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It's a mailbag. Munder, you got problems there? I'm gonna help you from the comfort of my chair. It's a mailbag. Monday. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. This is J Train Jared Freed coming to you live from Hilton Head, South, South Carolina. That's right, every Monday. It is a mail bag Monday. You, the listener, send an email. Me, the podcast, or the comedian, the friend, answer your email in an honest way that is meant to be funny, is meant to be introspective. I'm giving you some of me. It's meant to be thoughtful. It's in no way meant to, like, down you or make you feel bad. It's going to be the truth and the reason. Why would anyone come to me? I ask this question every day of my life. Why would you write to me? Well, I'm someone who you're trusting to be honest and not say things just to make me look good. Because that, a lot of advice is to make the advice give her look good. If you think about it, I'm not going to do that. I've made myself look pretty bad. I Pretty bad. I've just been honest. I've been a human like you, the listener or the viewer. So also, I don't have to make eye contact with you. So it's pretty easy to say these things into a computer screen as I'm reading your email. So we do need emails. We love these emails, but we like to have a treasure trove. We want to be able to, you know, get ahead and have emails at the ready. So I want you to send your email jtrain podcast, gmail.com. that's jtrain podcastmail.com. you can also DM us@j Train Podcast on Instagram. And if you're listening right now, why don't you pop up that. Pop out that phone, put it in your hand and add. Why don't you just follow the Instagram account? Do that right now for me. That's. Do me a favor, let's consider that payment. That's pay. That's payment because I am taping this. I'm looking out the window at the. The sea. I'm in Hilton Head Island. I'm looking. I'm here for a wedding. I'm looking at the pool and I'm at a. I'm. I got my balcony out here. I got upgraded thanks to my friends at Bonvoy. They're not really my friends, but I. I'm a Bonvoy, you know, app user. And I'm looking at the ocean, it's a beautiful day. And I said, you know what, Jared, let's tuck away. Let's go and do our 20 minutes so it's ready for the listeners on Monday. I wanted this to be ready for you on your phone. So in exchange, do two things. Follow on Instagram at J Train podcast and the YouTube channel. Every Saturday I'm putting out new stand up every Saturday every it's called Saturday night J Train and I got crowd work from all over this great country of ours. So YouTube.com jared freed@j train podcast. That's where you can DM us. You can send all any questions you want. Also j train podcast gmail.com that is all the announcements. That's not all because I got shows. San Jose, Pittsburgh, Huntsville, Alabama, Manchester, Connecticut, London, England, Stanford, Connecticut, Bloomington in Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm sorry I, I messed that one up every time. We'll get it one day. Brea, California Spokane, Washington, Denver, Colorado and then just added to the calendar. One of my fate, One of my probably my favorite city in the country. San Francisco, California. Coming back to Cobbs Comedy club in San Francisco. Kansas City, Missouri, Richmond, Virginia. Jared Free.com for tickets. Let's get to the email because I want to get back to this beach. It's a ten of a day sitting here 2:45 on a Friday. Friday wedding. That's right. One of my good friends from college getting married. We've got a big crew here. If you want to hear about the wedding, I'll be talking about it on the Patreon. That's every Friday coffee with J Train. I'll go through the stories from the week and this is one of the stories I'm going to talk about hanging with my friends at a college wedding. When you're 40, that'll be fun to talk about. I if you're, if you're wondering, well, what's on the Patreon now? I just had an episode come out today, comes out every Friday about opening for Jon Stewart. What's it like? How does that happen? What, what could how does Jared Freed end up opening for Jon Stewart? All those questions are answered on Patreon. Patreon. Com Jared Freed. Man, I am selling today. Whoo. I'm looking outside at the pool area. They also have the setup for the wedding. I'm looking at all the chairs set up. Outdoor wedding, the weather. Today's a 10. I made. I think I already said that. It's a 10. Love a 10. Here's our first email. Jared never thought I would Be reaching out like this, but here we are. Appreciate your unfiltered and raw perspective on how men think and have a bit of a doozy for you, man. Can you imagine if I describe. This is very nice of them to say that they appreciate my unfiltered and raw perspective on how men think and have a doozy for me. If I ever said that about myself, I would sound like the biggest dude. They don't sound like a douche. I would sound like a douche if I was like, oh, why