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Friday Night Live: Charlie Kirk's Untimely Death and The Media | The Joy Reid Show, Sep 12, 2025
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Michael Harriot
Recently we asked some people about sharing.
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Mehdi Hassan
Their New York Times accounts.
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Nancy Mace
My name is Dana, I am a subscriber to the New York Times but my husband isn't and it would be really nice to be able to share a recipe or an article or compete with him in wordle or connections.
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Michael Harriot
Thank you, Dana.
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Joy Reid
We heard you introducing the New York Times Family subscription. One subscription, up to four separate logins for anyone in your life. Find out more@nytimes.com family foreign hey, hey, hey everybody. Happy Friday. TGIF. Welcome to the Joy Reid show. We are, as you can tell, going a little early. We are exactly one hour earlier than we normally would be doing. That is because we have a special guest that we really wanted to get on who has a bit of a time crunch so we wanted to make sure that we got him on. Mehdi Hassan is coming on. I'm very excited to finally get Mehdi on the show from of course Zateo News. He's gonna come on, he's gonna talk with us about all of this stuff that's going on with the Charlie Kirk situation. So if you are a 7:00pm Eastern Standard Time person, don't worry, no worries, no worries, no worries. We're gonna go over so you can always just rewind, you can always check it out. But we wanted to make sure that we got a chance to talk to Mehdi. We're also gonna be talking with Michael Harriot of Contraband Camp. Very important somebody that I'm really looking forward to talking also about all of the madness that's going on because what we've seen in the last 33 some odd plus hours I think has been not the finest hour of the mainstream media. Not their finest hour. And so we wanna make sure that we talk about it so that we can sort of level set just a little bit on what were happening. So and of course what I'm talking about is of course the assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus in Utah. That was some 33 some odd hours ago. The alleged shooter has now been caught. We're going to show his mug shot. Jason's going to throw that up. That is Beezer. There he is, there he is. His name is Tyler Robinson. He's 22 years old. He turned himself in after admitting to his dad, who apparently is in law enforcement, that he is indeed the one who shot Kirk during the campus event. According to reports, he peacefully surrendered to authorities. That's according to the New York Times. After his family convinced him to do the right thing and reached out to a friend of the family and reached out to a youth pastor or something and they convinced him turn himself in. And he did that. So now he's been arrested. Now, I've been asked for my opinion on all of this, given that Charlie Kirk had, in the recent past had some rather unpleasant things to say about moi, namely that Ketanji Brown Jackson, Michelle Obama, and I quote, stole a white person's slave lot at Harvard and that we as black women, quote, lacked the brain processing capacity to be taken even somewhat seriously. That was what he said. And I suppose he felt that Justice Jackson also stole a white person's rightful place on the Supreme Court because of affirmative action, but Clarence Thomas didn't. It's very complicated. But you know what, that doesn't mean that I was rooting for him to die. I mean, I sure as hell don't want to live in a. In a country and in a world where people get killed because they insult people, even if they insult me or say things that I don't like. I mean, a lot of us are out here saying that things, things that people don't like. And a lot of us have felt how ugly this country has become as a result. I mean, the threats are real. They're crazy. We feel them. I feel them. I've gotten them. And this guy was 31 years old that is a year older than Jason and my oldest child. It is terrible, terrible that his parents have to bury their son. No parent should have to bury their son. He was somebody's husband. He was somebody's father. He has two little kids. Just as a human being, let alone as a person of faith, I cannot not feel awful. I have to feel awful about this happening. I mean, if we're supposed to be a civilized society, we're supposed to have gotten beyond lynching, but apparently not. After all, lynching is an American tradition, as is gun violence. The United States happens to be the most violent country in the world that's not engaged currently in a war. Just pull up that stat there. 357 mass shootings just in 2025 alone. 357 mass shootings. 6,889 mass shootings since 2013. Since January 2013. How many days since the mass shooting? One. One. I mean, I personally feel gutted that that one additional mass shooting just in the last day was a shooting in Colorado. It happened the exact same day, which was the anniversary of 9 11. And the shooter, a teenager, apparently had some extreme views that he posted online. We're going to show you a picture of him. Young white teenager who took his own life after shooting up his school. There he is. That's the mass shooter. So you've seen the mass shooter in Utah. You've seen the mass shooter here. And apparently he went to Evergreen High School in Colorado, which I actually have heard of. I remember Evergreen High School. Apparently he held some very extreme views, shot at other students, and then took his own life. So another mass shooting, literally same day as the Charlie Kirk shooting did not get the same attention. The mainstream media didn't tell you all about that, but both of those two shootings happened on the same day. Would also really love to know why when a white shooter shot a white conservative right winger and what that had to do with black people and why the right did this weird reflex that they always do of calling in bomb threats to HBCUs. Really MAGA. So a white shooter kills a white conservative and HBCUs get the bomb threats. Why? I'm really not sure why that is, but they did multiple HBCUs facing bomb threats yesterday after the shooting of Charlie Kirk. And I have no idea what that has to do with HBCUs. You also saw the Naval Academy have to go in lockdown. Bomb threats there. There we go. Hampton University received notice. Virginia State University, Bethune, Cookman University, Southern University, and Alabama State University, all of them went on lockdown after receiving bomb threats following the assassination in Utah of Charlie Kirk. What that had to do with black people in black colleges, I couldn't tell you. But it also is the most American thing in the world that that is what happened. And I also have to tell you guys that I also frankly object to the way that this whole tragedy is being covered by my profession, by the mainstream media. Well, my old profession at this point, mainstream media, because based on the coverage that many of you have seen, you would think that this guy was just some ordinary conservative thinker and activist who loved to debate college kids and invite real dialogue. Real dialogue. And you'd be hard pressed to actually know much more about him other than that he was a young firebrand and a Christian family man with the wife and children. The media has decided that you are not mature enough to be horrified that this man was murdered in cold blood in front of thousands of college kids and to know what it is that made him a polarizing figure in the first place. The mainstream media apparently believes that you are not mature enough to understand that you're not allowed to know that Charlie Kirk said the Civil Rights act of 64 was a mistake. Because it spawned a generation of unfair fixes like affirmative action and dei. That he said that Jews have been funding anti white policies and that he agreed on that with white South African Elon Musk and seemed to agree that immigration is a setup for white replacement. You're apparently not mature enough to feel horrified by his murder and also know that he said those things. That he said that because of the existence of DEI that if he saw a black airline pilot he would automatically question their qualifications, wonder whether they were qualified to fly. You're not allowed to know that. He mocked the late Sheila Jackson Lee, even used a fake black scent to make fun of her. Then he mocked the Juneteenth holiday and said MLK was a bad person who did not deserve a holiday. He mocked George Floyd's death. He said he believed that empathy is a terrible made up concept. He basically said women should give up any actual ambitions besides getting married and having lots of kids. He put down Muslims. He put down trans people. He said Mehdi Hassan, who's coming on the show in a short time, should be deported over a column that he didn't like. He said that blacks were better off during the 1940s, during segregation. He refused to accept that trans people even exist. And his organization, Turning Point USA created a watch list to track the thoughts and statements of professors who he disagreed with. He also said mass shootings are a reasonable price to pay for us to have the second Amendment, all of that in the name of Christianity. And it is reasonable to get angry about those things and to use a Charlie Kirkism to vigorously prove him wrong. But killing, I mean, damn, that's too much. But that said, apparently you getting to know the things that I just said is also too much. It's too divisive. The people who run the media now are also just assuming that everybody actually knows who Charlie Kirk even was. I mean, media people clearly did, young conservatives clearly did, podcast people clearly did. And many in the media clearly admired him and probably agreed with him on a lot of stuff. A especially the anti DEI stuff that a lot of them are pushing and that Trump is mandating. Which is why the new bosses are very clearly steering the media to the right and saying that nothing, nothing can be said about Charlie Kirk other than that he was a great, wonderful young family man. Nothing else, nothing else can be said at my old haunt, NBCUniversal @MS. Now contributor Matt Dowd, who by the way, is a conservative. He's a conservative from the old school. He got fired yesterday. He got fired for comments that he made during live coverage of the shooting. Now, a lot of people aren't going to replay what he said, but I just want you to get to hear for yourself what he said. Here is Matt doubt, and Jason's gonna pull it up. It is 8, 13. I'm gonna give him a second to grab it. But following up with what was just said, he's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. So that was Newsbusters who put that up, because NewsBusters is there to, like, police the speech of the left. Matt Dowd is not of the left. And yet MSNBC put out a statement denouncing Matt before they fired him, with network president Rebecca Cutler calling his comments inappropriate, insensitive, and unacceptable, and apologizing on his behalf, also making him apologize. And she added in her statement that there's no place for violence in America, political or otherwise, which everyone agrees with. And I think Matt Dowd clearly agrees with that. I mean, did you hear Matt Dowd call for violence, political or otherwise? I did not. He was literally just talking about Charlie Kirk's own rhetoric. And now I also want to just let you hear Charlie Kirk in his own words, because, again, I'm not presuming that you all know who Charlie Kirk was or that you knew of it before yesterday or before, you know, the other day. So just so that you can hear it for yourself, which you can find on social media easily, but not so much on mainstream media. Let me play a little bit of Charlie Kirk in his own words lit.
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Charlie Kirk
I'm gonna be like, boy, I hope he's qualified. The Civil Rights act was a mistake. More cops should be around your neighborhood. Why do blacks have a broken family? White person were to come up and say, you know, black America really needs to get its act together and stop sleeping around all the time and needs to actually have enough, why would you. Because it's true. What percentage of young blacks have both a mom and a dad raising them? Of course we panned the blacks. They're in every TV commercial. And they're saying, I'm only here because of affirmative action. Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. If I'm dealing with somebody in customer service who's a moronic black woman, I don't. I wonder, is she there because of her. Her excellence or is she there because affirmative action things got worse since the Civil Rights Act. More violent, less fathers around, poorer. Be kissing the ground with gratitude because you're right, you are not in Africa and you should be thankful you're not in Africa. Certain skin color now gets their own summertime celebration. It's now become a racial complaining day. Blm. And remember what BLM stands for. Burn, loot and murder. America is poorer today than before we tried to start to help them. Black women married the government.
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Joy Reid
All right. Joining me now is Mehdi Hassan, my friend from Zateo News, which you all should be subscribing to. Mehdi, thank you so much for being here. I just want to get your thoughts on the way the media has handled this situation.
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Mehdi Hassan
Horribly badly in so many ways. But of course, the main way is the way you just very eloquently explained in your monologue, which is the idea that we should not be told who Charlie Kirk is or what he said and stood for because he was brutally murdered. Right. You can be brutally murdered and be an innocent victim of a murder, but also have very horrible views. I was thinking about this for the last couple of years, trying to think of an analogy. It's not the best. It's the only one I can come up with. Maybe you can come up with a better one. Joy, if Louis Farrakhan was killed, assassinated, how would we cover his death? Would we say he was a wonderful man of faith because he's a man of faith, whether you like him or not? Would we say he was a great family man because he's a family man, whether you like it or not? Or would we say he expressed very horrific views about Jews and other minorities over the years as well as white people? Like, what would the mainstream. I think we, the mainstream media, what would they say? We all know what they say, and it's perfectly legitimate thing to do in public. There's something that annoys me in general. Nothing to do with Charlie Kerr. When public figures die, you can't just go, don't speak ill of the dead. No, they're public figures. When I die, I expect people to go through my record and say, he said good things, bad things. He did good things, bad things. I liked him for this. I didn't like him for that. That's what obits are for. That's what profile pieces are for. This is not. Obviously we. Obviously, we don't want to make. Obviously, his family are off limits. Obviously, we want to give condolences. What his wife and kids must be going through are horrific. I can't imagine what it's like for two children to lose their father and to have their father murdered on camera for the rest of their lives.
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Michael Harriot
Horrific.
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Mehdi Hassan
Horrific. And I hope they punish severely whoever did it. But the idea that therefore means we can't say anything about Charlie Kirk's views. Charlie Kirk was proud of his views. He went around the country, eventually died expressing his views.
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Joy Reid
Right.
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Mehdi Hassan
They're calling him a free speech martyr. So why can't we talk about his speech? That's insane. I just find this so odd. It happens all the time. Like a president or a congressman or someone who don't. No, they were public figures. They have a public record and we should be able. Otherwise it's just hagiography. It's not journalism.
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Joy Reid
And the other piece of it is that the thing that is not being reported is at the same time that this was happening, black HBCUs were getting death threats and the media was doing this. Both sides, you know, both sides have lots of violence. I don't think that those HBCUs were being threatened by the left. We can just go back through all of the recent mass shootings. It's the right. It's the right. It's the right. You had a member of Congress, Nancy Macea. Well, this person was probably trans. Start blaming trans people. No, it was a white male, just like lots and lots of students. We couldn't even say that.
