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Hey, pro life gents. Kristen Hawkins. And welcome to this episode of the Kristen Hawkins Show. Just a warning. Today we're talking all about women and health care. So if you're like my husband, you might want to tune out. I'm not sure. We'll see how, how ready you are for this. All right, first, I'm going to debunk a viral ProPublica article where journalists came out and shock lied about the tragic death of a young pregnant woman in Texas. Spoiler alert. They said killing her baby would have saved her life. And I'm going to set the record straight on this. And you're going to need to know about this because I'm 100% sure it's going to come up on some campuses. Second, I'm going to continue a recent conversation started a couple weeks ago on X about repealing the 19th Amendment. I don't even know why we have to have this conversation, but we do. And we're going to talk about whether or not women should have the right to vote. Hint they should. Third, I want to talk about Florence Welsh and her ectopic pregnancy experience and how the music industry reacted to one of their own losing her only child. It's a heartbreaking case. Finally, a woman gives birth in her car eight minutes after being discharged from the hospital. First, I want to talk about this problem. ProPublica story. ProPublica since Roe has been reversed, has been on the hunt for any tragedy that happens with pregnant women in America because they are, I guess you could say, determined to prove that America needs radical late term abortion, abortion whenever taxpayer fund abortion laws in order to save women's lives. So they dug up a tragic story of a woman, Tierra Walker, who is 37, who died what I would say because of medical neglect in the state of Texas while pregnant Tiara is one of the latest moms whose death, tragic death is now being exploited by these abortion activists who claim to be journalists. I think it's so sad. You can see their view and what they're attempting to do so clearly in this piece that ProPublica put out because it leads them to just outright lying in their reporting. And to be honest with you, these lies are really dangerous because not only are they dangerous for preborn children as they're clearly trying to advance the agenda to legalize abortion, but they spread misinformation about what to do in pregnancy emergencies. And that's really scary for mothers who are facing or may face in their future a pregnancy emergency. So Walker was a mom to a 14 year old son. And she was also 20 weeks pregnant. She died of preeclampsia. This is a dangerous pregnancy complication that requires close monitoring and can call for rapid life saving interventions. Tiara had a host of other medical problems as well. Before the pregnancy, she was also 37. Now, I called her young, which I believe 37 is young. But when you consider maternal age, that's considered a geriatric pregnancy or advantage advance maternal age to make us who are older than 37 feel better. Even healthy moms who are older than 35 when they become pregnant are considered high risk. They're at high risk for gestational diabetes and preeclampsia. She met all of these conditions. In fact, she had tragically lost twin babies to stillbirth due to preeclampsia in an earlier pregnancy. I'm going to read from you from this atrocious pro Republican report so you hear right for them. As Walker's first trimester continued, she kept seizing. Her body convulsed, her eyes rolled back and she was often able to speak for 30 minutes at a time. Some days the episodes came in waves with little relief. For three weeks, she stayed at Methodist hospitals. Doctors were not able to determine what was causing the spasms. Walker couldn't get out of bed in case of a seizure made her fall. This left her vulnerable to blood clots. She soon developed one in her leg that posed a new lethal threat. It could travel to her lungs and kill her instantly. That's direct reporting from Pro Republica. And you do not have to be a medical doctor to recognize that these are not normal pregnancy symptoms, that this pregnancy was clearly not safe for Tierra or the child she was carrying from the very beginning. They're talking about the first trimester. She was in and out of the hospital multiple times when with very serious complications. Seizures, blood clots, uncontrolled blood pressure. According to Pro Republica, during Walker's many hospital and prenatal visits, 21 OB GYNs were among the more than 90 physicians involved in her care. Now, Pro Republica's solution to this very serious problem, and they're lamenting in the article, is that none of these doctors told her or offered to kill her baby. Their quote was, none of them count to her on the option or the health benefits of a termination, according to medical records. And this is where I get so angry when I read these pieces because this is where the misinformation gets really dangerous and puts other pregnant moms who might read it at risk of drawing conclusions that aren't based on actual fact. Texas does have an exception, like every state that has