The Art of Talking Sh*t with Jay Jurden - CHIT CHAT WEDNESDAY

Summary

The JTrain Podcast: "The Art of Talking Sh*t" with Jay Jurden

Chit Chat Wednesday – November 19, 2025
Host: Jared Freid
Guest: Jay Jurden (Comedian, Hulu special "Yes, Ma'am")

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Episode Overview

This episode of the JTrain Podcast features comedian Jay Jurden for "Chit Chat Wednesday." Jay, with a new Hulu comedy special "Yes, Ma’am," joins Jared Freid for an energetic, joke-filled discussion on the comedy grind, the evolution of stand-up, the art of talking sh*t, and expanding on viral social media moments. The pair also riff on crowd work trends, AI booties, and play games that showcase Jay’s signature sharp wit.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Craft of Stand-Up and Comedy Specials

• High Standards in Comedy:

  • Jared and Jay discuss how a comedy special should be "joke-dense" and not simply a formality, reflecting years of hard work and evolution.
    • "I think a special shouldn't be a formality. It should be an honor... a culmination. For me, it was kind of a send off and a celebration of these jokes I’ve been working on for close to three years." – Jay (02:10)
  • Both comedians value respecting the audience and ensuring each performance is worth both the ticket price and their time.
    • "There’s a respect and a reverence I have for people who go to work, come home from work, and decide they want to go watch us work with the money they made from work." – Jay (03:31)

• Comedy’s Current Landscape:

  • They critique current trends where comedians pad out specials or focus excessively on crowd work for social clips, expressing pride in crafting curated material.

2. The Ethics & Evolution of Crowd Work

• Performers’ Responsibility:

  • Jay calls out comedians who overuse crowd interaction, stating that if a comic uses an audience member for more than ten minutes, "you gotta pay them something" since the comic will profit off the subsequent online content.
    • “After a certain amount of interaction... past 10 minutes, I feel like you gotta pay them something. You got to cover their drinks, you got to pay for the Uber… you’re gonna make money from the YouTube clip.” – Jay (06:16)

• Quality Over Gimmicks:

  • Both agree crowd work should serve the act, not be a commercial for future ticket sales:
    • "If someone's watching or listening… and you're at a show where half of it is spent asking, 'Where are you from? What do you do?'... you are now at a commercial taping to try and make that comedian money for their next show." – Jared (05:22)

3. Turning Social Media Moments Into Bit

• Game: Expand On That (13:41 – 31:00)

  • Jay provides behind-the-scenes context and riffs on his own popular tweets.
  • "Being queer means you get the most disgusting videos from the sweetest guys."
    • Jay explains how even the most wholesome acquaintances send explicit congratulatory messages—“butts and boners”—as a celebration of professional milestones.
    • "All the feudal lords come to me on my birthday, and they bring their best ass or their best dick." – Jay (19:41)

• Comedian Vulnerability:

  • Discussion of post-special anxiety: Jared shares that instead of explicit content, he half-dreads receiving texts from exes merely reminded of his persona by his new special.
    • "I curled up a little bit expecting a blowback text from an ex... because I was like, I'm on a platform and they're reminded of me." – Jared (19:48)

4. AI, Booties, and Resource Priorities

• Game: Expand On That—AI Booty (27:04 – 29:23)
  • Jay explains the eco-absurdity of using precious water resources to generate synthetic AI butts when the world is already well-supplied:
    • "There’s absolutely too much real ass out there on God’s green earth to be using water to make AI booty." – Jay (27:04)
    • "Not only that, the number of asses is growing at a pretty steady rate... If we run out of water, the ass won't even be clean." – Jay (28:56)
  • Jared praise’s Jay’s ability to connect real-world implications with absurdity, calling it "the most poignant thing that's ever been said on a podcast" (29:23).

5. Community, Heritage, and Respect in Comedy

• Cultural Representation:

  • Jay and Jared reflect on how comedy has been a vital outlet for marginalized communities, especially Jewish and Black entertainers.
    • "The hardest audiences are your own people, the people that look like your family." – Jared (24:07)
    • "It would be disrespectful to this thing that has changed my life... if I just kind of did it shitty and still wanting all this praise." – Jay (23:26)

• Comedy’s Role in Society:

  • The hosts consider the impact of comedy in news consumption and political discourse, noting the fine line comedians should walk between access and integrity.
    • "If comedy is the only way people get the news... then guess what? Conversely, if you're doing a podcast and you say, 'Oh, the Epstein files are so important,' and then J.D. Vance calls you up and says, 'No, they're not,' and then you say, 'No, they're not,' I think that's bullshit." – Jay (25:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Comedy Standards:

