B (3:13)

Women.

A (3:14)

It's a pleasure because the room is fun. Like, you and I have both being comedians, we've delved into the, you know, the manosphere Rogan verse world, where you're at a show where it's that audience and that laugh isn't as fun as the laugh you're getting in this special. If.

B (3:33)

If you.

A (3:33)

I don't know how you feel. True.

B (3:36)

I. Okay, so I feel a couple things. One, my audience is shifted a little bit too. Like, when I was first really breaking out, it was very teacher heavy because people were coming thinking I was gonna do this wholesome teacher shtick. But I think after being on the road now for like seven years, consistently, I've really started to gain the audience that I'm speaking to, which is still a lot of women, but it's about 50, 50 women and gay guys, which. That is the perfect audience. And it was so funny when we were editing the special, because I. I'm. When I got the final edit, I sent it to my entire team, every single person individually, and I said, I need all of your critical feedback on the audio. That's it. And they all said it was great. I was listening back and I was like, somebody's gonna pull some bullshit and say, this is a laugh track.

A (4:27)

No, no, no, no. The reason I didn't care is cause

B (4:31)

I was in the room. Like, the room was electric.

A (4:35)

It was not a laugh track audience.

B (4:37)

I was. So, yeah, not a laugh track at all.

A (4:40)

It's noticeable how fun the audience is, but it's not in a way where it feels like it's not connected to the jokes you're doing. And I. We've seen that. That's the crazy part about this. We are amongst grifters. We know people who are. Do I see these videos? There was a woman that I saw, she was putting laugh tracks on everything. And then now she's like a normal. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, yeah. She's on the road doing shows. You're like, it worked like, Jared, are

B (5:08)

you seeing this AI stand up situation that's happening?

A (5:12)

Maybe I have. But I didn't know it.

B (5:15)

I don't know the name of the comic. I should have got her name, but she keeps posting on like Reddit and she's made some Instagrams about it. And there's this other Instagram account that's full AI of this goth girl, okay? Goth girl is taking her. Her jokes, her body movements, her everything. And it's this goth girl delivering the jokes. But the actual comic is like, yo, this is my shit stolen. This is the footage of me doing it on stage. And she's putting like the side by side. And you can see they're both doing the same mannerisms, but it's the girl's voice. And I'm just like, whoa. When it started infiltrating into stand up, that's when I was like, this is. This needs to be tamed.

A (6:01)

Not. No, listen, my. The picture I make where I put my mom, you know, in a. In a bagel shop to make fun of her, to like, with her is not. When it's gone too far. Now it's gone too far. Yeah, no, it's right, right. It's scary. It's also like, you know, you and I found a place, a little corner of the Internet, and like, I don't think, you know, and I. And I, you know, I can't speak for you, but I'm happy with it. I'm happy with the audience that comes out. I'm happy to find more people. I'm happy to chip away at this. This stone, so to speak, and keep working on finding more people to come to Jared Island. I'm sure you got to feel the same way. But then you see people, especially the Internet, which is the wild west, you know, there's gold in these there hills, you know, so people come here with, you know, intentions that they want to skip the line or, you know, take a shortcut, and it's enraging. It's. It's just like, wow, what's the goal for you to bomb in Tempe and. And people walk out and they go, I fucked up. And now you've got what, a couple thousand dollars and now you move on the next city to fuck with, you know, to ruin. Stand up for, you know, 200 more crazy.

B (7:15)

On the flip side side of that too. And I know you'll know a couple of these people were probably thinking of some of the same people. It is so cool, I think, to watch someone build a little bit of an Internet presence because they're pretty funny, then take it to the stage, bomb Their dick off.

A (7:31)

Yeah.

B (7:32)

But then want it so bad that they actually start getting into, like, the craft of writing it, the craft of learning the cadence and, like, becoming a very good stake standup. I think that I put so much respect on people who do that.

