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That sounds like a plan. Calvin. Clerk.com. we're going to put that in the description here. I'm going to put on the substack as well. Calvin, we really wish you the best. Calvin Duncan, what a heroic thing you're doing for other people. And thank you for giving back to the community despite all that you have been through. Thank you, Calvin. Thank you. All right, we're going to make sure that we put that link in there. Calvin's Internet was not wanting to let him be great, but he is great. And I think that he. He should win. He deserves to win. And isn't it interesting that Calvin served From age he said from 19 to 47 for a crime he did not commit. Donald Trump is a 37 count felon and he was sentenced to no time because it was seen as too controversial to put him in prison for his crimes. He was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll. That was a civil case. There was no jail time even on the table. Jeffrey Epstein, we're going to talk about this more in hour two. Railed against the fact that he was convicted in a state case for trafficking. They used the sort of man act style trafficking laws against him. But he only served a very short sentence and was able to go to work every day and be driven by Florida sheriffs to work every day like they were his chauffeurs. He had a very. But he was still mad about that. There is definitely unequal justice in this country. Ghislaine Maxwell, who did get 20 years for sex trafficking and abuse, she's trying to get her sentence commuted or overturned outright because these people don't believe that they ought to have to pay for their crimes. It's disgusting. And people like Calvin pay for things they didn't even do. And yet look at his spirit in terms of believing that he can help other people and he is trying to help others by running for county clerk. Many thanks to wonderdog999 in the till. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. We always appreciate everybody's generosity and kindness. We love our chats. The chats are great. The chats are actually loving Calvin. Make sure that you do go to Calvin for clerk.com and you can actually take that. Take those coins and put them in his till because we do want. We got a super sticker for wonder dog because you deserve it. This is the kind of person that we should be electing in this country. We have a lot of elections in which people say they have to vote for the lesser of two evils. They're not happy with their choices. In this case you have a great choice. Somebody who has actually served time, who knows the power of this clerk ship. He knows the power of this office and is just the right person, I believe New Orleans that you should choose because he will actually work for the people. By the way, I don't know whether any lawyers besides Calvin in Louisiana might want to do a class action lawsuit on behalf of the people incarcerated in Angola. If the clerk is dumping the records that could could free people into a landfill. That sounds like something you should sue over. If we had a justice Department, it sounds like something you'd want to report to it, but we don't have a Justice Department anymore. We have Pamela Joe, whose outfit is only there to go after Donald Trump's named enemies, including James, James Comey, for whatever reason. Let's get back to what we were talking about regarding what Trump was doing. We have a really great guest coming up in this hour. At the bottom of the hour, we're gonna be speaking with my friend Stephanie Miller, the top rated morning show host who gave Sean Hannity the business. And so I literally texted her immediately, like, please, please, please come on the show. We can talk about her giving Sean business. We also have a great guest who's in a really terrific film that Sean, our very core team member, called me about and was like, this movie, you've got to see this movie. It is an incredible movie. She told me about it. The movie is called Sarah's Oil. We're going to talk to the star of that film at the end of the show. But before we get to that, I want to welcome everybody to hour two of the Joy Reed Show. Thank you all for tuning in. Be sure to hit like and subscribe. If you are there watching right now, hit that little thumbs up button. That means you like hit the little subscribe button. We hit 350,000 subscribers today. It is a great milestone. We're trying to get to 500,000. We are. Thank you very much. We're trying to get 500,000 by my birthday. My birthday is December 8. Thank you to is this Shenita A Aua Benjamin, 9.99 in the till. We appreciate that. Thank you very much for that. But I want to go back, Jason, if we could, I want to go to a 25 because I want to go back to these emails. Just if you missed the top of the show. We've been talking about the power that Jeffrey Epstein was wielding and the influence