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That's just not true. That's just. That's just. It's not true. It's not true. Let's go through some of the data that we've seen in terms of these arrests. Let's. Let's start with D5 this is the number of arrests that we've seen through January 8th. So this isn't right up to date. This is through January 8th, 352,590 people detained. The number of people currently in detention is 70,000. Now, keep in mind, again, their goal was to eliminate a million people a year. The total deportations this year is 352,380. That's about a third of what they actually wanted to do. Let's go to the next slide, if we could, please. And this is. And we're going to bring this one back once we have our legal guests, hopefully soon notice the red line that's going up. And if you're seeing this on a TV screen, you're going to maybe have to squint and look a little bit. If you look at the gray line in the middle, that is the number of people who have pending criminal charges who are in detention in the United States. Going all the way back to 2024 is where the sort of red lines begin. You can see that Trump begins in January. And every number starts to go up. The black line, which is the number of people in detention who have a criminal history, meaning they've been arrested at some point for some sort of a crime. And keep in mind, some of these people with a criminal record, it's like a crime they committed 20 years ago or something, but they're using that as a pretext to take people in. So that line is that black line. But look at the line that's really shot up since September, October. If you look at that red line, look how that line has shot up and how starkly steep it is compared to the other lines that are sort of creeping up slowly. The line that's gone up the most are people with no criminal record at all. So they're not focused on getting the worst of the worst. By the way, there was also a division of ICE whose job was just to arrest people who were convicted of child molestation, robbery, murder, et cetera. And again, undocumented immigrants commit crimes at far below the rate of Americans, which is logical because if you're undocumented and you commit a crime, you're gonna get deported, so you're not committing crimes. Undocumented people don't commit crimes. They're trying to work and stay in the country. So the American born population has a higher record of criminality, a higher rate of criminality. But of the people who actually had some sort of criminal arrest, they are now the minority of people who are being detained. The Majority of people being detained are people with no criminal record at all. Let's go to the next slide. This is D8. This is the Homeland Security data about the arrests by ICE and cbp. So if you look at this chart, you'll see that during the Biden administration, that's the gray at the far left of your screen. The people in ICE detention and the arrests were fairly moderate. This is the period that the right and that MAGA says triggered them to put Trump back in because they were so angry about the low numbers of arrests and detentions. You see it shot up when Trump came back in, and then you had the government shutdown in which there was no arrest because there was no government. And then afterwards, you see it spike. This is as they are getting desperate to boost their numbers even higher. They're getting more and more desperate over time to boost their numbers to a million a year. And thanks to the Guardian for these. These slides are from the Guardian. Let's go to the next one. This is now actual Homeland Security data. This is their own data that they actually share themselves. These are the arrests buy ice over time. So now you go back to 2021, fiscal year 2021, and that means all of sort of going up into 2021. It's fairly low. And then you get, during the Biden administration, a huge spike in arrests over time. So you can see here that Biden was deporting a lot of people, arresting a lot of ISIL's, arresting a lot of people under Biden. And then in 2024, it went down because you had a lower demand at the border. And most of these arrests were at the border. And here's 2025. And let's go to the next slide, if we could, please. Despite the fact that you had less demand at the border, the budget for ice increased by 258%. $29.9 billion of your money allocated for detention alone. The daily detention capacity in a country in which the government wants to deport a million people a year is only 116,000 beds, which is why they're now using private prisons. There were 21,000 people employed by ICE. That was the total staff in 2025. Enforcement personnel, 7,700. The federal prison comparison, 62% larger than the staff in the prison system. Let's go to the next slide, if we could, please. Now we look at, again, this is the government's own data in most cases, right? The total in ICE detention in the fiscal year 2025 was only 57,861 people. That doesn't sound like the kind of numbers that they are talking about and that they're