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Mehdi Hassan
Nancy Mace will apologize immediately. I'm confident that she'll put out a strong public any minute now. As will Laura, Louis and the rest. Look, I can't. I haven't had the energy Friday evening to get back into that debate that we've been having 48 hours. I was on the BBC yesterday. This bullshit that the right have pushed. Now all the political violence comes from the left. Don Jr said today, if you think it's a vote scientist, you shouldn't be allowed on TV in America. The stats are very clear. ADL is not a group. I'm a fan of center for Extremism at the adl. Crunch the numbers.
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Michael Harriot
Every.
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Mehdi Hassan
Every single extremist related murder between 2022 and 2024, three years straight was carried out by right wing actors, zero by left wing actors. In fact, this summer we saw a lawmaker in Minnesota speaking of merit of the Minnesota House, killed with her husband. Another two people were shot. And on lawmakers like we could keep going. You and I could come up with examples all night long. I've got a memory long enough to remember 2018 when Cesar Seoc Trump supporter, sent pipe bombs to Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton to the very top of the Democratic Party trying to kill them. Drove around with a truck covered in Trump photos and Fox images. So look, I just. That debate, unfortunately, they're in their little bubble. They actually do believe. I think a lot of people do believe. It's just the left. Some of them are grifters. Some of them have brainwashed themselves into believing this year. But to come back. But you know, we can't do anything about them, George. We can do talk about the liberal media where you and I used to work. Places like msnbc, New York Times, horrific coverage. I mean, Ezra Klein writing a piece. Ezra I know. Well, I'm friendly with Ezra. But that piece that a lot of people have called him out for this piece saying that he debated in the right way. He employed persuasion. Charlie Kirk, as you mentioned, when I did a Covid monologue on MSNBC in 2023, I think it was his response was to do his own monologue saying, who is this guy? He should be. Get him out of here. He should get rid of his visa. I'm a US Citizen. Get him out of the country. That's free speech. Your response to me saying I want to defend COVID lockdown? I thought the answer is better speech. Why didn't he come back with data on why COVID lockdowns are bad? No, he said get me out of the country right now. Across social media, conservatives are saying that any teacher who said anything about cop we don't like should be fired in Florida. Any soldier should be investigated in the uk. Joy, forget the US in the uk Conservative. The former Conservative prime minister is saying that a student at Oxford who celebrated, apparently celebrated Charlie Kirk himself. I have no idea if that's true or not, should be expelled from Oxford University. Should be thrown out of the university because of a joke about Charlie Kerr. I thought, what happened to Jisri Charlie? What happened to the right to offend? I'm Muslim. I was told for years the west is all about free speech. You got to be. You got to. You got to allow people to make you fun of your prophet. That's all about. That's what free speech is all about, being offensive. Except when offensive to someone you don't know. I personally don't think you should make jokes about deaf people. But if other people do, the First Amendment protects them. That's what I was told. So the hypocrisy and our media coverage, Comcast Owns NBC. I don't even know if it still owns msnbc. I don't know what the status is.
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Joy Reid
Ms. Now. Ms. Now. We're calling it Ms. Now, but Comcast.
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Mehdi Hassan
Brian Roberts, the chairman of Comcast, who is a Democratic Party donor, I believe, sent out an email to all the staff. 404 million email. In which he. In which I just want to read to your viewers.
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Joy Reid
We have it up. We're going to put it up while you read it. Please read it. Yes, we have it.
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Mehdi Hassan
This is the key line he calls Charlie Kirk, an advocate for open debate whose faith was important to him. Let's just be clear. Charlie Kirk said that I shouldn't be deported and that you don't have the brain processing power. Joy to have your job. We were both MSNBC hosts when he made those comments. Interesting that Comcast is eulogizing a person who was not interested in an open debate with you and I but wanted me deported and you racially abused. So this is absurd. Again, let me add the.
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Joy Reid
Let me add it.
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Mehdi Hassan
I have to say this because I ended up on Sean Hannity's show last night. Clip of me. And so now I have to do this after every answer. Of course, nobody should be killed for their horrific views. Charlie Kirk's murder was brutal, horrific, inexcusable. Our hearts are saddened for his family. Genuinely. I can't imagine what it's like for two kids. By the way, those of us who care about the people of Gaza. And Charlie didn't give a damn about the people of Gaza. He said, there's no such place as Palestine. Our hearts bleed for the children of Gaza who are being orphaned all the time. So, yes, I'm very, very, very, very, very proud to say that I'm a human being who cares about Charlie Kirk's kids, innocent kids who've lost their dad. And I also care about Palestinian kids who've lost their parents. The difference is some conservatives only care about one group of kids. I like to care about all kids who've lost their parents, who are all innocent. And you went through his views. I'm so glad you didn't zoom in. We just put out 17 quotes from Charlie Koh. We didn't add any commentary, we didn't add any intro. We just said, here he is in his own words. And somebody on Twitter said, oh, you didn't provide any content. I went, okay, so if we add any words, you'll say, I'm spinning it, I'm editorializing. If we just give you his words, you say, oh, there's no context. Hence, I win tells you this.
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Michael Harriot
It's his words.
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Mehdi Hassan
He was proud of his words. And that's how we should remember him, by his words.
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Joy Reid
It is what he wanted to be. It's what he put out. It's what he wanted. I am running out of time with you. If you have one minute and you're very good at doing one minute.
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Mehdi Hassan
Now I've got five minutes, Joy.
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Joy Reid
Five minutes. Oh, good. Okay, good. Now I'm gonna take full advantage of it because at the same time that this is happening, we're seeing the mainstream media fully taken over by the right. They're either cosplaying that they're over by the right, they're gonna appease the right, or they're just letting it go. I wanna talk about CBS News, the Tiffany network, the Edward R. Murrow network, the network that gave us some of the greatest journalism of our lifetimes is now going to. The newsroom is gonna be run by Bari Weiss. Tell us who she is. And I want to presume that my audience all knows who she is. But if Walter Cronkite were alive today and working for CBS News, he'd be reporting to her. Who is she?
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Mehdi Hassan
I said five minutes, not five hours. Joy. Barry Weiss is the editor and founder of the Free Press, which is a anti woke center, right? Very pro Israel substat newsletter media company. It's done very well for itself since Elon Musk gave her part of the Twitter files to give her a little boost with her new endeavor. She needed a new endeavor because she very loudly quit the New York Times claiming it was too woke and she was being censored and all these kids were running the New York Times into the ground. A lot of billionaires like Barry Wise and one of them is a guy called David Ellison, son of Larry Ellison, second richest man in America. Our Oracle boss, Donald Trump, donut guy who was at election tonight and involved in some of the discussions about Donald Trump's plan to stay in office in 2020. That's who David Us and Super Pro Israel guy, David Owens, super super pro Israel. And of course he is buying the Free press apparently for 200 million. 150 million notes, completely overpriced. And he's buying CBS News and he wants to put Barry Weiss with CBS News even though he told the entire I'm buying CBS News to un politicize it. There will be no politicizing of the news. Well, Barry Weiss is very political. But it's not just Barry Weiss. A guy called Kenneth Weinstein, who's a president of the Hudson Institute, he's a Trump donor. Trump nominated to be an ambassador in the first term. He's going to be the ombudsman for CBS News. Just for people who don't know, the ombudsman is the person who checks everything's going well, make sure the readers are happy, checks that editorial standards are being followed, facts and figures are being put on screen. It's going to be a Trump apparatus doing that for CBS right now. And it's so funny. Join. Whether it's Big Tech, whether it's the mainstream media, every accusation is a confession. All the things they thought liberals were doing but weren't, they're doing now they're in power. They thought that Jack Dorsey was some crazy leftist supporting the Democratic Party. Then we've got Elon Musk who literally used Twitter as a vehicle for the Republican Party. They thought that liberal media is just some Democratic mouthpiece. But you and I both know that NBC News could never get away with making the Ombudsman a Joe Biden donor with no experience in media. But they're doing it now in reverse. So every accusation is a confession with the right. And it's very worrying. What's happening with variant wise. I mean, already CBS News and every other mainstream media outlet is super pro Israel. Do we really need it to become even more pro Israel? There's not enough pro Israel opinion in American news. And she has no experience. I mean, I feel bad for some of the senior CBS executives who spent decades in the industry, won all sorts of awards for 60 minutes. It's. Although half the 60 minutes top team already quit in protest. Now they're gonna have to answer to Barry Weiss.
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Joy Reid
It is a strange world in which we're living and sort of the claim is that they wanna sort of take the audience younger, but they're assuming all of the younger audience is far right wing. And so that is who they need to appease. They forget that there was a whole other audience out there that is actually a majoritarian audience that is sympathetic to the Palestinians. First time in my lifetime that that's been the case. But it is the case. This whole audience is being left to the side. And to your point, I mean, Zatteo News is a great. The success of Zatteo News actually is huge proof of it. But so then what do you think happens if the mainstream media is all gonna take the knee not just to Trump, but to. But to Bibi Netanyahu, to be blunt. And that's what's gonna be on mainstream media. What is the business case for that? I mean, I don't understand.
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Mehdi Hassan
Mr. Joy, that's a very question, Joy. There is no business case for it. This is purely ideological. First person so Wall Street Journal this week reports that Ellison, David Ellison and his dad are now planning to buy Warner Brothers. Therefore, they will have control of CNN if that deal goes through. So they want to have CNN and CBS News. The first person to text me that story was Zotero contributor Jason Stanley, who you know very well, left Yale, moved to Canada, expert on fascism. And the reason he texted me because he knew I would understand immediately the fascism reference here, which is go to India. Modi's billionaire friends bought out all of the TV industry. There is no longer anything other than pro Modi news in India. Go to Hungary. Orban's rich friends bought out the media. It is all pro. Orban go to Turkey. Erdogan's rich friends bought out all the TV news channels. It's very hard to go against Erdogan on TV news. This is the playbook. There is this authoritarian global playbook, and this is what's happening with Donald Trump. You don't need tanks or gangs of rioters. You have your rich friends simply buy up everything. And then there is no, it's not a business case. CNN, I mean, Free Press is not worth $150 million. No serious person thinks that. It makes $15 million of revenue a year. Right? There's no scenario it's worth 10 times its annual revenue. The reason he's paying that money is to say it's not about business. It is about ideology. It is about making sure that people are saying the right thing. That the billionaires and Netanyahu and Trump want to hear that they get rewarded. And it is about making sure that there is no dissent within our media as we go down this fascistic path further and further.
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Joy Reid
And there you have it. Mehdi Hassan, thank you very much. I'm so glad that you're there. Zateo News is where you can find Mehdi, and I highly suggest that you subscribe to it. There's not gonna be much left out here other than independent media. If you wanna get the truth and the facts, you will not get much of that from mainstream media, I'm sad to say. I really did love working at msnbc, but none of this is gonna be the same. It's all gonna change and not in the direction of, of progressives. Thank you very much, Betty. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for making the Time. Well, there you have it. We're now going to have. Apparently David Ellison also owns CNN and Warner, which means they would also control the movies, the films, everything else, everything that comes across, whether it's the movie screen or the TV screen, will all be pro Trump, pro right wing, pro conservative, anti dei, I guess you could say anti black, anti trans, anti gay. So there you go. They're going to own it all. Well, there we have it. Let's see if we have our next guest. I'm really looking forward to talking with Michael Harriot. Michael's not here yet. Okay, we're gonna wait for him to come on. And while we wait for him, I wanna read to you guys a couple of other things. Because the other piece that we're not. What is not happening is that we're not getting to understand exactly who it is that is in charge of us now. Because Charlie Kirk didn't just come out of nowhere. He actually came out of a. Of an ecosystem of very, very, very rich men. And David Ellison is one very, very rich man who controls now Paramount and cbs and maybe according to what we just heard from Mehdihas and will soon control Warner Brothers and cnn. But there are others. He is not alone. There is a small group of billionaires who slowly but surely or actually rapidly are coming to control all of the mainstream media. But they already had a foothold in new media before many of you even heard of some of these people. I wanna talk with you about a couple of these new media entities. The first is the Daily Wire. I'm gonna read this story. One of this. The first piece I'm gonna tell you is in your post. I don't have this to. But I will put these links in the substack enjoyunread.com, which is called Joy's House. I will put all this in there so you guys can see it in the substack. But I'm just going to read it to you right now, so forgive me while I read. The Daily Wire was founded in 2015. The Daily Wire by then 31 year old Breitbart editor, syndicated radio host, Harvard trained lawyer and right wing columnist Ben Shapiro. You've heard of Ben Shapiro whose parents are a Hollywood executive and a composer and a gentleman named Jeremy Boreing who's a veteran of the late Andrew Breitbart's right wing Hollywood searched website which is called Big Hollywood. He formed this website to try to create an alternate to Hollywood whose initial funding came from a billionaire named Farris Wilkes F A R, R, I S Wilkes. Who is Ferris Wilkes? Let me explain to you who he is. Wait, hold on a second. The Daily Wire. Let me read a little bit more. I wrote these notes early. I'm gonna read them to you. The Daily Wire is a right wing media company. Their goal seems to be to achieve Breitbart's dream of replacing traditional Hollywood and the film and TV industry with a right wing version without all of the inclusive casting and storylines and take it back to a traditional white version of Hollywood from the pre 1960s. To be clear, they've been very successful at finding a large audience for this and that audience was very attracted to Ben Shapiro's brand. It was announced last March that Borrowing was stepping down from the company. And when Axios reported on that, they reported the following. Jerry Jeremy Bore, co founder of the Daily Wire is stepping down from his role as co CEO to focus on creative projects for the company. He told staff in a memo obtained by Axios, why it matters. Boreing had been with the Daily Wire since its inception in 2015. This is during the end of the Obama era. He helped grow the outlet from a tiny new startup with $4.7 million in seed funding to a media giant valued at more than $1 billion last year. So this guy comes along, he's a young lawyer, he's a trained lawyer, he comes along, he gets $4.7 million in funding. And most of that funding came from this man, Ferris Wilkes. And here's what the Guardian says about Ferris Wilkes. Two billionaire Texas brothers whose fortunes derive from oil and gas fracking have pumped millions of dollars into right wing media outlets that have promoted climate crisis denialism and sent more big checks to back an array of evangelical projects and conservative Texas politicians. I'm going to halt right there. I'm going to come back to this because I really want to get into who is funding these outlets, including Charlie Cook's outlet. But I do believe Michael Harriot is here. So let's go ahead and bring him in. Michael Harriot, who is one of the best journalists in the country. Black AF History is his book that is back, I think on the New York Times bestseller list for like the 475th time. Contraband camp is his Substack. Zateo is housed on Substack. Contraband Camp is on Substack. Joy's house also on Substack. So Substack's got a lot of goods. But this man, who is one of the best historians in the modern world, I don't say that because he's my friend, but he's also my friend. Michael, thanks for being here.
