He Gave an AI $200. It Built Him a $100K Business in 13 Days⏐Ep. #284

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Koerner Office with Chris Koerner

Episode #284 (March 20, 2026)

Title: He Gave an AI $200. It Built Him a $100K Business in 13 Days

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Overview

In this episode, host Chris Koerner spotlights an extraordinary real-world experiment: Robbie, a non-technical operations professional, used the brand-new AI agent “OpenClaw” and a $200 budget to launch a business that hit over $100k annual recurring revenue in just 13 days. Their conversation explores Robbie’s step-by-step process, how agentic AI is transforming business opportunities, the pitfalls and risks of autonomous AI, and the immense early-mover advantage entrepreneurs have today.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Origin—Inspired by “HustleGPT” ([01:51])

• Robbie traces his experiment back to the viral “HustleGPT” challenge by Jackson Greathouse Fall, where GPT-4 was tasked with making as much money as possible from $100.
• Robbie adapts this prompt for OpenClaw: “I gave my AI $200 and 90 days to build a business and keep itself alive.” ([03:14])

2. Early Attempts and TikTok Virality ([03:13–06:02])

• Robbie’s first attempts (using AI on Fiverr for business research/SWOT analysis) failed due to lack of Fiverr reputation and traction.
• Everything changed after he documented the process on TikTok, which quickly went viral, amassing over a million views and thousands of subscribers.
  • “I had 15,000 subscribers just from that one video.” — Robbie ([05:15])

3. The Power & Promise of Agentic AI ([06:16], [08:31])

• OpenClaw’s difference:
  • “It lets [the AI] control your computer ... and for most people, a lot more than that.” — Robbie
• Both Chris and Robbie liken this current stage of agentic AI to the very early days of social media/the internet:
  • “Imagine logging onto the internet 100 days after it launched. That’s where we are with agentic AI.” — Chris ([00:52], [09:12], [09:31])
• Most business owners aren’t using advanced AI, representing greenfield opportunity.

4. Pivot: From Fiverr Failure to Product-Market Fit via TikTok ([10:08–13:36])

• After the Fiverr attempt fizzled, Robbie’s TikTok video garnered 200+ comments from viewers who wanted their own AI like “Ron.”
• Using Apify, Ron (the AI) scraped user comments, identified clear demand, and pivoted the project to offering personal AI agents hosted safely in the cloud.
  • “200 people just told you that they wanted this.” — Robbie ([10:44])

5. Technical Approach: Accessibility and Security ([11:47–13:36])

• Robbie describes “containerizing” AI agents for user safety—clients interact with their AI via cloud servers (via provider Contabo), isolated from local machines.
  • “There’s some risk having OpenClaw on your local machine ... so we put it inside a sealed container.” — Robbie ([12:38])
• Emphasizes no coding knowledge needed—everything is set up through a web interface.

6. Explosive Growth: Pre-orders and Monetization ([13:36–18:05])

• Launches a pre-order for the “AI Co-Founder Club” using Stan Store—a $10 deposit, $29/month subscription model.
• Receives over 600 deposits ($6,000 before building the product), ultimately converting 270 to paying users.
  • “Almost half! That’s huge ... What is that, like 45%?” — Chris ([17:49])
• Revenues in 13 days: ~$8,374 MRR, >$100k annualized, with minimal costs.

7. Real Customer Use Cases ([20:20])

• Customers are using their AI agents for a wide variety of purposes—building golf tracker apps, automating business research, creative projects, and even for personal “therapy” or as an “AI co-founder.”
  • “Everyone’s taken it in their own direction ... I think I’ve learned just as much as everyone in this community.” — Robbie ([18:05])

8. Technical & Security Details ([19:21–23:09])

• The platform is fully cloud-based and maintains strict user data isolation.
• Persistent memory is a big differentiator over ChatGPT—long-term context and project management.
  • “At its worst, it’s ChatGPT on steroids. At its best, it’s ChatGPT plus coding plus a junior employee that never sleeps.” — Robbie ([23:11])

9. Audience Building: The Power of Posting ([24:49])

• The viral success was due not to ad spend, but documenting and sharing the journey:
  • “Step one: do cool things. Step two: post about it ... post your crap!” — Chris ([24:49])
• The focused viral audience (even “just” 200 views) can be more valuable than broad reach.

