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One of the greatest things about our left wing political adversaries is when the mass just totally drops and they say what they really mean. In this case they actually want to destroy the U.S. constitution. No, that is not an exaggeration. I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. You know, in general, I just love these mask off moments. I have loved this for years and years and years. I'm not a huge fan of hiding your political beliefs behind all sorts of lofty sounding rhetoric and behind euphemisms and metaphors and all this overly abstract language. I think about this often when it comes to the abortion debate. There was a column that was written roughly 13 years ago in the context of the horrific late term abortionist Kermit Gosnell and his subsequent prosecution. This all happening in Philadelphia. And there was a column that Rich Lowry of National Review wrote that I think about often referring to abortion as the less euphemistic imperative where they just can't speak directly about abort is because if you talk directly about what abortion is, then you will see the reality of what that actually looks like in practice. By the way. Stay tuned on that note this Friday we're gonna have a great conversation with Lila Rose of Live Action. So if you're an ardent pro lifer, which I hope you are, because you really ought to be there. Stay tuned for more on that note on Friday. But the point for today's purposes is this many times you have the left duck behind all sorts of euphemism. So in the abortion context, they talk about being quote unquote, pro choice, your right to choose. They will never talk about what the quote unquote actual right is to do, which is to snu out an unborn human life, in this case there. And oftentimes when it comes to their view of the American system of governance there, they talk about how we have to improve it and to fight historic injustices. And sometimes the mask slips just a little bit, such as when it came to Barack Obama on the Precipice of the 2008 presidential election when Barack Obama infamously said that we are just days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America. Well, as many people note at the time, at a basic level, one does not seek to fundamentally transform that which he already loves. But that was just a teeny weeny little bit of the slipping of the mask. That was nothing. That was small potatoes compared to What? Not the 2008 and 2012 Democratic nominee Barack Obama, but the 2024 Democratic nominee Kamala Harris. That is small potatoes compared to what Kamala Harris just did on a podcast this past week. So Kamala Harris was on a podcast called the Win with Black Women podc, which I guess is a real thing. I certainly cannot say that I've heard of it. And it was during a Wednesday evening live stream when Kamala Harris, who is exactly the kind of person who is just so, so bitter there is just dripping with contempt, dripping with arrogance, dripping with hubris. How, how could I possibly lose selection to this racist, misogynist, pedophile, terrible enemy of human civilization and humanity at large, Donald Trump there? No, Kamala Harris fundamentally thinks that the only reason that she lost to this day is due to racism and sexism, which is why. Which is why she's trying to burn it all down. Let's go ahead and play. Clip 1. This is Kamala Harris this past Wednesday on the Win with Black Women podcast. Go ahead and take a listen to her. No Bad Ideas brainstorm.
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Say look, this is a moment where there are no bad ideas. No bad idea brainstorm is what I'd like to call it in that no bad ideas brainstorm. We talk about what we need to do and think about doing around the Electoral College. We talk about the idea of Supreme Court reform, which includes expanding the Supreme Court. We invite a conversation about multi member districts. We talk about, look, if we win the Senate, which we should, and we will, then the Senate Judiciary Committee should have rules that they put in place. So when these people come before as nominees to the Supreme Court and lie that they are held to account and consequence. Not just that somebody goes on cable news and says they lied, but that there are rules in place to actually penalize people for lying to a Senate Judiciary Committee.
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Yeah, we call that perjury. Actually, you're not allowed to do it. Perjury has been a crime for about as long as this country's been around. So I'm not entirely sure what she's getting at there. I've got a lot to say when it comes to the whole court packing debate. But for now, let's go ahead and just get all of this garbage on the table and then we will unpack on this side. Let's go ahead and for now and play more from Kamala Harris. This past Wednesday on the Win with Black Women podcast.
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Let's talk about statehood for Puerto Rico and D.C. these are the things I think that we've got to do. We've got to neutralize these red states from cheating, including blue states, expanding their maps. And all of this I think is look, we gotta fight fire with fire.
