The Josh Carr Show

Episode: FINALLY: Matt Walsh OBLITERATES Candace Owens Over Erika Kirk Attacks
Host: Joshua Carr
Date: February 27, 2026

Episode Overview

Joshua Carr reviews a recent, heated controversy between Daily Wire hosts, specifically how Matt Walsh directly condemned Candace Owens for her attacks on Erika Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk. The episode contrasts Walsh’s clear moral stance with Michael Knowles’ more moderate, conciliatory approach, and takes apart Candace Owens’ first episode of her “Bride of Charlie” series. Carr positions himself and other conservatives as defenders of truth and decency, promising his own investigatory series in response.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Michael Knowles’ Response: Calls for Restraint

[00:27 – 02:53]

Carr opens by detailing Knowles’ suggestion that conservatives stop focusing on infighting, particularly the ongoing feud involving Candace Owens and Erika Kirk.
Knowles frames intra-movement criticism as distracting and possibly harmful:

“Some right wing influencers seem to think that the best way to honor Charlie’s legacy...is to focus all of the attention all the time on the relatively few people who are criticizing [Erika]...” – Michael Knowles, [01:24]
Carr strongly disagrees, arguing that “defending good people” is never misguided and criticizes Knowles’ desire for unity as “moral cowardice.”

“It is still moral cowardice not to call out bad behavior and lies, even if it’s coming from your own family.” – Josh Carr, [03:53]
Carr notes Knowles’ personal closeness to Owens as her child’s godfather, but insists this should be even more reason to correct her missteps.

2. Matt Walsh’s Statement: Direct and Unambiguous Defense of Erika Kirk

[05:48 – 10:10]

Carr praises Walsh’s clarity and moral solidity, playing multiple quotes in which Walsh unequivocally calls out Owens’ accusations as groundless and dangerous.
Walsh refutes the premise of Candace’s attacks:

“His attacks on Erica, by Candace and by everyone else engaged in this campaign are wrong. Deeply, desperately wrong. Wrong morally and factually.” – Matt Walsh, [05:48]

“The whole crux of the matter here is not just that Erica is a grieving widow, but that she is innocent of the accusations that are being made or implied against her... There is no evidence that she did any of that. No evidence at all, period.” – Matt Walsh, [05:56]
Carr underscores the personal cost to Erika Kirk and her children:

“Imagine what it must be like for her. And because of that, we must defend her.” – Josh Carr, [06:56]
Walsh further dissects the spurious “evidence” used by Owens, critiquing reliance on hearsay and irrelevant detail:

“They would not be compelling to a grand jury or a prosecutor or a judge... you would be laughed out of the room. There’s no case here. There’s no evidence of anything.” – Matt Walsh, [08:17]

“You could tell me that Erica’s mother was a serial killer and her father was a terrorist, and it wouldn’t move us one inch in the direction of proving that Erica has done anything wrong.” – Matt Walsh, [09:12]
To conclude, Walsh highlights the double standard in public scrutiny:

“All of the evidence... connects Tyler Robinson to it. And yet for some reason he’s not the subject of public scorn. Instead it all goes to the widow of the man he killed.” – Matt Walsh, [10:10]

3. Jack Posobiec and the Shift Toward Clarity

[12:20 – 12:56]

Carr features Jack Posobiec, who has finally offered public support for Erika Kirk, emphasizing that the real evidence points toward Tyler Robinson:

“It’s very clear that Tyler Robinson is the killer because again, his parents were the ones that turned him in. It’s really as simple as that.” – Jack Posobiec, [12:20]
Posobiec derides the necessity for “conspiracy” when the facts are straightforward.