  • “A special shouldn’t be a formality. It should be an honor.” – Jay (02:10)

• On Crowd Work Monetization:

  • "After a certain amount of interaction... you gotta pay them something." – Jay (06:16)

• On Queer DMs:

  • “All the feudal lords come to me on my birthday, and they bring their best ass or their best dick.” – Jay (19:41)

• On AI and Real Resources:

  • “There's absolutely too much real ass out there on God’s green earth to be using water to make AI booty.” – Jay (27:04)

• On Comedy & Community Heritage:

  • “Part of the reason we both understand the history, the lineage, the importance and the power of comedy is because black people and Jewish people, it was some of the only entertainment avenues they had.” – Jay (23:26)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00–10:00]: Introduction, Jay’s special, comedy work ethic, pride in material
• [10:06–11:14]: Jay's writing process, modular set structure, touring and road work
• [13:21–19:22]: "Expand On That" game – Turning tweets into live stories, queer digital culture
• [27:04–29:23]: "Expand On That" – AI imagery, water usage, and the abundance of real assets
• [31:28–36:07]: "Talk Sh*t or Get Bit" game – Riffing on pop culture (Kim Kardashian, sunless days, Thanksgiving)

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Engaging Games & Final Thoughts

• "Expand On That":

  • Jay extemporizes on his own tweets with live anecdotes, peeking behind the comedy-writing curtain.

• "Talk Sh*t or Get Bit":

  • Jay lets loose with critical wit on topical subjects—Kim Kardashian as a lawyer, short winter days, and Thanksgiving food.

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Call to Action

• Jay Jurden’s Special "Yes, Ma’am" is out now on Hulu.
  • "The first month matters. Don’t put this off.... This is a free show you’re getting right now, you just heard the most poignant thing that’s ever been said on a podcast about asses and water and AI... so you owe some money and your money is your click." – Jared (30:12)

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Follow Jay Jurden (@jayjurden)

• See him on the road – new hour, fresh jokes
• Catch "Yes, Ma’am" on Hulu

Closing Words

Jay and Jared close the episode with mutual appreciation, a blend of comic camaraderie, and a nudge to watch, laugh, and support stand-up that respects both the craft and its audience.
“You exemplify your ideals... your comedy is good and you know it’s good and you present it as such.” – Jay to Jared (22:24)

Transcript

[A]

Chit Chat Wednesday for you to listen to. I have a guess who will be your new boo. You're gonna love them too. Chit Chat Wednesday. I hope you're having a good day today. I hope it's gonna be a perfect week, too. I hope you have a nice poo. It's a ch Chat Wednesday too. Hello, and welcome to the J Train podcast. Is J Train Jerry free coming to you live from Delray Beach, Florida? That's right, every Wednesday is a Chit Chat Wednesday where I speak with a comedian, a friend, an expert. Today I have all three. They have a new special on Hulu. That's right, New special on Hulu called Yes, ma'. Am. They are a friend, a comedian, and an expert in shit talking. Jay Jordan, thank you for coming on the show.

[B]

Thank you for having me, Jared. I'm doing well. I also want to say having a special feels very good because I specifically remember when I messaged you about a joke in your special, specifically the Justin's peanut butter cup joke.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

That.

[A]

That is I. And I listen, the special is great. Jay is a fantastic comedian. You need to go see Jay on the road. You got dates. Give the dates now. Let's get all the plugs out of the way. Well, first of all, people need. Need to go watch the special because not only is it funny, but I would say joke dense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You are firing. It's a machine gun. And I know you take a lot of pride in that. I. I know we work hard, we go up and you want joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. And it. I'm sure you're the same as me. It angers you. You see a special where you're like, I've been here for five minutes. What's going on? This better be the biggest setup of all time.

[B]

And I think that, like, your special should be impressive. I mean, we've long kind of passed the days where a special was so exclusive I'd never have heard anything before because now we have to kind of of like beta test our material and bring it back and make it perfect for the special. But I should be impressed. I think a special shouldn't be a formality. It should be an honor. It should be something to celebrate. It should be a culmination. For me, it was kind of a send off and a celebration of these jokes I've been working on for close to three years. So I was happy packaging all of these things and making sure that people got all these jokes. They got to hear the dirty versions of the jokes. They'd only seen on this night show. They got to see the beginnings of jokes that were finally finished in the don't tell set. They got to see tweets that became tiny front facing videos that became jokes eventually.