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Ah yes, let's fight fire with fire. AKA exactly the logic that led to the attempted assassination of Donald Trump in July 2024 in Butler, Pennsylvania, in September 2024 in West Palm Beach, Florida and just a few weeks ago in Washington, D.C. is that the kind of fire that you want to fight with fire? Kamala Harris, really, truly, they want to burn all down. We've got a lot to say on this, folks. This is a century plus long war between the American left and the Constitution. But for now, just a quick word from our sponsor, today's show, which is Angel Studios. You know, for years people have questions and had lots of questions about the origins of COVID 19. Did it come from the so called wet market in Wuhan? Did it come from the lab, the, the lab leak theory? There was the evidence of a lab leak suppressed by folks in the administration in the deep state in the public health bureaucracy at this time. Well now, thank you, Dr. Fauci is digging into those questions head on. Thank you. 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Again, our sponsor for today's show, folks, is Angel Studios. So fundamentally, what you're looking at here is a war from the American left onto the U.S. constitution. And I want to just take the issue of court packing head on. For now, Court packing, which is this notion that Congress can pass a statute. By the way, no one disputes whether this is constitutional. Congress absolutely can pass a statute to either increase or decrease the number of justice of the US Supreme Court. In fact, this actually happens back in the early days in the early 19th century. We've been in nine for a very, very long time, but in the very early days, actually, it was actually not N9. So Congress can do this. No one doubts the constitutionality. Rather, what we doubt is the wisdom or the more spiritual ethical consonants, consistency of packing a court in blatantly partisan fashion simply to try to get your outcomes through. There is the technical, legalistic Constitution, and then there is, let's call it the ethereal or the spiritual constitution. There are these two visions of the Constitution there where something could be technically legalistically possible, nonetheless completely violate the spirit, the overarching ethos of our constitutional structure. Court packing unambiguously does the latter. The most famous example in American history of a tyrannical president trying to pack the Supreme Court, of course, was President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Fdr, who tried to do so to try to uphold various parts of his New Deal economic program by which he was essentially remaking the entire American economy from scratch. He wanted to increase their justice from nine to at least to at least 15, trying to add six justice to essentially just make sure that he got a blank permission slip there. Joe Biden, if you recall, when he came into office, had a whole commission, a whole commission looking, looking into core packing. Ultimately, he decided not to do it. It's frankly appalling that he actually even went there, that he went there in the first place with this whole commission. I wrote a column over five years ago now, around the time that this commission came out with the results in spring of 2021, while the COVID virus was still fairly new. Speaking of, thank you, Dr. Fauci. And my column talked about how Joe Biden, back in 2005, back when he was at least somewhat rational, spoke quite eloquently about court packing. Well, Joe Biden's former or his then future Vice President Kamala Harris, really ought to listen to this 2005 floor speech from Joe Biden. So back in 2005, Joe Biden spoke on the Senate floor and said, quote, in an act of great courage, FDR's, Roosevelt's own party stood up against this Institutional power grip his party. His senators did not agree with the judicial activism of the Supreme Court, but they believed that Roosevelt was wrong to seek to defy established traditions as a way of stopping that activism. So in 2005, Biden was praising the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1937, which is controlled by Democrats, for basically flipping two middle fingers at the most historic Democrat president maybe of all time, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and saying, no, we agree with you when it comes to the economy, we agree with you when it comes to socialism, when it comes to all these public works projects, but we're not going to pat the Supreme Court. But here is the thing folks, it actually gets even better because Joe Biden 2005 was actually understating, was understating the fervor with which the 1937 Democrat controlled Senate Judiciary Committee gave the huge two middle fingers up rebuke to FDR. Here is the actual report that the Senate Judiciary committee issued in 1937. It's eye opening language. Listen carefully. Let us of the 75th Congress, in words that will never be disregarded by any succeeding Congress, declare that we would rather have an independent court, a fearless court, a court that will dare to announce its honest opinions in what it believes to be the defense of the liberties of the people. Then a court that out of fear or sense of obligation to the appointing power or factional passion, approves any measure we may enact. We are not the judges of the judges. We are not above the Constitution. Honestly, I got a chill down my spine just reading those words. Those were Democrats who wrote those words in 1937, at the height of the New Deal. They rebuked FDR in the harshest terms possible. Now, in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary, you had any number of candidates who started talking about the specter yet again of packing the Supreme Court. It is an idea that has been so thoroughly rebuked by all those who have American history that it is shocking that is still on the table today. But at this point, folks, you should be very clear with Kamala Harris letting the mask drop like this, that the Democratic Party, when they are on the ballot this fall, November, when they will be on the ballot in November 2028, in the next presidential election, they will be on the ballot to pack the Supreme Court to abolish the Electoral College, to add puerto Rico and D.C. estates, heck, maybe to abolish the U.S. senate. And why stop from there? And on and on and on it goes. Because fundamentally you're looking at a party that, as we said at the outset is trying to burn it all down. They've lost the argument. And what's left? They want to burn down the entire system. Folks, we've barely scratched surface. There is so much more to unpack here. We're, we're gonna go to a short break. Stay with us. We'll be right back with much more on the other side.