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Michael Harriot
Thank you for having me.
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Joy Reid
So we were talking. We're gonna go back to the conversation we were having before. I was about to veer off into this stuff about some of these other outlets like the Daily Wire. But I wanna go back to the Charlie Kirk of it because the first thing that, that I noticed when this horrible murder happened, and I mean it is horrific. And we're again, we have to say for the 470th time, it's awful and people should not be murdered for views that we don't like. Not long after that, there was another school shoot. There was a school shooting in which three people were shot. And then the gunman took his own life, a teenage shooter. And then not long after that, we saw HBCUs catching strays. Like HBCUs were then getting death threats. I'm like, what did, what did black folk have to do with it? What did you make of all of that?
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Michael Harriot
Yeah, I felt the same way. You know, I didn't say much about Charlie Kirk because, you know, we've had some run ins while he was alive and I think I've said what I have to say about Charlie Kirk when he was among the living. So I didn't feel the need to say anything about his death because, you know, during my time as a journalist, I have, you know, written a lot about gun control. And at a certain point you start to realize, oh, it's not going to do anything. Pointing out the statistics, pointing out the tragic deaths of children, whether it's Sandy Hook or Parkland, it's not going to do anything. And then you get to that same point with these right wing extremism, right, like what they say about black people. I remember, you know, many of the things that he's, people are pointing out that he said, he specifically said about you, right? And you get to a point where you realize, oh, these people just have hearts filled with hate. And it's useless to point out the lack of logic or the stupidity or the hate or the ignorance in what they say. And so when this, you know, when the thing happened with Charlie Punk, you wonder, well, should I say something about guns? And you know, that's useless, right? You shouldn't say something about, you know, the racist things that he said. Well, you know, that's useless. And so I came to the conclusion, like I stay out of white folks business when it comes to, you know, stuff. It was, you know, as we've seen it was a white suitor killing a white guy over, you know, we feel bad when anyone is shot, like generally progressive black people, left leaning people. What we're saying is don't kill people. That's why we're, we're sounding good, like don't hate people. That's why we're against the hate speech. Right. So no one is saying now it's time to hate Charlie or thank God someone killed Charlie. Every we think, like I personally feel like every death is a tragedy. Murder is bad, death is bad. And what we saw was that because of the proliferation of guns and hate and this political vitriol, we can't escape it. And it converged and it wasn't a kid at Sandy Hook that day and it wasn't someone at Parkland. It wasn't a school shooter that day. When you have 108 people killed every day, some of those days it's going to be a person who you know and who you've seen before.
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Joy Reid
And the reality is, I mean this was an open campus. People were allowed to carry on that campus. So if that young man who has been arrested walked onto that campus with an AR15 strapped over his shoulder, there's not much that the authorities could really do about it. In one case, and this is somebody I actually like, Peter Schorch, who runs a, a Florida political blog, fired a reporter that was on his staff because the reporter reached out to a member of Congress to ask him, hey, do you still support campus open carry in the wake of Charlie Kirk being murdered? That seems to be a pretty logical question. But that was deemed to be too much. So wait, you can't ask a member of Congress, a Republican who has been advocating for open carry on Florida campuses. Florida of course, having a lot of gun violence and gun deaths. Oh, okay. And that's where Parkland, the Parkland shooting happened. Asking a member of Congress who votes on these things whether he supports open carry is a firing offense. Now Matt Dowd saying, this guy said a lot of hateful things. I mean, I just played a little while ago some of the things he said. If you are a recipient of it, if you're black Muslim, if you're trans, if you're Mehdi Hassan for sure, who he said should be deported, if you're me or Michelle Obama or Ketanji Brown Jackson, who said we don't have the candle wattage, the brain capacity, brain power to, to be taken serious. I mean like people can be offended and think that might be hateful. Just playing it is now A firing offense. I wonder how that even works. Because if we're saying that you can't say anything about anyone as long as they were killed, you know, Mehdi Hasan made a really great point. If this were Louis Farrakhan, they'd say.
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Michael Harriot
All the things, right? I think. And if it was Louis Farrakhan or anyone, they at least contextualize. I mean, remember, right, they said the stuff about Kobe and his rape case when he died, right. Remember how the contextual, you contextualize someone's life in death, right? And. But the thing that makes me wonder is like, does doing good or does it, you know, do you have to refrain from being hateful and a bad person if you're going to be good in death anyway? Is there anything that you can do specifically to black people? Because it's not just the right. Right. It is the people who, like Angela Clyde, who I admire, I respect. But when you can say that someone who specifically targeted black people did politics the right way, what are you saying about the value of black people? What do you say about the hate and the humanity that you have for black people? If he did the stuff in totality.
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Joy Reid
The right way, and the reality is, you know, this is somebody who, you know, he did. He actually left college. He was at junior, he was in junior college. He dropped out of junior college in order to create turning points USA because an 80 year old, you know, very wealthy man came along and said, here's a lot of money. We want you to advocate free market conservatism. He did that and he ended up forming Turning Points usa. It's a hell of a, a of a feat for an 18 year old to get, you know, millions and millions of dollars invested in him because he saw that he was conservative, he wanted to do it. That's fine. His whole thing was arguing with college students. So he would go from campus to campus saying, prove me wrong. And, and I think that's perfectly legitimate to do if you want to make your, your, you know, and he had a podcast doing that where you would debate people. I think that's perfectly fine. You know, if that's all Ezra Klein meant, then fine, we can agree that people should debate. But I'm not sure that it is a, a free debate, a fair debate that you and I are gonna have a debate on whether black people have the mental capacity to be a pilot, that if you are black, I will question your capacity to fly a plane. Now, presumably if you're sitting in the cockpit, you had to have the flight hours, the Training. I don't think United Airlines or Delta Airlines is gonna just let. I think he named them. Like he made up some random names of black people and said, well, you know, Bobo and Ray Ray are just sitting in the plate in the cockpit. I highly doubt that the insurance carrier that was covering United Airlines or American Airlines or Delta Airlines would just let Ray Ray sit in the cockpit because he's black. So that's not a genuine argument. Right. We're not debating whether Pookie and Ray Ray can just come sit in the cockpit. And being black is the only qualification. You have to have thousands of flight hours to be a pilot. You have to go through. And the fact that there are so few black pilots means it's even harder for black folks to. I know a young man who wants to be a pilot. The barriers to black people being pilots, where they would have to go to school, where can they get flight training. It is much harder for a black. If I see a black pilot, I think that must be the baddest pilot in the world because he went through 8,000 hoops that a white pilot did not. That's how I feel.
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Michael Harriot
Yeah. And there's an important part that we need to say about this whole narrative of this open debate that Charlie Kirk like to have, and that it is. It wasn't debate, right? I mean, in debate there's a moderator and there's a level of truth and fact checking, and then one side presents their side and the other side presents their side. That's not what he did. What he did is propagandize to young people who one, knew less and two, who could never, would never ever, not me, not you, not scholars, would never ever, no matter how much facts they had, would ever be able to convince Charlie Kirk's audience. Because that who was watching him, right? He wasn't doing it in front of a bunch of people and then they were going to sign up and vote Republican. Right. He was doing it for his audience to sell content. Right. And those people, no matter how many facts, back to what we said earlier, you present to them, it's not. Charlie was always going to red win. And he bamboozled everybody else into saying it's a debate, he'll go anywhere and talk to anybody. Because when he. And it's a neat trick because like when you talk about Zetteya, right? I read Hassan's book, right. And one of the things he talks about in his book, you know, how to win any argument, is the tricks that people use in arguments. And one of those Tricks is to dismiss if they're right, if they're correct, if they're factually correct. You can dismiss it by saying, some people say that's what they want you to believe. That's the totality of the trick that Charlie Kirk trafficked in. Right? That's what they want you to believe. That's what the left wants you to believe. That's what this thing wants you to. I don't believe in the word empathy because that's what they want you to. They want you to feel stuff. Right? And then he could dismiss an effect. So it wasn't debate. So this idea that this dude was playing politics, right, is like almost the opposite of what it is true. Because what he was doing is propagandizing and spreading the idea to the world that the facts don't matter. Right. If they show you definitive proof, you can say, I don't feel that way. That's what they want you to believe. And that's partly why politics is in the place that it is now. So that narrative and the whitewashing of his legacy and all the, and all of doing all of that at the expense of black people's humanity, I agree with that.
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Joy Reid
And I mean, the reality too is that I think because Donald Trump took such immediate advantage of it and not everybody actually played, I'm gonna play a little bit later what Donald Trump actually said. Afterwards, he did a four minute dialogue diatribe in the White House in which he made a lot of threats. And he's following those threats with essentially saying because this happened to a white young man that he admired shot by a white person, he's now going to double down on invading black run cities. So the ipso facto is, because this shooting happens in Utah where there's hardly any black people. Now I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna invade Memphis. It's gonna be even harder on Baltimore, we're really gonna get. But the place where conservatives turned out not to be safe was in Utah. This didn't happen in Memphis or Baltimore or Washington D.C. or, or Chicago, which Trump is now saying, it's Chi Raq. I'm gonna invade it. I'm gonna put the military in there. He's making black cities sound like hellscapes. And yet their own prince, the person they are giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to, the person that they flew his body on, Air Force Two. Quite an honor, his wife, God bless his wife being able to get that honor for herself and her children. But they're treating him like he's mlk. He is. A lot of people on the right are saying this is their mlk. Okay? You have a right to say that. If that is who you believe is your mlk, you can have whatever MLK you want. But one of the things that people are now doing is trying to also say that this is proof that, number one, the left is violent. And Charlie Kirk would do things like saying, well, 50, you know, he'd throw out fake numbers. Well, 50% of murders are black people. That's not even true. But once he says it to a college kid who can't look it up in that moment, they're like, wow, 50% of the murders are black people. How would you even know? Well, you, my friend, are much better at doing the statistics thing. Cause you actually write them down and look them up. You guys did a really great piece, piece in Contraband Camp, and I wanna put up a few slides from it in which you went after this notion that the violence is the left, that it's the left that does the violence, and that it's, I guess, apparently what Charlie Kirk and others wanted to believe is black people that do the violence. So I'm gonna put up these slides and I would love for you to walk me through them. And this is C1. Jason's gonna. I'm gonna let Jason get time to pull them up. The title of this is are leftists coming for you? Here's what the data says about political violence, and it's specifically referencing the Charlie Kirk situation. So let's go to C2. And this is the number of hate crimes by year. Talk about this a little bit. Why did you guys decide to do this? You did 10 years. You started 2015 through 20, 20, 25. What does it say to you that the big bump in the middle and the big jump in hate crimes was during, it looks like, during Biden. Trump. Trump, Biden.
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Michael Harriot
Well, what we saw is, you know, we only looked at 10 years. We only talked about 10 years into peace. But we also actually looked at a longer trajectory. And what we saw was that hate crimes and we also looked at political violence, acts of political violence, it just tripled as soon as Trump entered politics. Right. Hate crimes are a result of political violence. So those are two separate things. But what it tells us is that, you know, as you look at this chart, the FBI, this is not me. This is not me making a determination. This is just me plying graphic to FBI data. And what they said is, since 2016, we saw, seen a drastic rise in hate crime. But the interesting thing about this is that the hate crimes that have risen is this not like all hate crimes, it's specifically racially motivated hate crime. That. That's all it is. An anti lgbtq. That's almost completely what is responsible for this rise in hate crime.