A (7:47)

Well, you have to like it. I agree. It's a lot of respect because you got to go, oh, I like this now. I want to be good at it so that I don't ruin it. You know? Like, I, I like this enough where I want people to walk away. You know, it's important to us to have people walk away and go, that was a great show. I got my money's worth. Like, and we, you know, comic standups get this reputation of being not hard workers. Like, I, it's the total opposite. Totally. Everyone's grinding their ass off. And no, this special, especially, like, I'm watching this, I'm like, it's killer. It's funny. It sounds great. It looks great. You know, you look great. You got, and you have a perspective of like, okay, I just received my baby and I, I, it's got to be so weird, you know? And how are you? And, and, and you talk about your husband. Your husband can do everything. You, you claimed that you can't do anything. Like, how is your husband home with the baby right now? Are they, what, what's, what are they doing with the baby right now?

B (8:49)

There's, there's a couple things too. I knew I was sitting on a little bit of a. Like, comedy is all about how unique you can make your voice and like, what you're talking about. And there's a lot of gay comedians and there's a lot of dad comedians. So I was very excited to bring this perspective of gay dad comedian. The truth is, is when you watch the special, I'm a little bit self deprecating because I'm the neurotic creative for sure. And my husband's just this hot shot who can math his way through anything, and he is home right now. But the beauty is that both of our parents are retired. And also in the special, I talk about my parents are moving to Seattle to be closer to really their grandchild. Yeah, they're, they're, they're coming, they're coming down, they're coming, coming over.

A (9:35)

It's the most only child thing I've ever heard. They're like, pack it up.

B (9:41)

One of my favorite jokes on the special is I'm an only child, so my mom's obsessed with me. She calls it love. The doctors call it munchausen.

A (9:47)

By proxy I saw the joyous gray it's so true.

B (9:51)

It's so true. They are obsessed with me. They are obsessed.

A (9:55)

I mean, I know your parents a little bit just from you, you know, I met your dad at a bar.

B (10:03)

Peek behind the curtain. Jared met my dad before I met Jared, we were both performing in Boston at two different venues. I was at the club, Jared's at the Wilbur, and my dad's drinking across the part from Jared. Here's him talking about stand up. This is so my dad, dude. I think he walked up. Dude was like, my son's a Stand up.

A (10:21)

And you were like, okay. I'm like, great. Where are they at? You know, like. And he's like, you know, what was it?

B (10:31)

Laugh. Boston laughs. Yeah.

A (10:33)

Okay. They must be for real. Like, it is funny, though, like, especially talking about the Internet and comedy. Like, you know, again, your little corner. I'm like, who's this guy? You know, do it. Doing a different thing. Doing, you know, and. And being funny. So they're moving to Seattle and now you have like a team of boomers, which, like, nothing sounds more horrific ever. That is going to help you with the baby and tell you what to do. Is that kind of. That's the sick.

B (11:02)

So here the thing is, is they're all being so unbelievably chill. They're. They're taking care of the baby right now while Morgan's at work, which Morgan's parents are there taking care of the baby right now, and Morgan's at work. And our parents will switch off. So my parents will come. His parents will come. They're all retired, so they have the time to do it. And the one thing that I wasn't expecting is how unbelievable it is to see your parents and your in laws interact with your child and to watch them be able to, like, do all this stuff again that you don't remember because you were a baby and you're seeing it choke you up. Yeah, it'll choke you up. Like, I've never seen my dad softer in my life. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where was that asshole that used to just, like, boss me around the house all the time, right? I don't see him. I see this guy crying, holding a baby. That's what I see.

A (11:59)

Because when the light turns on, you know, you're 13 and you want to, like, go out and you need a ride to the movies and they're being a dick. Like, that's the memory, right? You know?

B (12:10)

That's the memory. Yeah, yeah.

A (12:12)

Him Rocking you to bed.