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Welcome back. You know, there's an old lawyer joke, and I tell it often because there's a lot of truth to it. And the old lawyer joke goes as follows. If you are a trial lawyer and if the facts are on your side, you will argue the facts. If the law is on your side, you will argue the law. And if neither the facts nor the law is on your side, then just pound the table as hard as you can. The Democratic Party in the year 2026 has reached the pounding the table era, the town, the pounding the table phase of their long, long devolution into the depths of anti constitutional insanity. At this point, they recognize that the American people are not with them. They are on the wrong side of myriad 80, 20 issues. They are on the wrong side of the gender ideology debate. There actually was a remarkable legal development, by the way, speaking of the gender ideology debate. This happened in Texas just this past week. We didn't have time to cover it on the show, but Ken Paxton, the attorney general of Texas, reached a historic settlement, actually with Texas Children's Hospital, which was the number one servicer of transgender mutilation, quote, unquote surgeries there in the state of Texas, one, if not the single largest in the broader nation based in Houston, Texas, if I believe. And Paxton reached a remarkable settlement whereby among other things, the children's hospital agreed to pledge millions of dollars to a new detransition clinic to help those who are now detransitioning there. It's an incredible settlement, possibly a precedent moving forward as we on the side of sounding continue to win on these 80, 20 issues there. That comes, of course, on the heels of a similar miraculous legal development in New York State back in January whereby you had A so called detransitioner who for the very first time won a medical malpractice tort lawsuit. So just one example of an 8020 issue where the Democratic Party's institutional position, in this case the pro LGBTQ blah, blah, blah position, is being completely rebuked by the American people. They're on the wrong side of 8020 issues when it comes to the illegal immigration debate, when it comes to trying to deport people like Mahmoud Khalil and Kilmar Brego Garcia, AKA the so called Maryland man who was making all the headlines last year. So they fundamentally lost the argument, which is why they lost all seven of the major swing states in the 2024 presidential election. They lost all three of those Rust Belt swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And they lost all four of those Sunbelt swing states of Arizona, Nevada, Georgia and North Carolina. They went over seven. By the way, if you're listening to the Josh Hammer show at the time, you would have heard that prediction right here. That was my final prediction and I hate to say I nailed it. Well, actually I kind of love to say I nailed it because I hope that Trump would win, but I didn't nail it right here on the show. Barack Obama was the number one leading surrogate, by the way, for the Kamala Harris Tim Walls ticket on the campaign trail. So American people fundamentally rebuked the Democratic Party on their radical issues, above all on the immigration issue, on the catastrophic Biden Harris regime approach to the southern border. They rejected Obama ism, which was, which was the ideological predecessor to contemporary wokeism. So all of that was rejected. So at this point, at this point, some Democrats, I think, are actually starting to realize that. They're starting to realize that they are between a rock and a hard place whereby their activist base has shown no self reflection, no introspection whatsoever, no ability frankly to compute. The fact that their ideological zealous, radical activism is completely, completely irreconcilable is in an existential loggerheads with the sentiments of the American people who generally speaking, remain sane and rational and are not afraid of rejecting an increasingly overtly irrational political party, that being the Democrats. So if you've lost the argument, but you're still essentially in hock to your radical base, then what is left for you to do? The solution at this point is to burn down the system and to ensure structurally, as best you can, a permanent Democrat majority. This is the idea behind getting rid of the Electoral College we had a few weeks ago on the show Trent England of Save Our states talking about the horrific advancement of the national popular vote interstate compact. They are now well over 200 electoral college votes. If you get to 270, could be potentially problematic there. As far as trying to have an end around back way to gut the Electoral College there. By the way, the Electoral College actually would not have mattered in 2024 because Donald Trump actually won the