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Joy Reid
All right, let's go to the next one. It's political violence. Now, this is specific. The specific type of violence that is political in nature. This is indictments, arrests and convictions. This is C3 for Mr. Jason Reed. And there it is. And so we look at. There were 64 FBI noted acts of political violence in 2015. The peak is in 2019. 608 and 366 in 2025. Talk a little bit about this.
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Michael Harriot
Yeah. So first of all, I want to present the caveat that as bad as this looks, we actually decided, because it would just skew the data, we excluded January 16th. Right. So like the chart. January 6th. Right. So the chart couldn't contain that data. So what we're seeing, right, is that like Mike Trump runs For President in 2015, in 2016, we see a slight bump, and then he becomes president. And it empowers all of this political violence that we've seen. And what this shows, Right? These are. This is. I want to give credit to the Prosecution Project, who categorizes this and charts it every month. And what we've seen throughout this, it's just right wing violence. Right. Like most of it is right wing extremism and it is violent and it is enacted against LGBTQ people. But this, unlike hate crimes, isn't measured by, like your bias. It is measured by who you're doing the thing to. What motivated you to do this thing to. So I don't have to attack an LGBTQ person, right? If I attack a person who is left leaning because of their politics. If I attack a grocery store owner, that is categorized as political violence.
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Joy Reid
Gotcha, gotcha. Let me read a little bit of your contraband camp post to you. It says here who's committing the violence? And this is C4. According to the numbers, the typical act of political violence or a hate crime is committed by a right leaning 42 year old white male. Over the past decade, whites have committed 57% of violent hate crimes and 56% of political violence in cases where the offender is known. Black Americans are overrepresented in property related hate crimes, but government data shows whites are overrepresented in assaults and act of intimidation. Interestingly, white perpetrators of political violence are more likely to be arrested and. And Indicted, but are the least likely to be convicted. When we map the violence geographically, we didn't find correlation between political violence in red versus blue states. However, adjusting for population reveals that the state of Georgia for some reason is an outlier when it comes to acts of political violence. While Alabama surprisingly had the lowest rate of incidents per capita, 31 per 100,000 residents, New Jersey ran away with the title for hate crimes per capita. In fact, Garden State residents are three times more likely to be a victim of a hate crime than a murder. Did you have any underlying data to explain that? Why is New Jersey out there like that?
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Michael Harriot
Well, I think, you know, when you look at the trends, what you find is that in conservative rural areas, when there is a diversity like this outlier of diversity, like, like New Jersey, like, you know, New York is pretty liberal, but like there are parts of New Jersey that are Alabama, right?
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Joy Reid
And plus like the New York that are Alabama, brother, I hate to say you go way up north, it's like, woo.
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Michael Harriot
There are parts of New York, definitely, but the population center is pretty diverse versus New Jersey. And that's where you see a lot of the political violence. It doesn't take place in cities much. Right. It is places where you see a grouping of black people in white spaces or a group of LGBTQ people in conservative spaces. You get political violence. And we've seen that it's risen. And, and the interesting thing, we couldn't show it on a chart, but there really hasn't been any rise in left leaning violence. There is left leaning violence, but it hasn't escalated. It's pretty steady over the years. And what we've seen in the rise in violence is just right wing conservative people getting madder and madder. And there's only one logical reason why that is, is that, you know, the media journalism, all of broadcast journalism are capitulating and validating their anger as legitimate, just as we've seen with Charlie Curtin.
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Joy Reid
And I want to go back because you did write Black AF history, which again, I think everyone should read it. Like I feel like every student should read it. It is one of the best because, you know, it's history delivered in a way people always give me credit for saying. I put politics where everybody can get it and keep make it plain. That's what this book does. It makes it really plain. It's got story, it's with a storytelling. Y' all will really get this history. It's really important to read that in a 1619 project is what I would recommend for everyone to Read, but talk to me about the history. Because here's the thing that I even learned when I was writing Maygar and Merle, the thing that I was confronted by. I knew it, but I was confronted by it again. You know, up until like the 1960s, it was perfectly legal for a white person to kill a black person. I mean, it was legal. There was no legal barrier to murdering anybody black. If you were white, you pretty much could get away with murder. It was very rare that you would be arrested, let alone convicted for it. Right. The Emmett Till case is a great example. Even Medgar Evers killer. The fact that there was a mistrial was actually shocking because typically people knew they would get away with it. They would tell people they did it. The Klan was cops and your grocery store owner. There was no barrier. And it was sort of almost a reward to the lower class of white people. Right. There was the upper class, the planner class, who would try to be genteel. And then there were the working class whites, especially the ones who like had shops that sold to black people. They were the ones who could do the purge, right? They could lynch, murder, kill anybody they wanted. So to me, when I see a white person like Charlie Kirk get killed, I presume it's a white person killing them. Because most crime is affinity crime. Most crime is white people killing white people, black people killing black people, someone killing someone in their family. The FBI statistics bear this out. Most crime is same race crime. It is rare when people cross over and kill someone of another race. But historically, tell me if I'm wrong. Historically, the vast majority of cross racial crime has been white men killing either a black person or a whole town full of black people.
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Michael Harriot
Yeah. And that's what we've seen historically, right? Like, remember, and we talk about this, you know, this sentiment of this MAGA ideology now, right? Well, in Reconstruction it was called the Redeemers, remember? Like what happened in Reconstruction was not that they were trying to just saying that they were going to attack the black people because we hate them. Right. They were redeeming this country from the radical black ideology that was enacting equality and justice and doing stuff like creating public schools and the state of public services and civil rights. They were redeeming this country for it. And we saw that during Jim Crow. We saw that during the segregationist, Right. When you listen to, you know, everybody playing the segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever part of that speech. But if you listen to the speech in totality, he's talking about the Christian right that is being destroyed by the. What he calls the Mongolization of the races, Right? And he was redeeming it. That's why he stood in front of that door at the University of Alabama, George Wallace did. And historically, this is what we've seen. We're just going through the cyclical. What you. I mean, it's a purge, right? Where white anger rises. And it, you know, we bear the brunt of that. And we are seeing it that. And I think this Charlie Kirk thing is not just inciting whites. It's going to serve as pretense. Already said it. Right, right. We're going to disturb your speech. Anybody who says this thing, but only the people in this group who say this thing, right? We're going to attack them. We're going to jail them. We're going to bring down the full force of the government and the authority to. As a pretext, I mean that as a measure of silencing this opposition. They're redeemers. They are the new redeemers. And we see it through history. But the interesting thing about it, man, and this is the most sobering thing about it, when you talk about all of those lynchers, all of those people like, you look at Ruby Bridges, right? You just celebrated her 71st birthday. I mean, that's not that long ago.
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Joy Reid
No, it's not. It's not.
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Michael Harriot
All of those people who spit on her are still walking around today. All of those kids who. Parents pulled them out of school, they are still walking.
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Joy Reid
Nothing happened to them.
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Michael Harriot
We think about the Nazis. Nothing happened to most of the Nazis. The thing that, you know, the people who did crime and served had criminal cases in the Nuremberg trials were people in the Hitler regime. But the people who, the civilians who supported them, the civilians who voted for Hitler, the civilians who stood by the civilians who told on the Jews that sent them to this concentration camps, nothing happened to them. They're still around today. Today. And we can't wait. You know, I do believe that what MLK said about the arc of the universe bends towards justice, but it doesn't just naturally bend toward it. We have to bend it. Right? And that is the thing. Like, there is no one who is going to change this country or save us but us. And we can't wait for this ethereal idea of justice to right the wrongs that we are seeing and the attacks on black people and the people who are saying what they're doing to black people now is the right way to do it in the New York Times. We cannot believe that this country will ever give us justice, we have to take it for ourselves. And that is what they're trying to prevent.
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Joy Reid
Amen. Let me put one more set stat up. Amen. And also the arc of the universe bends toward justice and then it often bends back. Here's another slide. I just want to put up this one more slide because this is the thing that the right often does, and that respectfully, Mr. Kirk would do is just throw out a stat and say, well, most of the violence, I mean, Nancy Mace did this. Most of the violence is right, is the left, Most of it is the left. Most of it is blacks. Most of it is black people. They're the ones who are violent. Here is the statistic. This is C4, who commits political violence. And this is something that we just have to face. This is not facts. Don't like, don't care about your feelings. This is just a fact. 55.66% of political violence is committed by white Americans. Unknown. 18.64. 11.74% African Americans, which is about at population share. Latinos, the people who Donald Trump said they're bringing crime. People who come from Mexico are bringing crime. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing. They're rapists. Right? And he says the immigrants are. But as of course, three quarters of Latinos who are in this country are citizens, are not immigrants. But only 7.48% are committed by Latinos. Okay. 3.37% by Asians. This is the actual facts, you know, Michael, and it's, it's irrefutable. It's numbers, right?
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Michael Harriot
And we also have to acknowledge that that is Also with almost 20% of those people being unknown, right? So if you remove that, that white percentage grows even more. Right? And you know, we can get into the weeds of what they categorize as political violence. Right? We know there is no criminal statistic that black people aren't over arrested and over convicted for. But if we just take it at face value, man, we can just see from the colors and the numbers and the circle who is responsible for this rise in political violence. And it's not me saying this again, like I just put some numbers into a thing that makes a chart, right? And this is what the chart says. This is what the government says. This is what the scholar says. This is what researchers who know more about this than I do say and I. Patel's FBI.
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Joy Reid
Let's go one more. Let's go. Gender of perpetrators. I think we can go through some pretty quickly. I think everybody can presume it's mostly men. Three quarters are men. And I think that's pretty obvious. There are not that many political shooters and mass shooters are right wing. And this one I think is really, really important because this supposition. And actually, ironically enough, this is the question that Charlie Crook was actually answering. The person who stood up and asked him how many mass shooters are transgender? And he said, too many. And this was the last question he answered before he was murdered, which was really pretty eerie. But there is this supposition on the right that transgender people are the big menace when it comes to mass shootings. And. But if you look on this chart, it shows that gender non conforming people, the number is so small I can barely see it. It's 0.8%. Women is small, it's only 18, 16%. Unknown is 8%. But this number, did it surprise you that it was, it wasn't even 1%?
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Michael Harriot
Yeah, no, it doesn't surprise me because you know, the. I know, like, aside from the statistics, how people's minds work, like when you see the number of shootings that we see per year, and if two of those people are trans, right? You say, well, man, trans people shooting a lot. Because you just don't see trans people in the news a lot. So you be like trans people out here shooting people. That's just how the way our minds work. But when you couple that with an already existing prejudice, right, you ascribe that thing that you've seen anecdotally to a whole group of people. That's how prejudice and bigotry works, right? So I'm not saying, right, like if I am out in a city, I know that the person, you know, I'm scared of everybody. If, if there's a shadowy figure in the dark who's regardless of the race, it is right? But I don't want the police driving by and saying, hey, I'll lock up all the black people. Cuz it's more likely that a black person is going to shoot you. You think that's cool because you'll be safer, right? I'll be like, no, because some of those people are us, right? Some of those people are innocent.
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Joy Reid
Indeed. I have to read this to y' all because this is why you guys should read Contraband Camp. Despite the claims of Elon Musk, political violence is one arena where trans athletes are apparently not interested in competing. That's why as part of this, let's go to this next chart. I have to go to this one because this one is important as well. This is the motivations for Political violence. And this gets to the Republicans. I'm going to play in a little bit after. In a little while, I'm going to play some of the really horrific things that Republicans have been saying, despite the fact that we now know this was the son of a sheriff, a son of a law enforcement officer, a white male, straight young man. And that's a conversation that, you know, the right wants black people to have a conversation about our culture. They want us to talk about hip hop. They want to talk about what's happening in our homes. Why are our fathers not in our homes? Why are there so many? Why is there so much violence in the black community in the hood? There needs to be a conversation for young white men too. I mean, the groipers is a thing. It's a huge movement of very deeply angry young white men who are. Who are pissed off about immigration and want all immigrants deported. And they're angry people. And so, you know, the reality is the mass shootings, it just is what it is. These are the statistics. Right wing white supremacist shooters. White wing, right wing, right wing white supremacist shooters comprise half. 49.8% of political violence. Look at that red line, y'. All. Even if you can't squint your eyes and see what that number is. It's half. It's 49.8% Salafist. Y' all try to say it's the Muslims. Wrong. 8.1% are jihadi. Salafist, Islamic, Islamists, Islam. I won't say Islamic because they're perverting Islam when they do it. But it's only 8.1% of people. Unknown is 8.7%. Look at the leftist number, y'. All. Just look at the blue number. Just look at the red and the. Look at the blue. The blue is less than half of the red. It's only 22.9%. There are antifa people who are anti fascist. What antifa means did this. This shouldn't have surprised you at all, Michael. Most of the violence and the FBI has been saying this. Do you remember when President Obama had the Department of Homeland Security do a study and they said exactly this and the right went crazy and they literally pulled the report.