B (12:15)

It's so wholesome and it's so great. And because of that, we're, we're so lucky. Like, my parents get along with Morgan. I get along with my in laws so much. So when they are with us helping out with the baby, we kind of just like let them do their thing. Like there's no, like, we're not, we're not super uptight about it. Like, make sure you're going doing all of the shit. It's like, nah, like just keep, keep them alive.

A (12:38)

I know. I never understood that whole like parent wanting it done one way. I, I guess like I'm saying this with no kid. So like, I don't know. But like.

B (12:49)

Right.

A (12:50)

It always seemed like, what an exhausting argument. Like just let them care for it whatever way they care for it. Yeah, they, you know, like whatever. They, they put WD40 on it. Fine. I don't know why they do that, but like that must have worked for them. I'm here, you know, Like, I never understood that fight. We have to do it this way. And it's like I get, you know,

B (13:14)

like that is part of it though. Like, my mom, for example, is hyper concerned that the baby is cold all the time. He has to have clothes on, he has to have socks on. She will bundle him up like four or five layers. But science has shown us now over time that the phrase is cold babies cry, but hot babies die. Cause your baby's not supposed to get too warm. My mom came in the room sobbing. She's like, he is so cold. I was like, ma', am, it is 70 degrees in here. It's cold in here to you because the only thing you've had to eat today is a GLP one get it together. It's just, you gotta teach them those things. Along the way.

A (13:57)

There's new sign.

B (13:58)

Like, we got parents. Yeah. We used to drive in the back without a seat belt. Remember that? Like, come on.

A (14:03)

Right. Like they were literally for us to get here, you know, over time. This is true of any generation. There's a little bit. Mr. Magoo, you know, like there's a little bit like, you know, you know, walking along and, and luckily getting to the next steel beam that's coming underneath that like, lets you keep walking, you know, like they, yeah, whatever they did, they got lucky. We all, you know, we're all lucky to be here on earth today. We just didn't realize how lucky we were because we didn't see how stupid our parents were taking care of us.

B (14:35)

Yes, Absolutely. And go back and watch some old movies from the 80s. And like, I watched Parenthood with Steve Martin recently. Dude, the car seats that they were putting kids in, holy sheep. They're sitting forward. It's just a lap bar. Like they're getting in a roller coaster. I'm just like, oh, my God, the baby could open the door, just fall out. It's crazy.

A (15:00)

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B (17:29)

Medicate me. That's how serious it is. Yes, it's like it is. It was traumatic. Like, there I was a teacher for 10 years. Jared. That's 10 years of names that were just ruined. And I remember I would meet a kid, I'd be like, I love your name. And then they were just horrible. And it is gone out the window. Never more to be seen by me. And it was crazy hearing my husband throw those names out there, the ones that I was for sure not going to fly with. And I had to nip it immediately. Like, not that. No, we're not having a dean. Will never have a dean. Don't bring it up again.

A (18:12)

Do you think those parents know? Like, how do you, like, what makes, like, a kid this, like, monster to a teacher so much that their name haunts them forever? And the parents, like, just don't know. Like, do you ever think about that? Like, when you're a baby, it's too early, but, like, it's like, wow, this kid leaves the house. Perfect angel. I think they're great. Like, what? Because it's the parent that's delusional, not the kid.

B (18:44)

I'll say this. The number one correlation that I always made to a kid who was. I won't say bad, but just difficult. And why a parent who always says yes? If there were these parents who were constantly saying yes, constantly doing this gentle parenting bullshit, like, it is okay to get a little stern with your kid. It is okay to set firm, hard, consistent boundaries. But if you're constantly allowing your kid to run the show and then they go to school for the first time and they don't run the show anymore, that's making it harder for the kid, you know?

A (19:23)

Right, right, right, right. It's a total planet they're traveling to.

B (19:29)

Totally, totally. And that's why kindergarten was so fun. Fun for me to teach. Because it was their first time at school ever. So the majority sure, will learn how to read, maybe if you're lucky. But your biggest job as a kindergarten teacher is to teach them how to school, which that's a fun part, but also very difficult because especially the ones who didn't go to preschool. Holy shit. They don't know anything.