an abortion ban in its pro life laws to save the life of the mother. Meaning Tierra's doctors could have legally carried out an abortion if they felt it was needed to save her life. Now the problem was not that Tierra was not offered an abortion when she was in the hospital. The real problem of this whole story was that she was not in the hospital when the medical emergency which was completely foreseeable happened and that's what killed her. She was at home in bed and her son, her 14 year old son, found her on his birthday. This is horrific. Why was she home? Why was she at home in bed when doctors knew she had severe preeclampsia, when they knew she had diabetes, when they knew she had blood clots and seizures? It's because she was sent home from the hospital in the middle of an extremely high risk pregnancy situation that clearly required full time hospitalization and observation. It's stupid. Simple. This is not a case of a pro life law interfering in proper care for a mom. This was a clear case of medical neglect. I'll read from Pro Republica's piece again about what happened to Tierra the last week of her life. Quote in her second trimester, Walker's seizures continued and her hypertension remained out of control. At an appointment on December 27 at 20 weeks, a doctor noted spiking blood pressure and sent her to the University Hospital's er. There, doctors recorded a diagnosis of preeclampsia. The experts who reviewed Walker's vital signs for Pro Republica said her blood pressure of 174 over 115 was so concerning at the point she needed to be admitted and monitored, most questioned her doctor's choice not to label her condition as severe. The treatment for severe preeclampsia is delivery or at 20 weeks in abortion. Instead, doctors lowered her blood pressure, medication sent her home. She should have been in the hospital when her preeclampsia became so severe and claimed her life and the life of her 20 week old baby. She should have been monitors that could have alerted the hospital staff that something was changing and something was going wrong. Hospital staff who could immediately intervene and potentially saved her life. It may have even been best to offer her the delivery of the child, which by the way is not an abortion. Despite Pro Republica's blatant lie above, there are absolutely I get so sick of saying this. I have to say this every single time on college campus. There are absolutely pregnancy situations that arise where a mother will die if she continues to gestate, the child continues to be pregnant. We as pro lifers, many of us who are women who have been pregnant, do not stick our heads in the sand and pretend that this is not an issue. If this was the case for Tierra Walker, the medical standard would have been to deliver her child. That's simple. Dr. Donna Harrison of the American association of Pro Life OB GYNs actually went on to explain, she wrote after this case, quote, there is a very big difference between pre viable separations. Remember that term pre viable separations and elective abortion. In these situations where a mother and her fetus must be separated in order to save the life of the mother, we would try to optimize the conditions of the separation so that the fetus has the best possibility to live. But there are cases when the baby will not survive the separation due to gestational age. We call these pre viable separations. These separations are done with the intent to save both if possible, but at least to save one life, the mother. Pre viable separations are not the same as elective abortions. The intent of an abortion was made very clear at the Supreme Court hearings over the partial birth abortion ban. The abortionists argue that the product the abortionist is paid to produce is a dead baby. And that is what distinguishes a delivery from an abortion. The intent of a delivery is to produce, if possible, both a live baby and a live mom. The intent of an abortion is to produce a dead baby, end quote. In Tierra's case, the survival of her baby after delivery would have been virtually impossible with today's medical standards. Right. Since she was only 20 weeks in the pregnancy, too early for a critical organ separation to be functional for life outside the womb. Close about 21 and a half weeks, but not there. Nevertheless, there would have been no pro life objection and no legal barrier in Texas to her child being delivered to save her life. But pro Republicans lies suggesting that Tierra died because she was not offered an abortion. Texas law has no exceptions to pro life laws to allow for life saving interventions like preterm delivery, pre viable separation. They lie. Neither one of those things are true. In fact, we should go back to what I said about the exception Texas law allowing for abortion in case of a medical emergency. Not only did Texas not ban abortion in cases to save a mother's physical life when it's in danger in the 2021 Heartbeat act, but just this year, 2025, the Texas legislature passed the Life of the mother Act. That's the name of the act to make it explicitly clear that abortion is legal in