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Michael Harriot
Yeah, I remember when I wrote about it then with these same kinds of charts and I checked it. I remember when Don Lemon said it and he was almost suspended for saying, the biggest threat to your safety is white men. And we chat and it's true, right? It is not a hyperbolic. The FBI knows it, right? The FBI didn't look all over, you know, that they didn't go to D.C. or a black neighborhood looking for the person who did this shooting in Utah, right? Like, they didn't. They know where to find these people. They know who are committing these crimes. The narrative is something that they won't even confront. But the less they choose to conf. The more they choose to not confront this narrative, the more of these crimes that we see, right? Because they don't want to talk about the white community committing these crimes. They don't want to talk about the inner suburbs or the rural areas where white people live was being responsible for this gun violence, Right? They won't talk about the gun culture because that is politically taboo. And the fact that they are running scared, as the whole media are, is about this Charlie Kurt thing, right? Like, they are deathly afraid to even put the things that he said, not even make a value judgment on him, but just say, this is a guy who has said this thing. Because if you don't tell that story.
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Joy Reid
You cannot know.
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Michael Harriot
What these people were angry about, who might have shot him. Let's say it was leftist. Why would a leftist be shooting a guy who didn't say anything, who was just a civil rights leader, right? Who was just a nice guy who liked to go to apology and teach the kids how to debate? Why was somebody debating? I don't even know if you saw this tweet by Mike Lee that, you know, Stephen King said, well, you know, he said that, you know, it is all right to stone homosexuals. And Mike Lee said, well, he should sue you. And it appears that all of those people didn't know that this quote existed. Like. Like that people weren't making it up. And people posted the actual video of him saying, yeah, you know, the Bible has a perfect law that shows you how to deal with homosexuals. You stone them to death. And these people appeared not to know it exists. And I want to attribute it to them being dumb. Maybe they just didn't know that Charlie was this racist and this homophobic and this anti lgbtq. So either they're dumb or they are the same kind of racist that he is. Because, like, nobody's making things up. And this is the last thing I'll say on them. Him specifically, when people are saying that he's racist, when people are saying that he's homophobic, when people are saying that he's anti Islamic.
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Joy Reid
Where in the thread with him saying.
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Michael Harriot
All that good stuff about the Muslims, where are all the videos of him saying good Stuff about black people. Where's all the videos of him saying good stuff about treating people who are LGBTQ equally? Where's all that? Because you could easily dispute, convince me if you just had some facts. Because people aren't saying, I hate this guy because this is the way I feel about him. I hate this guy because he did this thing and that personally attacked me. So, like, I wish that they could counter this narrative by just proving that he wasn't the person that he showed himself to be.
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Joy Reid
And that would be journalism. But they're not going to do that because now it is no longer allowed. One cannot question, you know, the sort of sainthood of this person. And the bottom line is, again, you can still be absolutely horrified that this young man was killed and murdered, you know, at 31 years old. It's a terrible thing. But also, you could have just let people make the value judgment. It's interesting that they had this sort of. We want everyone to, you know, be equal, have equal access to the facts, and we want to just tell the facts, just the facts and no judgment. You just give them the facts. Michael, Harriet, you are great. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. We're going to make sure we put the link to Contraband Camp and also we're going to put the link to Black AF history, which is. I don't even know if there are any left. It's probably all sold out at every bookstore. I don't even know if you can get a copy, but try to get you a copy. Or go to the library and take it out if you can't find one to buy. But try to support this brother. Thank you very much, Michael.
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Michael Harriot
Thank you for having me again.
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Joy Reid
Of course. Thank you very much. One of the best out there. Michael, Harriet, everybody. Give him applause. We want to big up the chat. Everybody who's hung out with us. Yes, we did start early. If you got here late and you didn't get to the top of the show, I want to holler at everybody in the chat. Thank you all for being here. Everybody in the chat is very spicy. I see all of your comments and I see all of your comments about y'. All. There's the applause. Jason giving y' all applause. I hope you take in the applause. Take it in, take it in, take it in. Take it in. Enjoy it. Take it in. It's really important to applaud yourself. Thank you all for being here. There is a lot of people who are in the chat who are talking about the fact that Tyler Robinson, who was the Shooter is a groiper. I have not confirmed that, so I'm not gonna go ahead and report that. I'm gonna try to do a little more research. I've been trying to look into that a little bit more today. But the bottom line is this person was not a member of the left. But I wanna play for you guys some of what was said because we've been talking about it a lot. I want you guys to hear. I'm gonna start with Nancy Mace. Nancy Mace has been one of the worst. Her first statement out of the gate was to blame Democrats for the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Here's Nancy Mace over. This is a zero for Jason. We're gonna play.
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Nancy Mace
I'm gonna say this. Democrats own what happened today. I am devastated. My kids have called panicking. They probably all the kids of every conservative in the country called panicking. Just because you speak your mind on an issue doesn't mean you get shot.
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Mehdi Hassan
Then do. By that logic, do Republicans own the shooting of the two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota? Isn't this on both sides?
- [68:47]
Nancy Mace
Kidding me?
- [68:48]
Joy Reid
No, I'm asking.
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Nancy Mace
We don't know what condition Charlie Kirk is in right now. Some raging leftist lunatic put a bullet through his neck. And you want to talk about Republicans right now?
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Joy Reid
No, no, I'm asking you.
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Nancy Mace
You said the Democrats on Democrats own.
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Joy Reid
This, but is it a problem with.
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Mehdi Hassan
Political violence across the spectrum?
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Nancy Mace
Yeah, we're talking about Charlie Kirk right now. That's the subject of this.
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Joy Reid
That we're talking. We're not talking about that right now.
- [69:12]
Nancy Mace
Democrats on this 100%.
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Joy Reid
Yeah, okay. She then doubles down someone else. Another reporter. Good for them. Try to ask her and hold her to account. Here is Nancy Mace getting even more specific, telling us without any evidence at all who the shooter was. This is 8A1. Oh, we don't have it. Okay. Oh, oh, we don't have anyone. All right, that's okay.
- [69:38]
Michael Harriot
We're load it.
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Joy Reid
Oh, okay, okay. No worries, no worries, no worries. We're going to move on from A one. She then says. And I'll just tell you what she said. She went out and she said, this is probably a trans person. She's like, it's probably a trans. And that was. Turns out that wasn't true. Now let's move on to a guy named Bob Ander. I've never heard of Bob Ander, but he is a member of the United States House of Representatives.
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Nancy Mace
He ends like, enough is enough. And now I have to deal with real safety concerns. It sounds like the shooter was a Or pro. And just because I want to protect women that I'm worried about getting murdered. Are you kidding me? This is, it's out of control. And, and enough is enough. And I'm going to double down on this. I'm going to be more vigilant than ever.
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Joy Reid
I'm going to be louder than I've.
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Nancy Mace
Ever been until this shit stops. It's got to stop.
- [70:26]
Joy Reid
This person is probably. She is the biggest grifter in Congress. This is a woman who on January 6, 2021, told her staff, go out there, take me out there to where the mob was ransacking the Capitol so I can get punched in the face so I can get publicity. I'm sorry that I even gave her credit for her tears when she met with the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. She walked out in tears and actually voted to go ahead and release the Epstein files. It's the one decent thing that she's done in Congress. She is a troll. She's a troll's troll. She had no, first of all, calling people tranny. You, you're, you know, she used to be very pro lgbtq, but then she realized the money was to be made and the grift was to be had on the right. So suddenly she went to the far right and decided she can't stand LGBTQ people. So because you saw that's where the money is. Now she's literally saying, oh, it was probably. No, it wasn't. It was. The guy's not trans. It's a, It's a guy. It's a white male. Ma'. Am. Let's move on. Bob Ander. He. And this is a three. We're going to get a two. I think it's a two. This is Bob Onder, who's a member.
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Charlie Kirk
Of Congress for us. Well, everything has changed. If we didn't know it already, there is no longer any middle ground.
- [71:34]
Michael Harriot
Some of the American left are undoubtedly.
- [71:36]
Charlie Kirk
Well meaning people, but their ideology is pure evil.
- [71:40]
Michael Harriot
They hate the good, the truth and the beautiful, and embrace the evil, the false and the ugly. And they literally will kill those with whom they disagree.
- [71:48]
Charlie Kirk
Just as their predecessor leftist Marx and Stalin and Lenin and Pol Pot and Fidel Castro did.
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Joy Reid
We must. Uh huh. He had no reason to say that and also should have to apologize. This man blamed all. They're blaming all the Democrats. Okay? This is their thing. The Democrats are to blame. They have no evidence. I just showed you the statistics. The vast majority, more half of political assassinations and murders are from the right. Only about 22% are from the left. You get the guy who shot the number three in Congress was like a far right Bernie. A far left Bernie supporter. That is rare. The vast majority are people on the right who are doing massacres because they're mad at immigrants, they're mad at black people. They went up the one who shot in upstate New York. Scalise. That's right. Congressman Scalise, that guy. That's the one left I can think of in this moment. The vast majority are far right angry right wingers and they are almost demographically white males. That's why the FBI, their typical profile of a mass shooter is a white male between 25 and 49. That is not me, that's the FBI. Let's move on. AOC had a response to all of this and she focused because she's AOC on policy and on what actually would solve things like this. This is a 3.
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Nancy Mace
This is AOC can finger point all they want. Look at the record, look at the actions of what we are doing. I don't think a single person who has dedicated, dedicated their entire career to preventing gun safety legislation from getting passed in this House has any right to blame anybody else but themselves for what is happening. When a politician tries to blame words for inaction, they need to look at their action and their record. We like enough of this. This is horrific. This is awful. And the assassination of Charlie Kirk risks an uncorking of political chaos and violence that we cannot risk in America.
- [73:44]
Joy Reid
Now that came, let's go on to Liz Warren. Very smart comments by aoc because right, the right is out there screaming civil war. There are people on X Twitter screaming civil war. Now we're going to go after every leftist. We're coming for you. Naming names, adding people, saying that we're going to have a civil war. And they're claiming that the left is violent, but their response is to call in death threats to HBCUs and threaten civil war on social media. I'm sorry, aren't you all the January 6th people? Y' all are the January 6th people. But you're saying the left is violent. Prove it. Prove me wrong. The right is violent. Prove me wrong. I want to see what your statistics are. Where's your data to show that most violence is left wing? It's mostly right wing. And sometimes it's right wing on right wing. Sometimes it's people. It be your own people. It be your own people. As the quote goes. Let's now go on to Elizabeth Warren, a senator Elizabeth Warren. She Also had a response to people trying to ask to me a ridiculous question to Democrats. Should Democrats be the ones to turn down the rhetoric tone? Don't talk about the fascism. Don't mention the fascism. Maybe don't mention that Donald Trump is invading US Cities. Don't say the things that are actually happening because it's your fault when a conservative shoots another conservative. Here's Liz Warren. Oh, please. Right. Why don't you start with the President of the United States, Right?
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Nancy Mace
And every ugly meme he has posted.
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Joy Reid
And every ugly word. So that is facts. I'm gonna skip ahead because Donald Trump is the one who has the history of violent talk. There is no one. You saw the charts that I just showed you. I will put them in the substack as well so you can see them. You saw the charts. Violence, including political violence, spiked when Donald Trump got into politics. It spiked when Donald Trump got into politics in the late years of the Obama years, when he was very active in birtherism and talking about President Obama in an ugly way, when there were lots of death threats against the Obamas, all the way through when he was president, when the far right, neo Nazis, KKK types were in their season. And then all the way through the things he continued to say about President Biden and the left while Biden was President Trump, all the way through January 6th, which wasn't even in the charts. The charts would even be worse with that in it. I wanna play you guys just a little bit of history of the way that Trump talks. This is a 8. This is how Donald Trump has spoken since he entered politics. Here is Donald Trump. This is his history. It is a long history. I'm not gonna make it a long clip, but this is just a mashup of the kinds of things that Donald Trump says all the time and that he is saying even to this day, when he's talking about Chicago and about Baltimore and about. Let's play it until we. Until we get. Until we get. Just let me know when you missed that, Okay? I will. All right, here we go. Jason's going to go ahead and reel it in. Here we go.
- [76:35]
Donald Trump
To my great fellow Americans. I am filled with grief and anger.
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Joy Reid
We're going to pull that down. That one. Sorry about that. That said a 7. I said a 7. I meant Trump. A 8. A 8.
- [76:47]
Nancy Mace
A recent wave of anti Semitic attacks, hate crimes in the US Jumped again. The El Paso attack was the deadliest at the hands of a white supremacist in half a century.
- [76:57]
Michael Harriot
So suspect punching, kicking and Stomping on a Muslim teenager, one of the largest.
- [77:02]
Joy Reid
Upticks in the history of hate crime reporting.
- [77:05]
Nancy Mace
Violence is never acceptable. We will always speak out against violence, hate crimes and discrimination wherever and whenever it occurs. It has no place in our democracy.