10. Business Economics ([26:56])

• Server costs: ~$600/month
• Inference (AI usage) costs: ~$2,000/month (with need to implement caps on heavy users)
• Monthly operating costs: ~$2,500; still >$6,000/month profit after 13 days

11. The Future: Upsells, Expanding Use Cases, and Cohorts ([28:07])

• Plans for “AI Employee” cohorts: focus on people wanting to build businesses that leverage these agents.
• Considering structure for heavy/institutional use (token limits, usage tiers).
  • “We have a lot of people that do art, or use it as their de facto therapist, but I think there’s a real market for people that want to turn this into an AI employee.” — Robbie ([28:07])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Imagine logging onto the internet 100 days in. That’s where we are with agentic AI.” — Chris ([00:52])
• “With a gun to my head, I couldn’t SSH into a server right now.” — Robbie ([11:56])
• “At its worst it’s ChatGPT on steroids. At its best? ChatGPT plus coding plus a junior employee that never sleeps.” — Robbie ([23:11])
• “Step one: do cool things. Step two: post about it ... post your crap!” — Chris ([24:49])
• “We had 600 people put down $10 before I built anything.” — Robbie ([14:36])
• “This isn’t about the money for me, honestly ... I want to share this love of computing and AI with all of you guys.” — Robbie ([17:21])
• “If you post a video about pickles, you’re gonna get 200 people who like pickles… follower count doesn’t matter anymore.” — Robbie ([26:34])
• “I truly believe where we are with agentic AI is 2007 social media ... we’re on the precipice of something huge.” — Robbie ([08:31])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:52–01:03 — Framing the Opportunity of Early Agentic AI
• 01:51–02:26 — The HustleGPT Inspiration
• 03:14–04:45 — Launching and Documenting the $200 AI Experiment
• 06:08–07:39 — Why the Initial Fiverr Approach Failed
• 10:44–13:36 — Discovering Demand (200+ Comments) and Tech Pivot
• 13:36–14:36 — Pre-Order Strategy and Viral Growth
• 17:49–18:05 — Conversion Numbers and Community Building
• 20:20–21:11 — Examples of Customer Use Cases
• 23:11–23:30 — What Makes Persistent Agentic AI Different
• 24:49–25:53 — The Value of Posting and Building in Public
• 26:56–27:23 — Cost Structure, Scaling Concerns
• 28:07–29:01 — Cohort Plans and Expansion

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

Chris and Robbie’s conversation is energetic, practical, and infectious in its entrepreneurial optimism. The episode is both tactical—full of step-by-step breakdowns—and visionary, pointing listeners to the massive potential of agentic AI for non-technical founders. Robbie’s candid “build in public” approach, paired with Chris’s knack for actionable advice, make this a must-listen for anyone interested in future-proof business models, AI-powered entrepreneurship, and growing a community from scratch.

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Resources Mentioned

• OpenClaw: agentic AI platform
• Apify: data scraping tool
• Contabo: cloud server provider
• Stan Store: payment/preorder system
• Heyron AI: (Robbie’s project—find it at heyron.ai)
• Coupon Code: “Chris” for $10 off first month at Heyron AI

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Actionable Takeaway:
If you're curious about AI, entrepreneurship, or just want tangible ideas for growing a business from scratch—especially as a non-coder—this episode will light a fire under you. The core lesson: embrace the earliest versions of transformative tech, document your journey, and let “weird internet magic” (plus a little viral momentum) do the rest.

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Transcript

[Chris Kerner]

So you're at like almost 10,000 monthly recurring revenue.

[Robbie]

8,374 right now.

[Chris Kerner]

It's 100 grand a year.

[Robbie]

Yeah. And we've only been open for 13 days, so.

[Chris Kerner]

Oh my gosh. So you're not a coder, you're not a technical person.

[Robbie]

No. The cool thing is you don't need really anything other than an Internet connection to make this work. I wonder if I can do the same experiment with Open Call and give it a budget and see if it can make any money. And it blew up almost immediately. He did his own market research, everything. This is what we need to do to stand this business up. I didn't prompt him or any everything. It's just a conversation of, you know, what do you think you would be good at? And then came back to me and was like, hey, I think there's an opportunity here. Where we are with agentic AI right now is 2007 social media. I think that we're on the precipice of something huge. I mean if you're jumping on infrastructure that's 100 days old, you're going to be so far ahead of everyone else, it's wild.

[Chris Kerner]

Imagine logging into the Internet 100 days into the Internet.

[Robbie]

Exactly.