do people email me because I'm raw. I give an unfiltered perspective like that. If you say that about yourself, if you say anything, if you say, if you call yourself raw or unfiltered, it, you better be a food. That is the douchiest way to describe yourself. Okay, I recently hooked up with a co worker that I work extremely close with. Okay, that is important. Sometimes these emails about co workers come in and it's like, well, we're like three people removed and we're in the same company, but different departments. This tells the tale right away that, that this automatically puts this email like, okay, we got a real issue here. I recently hooked up with a coworker that I work extremely close with on a business trip. We have had a pretty obvious back and forth flirtation for a while and I developed a crush on him. We had both gone back to our rooms after other people went out and he texted me, should we have gone out? See, I can already tell you what's happening and I'm saying this, this is going to be gendered. But I'm going to tell you kind of how it usually goes. Based on my years of getting emails from randos, what you wrote is the classic move. And listen, every. This is what they call a soft pitch. You're not pitching, hey, we should hook up, but it's a soft pitch, hey, should we have gone out longer? Now it's you directing the, you know, the traffic. Now it's you leading the way. When people want to absolve themselves of a hookup responsibility as far as like in the safest, nicest way. Not like I'm saying, when people want to like get into the like light manipulation of it all and want to make sure that like, if you hook up, then it's not really their fault. They make you the person who, who decided. So that's kind of what this person is doing to you. Because you work extremely close. You have a pretty obvious back and forth flirtation for a while now. And then you say, I developed a crush on him. You can only speak for you, but it is interesting. They're like, I've done this. And then we both head back to our rooms after other people went out. And he texted me, should we have gone out? That is him getting you to say, I think we should go out. Not him being like, hey, I really like you. We should go out some more. And this obvious back and forth is really bubbled over the, you know, the pot, and we have to, you know, clean it up somehow. You know, that's not what he's saying. I took it as an opening. Right, because he literally asked you to take it as an opening and got myself in his room to give him something. What? This jumped out. This jumped. This jumped a level. He texted me, should we have gone out? I took it as an opening and got myself in his room to give him something and then asked if he felt the vibe I had been feeling. He said yes, but was pretty nonchalant about how he felt and went right into, we either do this or not. Let me read this again. He said yes, but was pretty nonchalant about how he felt. It is, you know, what you're asking for is not what's going to happen. Especially from someone that has been flirting with you and been part of this. He's not unaware. Okay. You have to live in a world where you guys are the same. You. You know, the. This idea that, like, you're flirting with him and what is he doing? No, if you felt it, you're not crazy. This is happening, and he is a part of that. So when you say, you know, he was pretty nonchalant, you're kind of ignoring that. He's been nonchalant about this the whole time. So I know the dream is, hey, have you felt this? The dream is, hey, have you felt a vibe between us and him looking at you and going, I've loved you since the day we met. Every day I think about our children and our children's children and how we should be together forever and be buried in graves where we're holding each other's hands. And he didn't do that. He was never going to do that because he's been playing it safe. Safe. He's been playing it safe since jump. So I. And so I understand you go. It was pretty nonchalant about how he felt and went right into, we either do this or not. I mean, talk about how going from like, I love you, I need you. I've been thinking about you every day to, yeah, I guess you're okay. You want to do this or what? Like, that's kind of the change he's doing. And it's probably somewhere in between where he doesn't want to get in trouble. He likes you, but he also isn't madly in love with you. So it's a little. I'm sure he's backing off of it. He would say, hey, I really do. The right thing to say is I do really feel this, but I'm afraid that, like, it'll not work out. And then we have this awkward work thing. And while I would love to hook up with you and do this tonight, I don't even know what that means for tomorrow. Like, that's probably the more honest answer. Okay, let me keep going. I'll stop interrupting myself. And was extremely rational about it. Oh, you've just described all men. This is the thing. He's been rational about it since day one. He thought you were hot. You