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Hey, Pro Life Jen. And welcome back to this episode of the Kristin Hawkins Show. Today we're going to be talking about new abortion pill data out of England. Spoiler alert. Like most things out of England, it's not good. Second, we're going to talk about something that is good, which is an abortion pill reversal win in Colorado, which we don't see very many pro life wins usually. And then I'm going to get a little wonky and talk about the next step step in our battle to stop forced taxpayer funding of abortion in Congress's new budget bill. Hey, Pro Life Jen, are you ready to boldly stand for life in 2026? It's all on the line and now courage is needed more than ever before. I want to see you at the 2026 National Pro Life Summit on Saturday, January 24th at the Grand Hyatt in Washington, D.C. that's just the day after National Pro Life March. Right now you can lock in an early bird discount, $20 off a ticket when you use the code EB20 at checkout. But don't wait because the special is going to end on Halloween. So it's EB20 at checkout. You'll save $20 off your student ticket to 2026 National Pro Life Summit. We're going to be announcing more speakers in the coming months, but we're already thrilled to say that Brett Cooper of the Brett Cooper Show, Nick Friedis, Shane Winnings will be joining us amongst other leaders. This is the top pro life training event of the year in the entire world. So make sure you reserve your spot@prolifesummit.com be a part of the Pro Life Generation in 2026 and join us for what will be a sold out 2026 National Pro Life Summit. Now we talk a lot on this show about chemical abortion pills. I mean, in fact, I joke sometimes. I think we should rename the name of the show to the Chemical Abortion Pill Show. But I this is important because this is where the majority of abortions are happening. But what you need to know is chemical abortion pills not only kill babies, they also do horrible, horrible things to mothers, to women. From the emotional turmoil of seeing a fully formed baby in their toilet bowl to the physical toll of hemorrhage, septic infection, shock, possible long term infertility. These drugs are not safe for women, period. And they're deadly to babies. And we've seen plenty of data to support this in the United States. Most recently this May, the Ethics and Public Policy center, the EPPC release a massive review of insurance data that revealed that one in nine women who ingest chemical abortion pills end up in the hospital with serious complications. And this was shocking because this was 22 times more likely to happen to you than the FDA even told us. And now it appears that women in the UK are no exception. Recent data out of the UK is revealing that at least 1,000 women per month end up hospitalized from serious complications related to chemical abortion pills. And those are just the stories that are being accurately reported. According to One source, the UK government recently under reported abortion complications by a factor of 38 times, comparing the report to the official NIH hospital data. Remember, the UK has socialized medicine. It's why it's sucky. And the NIH like reports their national IT reports all of their health care data. We don't know how many total abortions took place in the UK during the years when more than 12,000 abortion pill complications were reported because that actual total number of abortions has not been released. But 12,000 complications for chemical abortion pills in a very small country is alarming. So we can't figure out the total percentage of women who took abortion drugs and experienced a serious complication. But I'll be telling you what, I'm going to be looking out for this on the news because we need to compare it to the EPPC's US findings from this May. Meanwhile, on our side of the pond, in the past week the FDA has confirmed that it is in fact reviewing abortion drug data. After decades of pro abortion administrations gradually loosening every last safeguard, the Trump administration FDA will conduct its own review of the evidence, including real world outcomes, dead babies and evidence relating to the safety and efficacy of the drug. This September 19th letter stated. This letter from September 19th was actually response to a letter that 22 state attorneys general had sent the Trump administration. Now we're excited that this drug is finally going to be reviewed, but I do want to give you a warning. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered before we take this review seriously. The first question is who will be conducting the review? The fda, National Institutes of Health, NIH have been infamous for having long standing career appointees in those positions, not political appointees. When you go work for the government, you can either be a career appointee or, or a political appointee. A political appointee is somebody who gets appointed by the administration and actually has to resign every four years when there's new administration. A career is somebody who is literally a bureaucrat. They're there for life, right? And getting all the good benefits that we pay them as taxpayers. The FDA has been infamous for having very, very, very, very liberal career employees. And the FDA isn't something I really trust at the moment because they've turned a blind eye for the past 25 years to the very serious side, chemical abortion pills. So the question is, what personnel will be doing the review and what sort of deep state agenda does that personnel have? We also have to ask ourselves, and we need to ask, when this review comes out, was this HHS and FDA and the Trump 2 administration doing the research or are they going to rubber stamp research that was done during the Biden administration? Because we all know we can't trust Auto Pen Joe Biden's administration. We also have to ask