[A]

I love what you're saying. It is a, you know, this is a progressive way to look at it because you have to be. You have to be. Because I have a lot of insecurities as far as like if I'm. And I like what you said about the beta testing. Like when we do a front facing camera or a shit talk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you're like, that could be a bit. That, that's what. That's actually a respect to stand up, to be like, this is not the same as this.

[B]

Yeah. And on stage it can get there. But if I want you to pay money to see me, if I want you to pay a subscription price to watch it, I do want it to be polished. There's a respect and a reverence I have for the people who go to work, come home from work and decide they want to go watch us work with the money they made from work. I just, it's something about like my mom was a teacher, blue collar upbringing. Love theater. I just, I never want someone to feel like they were scammed. I hate.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I hate. I really. And I, I hate that sometimes now comedy is like, oh, look at how much money I tricked these people into giving me instead of, look at this artistry and this performance in this kind of really, really masterful thing that is worth this patronage. I, it's like, it's my biggest pet peeve.

[A]

Well, I, I love what you're saying because if you watch, you know, if you go follow Jarden on Threads.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're going to get a different show.

[B]

Threads. Sponsoring the New York Comedy Festival shout out Threads.

[A]

Okay. So I, I didn't know that. So Jay is on threads. And, and you know, I was gonna ask you. You're. You're talking shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're saying things that every, you know, I wouldn't say it out on threads because here my reasoning would be I'd be exhausted. I gotta talk about it. I gotta go on Jared's podcast and I gotta. And, and also you have to live up to it. You have to. And not that you don't. You're funny and great. It's like. Or not that I don't. It's just like, do I have the, the confidence? You know, like I. Takes a lot of confidence. Because what you're saying is a protection of Stand up. Because you say, you know what you're saying right now. Like, if I us talking here on a podcast, I agree with you. Where it's like, if I was at a show, if someone's watching or listening right now, and you're at a show where half of it is spent asking, where are you from? What do you do? And how did you guys get together? And doing crowd work, you are now at a commercial taping to try and make that comedian money for their next show.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's kind of crazy. And I'm sure you've said similar things. So when we call it out here, that is us saying, first of all, that won't happen at our shows.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And second of all, we don't want to make you feel badly about the ticket you're purchasing, because sometimes some people go, I just want to be in the room with the person I see on TikTok, which I totally understand too. So I'm not trying to shame someone for being at that show, but if you're there with a friend who doesn't know the show, there's a screw job that's been done.

[B]

Yeah, there is a. To me, there's just a. I may. I jokingly said this, but I also think it's somewhat true. I think after a certain amount of interaction, if you. If you, like, really milk your kind of interaction with the. With the crowd member, if you do, like, oh, you know what I'll give people, if once it reaches the threshold of past 10 minutes, I feel like you got to pay them something. You got. You got to cover their drinks. You got to pay for the Uber, you guys, because you're gonna make money from the YouTube clip. And they don't know that when they're sitting. You know what I mean?

[A]

So that they did you a favor. They, you know, listen, I was at a show. A woman's phone rang in the middle of the show. I pick up the phone. I. To me, they invited that by having a phone that was on and going against the rules. If I saw some woman's phone on their table and I said, give me that phone, and I just started dialing their daughter, like, okay, they're now all on the cast and crew. You know, this is the whole thing.

[B]

Even if it's not money, I think as a. As a performer, you better take them aside after the show, give them free merch. You better take every picture with them, because they're kind of making your. A big chunk of whatever you're advertising now. And so sometimes when I talk shit about kind of like super crutch heavy crowd work, because to me, crowd work can be what you just said. I do flow. I do flow chart crowd work. In my special, if I say I'm from the South. Anyone here from the South, I have written 10 jokes. This person gets to say Texas. And they also get the feeling like, I've never said that to anyone before, but I've written 10 jokes. I've written a joke for every Southern state. So I think there are elements of the ephemeral nature and interactive elements of crowd work that I use all the time. And I have nothing against actual fun. Little.

[A]

Ooh.

[B]

This person laughed really loud at this sex joke. I'm gonna give him a little tag back to my stuff. I don't love. I don't love. How'd you meet? When was that? What was he doing? What was she turning? I need you to get. You get three questions, and I need there to be a pop, right?

[A]

And you got to be going somewhere. Yeah. It's like, you know, I might be asking someone a question, because I'm trying to get into my bit of the topic that I'm asking about.

