource mapping (water, mining), with philanthropic aims via a new foundation in Malta.
• Satellite-based scans can be programmed for any location globally, daily.

12. Radical Theories—Philosophy, Harmonics, and Mysticism

Timestamps: 53:18–61:56; 92:10–103:08

• Biondi explains the “Z” (multi-layer monument) within the Great Pyramid as a giant vibrational antenna, capably acting as a low-pass filter and resonance device.
• Suggests ancient builders used harmonic principles, resonance, and “working with nature” rather than “forcing” things, as in modern hot fusion vs. cold fusion analogy.
• All measurements in the pyramids relate to universal constants.

Notable Quotes:
“You attract energy in terms of mechanical vibration and propagate them below…” – Filippo Biondi [53:22]
“Instead of doing it against nature, they were doing it in harmony with nature…” – Joe Rogan [100:53]

13. Broader Context: Lost Civilizations and Archaeological Blind Spots

Timestamps: 87:00–117:04

• Discussion extends to underground labyrinths (Labyrinth of Herodotus), anomalous structures in Russia (Karakora shaft), and other found-but-unexplored sites.
• Many such sites only “fringe” because of lack of official investigation; methodology could revolutionize archaeology if broadly adopted.
• The main argument: If the paradigm is wrong, evidence keeps piling up until acceptance becomes inevitable.

Notable Quotes:
“They are the gatekeepers…fighting an uphill battle because at a certain point…you have to give up and go ‘I don’t know’.” – Joe Rogan [114:49]

Memorable and Notable Quotes & Moments

• Filippo Biondi on the Spiritual Purpose of the Pyramid (Out-of-Body Hypothesis):
  “Maybe that person was ready to have an out of the body experience induced like a gateway?” [56:57]
• Joe Rogan on Paradigm Shifts:
  “If this is true…this rewrites history because you’re dealing with an advanced civilization demonstrably more advanced than us.” [29:56]
• Filippo Biondi (About Disclosing the Findings):
  “The results were always the same. So we decided to disclose this.” [33:10]
• Joe Rogan (on Egyptian Official Reaction):
  “Is there resistance from Egypt and the people that are in control of that area or are they fascinated by it?” [34:03]
• Biondi’s Simple Philosophy:
  “The universe is like a book that is open. We have to just observe it. It is not difficult. It’s very simple to read the universe.” [100:56]
• Jamie’s Analogy:
  “If you found Disney World now in a thousand years, you’d be like, what the… They worship mice.” [59:11]

Additional Timestamps of Interest

• First mention of deep shafts and potential chambers below Giza: [10:26], [19:43], [28:21]
• Direct discussion of “coils” and structural patterns: [21:30], [25:34]
• Estimated cost, logistics, and future plans for Giza site excavation: [45:04–47:01]
• Skepticism, history wars, and commentary on academic resistance: [13:14], [39:03], [49:17], [94:53]
• References and plans for scanning other ancient sites: [37:42], [108:23], [109:02]
• Philosophical reflections and the “species with amnesia” meme: [127:21–127:41]
• Website for following Biondi’s work: harmonicsar.com [128:23]

Conclusion

Filippo Biondi’s work—if substantiated—represents a seismic shift in the study of ancient Egypt and potentially, the very timeline of human civilization. By employing space-based radio tomography, Biondi and his team have reportedly uncovered vast, regular, and unexplained man-made structures beneath Egypt’s iconic pyramids, structures whose scale and complexity far exceed traditional explanations.

Biondi maintains that these findings, met with both excitement and deep skepticism, demand open scientific exploration. While he resists making wild claims, he’s clear: the pyramids are not tombs, and our picture of prehistory is glaringly incomplete.

For more:
Visit Filippo Biondi’s project at harmonicsar.com.