that he had. I mean, he's emailing secretaries of, he's emailing former Israeli prime ministers. He's advising on ways that the Russians can influence Donald Trump and be influential with Donald Trump. And if you go down to May 30th of 2019, now we're going to 2019. We went all through 2018. Jason, if you could leave that up for a minute, make it big because I'm looking at it on this screen, if you don't mind. May 30, 2019, just two months before Epstein, who is this high flying, very connected billionaire investor. He's got Lex Wexner, who is the guy who owns Limited, which is Victoria's Secret. He's got all of these amazing clients. He's recommending people to chase. He sends an email on May 30, 2019. This is just two months before he himself gets indicted by Bill Barr, by the way, whose father hired him to teach in that Tony school in Manhattan. He sends an email and exchanges these emails with Michael Wolf. It is the same Michael Wolf who he was sending, who sent him an email before the election was completed, telling him that there's a way that he could wield influence by banking the information he had about Donald Trump and quote, unquote, letting, letting him hang with it, hanging him with it. So he sends this email to Michael Wolf in which I'm gonna try to hold on. I have put my glasses on so I can see it. Jason, keep it up there. Come put glasses on so I can see it up close. And he talks about, he says a guy named Salvador Mundy, the last known da Vinci, who, who owns the last known da Vinci painting in private hands, has an incredible provenance. A guy named Rybolev, who is a Russian oligarch, purchased this piece of art for $127 million in 2013 through his art dealer, the Swiss businessman Yves Bouvier. Bouvier, the owner and operator of several freeports, bought the painting for $50 million with the intention of selling it to Rybolev at a steep profit. Its owner before Bouvier, the New York City based gallerist Robert Simon, found the painting at an estate auction in New Orleans in 2005, and he paid only $10,000 for it. So then Michael Wolf asks him, you have an art guy. And. And he responds, well, who doesn't? And he says, in addition to my art and the painting, the painting wasn't very good. So he says, so he's talking about this painting. He then goes into the fact that Donald Trump ends up flipping a home that they were both interested in. We can go to Jeffrey Epstein, art guy, email number two. And this, remember, he's going back and forth and then he says, let me go back here. He says, on the subject of them flipping this artwork, he talks about maybe what Trump is doing, or maybe what this ribbon is doing is a favor to Trump in exchange for Yemen and Iran support. And he says, it smells, doesn't it? That's what Michael Wolf says. I mean, that's what he says. Then Michael Wolf says, so maybe MBS Mohammed bin Salman was paying him off. Why? Ideas, he says, is it a coincidence that the Russian that Bought the house in Palm beach because he segues from talking about the art to the house that they both wanted. I'm gonna talk about this more in a minute. In Palm Beach. Is it a coincidence that the Russian that bought the house in Palm beach and knows all is the same guy that sold a painting last year to MBS for $450 million that was only worth 1.5 million? So I'm reading them in reverse. So he says, is it a coincidence he talks about this painting that is the last known major piece in private hands. This guy buys the painting for $450 million, then he sells it for. Only he sells it to Mohammed bin Salman. That's who MBS is, $450 million. But the painting was only worth $1.5 million. And he says, is that a coincidence that the Russian who bought the house, who bought that painting and bought the house, who knows everything, is the same guy that did that, that does this transaction with mbs? And then the response from Michael Wolf is, so MBS was paying him off. Why? Ideas. And then Michael, Jeffrey Epstein says, maybe as a favor to Trump in exchange for Yemen and Iran support smells, doesn't it? So he's sort of speculating about corruption. He's speculating about corruption. That is in May, where he's sort of speculating with Michael Wolf, who's, you know, talking to him all the time and ostensibly writing a book about him that has not yet come out. But then a few months earlier, go back now to February, Epstein doesn't really seem so confident. And this is where I want to read you guys this long, really kind of whiny email that Jeffrey Epstein sends to himself. He actually sends this email to himself. And now I gotta put my glasses on. Come read this. And I'm reading this email because it is very interesting. If this is Jeffrey Epstein in February, this is the same year he winds up getting indicted by Bill Barr's doj. Again, Bill Barr being the guy whose father hired him initially to be a math teacher. Then