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Hello and welcome to the Rose Rehash. Every week after the Golden Bachelor, I play the live stream here, and then we do an episode recap. Tonight was the Fantasy Suites episode part one. So you're gonna get my live stream of tonight's episode, and then I'm gonna do a recap. So enjoy the live stream. I'll be right back. Okay, so we got the Fantasy Sweets episode. Really? Part one. We're gonna get part two. It left us with a dramatic conclusion of Cindy and Mel sitting at their nighttime portion of the date. Basically pre. Do you want to come home with me on the date? And this episode could really just be called the, you know, Mel the brick wall, because he wouldn't give anything. Mel is showing that. And I don't know, you know, if you're gonna. Because there's a. To me, this is interesting to me watching a man who I, you know, as a single man myself, I see a lot of things that Mel does that I'm like, man, that is move that I have pulled. That is me stammering and blubbering after getting asked a really good question and not having anything more than I really like you to say. Like, I. I've been there, so I'm not. This isn't me saying I'm better than Mel or this isn't me hating on Mel. This is me just saying I think it's interesting to watch this. To some people, this is not what they came to this show for. They didn't come to see a man. And I think when I say to some, I think to the majority of the audience, they want someone who's positively sure that they want to leave this show being engaged and so swept off their feet in love. That magic. They get on the magic carpet and they fly away. And I just don't think that's like a normal thing. Like, you know, again, I'm a little bit more cynical. But that's why Joey grass a day. I think a big part of the reason he's so beloved, he is. He came on this show knowing who he was, what he wanted, didn't think of really, like, you know, And a lot of the post show stuff with Joey was like, does he have any money? And Joey doesn't seem to be concerned with that. Joey's like, I'm gonna be happy and in love, and that's it. Love will conquer all. And I do think love will conquer all is just not a very male thing, because we're seeing that with Mel. I mean, this episode was. It was a Huge example. I do find it interesting. Interesting. But I do think a lot of people are probably watching this. I think Mel angered the. The base of this audience tonight, where he may have just run the whole audience away. Because if you're watching this and have dealt with a man who can't tell you how he feels, which is a lot of people, they are probably looking at Mel being like, this goddamn piece of. Because he. It was just a full hour of Mel reading, you know, lines that he read off of a fortune cookie. Love will conquer all. You know, like. I mean, not that line, but, you know, oh, we'll be, will be. And do you, you know, do I have the will? Where there's a will, there's a way. That's how he ends the episode. So we start the episode going to Antigua. I think this was. I have been to Antigua. It is a beautiful island that you don't really hear a lot about it when, you know, sometimes when I watch the show and I wonder, was this a good investment from the hotel and the tourism bureau of the island or wherever they went? I think this was a 10 out of 10. It looks beautiful. I mean, if I'm Antigua, I'm a little upset with the date choices. It was a little basic. It didn't really give you a feel of the island. Antigua's a beautiful place, and you saw that here. It kind of looked empty. It looked like. And I think, you know, obviously most of these, you know, episodes that end up at a resort, it's empty. But this one felt more empty. It just felt like there was, like, nothing else around. But that's what people could be looking for from their vacation. I think if I'm Antigua, I got my money's worth. I'm happy with what happened. And you're, you know, if I'm Antigua, I'm like, look what we got. You're all going to Turks and Caicos, and. And it's 1800 a night to stay at a hotel. Come to Antigua. I would. I would be very curious. I am curious as to how much a weekend in Antigua is. And I. Listen, I'm not being. It sounds like I'm being paid by Antigua now. I am Team Antigua. That's. I. I would say, like, I. To me, that is something to be noticed. And it was noticed by me. So now we have Mel arriving in Antigua, and him and Jesse are going to hang out and throw a football, because that's what dudes do. In the course of Jesse talking with Mel, the big difference between the Bachelor and Survivor is how in the mix the host will get. Probst is in there, probes, you know, rolled up the sleeves. Let me, you know, let me ask questions. Let me be probing. Jesse is really Switzerland for most of this show. Jesse made to me, this episode is more invasive than Jesse has ever been. He says, he's like, hey, Mel, you're gonna have to like reveal your feelings. And Mel's like, well, I love you is a big deal. And he's like, you can tell someone your feelings without saying I love you. Like, Jesse sounded like a sibling to these women. And it sounded like production had said to Jesse, like, hey, this guy's gotta say something. There is an engagement coming. This is what this show leads to. It felt like nobody knows what Mel is going to do. It feels like in this episode when Jesse, because Jesse, not someone who asked these questions a lot, it felt like they all kind of were wondering, like not just the women, but like production and Jesse, like, what's this guy gonna do? What does he think this show is? And we get that towards the end to skip ahead a little bit. But he does say this is about finding a partner. And it feels like what Mel thinks he signed up for is woman who will go places with me, woman who will hang with me. And that's just not enough on