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Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a ch. Chit Chat Wednesday too. Hello and welcome to the J Train Podcast. It's a Chit Chat Wednesday, and today's guest is Michael Yo. What a pleasure to have Michael yo on. I saw him when I was in la. We started texting. I was like, get on the show. And it happened to go with the end of E News, which had been on the air for so long. E Network. And Michael yo was a part of that year universe, and he watched how the Kardashians got started. So we talk a lot about that world. And, you know, I always think of VH1. I love the 90s as, like, that, like, generation of comics that were doing TV things. I totally forgot that E was involved with that too. And he's right. And I, I, I. And it is something that I kind of lumped in with the VH1 people. So very cool for me to hear about that era and what it was like for Michael yo and how he got into ST. Standup. He's hilarious. He's doing a show in New York that all of you should try and go to if you're in the city. Just a great episode. And then at the end, we do a game based on his new show that's coming out. He's doing this show where he goes to, like, wacky food places, wacky restaurants, extreme restaurants. So we talk about restaurants and stuff and food at the end. So check out today's episode. So fun with Michael Yo. Go follow Michael Yo. Enjoy foreign. Welcome to the J Train Podcast. Is J Train Jared Freed coming alive from Delray Beach, Florida? That's right. Every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I get on zoom with a comedian, a friend, an expert. Today. I got all three for you. He's a comedian. Hilarious. He's a friend. Got to see him on the road recently in la. And he is an expert in all things unusual dining experiences because he has a new show called 1000 Ways to Dine that's on A and E. And I am like, I saw that. I zoned right in.
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Yeah.
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Michael Yo. How are you, man?
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Man, I'm so excited to be on this show because me and my wife watch all your Bachelor content.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. And I'm how did your bachelor thing go? Is that a secret?
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No, I've been saying, I, I've said I've gone on the Golden Bachelor. I was a part of a date. That's all I can.
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Or that's all you can.
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That's all I'll say. That's all I need to say. It was a blast. It was. I'm holding on to the story because I want the episode to come out. Because, again, like, you've done this. You've been in this world. Like, I, I gotta say, I, I, you've been in the celebrity oeuvre. Like, you know, you do E. News, you're, you know, awesome comic and all that stuff. But, like, you know, you've been, you're, you're like Hollywood. You're a Hollywood guy to me, I.
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I, I mean, what I love is we share the same audience. That's why I wanted to be on this podcast, because your audience knows me from E. Entertainment. I mean, that was in college for all your audience. We were the thing to watch, you.
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Know, on in the background. And like, you know, for people that come to my show, absolutely. They're seeing you right now and they're going, I know Michael, yo, like, and they might know you just as like, the guy from. They don't even know that you're great standup. Like, they, they don't even know. And, and, and also, like, the time, it's so weird because you're not like, I wouldn't be like, michael, yo. A thousand years old. I'm like, there is this, like, weird cut of, like, old Hollywood stuff that was like, even, even at that time, it wasn't old Hollywood. It was cable tv. It was new.
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It wasn't even like, yeah, it was new. But like, that, what I remember being at E. At that time, ratings wise, it was as high as it's ever been. Ted harbor was the president. He's the one that dated Chelsea for a little bit.
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Chelsea Handler.
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Chelsea Handler. But the thing is, he created almost like a college vibe at E. And that's what were attracted. You had Ryan Seacrest, you had, you had Juliana Rancic, you had Snoop Dogg, you had. They brought Joe McHale back from the soup. You had the Kardashians launching at that time. So every, all these hit shows launched at one time. And we were there, like, our parties, like, we would have parties, you know, like the end of the year, Christmas party. You're talking about Snoop Dogg performing, bringing all his friends. You're talking about Chelsea doing stand up Joe Coy doing Stand up, everybody on the round table. It was. It. It's been the most amazing time that 2007-2012 I was on E. That was the most amazing time in television for me because it was nothing but stars.