these emergency situations. So even though Thousands of OB GYNs over the country hold that abortion isn't necessary in these cases, pro life laws still make an exception to defer to the judgment of the attending physician, to leave no ambiguity about the necessity to save human life. Women, especially black women, die of medical neglect in pro life and pro abortion states. And that's something really what this story should have been talking about is why is maternal mortality so high with black women across our country? This is a reoccurring theme that every American pro life or pro choice should care about. And we've got to get to the bottom of this story and what's actually happening, my guess would be probably a not standard of like not stable care. So there's gonna be another story I want to get to at the end of this episode which kind of same feels the same way. Because when I was pregnant, I'll just use myself as an example. I had, I knew who my ob gyn was, right? I had a relationship with my ob gyn. I had my ob gyn cell phone number. So if something went wrong, if I had to go to, I was in constant communication with the same doctor the entire time. If you're not in a relationship with a stable doctor, an ob gyn who's seeing you throughout your care, if you're just going in and out of emergency rooms for care, maybe if you're going to a big practice, maybe if you're going to a clinic setting where there's a bunch of different doctors caring for you, I 100% believe that increases your risk. Especially when you have a high risk pregnancy situation that you know could arise, you have to have stable care for one doctor who's every single week looking at the chart, looking at the numbers, and when you don't have that for any medical condition, this isn't even just about being pregnant. If you have a high risk medical situation going on, you want one doctor who's always looking for the same numbers, looking for the same thing, who can easily notice changes in your body and what's going on. And when you don't have that, which I would wager to guess a lot of black women may not have that. Because if you look at the demographics in our country and you look at income levels and when you look at health insurance, if you're on a low health insurance plan that doesn't cover a lot, if you don't have good enough care and you're not seeing a stable doctor, it's going to increase your likelihood for problems. And that's just Kristen Hawkins, somebody who's been pregnant four times and deals with health insurance companies all the time. That's just my assessment of this. Beyond the medical neglect of these 21 OB GYNs that saw this mother and then tragically saw her die. This episode is brought to you by the Pro lifegen Shop and our brand new hot off the press Planned Parenthood Tears mug. This is a custom Kristin Hawkins designed mug that I specifically requested because I have been waiting for a long, long time for Planned Parenthood to be defunded. So for $10, actually $9.99 you can get your Planned Parenthood Tears mug. So just go to shop.prolifegen.org and get your mug today and you can sip your coffee or energy drink in my case in a brand new mug celebrating the fact that we finally defunded Planned Parenthood because of you and I. All right, so next, Talking about women again. Told you this is the women episode. Sorry men, we need you, but this is one episode. A couple weeks ago I started talking on X about a new trend of certain fundamentalist Christian men who started to make the case on X to repeal the 19th Amendment. This argument has been gaining visibility on social media with sometimes I would probably label them the usual suspects making wildly misogynistic cases for why they think women are unfit to vote. Now their conclusions are wrong 100%, but they are making one observation that the conservative movement and conservative politicians do need to acknowledge huge swaths of the female base vote Democrat and pro abortion. It's 100% a problem. The facts are there, right? ABC conducted exit polling after this past November's elections in New York City where Mondami the socialist one in New Jersey where the pro abortion person born governor in Virginia where the pro abortion governor race gubernatorial race one to the pro abortion woman in California that passed a proposition to allow Democrats to basically gerrymander the hell out of the state to help get more Democrat seats and take away Republican seats in the House of Representatives. There is no denying it. Women helped carry these pro abortion Democrats and socialists to victory on November 4. But there are some specifics that exit polling found when it came to sex and I'm going to share those with you. 90% of black women, 61% of Latina women voted Democrat. Unmarried women vote Democrat by a margin of 60 to 39. Women with children tend to vote Republican. Women without children leaned Democrat. The majority of young women under 45 voted democrat or the majority of women 45 plus voted republican. So when you look at who is carrying out, it's crazy to me because when you look at who's carrying out the