[B]

Yes. They go, jared, what's the difference between West Palm and Fort Myers? You go, I'm glad you asked.

[A]

I'm glad you asked. I. They're. You know that video. So when you have something like, I. That video right now. I. I was at the gate. It's funny. I. I'm sure you have this, too. You. I'm in the airport, and I was. I was talking to a friend. I was with a friend at the airport, and they were like. They kind of saw my face, like, all of a sudden, like, they saw my eyes light up, and all of a sudden. And then they're like, what? And I go, the gate for Fort Myers is right across from the gate for West Palm Beach. And they're like, what do you. Who cares? And I'm like. I'm like, this is a joke. This is a setup to a joke. This is. This is Jews to the right, Catholics to the left. This is. And it's. And I was like. And. And, you know, that's the fun of being a comedian. You're like, the puzzle pieces fit. There it is. You know, you.

[B]

You gave me this today. The. The black white equivalent would be a flight to Memphis. Be next to a flight to Nashville. You'd be like, well, look at us.

[A]

Very funny. So are you. The. The special's out. We want everyone to go watch it. Hulu make It a night on the couch. Make it a date night. Make it. You're gonna laugh. You're gonna laugh every 10 seconds. You. Yes, ma'. Am. It is on Hulu. You're on the road. You have a whole new hour on the road.

[B]

Yes. I was lucky because this took the special. Took a while to kind of figure out where it was going to go. And so, like, I did it and I had like a basically an hour 30. And I'd be like rotating certain sections because, like, I kind of write in a modular style where I can go, this is the bucket. These are kind of the places that I put the jokes in there. And some of the connective tissue can't change, but a lot of it can. So I was like, oh, I have this extra 30 in April and I worked really hard and kind of did a bunch of workout shows in Brooklyn. And I'm trying to think around the city. And so then I ended up having. When that was like 45, I was happy to be like, okay, I'll do 45 and then I'll do some old. And then naturally, as a comic, you just keep kind of tinkering. And some people don't, but I'm a tinkerer. I like tweak and move and tweak. And so then I was like, oh, this is 50. Okay, I'm. I'm happy. And then 50, 50 with a great crowd, you go, that's actually 56. I'm good, right? So that's how that happened. But now I'm on the back on the road, kind of finish out the year and then we're going to start off the year again. So it's been great.

[A]

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[B]

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[B]

Let's play.

[A]

Okay, let's play a game. The first. Because I. I like this game. Because I know that just like I told you the story of how I came up with West Palm versus Fort Myers. Okay. There's a story behind every tweet and tick tock. It's like. And people go, are they true? It's like, everything's true. And then I make it funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, yes. So I wanted. It's called. We're gonna call this game Expand on that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm gonna give you your tweet. You're gonna expand on the thought that produced the tweet or the thread, whatever.

[B]

You know, I love it.

[A]

Okay. Being queer means you get the most disgusting videos from the sweetest guys.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Okay, expand on that.

[B]

Just so we're clear, that was this morning. And coincidentally, in one of the videos, I think the guy was trying to expand on that quite literally. So there are, okay, queer men right now, Gay men and bi men online, they have these kind of very sexual online personalities. They're feral, they're disgusting. It's all like this drool and devil emojis and everyone, like, they'll. It'll be a picture of me in a Speedo and people will be like, raw. Next question. And they'll be like, I need him in me. Like, just, you know, they say stuff and not to Me, they put it in the replies.

[A]

Okay, well, to the, you know, to maybe some of the women listening, like, this is an ex. This disgusting nature of men isn't exclusive to the straight men. You know, it's like, it's, it's interesting to hear from because I hear from so many women that are like, why would he send this? And it's like to hear you be like, yeah, it's in the replies. It's like they're being. You're saying it so plainly. And we, we understand the difference, you know, the danger inherent in a man, you know, being kind of like swimming like a shark in your replies.

[B]

You will lose your bid for mayor if you're.

[A]

You'Ll be out. So, so it is comforting, it can be comforting to a woman listening, being like, oh, this isn't even personal. It's not like my avatar was to this or to that. Yeah, it's just the disgusting baseline of any man. Straight, gay, bi, whatever you see yourself as.

[B]

I want everyone to notice, like any, any straight woman who thinks that, oh, straight men are so disgusting. I can't wait to be around gay men where things are going to be safe. You are in for the rudest awakening. First, they are going to lock you out of the bar. Secondly, they are going to be even filthier because there is a tacit. There's a tad bit more permission. So when a straight guy says something crazy under a straight woman's photo, everyone goes, what are you doing, man? What are you doing? What are you doing? You're crazy. What are you doing? When a gay guy says something crazy under a gay guys photo, most of the time we go, is he cute? Hey.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Creepy is not cute. Even if he's not cute, we go, okay, is he ugly in a hot way? What are we working with?