ourselves, if they rely on outside data, like data, not research, not conducted internally by staff at the fda. If they're relying on outside data, what was the conflict of interest of that research? Because what we've seen time and time again is the mainstream media always ignores the conflict of interest when it comes to abortion related data. For example, the Population Council did their own environmental assessment of chemical abortion pills in 1996 and gave it to the FDA. The FDA said, oh, the Population Council did their own environmental assessment of chemical abortion pills. By the way, the Population Council was literally established to bring chemical abortion pills on the market. And they just said the environmental review was the concern for women throwing away the packaging. There was no other environmental review done. The FDA said, look, the Population Council did the environmental review done rubber stamp good. But yet the entire time they were tied to the abortion lobby. Genuity Health Projects is totally tied to the abortion industry's dollars yet. And they've actually listed on their website like Planned Parenthood, International, Planned Parenthood, Federation of America, Population Council, Society of Family Planning are all non foundation donors to Genuity Health. Yet they do all this research telling us that abortion safe. The Bixby center, this operates out of the Advancing New Standards and Reproductive health agency and Dr. Daniel Grossman are frequently quoted in newspapers about their research on abortion. It's all abortion dollars. The Bixby center was literally set up to to help get more abortionists trained in medical schools. So we need to ask ourselves, who's doing the review if it's not being done by the US Government and if it's done by the US Government, we have to ask ourselves, who was doing the review? I think the other question we have to ask yourself when this review comes up, was the FDA or whoever's doing this review actually do the first ever federal evaluation of Abortion water pollution? Because as we said, the FDA in 2000 rubber stamped the population Council's environmental assessment, which was just like, yeah, women could throw away the packaging of the pills. That's it. Even though we knew they were supposed to literally check the box to make sure there would be no impact or violation of the Clean Water act. And they literally left that box unchecked. In the year 2000, will the FDA and the EPA demand, the environmental Protection Agency demand that there's ongoing testing of our nation's water supply for this abortion water pollution to make sure there's no crystal clear water, as President Trump calls it, tainting, going on in this review? Are they going to talk about the Department of Justice and have the Department of Justice review the fact that the Biden administration and now the abortion lobby has been operating under the assumption that the 1918 90s Comstock act, which makes it illegal to ship abortion related materials in the mail, has been literally violated over and over again hundreds of thousands of times since the fall of Roe, since the Biden FTA stripped all the REMs off of chemical abortion pills, are they even going to address it? So we have a lot of questions. So when this review comes out, I will be one of the first people to comment. And I want you to pay attention to what I'm saying because there's a lot of questions we're going to have and it might take me a little bit to comment because I'm going to want to figure out who conducted the review, what data they're using, do they actually do any of the environmental testing that they were supposed to do in 20 in 2000, or are they just rubber stamping things again just so we shut up in the pro life movement? All right, the good news on chemical abortion pill front that I actually have to share with you today. A judge in Colorado has recently issued a permanent injunction against a bullshit Colorado law which prohibited Faith Based Health centers from offering the abortion pill reversal protocol to women who regretted taking the first chemical abortion pill. Before we go any further, I want to explain what the abortion pill reversal process is. So right now, the abortion pill protocol is you take two pills, right? Mifepristone, which blocks the pregnancy hormone, progesterone, which will starve the child, and then you take the second pill, Mipristal, which will induce really hard contractions and make you deliver a dead baby. Now, Dr. Daniel Grossman, who I just mentioned, and others are trying to create a one pill abortion pill cocktail. Why are they doing that? Because they hate abortion pill Reversal that much. They, they hate the fact that some women have been able to make a decision to choose life after taking mifepristone and save the life of their baby. They hate that. There is nothing the abortion industry hates more because when you do that, you remind women that they're actually killing a baby. Now, many women immediately regret after taking, after having a surgical abortion, say that they were. Many women say that they immediately regret having a surgical abortion, but there's nothing that can be done. The abortion industry has gotten their money and they fulfill their ideological agenda, which is to serve Moloch and to kill more babies. The silver lining, if you can call that chemical abortion pill method as it is right now, because it's two drugs, there is a chance that you can save your baby if you've taken the first drug, mipristone, and you call the abortion pill reversal hotline, which I'm going to give you that number. It's 877-558-0333. If she calls the abortion pill reversal hotline, she'll be immediately connected with a nurse or doctor in her area who, who will prescribe her the protocol to reverse the actions of mifepristone. Basically, it's high dose progesterone. And this, by the