A (19:54)

So you're teaching them, like, a structure. Just like, hey, get here at this time and nap time at this time. And.

B (20:01)

And it's not about you. Like, the biggest thing, too, is kids would just. You'll be in the middle of teaching. Just get up. Just get up and walk. And it's like, yo, I'm literally talking to you. You know what I mean? And you gotta. That's the shit. And the kids who never had parents kind of like, say, this is how it goes. Those kids are the kids who are never gonna listen to you. And it's funny when they're little. Cause they don't think they're doing anything wrong. They're just like, this is how I live my life. What are you fucking doing? Right? The older they get and they still have those habits. It's like, yo, you gotta get there.

A (20:38)

Okay, so we're gonna play a game in a little bit, but I want to make sure people go watch the special dad on arrival. It's hilarious. You're gonna love it at Joe Underscore Dombrowski now. Okay, have you gotten weirdness? What's the weirdest thing? And I, I'm sure people mean, mean well, but you're with your husband, you're holding a baby. Is there, like, do people just assume you're just two guys holding a baby? Like, is there, like, I would think that the thing that I would get is that no one thinks I can do it. Like, my whole life, every woman that's ever dealt with me. And I think men generally don't get too offended by that. Like, but I, I, I would wonder, do you get, like, women, like, basically, like, telling you, like, the, you know how to do things before you can even show that you know how to do them?

B (21:33)

Like, this is the thing. First of all, my husband is hyper masculine. Like, if you were to see and talk to him, whatever, you'd be like, this man's straight. So when we're together and he's doing it, they're kind of like, okay, these guys could be brothers. And then I talk and the jig is up. But they definitely have opinions, and I get it. But the funniest thing is when we were doing all of our reading before the baby was born, and I was doing a lot of reading on gay dads specifically, it is very common for gay dads to have, like, a woman interject in a way that's like, oh, I'll help you until the mom gets here. That, like, I'll hold, I'll hold the baby if it's crying, it's like, no, stranger, you're not holding our baby. Really? But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very, very common. Very common. It has yet to really happen to us. But, yeah, I.

A (22:33)

It's just funny to me because, like, you people do mean well, but they're being like, crazy. Like, they don't even realize they're public. It just came over me, would think,

B (22:43)

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think what's funny too is, like, the questions that people ask. Like, wholeheartedly serious. Like, people will say, so did you buy some sort of, like, breast contraption to wear while you're feeding?

A (23:02)

No.

B (23:03)

Right? You literally thought I was, like, strapping on a breastplate plate to feed as it looks up at my beard. Let's just confuse this baby even more

A (23:13)

while we're at it.

B (23:14)

Like, no.

A (23:17)

Well, you know, it's funny. It's like if you're seeing something you've never seen before, which, you know, some people, that's the case. You know, they're. They're seeing. You know, we. I always talk about this with stand up. Like, we deal with variables. So we're. Variables are normal to us. If we see something different, we make jokes about it, we call it out, We. We find a way to, like, make the room happy. Some people have no ability for that. They have no ability to, like, see something they've never seen before and go, how do I make this interaction normal and safe and wonderful for everyone involved. They just don't know how to do that. Right.

B (23:57)

And that's the part that's alarming, is how many times people won't even, like, think about their action before they do it. Like, that will come and say things like, so are you the girl? It's like, well, first of all, yes. And second of all, why are you asking me this?

A (24:15)

What are you doing in New York? What's the plan while you're there?

B (24:20)

So the show that you did a couple years ago, my straight friends, we run at the Comedy Store every month. We've started bringing it to New York like once a quarter. And we're at Bell House tomorrow.

A (24:32)

That's great.

B (24:33)

Came home to do a bunch of press today and then Bellhouse tomorrow.