protections that the second wave and the first wave feminists fought for, it's really hard to see that through line, that connecting line to the current Democratic Party. I mean, like, what are Democrats actually doing to protect women, to reinforce our rights, to make our lives better? I mean, it's conservative policies that are protecting women from men and males, you know, from men, protecting our sports, protecting our bathrooms. I mean, that's like common sense stuff. It's conservatives pushing pro family policies like the Moms act to increase support for women during pregnancy and after birth to deliver better health care and tangible resources and protections from workplace discrimination. It's conservatives who've been working to expose the harms of chemical abortion pills to women and protect women and girls from predator sex predators who now can order chemical abortion pills online to force or coerce their partners into taking them. It's conservatives, even at the FDA, through the Maha kind of moms, forging a path towards care for menopausal and perimenopausal women with new guidance of HRT hormone replacement therapy. Like, that's all been conservatives and like Republicans, despite this clear work that Republicans and conservatives are doing, Republicans tend to kind of suck at telling our story. And they're not giving young women, minority women, unmarried or childless women arguments that win that put, you know, votes for Republicans over votes for Democrats. It's maddening. As a woman who sits there and watches it, it's completely frustrating. We in the pro life and conservative movement are working hard to protect and support women. That's what we do, right? But the importance of messaging these efforts I don't think really gets picked up now. Republicans will probably pick it up in 2020 because it's going to be a key thing. The women vote because President Trump hasn't been known to be beloved by all women in America. And so that's going to be a key point of how Republicans try to win women voters in 2028. The problem is it's going to be too late. Too late. By that point. They have, we have to start now. We as Republicans have to start now. The Democrats, on the other hand, understand the importance of messaging to women and have no problem selling abortion year after year as this end all solution to every problem women ever have faced in eternity and will ever. It's the only thing that they have in their bag of tricks, but they go, all in all, down for it, right? They convince women that Democrats are going to protect abortion because they care and love women so much. And it works every time. It works. And because Democrats are often the only ones directly talking to women, give women, give them the votes, only to be repaid with policies that actually have made their lives worse. And to add insult to injury, we now have a whole club of, like, these Christian fundamentalist men trying to convince conservatives that the solution isn't, I don't know, call me crazy, talking to women, messaging better to women. No, no, the solution is we should just take away women's rights to vote. These guys have basically made the case because women have toxic empathy. The only way to stop them from voting for guys like Madame because we're too stupid to understand how their socialist policies ruin America. We only think with our empathy and our feelings and not facts is to take away the right to vote. For instance, one Christian nationalist apologist, he's a pastor named Dale Partridge. I think he's also an abortion abolitionists, pro prosecutionists, they're all the same guys. By the way, said, quote, nearly every legalized moral atrocity of the last hundred years was made possible by the female vote. Abortion, homosexuality, would likely still be illegal if not for the female vote. Mass immigration, the welfare state rose on the backs of the female vote. Nearly every modern Democrat, including Obama and Biden, were elected because of the female vote. Now, first of all, this line of thinking is flawed, because if you really want to do that, Dale, let's talk about repealing the second Amendment. I'm sure he's not too much in fear of that, because if you look at homicides with guns, it's overwhelmingly men who use guns to kill people. So by that, by this logic, men should lose the right to have guns. Maybe only women should have guns. See, it doesn't work. My good friend Trent Horn pointed out that what Partridge has attributed strictly to women's votes is actually supported in greater numbers by young people, regardless of sex and by African Americans. So Trent went on X and asked Partridge, well, what should young people and black people lose their rights to vote in order to achieve his goal of making sure these moral atrocities don't get voted for. Partridge said he didn't think that men of any race should lose their right to vote and said that when it came to age, voting eligibility should be based on other factors like land ownership and ideally, religious affiliation. So it's not really the most consistent logic. But back to the 19th Amendment. The 19th