way, in the court, when this court case was going on, when this bullshit law was introduced in Colorado, it's totally crazy because there's women today who haven't taken the abortion pill, but they need high doses of progesterone because for whatever reason they have a low progesterone count and that's why they continue to have miscarriages. So the abortion pill reversal protocol is used by obgyns, even pro choice obgyn all the time for women who continue to suffer miscarriages because their, their progesterone levels are so low they can't feed the baby, sustain the pregnancy. This is like, this is why the case was completely insane. This, this bill is because Colorado wants to be like the top state in the country for how much they hate babies. So when you call the hotline, they will connect her to a doctor, to a nurse who will prescribe high doses of progesterone and attempt to counteract the, the effects of pristine. If depending on time, depending on how long it's been since she's taken that pill, depending on maybe where she's at and how close she can get to a pharmacy who will carry that progesterone, the baby may or may not be saved. But there's been thousands of babies that have been saved since the abortion pill reversal process was first introduced to the market. These, this protocol literally saves babies lives, but the abortion industry hates it. Once again, they hate any reminder that a baby can come from a pregnancy. So this amazing pregnancy center and health center, they actually a full scale women's health facility in Colorado. I know the founder, she's amazing. It's called Bella Health and Wellness. This pregnancy and women's health center actually brought a federal lawsuit against this law in Colorado. The law was passed in 2023 and it just banned abortion pill outright. They alleged that it constituted a deceptive trade practice. So in 2023, Bella stepped up, their nurses stepped up and courageously sued their state over the ban, saying this impeded their religious beliefs. Right. And those of their clients who changed their mind and don't want to kill their baby. So a judge in October 2023 issued a temporary block on the state, which was great because Bella has been able. They reported they've saved 16 babies since that temporary block went to effect through the abortion pill reversal process. But what just happened is the judge has just made his temporary ban a permanent ban, which means that the bullshit Colorado law that bans chemical abortion pill reversal process can never go into effect. And in fact, the state of Colorado, I think is so afraid because I know how outrageous this law is. The state of Colorado even appears to be too nervous to appeal this now permanent injunction, which is fantastic. And I think it speaks volumes that truth, common sense and life have prevailed. I mean, it doesn't make any sense because if you say you're pro choice, if a woman changes her mind in the middle of a chemical abortion or why do you care? I mean, this is why you have to think about, like I always think about, what are people's motives here, right? The abortion industry has already got their money, which as soon as she buys those pills, soon as she takes that first pill at Prestone, they've already made their money. But why did they hate it so much? Why did they hate the abortion pill reversal? I mean, we seen this case. Google has been blocking the ads of the abortion pill reversal process for years. Like blocking the abortion pill reversal website and hotline. Why do they care? Why do they care so much? I think once again, it's because they don't just serve and chase for profit in dollars. They want to see more babies die. And I know sometimes we joke and we're like, the abortion industry serves Moloch, right? A demon who demands human sacrifice, But I think they do. They want dead babies. Because why would they care if they're pro choice? Why would they? For the choice of a woman to change her mind. No, they can't. Because if she changes her mind and that baby is saved, it sends a signal to every other woman who's thinking about chemical abortion pill, taking the chemical abortion cocktail that the outcome of what she's doing is a dead baby. Because these women took the chemical abortion pill, acted with courage, reversed the process, and now have a beautiful baby. And they can't have any reminders, reminders for their future clients that what she is pregnant with is a human child. That's the long and short of it. Long and short. All right, let me walk out for just a few minutes and I will try not to put you asleep. I will throw in a couple of Christian isms for you. I will attempt to make this snappy. But the final section of the podcast say we need to talk about the Obamacare situation. Now, do you remember Obamacare? Some of you who are in college were like babies, right? So Obamacare was like this great solution. It was going to give health care to all Americans and it was going to be great health care. And if, if you had a great doctor, you could keep your health, your doctor. And it wasn't going to increase your insurance rates. Yeah, I can tell you 100%. Since Obamacare went to effect in 2010, my insurance rates and our insurance rates to students for life have gone up every single year by at least 20%. This year they went by 91%. And yeah, keep your doctor. That was a lie. So President Obama totally lied to us, but this was his solution to bring government socialized health care to America by not fully making it government. It's some people socialized, but other people like me, we have private insurance, but then we have crappier health insurance now because of this. So it's a thing. Obamacare is also, by the way, even though President Obama says it was a tax, literally, how the Obama administration defended it to the Supreme Court was arguing that it was a tax and the government has a right to