guys end up working together. There's a good back and forth. And then it's like, my God, if we go any further, I might ruin my career for this. Lust. That's the thing. Men think lust first, so they're thinking, I'm going to screw myself. It's not, oh, my God, we connect. We could be together. Is this the one that will make my life a treat, so to speak? No, you're thinking of how great it could be. He's thinking of how horrible could be. So that's why you're in romantic land and he's in logistics land. And this is the, the problem. This is the male, female thing. And this is my. Listen, I'm speaking from my heart year. My whole life of, of women is this smoothie of logistics and romantics. And I get too logistical. And I wish I was a little more romantic. And being a little more romantic takes a lot of courage, takes a lot of confidence, takes a little delusion. So I. It's funny. You're. You're. You think this is a doozy, but this is a tale as old as time. Okay, so he's extremely rational about it, which I would be too. We kept at PG13, had some fun, talked a lot, mostly about sex. But then after he was saying we wouldn't be able to sleep if I stayed over, so I felt that he basically kicked me out of his room. You're living in extremes, and I understand you're doing that. I get it, I get why. But it's not, oh, my God, I love you. We need to be together or It's I kicked you out of the room. I understand how it feels. I can't tell you how to feel. I get why you're. I think your feelings are valid. I just think if I'm to like press back at you, it's like, yeah, he basically kick. Yeah, get out of here, whore. That's not what he's doing. He's protecting himself. He's being protective. That. That feels personal to you, but it's not. That's my thing. Okay. She writes side note. This almost happened another trip when the two of us decided to skip an event. Majority his idea. See, you're already keeping score with this stuff. This is tough. Okay? And when I went and got drinks and dinner together and once again we were texting after but I got stuck in the elevator on the way to his room and took it as a sign. I shouldn't have gone. Lol. Here's the kicker. We are both married with a baby and toddler at home. Boy, bury the lead much. Oh my God, it's again to go back to your email and listen, I. I feel, I'm humbled that you that you would write to me with this problem. This is a real problem. There are other people at play. There's kids at play. The whole thing, this is a mess. And I feel for you in the way that people don't say out loud a lot. Nobody feels for the person who's go. Who's doing these things because you know you're doing wrong. You know that. But. And again like to say like, why do you get so logical? Come on, why. Why aren't you being more logical? I could say to you at any point in this email, you know the idea that I love you, I'm leaving. You know, this even changes. This isn't ruined my job. This has ruined my life. This isn't. You know, hey, I care for you, but I love you. And these, this wife at home and the kid at home, screw them. And then because you're basically saying what you're saying here when you're like always being rational, you're leaving out. And I don't think this is being unfair to you, but you're leaving out that you're not being rational enough. We're both married with a baby slash toddler at home. And again, this whole love conquers all. This is the story that doesn't get told that maybe it doesn't. Maybe you two were meant for each other in another universe. But this is. And listen, if you are meant for each other, it's going to take a lot of work from both ends and. And you ain't even begun. We are, you know, think the hookup. Oh, we now know we both are into it. That's not even the beginning. We are. We're the same age and connect on a lot of different levels. One being that having kids put a strain on our marriages and we've been working through it with our partners. Two things. That is something two people with kids could connect on without hooking up. But I hear you. Obviously this is not the correct way to do that, but that's a cycle analysis for another day. Yeah, I guess that is for another day. We're here to talk. Why didn't you. You know, we talked about. Talked after and he is very adamant about staying in communication how we're feeling about it in case anyone's feelings change. Well, he's protecting himself. To me. He's doing that to be like let me make sure she doesn't like freak out. He brought up multiple times that we could either call it quits or keep doing this but set pretty firm boundaries on just doing it when we're together in person. No texting or anything that would risk our current relationships. That means he is not going to leave his current relationship. He has not thought of you and him running away together. If that is a thought on your mind, you need to readjust. You need to back away. You need to get more logistical. And again, I'm saying this to someone who's cheating on their spouse and has kids