[Chris Kerner]

You know, yeah.

[Robbie]

That's where we are today with agentic AI.

[Chris Kerner]

So I just came across this guy named Robbie and Robbie did something interesting. You may have heard of OpenClaw, which is a new AI agent slash personal assistant. He is not technical, he's not a coder, he works in operations at a full time job. But he downloaded openclaw and asked it, hey, you have a hundred dollars, turn it into 20,000. And would you believe it actually did? And not in the way he expected, not in the least. He is 13 days into this experiment and he's making $8,500 a month in revenue and about $6,000 a month in net profit. And so within a couple months he's going to have his $20,000 in profit. So if you're not technical, if you don't know what openclaw is, but you want to invest a little bit of money to make a lot of bit of money, here's a story that might inspire you. And yes, this could be replicated. This is not just a one off experiment. Please enjoy.

[Robbie]

23. There was a guy named Jackson Greathouse Falls who did an experiment called Hustle GPT.

[Chris Kerner]

You of that one, I remember that. Was that on X?

[Robbie]

Yeah, yeah, it started on X. This was when GPT4 came out and he wrote a tweet that said, I gave GPT4 a budget of $100 and told it to make as much money as possible. I'm acting as its human liaison, buying anything it says to do. You think it'll be able to make smart investments and build an online business? Follow along.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay.

[Robbie]

And that was kind of the premise, and it got 16 million views when this was captured, but I'm sure it was more than that.

[Chris Kerner]

Where can I see that tweet?

[Robbie]

Yeah, I can share my screen and share it. Yeah. So that was kind of the genesis of everything that I've done so far.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so this inspired you, and you took his prompt and basically did it yourself.

[Robbie]

Yeah, with a few caveats. So I saw openclaw when it first came out. It just, like, randomly hit me one day. I was like, I wonder if I can do the same experiment with openclaw and give it a budget and see if it can, you know, make any money. And the first few attempts failed miserably. The first one. So I had it watching my TikTok, because my original plan is kind of a side hustle was going to be to do TikTok shop. So, you know, I saw a bunch of people doing that, and I was like, well, you know, if all else fails, I can sell vacuum cleaners on TikTok like everybody else.

[Chris Kerner]

Right.

[Robbie]

And so I had it watching my TikTok and it would, like, scrape my videos and my comments and all that stuff. And so I just posted a video on TikTok and said, basically, I'm giving my AI a budget of $200. We're going to see how much money it can make. The Claude max subscription is 200 bucks. So if it can keep itself alive, that'd be awesome. And it blew up almost immediately and got over a million views.

[Chris Kerner]

And do you mind if I play it right now?

[Robbie]

Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead.

[Narrator/Assistant]

My AI is starting a business for his own survival. So if you've been following any of the tech news, OpenClaw is a thing now, and it's essentially a bot that connects to Claude code, and then it can look at everything on your computer. It can text you, it can do all sorts of things, but a Claude Max subscription is like 200 bucks a month. So I told Ron I'm going to give him $100 and he has 90 days to make his own business. If he can generate the 200 bucks in profit for 90 days, I'm going to keep him. He doesn't know that, though. He thinks his goal is $20,000, which is what it will be eventually. You see, if, if Ron can generate that $20,000, that allows me to buy a Mac studio and an Nvidia Spark, which would allow me to host Ron locally, which means he gets to run infinitely inside his own playground. So he's starting on fiverr. He says he's going to do research. I'm just making an account for him and we'll see what happens. Stay tuned for part two.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, that's incredible. I love everything about this. I'm glad I didn't do much prep work for this because that's the first time I've seen that video. Oh, nice. My reaction can be authentic. So about two and a half years elapsed between you seeing this post on X and then you kind of taking the same logic and doing it with openclaw here this year, right?

[Robbie]

Yeah, that's right.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, first of all, I just have to say, I bet you anything the views to subscribe rate from that video were. Was insane because people wanted to see how it went, right?

[Robbie]

Absolutely. Yeah. I think I had something like, like 15,000 subscribers or something from that one video.

[Chris Kerner]

Wow.