impose tax. So it's actually a tax, as argued by the Obama administration to the Supreme Court. It's a tax. Right? You get fined if you turn in your taxes and don't prove that you have health insurance. It's a thing. It's still around and I think America is poor for it. But we can talk about that later. But here's the deal. So during the debate in 2009, we were promised from the pro abortion Obama administration That it wasn't going to fund abortions, that there was going to be a solution, and that this government subsidized Obamacare that poor people or people who make under a certain level of income were going to have. It wasn't going to take our taxpayer money and offset abortions. It was crap. They created abortion slush fund. Basically every dollar $1 that everybody puts into health care plans now goes into this abortion fund. We were all lied to. Now there's this whole debate in Congress that's going on right now when it comes to reconciliation and the cr. So let me just for the terminology, reconciliation is a budgetary process that Congress, the House starts, that is used to change the budget way. We actually haven't had an official budget in Congress since 1996. We literally don't operate on a budget. You wonder one wonder why the federal deficit and why the federal debt. Deficit is the year, you know, the annual debt, the debt is like all time. Why keeps going up. Yeah, because we don't freaking budget. I don't have a budget. My house. And so I have credit card debt. Because it's a constant problem. Right. The CR is something that's being discussed right now. It's called continuing resolution, and it's a temporary budget. So that's why there's all this talk about looming shutdowns. Because. Because this is how our federal government has operated since 1996 is passing CR's continuing resolution, which is a temporary budget. And it could be like three months, six months, one year, whatever. In the budget reconciliation process we saw this summer, on July 4th, President Trump signed into the one big beautiful bill, which was a budget reconciliation bill, which defunded planned parenthood of 80% of our taxpayer dollars, of Medicaid dollars. So money we give for poor people to have health insurance banned from going to any abortion vendor, Planned Parenthood included. But now there's a fight in Congress right now on something called the cr. This is now their temporary budget and they want to expand Obamacare and they need funding for Obamacare because Obamacare gives subsidies to Americans to purchase really crappy health insurance plans. So for example, in Idaho, where I live, there are three Obamacare plans for exchange plans. So if you don't get health insurance from your work, you have to buy. You are legally obligated, if you can afford it, to buy an Obamacare exchange plan. There's three plans in Idaho. Only two of them work, actually work where I live. It's crazy and all. Both of them are silver plans. There's like Platinum, silver, gold plans. The exchange plans in Idaho are only three silver plans. So they're high deductible crappy plans, meaning you pay a bunch of money and then you have to pay a bunch of money before it even kicks in. Okay, got it. And you can only see providers in like a small area. You can't go anywhere you want. Even though I live like on the border of Wyoming, I couldn't even go to Wyoming. The plans are shit. I've spent past couple months dealing with this situation. I have two kids with cf. When I abolish abortion, I'm going to fight the insurance industry and fix insurance. Okay? So the Obamacare plans, they need more funding to offset because a lot of people can't even afford what the insurance industry is offering is crappy silver Obamacare plans. So the government gives you a subsidy based on your income level of, of how much they'll give you to like offset the monthly deductible for this crappy health insurance plan that you now have to buy. And you can't even have an option for buying a good plan like a platinum or gold plan because the insurance industry won't do that because they've been losing so much money because of Obamacare anyway. So they need more money. They need more money. And how are they going to do with no budget? It's got to be in the cr. So there's a whole conversation going on Capitol Hill right now that we need more money to go Obamacare. Well, we all know that the 2009 promise that President Obama promised the world that no federal dollars will be used for abortion has been broken time and time again because all the payments for abortion or other health care are being bundled together. And so we all know our hard earned tax dollars have been going to subsidize Obamacare plans that have abortion in them because the government forced abortion into all these health care plans, right? So now in the cr, members of Congress are saying, well, you know, we, not that we don't want people to have access to health insurance, but what are we going to do? Because if we increase funding to Obamacare, it's actually some of that money is going to be taxpayer dollars going to the abortion industry. The only way to stop our taxpayer dollars is from being used in this CR that's going to give more money to offset the Obamacare subsidies, which we know will go to abortion coverage plans because Obamacare demanded abortion coverage is going to be to apply what's called the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment is this tried and true mechanism since 1976, which says you can't use taxpayer dollars to fund abortion except if the abortion is committed because of rape, incest or life of the mother. And we have to fight for this every single year. So all Congress has to do if they want the pro life movement to like, stay out of the CR fight that's brewing right now on Capitol Hill is to say we're going to apply the Hyde Amendment to our continuing resolution, our