selling to their base. Right, but the percent with no criminal conviction by their own data is 71.7%. You round that up, that means that 72% of the people that they have in ICE detention have no criminal conviction. Only 28.3% of the people in ICE detention have criminal convictions and scenes. They're not grabbing the worst of the worst. They're just grabbing anybody. Brown, can we go to the next one? D10. Can we see that one? Oh, that was D10. Okay, there we go. This is the last one. So now let's look at the last slide here. This is the ICE detentions over the last decade. Now, they used to call Barack Obama deporter in chief because he did a fair number of detentions. She. Could we put that back up for just one second? Yeah. Thank you very much. One more time, please. Barack Obama was called deporter in chief. A lot of Latino voters who turned against Obama and decided they wanted to go Republican and go right wing. There was a saying, a friend of mine, that is a good friend, she's Colombian, she's in the news business. She said they used to say, please, mama, don't deport my mama. Please, Obama don't deport my mama. But his detention rate, you can see, is pretty low. If you compare, we're Talking about about 300,000 people in the year 2015, 2016, the final year of his administration, when they were pushing really hard to get an immigration deal. The Obama administration believed that doing a lot of deportations would encourage Republicans to make a deal. That did not happen. Despite that high, relatively high number of deportations or detentions, it didn't change Republicans behavior despite the fact that Obama and his administration. And by the way, the person he put in charge of doing that was Tom Homan. The person that Barack Obama hired to do these deportations was Tom freaking Homan. I think he even got an award for his meritorious service doing those deportations. We put that up one more time. Those deportations then shot up when Barack, when. When Donald Trump came in the first time. So you can see Donald Trump comes in 2017. The numbers spike because he's trying to keep this promise of mass deportation. So the detentions shoot way up, then they go down. Why the pandemic, that steep slope down. That's because the pandemic happens and then Biden comes in and the detentions start to slowly creep up again. You see them in 2024 at the highest level, not quite the highest level, but going up under Biden, because Biden also was trying to cut a deal with Republicans to close the border, seal the border and try to reverse this, what they consider this wide open border, which wasn't a wide open border, but about 10 million people did come into the country during the Biden administration. And that is supposedly what fueled MAGA to believe that they needed to bring back the dog, the barking dog, because they were so freaked out that so many people came into the country forgetting that one of the reasons so many people came into the country was because during the pandemic, lots of Americans were sitting home and people still wanted meat, they still wanted chicken and turkey, and they still wanted lettuce and tomatoes and food. And so there was a big draw of undocumented immigrants who became essential workers who came here to do the jobs that literally Americans not only didn't want to do, but were terrified to do because they were afraid of COVID And yet those undocumented immigrants who then stayed, in many cases, maybe in some cases got married, had families, those are the people that ICE is throwing on the ground, kicking, hog tying and throwing into random vans. This is where we're at. This is what's happening. Ice. Yeah. People are like, Homan. Wow. Yeah. Tom Homan worked for Obama and claims that he was red pilled by not being allowed to be harsh enough. We've had a mass deportation system that's really kind of existed since the 90s. The last time we had an actual immigration law was I believe, in the late 80s. The last time we had a robust immigration law was in 1965 when Lyndon Baines Johnson passed an immigration act that allowed and widened the scope of allowing people from Latin America to come into the country as immigrants. Whereas before that we were living in the age of the Asian Exclusion Act, 1927 era Immigration bills that did not allow Asians, didn't allow certain southern Europeans, and blocked people who weren't white to try to get America's demographics to be the same as they were in 1890, meaning mainly white. And so we really just have demographic panic because after the 1965 law, lots more brown people came in and then so many came in that by the time Ronald Reagan came along, Ronald Reagan did an amnesty and basically wiped clean the slates of like 2 million people. He just led, he just did straight up amnesty because so many brown people had come in through that 65 act and people were freaking out about the demographics then too so he just did amnesty. Reagan just was like, poof, y' all are all legal. Some of their children and grandchildren are probably