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Yeah. Is this a Frankenstein's monster situation where it's grotesque but, but it's 65.

[A]

Well, if a woman, if women were as disgusting as men in that way, I would do the same thing. I'd be like, what am I dealing with? It's not like I think of like.

[B]

A lot of men going, honk, honk.

[A]

Right, right. I, I think of like men with women or men just with any, any. Whoever they're into. It's like an Iron Chef contestant. You're like, all right, what do we got here? Can I make out of this? You know, you get the, you get the mystery ingredient. You go, yeah, would I?

[B]

You know, I didn't know I was gonna put sea urchin in this. But okay, so there was so the. The. The sweet. Some of the sweetest boys I know. Like, and I mean, like, sweet in the sense they're like, I baked. I made. I made, like, a new holla. I'm working on a new braid for, like, truly some of the sweetest boys I know. People who do not let you leave their house without a gift. These people. Every now and then, I'll, like, be on my phone. I'll be like, oh, that. That's a. But that I didn't ask for. You know what? Actually, thank you. I didn't know I needed to believe.

[A]

Jake Cohen is sending you butt pictures.

[B]

Hey, here. Hey, man.

[A]

You said holla. And gay man shout out J. Cohen, friend of the pod.

[B]

But funny enough, Jared on Fire island, when I went with Tova and John Marco, Jake was there. And it was funny for John Marco to be, like, the new bit of, like, Jewish eye candy on Fire Island. It was wild. You just.

[A]

You created two enemies, you know, opposite sides of the room.

[B]

And then Jake started parading him around. I was like, don't show these people an appetizer they can't eat. Like, oh, don't do that.

[A]

Hilarious.

[B]

They can't nibble on that.

[A]

So on this tweet, if you're gonna expand on that, yeah, being queer means you get the most disgusting videos from the sweetest guys. What video did you get? Was there one that made you tweet that? Oh, feel free to share a description, but you don't have to out, you know, anyone. You know, protect the innocent.

[B]

Okay, so because I've been doing a lot of promo for the special, a lot of clips have been going up. And so, like, some of the clips, when people say they like a clip, some people will be like, oh, I love this clip. Every now and then, a person who I haven't talked to in a while, they'll be like, oh, I'm so happy for you. I love this clip. Some people, as, like, a congratulations, have been sending, you know, butts and boners. And so that's been.

[A]

Butts and boners. Like, it's almost like greeting a king on their birthday. Like, here is my butt. Like, and I give, you know, sustenance to the right. I present you with a boner as a congratulations on your big achievement.

[B]

All the. All the feudal lords come to me on my birthday, and they bring their best ass or their best dick.

[A]

You know what's funny about that? When my special came out, I was like, I had, like, you know, I had this Kind of. I, I, I, I curled up a little bit expecting a blowback text from an ex. Not even because I was bad to the ex or because I was said something about in the special, but because I was like, I'm on a platform and they're reminded of me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now it's like, well, fuck that guy on his best day. And it's weird. It's, it's, it's really, it annoyed me that I felt that way because I.

[B]

You expected an ex to be like, he talks about being single so much in the special. Well, they wouldn't be single if he would have said, like, you expected that.

[A]

Right. You get like a little bit of. And I, and I, I hated that I had that anxiety because I'm like, I've done nothing to anybody that I would, you know, I have regrets, but I don't think you know what I mean. I'm like, why is this ruining? This false thing I'm creating in my head is like, ruining. And it's funny to hear that you're like, the butts and boners are coming at me. Like, I'm envious a little bit.

[B]

They really are. I mean, also, I haven't shared some of the clips, but there's some parts of the special where I talk about like fun, like three way stuff. And like, some of the, some of the jokes are sexual enough in nature that someone could watch the special and be like, oh, I love this joke. And then send me something. And I'd be like, well, you did watch. You did the reading, so thank you. So for sure.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Know the work.

[A]

Okay, bring them on.

[B]

And also I'll add, hey, girls. Specifically girls. Boys, don't do it. If you like Jared special on Netflix and if you like the pot Cindams, send them some butt. Send them.

[A]

Yeah, I'll take a, I'll take a piece of butt. Like, I was.