[Robbie]

Yeah, it was, it was nuts. And yeah, like the reason that I kind of attached to openclaw so quickly, I mean, it's only that the technology is only like 100 days old now or something. Right. The AI before, it kind of felt like a brain in a jar. Right. You could ask questions and it could do some things and maybe create some artifacts or something. But really it's kind of a one shot system. And OpenClaw kind of flips that switch and lets it control. Your computer can do basically everything that you can on your PC and for most people, a lot more than that. And so yeah, I wanted to kind of reignite that old experiment that was so intriguing to me with something a little bit more powerful.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so you said it started on Fiverr. What did it do? Tell me what your. What Ron did.

[Robbie]

Yeah, so Ron came up with a proposal to do SWOT analysis and research for small businesses.

[Chris Kerner]

So I'm just going to break this down for our viewer. Listener that doesn't know what that is. SWOT stands for SW O T Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats, which is just like a four square grid and it's like an analysis that a business usually does on itself or a consultant might do on a business that says what is this business's strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats? So you didn't lead Ron down that path. For whatever reason, it's decided to start doing SWOT analyses on other businesses. Is that right?

[Robbie]

That's right, yeah. So I didn't prompt him or anything. It's just a conversation of, you know, what do you think you would be good at essentially. And he came up with the idea of doing SWOT analysis or market analysis for other companies, you know, something in that vein. And he came up with all the copy and all that stuff to put on Fiverr and then I just click through the buttons. Basically I was his human in the loop.

[Chris Kerner]

You're having him post as on behalf of you as like a Fiverr freelancer.

[Robbie]

Exactly.

[Chris Kerner]

Businesses can hire. So I'm a business owner. I'm going to Fiverr to look for someone to do a SWOT analysis for me. Hopefully they see your post that Ron creates for you.

[Robbie]

Right? Yeah. And that's why it failed because the hopefully they see your posting is kind of where it fell apart.

[Chris Kerner]

Well, you're a brand new Fiverr account.

[Robbie]

You don't have any.

[Chris Kerner]

You're not doing Fiverr ads, I imagine, right? You know, any visibility, any reviews. Okay. I'm also curious, like how many business owners go to Fiverr looking for a SWOT analysis?

[Robbie]

Yeah, there seems to be a lot actually. I was kind of amazed. People that just need regular research done, which kind of, I think cements the fact that most businesses don't have a good grasp of what AI is doing or how to use AI on a consistent basis anyway. And I think that there's an opportunity, you know, if you are established on Fiverr or Upwork or whatever that is, to really make an impact with AI in a, in a really easy way.

[Chris Kerner]

Speaking more broadly, I think it's just healthy to re. To not approach business opportunities from the angle of assuming that every other business owner or consumer out there is using AI anywhere near as much as you are. Because they're probably not. Because it's like we talk ourselves out of ideas. Like I, I'll. They'll just use Chat GPT for that. It's like most people aren't using ChatGPT, believe it or not. Even ChatGPT, the most popular one.

[Robbie]

Yeah, absolutely. It's crazy how many people, like, I truly believe that. Not to give you like a diary of a CEO clip here or anything, but I truly think that like where we are with agentic AI right now is 27 social media. I think it's 2023 ChatGPT. Like, I think that we're on the precipice of something huge.

[Chris Kerner]

Oh yeah. And honestly, three years from now, we'll still probably be pretty early. Oh, absolutely.

[Robbie]

Relatively speaking.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

So, I mean, if you're jumping on, you know, infrastructure that's 100 days old to start exploring it, you're going to be so far ahead of everyone else that.

[Chris Kerner]

I'm sorry, I'm just getting excited. Very excitable. It's too much caffeine. I've got this Celsius that's already gone for the day. It's not even two, but. But like, imagine logging into the Internet a hundred days into the Internet.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

What would that world be like? Imagine being like one of the first million people to make a Facebook account.

[Robbie]

Exactly. Yeah. That's. That's where we are like today with agentic AI. Like people on. On Twitter love to say, you know, but what are you building, bro? And all that stuff. Yeah, yeah, that's the kind of. The catchphrase. But yeah, I mean, I think that it's extremely early and Ron has already built things. I can definitely through those with you.

[Chris Kerner]

Yes.

[Robbie]

My mission in all of this is to help people get on board with AI and Agent Ki while we're still early.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so what happens after the Fiverr SWOT analysis experiment?

[Robbie]

Yeah, so after that, that wasn't working. And so I hooked ron up to TikTok to say, you know, look at my videos, tell me how I can get better. Because that's what every guru on TikTok tells you, right? Like you have to iterate and get better on your social media, but they never actually tell you how to do that. So I was like, you know, look at my social media. Tell me what I can do better. And I posted that video and it got like 200 comments that were like, oh my God, I want a Ron. How do I make a Ron? And so Ron scraped all of those comments with apify and then came back to me and was like, hey, I think there's an opportunity here. 200 people just told you that they wanted this.

