The Kristan Hawkins Show – Episode 38 Summary

Alarming Abortion Pill Data from England + Big Win for Abortion Pill Reversal in Colorado

Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Kristan Hawkins (President, Pro-Life Generation)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Kristan Hawkins addresses three central pro-life issues:

• The release of new, troubling abortion pill complication data from England.
• A significant legal victory for abortion pill reversal advocates in Colorado.
• A detailed exploration of current Congressional budgetary battles, focusing on taxpayer funding of abortion through Obamacare and ongoing efforts to protect federal subsidies from being used for abortion services.

Throughout, Hawkins takes a blunt, conversational tone—relating national policy conversation to pro-life advocacy and sharing her perspective on how pro-life supporters can impact ongoing and future legislative battles.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Shocking Chemical Abortion Pill Data from England

[04:15]

• Hawkins emphasizes that most abortions now occur via chemical abortion pills, which she states are not only "deadly to babies" but also extremely dangerous for women.
• U.S. Data: The Ethics and Public Policy Center (EPPC) reported that, in the United States, "1 in 9 women who ingest chemical abortion pills end up in the hospital with serious complications," a rate 22 times higher than what the FDA previously claimed.
  • Quote: “One in nine women who ingest chemical abortion pills end up in the hospital with serious complications. And this was shocking because this was 22 times more likely to happen to you than the FDA even told us.” [05:22]
• UK Data: New UK statistics suggest "at least 1,000 women per month end up hospitalized" from complications related to abortion pills, with claims that the UK government severely underreported these complications.
  • Quote: “According to one source, the UK government recently underreported abortion complications by a factor of 38 times, comparing the report to the official NIH hospital data.” [06:00]
• Hawkins points out that full comparative data is challenging to obtain due to incomplete abortion statistics being released by UK authorities, but stresses the magnitude of the problem.

Contextual Commentary:

• She criticizes socialized medicine in the UK for failing women.
• Draws frequent parallels to similar issues in the US, urging vigilance and skepticism regarding official abortion safety claims.

2. FDA Review and Deep Distrust in Official Data Sources

[08:11]

• Kristan notes the FDA, under the new Trump administration, plans to review abortion pill data and safety. She remains highly skeptical.
  • Quote: “The FDA isn’t something I really trust at the moment because they've turned a blind eye for the past 25 years to the very serious side [effects of] chemical abortion pills.” [09:15]
• Warns listeners to question:
  • Who is conducting the FDA review—career vs. political appointees (“deep state” concerns).
  • Whether the Trump administration’s review will actually conduct independent research or simply “rubber stamp” prior studies conducted by pro-choice organizations or under the Biden administration.
  • Potential conflicts of interest in research provided by groups like the Population Council, Gynuity Health Projects, and the Bixby Center—all identified as being financially and ideologically tied to the abortion movement.
    • Example: “The Population Council was literally established to bring chemical abortion pills on the market.” [10:32]
• Flags environmental issues—specifically, abortion pill waste and potential water pollution—which she claims have not been adequately assessed by regulators.
  • Points out the lack of Clean Water Act review and expresses hope that the new FDA review will address this long-overlooked angle.
• References the 19th-century Comstock Act, claiming its prohibition on mailing abortion drugs is being violated repeatedly—and urges listeners to scrutinize whether the Department of Justice will address this.

3. Legal Victory: Abortion Pill Reversal in Colorado

[16:25]

• Reports a “permanent injunction” was issued against a Colorado law that prohibited faith-based health centers from offering the abortion pill reversal protocol to women.
  • Quote: “A judge in Colorado has recently issued a permanent injunction against a bullshit Colorado law which prohibited Faith Based Health centers from offering the abortion pill reversal protocol to women who regretted taking the first chemical abortion pill.” [16:40]
• Explanation of Abortion Pill Reversal:
  • The standard chemical abortion protocol involves two pills: mifepristone (blocks progesterone) and misoprostol (induces labor).
  • The reversal process: If a woman regrets after the first pill, she can call a hotline (877-558-0333) and receive high-dose progesterone; this may counteract the effects of mifepristone and possibly save the pregnancy.
  • Highlights that the same progesterone protocol is commonly used for women with low progesterone to prevent miscarriages, thus arguing the medical legitimacy of the reversal method.
    • Quote: “The abortion pill reversal protocol is used by OBGYNs, even pro choice OBGYN all the time for women who continue to suffer miscarriages because their progesterone levels are so low.” [18:58]
• Legal Battle Details:
  • Bella Health and Wellness, a Colorado women’s clinic, led the lawsuit, arguing banning the reversal impeded their religious beliefs and their clients' right to choose life.
  • The 2023 law banning reversal was first temporarily blocked; the new ruling makes that block permanent. Hawkins notes the state appears “too nervous to appeal,” indicating a decisive pro-life win.
  • Quote: “It speaks volumes that truth, common sense and life have prevailed.” [22:09]
• Broader Implications:
  • Argues the abortion industry aggressively opposes the reversal process because it “reminds women that they're actually killing a baby” and provides public proof of life-affirming outcomes after starting an abortion.
    • Quote: “They hate any reminder that a baby can come from a pregnancy.” [22:48]
  • Critiques Google for “blocking the ads of the abortion pill reversal process for years,” alleging tech bias against pro-life solutions.
  • Deconstructs the pro-choice argument by asserting, “If you say you’re pro choice, if a woman changes her mind in the middle of a chemical abortion... why do you care?” [23:27]