4. Candace Owens’ “Bride of Charlie” Series and Carr’s Review

[14:12 – 18:22]

Carr plays clips from Candace Owens’ new series, noting how she instructs viewers not to “pray for Erica's children”:

“You should not be praying for the children because investigative series is coming out about their mother who has chosen to be the CEO in her husband’s stead. That’s a decision that was made.” – Candace Owens, [14:44]
Carr condemns the emotional toll this public attention will take on Kirk’s children:

“What they’ll see when they get on the Internet is hundreds of videos with Candace Owens’ face on it... They will be traumatized...and that will be because of Candace Owens and her followers.” – Josh Carr, [14:44]
He characterizes the first episode as baseless and sensationalist, mocking its lack of substantive evidence:

“Erica Kirk once had a funny haircut. Charlie and the kids wake up at 3am — suspicious. Her parents got divorced — shocking plot twist. And wait for it, Candace reminds us she’s a notary, which means we can trust her.” – Josh Carr, [17:05]
He plays a segment where Candace outlines an absurdly complex and irrelevant “relative” of Erica’s as supposed evidence:

“Nicole Rothstein... it’s going to sound ridiculous, but this is the reality. If Erica’s telling the truth, Nicole Rothstein would be Erica’s father’s sister’s husband’s previous wife’s daughter’s daughter. In other words, zero blood relation...” – Candace Owens, [17:53]

5. Josh Carr’s Counter-Series Announcement

[18:22 – End]

Carr announces his own three-part investigative series, “Obsession of Charlie,” promising new, incriminating information about Candace Owens.
He frames this as a completely different approach, focused on truth and transparency, and encourages listeners to join his membership for early access.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Joshua Carr on Knowles’ restraint:
“It is still moral cowardice not to call out bad behavior and lies, even if it’s coming from your own family.” [03:53]
Matt Walsh on Candace Owens’ accusations:
“They are wrong morally because they are wrong factually...there is no evidence at all, period.” [05:56]
Matt Walsh on judging Kirk’s innocence:
“You could tell me that Erica’s mother was a serial killer and her father was a terrorist, and it wouldn’t move us one inch in the direction of proving that Erica has done anything wrong.” [09:12]
Jack Posobiec on the real evidence:
“It’s very clear that Tyler Robinson is the killer because again, his parents were the ones that turned him in. It’s really as simple as that.” [12:20]
Candace Owens on praying for children:
“You should not be praying for the children because investigative series is coming out about their mother who has chosen to be the CEO in her husband’s stead.” [14:44]
Carr mocking Owens’ show:
“Erica Kirk once had a funny haircut. Charlie and the kids wake up at 3am — suspicious... and wait for it, Candace reminds us she’s a notary, which means we can trust her.” [17:05]

Timestamps for Key Segments

Opening & Theme [00:27]
Carr introduces the episode’s focus on Walsh, Knowles, and Owens.
Michael Knowles’ Perspective [01:24 – 02:53]
Knowles’ argument for unity and Carr’s sharp rebuttal.
Matt Walsh’s Statement [05:48 – 10:10]
Multiple hard-hitting segments from Walsh, with Carr’s analysis.
Jack Posobiec’s Evidence-based Approach [12:20 – 12:56]
A simple argument against conspiracy theories.
Candace Owens’ Series Reviewed [14:12 – 18:22]
Carr dissects and ridicules the first episode’s content.
Carr’s Announcement [18:22 – End]
Introduction of the new series “Obsession of Charlie.”

Conclusion & Tone

The episode is forceful, combative, and unapologetically biased against Candace Owens, championing Matt Walsh’s factual and moral clarity. Carr positions himself as a truth-teller, committed to defending the unjustly accused and exposing “grifters” in the movement. The language is direct, emotional, and often sarcastic, especially when critiquing Owens’ series.

Summary prepared for listeners seeking a comprehensive understanding of key arguments, positions, and the trajectory of this conservative media controversy.

