The Journey with Morgan DeBaun: Save Our Oceans with Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

Episode Release Date: September 24, 2024

Introduction

In this compelling episode of The Journey with Morgan DeBaun, host Morgan DeBaun welcomes Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, a renowned marine biologist, author, and environmental justice advocate. The conversation delves deep into climate change, particularly focusing on ocean health and the intersection of environmental policies with social justice.

Ayanna Johnson’s Journey and Background

Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson begins by sharing her passion for marine biology, inspired from a young age. Her love for marine life, especially manatees, evolved into a commitment to combat the adverse effects of climate change on oceans. She emphasizes the critical role oceans play in absorbing CO₂ and the detrimental impact of increased acidity on marine ecosystems.

Notable Quote:

"There was a statistic that really knocked my socks off... the number of items of clothes in our closet has gone from like an average of 30 things to like 300." ([04:00])

The Climate Crisis and Ocean Health

The discussion highlights how climate change has transformed ocean chemistry, making it more acidic and threatening marine life. Ayanna underscores the importance of preserving the oceans not just for environmental reasons but also for maintaining biodiversity and supporting human livelihoods.

Practical Actions: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle

Morgan and Ayanna explore actionable steps individuals can take to mitigate climate change. They discuss the significance of recycling, particularly aluminum and paper, and the challenges associated with plastic recycling. Ayanna introduces the "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle" framework, emphasizing reduction and reuse as critical components.

Notable Quote:

"Does this need to exist? Like, are we sure?" - Virgil Abloh ([02:41])

Ayanna further advises on supporting public transit, utilizing tax credits for energy-efficient home upgrades, and investing in climate-friendly financial options.

The Importance of Policy and Think Tanks

Ayanna delves into her role as a co-leader of the Urban Ocean Lab, a policy think tank focused on the future of coastal cities amidst climate change. She explains the necessity of policy frameworks to manage climate-driven relocations and ensure environmental justice. The establishment of the Ocean Justice Forum is highlighted as a pivotal moment, uniting diverse organizations to influence federal ocean policies toward justice and sustainability.

Notable Quote:

"The biggest thing that almost nobody knows about is that where you have your money matters." ([13:27])

Economic Benefits of Green Energy

The conversation shifts to the economic advantages of renewable energy. Ayanna points out that states like Iowa and Texas lead in wind energy not out of environmental zeal but because it makes economic sense, providing profitable and sustainable jobs. She credits the Inflation Reduction Act for significant investments in climate solutions, fostering job creation in renewable sectors.

Current Progress and Policies

Ayanna shares optimistic updates on climate initiatives, including:

• Inflation Reduction Act: Facilitates substantial investments in solar panels, heat pumps, and energy-efficient home upgrades.
• American Climate Corps: An initiative to employ young people in climate solutions, aiming to reduce wildfire risks and restore wetlands.
• Biden-Harris Administration’s Efforts: Significant regulations on energy efficiency and emissions from power plants, signaling a move away from coal dependency.

Notable Quote:

"We need to make sure that Trump doesn't set foot in that White House ever again." ([34:02])

Personal Framework for Climate Action

Ayanna introduces her Climate Action Venn Diagram, a tool to help individuals identify where their skills, the world’s needs, and personal passions intersect. This framework encourages leveraging unique talents to contribute effectively to climate solutions.

Notable Quote:

"Finding your way to the heart of your own Venn diagram is that's the thing. Like, we shouldn't all be doing the same generic list of things." ([21:23])

Economic Incentives and Bipartisan Support

Morgan and Ayanna discuss the potential for bipartisan support for green initiatives, emphasizing job creation and economic security as universal benefits. Ayanna highlights the success of wind energy sectors in traditionally non-environmental states as evidence that economic incentives can drive sustainable practices without partisan divides.

Current Challenges and Political Landscape

The episode addresses the political challenges in advancing climate policies, particularly the setbacks caused by the Trump administration’s rollback of environmental regulations. Ayanna stresses the importance of electing climate-conscious leaders to sustain and expand current initiatives.

Notable Quote:

"The most important thing you could do for climate from now through the election is make sure that Trump doesn't set foot in that White House ever again." ([34:02])

Bright Spots and Areas of Improvement

Despite the daunting challenges, Ayanna highlights several positive developments:

• Wind Energy Growth: Iowa and Texas now lead in wind energy production.
• American Climate Corps: A promising initiative for youth engagement in climate action.
• Regulatory Advances: Enhanced energy efficiency standards and stricter emissions regulations under the Biden-Harris administration.

Notable Quote:

"Data centers in the US consumed about 2.5% of the country's electricity demand in 2022. That's expected to triple to 7.5% by 2030." ([37:30])

How to Get Involved

Ayanna encourages listeners to engage both personally and professionally in climate solutions. She advises:

• Personal Actions: Recycling, supporting local farmers, and utilizing tax credits for sustainable home improvements.
• Professional Influence: Entrepreneurs and employees can advocate for and implement environmentally responsible practices within their workplaces.
• Civic Engagement: Voting for climate-conscious candidates, participating in town hall meetings, and supporting climate-focused organizations like Lead Locally ([30:29]).

Conclusion and Call to Action

The episode concludes with Ayanna urging listeners to discover their unique role in climate solutions and to take actionable steps towards creating a sustainable future. Morgan commits to reevaluating her financial investments to support environmental justice and explores opportunities to collaborate with energy leaders.

Notable Quote:

"Just commit to taking action and I might only get done three out of the four things that I said, but that's better than nothing." ([38:56])

Stay Connected

Listeners are encouraged to:

• Purchase Ayanna’s Book: What If We Get It Right? Visions of Climate Futures – available at GetItRightEarth.com.
• Join the Tour: Attend events in 19 cities to engage with climate solutions directly.
• Explore Resources: Utilize the reading guide and worksheets available on the website to further personal and professional climate action.

Final Thoughts

This episode of The Journey not only sheds light on the intricate relationship between climate change and ocean health but also empowers listeners to take meaningful actions. Through Ayanna Johnson’s insights and practical frameworks, Morgan DeBaun provides a roadmap for individuals and communities to contribute to a sustainable and just future.

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