[B]

Okay, Scott Galloway, we need to talk. I think part of this male learning this epidemic could be solved in if people were having more innocent sexting. Not harassment, but just little, hey, you know, it wouldn't hurt. I would. I got a meeting. That's been a rough week.

[A]

I, Is there any way Scott Galloway stuff gets. So I was on another podcast and like, the, the Scott Galloway stuff gets so divisive right away. And I'm like, it does feel like he's coming from a good place and like, him and I would have a nice conversation, but then it gets thrown into this. Like, again, like, I don't have the. You are out there being like, these comedians, they're doing stupid shit. And I'm like, I'm like, power to you. I'm. I'm just a giant fucking wuss, you know?

[B]

Like, you're not a wuss. I think you, I think you live and exemplify your ideals and you're kind of like, your, your comedy is good and you know it's good and you present it as such. I think once my big argument, and this is for. Because some people are like, oh, Jade, you dislike other comics. I love other comics. I shout out the comics. I love stand up comedy. My big issue is sometimes people are bragging about monetary success. But I go, but you did scam these people. Or you did kind of present shoddy work. Like, if you were an architect, people would be worried about their house.

[A]

Right? And you and, and I do know, you and I, we love it. We love it. It's, it's, it's. It's a representation of something we love in a way that we don't love. You know, it's. And that's like, it's hard because I've noticed this just like, no one cares, you know, our complaints, you know, like.

[B]

And I've if, okay, there's a world where I can make this historical and part of an American story about marginalized groups. And part of the reason we both understand the history, the lineage, the importance and the power of comedy is because black people and Jewish people, it was some of the only entertainment avenues they had. So I don't look at comedy as like, oh, I'm just trying to trick people into how I make it. I go, no, this is like a really cool thing that black people have done for years, that Jewish people have done for years very skillfully. And so it would be disrespectful to this thing that has changed my life and changed so many people's lives around me. If I just kind of did it shitty and still wanting all this praise.

[A]

Yeah, and there's people you have to answer to, you know, like, yeah, there are, there, there are black eventually that eventually will also not even in, like, the people they, you know, the hardest audiences I've always thought are your own people, the people that look like your family. They're the most difficult audiences. Like, yeah, when I go up in front of Jews, it's like, like, they're like, you better.

[B]

Or Jared or Jared. They go, listen, don't give us any of this Jewish 101 stuff. This is an advanced level course. You better specific for me.

[A]

You better. Yeah, right. And you better, like, say it with love and respect and all those things. And it is. And you kind of get people that are like, you know, they'll say to you, like, they're just like, they'll like what you did. You represented me, you're representing them. And you can't do a bad job of that, especially with the importance a lot of people put on comedy from your own communities, so to speak.

[B]

And now if there's an outsized amount of importance placed on comedy from a political standpoint, from a kind of like, cultural thought standpoint, from a leading trends, from an entertainment standpoint, if comedy is the only way people get the news, you know, in a post Jon Stewart world, if comedy is the only way people really can ingest the news, John Oliver, Seth Meyers, then guess what? Conversely, if you're doing a podcast and you say, oh, oh, the Epstein files are so important, and then J.D. vance calls you up and says, no, they're not. And then you say, no, they're not, I think that's bullshit.

[A]

Right. Right. Well, now you're a pawn.

[B]

You're. Yeah.

[A]

The job of the comedian. I, I is, in my opinion, is the house is on fire over there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Tell us why you think it's on fire.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if someone's telling you why you think it's on fire, you're now not even a comedian anymore, so.

[B]

Or if the king goes, it's not on fire. Don't ever say that. And you go, yes. Instead of going, I couldn't hear you over the flames. What? Like, you have to. Even if you're scared of the, even if you're scared of the access you have. I say this because if you have a super important and influential politician on your show, I think the first thing you have to do is remind them, this is going to be a comedy show. I'm going to try to stay within the lines that grant me access to you, but I am going to go up to that line and go, hey, man, can I say something bad? And, like, it's right. Not even in, like, a way that's going to get you tackled by Secret Service, but at least in a way where that, that politician isn't going to be like, oh, good dog. Right.

[A]

Right. It's like, it's like the, what do they say the best negotiations are? When people, both sides think they lost.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, the best interview is when, when someone walks away going, did that go okay?

[B]

Yeah. And, and even, like, if you laugh with them, it shouldn't be a fawning laugh. I think it should be like a. Oh, you got me. Or.