Transcript

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Josh Carr (0:27)

DEEP SLEEP@8sleep.com Finally, Matt Walsh has sounded off against Candace Owens and it was brilliant. We break down the best moments and why he's absolutely correct. And at the same time as Matt Walsh coming out against Candace Owens, Michael Knowles is flip flopping. It is bad. We will talk all about it. Finally, stick around to the end because we're reviewing episode one of Candace's appalling and fraudulent Erica Kirk series and I have a massive announcement that has to do with Candace Owens that you do not want to miss. So the Daily Wire hosts are kind of on Candace Owens right now. Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles came out both with conflicting videos this week on Candace. Matt Walsh got it right. Michael Knowles got it wrong. So let's start with Michael Knowles. Here he is in his hotel room at the State of the Union telling me that I should stop talking about Candace Owens because it's hurting the conservative movement. Take a look.

Michael Knowles (1:24)

Rhetorical oratorical lessons from President Trump that many Republicans can learn from. This is one that I hope right wing influencers pay close attention to because I've noticed it in recent days, recent weeks. I want to be charitable about this because I think it comes from a normal part of human nature. But it's worth paying attention to. It's worth learning good oratorical lessons from the president here. Some right wing influencers seem to think that the best way to honor Charlie's legacy is and to support Erica and the family is to spend all of their time talking about the people criticizing and antagonizing Erica and Charlie's friends and family. Does that make a lot of sense to you? There are people who seem to think the best way to honor Erica and tpusa and Charlie is to focus all of the attention all the time on the relatively few people who are criticizing and antagonist. The most famous of course, being Candace, who I guess has a new series about Erica, but some other people too. Some smaller accounts as well. This theory, this strategy seems to be a little bit misguided, wouldn't you say? Whether you love Candace, whether you hate Candace, whether you think Candace is sincere, whether you think she's insincere, whether you Whatever psychobabble analysis you have.

Josh Carr (2:53)

No, I don't think it's misguided. I do not ever think that defending good people or being basically slandered is ever misguided. What I do think is misguided, though, is being too afraid to take a stand. And I've gotta say, I really like Michael Knowles. I think he's a great host. But I am so confused on this one right now because earlier this week I played a clip of him talking about how there are demons trying to distract the right and pull us apart. I fully believed when he said that that was his way of talking about Candace Owens without directly saying her name. Because as we'll talk about, he is part of their family to a certain degree. Because who else, I don't know who else is tearing the right apart. It's, I guess Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, sure. But it's kind of one in the same. They're part of this little grifter group there. I don't know who else he'd be talking about, but now it seems he was not talking about her at all. And I have to say, him bringing President Trump into this is very tone deaf. What he's saying is that we all ought to be more like President Trump, that President Trump has created this great coalition of conservatives and people all over to get political things done. And I have to say that is such a stupid thing for Michael Knowles to say, because Michael Knowles is a political commentator and by proxy, to a certain degree, he's a journalist. President Trump is a politician. Those are two fundamentally different things. And the reason why earlier I pointed out that he's in a hotel room at the State of the Union is because maybe what Michael Knowles wants is to stop being a political commentator. Maybe he thinks of himself more as a politician. Now, if you want to be a politician, go ahead and create your diverse coalition. That's totally fine. And I don't fault Donald Trump for doing that. But if you're a political commentator, especially a Christian one, you tell the truth. It does not matter if it hurts the coalition. You tell the truth every time. I think he needs to remember his role. Now, before we get back to Matt Walsh, who has a very opposite view of Michael Knowles, I will give Michael some grace on this. He is Candace's kid's godfather, if you didn't know. I understand that that comes with responsibilities and a closeness. I understand that it would be difficult to call her out by name, but I see no reason why he can't come out and say that Candace should quit what she's doing. He doesn't have to call her satanic like I have, I guess, is what I'm trying to say. I've got no connection to Candace, and so I can say some pretty harsh things about her that I think. I don't think Michael needs to go that far. But. But I think it is still moral cowardice not to call out bad behavior and lies, even if it's coming from your own family. In fact, I'll go one further on that. I think that you should do it, especially because they're part of your family. I think when your family does bad things, you of all people have the responsibility to put them back on track. Matt Walsh has finally stood up to the witch. Finally. And the best part of this episode on Candace and Erica is not that he was ruthless with Candace because that really wasn't the case. He was not mean in any sense. The best part was that he was crystal clear. Take a look.