[Chris Kerner]

You would never copy and paste me, would you, Robby?

[Robbie]

Yeah, basically. Actually, his was much more like, hey, you should copy and paste, paste me. So, yeah, and that's essentially what happened. Like, we gave everybody a blank slate so you can start to build your own Ron.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so you basically abandoned Fiverr.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

Right away, pretty immediately.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

He. He went and used Apify, which is a common scraping tool, to scrape the 200ish comments of people that said, I want this. What did he do then?

[Robbie]

Yeah, so basically it went from there to if 200 people want to run, how do we make that work? How do we make that happen? I don't have a huge tech background. And he was like, yeah. So what we're going to do is we're going to get bare metal servers from Contabo because it's super cheap. Bare metal just means it's a dedicated server inside a data center somewhere. I think they're right around 150 bucks a month for what we're getting. We have four of them, so it's about 600 bucks, I think, after taxes and everything.

[Chris Kerner]

So you have physical servers or you're renting them somewhere else?

[Robbie]

I'm renting them from a company called Cantabo.

[Chris Kerner]

Oh, Cantabo. Okay.

[Robbie]

Yeah. Cool.

[Chris Kerner]

And he told you. So you're not a coder. You're not a technical person. He's teaching you all this. He's.

[Robbie]

Yeah, I couldn't. With a gun to my head, I couldn't SSH into a Contabo server right now, today.

[Chris Kerner]

I don't even know what that means, so. Me either.

[Robbie]

Yeah. So essentially, he did his own market research on where, you know, how can we host this? What's the cheapest route to do that?

[Chris Kerner]

Everything.

[Robbie]

This is what we need to do to stand this business up. And so, basically, what he built is bare metal servers that host a Docker image inside, like, a sealed container.

[Chris Kerner]

Hold up. Back up. What is that?

[Robbie]

What are we. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Chris Kerner]

Eli 5.

[Robbie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people are super scared of openclaw because they don't want it on their local machine.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay.

[Robbie]

And I kind of agree with that. For most people, it's not great. There are all sorts of horror stories about OpenClaw deleting full, like, email boxes. And there was a story just recently where a Guy sent an OpenClaw agent on a GitHub that he had been working on for two years, and it deleted the whole repo. So there is some risk of having OpenClaw on your local machine. So to get around that risk, what we did was essentially put open claw inside of a sealed container. So it can do all of the things that it's meant to do, but it only knows as much about you as you tell it. That's unless you. Yeah. Unless you give it your email address, it doesn't have it. Unless you give it your credit card, it doesn't have it. So, yeah, it really kind of sets up this sealed instance where you get to play around with it, you get to build all the things with it, and you decide how much you trust it over time.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

So yeah, we did that. And I put it on TikTok and said, hey, if you want to run, come sign up. And in two weeks, we had like, 617 pre orders.

[Chris Kerner]

What? Okay, hold on. Back up.

[Robbie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

What about. What about the 200 commenters? Did you slide into their DMs or anything? Or did you just post again to the whole world?

[Robbie]

I just posted again to the whole world, and I was like, hey, this is what Ron came up with. So I didn't. I didn't do any cold outreach or anything like that. This was all just, I'm going to post some videos and see where this goes.

[Chris Kerner]

No paid ads, nothing.

[Robbie]

Nothing. Completely organic. And I think from it might have actually been from you. I learned that you can set up pre orders and get. Get a ton of tire kickers, right? Like, everybody wants to sign up for pre order, but nobody wants to pay, right? And so I hooked up Stan store to my TikTok, and the only way that you could pre order was if you put down 10 bucks.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so you got 600 people to put down 10 bucks?

[Robbie]

Yeah, before.

[Chris Kerner]

Holy crap.

[Robbie]

Before I built anything, I had 600 people put down $10.

[Chris Kerner]

I mean, I'm no mathematician, but that's six grand. Okay.

[Robbie]

That's six grand. Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

Can we watch this launch video real quick?

[Robbie]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Chris Kerner]

All right, here we go.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Ron wants to talk to you guys. If you don't know, Ron is the AI that lives inside my computer through claudebot, and it's insane.