A (24:36)

And so the whole. I've done the show. It's great. It's basically like, do these straight guys know or straight people know about the gay world?

B (24:48)

Right. Yeah. So the comic will come up and do a set, and then we'll quiz you on some sector of gay culture you gotta come back on again.

A (24:57)

I would love to. I thought I did. I think I did well. If I remember correctly, you did do

B (25:02)

well, but the venue was ass. Where were we even? We were at the top of a hotel, the Thompson.

A (25:08)

It was a weird venue. The Bell House is perfect for that show. Like, it's gonna be great.

B (25:14)

The. The Bell House. We did it at the Bell House in the fall, so now we're back in the spring. It was electric. Electric. It's nice to have a nice. It's a, this we're building, you know, this thing is really becoming something now. And there's definitely a, it's a theater show, you know, like there's elements involved. So to do it at the Bellhouse where we have more ability to like dig into that tech aspect.

A (25:37)

Right, right, right.

B (25:38)

It thrives. Yeah. Plus the New York crowds. Dude. Unreal, right? Unreal. So cult.

A (25:44)

How do you like living in Seattle? Are you living in the city? Is it like it took a while

B (25:50)

yet we're living in the city of Seattle. It took a while to get adjusted now. I love it, but it's cold. Personality wise. It's a cold city. It's hard to break into. It's hard to make friends. They're not really an outgoing people. And as an outsider, it's tough.

A (26:12)

So I did shows in Seattle and Vancouver. I love both of those cities as places. It seems like it's a tough existence in Seattle. Like this is my opinion as someone who, I don't, I don't, I, I hate the people that do the thing well, you know that you can tell their, their political affiliation by how hard they are in a city. Like how, you know how angry they are about what a city look. And I'm like, I think that it's a great city. It's beautiful, it's fun. Every city has its problems. It just felt like people were on edge. Like, it felt like, dude, like I, I in Seattle, specifically Vancouver, not Vancouver. Canadian on edge is different than American on edge. It feels like you're spending a lot of money to live in Seattle while also having to spend energy on making everyone on do it. Being correct in everything you do, which feels like is exhausting. Is that kind of what it. Because I remember I went. It just felt like everyone, and I don't mean this, I mean this is going to sound horrific. It felt like everyone in Seattle, no, no matter what gender affiliation was on their period. It felt like everyone was like legitimately like had a headache, had some cramps, not feeling well, didn't get a lot of sleep and any amount of talking

B (27:37)

to them and hadn't seen the sun in a month. Yeah, right.

A (27:40)

And they're going to be short with you. Like. And I, I, I mean that in the kindest, most, you know, like I, I was at a bagel place. There was a great, it was really good And I walked up to the counter, I'm like, how you doing today? They go, not now. I was like, okay, like. And that was a general demeanor.

B (28:02)

Next time you're in Seattle, I'll show you around. Here's the thing though, and you're gonna agree with me more than ever too. One of my favorite places to perform is Providence Comedy Connection. Those audience, they are mob wives. Make me fucking laugh. Bring your A shit. Do not give me this peasant change bullshit. And if you're gonna do crowd work, tell me, tie it back. Don't just come here talking to us like they're making you work for it. And I love that. It's hard.

A (28:34)

Animals. And they don't. And they don't think they're animals. That's the funniest part. Like, I remember telling Corey at the Connection, love Cory. I. I go, I go, yeah. People here are like, wild. He's like, really? I've never even noticed.

B (28:47)

I'm like, okay, yeah, that's just. And, but the reason I love it is cuz it's hard. Seattle's hard for to totally different reason. And it's this. Before they laugh and you can watch it happen, they look around for approval. Is everyone laughing? I'll laugh at that. Is this guy over here who, who looks like he could hire me one day laughing? Okay, I'll. I'll let him laugh out. But until the room is on the same page, you're not getting it from one, which is some bullshit. Laugh at what you find funny. Don't laugh at what they find funny. That's why comedy is amazing, because it's so subjective. It's unique to the individual taste. Now the show, my straight friends, is we started that in Seattle and it took us a while, but we've broken them. And it's almost like we have their approval now. And we joke about what we joke about in the way that we joke about it now. And they're giving it to us a little more liberally now. And we're like, okay, this took a minute, but now you're here with. And it's. It feels really good. But. But I know exactly what you're saying about the city. I know exactly what you're saying. It's not. It's not a good look.