voting MAGA now and singing I will vote. Vote on. Right. And so then you fast forward to the pandemic, and yes, you had a surge of undocumented people who came here and kept y' all alive and made sure y' all could eat. Everybody wanted the Chick fil A. They wanted the food, but they didn't know who was making the food, who was working in the meatpacking plants, who was working in the fields, who was picking the lettuce and the tomatoes and all the food we were eating during the pandemic. Those people are now being thrown to the ground, tackled, beaten up. And the people protecting them, including white women, are being harassed, ridiculed, cursed at, name called, and in the case of Renee Nicole, good shot in the face. And I listened to Fox today as they said, Jesse Waters said that we're the bad guys for wanting to have compassion for those people because those people are all a bunch of rapists and criminals. Meanwhile, he is verbally fellating the president who is doing nothing but protecting pedophiles and releasing scammers and fraudsters with pardons. That's the guy protecting all the Jeffrey Epstein pedos, his favorite president that he worships and loves and whose ass he kisses all day, every day on fox. But we're the bad guys because he. He thinks that the lady at the bus stop that Michelle Norris did a piece, and I was texting with Michelle Norris the other day because she did a piece in which she talked about a woman who was snatched from a bus stop, a Latina woman just sitting in a bus stop, snatched by ICE in front of two men who were like, what are you doing? And they were like, what's happening? They're freaking out about it. This lady's gone. Nobody knows who she is, where she is. But Jesse Waters wants you to think that lady's a criminal and just assume she's a criminal because she's brown. But Donald Trump, who's a fraudster, a civilly adjudicated sexual abuser, a scammer, a crook, he's all right. We're supposed to side with him. And we're supposed to side with Jonathan Ross, who's now claiming to have been so dearly injured when that car didn't hit him and steered away from him as she tried to comply with his demand that she go away, that they drive away. She tried to drive away and you shot her in the Face, man, but we're supposed to side with him. And when I tell you I was on C Span listening to. I was not. I was listening to C Span this morning as half those callers called in and took Jesse Waters, Jonathan Ross and Donald Trump and Stephen Miller's side, including some elderly people, some. Somebody's grandma calling in sounding like a 1930s pro Hitler, Sieg heil, fascist, somebody's grandma saying, these illegals, they're to blame, they need to be thrown out of this country. So if you think this problem is that, the problem is Trump, you're not paying attention. The problem is us. The problem is we live in a country where they want apartheid, where 40% of this country wants every American to have to show their papers, to take their passport and their birth certificate everywhere they go, and be prepared to show their papers to any masked agent who asks you for it. They want that. They want you to. Because they know they're never going to be asked to show them. They know they're never going to be asked to prove that they're an American. They know that an indigenous Native American, a Cherokee, an Oglala Sioux, they're going to be asked to show their papers, but they know they, the little granny ass C Span caller knows they're never going to be asked. And if they were asked, they'd be highly offended and enraged. They would be so angry and enraged if they were asked. But they don't mind you being asked. And they now have included in the group of people who they don't mind being harassed and humiliated in the street. Any white person who empathizes with brown and black people who are being asked. And so if you're white and you're not down with this, they want you to be asked. This is how apartheid works. Apartheid does not just demonize the black or the brown, the immigrant, the poor. It demonizes the. The affluent and the white too. If they're not down with it, they try to bully and get everyone on team. And if you're not on side, you two are the enemy. That is why the right is gleeful about the killing of Renee Nicole. Good. Because in their mind, she's a traitor. She's a race traitor. She's a class traitor. She should have been with them. And if she had been with them, she'd be fine. She should get out of the way and allow ICE to quote, unquote, do their job. What is their job? Because the last I checked, they're not the police. They're not supposed to be picking up People for being unhoused, that's not a crime for which ICE is supposed to be called. When you see somebody that is living outside on the street, is it ICE that you call for that? Is that their job? Is it their job when they're off duty to stop people from firing in the air on New Year's? Is that ice's job now really? Is it their job to just go up to people on the street and say, hey man, are you a