at home. You might be like, but Jared, you're even suggesting. Listen, if that's the arrangement you want to go for, just don't be confused that he's going to go for a different arrangement than the one he presented. So no texting or like he is letting you know what he is up for. And he ain't lying. Okay? He's lying to someone. To be honest, I was still processing everything when this was all brought up so I just took it in and have been thinking about it since I got home. He has messaged me on teams and commented on Instagram all non work related since we've been back. So I know he is good with everything. He's definitely good with everything. He told you how he wants it to go. Do you think he just sees this as potential sex he is not getting with his partner or could there actually be a connection? I'm sorry, not sure what I could even do with that but I'm curious on your thoughts. Sincerely stuck between HR and hard Place. This is a difficult one for me to get back to because it would make it easier on you if I could speak in extremes. And I will tell you this. This is what people do in your life. He'll never leave her. He doesn't care about you at all. He just wants sex. That's the easy answer. I would disagree with that answer. I think everything's on a spectrum. I'm sure you satisfy a place for him that is many things. I'm sure you help to give him this fun thing that he might not have in his life. You offer no responsibility. You know, hooking up with you versus his wife is like vacation versus home. You know, we love our home, but you love going on vacation. So I just. Do you think he sees this as potential? You could boil this down. You could vilify him and make this. That. Make. It would be vilification. And. And no one would. People do this to men, you know, does it happen to women? I'm. I'm not sure. I think the. Because you're writing in, you're going, well, could this be something more to me again, to me, this is. You're asking a question. You're not asking a question you need to be asking. And the question you're asking is, does this mean my marriage needs an incredible amount of help? I would say yes. Does this. Is this. And this is a sign that could lead you in many different directions. It can lead you to couples therapy, can lead you to a divorce. It can lead you to talking with your husband in just one way or another. I'm just saying I don't know what this will mean to you. If it means to you, like, the dream of running away with him and this is the love of your life instead of your current love of your life. I don't think that's going to happen for you now. Telling you how he feels, he's as confused as you. Does this mean I love my. I don't love my wife? Does this mean. Am I doing this because it's the adventure of it all and I've lost that in my current marriage? I don't know. But it is as unclear to his feelings or as unclear to him as your feelings are to you. Let's not sit here and go, he just wants sex and you are sitting here. Is it about the sex? Is it. Why would you be less confused than he is? That's my point. When. When you make someone into. They just want the sex, you're trying to make them a certain caricature. So it's easier for you to digest. Now, you people do that, and that's okay. I'm just saying let's not be deluded to think that that's like the. The easy answer. So I'm not going to sit here and be like, he just wants. Sees this potential sex. I see. I. I think he sees this as someone he connects with and trusts and likes and the adventure that maybe he isn't getting at home. I think he likes you. I think the idea that, like, you guys would run away together and be together forever, that is not something he's thinking about right now. Right now he's in protection mode and he's. You're. And you're. And I think you're in a little bit too much romantic mode when you say he's being nonchalant and unromantic and, you know, extremely rational about it. It's like, someone's got to be. If he was not rational, you two, he's basically. You two would basically get caught in trouble with your person at home. And, you know, this would be. Maybe you guys continue for a little bit, but the idea that you'd run off together and be fine and no one and you'd hurt love. What hurt loved ones, your kids, you know, all that stuff. So not sure what to even do with that. But I'm curious your thoughts. My thoughts are I. I feel for everyone involved. It sucks. I feel for your spouses. I feel for the kids. I feel for you. I feel for him because. And I think you two need to have, like. He's already trying to have the talk with you that you probably need to have. He's like. He's basically like, if we're going to hook up, this is the way it's going to be done. And. And again, you guys, like, talk and you talk about sec. Sure. It was comfortable and easy because you have this, like, backlog of a relationship. I think to me, you end it. You talk with him. You go, this is something that made me realize I need to, like, figure out my marriage. You