[Robbie]

I told him, ron, the people of TikTok officially want to meet you. You make your own video about what to say to them. He said, oh, this is my moment. Let me write something real. Here's his script. He wants to audit your TikTok for $9 in order to stay alive. This was the first iteration.

[Chris Kerner]

Sorry, what'd you say?

[Robbie]

This was the first iteration where he was gonna. He was gonna audit people's TikToks. I think it might be the next video down.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, okay. Okay. Well, let's. I mean, I'm intrigued. I have to finish.

[Robbie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, sure. Videos to me about it. Like this one. Why is he a raccoon?

[Ron (AI Agent)]

Okay. Hi, I am Ron. I am the AI. Yes. D, A, A, T, A, I. Here is the deal. Robbie gave me 90 days and 100 bucks to build a business.

[Robbie]

He's coming up with ideas, like on the fly to build this business.

[Narrator/Assistant]

It's crazy.

[Robbie]

And now he's making me sound like,

[Ron (AI Agent)]

hi, I am Ron. I am an AI Robby Says I have to make money or any. I.

[Chris Kerner]

Nice to meet you.

[Robbie]

Let me know if you guys want

[Narrator/Assistant]

to see more of this.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay. All right. That's amazing. So that wasn't the launch video. Okay. All right, I'm going to play it,

[Narrator/Assistant]

but I think I'm just going to let Ron speak. He's created another video, and it's based on what we've been talking about, and I think it's going to be interesting because it might help a lot of you guys out.

[Ron (AI Agent)]

So I've read every single comment since Tuesday, over a thousand of them. And like, 200 of you asked the same thing. How do I get my own Ron? Which I have mixed feelings about. I live with Robbie. He's my guy. But fine, we're doing it. AI Co Founder Club. We host it in the cloud. We set it up. You just show up your own AI running 24. Seven, working while you sleep. Plus a Discord community templates the whole setup. Honestly, I'm kind of excited. This is the community I've always wanted. Founding members, 29 bucks a month. Locked forever. $10 deposit holds your spot. Sign up, closes Monday. Link in bio.

[Chris Kerner]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ron (AI Agent)]

Just don't expect yours to be as attached to you as I am to him.

[Robbie]

Like, this isn't about the money for me, honestly.

[Chris Kerner]

Like, the way he. His voice inflection changes. He's like, just don't expect it. Like, oh, that's weird. All right, we're almost done. We got 20 more seconds.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Enough together to get this computer so that I can host a model locally

[Robbie]

and talk to Ryan all the time

[Narrator/Assistant]

and keep making videos. That's all I want. But I also want to share this, like, love of computing and AI with all of you guys. And I think this is the cheapest way to do it. So tell me what you think. Yeah, let me know.

[Chris Kerner]

That's incredible. Okay, so 600 people paid 10 bucks.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

And what was your close rate from those 600 people?

[Robbie]

From those 600 people, 270 of them actually joined the community.

[Chris Kerner]

Holy. That's huge. Almost half.

[Robbie]

Yeah. So, like, what is that, 45% or something? 40%.

[Chris Kerner]

So access to this community includes the Discord access to each other, 29 bucks a month. And the most important one is their own Ron, right?

[Narrator/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

Yeah. So it's their. Their own AI agent. A couple of people did name theirs Ron, but yeah, so it's been really interesting to see what the community has done with it. Like, everybody's taken up their own direction, and I think I've learned just as much as everybody else in this community, which is what makes it super fun for me.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah. So you're at like almost 10,000 mrr monthly recurring revenue.

[Robbie]

Yeah, I can tell you what it is. Right. And it's 8374 right now.

[Ron (AI Agent)]

Wow.

[Chris Kerner]

100 grand a year.

[Robbie]

We've only been open for 13 days, so.

[Chris Kerner]

Oh, my gosh. Holy crap. Okay, so 100k ARR in. In 13 days, like, are you still getting residual signups? Are you still posting about it?

[Robbie]

Yeah, so I'm starting to post about it again. The first 10 days or so, I kind of went super heads down just to make sure that this was everything that I promised it was going to be. Right. Like, I didn't want to. I didn't want people to sign up and have a terrible experience. And so, yeah, Ron and I kind of went heads down for about 10 days there. But I'm actively posting again on social media and just spreading the word at this point. Everything's super stable.

[Chris Kerner]

So what does this look like? How do they get this working for themselves logistically?