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Also, you know, as you're even saying that, like, I had a relationship with everyone that was on that channel, and everyone's like, now that you're saying, I'm like, yeah, everyone was, like, young and hot and everyone was, like, fun and, like, I had this, like, viewers angle of it of like, oh, E, I know what I'm getting here. This could be a fun, like, just like this podcast. I always say, like, this podcast is like a moment to put your brain on the shelf. Let. Let me take the wheel. We're going to, like, hang for a second. You can listen. You don't even have to have your eyes open. That's the beauty of a podcast. That was kind of E for me, you know, where I'm like, oh, let's see what's going on. Let's see the movie preview show. Like, let's see the, you know, the soup and CE news and, like, let's see the stuff that doesn't matter that I can kind of, like, chill out with. And it's funny to be like, oh, yeah, there was, like, real lives on the other side of the TV screen where, like, this hang was happening.
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It. It was. Here's what was great about E. At that time. A lot of people look at entertainment news today and go, oh, that's old people doing it, you know, but we were like, actually the same vibe as the viewer, and we hung out at the same places. Like, I lived in Los Angeles. I was at Winston's. I was at all the hot clubs. Like, we were hanging out with everyone that watched our show. And I remember, man, I remember being a part of Kourtney and Khloe Take Miami because I was Chloe's boss and I was in it, man. Like, I remember being in a bar and all these girls coming up. This is when I was single. I'm happily married now, but it's when I was single and girls left and right, and one celebrity, huge celebrity looked at me and go, who are you?
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How did you get here? How are all these women jumping all over you?
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And I go, oh, I'm on. Courtney and Chloe take Miami. And they just cheers me and go, hey, keep doing what you're doing because it's working.
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It's funny because, like, a show like that was kind of like eye rolled because again, like, the reality show world that you guys were kind of reporting on, producing, it got this, like, you know, side world vibe because it wasn't scripted, but then, like, now scripted. If people are up on kind of like Hollywood is like, shrimp has shrunk to nothing. Go look at how many it's gone. Like, there's, there's. How many sitcoms are on the major networks? Like, you could count them on one hand. Maybe, maybe.
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Well, when you say eye roll. And I'm gonna explain to this, the people that I rolled, it is the same people that I rolled the Bachelor. But women love it, right? Women were, Women loved the shows.
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I, I, I am. I, I'm a fan of it. I just think it's so interesting the way we see things. And now, like, like a show like, you know, the Kardashians are like our new Barbara Walters. Like, they are like, you know, like, you know, Chloe is doing podcasts as if she's, you know, you know, having dignitaries on and, and breaking real stories. And you're like, what?
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You got Kim Kardashian getting people out of jail.
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Right, Right.
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I mean, so, I mean, here's what's interesting. I get this all the time since I was on the Kardashians. They have no talent. I go, okay, I can see that angle. But, but also, you got to remember this. How many thousands of reality shows have started and ended and there's this still going. It takes talent. It's down to, to get people to keep coming back. Investing in your products, investing in you. That's a talent. Whether you like to admit it or not. That's a talent. Yeah.
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It's a talent that we don't, you know, the reason people poo poo. It is like, we don't know what to call it.
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Yes.
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You know, you go, I, I don't know what to say. It is like, it's like an influencer. Like, listen, there's people that influence on the Internet, and there's people that have a hundred thousand followers, and there's people that have 20 million. They're not a better. You know, you go, what is that? That makes a twenty million person versus a hundred thousand. I don't know what the words are, but that is talent.
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It's, it's talent to a certain degree. It's luck to a certain. But that's in any industry. That's in comedy. Look, look how many great comics that we know that haven't broken. There's thousands of great comments where you'll see him in A comedy club is like, how is this guy not bigger?
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It's 100% true too. It's, I've been on sets with terrible actors, right. You know, and you could see everybody talks about them behind their back. Him or her back. Everybody just hates to be around. It's almost like when you create an amazing job as acting and just doing it for a paycheck because you hate the main actor. That's sad.