national popular vote as well. So bye bye, sayonara. It actually wouldn't have saved Democrats back then. All of this, though, all of this, this attempt to gut the Electoral College, this attempt to pack the Supreme Court, this attempt to add Puerto rico and Washington D.C. as states, because presumptively they will just send for new U.S. senators there. This objection to the U.S. senate in general as this vestigial institution that goes back to patriarchy and white supremacy. And this notion more generally speaking, that the Founding Fathers, who we will celebrate of course mightily this July 4th on the nation's 250th anniversary, this notion that they were just a bunch of white male slaveholders, this is what they actually believe there. This is what they believe because they think that they are better than you. They think that they are better than me. They think that they are better than all of this, all of this and all of us. They think that the Constitution is outdated. Think about some of the beauty of the wisdom of the Founders. The separation of powers construct is one of the key structural features of the US Constitution. Article one, the Congress. Article two, the Presidency. Article three, the judiciary. For over a century, since Woodrow Wilson, Democrats have hated this. They have tried to get around it by every possible means. The greatest possible exposition description of the separation of powers was written by James Madison in the Federalist number 51. It's an oft quota passage, but it is worth listening to. Here's Madison writing in the Federalist number 51. Ambition must be made to counteract ambition. The interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place. It may be a reflection on human nature that such devices should be necessary to control the abuses of government. But what is government itself but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this. You must first enable the government to control the govern, and in the next place oblige it to control itself. Ambition must be made to counter ambition, writes Madison, for the very simple reason that Men are not angels. This is profound stuff. This is the wisdom of men who had just been subjected to the tyranny of King George iii. You can read the entire litany of abuses right there in the Declaration of Independence. They lay it out, spell it out in very, very clear terms. This was their, their wisdom. Having surveyed thousands of years of human history, thousands and thousands of years, they were very, very learned men. And to their tremendous credit, they devised the greatest written constitution for self governance of men among men that mankind has ever written for one another. For over a century now, though, as I said, the left has had no use for such niceties. They have had no use for the Madisonian notion that ambition must be made to counteract admission. On the contrary, they have only wanted to accumulate power for the sake of power, because again, they think that they are better than us. This goes back to Woodrow Wilson, who was deeply inspired by continental European philosophy, Germanic philosophy above all, and really the philosopher Hegel above all Hegel, whose thoughts seeped its way into nihilism and Friedrich Nietzsche. Ultimately, Hegel's thoughts also gave rise to no small extent frankly, to the rise of Nazism in Germany and all sorts of other utopian schemes that left tens and tens of millions of dead bodies. In their wake is this notion that diffusing power is overrated and accumulating power, that's underrated. That's what we should do because again, we are enlightened, we are elite, we know better. This is how you get the entire notion of the administrative state, which is itself broadly speaking unconstitutional because for the most part at least, Congress cannot delegate legislative powers to the executive branch. Article one, the Constitution makes very clear that legislative powers are delegated to the Congress and to the Congress alone. So they've been at war with America's constitutional structure for a century now. The first transformed progressive president was Woodrow Wilson. The second was fdr. The third was Lyndon Johnson. The fourth was Barack Obama, carried into Barack Obama's third term, otherwise known as the Joe Biden presidency. And now Kamala Harris, who succeeded Joe Biden after the bloodless coup of July 2024. Now Kama Harris is saying yet again that the long century plus long struggle to eviscerate the Constitution continues. And as I said, this is on the ballot. This is without any question what these people are going to run on. If you Vote Democrat in November 2026, you are voting, you are going to pack the Supreme Court to abolish the electoral College and really to gut the entire Constitution. If you vote Democrat for Gavin Newsom or whoever else it