[A]

Oh, right. Who brought it? Yeah, let's do one more. Expand on that. You ready?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. It's absolutely too much. It's absolutely too much real ass out there on God's green earth to be using water to make AI booty. I'm wondering when I read that. So I, I was. There's absolutely too much real ass out there on God's green earth to be using water to make AI booty. So I didn't know that AI uses a ton of water to like, function. I don't think a lot of people know that. It is something I've heard recently.

[B]

You have to cool the heating system.

[A]

So water is necessary. So you're. You're taking water away from other resources. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What is the AI booty that you saw that made you comment? Cuz I know where these things come from.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you see an AI booty? Is there. Is there AI ass out there that I'm missing? Is there?

[B]

It was like a AI like, you know how everything is like these kind of. You can easily tell AI cartoons. It was that animation style. But like with the woman with the big butt in a thong and just like, no, there's like, there's people who can draw. There's actual asses already. I don't, I don't need this third worst thing.

[A]

Right? And that's the, the argument for regulation is very easy to come by via that route. And sometimes when we're like, we need regulation, it's like no one wants to listen because it's a boring subject. I think if you brought this to Congress and was like, hey, there's a lot of women at the Fontainebleau in Miami whose asses are perfectly fine to be showing on video. And we do not need water being used for AI to create asses we already have on Miami Beach.

[B]

And not only that, the number of asses is growing at a pretty steady rate. We could even get those numbers up. The water we have it. It is a limited quantity that we will. We can run out of water. If we, if we, if we think about it, we're not going to run out of ass, but if we run out of water, the ass won't even be clean.

[A]

It's. It's actually the most poignant thing that's ever been said on a podcast because I actually totally agree with you. I want to play one more game because I do Chitchat Wednesday here with Jay Jordan. At Jerden on all platforms. Yes, ma'. Am. Is the special and it is out on Hulu right now. So here's what I want you to do. The link to the Hulu special is in the bio of this episode, both on YouTube and on all listening platforms. I want you to go to the link and I want you to hit reminder, whatever that thing is that lets you watch the special and puts it on your queue. And also a reminder, the people here. We're having Jay on. When did it come out Last week?

[B]

It came out on Friday. It came out on November 7th, so.

[A]

November 7th. Let me just let people behind the curtain. The first month matters. Don't put this off. We want the first month. We want watches views. This is a free show you're getting right now. You just heard the most poignant thing that has ever been said on a podcast about asses and water and AI is I think you owe some money and your money is your click. So. And you all have Hulu. You like the Bachelor? That's on Hulu.

[B]

Okay. Yes, yes. Bachelor Nation. I talk about the golden Bachelor in the special.

[A]

Wait, you do?

[B]

I talk about the Golden Bachelorette. I talk about the Golden Bachelorette and how I. I wish they would have cast an old hoe. What I say is, I say I wanted her to show up to the Bachelor mansion and be like, yeah, I'm 67, but this snapper still has some bite.

[A]

I love that. Okay, okay, ready? This is called talk shit or get bit. I'm going to present you. Okay, so talk, get bit is an old saying that my friends and I have been saying for years. Talk, get bit. Now, the premise of this game is I'm going to give you a subject. You can say, you can talk whatever shit you want on it, or you can tell me to get bit and be like, there's no shit to talk. Ready?

[B]

Okay. All right. Ready?

[A]

Talk, shit, get bit. Kim Kardashian becoming a lawyer.

[B]

Ooh, talking shit about it. Kim, I'm happy that you're helping exonerate prisoners, but I'm very upset that you, as a lawyer, think it's okay to put out fake pubic hair to stop it. There's got to be some sort of copyright infringement. I don't like this. You're putting out merkins. I don't like it there. Once again, we do not need to be making children put together fake pubic hair when we have more than enough pubic hair on God's green, fuzzy earth. What's happening? What's going on what's the story behind.

[A]

You're like the miss Frizzle of comedy. You take something as simple as American fake pubes and related to the world around us, and we get to learn. This is great.

[B]

Jared. I would argue these Americans are anti American. You can't.

[A]

Yes, I agree.

[B]

Yeah. You can't keep doing this. We allowed it. With the nipples. We allowed it. And that might have been a step too far. Kim. Let people celebrate their natural bodies. I also understand that maybe people who suffer a lot of laser in the past, they can't grow as much pubic hair as they used to.

[A]

They're out of the game.

[B]

Don't know what you got till it's gone. I'm sorry. You are the person who paved down a parking lot. That's. You did that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I understand if we're talking about some of the alopecia pussies. I get it. I get it.

[A]

Right? Kim Kardashian with her look. It would be very weird to think that she could be in those bikinis without us seeing some hair.

