The JTrain Podcast – CHIT CHAT WEDNESDAY: Almost Went On a Chinese Dating Show! ft. Turner Sparks
Episode Date: April 1, 2026
Host: Jared Freid
Guest: Turner Sparks
Episode Overview
This episode of The JTrain Podcast brings comedian Turner Sparks for a wide-ranging conversation spanning Jewish and Chinese cultural overlaps, stand-up comedy careers (particularly “clean” comedy), Turner's life in China, and the quirks of moving back to the U.S. after over a decade abroad. The episode is filled with warm anecdotes, cultural observations, and a behind-the-curtains look at both comedy and cross-cultural living. Jared and Turner laugh about their families, differences and similarities across cultures, and answer “Big in China” trivia about fast food, TV, dating shows, and more.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Jewish & Chinese Culture: Food, Humor, and Community
- Chinese Cooking Classes for Jewish Couples
[01:44] Turner shares that his Chinese wife teaches cooking classes, predominantly attended by Jewish couples, in their home.
[02:13] Jared asks why it’s mostly Jewish people, and Turner jokes his wife is “becoming Jewish” while he “became Chinese.”- Turner: “She absolutely loves the Jewish culture. She’s like, Jewish people, they're so funny... And they love her. And so you kind of just love whoever loves you, you know?”
- Why Jews Love Chinese Food
[02:49] Jared and Turner riff about the Christmas tradition of Jewish families eating at Chinese restaurants, with Jared theorizing it's because Chinese food is dairy-free—a requirement for kosher traditions—and because Chinese restaurants are open on Christmas. - Chinese Attitudes on Religion
[04:06] Turner discusses how China’s Communist government “stamped out religion a little bit” for 80+ years, seeing it as political competition.- Turner: “Our [American] leaders look at religion as almost a conduit to them...in China, the leaders look at it as competition.”
- Comparative Hospitality
[21:23]&[21:35] Turner notes deep similarities between Chinese warmth and Jewish community:- “Chinese people are so funny and so warm... Everything’s about food and bringing you into their house.”
- On Chinese New Year, “It’s unfathomable that you wouldn’t be around your family… Any family I came across was like, ‘You have to come to our house.’”
2. Comedy, Identity, and “Clean” vs. Edgy Material
- Turner's Comedy Career
[05:11]&[06:54] Turner’s new special on Dry Bar (“Buttoned Up and Unhinged”) is discussed. Turner has always been clean, not for religious reasons, but as his natural comedic style.- Turner: “I just don’t really talk about it. And also, ideally, you don’t know unless you’re looking for it.”
[07:08] Jared and Turner explain the business angle: clean comics get more diverse gigs (corporate, religious, country club, etc.), though comics avoid looking overtly “business-minded.”
[08:36] They both agree clean should be “invisible”—not the first thing the audience notices.
[10:45] Turner: “I just talk about my life and my wife and my parents… It would be bizarre if [suddenly] I’m like, ‘So anyway, Trump…’” [12:00] Humorous self-awareness: - Turner: “I just call myself Chinese, so I think that's pretty brave. Pretty brave in this day and age to identify as Chinese when you’re a white guy.”
- [12:06] Jared: “Yeah, that’s a brave turn.”
- Turner: “I just don’t really talk about it. And also, ideally, you don’t know unless you’re looking for it.”
[07:08] Jared and Turner explain the business angle: clean comics get more diverse gigs (corporate, religious, country club, etc.), though comics avoid looking overtly “business-minded.”
- Performing for Specific Audiences
[17:19] Both discuss how to authentically connect with audience groups—whether Jewish or Mormon—with Turner leveraging his “grew up with Mormons” background for his Dry Bar set; Jared shares experiences with Jewish crowds.
3. Life as an Expat in China & Returning Home
- The Expat Experience
[19:08-24:23] Turner reminisces about living in China for 12 years, noting it’s “such a wild fun place,” with “people so nice.” He dispels American fears about China.- Turner: “There should be no fear. It’s such a wild, fun place to live. People are so nice."
- Observations: rapid economic growth—e.g., the proliferation of cars and American-style malls ([23:35]), and the open embrace of Western brands.
- Cultural Attitudes Toward the U.S.
[22:26–23:47] Turner describes China’s optimism: for years, it felt like “an upstart... just winning and winning.” People didn’t see the U.S. as a rival, but as aspirational. - Moving Back to the U.S.
[29:42] Turner talks about the reverse culture shock after 12 years away—struggling with adult tasks, being ahead of the U.S. in tech, and “going back in time.”- “I remember not knowing how to, like, get a new bank account... so many things you learn between college and 34."