Trump turns on him. He was, you know, he's still trying to sort of advise on how to deal with the Russians and MbS. He still seems to be a player. But in February, he writes this very whiny email. Is the email. It's on your screen. And he responds to the own. I'm going to tell you how he responds. He says, prostitution is a state crime. This is what he writes to himself on February 1st. Never before a man in his own house charged with soliciting exclamation point. In Florida, first offenders are required to take a sex ed class and get pretrial diversion. No criminal record. There was a felony solicitation for the third offense. All caps. Third, the grand jury was held and they found me guilty of one count of felony solicitation because there were many girls. Mandatory diversion sentence. Four exclamation points. A grand jury usually only for capital murder cases. Ricard C. And Ryder Police chief. He's naming these people pulled my garbage for months and surveilled the house, letting all the girls come and go, question mark per exclamation point. Called the FBI. They did not like the grand jury result and released to the press the raw sewage of police interviews. I. E. No girl was cross examined ever. He says unheard of. The girls returned to the house multiple times for $200 for a rub and tug. No sex. Some worked in the local massage parlors. He has a spelling error that he puts a low CAC but he means local massage parlors. Most in their mid 20s. There is only press stories told my strippers of me buying my girlfriends from Slovakia from her parents. His grammar is terrible. Girls under 15 all made up to get press. FBI puts a task force together title Operation Leap Year to investigate my personal massage activity nuts, interviews, my chiropractor, medical info, etc. Then he goes, and there's a redacted bit here, but the assumption here is he's talking about Virginia Giuffre, who was the first accuser to go forward, to come out, to come forward. And she said, and I think this is Virginia Giuffre, worked at Mar? A Lago. Trump knew of it and came to my house many times during that period. The testimony of the houseman, John Alessi, confirmed it. Speaking of Trump, now, he says he never got a massage. Abe Grossman, a friend of mine, ran into financial difficulty with assisted living homes. His home was listed at $45 million with no takers. For months on end, he and I agreed to a price of $30 million. His wife, who they black out her name, ends up going to jail for lying on the bankruptcy trustee. Lying to the bankruptcy trustee about her jewelry. This is in the summer of 04, meaning 2004. And then he says, I became the stocking horse bidder at 36 million, I. E. If someone bid higher, I would receive a fee. And this is where we get back to Trump and the very expensive painting. Because now this is the same guy involved in the house. Okay, here we go. Trump buys the house at the telephone auction. Only Me, Trump and his friend Pulte, the developer Pulte, who's now the guy who is referring Lisa Cook, Tish James and others. He comes from the Pulte real estate development fortune. That's the same guy referring all these people for mortgage fraud. Pulte. So he's the third person in this transaction. So he says only me, Trump and his friend Pulte, the developer apparently knew about it. He quickly puts it on the market. Trump for $125 million serves the purpose of a justification for a high sale later and no one will touch it. Is it bought in the name of Trump Properties? It is bought in the name of Trump Properties llc. No idea who owns it or what else it. And then he puts in quotation marks. Owns, turn on my fan. Three years later, 08, he sells it to this guy Rybuliev for approximately $100 million. He should have had a 50 million plus capital gain. He tells people and press he spent 20 to 30 million to fix it up. That would justify a reduction in capital gains. Key question, how did he report the sale if he did it all on his.08 tax return? He has no money when he buys the house. His business model is putting his name on real estate developments and he gets a fee for using his name. The hotel biz is just that. Someone else buys the hotel hoping to make a profit from its operation and eventual sale. Trump put his name on it and get a 2% fee, Red Grammar and maybe a piece of the profit, if any, on sale. He touts the project as his, just as his current financial statements on file as president. He lists his quote unquote income. He puts that in quotes as the gross receipts. He puts gross in all caps of the clubs with no expenses deducted. Not his personal revenue. That is the Doral Golf Club loses money every year. It pays out more than it takes in, but he lists the revenue as his income. Then he puts in all caps. Amazing. So it does seem like Jeffrey Epstein was keeping notes on what Trump was doing in his business and sending those