Podcast Summary: The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast – Episode 495: The CIA, Corruption, and the Biden Heirs | Miranda Devine

Host: Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
Guest: Miranda Devine, Journalist for the New York Post
Episode Focus: Exploration of the Biden family’s alleged corruption, the role of the Deep State, and media suppression surrounding Hunter Biden’s laptop scandal.

1. Introduction

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson introduces the episode by welcoming Miranda Devine, a journalist renowned for her investigative work on the Biden family and the Deep State. He references their previous discussion on her book Laptop from Hell and introduces her latest work, The Big Guy, which continues her scrutiny of the Biden family’s alleged misdeeds and the intertwined influence of intelligence agencies.

Jordan Peterson [00:15]: “Miranda is a journalist for the New York Post, and she broke the laptop story, which was very rapidly dismissed as Russian misinformation by a cabal of ex intelligence agents and operatives and was also suppressed on Twitter and Facebook and other venues.”

2. The Laptop Story and Media Suppression

Miranda Devine delves into the origins and repercussions of the Hunter Biden laptop story. She emphasizes how the narrative was swiftly dismissed as Russian disinformation by a group of 51 intelligence officials, many of whom are affiliated with the CIA, FBI, and State Department. This dismissal coincided with the suppression of the story on major social media platforms, leading to significant political ramifications.

Miranda Devine [02:57]: “The very same people, that sort of unaccountable cabal of the intelligence community... have protected Joe Biden for so long and his family from the consequences of their greed...”

Key Points:

• The laptop contained incriminating information about Hunter Biden’s business dealings.
• Social media platforms like Twitter and Facebook censored the New York Post’s reporting.
• The "dirty 51 letter," signed by former intelligence officials, labeled the laptop as Russian disinformation.

3. The Deep State’s Influence and Trump’s Foreign Policy

Devine and Peterson discuss the concept of the Deep State—a collective of intelligence and defense officials who, according to Devine, manipulate political outcomes to maintain their power and control. They argue that Donald Trump’s unconventional and effective foreign policies, particularly towards North Korea, Russia, and Iran, threatened this establishment.

Miranda Devine [06:28]: “The agenda of this Cabal...view Donald Trump as an existential threat, not to America or democracy...but to them and their power and control over the presidency.”

Key Points:

• Trump’s direct and no-nonsense approach disrupted established foreign policy strategies.
• Devine cites Trump’s handling of North Korea and Iran as examples of his effectiveness versus Obama and Biden.
• The Deep State perceived Trump’s policies as undermining their control, leading to concerted efforts to discredit him.

4. Financial Corruption and Biden Family Holdings

The discussion shifts to the financial dealings of the Biden family, focusing on Hunter Biden’s business activities and their implications. Devine outlines how Hunter’s foreign business ventures, especially with Chinese companies like CEFC, resulted in substantial financial gains, some of which allegedly benefited Joe Biden indirectly.

Miranda Devine [13:50]: “There is an overlap between the signatories of that dirty 51 letter...and they didn't find much in terms of direct corruption from Joe Biden.”

Key Points:

• Hunter Biden received significant payments from Chinese firms, with some funds allegedly funneled to Joe Biden.
• The $30 million referenced pertains to funds from CEFC, tied to the Belt and Road Initiative.
• Legal investigations struggled to conclusively link Joe Biden to direct financial misconduct, though evidence suggested financial benefits through convoluted channels.

5. CIA Involvement and Suppression of Evidence

Devine claims that the CIA played a pivotal role in suppressing the Hunter Biden laptop story and protecting the Biden family. She asserts that the CIA intervened to prevent prosecutors from interviewing key witnesses like Kevin Morris, Hunter’s Hollywood attorney, who allegedly funneled funds to manage Hunter’s personal and legal troubles.

Miranda Devine [34:21]: “The CIA is always a shadowy presence in this Biden tale of corruption. Wherever Hunter Biden fall into peril, this sort of invisible hand reaches in to save him.”

Key Points:

• The CIA allegedly instructed prosecutors to halt investigations into certain financial transactions.
• Former CIA officials were instrumental in framing the laptop story as Russian disinformation.
• This manipulation aimed to shield the Biden family from legal repercussions and public scrutiny.

6. Joe Biden’s Removal and Kamala Harris’s Role

The conversation explores the sudden political sidelining of Joe Biden during the 2020 election cycle. Devine suggests that Biden’s perceived cognitive decline was exploited by Democratic donors and Kamala Harris to oust him as the presidential candidate.

Miranda Devine [56:51]: “Joe Biden had cognitive problems...They let him go out there and destroy himself.”

Key Points:

• Biden’s public struggles during debates and speeches were seen as vulnerabilities.
• Democratic elites, influenced by Kamala Harris and major donors like Laurene Jobs, orchestrated Biden’s removal in favor of Harris.
• Harris’s subsequent behavior and campaign strategies were viewed as attempts to distance herself from Biden’s faltering image.

7. Analysis of Kamala Harris’s Leadership Style

Peterson expresses confusion and criticism towards Kamala Harris’s demeanor and policy interests. Devine voices similar sentiments, describing Harris as more focused on accumulating statistics and maintaining a certain public image rather than substantive policy-making.

Dr. Jordan Peterson [68:40]: “What is she? What is she after, as far as you're concerned?”

Miranda Devine [69:14]: “She seems a little shy to me, a little nervous...she thinks you're dumb, which may be why she speaks in this sort of baby talk.”

Key Points:

• Harris is perceived as lacking genuine interest in policy, focusing instead on public image and statistics.
• Her communication style is criticized for being patronizing and condescending.
• The partnership between Biden and Harris is seen as strained, with strategic responses overshadowing authentic leadership.

8. The Future and Implications for American Politics

In closing, Devine warns about potential assassination attempts on Trump if he returns to power, suggesting that the Deep State sees him as a significant threat to their dominance.

Miranda Devine [77:17]: “They know that he will come in and clean them up. And he's got a good team behind him...including Elon, who will help him do that.”

Key Points:

• The Deep State’s opposition to Trump may escalate, posing risks to his life and political career.
• Trump’s alliances with influential figures like Elon Musk and RFK Jr. are seen as strengthening his position against entrenched interests.
• The ongoing struggle between Trump and the Deep State is framed as a battle for the soul of American governance and transparency.

9. Notable Quotes

• Jordan Peterson [05:00]: “Success is not a place you get to and stay. It also integrates the idea of the journey and the idea of the destination. And so there now you have a definition of success.”

• Miranda Devine [11:33]: “Trump managed to neutralise Iran. ISIS was a huge problem...Donald Trump vanquished ISIS, never got much credit for it because we all forgot that ISIS ever existed.”

• Miranda Devine [34:21]: “The CIA is always a shadowy presence in this Biden tale of corruption. Wherever Hunter Biden fall into peril, this sort of invisible hand reaches in to save him.”

• Dr. Jordan Peterson [40:17]: “Why did these 51 people do this? And what do you think Trump will and should do if he's elected with these people?”

• Miranda Devine [56:51]: “If you wanted to get rid of him, that would be the way to do it.”

10. Conclusion

Dr. Jordan Peterson and Miranda Devine engage in a critical examination of the Biden family’s alleged corruption, the influential role of the Deep State, and the media’s complicity in suppressing damaging information. They present a narrative that underscores the systemic challenges facing American democracy, the manipulation of public narratives by entrenched interests, and the precarious position of political figures like Donald Trump in this ongoing struggle.

For listeners seeking an in-depth analysis of political corruption and media suppression, this episode offers a provocative and detailed discourse on the intersection of power, influence, and transparency in contemporary American politics.

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