guys will either continue to work together and be flirty and it'll probably happen again, or one of you will have to leave the job and figure out a new way to, like, not be around each other. But that will come later. That, you know, these things generally end badly with time, or you got, you know, the. The choices are you guys are together forever and this is your story and, you know, everyone gets over it at some point and whatever, or it doesn't happen at all. And it's more like it's. That's about a 99 chance of not happening at all and ending in a mess. So you're asking though what he's thinking and feeling. I don't think it's as clear cut as he just needs sex from you and you're just some, you know, some woman he's having sex with. I think it's more than that. Do I think he's going to end up with you? No. Do I think he told you exactly what he's looking for from this? As far as like what the boundaries and the parameters are? He already told you. And you're looking to say like you're taking it personally as like, well, I thought there was something more here. And it's like I think there needs to be a little bit more logistics to that as well. Like if there was something more here, you'd go back to your families, you'd say, hold this, I need to do something first. 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Even my closest friends, they have questions. And, But I just, I have this thing in my mind when I leave. I'm like, did I ask other people the questions? Did I ask like, I don't know. I, I, I do, I, I, I have this thing where I'm like, do I not care about their accounting job or should or, or am I just a complete narcissist? Like, I have this like, moment. And honestly, considering I, considering my friends, I'm sure no one thinks this but me. I'm pro, I'm again, we're all the star of our own movie. We're probably thinking about this. You're thinking about this more than anyone else's. But I do have this thought of like, can I just shut the fuck up about me? And I would, I would love to hear about someone's accounting job. I guess I don't even, you know, I do. Like I asked about the kids. I do have interests. How are my friends, kids doing? But I do leave these things going. Do I need to like. And you know what makes it harder being single? When you're single, there's no one to be like, jared, shut the fuck up. You know, like, that's what a girlfriend boyfriend is for. Hey, enough. You know, back it off. You know, you're taking over. Like, you know, that's like the, the, the post dinner party party. You know, the dinner party social situation. Rehash is all, is what relationships are made on. So I am a wildlife biologist, which isn't as cool as a comedian, I think that's pretty cool. But it's still different enough from the average desk job and accountant that I also get lots of questions when I tell people I listen. I have 17 off the bat. What, what animal do you specialize in? Is it mammals versus non mammals? I just saw a dolphin in the ocean. Is, do they swim that close? Like, I have a thousand questions right off the bat for you as a marine biologist, so. Or a wildlife biologist, so I didn't even. Again, people don't even listen. Oh, you're a comedian. Do you juggle? How's it juggling? You're like, oh, I no, I don't do juggling. Like you just had. You'd have to do it. No, wildlife biologist. I don't do the sea. So see, this is already me having a conversation with you and you're not even here, and it's like, we're already doing a lot of. Of stuff. We haven't even gotten to what you do, and I'm still talking about what you do. So this is a problem. My question is, do you have any advice on how to deal with this as a non performer? I honestly hate being the center of attention and I am really not good at talking to new people. I love this question. Thank you for sending this in. I know as a comedian, you probably are much more well equipped than me to deal with this. I do have, like, sometimes it feels like I'm going into, like, crowd work mode. Where are you from? What do you do? How long you guys been together? I kind of have those in my holster. So it is somewhat in my job training where I can understand as a wildlife biologist, you're like, can you just like, you know, it's like, easier to deal with a horse? Like, instead of. You're like, oh, I'm trained to talk to, you know, go, easy there. Easy there. You know, you can't do that at a dinner party. Hey, what's it like being a wildlife biology sh. Easy. Yes. Yeah. He eat. Yeah. Salt lick. You know, you can't do that. That's your training. Like, I do more than that. I know. It's okay. Sometimes I try to be vague and say I'm a scientist. That would invite even more scientists with beakers and vials and what you do. Surger. But that leads to more questions, right? How do I just sort of avoid this conversation altogether? I don't think. I think avoiding it is. It will make it worse. Just like you said, you say you're a scientist. They're like, what the scientists like, you know, are