4. Deep Dive: Congressional Budget Battles, Obamacare, & Abortion Funding

[25:08]

• Obamacare Refresher:
  • Criticizes the program as introducing higher insurance premiums and poorer care, sharing personal anecdotes about rising rates.
  • Quote: “Since Obamacare went to effect in 2010, my insurance rates... have gone up every single year by at least 20%. This year they went up by 91%.” [26:28]
• Taxpayer Funding of Abortion:
  • Claims Obama administration “lied” and that Obamacare plans are used as abortion slush funds—every insurance dollar allegedly contributes to abortion coverage plans.
    • Quote: “They created abortion slush fund. Basically every dollar, $1 that everybody puts into health care plans now goes into this abortion fund. We were all lied to.” [28:12]
• Budget Mechanisms Explained:
  • Explains “reconciliation” (long-term budget negotiations) and “continuing resolution” (CR; temporary budgets and shutdown avoidance).
    • Quote: “The CR is something that's being discussed right now. It's called continuing resolution and it's a temporary budget... because this is how our federal government has operated since 1996.” [29:41]
  • States that the Hyde Amendment is the only mechanism to ensure federal dollars from these programs are not used for abortion, highlighting ongoing fights to make sure it applies to every new funding bill or extension.
    • Quote: “All Congress has to do... is to say we’re going to apply the Hyde Amendment to our continuing resolution... to ensure that any money we give to Obamacare… isn’t going to go towards abortion.” [33:00]
• Defunding Planned Parenthood (Debarment):
  • Applauds efforts to cut 80% of Planned Parenthood’s Medicaid funds in the recent "BBB" budget bill, but argues that funding through Obamacare remains and could only be fully stopped by a “debarment”—making Planned Parenthood ineligible for all federal funding for three years.
    • Quote: “Debarment is the only way... to totally tell Planned Parenthood to go fund themselves themselves.” [36:44]
• Calls listeners to stay vigilant and push for reforms, reiterating:
  • “If your health care kills people, you are doing health care wrong and we shouldn’t be funding it.” [38:24]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On UK data:
  “12,000 complications for chemical abortion pills in a very small country is alarming.” [06:35]

• On FDA trust issues:
  “The FDA has been infamous for having very, very, very, very liberal career employees.” [09:30]

• On American healthcare:
  “Since Obamacare went into effect... I can tell you 100%, my insurance rates and our insurance rates at Students for Life have gone up every single year by at least 20%. This year they went by 91%.” [26:25]

• On ideological opposition:
  “The abortion industry serves Moloch, right? A demon who demands human sacrifice. But I think they do. They want dead babies.” [24:10]

• Call to action on funding:
  “If your health care kills people, you are doing health care wrong and we shouldn’t be funding it. Nor should we be voting or allowing our elected officials to do the same.” [38:24]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:15] – Start of abortion pill data discussion
• [08:11] – FDA review skepticism and conflicts-of-interest in data
• [16:25] – Colorado abortion pill reversal legal victory
• [18:58] – Medical explanation of reversal protocol and its everyday uses
• [23:27] – Critique of abortion industry’s motives, ideological discussion
• [25:08] – Obamacare, budget, and abortion funding explained
• [33:00] – Hyde Amendment and application to federal funding
• [36:44] – Planned Parenthood debarment and funding loopholes
• [38:24] – Final rallying call to pro-life legislative vigilance

Summary Takeaway

This episode of The Kristan Hawkins Show outlines recent advancements and ongoing challenges for the pro-life movement. It features urgent warnings about the safety of chemical abortion pills—underscored by both US and UK data—while celebrating a court victory in Colorado securing women’s access to abortion pill reversal options. Hawkins closes with an in-depth examination of federal budget fights tied to abortion funding, calling on listeners to stay active and informed, and advocating for robust legislative solutions like the Hyde Amendment and debarment for major abortion providers.

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