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That's right. This is fun and games. We're playing make believe. But the reason I bring it up is like, you go to like, you know, the, it's just the, there's more to the job, you know, like there's, you know, the comedian who never broke you go, well, what didn't they do? Were they, did they have, you know, did they have this religion where they could only do comedy but they weren't gonna write an email back, you know, like, and that goes to like the Kardashians. Well, why are they, you know, they have no talent. Well, they have a talent at something. They do something with the job, they're on tv, they're interesting, they're funny, they know the camera lights on, we gotta perform, we gotta sing, dance and dust. I, I, is there one e memory that you have? Like, did you meet anyone that you were like, oh my God, where am I right now? Is there one that, like, you go, this is something that makes me like, I think back and get like chills thinking that I was even there or.
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Well, I mean, part of that as far as pop culture wise, you know, I know a lot of your audience loves pop culture, so as far, it's the Kardashians. I remember when they brought them because I had a SiriusXM radio show for E2. Yeah. And they brought them in and they were like, hey, we got these girls, they're gonna go on a press tour. They've never done press together. So can you interview them and kind of like give them notes about press? So every new show that happened, they would bring them to my radio show, right? Because it was on Sirius and it was live and stuff like that, just to kind of do a prep.
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They knew you were, you were family.
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Safe. I'm family. I'm safe.
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Your family, you're they. And they can say to you, hey, this is the angle we want to go in, this is the direction, and you're a Game, you know, you're part of this. I'm not trying to Sirius XM Family with. You're gonna go there, like, what? Tell me about the sex tape. Tell me about the sex tape. Like, no, they know you're gonna, like, have some fun with them. And. And you are fun. That's the thing. That's why they hired you. They're like, he's gonna have fun with them. And that's what our audience want. We want fun. So tell us why these two girls are fun. So I get that.
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Yeah. And. And I'm not trying to break news with. With them. I'm just trying to. I'm trying to make them look good because I work for the same company, right? So I remember I was in. I was in some meetings, and I remember Lindsay Lohan backed out of her show just in case the audience doesn't know how the Kardashians all happen. Lindsay Lohan was supposed to have her own show. She backed out at the last minute, two months before a show was supposed to be released. Ryan says, I got these girls, the Kardashians. Now, if you. Everybody in Hollywood knew the Kardashians and their show basically got turned down for, like, five, six years. Nobody wanted just the girls. So he was like, well, when you're as big as Ryan Seacrest, you get a first look deal to the network. So he got to present, like, any shows, and they would consider picking it up. So they go, we don't. We don't want just the girls. We think they're great, but add the parents. We need a different dynamic. So they added Bruce, they added Chris, and then put it on. If you look. If you go back and look at their first promos, literally it was done in a closet. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, let's just get it out there. And then to see. To know them and be a part of their lives, like the first six, seven years of that and to see how they pretended to be at a certain level and then become what they were pretending to be was absolutely incredible.
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Well, that's the interesting part is, you know. You know, to everyone watching at home, they were this rich Hollywood family. But, like, as you said in the beginning, it was like, well, we're around these things where people don't really want us around. Like, we are kind of a joke. Like, we're not, you know, the director working in Hollywood for 30 years. We're not the writers that everyone wants to have write their movie. We're not considered the geniuses. We're considered this family that's around, and then, you know, you have to, like, be nice and everything. And then they get brought in, they're at all the parties, and then all of a sudden, the world changes. Were they like. And do you remember Chris? Were you like, oh, I remember. When you met Chris, were you like, this is. This woman's on it? Were you, like, momager, Like. Because, like, I. I recently met someone who was like a. A big, like, was calling themselves, like. It seems to me. And I. Not to get specific, but yeah, whenever someone says I'm the momager, they think that's just an explanation of why they're a piece of shit and they're annoying.
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Yeah.
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And you go, well, I don't know if that's how Chris did it. I would assume that she's actually pleasant and easy to work with. And there's a reason people are like, I got to work with her or do things she wants. Because it's not because she's an annoying mom who's like, no, forcing her kids to do something. I would think it's. There's a genius in that.
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Let me tell you. After the interview, it went so well. Chris said to my face, if this show is a hit, I will get you on it because you treated my family so well. There was two people that said that.
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Hold on, let's back this up. You interview the two.
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Chloe, the whole family.
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I interview the whole family. So you have them on the. On the. On the. On the radio show, and then you have this great interview to promote their show.