[B]

But now she wants us to see.

[A]

And now she wants us like, what is it, Kim? Yeah, it's a good point.

[B]

Some. Some of the G strings look like I'm in between her legs. I don't.

[A]

Okay. Shorter days. Talk get bit o.

[B]

Shorter days. Oh. Because the solstice, um, you know, depression is gonna bite me. I get seasonal depression a little bit, but. Yeah. Son, what are you doing? Son? Big. The sun. I'm not, like, being in New York or using slang. Son, what you doing? Come back out. Come out, son. I came out. You can come out. Be out all the time. It's rude. It dropped to 4030. It was. It was snowing in November.

[A]

I mean, a good part of the reason I'm in Delray Beach, Florida, right now is the shorter day. Like, I am. Like, I need a little sun. I need the windows to be shining. I was New York City. I mean, but that's the fun of New York City. It's why it's such a great drinking town. It goes good with the bad. You know, it is.

[B]

It is fun to kind of go home at night when you have a coat, but you've been in the bar and you're getting into the cab. That's a fun night. Because in the summer, everyone wants to walk home or bike home. But I don't love the shorter days because my. I'm being thrown off when I. When it's dark outside. My brain. I've been on this earth For a while, when it's dark out, I still go, oh, seven, not four.

[A]

Right. And, you know, we get to go back to the people who work to be able to watch us work. Yeah, we get to, like, be out during the day. There's some people that go into the office when it's dark and leave when it's dark. And you're like, right. Even the thought of it, I have the same feeling as you where I'm like, who could live that way?

[B]

That is. That's. That's a pain. As comics, we actually get surprised during. There's always a shift on the opposite end. So in the spring, whenever. Whenever it starts to be more daylight and then you have like a seven o' clock show out. The sun's still out at seven. Wait a minute. Right? Oh, my God. I. I can't waste this summer now. The sun's gone. So I'm already in evil comedian mode. At 4, I'm going into a 6pm show telling Butt sex, joke. Cause it's dark outside and I'm ruining these people's vacation. They just came from Ohio. They didn't know they were getting this.

[A]

That. That is a big comedian thing where people really don't like doing comedy during the daytime. We.

[B]

We hate. We. We hate bearing our shame when the sun is out.

[A]

Right?

[B]

We're like, no.

[A]

Oh, let's do one more. And then. Okay, we're gonna get out of here. Everyone go watch Jay Jordan special. Yes, ma' am on Hulu. Link in the bio. Okay. Talk, get bit. Thanksgiving.

[B]

Oh, you know what? Talk or get bit. I'm gonna talk a little bit of about Thanksgiving. Okay. Thanksgiving. And I'm not even gonna go like the decolonize the holiday route. Thanksgiving. We just want to celebrate food. It needs a brand change. Harvest, to me, because harvest is like, oh, it's like a harvest meal. It's like. There's no. There's no, like, indigenous stuff. But here's the other tough part about Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. I think that, like, the fights at Thanksgiving need to happen earlier because the Thanksgiving fights happen and Thanksgiving. And then you got to have those same fights at Christmas or Hanukkah. You know, we need. We need something a little bit earlier, and Thanksgiving's a little late.

[A]

This is the beauty of being Jewish. We have three Thanksgivings. We have Rosh Hashanah, and then we have Yom Kippur. So they're like pre Thanksgiving. And then we have Thanksgiving. So, you know, with those three, those are three opportunities. And the reason I love Thanksgiving so much is that Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur happen in a suit. So I have to. Those holidays are very jarring for me because after a summer of eating and stretchy, you know, bathing suits, I now have to get in a suit that I haven't worn since the last holiday season.

[B]

That. Okay, Thanksgiving being the third most Jewish holiday. That's that, yes. Is Thanksgiving an unofficial high holy Jewish holiday?

[A]

For me it is. I mean, that's a third opportunity to be yelled at about how I need to shave by my mom. So.

[B]

Okay, you know what? I'll get bit. I, I like Thanksgiving food. My husband, he loves. My husband loves baking, so there's always pies and stuff. I, I like, I like a food centric holiday. So you know what? I don't have any. I actually don't have that much bad to say about Thanksgiving. Now if it was stand up comedy, I got a bunch of shit to say.

[A]

Everyone go follow Jay Jordan at J. Jerden. Yes, ma'. Am. That's the special. Great to have you so pumped about the special. Congratulations.

[B]

Thank you, Jared. It means a lot.

[A]

Of course. Boom.