- [77:21]
Donald Trump
Like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.
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Joy Reid
The suspect yelled the word Trump as he hit the East African man.
- [77:26]
Donald Trump
Part of the problem is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore.
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Nancy Mace
More than 50 criminal cases where Donald Trump was explicitly invoked in relation to violent acts.
- [77:37]
Donald Trump
Knock the crap out of him, would you?
- [77:39]
Joy Reid
Give me my back of my head, bro. That's it.
- [77:41]
Mehdi Hassan
This is for Trump.
- [77:42]
Donald Trump
This is an invasion. When you see these caravans, that's an invasion.
- [77:46]
Joy Reid
A racist manifesto posted online before the shooting claimed this attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. The president and his words appearing in.
- [77:55]
Nancy Mace
Scores of police reports and courtrooms.
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Donald Trump
If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath. The irresponsible rhetoric of our president, who has used the pulpit of the presidency to divide us by race and color, has made America, America, a more dangerous environment than frankly, I have ever seen.
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Joy Reid
That is from a group called really American. They put that out like over a year ago. I mean, it's chilling because. Name the case in which Barack Obama was mentioned by a defendant who had committed a violent act and said he was inspired by Barack Obama. Name one. I challenge you. Post it, put it in the chat. It doesn't exist. But when Donald Trump is involved in politics, suddenly neo Nazis are marching in the streets. The Klan is happy. David Duke says he's happy. We finally have our way. We finally have our guy. Why is it that so many far right wingers like Donald Trump, why are they on his side? Why is the America first movement a pro Trump movement when it's also a deeply anti immigrant, anti black movement that says blacks are inherently violent, that black people are inherently inferior? Why is that always on the right if the riot is supposed to be the peaceful one? Why is all that riot rhetoric over there? Just. Just tell me why it's over there. I have some folks on here that are talking about Matt Dow saying, bring him on the show. We've already been in touch with Matt. I texted him, checked in on him. He's good. He actually was not available tonight. He was doing some other things, but we're gonna get him on the show. We've also asked for George Conway, who took a lot of heat for talking about some of the things that happened after the Charlie Kirk murder. So we're bringing those folks on. So do not worry, do not be afeard. Let's play another thing. This is what Donald Trump said. We're going to skip past his statement. He gave a four minute statement in which he threatened to go after all of the people who did anything that caused this, essentially making it sound like he was going to do like a purge, I guess, of the American left. A lot of threatening things. But I want to Skip to a 9. This is where Donald Trump is asked. This is after he gave his White House statement. This is him being asked whether he's concerned for his own safety because of what happened with Kirk. Are you concerned for your own safety?
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Donald Trump
Not really. I'm really concerned for our country. We have a great country. We have a radical left group of lunatics out there, just absolute lunatics. And we're going to get that problem solved. I'm only concerned for the country. Yeah.
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Joy Reid
Mr. President, how do you want to see your supporters respond to this? Charlie Kirk was a big advocate of nonviolence and free speech on campus. How do you want your supporters to respond, Sir?
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Donald Trump
I think that way. He was, he was an advocate of nonviolence as that's the way I'd like to see people respond. Say it. I did. I spoke to Erica, his wife, and we had a long talk and she's devastated. She's absolutely devastated, as you can imagine.
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Joy Reid
And by the way, I will note that Donald Trump did not call Governor Tim Walls when those Minnesota lawmakers were assassinated in their homes. He did not lower the flags at half staff for the murder of those lawmakers. He didn't even lower it for Jimmy Carter or I think he started lowering it for like a half a day and then brought it back up. He didn't want to do that. He didn't want to do that for John McCain. I mean, this is somebody who has never expressed any interest or concern about gun violence. He said people need to get over it. When students were shot in a mass shooting, he said people just need to get over it. By the way, I want to just let everybody know in the chat. Thank you all for being in the chat. If you have not hit, liked or subscribed yet, this would be a great time to do it. Make sure that you're not lurking, y' all. Make sure you're hitting like and subscribe. We have lots of people watching now. Really. Thank you all for being here. This is actually a robust assortment of people that are here watching the Joy Reid show. We're doing a bonus hour so we were on from 6pm all the way through 7pm Eastern Standard Time. So we're doing a little bit of overtime. Donald Trump said he wants things to be peaceful. He wants everyone to respond peacefully because that's what Charlie Kirk wanted. That's not how it's going. Let's look at B10. This is just an assortment of some of the let's have a civil war tweets that are going up from everyone, from Libs of TikTok. Lots and lots of right wingers just literally losing their mind. This is B10. B10 is showing some of the. It's just an assortment. It's like a grab bag of some of the right wing tweets that we've seen that are going up that are just actually unhinged. Literally people saying let's have a civil war. This is just some of them. There's just a few of them. Libs of TikTok, all of these other right wingers, this is the piece that they're talking about. Doesn't really look like it. It doesn't really seem like. Seems to me that what people are doing is calling for not peace but actual civil war. So that's what we're seeing actually happening online. Stephen Miller, if we go to B14, he put out just a screed. It's so long I'm not even going to read it. But it's just literal insanity where he just went on. That's one page of it. It actually goes on for another page of him just losing his mind, screaming and squealing about what needs to happen to people on the left. It was like actually pretty, pretty insane and crazy. So that happened as well. But I also want to play the FBI director, this hapless FBI director who couldn't at first figure out how to actually solve the crime. The crime was not actually solved, as many in the chat are saying, by the FBI. The, the guy's father turned him in. He was actually turned in by his dad who was a former, was a law enforcer. I don't know if he's current or former law enforcement official. So he wasn't. He's former. So he was turned in by his father who convinced him to turn himself in. It wasn't the FBI. And yet Kash Patel does this lengthy press conference today and just to set it up, this is going to be a five. He does this lengthy press conference today with lots of self congratulations, congratulating the FBI for solving the crime when again it was the young man's father who actually solved the crime because they recognized their son in the surveillance pictures that were released by the FBI. I would give FBI credit for that. And they actually convinced the son to turn himself in. But the end of Kash Patel's statement I think is just so weird that I just have to play it for you guys. Here it is. This is Kash Patel. Let me know when you're ready, Jason, and then fire away. Lastly, to my friend Charlie Kirk. Rest now, brother. We have the watch. And I'll see you in Valhalla. Okay. What does that mean? I'll see you in Valhalla? What does this even mean? This. This is a very strange thing. Can we please pull up B9? He. I'll see when Valhalla sounds like some like, Nordic, you know, white nationalistic. This is what people are doing to him on Twitter. Twitter. Y' all ain't right. That ain't right. That's just mean. That's just mean. All right, now to go back to what I was saying before about some of the people who are funding and creating these right wing superstars that they're funding in huge numbers. I want to go back again and go back to where I started. This is just this. I don't have this to put up on screen, but again, I will post it. I promise I'll put it on the sub stack. But I want to talk about sort of where some of the money comes from. We're not going to do this too long, but I just want to go into just a little bit. I want to read this for you because we're going to do this, get into this later on in the show as this show progresses. The Daily Wire was funded in part by a gentleman named Jerry Boreing, who comes along and gets them $4.7 million in seed funding to create this media giant that is now worth a billion dollars. The two people from whom they raised the initial money included somebody named Farris Wilkes and the billionaire Wilkes brothers. They are from Texas. Their fortunes derive from oil and gas fracking. They pumped millions of dollars into right wing media outlets that have promoted climate crisis denialism and sent more big checks to back an array of evangelical projects and conservative Texas politicians. The fracking billionaires have each doled out millions of dollars through separate foundations over the last decade to a number of high profile conservatives and religious groups, including the Heritage Foundation. It's the one who wrote Project 2025, Family Research Council and Focus on the Family. Thanks to their incredible wealth and largesse, the country as well as the Republican party are now feeling the effects of their aggressive brand of religious, charged political activism, said Daryl Dalchek, a history professor at the University of Notre Dame and the author of Anointed with Oil. Farris Wilkes and his wife control the thirteen foundation, while Dan Wilkes and his wife lead the Heavenly Fathers foundation, both of which have funded with proceeds from the 2011 sale of their majority stake in Frack tech services for $3.2 billion. Since they created their foundations, six and seven figure checks from the Wilkes brothers have bolstered numerous pro fossil fuel and evangelical projects. The Wilkes brothers, for instance, have poured millions of dollars into Prager University Remember PragerU, the pretend university and the Daily Wire, two right wing media outlets that have promoted wide ranging conservative agendas, including climate crisis denialism to school kids and to adults via short videos, articles and other materials. The two brothers have given at least $8 million to PragerU, which is unaccredited, according to Texas Financial records. In July, Florida approved the use of what Prageru has called its edutainment videos and after material and other materials for use in classrooms. And Prageru has said it's trying to get other states, including Texas, to do likewise. So in 2015, Farris Wilkes gave $4.7 million. He gave the whole 4.7 million to help launch the Daily Wire and remains an owner of the media company whose founding editor and co owner Ben Shapiro, has forged ties with Dennis Prager, the Prageru founder and talk show host. Shapiro and Prager are slated to attend up this is something about his retreat. We can go past that. Historically, the brothers have also backed a number of right wing Texas Republicans, including Senator Ted Cruz, whose abortive run for president in 2016 was bolstered by $15 million they gave to a pro cruise super PAC. So that is what the Wilkes brothers have doing. They're very powerful in Texas. They've railed against, this is what they do. Ferris Wilkes has railed against homosexuality, which he deems a sin, according to recordings of his sermons. These guys are both pastors by the way. Let me go back. The evangelical ties of the Wilkes brothers are deep and personal. Ferris Wilkes is a preacher in Cisco, Texas, a town of approximately 3,000 people, where he leads the assembly of Yahweh Seventh Day Adventist Church, which was founded by his father and interprets the Bible literally. While embracing Old and New Testament teachings. Ferris Wilkes has railed against homosexuality, which he deems a sin, according to recordings of his sermons. Homosexuality, he says, is a perversion, tantamount to Bestiality, pedophilia and incest. Ferris Wilkes appears to equate the climate crisis with God's will. If God wants the polar caps to remain in place, then he will leave them in place, he said as he worshiped at a 2013 service. To promote his evangelical views, Farris Wilkes and his brother have donated millions of dollars to several conservative Christian groups, including Liberty Council, Heartbeat International and Family Talk. So the Wilkes brothers are the money behind the Daily Wire. Then let's turn to Turning Point USA, which was founded in 2012, three years earlier by the then 18 year old Charlie Kirk and the then 72 year old businessman, William Thomas Montgomery. Montgomery was an American businessman and conservative activist who apparently met Kirk when Kirk was a high school student who was sort of announcing his right wing views. He saw him as a phenom and he became his mentor. According to Politico, Montgomery's goals were to get Kirk, a close ally of Donald Trump Jr. Elected president one day. Maggio called Montgomery a conservative through and through who wore it as a badge of honor. He died in 2020. He was a Covid denialist and he died in 2020. From COVID From COVID So this is what's happening. We have the far right and a set of billionaires who are creating because I don't think anybody would listen to 72 year old Mr. Montgomery if he decided to do a podcast and talk about his free market and right wing and evangelical views. Or maybe the Wilkes brothers, maybe they wouldn't have a successful podcast on their own, but they're rare. They're very wise about finding younger voices, younger faces to push these views. Montgomery actually convinced Charlie Kirk to drop out of junior college. That's why he does not have a degree. He also, I believe, applied to West Point at one point he didn't get in and he would sort of joke about not having a degree, but that's why he didn't have a degree. He dropped out of college because this guy said, hey, I'm gonna give you all this money to start Turning Points USA whose goal is to pull young, particularly young white people to the right. Just like the groipers, their goal is to pull young white men to the right. And so don't think that these things are just happening organically, that organically young white men are just far right wingers. They're being groomed to stay that way by people who are backed by billionaires. And I know they get mad when I say that, but it is just true. There are billionaires who control the Politics in Texas. James Talarico has named them and talked about them. And I believe the Wilkes are some of the people he's spoken about. Congressman Massie has said that there is a single billionaire attempting to run him out of office because he insists on trying to get the Epstein files out, and that there is a billionaire funding opposition to him to try to get rid of him. Essentially, West Virginia is controlled by one or two billionaires, including Jim justice, the current governor, who's going to now be the United States Senator. This. Did you see where I'm going with this? We have the tech bros, all billionaires, people like Elon Musk controlling X Twitter. You have David Ellison now controlling, not just Paramount through Skydance and CBS and CBS News, but maybe soon, Warner Brothers. You've got