Amendment reads, quote, the right of citizens in the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on the account of sex. So the repeal the 19th, if you've seen it trend, means they want to take away. They want to have states to have the right to legally bar women from voting. I can't believe we have to talk about this. The good news is this would be virtually impossible to do because to pass a new. To repeal this, you have to pass a new amendment. And so you would actually have to get 37 state legislatures to approve this. That's like, what, 180 million Americans. Yeah. Who would have to like, vote for legislators to vote for this. Yeah. There's no one outside of a few bloviating social media wannabe social media influencers and actually wants this. And like I said, the political threshold to making it possible does not exist. The bad news about this, and the reason I'm even giving this, I guess, airtime is that this narrative in support of repealing the 19th amendment is going to drive women further into the arms of the Democrats who can now make political hay out promising to protect the right to vote. I mean, this is what they say all the time, right? They always tell women the handmaid's tales, like, Republicans are lying to you women. They want you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. They don't want you to have any rights. They hate you women. And then you have people on, you know, who say they're on the right. I don't know if they're getting paid by the left or not. I mean, now that we have this whole X thing where we can figure out where people's accounts are based, maybe these are a bunch of foreign trolls some of the abolitionists who've been attacking have been looking at. Their, like, accounts are based in India. So you tell me. I'm not a conspiracy theorist on most days I am no Candace Owens, but part of me thinks that some of these guys might be getting paid by the left or certainly maybe getting some black, you know, dark money here to. To get their crazy ideology out there to make these insane cases because all they do is help Democrats. Democrats don't say anything. They just have to promote these crazy people. Bottom line, yes, we need to regroup as conservatives and Republicans on our messaging to women because we suck at. And good news, we're already doing the hard thing. We're already doing the work, the pro woman, pro family advocacy work and policy work. We just have to teach our elected officials and the Media heads how to talk about it. And also, to be honest with you, we got to call out these like crazy people who obviously, maybe they're getting paid by the left or maybe they just want to make the most controversial statements because they want to have a big, the biggest social media following because then they can quit whatever job they have, I don't know, mowing lawns or whatever, and do this for a living. I mean, that's the, that's the challenge with the social media influencer kind of culture right now is you have people who will say the most outlandish things to get video views, to get clicks and people like, how dare this person say this? Why this person says, and then it works and then they can quit their jobs, whatever their actual, actual jobs are to like, add to the economy and then they get paid to say more outlandish things. Now none of these people actually have to look at political reality or actually how we make, you know, get enough votes to make policy to, to play the long game of huge cultural change. They can just yap all day on social media, make crazy claims and then be like, oh, I don't care about politics, I'm above politics, while at the same time they're hurting our politics. And that's the thing is, it's like when we're talking about abortion, we're not talking about like, just like our pocketbook, right? Like, oh, you helped more Democrats get elected. That's going to take more money out of my paycheck. Yes, I can be pissed off with you about that, but we're talking about electing more Democrats who want to kill more babies. And in 2026, it doesn't look good for Republicans. If Democrats win control of Washington D.C. they will bog Washington D.C. down like they did last time with investigations, impeachments, blah, blah, will get nothing passed. Planned Parenthood defunding will not be renewed. They'll actually try to pass the, you know, their mega bill if I'm blanking on the name right now. But basically it's a bill that would say abortions are legal in every state all nine months. Anyone can commit them and taxpayer fund. That's what they want. So we're not talking about like, oh, these little social media influencers who like to say crazy things are going to help with like, Democrats are going to take more money out of our paycheck. Yeah, they will. We're talking about these people who are going to help Democrats get elected and kill more babies. So yeah, I get a little mad about that. But I mean, if you ask Dale Partridge, I'm just being an emotional woman because, like, what do I know? All right, topic three for today's show. Let's talk about Florence. Well, if you don't