citizen? Where were you born? That's apartheid. That's literally apartheid. If you go and put yourself in a time machine and go back to 1980 South Africa, that's what they would do. Show your papers. Show them to me now. And you know who used to call demanding people's papers apartheid and fascism? Marco Rubio. Back when I was in Florida when Arizona tried to pass a law that would order every Arizona citizen to walk with their citizenship papers and show them on demand to any police officer because the conservative government at the time was trying to out anti immigrant everyone else. Marco Rubio called that fascism and said that's apartheid. Google it. He and Jeb Bush both said that's fascism. Marco Rubio, whose brother in law is a major former drug dealer, a major, major cocaine dealer would be aghast if his brother in law was demanded to show his papers or if his wife or his daughter were. But he thinks you should be because he's on side. And so they've got these paramilitaries, these paramilitary forces operating in our streets with no rule of law attached to them doing something fundamentally illegal. Fundamentally illegal. Demanding to know your citizenship on demand. It is not. I'm not a lawyer, but I promise you, I get Angela Rai back on here and she will tell you that that is not legal. I'll get Katie Fang on here. I promise you, you are not required to prove your citizenship on demand as a United States citizen. You are not required to do that. But they're saying that we are an apartheid state. They're playing music that is from neo Nazis. They're celebrating neo Nazism from the seat of the state. They're putting up Department of Labor memes on X Twitter that show these idyllic white faces and saying that is America and no one else. They're ripping down anything that is non white, that is historical and saying it isn't history, it isn't valid, it isn't worthy. They're replacing monuments to the Confederacy on our military bases. Do you see what they're telling? Just to hear what they're telling you. And when Jesse Waters says they're the good guys, it's because that is what he voted for. People like him, people like those callers to C Span, you just better believe they're not being fooled by this. They're not being tricked by Trump. This isn't about him. He's actually, in many ways, the least interesting part of this story. Trump, in many ways, is a joke. Like, he's a goof. He's somebody. If I gave him this, he'd think it was an Oscar because he just is so freaking thirsty that he just wants to be lauded and loved and commemorated. If I gave him this gold thing or I gave him this, he would treasure it because it's gold. And he's just like a child that wants golden things and to be patted on the head while he's patting women on the ass. He's the least interesting part of the story in many ways. What's interesting is the sheer number of Americans who are actually in favor of this. When I think about Nazi Germany, Hitler was an evil man, but it took a lot of people to either be for him affirmatively or to look the other way and let him do what he was doing because they thought less of their neighbors who are being snatched, kidnapped, and detained. They thought less of them than they thought of him. Franco, same thing in Spain. It's always the leader we focus on, but it's the people who make it happen. And in this country, it's got 30 to 40% who. They really did vote for this. They really do want it. They really enjoy watching these people get hurt. And so before you assume that this is unpopular everywhere in America, go back and listen to what Joe Rogan said. He said, on the one hand, that might look like the Gestapo, but on the other hand, maybe we need the Gestapo because too many brown people came in here during Biden. And he can see how people might be upset about that. And my question will be, why? Why are you upset about that? Because those brown people who came in to clean up the economic disaster that Donald Trump created when he screwed up the pandemic response left this country with collapsed employment and left industries desperate for workers who were willing to come, by the way and work during the pandemic, some of those people came in during him. Because during the pandemic, who wanted to go and work in the open in a meatpacking plant, the people who fed us, kept us alive, kept our businesses afloat, kept our construction businesses afloat. Those are the people that these paramilitaries Are hurting, harming, detaining. And when they're, you know, when they're spraying tear gas at them, sometimes they're hitting six month old babies. I want to note that we were supposed to have Cheryl and Eiffel tonight and she's having connection issues. So that's why you're. You're stuck with me in the moment. Because her. She's having connection issues. So that is the issue. We will, we will invite her back to make sure that she can come on and give you actual legal analysis. Because I'm just. I'm just. I am not a lawyer. But I'm just telling you that I can read the Constitution.