these same billionaires apparently looking to buy TikTok, which would then take TikTok all the way to the right. Zuckerberg kissing up to Trump, changing the rules at Meta to get rid of any DEI and to get rid of any restrictions on saying horrific things about immigrants. All of this is happening at the same time. And all of these billionaires, as we talked about last week with Kara Swisher, want something, but they also seem to want the country to be more far right, to be more right wing. And if they don't believe they themselves have the charisma to make this case to young Americans, particularly young white Americans, but also some young black Americans who will hang on with this, who will be hangers onto it. They just find other people to do it for them. And then those younger people, those younger men, have to be the ones to take the risk, because they're the ones who then have to be the public people. They're the ones who have the public profile. But believe you me, the agenda is the agenda of a small set of billionaires who want to control the country and unfortunately now do control the country. And in order to keep Donald Trump on side, they've made him a billionaire, too. They've made him a crypto billionaire so that he will remain on side. That is the game, y'. All. Game, set, match for America. As long as he makes money, he's good. And as long as he makes money. Exactly, Jason. As long as he gets paid, he does not care. Because for Donald Trump, it's all about living his best life now, achieving his bucket list of trying to become a billionaire, of gaining respect, even if he has to buy it and force it, to force the Kennedy Senate to respect him, to get the Yankees to let him hang out that he. They have to let him in the locker room. I'm sure those poor guys are rolling their eyes like, oh, God, why is this guy here? He then heads up and shows up at the World Cup. At the World cup. He's going to show up to watch the US Open and make it all about him. But also the USTA is going to say, you can't boom him. And if he gets booed, you can't put it on tv. Suddenly all the networks are like, well, we can't put him being booed on tv. That will make him angry. So now it has to appear that he only got cheered at the US Open. We don't get to know. We're not allowed to know that he got hated on. In the state that hates him the most, in the city that hates him the most. We're gonna put sitcom clap tracks in the back pretty soon. Pretty soon. They've already canceled the Charlie Kirk episode of South Park. They've now pulled that down. You can still see it. If you've got the streaming service, it is no longer available the normal way that you would watch South Park. And now you're having the major networks literally editing the history of this man who again, was wrongfully murdered. And it's horrific that it happened, but number one, it had nothing to do with trans people. It had nothing to do with the left. This guy was not antifa. He appears to be a conservative young man, one of your own, y'. All. But yet y' all are saying you're going to have civil war against the left. You all somebody. We don't. We can't say who. I do not know who, but somebody. And I doubt it was someone from the left. I doubt it was someone black was calling in death threats to multiple HBCUs to the naval Academy. Why? If you all are the people of peace, if the right are the people of peace and the left are the people of violence, then why does the right keep doing death threats and calling for civil war? Why, if they're supposed to be the peaceful ones, why did they do January 6th? Why did you all bust into the Capitol, beat up cops, bear spray police officers? Why did y' all try to kill Michael Fanon? He was one of you, A Republican, Trump voter, a police officer. Why did y' all try to kill him? If you are the people of peace, why did you all try to kill that man? Why did you try to kill those other officers that were police? You guys are supposed to be backing the blue. Why did you do that? If you Are the people of peace and the left are the people of violence. Why does it keep turning out to be white male conservatives that are doing mass shootings? I just need you to explain it to me. Why? Prove me wrong. Because the statistics say that I'm right and that political violence lives mainly on the right. Historically, it lives on the right. When the Democrats were the right, the Klan was political violence. The Redeemers were conservative, right wing, left Christians who were doing mass political violence, murdering entire towns full of black people because they were angry that they were successful lynching peoples. More than 4,000 lynchings. Black people, some Italians and also some Jewish folks and lynching Chinese people. If that is supposed to be the left, explain to me how that's the left. That's the right. Lynchings are the right. These mass murders are the right. Mass murdering children because you're mad that there are too many Hispanic immigrants. That's the right. Massacring a store full of black people who are just shopping for food in upstate New York. That's not the left. That's the right. Massacring people in church as they are praying in Charleston, South Carolina, at Mother Emanuel. That's the right. That's not the left. That's the right. The reason people are afraid to go to the mall, the reason people are afraid to go to an outdoor concert, the reason people are now going to be afraid to go to an outdoor event at any university. That's not because of the left. It's because of the right. People are not afraid to go to a concert because of liberals. They're afraid to go to a concert outdoors because of that Las Vegas shooting, which still hasn't been solved. But I'm going to just guess that it's probably the right because I'm not so sure. There are left wingers that are out there shooting up concerts. This is just a fact. This is not about my feelings. My feelings are that I'm horrified that anybody dies. This is why I am for the people of Palestine not being killed. So I'm just pro death in general. I'm anti war, right? I'm anti genocide and I'm anti people getting shot. Including Charlie Kirk. I don't want him to get shot either. I don't want anybody to get shot. I don't want people to get shot because I disagree with their views. But the reality is the left. Look, I'm going to tell you this right now. I just did an interview with Crystal Ball recently and Kyle Kalinsky, her husband. I was on their show. They're not going to post it just yet. We're just waiting to get it up when we can have some room in the news cycle. But we talked about the Bernie thing. You know, I was the enemy of the Bernie people. They never tried to threaten to kill me. I got roasted by the Bernie people on social media. It was horrible. It was one of the worst social media periods in my life. The Bernie people were coming at me daily, day and night. I could get on Twitter without getting roasted by them. They never said they were going to kill me. The time when I've gotten deadly threats has been from the right. And this is somebody who actually gets these threats and who deals with it. It ain't the left. It isn't the left. Even the Bernie people who hated me and probably still do, they never threatened to kill me. I never had a Bernie person say, I'm going to kill you. You should die. I get that from the right. Those of us who are in this business, the people who are scared at news networks right now, including my old network, I don't think they're scared because they think the left is going to hurt them. You all on the right keep saying the left don't have guns and hate guns. What are the left going to kill you with? The left are the ones without the guns, right? Y' all are the ones who keep bragging you have the guns. So you're even admitting that it's the right. January 6th, the right. Enrique Tarrio is not the left. He's the right, and he's still threatening people. So this is what we need to face. And as a country, if we don't start facing it and face that, our problem is the right. Not just the actual violence that they're doing, but the way that they're grooming young people to be violent. You all want to talk about black culture, you want to have a conversation about hip hop culture? Let us have that in the black community. We don't need y' all for that. You need to have a conversation about what's happening to young white men. You must have a conversation with them. You must find out why they're so angry that they're picking up the guns. You're letting them get that you're making easy for them to get. And why are so many mass shootings happen? This is an actual serious conversation we need for our country. And this conversation cannot be done by Barack Obama. Y' all are not going to listen to him. It can't really be done by Bernie Sanders, although some of them listen to him. It can't be done by aoc Jasmine Crockett. Can't do it. You on the right have to do it. And I don't know if there's a conservative who has the esteem of enough fellow conservatives to make that happen. Y' all ain't gonna listen to Mitt Romney, but there's gotta be somebody that you guys are willing to listen to. To say that it's enough is enough. Why are y' all so angry? You have the White House. You have both houses of Congress. You have a Supreme Court that is completely obedient to your president. They're willing to give him unlimited power. They're willing to say that he can take Seal Team 6 and kill anybody he wants. They were willing to affirm that. They're willing to say that ICE can racially profile anybody they want. The United States Supreme Court has said you can racially profile Latinos based on their accent or the way they look. You guys have everything you want. You have legal racial profiling. You've ended dei. You've ended affirmative action. You get all the best jobs, even if you're not qualified. You can be a Fox Weekend host and be the Defense Department Secretary of Defense. You can be Cash Patel and be a podcaster who wants to go to Valhalla and run the FBI. As long as you're conservative, you have everything. Why are y' all so angry? What the fuck are you angry about? You've banned all of our books. You've banned black history. You banned the 1619 project. You don't have to compete with women for jobs. You've chased them out of the military. You've chased them out of the senior positions in the Department of Defense. You've gotten rid of all the black history in the museums. Museums are terrified. I have contacts that I'm talking to inside of the Interior Department, people who are running all of those spaces where you can go and see a Civil War memorial or something. The people who work in these places are terrified. They're afraid to tell the real history. The people who are working for the federal government are afraid to say the word black. You guys have canceled black scholarships. You're damn near, I guess, ready to get rid of HBCUs. Donald Trump just recently said they're not going to fund any minority serving institution. Y' all have gotten rid of that. You've gotten rid of help for black kids to go to college. What more do you want? What are you so angry about? I go every so often. I go and lurk and look On Extra. Y' all are the maddest people ever. Y' all are so angry for people who have everything y' all said. You want your country back, you have it. The rest of us are sitting back and trying to keep our peace and preserve our peace while you all are running the country. If the airlines are crashing, that's, you know, that's the people you wanted to run the United States government, the FBI. Y' all are laughing at them on X Twitter and saying that they look ridiculous. That's your FBI. They've purged the people who made the FBI what it was. It's not what you wanted. You have your podcasters running the FBI. You have your friend from the real world running the Department of Transportation. That's what you wanted. There's no longer a gay guy there. The gay guy's gone. The gay guy's at home with his kid and his husband. He's not in charge anymore. The Department of Justice is what you wanted. It's your Justice Department that won't release the Epstein files. If you're mad about the Epstein files, you shouldn't be mad at me and the left. You need to be mad at Donald Trump. You all have the country. You run every red state like it's already Project 2025. You won't let women have abortions in Texas. They're literally dying of sepsis. That's what you wanted. You wanted women to have only six weeks to get an abortion in Georgia. You got it. You wanted Texas to be a petri dish and a laboratory for every right wing, anti black, anti gay, anti trans idea. And you also got rid of vaccines. Every child in Florida is now going to go to school with kids who could give them measles, mumps and rubella and Covid. That's what y' all wanted. You now have a paradise in Florida where you can get sick, cough on people, let them die of whatever disease you're carrying. It's almost like you've got the Pilgrims again that can come and cough on all the natives and take them out. You've. That's what you wanted. You got it. You wanted Florida to be that. It's that. You wanted the United States to be Florida. It's that. But yet you all are still so angry. I don't understand it. I genuinely don't understand it. I don't mean to rant and rave, but I am genuinely trying to get to the bottom of what you all are so angry about. And I think I have a suspicion, and I have a guess what you all are angry about is that while you have gotten everything you wanted on the right, we on the other side won't give you love for it. We won't respect you for it. We won't hail you for it. We won't respect you and say, hey, we want to, you know, have you at the Oscars. We want to fet you. We want to make you guys. We want to wrap our arms around you. You want us to embrace you. You don't just want to run us and tell us what to do and tell us what to think and tell us what to read and tell us what history we can have. You don't just want to tell us what to do. You want us to embrace you. What you really want is to sit at our table. You're mad because while you are running the country into the ground, you're destroying your own farmers with tariffs. You're destroying your own farmers by taking away their subsidies that used to go with usaid. You got what you wanted. They've ended the farm subsidies. These are the things y' all asked for. You got your big, beautiful budget. That's what you wanted. Trump gave it right to you. You got your permanent tax. You're still pissed because the left, the other side, the majority, we still cannot stand you. We cannot stand Christian nationalism. We don't want it. And because we will not say, we want your Christian nationalism, we embrace your Christian nationalism. We like your Christian nationalism. We like you because we won't do that. That's why you're still mad. But guess what we're going to keep on doing. We're going to keep on being moisturized and unbothered, and we still not going to like it. We're never going to like Christian nationalism. We're never going to accept it. We're never going to be down with it. And our squad is bigger than your squad at the end of the day. We have the bojriquas. We got the Mexican Americans. They done woke up. They said, whoo, Lord, let's go ahead and go with these folks. We got the spicy whites, the spicy white fucking with us. They're with us, right? We got the Asian Americans who've woken up and said, whoa, we better be with them, right? Chinese Americans, they see you Japanese Americans, like, you're going to do internment again. We see you South Koreans, South Koreans, like, oh, we see you. Y' all kick the South Koreans out. Now you're going to cry because Georgia's going to have a worse economy because you're not going to get to have the South Koreans teaching y' all to have those high tech jobs. South Koreans are like, oh, well, sure hate it. Africa's like, we're just going to do business with each other. We got bricks. We don't need y'.
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Nancy Mace
All.