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Yep.
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And then Chris. Cameras go off. Kris Jenner looks at you and goes, I got you.
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Yep. She goes, if this is a hit, I got you. I want to put you on the show. If it's. And this is when it hasn't even aired, she goes, and in my mind, everybody in the studio, you know, we're. We're all. We just moved to Hollywood because that's when I first got there, too, and. And I was like, oh, I've heard of these stories. It becomes a hit, and they forget you, literally, that next year, after the show blew up, I got a Christmas invite to their big Christmas party. For five, six years in a row, I never went to any because I wanted to see my own family. But the deal is, she really accepted me. She put. She came through and actually put me in two or three seasons of Courtney and Khloe Take Miami. So, you know, you hear about people not following through the other person to do that for me, Chelsea Handler I, I, I, I, Chelsea. I had a big radio show in Miami, so Chelsea wanted to sell out. This was like when it was a big theater, and this was like one of her big moments, you know, she's starting to take off.
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Well, as a comedian, we, you know, we know this, but the audience might not. Like, you go from like, doing clubs to like, hey, would you want to do a theater? And then the agency says to you, miami is a pain in the ass. You're going to have problems in Miami. So what you got to do is go there a day early, get on the radio. This guy Michael, yo, he's a comic. He's a great guy. He's funny. He's gonna sell you because his audience trusts him. And this was like back in the day type of shit. Even though it was like five years ago, you know, like, this is like.
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But, but this was like 2008. But the thing about radio back then, it was kind of like normal television. People really trusted it. Yes. I had the number one show in Miami in the afternoon, and. And I remember putting her on, and literally two days later, that show was sold out. Chelsea hit me up and goes. Before she even had a show on the. She goes, if I have a show, I got you. And she did. And I was on Chelsea Lately for seven years, so.
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And that Chelsea Lately crew was a big part of e. All hilarious comics I've opened for. Like, I remember when I started that crew was like, touring. That crew was like, on the road that, like, big time on the road in every city was a Chelsea Lately person. And that was like, you know, I say this a lot with stand up. Like, people know, you know, before Stan, the Internet, you could count on one hand the amount of comics who could tour just from being a comic.
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Yep.
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Like, you know, you had Earthquake, you had Kathy, Kathleen Madigan, you had Regan. Like, these were like, very comics comics. You had Jim Gaffigan. You know, these were like, you know, the, you were. You. Most other comics were the guy from the Thing.
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Yeah, from the Thing.
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Yeah, yeah, whatever. You know, friend of the sick. I mean, this Chelsea Lately, people. That was like a. She, she, like, made a lot of careers.
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Do you. She was. And I tell everybody this to be a part of that show. She was the American Idol for comedians. Literally. Literally. Let me tell. Let me tell you how I know. Let me tell her. Yeah, how I. This is how big this show was. I wasn't even a comic. I was just starting. Literally just starting comedy on Chelsea, my third season on. I was selling out shows. Yeah, Just start. Which is. Which is a cheat code. But I was smart about it back then. I would bring, like, I would put myself in the middle. I would go up first, say thank you for watching Chelsea, put myself in the middle. But I would bring a headliner. Like, I brought.
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Right.
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Darnell Rollins. I would bring one of the. One of the comics from Chelsea. I remember bringing back in the day. God, there's Theo Vaughn, Sarah Tiana.
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Like, it's smart because you wanted people to walk away. Because when people walk away, they have one thought. Did I have fun?
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Yeah.
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It's like, I always say, like, if the AC doesn't work, you could never be funnier than the hot room.
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Yeah. Like, so true.
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So, like, it's like. It's the same thing. It's like, if you go and you do the headlining hour and you're not ready to do it.
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Nope.
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People go, ah, it was fine. But if you go do the 20 minutes in the middle where it's hot and the room is ready for you, and you have someone close it out, they go. It was a fun show.
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Yeah.
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So yo gave me a great night.