know Florence well, she is Florence in the Machine. You've heard her song like Dog Days are Over, you've Got the Love. I'm actually a huge fan of Florence and her music. She's brilliant. Her recent album came out was like a Halloween album. It was called Everybody Scream. And she has talked openly about how this. I'm surprised more people haven't talked about this in the pro life movement. I guess I'm the only one who listens to secular music, I guess. But she's talked about how she was inspired. This album was inspired by experience of almost dying and losing her only child in ectopic pregnancy. Now, Florence got pregnant at 37, so a geriatric pregnancy, she had to spend some time, she said, discerning whether or not she wanted to become a mother or focus solely on being a musician. Ultimately, she and her off again on again boyfriend, I guess, who she would have some great words for him in her album, decided to try for baby. She said she got pregnant at the first try. But early in pregnancy, she began bleeding. She thought it was a normal miscarriage, what she was expecting, experiencing. But out of abundance of caution, because she has probably good health insurance, her doctor told her to go to the hospital, get an ultrasound to prolactopic pregnancy. Sadly, the scan showed that Florence's fallopian tube had ruptured and her abdomen was full of blood. So ectopic pregnancies, we talked about this before, is when the baby implants outside of the uterus, most often in the fallopian tube, because that's where most conceptions happen. When the egg travels down from the ovary, sperm meets the egg, and then the new human travels down to the uterus and implants in the uterine lining and then that uterus grows and expands to accommodate the baby. Fallopian tube can't grow and expand like that. That's what the uterus is for. So when this happens, the fallopian tube can rupture, causing the baby to die. And you experience as a mother, massive internal bleeding. And that's why it's life threatening for a mother. Florence needed emergency surgery. She had to have the flopian tube removed. And experience of losing her child and coming close to death has very clearly changed her life. If you listen to any of her her latest songs in an interview with The Guardian. When she was talking about this new album, Florence spoke very bluntly about the emotional toll that this took on her. She said, quote, quote, the closest I came to making life was the closest I came to death. And then she wanted to talk about how angry she was at the music industry, who expected her to move on that like nothing happened. She said, quote, after the trauma, ectopic pregnancy and emergency surgery. Oh, sorry, this is the author of the piece. She thought that she wanted to put it all away. Florence said, but working in helped me. It was like little lanterns in the fog. I could just pick my way through and I was so angry. There was a fury at how unsupported I felt by my industry, how clear it was and how it wasn't built for me, end quote. She further wanted to say, quote, I felt like I'd stepped through this door and it's just full of women who are screaming. Any mother who's gone through stillbirth or miscarriage can certainly feel like they can join this club with Florence and feeling like screaming. It's a grief that many live with every single day for the rest of their lives. And Florence, not only is she grieving the loss of her child, she's angry with the industry that was designed to squeeze as much profit as it could out of its stars. Records and labels do not care if you're a man or woman. They care how viral your song can be, how big of a stadium or theater you can pack out your tour stops to maximize ticket sales, and how many albums you can crank up to keep the profit wheel turning. We all know the music industry is fueled by sex, drugs, rock and roll. There's no time for babies or families or motherhood. So women, when they get involved in using industry abortion is usually the fallback plan to keep the two worlds separate. In fact, one of the a pro life musician now who was in, I think the Pussycat Dolls, I don't know, some like pop culture. She's talked openly about how she felt like she had to have an abortion when she was in this pop culture band. Florence is no exception. This is a woman who's a longtime abortion activist. She's condemned pro life laws the United States. She supported pro abortion measures like repealing Ireland's eighth Amendment. She wants to work in an industry that supports killing children, but she also wants to work in an industry that supports mothers who've lost children. But life doesn't work like that. It can't. Because this is a contradiction, right? Either these children are meaningless clumps of cells to be discarded of or they have value and meaning. And she's in a contradiction right now. My heart goes out to Florence and I hope that she finds the healing she is so desperately seeking. She spoke a lot in these interviews and in her album. It's very clear she has turned to witchcraft and new age spirituality to search for healing. She should 100% be