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Joy Reid
Tourists are like, we don't need y'. All. The African Americans, the Caribbean Americans are getting together saying, yo, why are we fighting each other? Cribbing Americans are like, yo, we were child. We've been in hip hop together. Let's, let's, let's go off. And you're mad at us because we do not want to be with you. This America you want, that's yours, y'. All, you keep it. We don't want it. Let me big up everybody that's in the chat. Thank you all for hanging with us. This was ot. We did overtime on this Friday. We did it like it was a live chat. Let me think of some of the folks. Look, I'm just telling y', all, we have more squad. We're squabbling up. Squabble up. That's what we're doing. We've got more people. We've got the African Americans, the Caribbean Americans. We've got the spicy whites, we've got the liberal whites. We got the gays, the trans. We got all the people that are going to do the drag shows. We got them, right? We got them there with us. We got the Mexican Americans, who are the majority of Latinos. Sorry, they are. We got the Puerto Ricans. They don't woke up. They said, oh, y' all think our island is dirty. Okay, we with them, right? We got the Chinese Americans, we got the. We got the Japanese Americans, we got the Filipino Americans. Y' all forget about the Filipinos. We didn't forget about you. You can be with us. We've got a very large squad. But what you all have is a whole lot of political power and fear tactics. But fear tactics will not work on us because we have been through this before. You all are forgetting, y' all not playing with newbies here. Maybe my generation, maybe Gen X was not taught. Maybe our parents made us too soft and they didn't teach us how to fight a civil rights movement. But we're very quick learners. We learned the Internet, if we could figure that out, and went from rotary phones to cell phones. We got this. And we are now helping our young people, our kids, our millennials, our Gen A. They aren't all with y'. All. They're not all with Turning Point usa. You guys have Some, but we have more. Yes. I'm shouting at the Filipinos. I've said the Filipinos in the chat are like, yes, shout us out. Shout us out. All right, y', all. I hope y' all apologies for the rant. I had to go off just a little bit, y', all. I could never do this in mainstream media. This is why we love new media. Because I could just have my moment. I needed to say these words and these things, these things needed to be said. Brazil. Brazil is in there. We got you. You see Bolsonaro, y', all, whoever's gladdest, you see Brazil. 22 years sentence for Bolsonaro for trying to overthrow their government. This is how it's done. This is how it's done. They understood in Brazil, this is how you deal with somebody who was an insurrectionist who tried to overthrow the government. They don't sentence that man to a quarter century in prison. That is what should have been done in this country. And by the way, if we had done that even after the civil war with those insurrectionists in the south and not let them off the hook, we wouldn't be where we are today. We should have done real reconstruction and punished those damn insurrectionists from the South. Not a one of them should have been able to come back into public life. No pensions, no jobs, no Congress, no nothing. They should have X them out of public life. Then we wouldn't be here. Letting them get off easy and letting them put up statues to themselves and letting them rewrite our history books. Huge mistake. Let's not do that again. But yes, we're shouting out. And if I missed anybody, the Jamaicans are in the house. I see the Jamaican flag. Throw all the flags up in the house. All the flags. Throw them up. Because that is what makes America great. What makes America great is the diversity. We come from every. We're the baddest people from all over the planet, and we come together to make a multicultural society. That is what's great about America. J.D. vance says diversity is not our strength. Bullshit. It is. Hegseth, the guy from Fox, he says diversity is not our strength. Yeah, that's because you're just a mediocre dude from Fox who gets to be Defense Secretary because of the color of your skin, not the content of your character. Diversity is our strength. We have the baddest military because it's super diverse. It's one of the most diverse militaries on the earth. We got the baddest people from all over the country, put them together and made A country. That is why America is great. And we are not going to lose. We will not lose. We refuse to lose. We're not going to lose to you. We're not going to lose to Donald Trump. And Canada in the house. We love Canada. Oh, Canada. And we got the Palestine flag going. We got the Brazil flag going. I think that might be a Swedish flag. Is that the Norway flag? I'm looking at all the flags in the chat. I'm loving the chat. Loving you guys. We got $10 from Rochelle. Rochelle put a tip in. She said it's so good. The red's so good. I'm gonna throw a tip in. We got fire emoji, fire emoji, fire emoji. We got laugh emoji. Y' all don't even have trolls. Where are the trolls at? The trolls ain't even here. Well, thank you all very much. I'm gonna go ahead and let y' all have your Friday. Don't invite those fools in here. No, we don't want the trolls in, but they gonna take them out anyway. Look, I got all the flags. Whose flag is that? Is that Trinidad and Tobago? Who is the flags? Oh, Jason, help me with the flags. You got to help me. You got to help me. I'm working. You got to work. Oh, he work. He can't tell me the flag. Y', all, look, I know my flags generally, but say what your flag is. If you're throwing your flag in, tell me what your flag is so that I could make sure that I shout it out properly. We appreciate all. I know the J. A flag. You don't have to tell me Jamaica. I already know what that is. If you put the Guyanese flag in, I'd appreciate it. Get my Guyanese people in. Get the Trinis in. Get my Bajans in. Let me get everybody in. Let me get my Canada people in Norway. Ireland. Please, somebody throw an Ireland flag in there. You know, we love Ireland. Ireland is badass. A badass country. Let's get South Africa. What you got there? I said we got black folk in Scotland. Yes. Black Scottish people. Give me my Scottish people. Give me. Everybody throw it all in there. All of the people. Because we. We got this, y'. All. We are the real true majority. We just aren't. We don't have the majority of the power. We just have to get ourselves together, create a plan, figure out what we're going to do. Protect each other, love each other. Stop ice Stand there. We love our. Let me give a shout out to the white Americans who've been using their privilege to defend our Latino brothers and sisters and black brothers and sisters who are being confronted by ice shouts out to you guys, we just interviewed and we're really excited. Joan trumpauer Mulholland, who should be one of the role models that we look up to in this country, that's who should get a Presidential Medal of Freedom. Joan Trump Auer Mulholland, who was a white sister. My soror Delta Sigma Theta, earliest. One of the earliest. Maybe the earliest white member, but she put herself out there. Put herself out there during the civil rights movement and did all of the things. Got arrested. One of the flyest mug shots I've ever seen. That Southern lady, she said, let me look cute in my mugshot. That's the kind of person we need. And people who are standing for those immigrants on the streets of D.C. and Chicago and New York, when you all are putting yourselves out there, that's what we need to see do that. Because you aren't the ones who are going to get hurt by the police. And you know that and the fact that, you know. Nigeria flag in the house. That's what we want to see. Let's get together and do this thing, y'. All. Nigerians in the house. Look at these people with these flags. The Jamaicans. Jason, why the Jamaicans so extra? Why the Jamaicans are extra. See, Jason don't. He don't want. The Jamaicans got 50 flags instead of one. We love it. We got jobs. April, I love you. We got. We got mini flag. Mini flag. I love that. I love that ACOLF with all the fists. We love the fist emojis. That's great. Okay. You guys are a lot of fun. We're enjoying this. We're doing it like. We're almost doing the live chat, right? We're doing it like a live chat. Yay for humanity says. What is that? Pearl Girl 2 says, Yay for humanity. All right, y'. All. We. We got a we with the French flag. Yeah, we have France doing your thing. All right, come on, everybody. TNT in the house. Ethiopia in the house, though. These. These flags are taking me out. This is amazing. Grenada. You can't forget Grenada in the house. What do we got here? We got Ghana. Hey, Ghana in the house. We love that. We love it. We love it. We love it. We got my Creole indigenous people. Yes. Let's shout out the indigenous folks. Shouting, y' all out. Shouting out. Brittany J, who was one of our top TJRS members, threw a 9.99 tip in the. In the till. Thank you very much to Marcus. Thank you very much. We appreciate you. Love you back. Steve's Adventures throwing $1.99. Look, I'm gonna go ahead and get me a candy ball with that. That's amazing. Thank you very much. And by the way, all the tips that you throw in, they don't go to me personally. They go to work on this team. This team works really, really hard, you guys. We are small but mighty, and we always want to be able to, like, get little stuff for the team, do stuff for the team, make sure the team has the stuff they need. So thank you all very much. That's Donna Watson. Thank you for the 9.99. We appreciate it. You do not have to throw a tip in, but if you do, we just appreciate. Love it. We appreciate. Love you guys so much. Lebanon. Oh, my goodness. We got Lebanon in the house, y'. All. Look. How bad is this? We got Lebanon, Barbados, Panama, Jamaica. We got everybody. This is amazing. I'm loving this. This is actually really warming my spirit right now. We are showing the international flavor of Team tjrs, the international flavor of the resistance. You see the shirt I got on?
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Mehdi Hassan
That's the difference between terrestrial TV and online independent news.
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Joy Reid
You can go worldwide. That's it. We can go worldwide. And look, when we were over at the other spot, y' all couldn't listen to downtown Sterling Grand. You couldn't hear. But you can hear Jason's dulcet tones. You can hear Jason. Jason can shout y' all out. We appreciate it. We got Spain in that. What? We got Spade in the house, India in the house. Wherever you came from, you guys are all part of the family, part of the team. By the way, we have an international audience. I was looking at our metrics. We got listeners in South Africa, listeners in England, listeners in the U.S. so whether you're in the U.S. or not, wherever you are, thank you all for tuning in. We just absolutely love you guys. Quebec, Montreal. Quebec in the house. Costa Rica in the house. Botswana in the house. This is pretty awesome. This is amazing. Jason, look at this. I hope you can see this chat. This is incredible. Same news show. I'm working.
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Mehdi Hassan
I got the screen on.
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Joy Reid
He's working. He got the screen rolling. This is amazing. And of course, shout out to Gaza. God bless Gaza. We are praying for you all every day. God bless. Also the occupied West Bank. We're praying for you guys every day. We just praying for food, we're praying for help. We're praying for health. And also for Haiti. Yes, Sakpase, Haiti. We got the Haitians in the house also praying for Haiti every, every, every day. Iran in the house. Look, the Iranian flags. Trying to outdo the Jamaicans with 400 Iranian flags. We love it. But look at this. The rainbow flag. Yes, rainbow flag. Yes, rainbow flag. Yes, rainbow flag. Dallas, Texas, in the building. We gotta have our south. We gotta love our South. Thank you. Dallas, Texas, we appreciate y'. All. Yes. We are sending Gaza love. I'm loving all the love that you guys are sending right now. Trinidad showing out. 40,000 flags from Trinidad. 40,000 flags from all of these places. And look, the reality is you cannot stop this movement. You cannot stop it. Chi Town, Chicago, in the house. Turkey in the house. Dominica. And no, it's not Dominica, it's Dominica. Okay? Dominica is in the house. Thank you so much for being here as well. I'm just loving it. This is so much fun. I'm having a great time. Michigan, watching from Michigan, shouts out to Lisa Gonzalez watching from Michigan. Thank you for so much for tuning in, Mike Deezy. The world loves joy. Well, thank you very much. I love you all back. Thank you guys very much. This is pretty cool. This is pretty cool. Cecilia Romero from Antigua, checking in. Sierra Leone, checking in. Delaware, checking in. Virginia. Bililoxi, Mississippi. Birmingham, Alabama, checking in. Chicago with a lot of O's with KG checking in. We got lots of people praying for Gaza. We got Democratic Republic of Congo. My people checking in. Thank you very much. Congo, Sudan, checking in. Jamaica, diversity checking in. SoCal. Yes. Southern California, checking in. They're feeling the hope, feeling the love. Feeling the love, feeling the hope. Ukraine. Slava, Ukraine. Thank you very much. J O. Slava, Ukraine. We got you. You guys are going to get this. And y' all are kicking them Russians ass. Keep kicking ass. Ukraine, we love it. Y' all are heroic. We love your president. Tell your president to come on. We would love to get an interview. I know he don't have a lot of time. He's pretty busy. Portsmouth, Virginia, checking in. Brooklyn, New York. My people. Brooklyn, checking in. Thank you so much. What do we got? We got Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Baltimore, Maryland, Tennessee. Cleveland, Ohio. Connecticut. Dallas. Thank you. I love you back. Connecticut. Springfield. Ah. Springfield, Illinois. God bless y'. All. Springfield, we got you. And we love your Haitian immigrant population. Los Angeles, in the house. This is one of the best live shows that we have done. I've had such a great time. I am really going to let y' all go now because y' all need to start. Get started. Yeah. I want to go get some drinks, man. Come on. Let's go get some cocktails, y'. All Let me know what cocktails you're going to have, because we about to go get one. PJ Schuster, thank you very much. 49.99. PJ. Oh, my goodness. Okay. We had to buy the whole team a drink with that. 49.99. We love our diversity. Thank you so much, D. Terrell. And that's it. Senegal in the house. Bronx in the house. Memphis, Chicago. Shouting. Everybody out. Dallas, Texas, San Francisco to bx. We love you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in to the Joy Reach show. If you have not hit subscribe, please hit subscribe. Don't be lurking. Don't be up in here, making me all happy in the chat, having so much fun and then not being a subscriber. Be a subscriber. Also. Hit that share app. Hit that. That little, like, app. A little up, thumbs up. We appreciate. We have 2700 likes, which is great for the algorithm. The thing about social media is they really pay attention to the likes, the subscribers. So we want to make sure that you guys tell a friend, tell everybody they need to tune in, they need to subscribe. Let's get us to 500,000 subscribers, y'. All. I believe we can do it. I believe that we can do it. You think we can do it by.
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Mehdi Hassan
The end of the year?
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Joy Reid
I think we can do it by the end of the year. French 75 has been suggested. I think I'm going to take you up on that. I'm going to go get my French 75. And when that. What are you going to get, Jason? What are you going to drink? You know exactly what I'm gonna get. Bourbon sour. Bourbon sour. Jason gonna get his bourbon sour. If you know Jason, you know he love a bourbon sour. All right, y', all, we're gonna go have our cocktails. We're gonna wish you guys an amazing weekend. We absolutely appreciate. Love you. Thank you for all the support that you've given this independent media channel. The Joy Reid show is a labor of love. Cause we love you and we're gonna win this thing. Cause we got the squad squabble up. Y' all have a wonderful weekend and we'll see you. It.