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I would literally do 10 to 12 minutes for, like, for, like, a year until I built up more time. But I did this. It was called Hot mess comedy. We did it for, like, four years. And I would do it on off nights, and these were on, like, Wednesday nights.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And they would sell three to three to 400 tickets. Like, and I'm not. So when I say it was American Idol, it was literally half the writers on that show, they retired from stand up. She resurrected so many. She gave so many people an opportunity to do comedy. I didn't even know I wanted to do comedy till I was on that show and surrounded by comedians. And I remember on her show, I go, this doesn't look too hard. I could do this. And they all lost their. They lost their shit. They were like, what? So Joe Coy Joy was the one that said, dude, we got the same type of stories because we always hung out. And he goes, you need to do it. Bobby Lee was on there. We were the three Asians on the show. So we would hang out, but. So it was so cool being a part of that. But it's a thing where it changed lives. Like, she changed lives, and she's so loyal. So loyal to the people that help her. Got get there. She was amazing.
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I love it. So now, before we get going, because this has been awesome, I want everyone to go follow Michael yo. At Michael Yo. On Instagram, on Twitter, on, you know, threads and tick tock and everything. Go follow Michael. Yo. You're also.
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Can I mention one thing? I know you got a big audience in New York. I'm doing the Gramercy my first time ever. Oh, September 20th. And we're, we're like a third. Like, we just need half more to sell, and we'll be sold out. So anybody in New York that loves the same type, I do the same, we do the same style of comedy. You know, I would love to sell that out. It would mean so much.
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So, so everyone's got to go. We got a huge New York crew. Go, go, go. Michael. Yo. Fun night out. It's in September. We're ahead of it right now. So the tickets now and again. Get the tickets now. Don't wait on this. Assemble the group chat. As I always say, you have a TV show. Okay, let me read. This TV show is made for me. I love weird food experiences. I love it. I am like, this is just up my alley a thousand percent. It's called A Thousand Ways to Dine, and here's the description.
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Yeah.
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Explore unique and unusual dining experiences showcasing creative chefs while culinary adventures viewers can expect to see unusual restaurants and dining experiences where food is just one part of the overall experience. Where did you go that was the most memorable place?
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Well, I mean, there's places I wouldn't go.
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I'm gonna get to that. I, I, But I, I want to know, okay, okay. Where wouldn't you go? Where wouldn't you go back to?
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Well, I didn't go at all because it was too dangerous. Like, those are the ones that. But I, I do like. Oh, yeah, yeah. It gets.
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What do you mean?
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Okay, so for instance, they have this dining experience. I forgot what country it was in because this show was shot like two years ago or a year and a half ago, but under underwater, you're like 30ft underwater. Huh? In a submarine type vehicle. And the waiters had to swim and put food like, no, I, I do not want to eat underwater.
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The other one, you go, did you go there? Did you see it? Did you see the operation?
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They pitched me on it, and I was like, no, you're not gonna do that.
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I, I just want to see what. Well, now with the submarine thing, with that guy who died, you go, but.
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This was before that.
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This was right.
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But I was like, I do not want to be trapped in a submarine if something goes wrong eating dinner.
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Also, I. Because I wonder, what's the food like? Like, do they do it like themed. Like, is it like the fish that are swimming around you? Is what's.
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No, they do have. But. But they do have restaurants like that that you'll see in the show. Literally you're in like the fish. You're in the ocean. The thing is submerged and you're in the ocean and there you're seeing the food, like swim around. Like these. Experience. The other one I wouldn't go to because I don't like heights like this. But they have this one where you're hanging off a mountain in a. Basically a. Like a. A bulb. Imagine a Christmas tree and you're just hanging off, but in a bulb. And they zip line the food. They have to zipline to your pod to give you the food. But you're just hanging this.
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Literally just, no, no, soup. Soup out.
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No, everything's out. I will not do that.
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So what is the most memorable? What did you like the best?
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You know what? I loved in it because it was fun. More the sensory stuff. They got a great one in Las Vegas. You know, where you get blindfolded. Yeah, yeah. Eat stuff and stuff I would never try. Since you can't see it, you don't really judge it, but it was excellent. They. That was fun. And it's especially fun to go out with a lot of friends because now you know you're safe. I wouldn't go alone because you don't know who you're sitting. But I don't trust that.