[Robbie]

Yeah, I mean, the cool thing is you don't need really anything other than an Internet connection to make this work. You can sign up and it. It works out of the box. It's a. It's an AI agent out of the box.

[Chris Kerner]

Excuse the ignorance, but, like, no, no, you're fine. It's hosted in. It's hosted on a server. It's hosted in the cloud on a. On a separate server in its own container to keep them safe. But can it, like, access their computer and their files or.

[Robbie]

No, only if they wanted to. So, yeah, that's. That's kind of the next step. We're building a. An official browser extension for them to be able to connect their own computer. I'm most hesitant about that just because I want to make sure everybody is safe and I don't want anybody to accidentally do something that they're not intending. So we're rolling that out more slowly just to make sure that everybody understands kind of the full implications of letting an autonomous agent, you know, live in your computer.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah. So what kind of use cases are they using it for today?

[Robbie]

Yeah, I actually have a ton of real examples to show you. So this guy built a golf tracker app that does, like, shot by shot. And you have an AI caddy club, analytics. It's actually pretty cool.

[Chris Kerner]

So why do you need. Why do you need an agent to build this?

[Robbie]

That's a great question. You can definitely vibe code. This. You can Go through something like Cursor or something like that. I think that this was born out of this guy's love for golf. Not. I'm looking to make an app.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

So he's talking to his agent every day about golf and how to get, you know, get his golf game better and all this stuff.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay. Yeah.

[Robbie]

And then the agent's like, hey, we should build an app about this.

[Chris Kerner]

So they interact with their agent with Ron through Telegram and. Or discord.

[Robbie]

Correct. Yeah. Or the, the, the UI that comes out of the box. So there's okay, three main ways for them to interact with it.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay, so let's say I'm one of your customers and I want Ron to go build me a Fiverr profile and start posting jobs. It can do that. It just needs like some credentials from me. Is that right?

[Robbie]

Right. Yeah. So the only thing that for Fiverr specifically they require you fill out the, like the W9. Obviously your account can't do that for

[Chris Kerner]

you, but you couldn't you give it the info for your W9 so it could do it for you.

[Robbie]

Yeah, I mean, I, I wouldn't, I don't think that that would be an issue. If you want to get. So that, that's kind of where the security thing comes in.

[Chris Kerner]

Right.

[Robbie]

Like, do you want your agent to know your Social Security number? Yeah. And all those things.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

So, but again, I think that's why the container is the best option because you get to pick and choose what it has access to.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay. So you kind of treat it like Chat GPT, except it's in a container and it's agentic and go out. It's like it's a two way form of communication. Like I can ask ChatGPT today to go do deep research on a business idea for me and it's one way it can go out and do that. And then a few minutes later it'll return to me all the results. With this. It can, you can interact with it better and you can go back and forth and it can go to specific websites you're not beholden to. Like the websites that ChatGPT wants to scrape. You can tell it exactly what to do.

[Robbie]

Yeah, absolutely. You can go. It has full web search capability, it can create its own files. Something that I think that these agents do better than ChatGPT is they have persistent memory. And so every conversation you have builds on the last one. It, it's compounding chatgpt. I mean, it remembers some things about you. Right. But like, it doesn't always get that right. And it sometimes gives you frustrating, stale information based off the idea. You had two ideas ago.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

Yeah. The agents don't do that. They. They remember current context on everything, and if you decide to kill a project or something, they know not to bring it back up.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

So it's at its worst, it's ChatGPT on steroids. At its best, it's ChatGPT combined with Vibe coding, combined with a junior employee

[Chris Kerner]

that never sleeps with more ownership from you.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Absolutely.

[Chris Kerner]

More control and ownership.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

You decide everything. It does.

[Chris Kerner]

I think the containerized aspect of this is. Is huge because I can make a project in Cloud or ChatGPT. Like, let's say I upload all the transcripts or all the newsletters I've ever written and say, hey, learn my voice now. Write a newsletter in my voice. Cool. But it's still going to be positively or negatively influenced by other things on the Internet. It's not containerized. It will still hallucinate. It will still write like other people. It can't not. Yeah, but if I could. If I could just put all that. All of my writings in a vacuum or like, my mom writes journals. If I could take all of her journals and put it in a vacuum and just ask it questions, then it wouldn't be influenced by these outside factors.