notes to himself. Why? I don't know. Why was Jeffrey Epstein so interested in what Donald Trump was doing financially to the point where he sent himself a letter and he responds to his own email that he sends to himself on February 1st. On February 1st, 2001, he sends this letter and then he forwards the letter to Michael Wolf. The letter that I that he sent to himself, he sends it to himself first, it's from Jeffrey Epstein to Jeffrey Epstein. And then he forwards the letter to Michael Wolf and what he says in the forward. Have fun. Michael Wolf, remember, advised Jeffrey Epstein In 2016, you got something on Trump, hold onto it and use it as leverage when you need it. This is the February before he gets indicted. He gets indicted in July. And he is forwarding what sure looks like at least his interpretation of receipts about Donald Trump's business dealings and about this transaction. Because remember, we've been told that what made them fall out was this home where now he's explaining it where he had a friend that was down on his luck. He offers to buy the house. Trump beats him to it. Only he, Pulte and Epstein, the three of them, Trump, Pulte and Epstein, the only ones who know about this. The guy's wife gets in trouble for lying on the bankruptcy forms and he needs to sell a house. Trump buys it and flips it to the same Russian that's buying expensive art and flipping it. There's some weird stuff, and it seems like Jeffrey Epstein kind of knew weird stuff about Trump, right? It's weird. It's just weird. I don't know what to make of it, and I need to read through more, but it's very interesting. And so my question, it's all weird and creepy, right? But with all of this, to me, what I wonder, reading through all of the stuff that I've been reading today is did Jeffrey Epstein have something on Donald Trump? Like something really concrete on him? Because all of that is about his finances and stuff he's buying and art, he's buying and selling and downsy, did he have something more on him? I mean, why, after all of the decades when he was raping and trafficking girls and getting away with it and still being toasted by the high and mighty, why was he suddenly brought down in July of 2019 by Trump's own Justice Department when he was literally still referring high clients to JP Morgan? What changed? Why the whiny email in February and then in May? He's still talking about how to leverage sort of the Rush relationship. What's going on with that relationship? Were they enemies? Were they friends? Were they now enemies? What was his tack on Donald Trump? What did he think he was going to get out of Donald Trump, out of the relationship he used to have with Donald Trump? And why was Trump feeling so free to court Putin in Russia after getting rid of Comey? And I'm sorry, why is he trying to get Comey indicted now? Epstein wasn't just some ordinary billionaire donor. He was leveraging his knowledge of Trump with other billionaires around the world and to Michael Wolff. And Trump responded by betraying a country that Epstein heavily favored, namely Israel, with the Russians. I don't know about you, but it does make me wonder, could Jeffrey Epstein have been trying to blackmail Trump? Could he have had the goal of blackmailing Trump? Did Comey uncover something about that relationship that is the reason why Trump is so keen to prosecute him now? Is that why he fired him? Is that why Bill Barr wrote to Trump begging to be his attorney general, knowing that he could solve this Jeffrey Epstein problem, that he would rid him of this meddlesome pedophile? I mean, there's some real intrigue here that goes all the way back to the fact that in the 1980s, Trump was alleged by some in the kind of intell adjacent world. We used to have people on my weekend show that talked about the allegations that Trump was a Russian asset. People at the time believed that Donald Trump and Ivana Trump, his first wife, who was from Czechoslovakia, was like, turned by the Kremlin, you know, or, I'm sorry, by the kgb, like way back when they first were married. That's just an allegation. Trump has never admitted to that, but he definitely seems sweet on Russia. And allegedly he was urged by them at the time because they knew he was a needy businessman who flattery would work on. He was just the kind of person the Kremlin would love to target. Malcolm Nance used to say this all the time, but he didn't. And they would urge him, you should run for president, but he didn't actually do it. He threatened to do it in 2012, but he only did it in 2016. And it was very clear that at that time, Russia was determined to. To help him win at all costs, because if anything, we knew Hillary Clinton was a deeply anti Russia war hawk. And so getting Trump in seems to be very important to the Russians. That's why we have the Mueller report. But the challenge for them was that Donald