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Right. You can, you can feel around. If you. If you can't see anything, at least, you know, like the knee on your right and left are like two friendlies.
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B
Yeah, exactly. But I did go to one in Italy where you go to a person's house and that's awesome. Where you go to Italy and then a person opens up their house to ten people every like.
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A
So it's like, it's like Nona like making their food.
- [28:55]
B
Yeah. So they make their own food. Make it like very authentic. So that was the coolest.
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A
I mean, what's more authentic than that than hey, come on in, doors open and now you're in. See, that's something I think people would pay for. Where if you said to someone, you're just gonna go to a house, they're gonna be making dinner, give us a hundred euro.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And take what they serve in the same way that you would take whatever your grandmother makes.
- [29:22]
B
Exactly. And those that experience. I like the whole hiking 5 to 10 miles to get to a restaurant in the snow. Like, I'm not down for all that, you know?
- [29:31]
A
And then you have to be, like, at dinner with someone who says, like, hey, we earned this meal. Like, that's, like, the worst person you. You, like, don't want to eat with that person ever. Like, if there's anyone I want to eat with, it's not that person.
- [29:44]
B
Not at all.
- [29:45]
A
Okay, ready? Let's. Let's play a game before we go. Everyone go follow Michael Yo. He's going to show at the Gramercy Theater. Go, go, go. You're gonna love Michael yo at Michael yo on Instagram. I'm gonna call this game. Would you recommend.
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B
Okay, you bring it.
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A
Okay. I'm gonna give you a dining. A dining recommendation. Like, I'm going to give you a dining scenario. Would you recommend it to someone else?
- [30:10]
B
Okay.
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A
Great coffee place, but it's out of the way.
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B
Yes, 100%.
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A
You would recommend it.
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B
Can I tell you why?
- [30:21]
A
Please.
- [30:22]
B
Because at a great coffee place, once you get there, you can chill out with that person for hours.
- [30:28]
A
I know, but my issue with great coffee place is it. Is it so much better than fine coffee place that's like, no. In the town that I'm already in. Like, I haven't had travel for this coffee.
- [30:43]
B
You haven't had great coffee?
- [30:44]
A
Then I. I had great coffee in Australia. But I do think they. When I was in Australia, everyone there. Have you been there before?
- [30:54]
B
No.
- [30:55]
A
When you go, they all talk about their coffee, and then they go, but we don't grow the beans here. And so every Australian is, like, in shock that our coffee is way worse than theirs because they're like, it's got to travel here too. So what are you guys doing wrong? Yeah, so I. I would say to someone, there's great coffee in Australia, but I would be like, I wouldn't push someone to Australia because of the coffee. But that's a different scenario than 10 minutes down the road. I don't know. I. I'm not making someone drive 10 extra minutes for good coffee.
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B
Oh, yeah, I would. Because usually with great coffee, it's a great environment. You'll never. Part of it. You'll never see great coffee in a shitty place that looks.
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A
Okay, you ready? Would you recommend a restaurant where has a great vibe but the food is just okay?
- [31:47]
B
No, no, no. I do not.
- [31:50]
A
There's no vibe that would get you to suggest a restaurant.
- [31:53]
B
No vibes don't matter. I mean, even though my show is about.
- [31:57]
A
Is the vibe, though.
- [31:59]
B
Yes, you need to go for the.
- [32:00]
A
Food, but your show exists because, like, I do want to Watch that.
- [32:07]
B
Yes.
- [32:08]
A
More than I want to go to it. But if someone was like, but if I'm a hiker, I get how that gets sold to me, like, to the hiking restaurant where the food's okay, but I'm not recommending, like, when someone gives me a recommendation. And you probably get this too, because you're on the road as well.
- [32:23]
B
Yep.
- [32:23]
A
Hey, you got to go to this place. The best vibe. I'm like, I already know bad.
- [32:29]
B
You know. You know what vibes are for people in their 20s.
- [32:32]
A
Yes.
- [32:33]
B
You know, people in their 20s. They need vibes. I don't need vibes. I agree. I'm vibeless.