will be in 2028. You're voting to abolish the Electoral College, to pass the Supreme Court, and to eviscerate the U.S. constitution. Buyer beware. That is a radical political party. It's not your father's Democratic Party, not your grandfather's Democratic Party. It is a radical anti constitutional vessel and if they have their will, they will burn it all down for the sheer sake of power. If you work in university maintenance, Granger considers you an MVP because your playbook ensures your arena is always ready for tip off. And Grainger is your trusted partner, offering the products you need all in one place, from H VAC and plumbing supplies to lighting and more. And all delivered with plenty of time left on the clock so your team always gets the win. Call 1-800-GRAINGER visit grainger.com or just stop by Grainger for the ones who get it done. Welcome back. So last we checked on the state of MAGA and the power of the Donald Trump endorsement, it was going really, really well. It was not that long ago that in the state of Indiana, which was one of the very red states that rejected Donald Trump's push to heavily redistrict in light of this James Blair orchestrated and shockingly successful mid decade redistricting battle, a battle royale where it looks like the Republican Party is going to come out ahead of by double digit seats, possibly up to as high as 15 depending on how it plays out in the Voting Rights act affected south. But last we checked in Indiana was suffering the consequences and specifically lots of incumbents in the Indiana Senate were suffering consequences of rejecting Donald Trump's push to redistrict. Donald Trump was very, very successful in the recent Indiana primaries. He won at least five of the seven races. The six was really, really close, going to some sort of recount last I checked in. But he was able to knock off most of the people that he challenged. To state the obvious, not knocking off an incumbent is not easy thing to do in American politics. So that's less we checked in. Well, now that we check in, it's still going really well because guess what? Donald Trump is still knocking off incumbents. So there was a Louisiana special this past weekend. By the way, just on a personal aside, I'm actually a huge country music fan and on my car, my car was driving on Sunday. Yesterday morning I was going to synagogue I think and I put on country music radio and I heard Garth Brooks call him Baton Rouge. And I thought wow, this is just really, really, really funny timing because it's coming the night after. And to be clear, I doubt the local country music station DJ here in South Florida knew what he or she was doing. But it was really kind of funny timing because Garth Brooks is calling Baton Rouge and guess who will not be calling Baton Rouge anymore. Well, that's Bill Cassidy. So Bill Cassidy was, was, I guess still is the incumbent U.S. senator from the great state of Louisiana. He had really gone into Donald Trump's crosshairs. At one point in the context of January 6th, he actually voted to convict Donald Trump for impeachment. So that is sufficient in of itself to get the Trumpian MAGA crosshairs on you. Cassidy has also been a major thorn in the side of Maha of the, of the RFK driven attempts to make America healthy again, which has become a very active, passionate grassroots issue, an underdeveloped and underexplored grassroots issue when it comes to the ability to turn out voters this November for Republicans across the country, in my own personal estimation. So Cassidy didn't just finish second, dude, literally finished third in the three way Louisiana Senate primary. So Julia Letlow, who is the Trump endorsed candidate, she is currently a U.S. congresswoman, she got roughly 45% of the vote. John Fleming, who is the state senator there in Louisiana, got 28 plus percent of the vote. Cassidy came in third at around 25%. So because neither Fleming nor Lilo got 50%, there will be a runoff on June 27th. And this is just absolutely hilarious. As a friend put it to me, do you know how unpopular you have to be to not only not finish first but not finish second as an, as an incumbent U.S. senator? It's absolutely extraordinary. Louisiana is not a purple state. Louisiana is a red freaking state. That's why on the show, by the way, we've said that the governor, Jeff Landry, no excuses, dude. No excuses for not drawing a full clean sweep map when it comes to not giving Democrats a single congressional district, trying to carve up New Orleans appropriately there. It looks like they're not going to do that there. That is to their discredit there in the state Capitol in Baton Rouge. But for now, Bill Cassidy is totally out. And actually here it was Bill Cassidy speaking Saturday evening after he finished a dismal third place in the three way primary. Here was Bill Cassidy.