temporary budget to ensure that any money we give to Obamacare and Obamacare subsidies isn't going to go towards abortion. Now, I don't know how the forensic accounts and all the accountants are going to figure this out because like I said, it's super complicated, these Obamacare subsidies and how they've worded it. So the money goes into this, like abortion pot, this $1 from every person who purchased a plan. I don't know. That ain't my job. All I know is legally the Hyde Amendment should be placed on the CR to stop our taxpayer dollars from funding abortion. Congress must do that. So we've written a letter. Susan B. Anthony, Pro Life America has written a letter. We have to pay attention to this CR battle right now as a pro life movement to make sure that the Hyde Amendment is applied. I know that's wonky, but you're going to hear me talking about. So I wanted to explain it to you in person as best as I could. Now this gets me to my another point. This is also why Congress needs to debar Planned Parenthood. Why it's critical, because if Congress doesn't apply Hyde to these Obamacare subsidies, Obamacare is just going to be one of the many ways that Planned Parenthood and Big Abortion continue to get our taxpayer dollars. Because remember in the BBB that was signed into law on July 4, it only defunded Planned Parenthood Big Abortion from Medicaid, which is Medicaid is health insurance for poor people who can't even afford to get on the Obamacare subsidies. Right. And that was only for one year. And we thought, and we still believe it's only about 80% of Planned Parenthood's annual federal funding. There's still about 20% of money out there that they're getting from us in grants and like Title 10 grants. And like at one point Planned Parenthood was getting money from HHS to combat Zika that viruses being carried by mosquitoes that was causing miscarriages and pregnant women. Yeah, Planned Parenthood applied and was like getting money to present bent Zika. I don't know if they were just like giving out more abortions or what, but like they've got their little hands in the federal cookie jar like they got some really good grant writers. So this is why Planned Parenthood, if we want to be serious about totally telling Planned Parenthood to go fund themselves, we have to debar. Planned Parenthood debarment, once again, is that measure that the government would say, yep, but you're a bad actor. You've been proven to lie to taxpayers and steal taxpayer money. You don't deserve to be able to apply or receive any federal funds or do business with anyone who does for three years. That is the only way short of passing a bill in Congress which would need 60 votes to send, which we don't have to defund. Planned Parenthood debarment is the only way to totally tell Planned Parenthood to go fund themselves themselves. So we're going to continue watching what our legislators on Capitol Hill join. I will continue to report back to you on my Instagram stories and on my X feed if you don't pay attention. Max, that's where most of my like political things go on a day to day basis. But bottom line, if your health care kills people, you are doing health care wrong and we shouldn't be funding it. Nor should we be voting or allowing our elected officials to do the same. Hey Pro Lifegen, it's Kristen here. And if you're like me, spring is a perfect time to do some spring cleaning around the house. And I can't think of a better way to refresh your space than with brand new ultra soft bed sheets. Well, it does get better with bed sheets that support saving babies. That's why I'm so excited to share with you that Students who Love America has teamed up with Cloud Bedsheet fundraising to give $20 from every set of sheets you purchase directly to our Pro Life mission. These sheets are high quality, ultra soft and have a 99% satisfaction rate. 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Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Kristan Hawkins (President, Pro-Life Generation)
In this episode, Kristan Hawkins addresses three central pro-life issues:
Throughout, Hawkins takes a blunt, conversational tone—relating national policy conversation to pro-life advocacy and sharing her perspective on how pro-life supporters can impact ongoing and future legislative battles.
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On UK data:
“12,000 complications for chemical abortion pills in a very small country is alarming.” [06:35]
On FDA trust issues:
“The FDA has been infamous for having very, very, very, very liberal career employees.” [09:30]
On American healthcare:
“Since Obamacare went into effect... I can tell you 100%, my insurance rates and our insurance rates at Students for Life have gone up every single year by at least 20%. This year they went by 91%.” [26:25]
On ideological opposition:
“The abortion industry serves Moloch, right? A demon who demands human sacrifice. But I think they do. They want dead babies.” [24:10]
Call to action on funding:
“If your health care kills people, you are doing health care wrong and we shouldn’t be funding it. Nor should we be voting or allowing our elected officials to do the same.” [38:24]
This episode of The Kristan Hawkins Show outlines recent advancements and ongoing challenges for the pro-life movement. It features urgent warnings about the safety of chemical abortion pills—underscored by both US and UK data—while celebrating a court victory in Colorado securing women’s access to abortion pill reversal options. Hawkins closes with an in-depth examination of federal budget fights tied to abortion funding, calling on listeners to stay active and informed, and advocating for robust legislative solutions like the Hyde Amendment and debarment for major abortion providers.
For further updates, follow Kristan Hawkins on Instagram and X, and join her daily news text line by texting KRISTAN to 53445.