- [32:38]
A
Okay. Good food. A restaurant with good food. A restaurant with great food. But you're guaranteed that the chef is going to come out of the kitchen and talk to you for 20 minutes.
- [32:53]
B
I love it. You love. I love it. I love it. I love talking to a chef.
- [32:58]
A
I wrote this thinking I would hate it, but the minute I said it. I do have questions for the chef, why he chose the menu. You're probably going to get some freebies. I. And you. The way you just said, I love talking to a chef. Yeah. If it's because. And not the chef, I'm out.
- [33:17]
B
I could care less about. I could care less about, though. But the chef, I mean, that's the dude making it all happen. And you're right. You will get so much free stuff. Extras, like, before the food even comes out, they're sending you special appetizers and things that they would never serve other people. They're making special. They actually, I. I've had several chefs, when doing this show, come out and go, what do you like? What do you not like? And, hey, here's something not even on the menu.
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A
Right.
- [33:46]
B
One of my favorites. And that's their.
- [33:47]
A
That's their art. In the same way that someone could yell out cheating Coldplay husband, and we'd have an opinion.
- [33:55]
B
Absolutely.
- [33:55]
A
That maybe they hadn't heard yet. An original take. Yeah. I agree with you. I want to talk to the chef. I don't want to talk to the owner. I don't want to know about credits and debits and what kind of. What kind of business issues they have. Okay.
- [34:13]
B
I.
- [34:13]
A
Okay. You're in Arkansas.
- [34:15]
B
Yeah.
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A
And someone recommends the best pizza place in Arkansas.
- [34:20]
B
Yeah.
- [34:21]
A
Is that a good recommendation or a bad recommendation?
- [34:24]
B
Dude, I haven't been to Arkansas in so long.
- [34:27]
A
I've never been.
- [34:28]
B
I would not. I would not go to Arkansas for a pizza. Just.
- [34:33]
A
Just right.
- [34:34]
B
Like, for a good time. I would go to Fayetteville because that, you know, I went to school at Fayetteville, Arkansas. That was fun.
- [34:39]
A
You did? I just, I wrote Arkansas without even knowing that. Oh yeah, Yeah.
- [34:42]
B
I went to Faye. I thought that's why you brough. I play football for the University of.
- [34:47]
A
Arkansas for like a razorback.
- [34:50]
B
Yeah, I was a razorback. Woo. Pig sui.
- [34:52]
A
I love that. I had no. I literally wrote this down.
- [34:56]
B
Oh, that's great.
- [34:56]
A
So that's crazy.
- [34:58]
B
Bar scene. Absolutely 100% right. Pizza. I can't see them making great pizza. You know, if you want to go to the a good Walmart 100. That's where Walmart started.
- [35:08]
A
You know, I hate when someone recommends pizza when I'm on the road. If you're going to recommend pizza to me, you have to have like a 10 minute story about why you're recommending. If it's Italy, if it's New York, no story needed.
- [35:25]
B
Yeah.
- [35:26]
A
Anywhere else I need a tail.
- [35:30]
B
New York. What is the best pizza spot in New York for you?
- [35:34]
A
I. I will say this. A hot Joe's slice is just really great. Especially if had after midnight. It's just going to hit you, right?
- [35:47]
B
Yeah.
- [35:47]
A
Now I went to Series Pizza, which is like a new place. It was started by these two guys that were at 11 Madison park which if you know 11 Madison park, that's the like training ground for all the great chefs.
- [36:01]
B
Yep.
- [36:01]
A
They start this pizza place. I know Barstool just went to it and now you can't get in because it got a good review. I went there before Barstool did and I was like, the cheese was like an elevated Joe's. I thought it was good. I wouldn't have waited in line for it. I wouldn't like push someone to that. They had a mushroom and onion pizza that is in the all time category for me. Really? Yeah. I, I would say to people that is a special slice that's worth a wait in line. So but. And then they also have like a 50 pizza. Like they had this like expensive. They first went viral because they did like an $80 pizza. It was fine. It tasted like a bagel and locks. I wasn't really like gotcha hot on it.