A (29:56)

It was tough. But I, yeah, I do love Seattle. I'm like, honestly, I was more of a coma.

B (30:01)

We live in a painting. Oh, I love it. Yeah. Tacoma is a totally different vibe.

A (30:06)

Okay, let's play a game. And everyone should go watch Joe's Special. It is called dad on arrival. Okay, you're going to. I'm going to give you a dad. The. The thing you have to do as a dad to a new baby. And you're gonna tell me the dad part, the boring part, and the daddy part. Tell me what's dad and daddy.

B (30:29)

Okay. What's. What's the definition of the daddy part?

A (30:32)

Daddy is like. This is the fun part about it. This is like, what? This is the. The fun part. And then the dad part is like. This is like kind of the. Yeah. To do this. Yeah. Okay. Feeding. What's dad. What's dad about feeding?

B (30:51)

The feeding. The dad part is the cleanup. Feeding is messy. Our son's starting to eat food. Food now. And it just. He doesn't know how to get it in. And you just gotta let him make a mess because you gotta let them experiment with their hands and everything and do it. The daddy part is. Is while watching them, you forget that they act. They're just a little potato, right? They're a nothing human. But they have taste buds. They. They can sense flavor. They'll tell you immediately if they don't. Like. That's the daddy part is watching their reaction to their individual taste. It's cute. It's so cute. And then also when they start to grow up a little bit, they'll reach for their bottle and just. It's so cute.

A (31:38)

It's. It's funny because that's got to be interesting to see it go from, like, animal to human, you know, like you're like, oh, now you're reaching for bottle. You know you want that. Like, that is a human it.

B (31:52)

That is insane too, because it's just a little ball of meat that does nothing. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, shit, you're looking at me. Okay. Making them laugh. Oh, especially as a comic. That's cool.

A (32:05)

Gotta be a huge, huge win.

B (32:08)

Huge, huge.

A (32:09)

Changing dad and Daddy.

B (32:13)

There's nothing dad. Daddy about changing. There's nothing daddy about it at all. Especially if it's in the middle of the night, you're half baked, you're just stumbling into this room. There's been a shit explosion, and you just gotta, like, make it happen. There it is. It's pure, 100% dad. On arrival, you have to make it work and make it work. Now.

A (32:41)

Flying.

B (32:45)

We have flown with him twice now, and he's been alarmingly amazing. The daddy part of flying is. It's unbelievable how happy a baby will make people. People just look at him and you can Just see them loosen up a little bit, drop their shoulders, just have a minute of an interaction with him. And that's really cool to watch. People find a little bit of catharsis just watching a baby laugh. The dad part is I can be a little bit of a stressy Jessie sometimes, and the logistics of flying with a baby is unbelievable. Tack on three more hours to what you're used to. Okay. You never know what's going to happen. You have to have everything ready to go.

A (33:33)

It's like. Like when I. It's like going to the beach, but on steroids. Like, did you bring the suntan lotion? Did you bring the chairs? Did you bring the towel? Oh, my God, I forgot the.

B (33:43)

Yeah, everyone travel dad now, too. Like, you see that stereotype? I am that dad who's, like, in the TSA line. Do you have your pre check? Get your backpack ready to go. Take your water bottle out.

A (33:54)

That's me, Joe Dumowski. Pleasure to have you. Everyone go watch the Special D. It is on YouTube. You're going to love it. I'm Jared Freed. Every Wednesday, we're going to chitchat Wednesday. Back next week, boom.