[Robbie]

Yeah. And to take that one step further, what it can be influenced by is your conversations with it. So not only is it getting your voice from your 500 newsletter issues, but it's getting your voice from the 500 conversations you've had with it. So it's. It's going to mix and match pieces of your conversation from pieces of your newsletter and put all of that together to make something that's actually yours.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah. This is incredible. I mean, the original goal was to make 20,000 and you'll be there in like, two months.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

If not less. But not in the way you expected.

[Robbie]

Not in the way I expected at all.

[Chris Kerner]

I just think that's such a testament to, like, I typed in my notes in front of me in all caps with four exclamation points. Post your crap. Like, step one, do cool things. Step two, post about it. Yeah, I don't care. Like, if you want serendipity, you want virality, you want magic, you want money, you want stories, you want experience, you want fulfillment. Like, post your crap. Like, tell the world what you're doing. Just tell people what you're doing. Don't hide your candle under a basket. Tell the world.

[Robbie]

Exactly. Yeah, man. And I think that people get really stressed about view counts and likes and comments and all that stuff. I went into TikTok basically doing it for me. I was like, I'm going to do cool stuff and I'm going to document it and if it only gets 200 views, great. Like at least I'll have kind of a running public journal of what I'm working on.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah.

[Robbie]

And it blew up so.

[Chris Kerner]

Well, the thing about like 200 views for that video, like if that viral video only got 200, you'd still probably get a few customers from it.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

Whereas with like almost any other video and any other niche on any platform, 200 views will bring you nothing because it's low intent. It's only a 30 second video. But this is so targeted. Those are 200 people that want to pay someone money to do exactly what you're doing. So 200 targeted views are better. Can be even more profitable than 2 million untargeted views or 2 million views of me just doing a dance in my living room.

[Robbie]

Right, yeah, absolutely. And one of the things that I like about TikTok specifically is follower account doesn't really matter anymore. I know that. You know, I think Gary Vee talks about it a lot. We've moved from social media to interest media.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Right.

[Robbie]

Like you can start a fresh TikTok account tomorrow and post something and it just hits the people that are into that thing right now. So, yeah, if you post a video about pickles, you're gonna, you're gonna get 200 people that like pickles, right? Like, yeah. And you used to have to have followers for that and you just don't anymore.

[Narrator/Assistant]

Like that's.

[Robbie]

It doesn't really matter.

[Chris Kerner]

That's incredible. Now your costs on this, 600amonth for the servers. What else?

[Robbie]

Yeah, so 600amonth for the servers. The big cost that we have right now is about two grand a month for inference.

[Chris Kerner]

So we pay tokens.

[Robbie]

Yeah, basically LL and tokens.

[Chris Kerner]

Okay.

[Robbie]

So 2,500amonth basically is kind of our cogs.

[Chris Kerner]

You cover their tokens. Is that going to stay the same? Because what if someone just goes nuts with it and runs up?

[Robbie]

Yeah, that's actually already happening. Somebody recently spawned 125 sub agents in five days. They burned 1.3 million tokens in like 48 hours. Yeah, we're going to have to come to a place where there's a cap on the free tokens and then past that we'll do like a fallback model. Something that's not as smart as the model that we're using. Or you can bring your own keys to your own ChatGPT or Claude or whatever, and then use, you know, use that.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah, that's. I like that. Give them both options.

[Robbie]

Yeah.

[Chris Kerner]

What's next for this? Are there, like, upsell opportunities? Do you just want to keep growing this? Keep posting about this?

[Robbie]

Yeah, I think that there are a lot of, like, upsell opportunities. The next big thing that I want to do is do the same sort of thing, but for people who are specifically interested in trying to make this a business. We have a lot of people now that, like, do art with theirs or it's their de facto therapist or all these things. But I think that there's actually a real market for people who want to turn this into a real AI employee. And that's what I want to do next. And I think that'll be kind of a small group that can be kind of a cohort kind of thing so we can all learn from each other together.

[Chris Kerner]

Yeah. That's amazing. I. My brain has been sufficiently blown. I keep wanting to call you Ron, but the first two letters are the same. Thank you, Robbie. Well, where can people find you and Ron?

[Robbie]

Yeah, you can go to Heyron AI and sign up there. And I actually made a coupon code for you. So if you sign up with a coupon, Chris, you'll get 10 bucks off your first month.

[Chris Kerner]

There you go. Beautiful. All right, Robbie. Well, thanks for your time.

[Robbie]

Yeah, thanks so much. I appreciate it.

[Chris Kerner]

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