- [30:20] Notably, China’s early adoption of QR codes and cashless payments left the U.S. looking “analog.”
4. Big In China! – Turner Explains China’s “Biggests”
- Biggest Fast Food:
[31:29] Turner: “KFC. Kentucky Fried Chicken’s enormous in China.”- [32:29] “There were years... [with] a KFC opened once a day in that calendar year.”
- Top seller: The fried chicken sandwich on a bun with mayonnaise and lettuce.
- Biggest Scripted TV Show:
[33:55] For 40-somethings and older, it’s Growing Pains (dubbed in Chinese and widely syndicated).- [35:36] “Everyone called him Boner... Chinese people not knowing, necessarily, the translation of that.”
- Biggest Game Show:
[37:11] Turner describes a mega-popular Chinese dating show—the equivalent of “Singled Out”—that Irish comic Des Bishop appeared on and instantly became famous.- Turner almost went on the show—“I'm engaged to your niece!”, but his wife’s uncle urged him: “No, it’s for TV. Who cares?”
- [38:32] Turner himself appeared on a low-budget local dating game show featuring amusing, junior-high style challenges (balloon competitions, etc.).
- Biggest Alcohol:
[39:44] Turner: “Baijiu. It’s probably 80 proof, 90 proof alcohol, made with sorghum. It’s sweet but pretty rough.”- Best mixer: “Pineapple juice.”
- Biggest Workout Trend:
[40:53–41:41] Turner: “Kung fu. Martial arts. I’m not even kidding… But really, Tai Chi is probably bigger: In the park, you’ll see grandmas and grandpas doing slow Tai Chi movements.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- [02:38] Turner: “She thinks she’s Jewish now. She absolutely loves the Jewish culture. She’s like, ‘Jewish people, they’re so funny. They’re so much funnier than everybody else, why are they so funny?’”
- [04:17] Turner (on government and religion): “Either you believe in them or you believe in me. Which one are we going with?”
- [07:08] Jared: “You gotta treat stand-up like a business without talking about it like a business.”
- [12:00] Turner: “I just call myself Chinese, so I think that's pretty brave… to identify as Chinese when you’re a white guy.”
- [23:47] Turner: “They didn’t see us as competition. It was almost like an upstart… just happy to be in the game.”
- [32:29] Turner: “There was a KFC opened once a day in that calendar year… In our city alone, there were 80 KFCs.”
- [38:01] Turner: “Somehow [Des Bishop] just finagled his way onto this show… if you went on it, you were just famous. You were just like a famous person.”
- [39:49] Turner (on Baijiu): “It doesn’t taste like anything, but it’s a clear… hard alcohol… There’s no way really to compare.”
- [41:03] Turner: “Tai chi is probably bigger [than martial arts]... you’ll see grandmas and grandpas in the park doing Tai chi.”
Fun, Relatable “Luxury Lounge” Complaint
- [42:36] Turner shares his comic “complaint” for Jared’s Luxury Lounge:
His CPA dad does his taxes for free, but “ropes” him into hour-long explanatory calls every year.- Jared [43:20]: “You don’t pay a prostitute for the sex. You pay a prostitute to leave after the sex is over—in the same way you pay an accountant... you don’t have to deal with any of this.”
Timestamps for Major Segments
- [01:24] Introduction to Turner Sparks and his experience in China.
- [02:13] Jewish couples and Chinese cooking classes.
- [04:06] Religious culture in China vs. U.S.
- [05:11] Dry Bar special and clean comedy careers.
- [09:53] Political comedy and honesty on stage.
- [12:12] Turner’s “Chinese identity.”
- [17:19] Performing for specific audiences (Mormon and Jewish).
- [19:08] Living in China as an expat.
- [23:35] Rapid modernization and Americanization in China.
- [29:42] Returning to America after 12 years.
- [31:23] Game: “Big in China”—fast food, TV, dating shows, alcohol, working out.
- [42:36] Luxury Lounge: Tax season with a CPA dad.
Tone
The episode is warm, humorous, a little irreverent, and filled with candid reflections. Both Jared and Turner blend personal stories, cultural observations, and playful jokes; Turner is self-deprecating, honest, and brings a unique, insider-outsider view of China and comedy alike.
Closing
Turner Sparks’ special, Buttoned Up and Unhinged, is streaming on Dry Bar.
- “It’s a special you can put on in your living room with your parents, with your friends and your... everybody.”
- Links in the episode bio.
Find Turner on social: @TurnerSparks
Closing invitation:
“Go follow Turner Sparks, go watch the special, super funny, you’ll love it. Link in the bio. Back next week—Boom!”