angry that her industry doesn't care about her well being or her her grief. She should be angry about industry that expects its biggest stars to kill their children even though they're multi millionaires, rather than missing the opportunity to record one new record or go on one new tour. She should be angry now, being used for how much money she can turn out while her fertile years are rapidly slipping away. But she doesn't need to turn to witches or grief rituals. She needs God. She needs to find a space where she can live in continuity between her own grief of losing her own child and being a performer. Until that happens, I think if she continues to make music, you'll continue to see in the lyrics of her songs that she will continue to live in a chaos of wanting her own motherhood and loss to be valued while also serving in an industry and an ideology, really, that supports women killing their children. But you should listen to the album. It's a really good album. There's a couple of really good songs on there. I'm sure Dale Partridge wouldn't like them. That's a little too feministy for him. She has one line I love. It's like, must be nice to. Must be nice to be a man. You can make boring music when it. Whenever you can. Or something like that. All right, last section of the women episode today. I want to talk about something that I saw on social media the other weekend. And it was disturbing. So once again, in case anyone who's pro choice has stayed tuned to this entire episode, pregnant moms matter and their lives matter. The good news is about this stories. Unlike the first story, Tierra Walker, this one does end up in a happy ending. Mercedes Wells was an active labor in the Indiana hospital and she and her husband went so Mercedes could, you know, give birth. The hospital discharged her. Medical staff at Franciscan Health Crown Point failed to recognize or even care about the obvious fact that Mercedes needed care. And they actually sent her home. Despite the fact that she was in active labor and in a ton of pain. They made it to their car and began driving to another hospital to get care. But just minutes into the drive, the baby's head started crowning. She Gave birth her daughter eight minutes after the couple left Franciscan Health. Eight minutes. That would have meant she had probably been almost fully dilated at that point. Her husband had to pull over on the highway to catch her baby. It's one thing that she was in active labor. The other thing is she was clearly in significant pain when they filmed her being turned away from the hospital. I mean, if you've ever given birth naturally, you would know it really hurts, like, a lot, especially the closer and closer you get to the baby crowning. Most women would say it's the worst pain they've ever felt in their lives. Ultimately, you get pain management in our country, like an epidural, or you're just a champ. And so everyone will be telling me how awesome they are. I'm a big wuss. I got an epidural. But labor can be excruciating. It's basic human decency and medical ethics to take care of a mother who's obviously an excruciating labor pain. But it's also, like, just required by the law. You can't turn her away. Despite that, this hospital sent her away to be someone else's problem. Thankfully, baby Elena was born healthy and is doing well. I don't know what their insurance is. Once again, I'm as Kristen Hawkins. I'm wagering to believe maybe she didn't have a good, stable relationship with OB gyn. Because normally, if you're in labor and you have an OB gyn, you got the cell phone, the OB gyn, You call the OB gyn, they call the hospital. The hospital is waiting for you with a wheelchair. You're ready to go. Normally, when a woman presents an ER and, you know, hasn't called her ob, it's because she doesn't have that type of relationship with the ob. But, like, here's a crazy idea. The hospital, like any hospital that takes a woman, even if she's not like your normal client, you need to treat her life worthy of love, care, and protection and not send her away. This isn't the only story I've seen like this Mercedes story. It's absolutely shocking, and it speaks to this broader conversation that both political left and political right, pro life and pro choice, should be having. But we don't. Here's. Here's the deal. We don't have hard conversations about prenatal care and maternal mortality in our country because of abortion. 100%. Like, hands down, like, if we did, if abortion wasn't like, this divisive issue that people were fighting for and fighting over all the time. We could actually solve some of these acts, actual problems that both sides should agree are actual problems. But we don't, we don't have these hard conversations. And we can't have the hard conversations because the two sides can't ever come together. So I'm not a centrist by any stretch of the imagination, but, like, maybe we need to have some conversations about this and maybe our leaders need to, like, I don't know, do what they're elected to do and have these conversations.
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