- [36:49]
B
But don't you think when these great chefs make pizza it loses? Like it's not supposed to be great chefs making pizza. It's supposed to be mom and pop, like real.
- [36:58]
A
No, I'm with you. I. That's why I like, you know, Joe's has that mom and pop feel. I think if you again, I, I'M with you. I, I just love that people are. I love when, like, just like we were talking about the chef coming out of the kitchen.
- [37:10]
B
Yeah.
- [37:12]
A
You get to eat their art. Like, you get to, like, consume it literally. So I, I'm the other pizza that I love, and I'll give a shout out right now. Industry opened on Christopher. That's a great slice. There's a place called Village Square Pizza that's down the street. If you go towards Hudson. Okay. This is huge. It is a square pizza. They make a square, thin crust, grandma slice.
- [37:45]
B
Okay.
- [37:46]
A
Never see. Usually grandma slices are the thick ones with a ton of sauce on top. This is a thin crust, square version of a grandma, and it has a little bit of pesto on it. And these guys have always been nice to me. I always thought they got screwed in the pizza wars. They never got good pr. I'll say it here. That is a special slice and worth someone's time.
- [38:13]
B
I discovered. What do you discovered? Detroit pizza.
- [38:17]
A
And I love is if, if it's done right, it can be too.
- [38:21]
B
I mean, love it.
- [38:22]
A
Where did you go last? I can give a good recommendation for Del Re because that's where I'm at. And they have a great.
- [38:28]
B
I forgot where I went in Detroit, but it was my first time ever trying Detroit pizza because I think they put the, they put the cheese under the crust or something like that.
- [38:38]
A
It's. It's like they basically took grandma slice, the grandma pizza, and like, blew it out. Like, they were like, let's do it big. I I. The Detroit style, it's either too heavy.
- [38:52]
B
But mine was thinner.
- [38:53]
A
It wasn't super thick. If they do it right, you can have it without taking a nap. There's a place called Death by Pizza here in Delray that everyone here knows. Very, very good.
- [39:06]
B
Okay.
- [39:06]
A
I, I would suggest it to anyone who, if someone came to Delray was like, we want to do something on the beach. We don't want sandwiches. I would be like, go to death by pizza. Like, get a pie, bring it out with you. It would keep the day, like, it would be good for the day.
- [39:21]
B
Nice. Del Rey, what club? What club are you at?
- [39:24]
A
So there's a Dania beach improv. Is.
- [39:27]
B
Oh, Fort Lauderdale beach improv.
- [39:28]
A
Yeah. Yeah. It's like 40 minutes away from here. So I, I haven't gone yet. I've been. This is. The move here has been purely lifestyle and, you know, I'm sure, you know, like, like, you know, I'm like, let me see if I can do this from here, you know?
- [39:42]
B
Oh, wait, so now you're living in Dania.
- [39:44]
A
Delray beach, which is 40 minutes? Yeah.
- [39:47]
B
Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't. That's awesome.
- [39:49]
A
Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. So. I mean, we're seeing people who listen to this show know. I. I just think Delray beach is, like. It's like a. You know what I compare it to, like, West Coast. Like, I mean, you know, you lived in Miami, you know, you know the area. Like, I compare it to Manhattan Beach.
- [40:04]
B
Oh, it's great. Delray Beach. And it's easy living. It's fun. You can. I mean, it's beautiful, man. And then once you hit, like, November, October, November, the weather is, like, perfect.
- [40:15]
A
This is what everyone. I, I. Everyone's been saying that, like, I. And I'm. I'm liking the summer. I'm, like, okay with it. I think. I think it's been overrated how hot it gets. I'm. I'm, like, actually, like, cool with it. So nice. Michael. Yo. Thank you for coming on. This was fantastic. Everyone, go follow Michael. Yo. Gramercy Theater. He's going to be there. That's a great theater, fun venue in the right part of town. I think the. There's a bar across the street called the Globe. That's great. Okay, listen, there's good hangs, good food. Go see Michael. Yo. Thank you, buddy.
- [40:47]
B
All right. Thank you.
- [40:48]
A
Back next week. Boom.