this show. I don't think that's what the. Again, the base of the audience isn't looking for that. They're looking for swept off their feet, a love that all of us wish to find. And that's not what Mel's looking for. And I think that's going to enrage people. I, I'm not enraged by it because I'm just someone who comments on the show. I don't really get like moved by the show in that way, but I will say it did. It was noticeable that Mel is like, he's kind of looking for what every, you know, divorced man is looking for. No problems. I don't want to, I don't want to get myself in any issues. I got this life that's pretty calm right now. I had that divorce back then and I'm a year out and it was a four year divorce. And let's just be on easy waters. Just a friend looking to hang and then he goes on the date with Peggy. And Peggy is kind of Peg is really the, the, the what he, it seems he's looking for. She is going to be fun, she's going to be the energy. She's going to pull his hand, drag him on the Dance floor. And they go on this date. They do the dune buggy date. I. I don't know what producer was convinced that a dune buggy is somehow the trust fall of relationships. Like, this is where we learn about one another. This is where we see someone get uncomfortable and the other person care for them. I don't know. It just. We do a lot of dune bugging, and I don't find it to be very helpful for getting to know them. I mean, we see here that Mel's very cautious and Peggy is ready to drive and go crazy. And it's like, yeah, I guess that did show us something. But I wasn't really, like, surprised by that. It didn't really get them talking. You can't talk. Oh, hey, let's put on helmets. And, you know, drive around on this lawnmower and try to get to know each other. It's like, nothing happens there. So then they go to this, like, cliff, and they drink champagne. And we see that Peggy's trying to get answers. She's trying to find out, how do you feel about me? And there's one exchange that is actually crazy. She. She's like, so, what do you think about me? And he's like, I like you and dune buggy. And you're like, what? Mel, did you. Are you a robot that got a little water in it and you just malfunctioned like, it was absolutely nuts. And then Peggy's like, well, I guess I'll. I can't wait to meet your sons. I'll get all the answers then. So Peggy does this thing where she laughs over any uncomfortable moment, and that's kind of what Mel's looking for. He doesn't want to have to deal with reality. So Peggy's laughing loudly enough through these uncomfortable moments, and it's allowing for Mel to get away with stuff, because for her to say, I'll get the answers from your son. Ha ha ha ha ha. It's like, what? No, you're not. You think the sons are going to be more open and vulnerable than their dad, who's not open and vulnerable at all? The sons are going to be college kids, college men. I don't know, Fortnite. What are they gonna say to you? What are you meeting a lot of Gen Z people with these interpersonal skills that they're gonna be able to, you know, let you know what's going on in their. In their dad's life? That's not gonna happen, Peg. What are you talking about? So then we go to the nighttime date, and the fantasy suite, you know, the nighttime date gives us nothing again. He doesn't say much. He gives her the note. They have fun. That's all we know. They have fun. And Peg's gonna laugh during the uncomfortable moments. She even says, like, you know, you're gonna have to get a prenup. You're gonna have to sign a prenup. And it's like. That's like, a very big topic of conversation. Then she just starts laughing maniacally. And you're like, peg, what should we get into the prenup thing? Do you. Does he have any. Do you have a lot of money? Does he have none? What's going on here? What do you mean he's gonna have to sign a prenup? She's like, I don't want you taking my shit. What do you have, Peggy? What does he not have? What don't you trust from him? And, you know, anyone with a prenup will be like, oh, it's not about not trusting. It's not about this. Not about that. But it is. Listen, that is a hot button issue. That if she's bringing that up, and. Which is totally understandable at that age. It's a. It's a deeper conversation than just laughing through it. I. I don't want you taking my shit. What? And Mel is there to laugh about it. Mel doesn't care. Makes it easy on him. They go to the Fantasy suite. They get to the room. There's a calypso band outside playing in front of the room. I think this was hilarious. I thought it was hilarious to just, you know, you're a guy who's like, got the woman back to your room. She's a great. You know, she's happy to be there. Everyone's happy. Oh, we're all consenting adults that are about to have sex. And it's like, there's a guy outside playing a steel drum. And I'm like, oh, get out of here. What are you doing? Like. Like, I was. We were about to start making out. This is all about to happen. I don't need any speed bumps. Also, you have the band just outside the room. Like, everyone else in the hotel is like. It's like. They're just, like, playing. They're like, they're having sex. They're having sex. They're having sex. They're having sex. They're having sex. In this room, you will find the couple from earlier today that was getting drunk having sex. They're having sex. They're having sex. They're having Sex. Like it's like. Like I. I just think it's really funny to have this band like, what are you guys doing out here? Oh, that couple over there, they're having sex in there. So we're playing. So they go back, they wake up in the morning, they show turtles banging. They show the birds and the bees. They do the whole thing that the Bachelor does. They. Will you say goodbye at the beach? It's a big goodbye to me because nothing is talked about because Mel won't