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So it's no shocker based on what you just saw there, that Mitt Romney said that the USN is going to really, really, really bemoan and is going to be in a worse position now that Bill Cassidy will not be serving in what was once known as the world's greatest deliberative body. Personally, I beg to differ. I much rather I much rather a hard charging, bright red U.S. senator. God willing, we get that when it comes to either Julia Ledwell or John Fleming. Again, Julia Ledlow, the incumbent congresswoman, is the Trump endorse of these two candidates. So the big question now that Trump has had a nearly clean sweep in the Indiana state Senate and has successfully gotten Bill Cassidy, one of his arch foes, out of the Senate, at least come next January, he will serve the rest of this year, presumably. The big question now turns to Kentucky. There is a massive, massive primary in Kentucky tomorrow on Tuesday, May 19, and that involves Mr. Thomas Massie. Now, Thomas Massie is a complicated figure. Thomas Massie came up in Congress almost a decade and a half ago now. And when he first started rising through the ranks, he came up very much as a principled libertarian. Now, I am not a libertarian. I am a conservative. I have been decrying libertarianism since college, definitely since law school, for a very, very long time. I think libertarianism is an amateur political philosophy. It is not in touch with human reality. It is not in connection with how human beings actually live, which is not as atomistic individuals, but in communities, families, in tribes. We all have our religious communities and our civic communities, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So I think libertarianism just fundamentally, completely misses there. If you don't have order and virtue, frankly, then your liberty is going to go amok and will devolve into its own form of libertine tyranny. Nonetheless, Massey started as a principal libertarian and at some point, at some point became something much, much worse than that. At this point, Thomas Massie is basically two things. One is he is a gargantuan and gargantuan thorn in the side of Donald Trump. And he's also become the favorite congressman of the Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson crowd, especially now that Marjorie Taylor Greene is out doing whatever the heck she's doing. Go making ice with Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar on the View or cashing paychecks from Code Pink or whatever the heck that she's otherwise doing there now. So now that Marjorie Taylor Greene is out, and good freaking riddance to her, Massey has become the favorite congressman of this particular crowd. In fact, as someone pointed out on X yesterday, I believe it was. You shall know him by his friends, writes Joseph Gelman on X, Thomas Massie received glowing endorsements from Codepink Rokahana, the New York Times, Al Jazeera, Hasan Piker, Mother Jones, AOC, Rashida Talaib Ilhan Omar Summer Lee, the aforementioned Marjorie Taylor Greene, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. You shall know him by his friends. Very much a rule, by the way that I live by. I think that you are judged by your friends and you are also judged by your enemies. He was Lindsey Graham actually he went on Meet the Press just this past Sunday on NBC's Meet the Press, Lindsey Graham was asked about both Bill Cassidy's loss and what to expect from the Kentucky primary. Well, where Thomas Massie definitely might lose tomorrow, here was Lindsey Graham.
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I like Bill, I thought he's a great senator. But he made a political decision. He tried to. He voted to impeach President Trump which would ruined his political life. He could never run for office again. Massey's on the ballot Tuesday. He votes against Trump all the time. What's the headline? Trump Strong. Those who try to destroy Trump politically stand in the way of his agenda are going to lose. Bill made a decision. What would LBJ do? Is it natural for a politician to go after people who try to destroy their their political life? So Bill, Cassie's lost because he tried to destroy Trump. Massey's gonna lose because he's trying to destroy the agenda. You could disagree with President Trump, but if you try to destroy him, you're gonna lose. Cuz this is the party of Donald
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Trump and Donald Trump has come out swinging as Massey in the strongest possible way. So Donald Trump has had countless, really countless truth social posts against Thomas Massey. He had a lengthy post just on Sunday as well. He has explicitly endorsed Ed Galron who is a Navy veteran. Ed Gal Ryan has been in the Oval Office grinning with Donald Trump there. Here's what Donald Trump wrote, quote, third rate Congressman Thomas Massie, a weak and pathetic rhino from the great Commonwealth of Kentucky, a place I love and won big six times including all primaries, must be thrown out of office asap. He is the worst, quote unquote Republican congressman in history. Voting against tax cuts, the wall, law enforcement in favor of the transgender mutilization of our children. Men playing women's sports and so many other horrible things. And wow. I mean Trump has gone all out on this one, folks. He has put a lot of money here. Pro maga super pacs have poured in money into this race there. Pete Hegseth actually in Kentucky's 4th congressional district today. The sitting secretary of war is in the district today to campaign for Ed Gowran. A lot of unprecedented stuff going on there. Is