Trump was not a perfect candidate. He had all these allegations from women, 26 accusers. Plus he had that lawsuit at the time, which no one knew how that was going to go. But someone filed a lawsuit naming Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, saying that she was raped at 13 by them, which, of course, Trump denies. But this was filed the year he's running for president. Donald Trump winds up paying off Stormy Daniels that same year to try to hide the allegations of that affair. All of that had to be quieted down so that Donald Trump could become president. And if you're Russia You've got to get over all of those hurdles to make sure he gets in, because for whatever reason, you prefer him over Hillary Clinton. I also, having read through all this stuff, I want to know what did Trump take home from the White House in terms of classified documents? Like, what did he take? What was he going to do with whatever he took? What was he looking for? What was in those boxes he called so precious? Why was he so determined to have them? Why did he hide them in his bathroom? Why did he hide them in his ballroom rather than putting them in an archive somewhere or some special place where you would put precious documents? I mean, he did put some things that he thought were precious to him on display at his golf clubs. So why didn't he do that with whatever this was? Why weren't they in some special file? Why are they in the bathroom in boxes? Why were they so hurriedly taken? Why was Donald Trump. And why do we have, like, a ringer judge that kind of made that case go away? Aileen. What's her last name? Judge Aileen Cannon. Aileen Cannon. Like, why did that. That case seemed to be really important. It just, poof, went away. Right? And now why is Trump trying to, like, prosecute Jack Smith and James Comey? Why did he pardon Rudy Giuliani and everyone involved in January 6th? Why was he so determined to stay in office after he lost? Why was he so determined to stay in office that he was willing to try to overthrow the government? He doesn't seem to enjoy the job of being president. He doesn't work hard. He spends most of his time golfing. But he seems really determined to be president again. Why? To stay in office. Why? Why was Mike Johnson, by the way, so determined to keep Trump in the White House? And Mike Johnson, who was the leading House member pushing to overturn the election and who now seems daggone determined to suppress the Epstein files for some reason, which, by the way, those 23,000 emails or whatever the Republicans released, that is a small portion of what's out there. And they really tried to find things with the word Clinton in them. But the stuff with Clinton in it isn't really that damning. It's stuff you already knew, but they really tried. Y' all heard that Great Britain is no longer sharing intel with us. I mean, there. It's because, obviously, of Donald Trump murking fishermen in the Caribbean Sea and in the Pacific. They don't want any part of it. They don't want to be implicated in war crimes or in crimes against humanity. I believe Columbia is also. They're just not sharing intel with us. The Atlantic sort of intel. They're like, nope, we're not sharing intel with you, but why would you. Donald Trump gave Lavrov classified data about Israel in a closed Oval Office where there was nobody in there, no Americans in there. These are just things that I wonder, you know, these are the things that I wonder about, rather than, I don't know, questioning whether Jeffrey Epstein was actually a real child molester. Megan. Because I think there are more. There are pressing questions, because he clearly was a child molester, but he was also more than that. He was also doing, like a weird sort of soft diplomacy thing until suddenly he was, like, sending intel on Trump to himself. And then he gets indicted and then he gets dead within a month of the indictment. He didn't live even a month. It does make you wonder if that death was really by his own hand, because he was a problem. He was a problem. No matter how you. No matter how you look at it, he was a problem. And he kept talking about Trump. He kept talking about the scandals involving him and Trump. He kept bringing up. He himself is bringing up the lawsuit. He's talking about him. He's a problem. He knows things about Trump, even if they're not friends anymore and they fell out. They used to be friends. They were friends for a really long time. Trump used to say, you know, he's a great guy, really fun to be with. I know he likes women on the younger side. And there's a lot of Republicans who seem to like women on the younger side. Some of them aren't even women. They're just girls. They're kids. Let's play this other guy who was involved in the. He. He shows up, too. He's somebody that Jeffrey Epstein knew, and he seems to have some thoughts about things.