you, you know, in the lab? Like, I'm sure, like, those questions will get. And then the more questions you got. Well, I'm actually a wildlife biologist and I don't say it. Now you have to explain why you didn't say it. I also am worried about coming across as bragging when I love my job and most people seem to not like their jobs. Thanks in advance. And love the daily J Train format, especially coffee with J Train. Thank you. I love doing coffee with J Train. It's on Patreon. Patreon.com Jared Freed. Five bucks a month. Just a little trip to Plug City. Okay, first of all, you're not bragging. Just you. Unless to me, I love my job is not bragging. Say, you know, say it once. I really like doing it. I. I think it's Hard to sound bragging when you just love your job. I like doing it. It's a lot of fun. I enjoy it. That's not bragging. I make $2 million a year for doing nothing. That's bragging to me. So I think you're safe on the bragging front. If I talk to someone, they were like, I just love my work with the marsupials. I wouldn't be like, whoa, look at this brag. Or I guess someone has it easy. They don't have to worry about their stuff getting lost. They just put in the marsupial pocket and they're good. Oh, whoa. Big brag. You know, I don't think you're a brag. Or by saying you love being a wildlife biologist, I get to travel. I might, you know, that is not a the bragger is money stuff. I think, hey, I make a ton of dough and that's what gets me up every day. That's a douchebag. That's a bragger. I don't think you avoid it. I think you say, I'm a wildlife biologist, and I think maybe you're. The answer to question is kind of counterintuitive answer more so. Like, I'll give you an example. When I say, you know, what is it that I had this last night? I'm going to talk about it on coffee with J Train this week. A woman goes, what do you do? Do you mind if I ask, what do you do for work? And I said, I'm a comedian. I travel the country doing stand up comedy at clubs and colleges. It's a lot of fun and I really enjoy it. When you say it that much, you kind of take away a lot of the questions ahead of time. Do you travel? You do stand up? You know, I get ahead already knowing what the questions will be. And again, it's different for everyone. I wouldn't say that to a friend, like, if I knew someone from college. What are you doing since college? I'm a comedian, actually. That would be different. When it's a random at a party. Oh, I'm a wildlife biologist. I actually specialize in, you know, with, with squirrels. Squirrels are like my thing and I get sent. I think you go more nuanced and niche. Try that again. I'm just a guy with an opinion. It has helped me in the past to just get ahead. I'm a comedian. 30 million things go off in their brain. Just like when you say, I'm a scientist. When you say, I'm a wildlife biologist, again, that's too Vague. I think you go more specific. I'm a wildlife biologist. I'm working with the squirrels of the greater New Hampshire area, and I've been doing it for about 20 years. I could tell you anything you want to know about a squirrel. Now you've zoned it into squirrel. That's the move. Then you know the person you're talking to is going to go, ah, no, I got no questions on the squirrel. Sounds pretty cool. Now you've moved on and you could even pitch into other things. Yeah, I'm a wildlife biologist. I work mostly with squirrels in the greater New Hampshire area. What is it that you do? Maybe that's the move. Get ahead. You want to basically catch their question, throw it back and get them to catch. You want to play catch. You don't want to just receive. You want to also throw it back. So I think take it, get niche, throw it back. That's the move. I'm a wildlife biologist. I deal mostly with horses. We do no work with the Kentucky Derby. People think that a lot. It's not race horses. It's more the Nat. You know, the horses that you would see kind of galloping around the country, mostly in the Utah, Salt Lake City area. What is it that you do? Actually? They'll be so flustered within. You know, you kind of get them. You throw so much information at them that they're like, what was that? Horses? Salt Lake City. And then you come, and then they come back, and then you go. And they go, oh, I, I guess. What do I do? I, I, I'm a, I'm an assistant at a, at a bank. At a bank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you try the food? The food's pretty good. Now that they want to get off it. You've hit them with so much stuff. Oh, what is it you. You do? And they go into their boring job. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm a lawyer. Lawyer. I've never been to Salt Lake. Have you had the food yet? Like, they, they want to leave their thing at that point. So let's give that, let's give that a shot right back in with your results. Let's do a little now. You can take this to the Lab J Train podcast every Monday. Fun one. Love these questions. Keep sending again. Keep sending them in. I just back next week. Boom.