Thomas Massie actually going to lose? Trump has a lot riding on this one. Well, stay tuned. We'll go ahead and make a prediction after a short break, folks. One final break. We'll be right back after this. Welcome back. So is Thomas Massie going to actually lose in Kentucky's 4th congressional district tomorrow? The polling is tight. Ish. Ed Gow Ryan does have a lead in some of the more recent polls in particular as a lot of this big money from Maga groups, from various other pro Israel groups as well as have come out against him. Again, folks, Thomas Massie for a long time was this kind of unicorn. He's a very nerdy guy. I've met him numerous times. He went to mit. He lives in this kind of super solar paneled house that's like it only exists on green energy and solar panels there. The dude is so nerdy he at least used to wear this little US national debt clock thing above his above his coat jacket or at least affixed to it with a literal physical ticking clock where it was counting up every second to make you aware in real time of what the US national debt is. So the dude had some screws loose. He was very quirky, but he wasn't a bad guy. I actually sat next to him at a dinner here in South Florida, he and his now late wife just over three years ago and I enjoyed their company. Again, I have my disagreements with him, I disagree with him on certain policy issues, but I didn't think he was a bad guy. That really has changed. It has notably changed over the past few years around the time that his wife tragically passed away. Perhaps she was the anchor that prevented him from going off the deep end. More recently, Thomas Massie, I've seen him tweet about chemtrails. There he was posing just this past weekend with an overt actual neo Nazi, a guy who is known for praising the Holocaust and Hitler and all the stuff there. The guy was wearing a sweatshirt that said American Reich, as in like the Third Reich. And Massey is just standing there, thumbs up of this guy. So dude has just lost his mind again. It's not just Israel or anything like that there. He's been a massive, massive vote against Donald Trump on essentially everything that Trump pushes. Massie's been a thumbs down vote on basically every possible legislation, whether it's the big beautiful bill or any other thing that Trump's been trying to get across there. Massie has been a consistent thumbs down vote. So Trump has plenty of reasons of plenty. Try to get rid of Thomas Massie. Massie, for what's worth, went on ABC's this Week trying to frame, trying to frame this as just Israel trying to buy congressional seat because obviously he did that. Let's go ahead and watch this clip.
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Well, the rjc, aipac and Miriam Adelson and Paul Singer, they're all part of the Israeli lobby and that's where all the money comes from. And it will be a referendum on foreign policy whether Israel gets to dictate that by, you know, bullying members of Congress. And I'm the one they haven't been able to bully. So they're putting all the brunt and the force on me. But you can tell that I'm ahead in the polls and they're desperate. That's why they're sending the Secretary of War to my district tomorrow. That's why the President's losing sleep and tweeting about this. That's why AIPAC has dumped another $3 million into my race this weekend is because they're panicked and they really haven't been able to gain a lead in this race.
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Yes. Yes, Thomas. Matthew, because no decent American can support close USS relations unless you are part of the nefarious Israel lobby. You see, this is an implicit premise that these people actually believe. They actually believe that no good faith human being can actually think that Israel acts in a way that conduces to a minimum or maximum, outwardly advances the American national interest. That is a disagreement. He's not phrasing like that, but that's disagreement. The Trump wing of maga, like the actual MAGA wing of maga, believes, among other things, that Israel is a very important ally when it comes to America's foreign policy in a particularly troubled part of the world. Above all, when it comes to containing the Iranian regime and its many proxies throughout the region. The other conspiratorial wing, the chemtrails wing, the wing that has been just dripping with obsession with the Epstein files for unclear reasons, because of course, Massie has been making common cause with Rokuhanna and Democrats being one of the leading Epstein files obsessives because God forbid we focus on the issues that really, really, really, truly matter are not heinous crimes that were committed two plus decades ago for which the statute of limitations have expired. No, no, no, no, no. This is all about the juice. And it's not all about the Jews. Because Donald Trump, to say the obvious, is not Jewish. And he has plenty of other reasons for really just hating the way that Thomas Massie votes. Again, the dude has lost his mind. Once upon a time he was a principal libertarian. I didn't like all his policies, but he was principled. Nowadays, he's lost his mind. Will he actually lose? Well, again, it's very hard to say. It's notable that Pete Hegseth is their campaign today. Very, very, very rare to have a sitting member of the Cabinet do such a thing. Some Democrats and critics have said there's a violation of the Hatch act, which is this ridiculous early 20th century statute that says that unless you're the president or the vice president, if you are in the Cabinet, you're not allowed to engage in overtly political activity. The