open up. It was just two people on a date that had a good time and you know, made out after. Like it wasn't. There was really no new news. Here we go to Cindy's date. Cindy. They're gonna go on a. Cindy who the whole show is just up to this point is just looking off to see. They're basically setting up an edit where Cindy is. Got a lot on her mind. That's what they keep kind of pushing is that Sydney's off, you know, in. In turn is in deep thought on the beach. Well, does Mel like me as much as I like him? It feels like Sydney is attached to an idea more than she is a guy because she is convinced they have all this stuff in common. But I don't know if it's shown on screen. I don't really see it as much as she does, but she sees it. She is Google eyed. She is in. Mel, I think, checks a lot of boxes for her and what she's looking for. And now she's obsessed with the idea of a guy like Mel. I don't think that they really have a lot in common. They haven't really talked that much. I. I don't know. It doesn't. It feels like Cindy is like on step a thousand and we're all sitting on step five being like, what? How'd you get there? Because they go on the boat and you can see her questions are very like detective like. She's asking a lot of questions. He's giving nothing. The boat that, you know, I. She's like, well, how do you feel about me? He's like, not. He's always speaking in riddles. Nothing really of substance. They go to the stingray thing. He's standing away from the stingray. To me, she took that as he's afraid of stingrays. I'm taking it as he's getting farther away from you. He's not being. Again, this is a moment to go. I'm really afraid. I. I've. All I can think of is, you know, the, the guy from, you know, the Australian guy, you know, the, with the kids that are in Dancing with the Stars. Like, I, I don't know. I, I, you know, what's his name? Whatever his name is, you know, Irwin, Steve, you know, all I can think of is Steve Irwin getting stung by a stingray. And I don't know, are we gonna die? And the guy's like, we haven't had a bite in 24 years. And like, he doesn't really go to her. He kind of like goes off on his own and deals with it on his own in the, like, the side of the water. And to me, if I'm Cindy, I'm like, well, we didn't really connect on me taking care of him that much. And she even says at one point, she's like, well, you were in the deeper part of the water. So I couldn't even stand over there. It's like, well, isn't that by design a little bit. So they have this weird stingray day where he doesn't really. Where he's afraid of the stingrays. Mel thought the stingray was the size of this coffee cup. I don't know who would ever think that. I don't know what Magic School Bus episode he was watching. And then they come back to the nighttime portion of the date, and they, even before they're showing Cindy looking in the mirror, this is like, it feels like this is Cindy's dream that we're living in. And then she starts asking questions. And Cindy really does act like a detective. She has, like, formed a case. She's like. And she brings up his ex wife, and she says something that we didn't know. She's like, it took you a long time to get married to your now ex wife. What took you so long then? And why would it be any different now? Which is a very good question. Mel then goes into how big a decision this is. It's like, no one's saying it's a small decision, but it is a decision that you're here to make. And he's like, well, no, it's about finding a partner. It's not about getting engaged. And it's like, well, I'm looking to get engaged to someone who loves me so much that they love being my partner so that we can kind of move on with our life. And he's like, no, I'm looking to sit in this purgatory, we're dating and we're getting to know each other phase. He basically says that. And then he does this Weird math equation. He's like, you know, I don't want to just get married to someone for five years and then get divorced and then marry someone for 10 years. And now you're 15 years in with two wives. It's like, what word problem did we just do? What are you talking about? Yeah, if you marry two people in the course of 15 years, you'll have two wives. I don't know what you're even talking about, Mel. Like, it feels like. And where Cindy. The reason Cindy's getting a lot more answers. And you could see at the end, she's like, I'm happy to hear your perspective. Like, you could see her. She wants answers. And I think it's to snap herself out of love with him. I think she's going from. And that was kind of the big reveal at the end to me when we, you know. Next time on the Bachelor. It was her saying, you could feel her energy change. And this is my thought, this is my opinion. It felt like in the beginning, she's, like, obsessed with the idea of Mel and, oh, my God, we can have this love. And we met in this weird way. And look at he. He. He's this. And he's active, and he's. You know, he's got his own thing going on, and I got my own thing going on, and I'm active, and we're. We'd be a great couple. And then she gets to the reality, and that's via his answers because she doesn't laugh through the uncomfortable parts. It's always uncomfortable with Cindy because she's asking good questions, and then he's forced to just talk. And I think at the end of this episode, she kind of heard the answers, and that's why we ended the way we ended with Will they? Won't they? I don't think they do. I think she's gonna say, I've gotten the answers I needed, and this won't go beyond us just being me and my friend Mel for eternity. And I think that's what Mel's looking for, to be the boyfriend who's called the friend by the kids. And they wear fake wedding rings, but they never actually make it official. I. That's my opinion. Fun episode. I always love fantasy suites. We'll be back next week. Boom.