lawyers at the Pentagon ran this. They researched it. They say this is fine because he's going in his own personal capacity. There's no taxpayer funds there. I don't really care, to be honest with you, because the Hash act, in my view, is blatantly unconstitutional. As if you forfeit your First Amendment rights when you go into the government. That's nuts. That's absolutely nuts. So the entire premise of this is constitutionally problematic and therefore I don't really care whether it's a purported violation of an unconstitutional statute. But frankly, I also trust the Pentagon's own in House lawyers a lot more than I trust the critics on the other side. If I had to make a prediction, push comes to shove, I would actually predict that Thomas Massie goes down tomorrow. It's very, very, very hard to judge and to poll these congressional districts. It's a lot easier when you have a broader sample, a statewide race, a governor's race, Senate race, etc. There we will see. But this is an unprecedented amount of money and it's a lot of riding on the line. Not just for Thomas Massie, not just for the crazy caucus, the Candace Tucker cabal. It's also a lot riding on the line for Donald Trump and for MAGA himself. No doubt about that. Trump has invested a lot of eggs in the anti Thomas Massie basket. A lot. And if he comes up short, that's going to be a bad look. It is not going to look good for Donald Trump. So we'll see what happens there. But if I were a betting man, which again, I'm not, but if I were a betting man, I would go ahead and place some sort of wager, some sort of wager on Ed Galran there. And frankly, on a personal level, I'm very much rooting for Ed Gal Ryan to knock off the highly problematic, indeed deeply toxic anti maga gadfly Thomas Massie. So we will return to this topic throughout this week, I presume, because I expect this topic to come back up again, again this week there. But President Trump has returned from Beijing and now the foreign policy focus has shifted over to the Middle east and to Iran yet again because we've been in this very bizarre. Don't call it a war, it's not a war. Don't call it a ceasefire, it's not a ceasefire. This kind of unsustainable, murky middle ground now for over a month. And the latest is that Donald Trump in an interview with Axios, warned Iran and said the clock is ticking. The clock is ticking there because if you don't agree with what we want, then the strikes will recommence. Well, apparently Trump spoke with Bibi Netanyahu on the phone just on Sunday to talk about the possible reprisal of joint US Israel strikes. And tomorrow, apparently on Tuesday, Trump is expected to meet with top national security advisors. He's already met at this happened over the weekend as well. He met at his Virginia golf club with J.D. vance, Marco Rubio, Steve Wyckoff and John Ratcliffe of the CIA to talk about possible actions there. So this is going to come up again again and again. We don't know exactly what's going to happen, but we of course, will continue to track it quite closely. If you listen or watch the show every day, you are aware that our stance here on the show is that while tremendous progress has been made, the job is not done yet because the Strait of Hormuz is still partially blocked and largely closed because Iran is still funding, to an extent, some of its proxies throughout the region because they still have drones and missiles and above all, because their enriched uranium is still there. Therefore, Mr. President, the job is not done. I trust Donald Trump will arrive at that conclusion if he has not done so already. Meanwhile, lots of other amazing action on the anti Islamism front over the weekend. The US Took out the number two global ISIS head honcho over the weekend, Abu Bilal Al Minooki, who was killed in a joint US Nigerian operation in northeastern Nigeria goggling that will have salutary repercussions when it comes to the terribly persecuted and genocided Christians in Nigeria who are literally being killed by ISIS by Boko Haram. It's one of the world's most under discussed tragedies, a genocide of Christians happening in Nigeria. So God willing this strike of the number two dude of ISIS globally will go ahead and help matters there. We will definitely pay attention to that as well. In other anti Islamism news over the weekend, the IDF actually over in Gaza took out is Din Al Haddad who essentially replaced Yahya Sinwar as the head of Hamas's military wing. So that's a huge, huge get. So huge. Two huge scalps. Us taking out the number two head of isis. Israel taking out one of the top heads of Hamas, the leader of their so called military Wang. A massive, massive update there. Also a final update for you, Mohammed Al Saadi who was an Iraqi national who was accused of coordinating nearly 20 terror attacks across all of Europe, mostly targeting American sites, Israeli sites. He's now been brought to face justice by the FBI. So the FBI went ahead and arrested him and he's been transferred back. It's a foreign transfer of custody and FBI jargon. He's been brought back to face charges here in the US There. So amazing stuff happening on the anti Islamism front there. But the big question on that front will be will we see a recommencement of strikes when it comes to Iran? Well, I know what Thomas Massie would say, that's for sure. And at least on that note, I think that's one reason why Thomas Massie will be politically speaking a dead man walking come Wednesday morning. But of course we will find out. Folks, have a great rest of your evening. Josh Hammer signing off. We'll be right back. As always, tomorrow.