The Kristan Hawkins Show – Episode 35: Texas Wins BIG For Moms & Babies

Date: September 17, 2025
Host: Kristan Hawkins
Theme: Major Pro-Life Legislative Wins, the UN’s Surprising Critique of Surrogacy, the Scale of Abortion Among Gen Z, and an Update on Federal Defunding of Abortion Providers

Episode Overview

In this episode, Kristan Hawkins dives into a series of significant legislative moves in the pro-life sphere – with a focus on the monumental passage of Texas's anti-chemical abortion trafficking bill. She also breaks down a surprising UN report condemning surrogacy practices, addresses alarming (if hard to verify) statistics about abortion rates in Gen Z, and closes with news on recent judicial wins in defunding abortion providers nationwide. Throughout, Hawkins maintains an energetic, urgent, and mobilizing tone, frequently emphasizing the power of persistence and grassroots activism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Texas Passes Landmark Anti-Chemical Abortion Trafficking Law

[00:00–15:30]

• Background & Legislative Drama

  • Texas recently passed a groundbreaking bill aimed at stopping the illegal shipment and trafficking of chemical abortion pills into pro-life states.
  • The process was fraught: the “Women and Child Protection Act” was modeled after Students for Life’s legislation. It initially failed due to procedural blocks and political maneuvering, notably a lack of floor scheduling by Republican Chairman Ken King.
  • Governor Abbott called two special sessions; after multiple rounds and Democratic opposition (including the famed “quorum break”), the bill finally passed with a 17–8 Senate vote.

• Bill Provisions & Impact

  • The law allows any citizen to sue chemical abortion vendors who illegally ship abortion pills into Texas—$100,000 per occurrence.
    • “Anyone can now sue a chemical abortion vendor for violating the Comstock act, for violating the laws of the state and shipping these illegal drugs into the state.” – Kristan Hawkins [12:43]
  • Plaintiffs can include mothers, fathers, family members, or concerned pro-lifers.

• Advocacy & Next Steps

  • Hawkins underscores the persistence of the “pro-life gen,” praising activists and legislative champions like Senator Brian Hughes and Rep. Leach.
  • Notes a friendly rivalry: “Oklahoma doesn’t like to be outdid by Texas, let’s put that way.” – Kristan Hawkins [14:30]
  • Goal: Spread the model to other pro-life states (Oklahoma, West Virginia, Idaho, Indiana).

• Memorable Moment

  • Hawkins shares about Duke, a Students for Life Action Captain, who testified on his 17th birthday: “Love, Duke. He’s the boy in the cowboy hat in all the Students for Life Action Instagram pictures.” [15:24]

2. The UN’s Shocking Report Against Surrogacy

[15:31–23:00]

• A Surprising Critique

  • The UN’s Special Rapporteur on Violence Against Women and Girls, Reem Alsalem (previously critical of Dobbs), issued a report condemning exploitation in surrogacy.
  • The report exposes how surrogacy and IVF commodify women and children, especially targeting vulnerable women in poor nations.

• Key Findings & Quotes

  • Contracts often strip surrogate mothers of bodily autonomy and can force unwanted abortions or selective reductions.
    • “This is straight up human trafficking with prettier marketing.” – Kristan Hawkins [17:56]
  • Children born via surrogacy are at risk of abandonment, especially if born with disabilities, and may face identity issues.
    • Hawkins reads from the report:
      • “Very few if any background checks are carried out on commissioning parents. … The primary requirement … is the financial capacity to pay a substantial sum for the surrogacy procedure. … There have been reports of sex offenders commissioning children for surrogacy.” [18:27–19:02]
      • “The UN just admitted that sexual predators are paying to create human beings to sexually assault babies children. The UN just admitted that.” – Kristan Hawkins [20:15]

• Women’s Rights Violations

  • Exploitation includes medical risks, waiver of decision-making rights, constant surveillance, and, in some cases, abandonment without payment.
  • “Every single case of surrogacy violates the rights of children and women. There is no ethical way, there is no ethical way to do surrogacy. It’s just wrong.” – Kristan Hawkins [21:33]

• Pro-Life Application

  • Hawkins highlights how this aligns with long-held pro-life warnings about commodification and sex-selective abortion.

3. The Scale of Gen Z Abortions

[24:08–31:45]

• A Viral Stat and Its Verification

  • Viral claim: 28% of Gen Z has been aborted. Hawkins calls the stat hard to verify (“we don't actually have a national abortion reporting law in our country” [24:13]) but argues the scale is likely massive—perhaps even higher.

• Public Perception & Cultural Shifts

  • Critiques how the “safe, legal, and rare” messaging led Americans to underestimate the scale of abortion.
    • “That mantra, though, was demonic in the sense that it seeped into the psyche of Americans…” [25:21]
  • The abortion industry now avoids the word “rare,” focusing on “safe, legal, acceptable.”

• Real Consequences

  • Emphasizes abortion is not rare; tens of millions die globally each year. Uses analogies to communicate impact (“If you add up the populations of more than 100 of the world's smallest countries, you still do not reach the global death toll of abortion every single year.” [28:05])
  • Argues abortion results in an “immeasurable loss” to society—potential spouses, researchers, community members are missing due to abortion.

• Memorable Moment

  • Hawkins tells critics: “Yeah, I may not know your child that you're aborting, but maybe I would have. Maybe the child you were aborting was going to be the spouse of one of my children. Maybe the child you are aborting was going to cure some... cancer. Every single time a woman aborts a child … our humanity loses something we've all personally lost.” [29:34]

4. Judicial Wins on Defunding Abortion Providers

[31:46–End (~39:45)]

• Context

  • Reflects on the Congressional passage of a one-year ban on Medicaid funding to abortion providers (like Planned Parenthood and Maine Family Planning) as part of a broader budget bill signed by President Trump.

• Court Challenge in Maine

  • Planned Parenthood secured an injunction in Massachusetts, but a federal judge in Maine (Trump appointee Lance Walker) upheld the law, ruling Congress can choose where public funds go.
    • “It took a special kind of judicial hubris to undermine the defund law.” – Judge Walker, quoted by Kristan Hawkins [34:06]
    • “Congress is entitled to withhold federal funds and otherwise disassociate from conduct that is not enshrined as a constitutional right…” [34:24]

• Looking Ahead

  • Stresses this fight isn’t over—this is a one-year victory and further legal and legislative battles loom.
  • Pushes for stronger defunding provisions in future reconciliation bills, and mobilizing the pro-life base to hold elected officials accountable.
    • “Now we know this can happen. Now we know this can be done. Now we expect it done every single time.” – Kristan Hawkins [36:53]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The pro life gen does not give up. We introduced the bill. The bill died because of a feckless Republican politician … We introduced it again. It got diluted and died. … But we finally got it done.” [10:10]
• “This is massive… I want you to understand how big of a blueprint this is for other pro-life states.” [13:50]
• “This is not empowerment of poor women. This is straight up human trafficking with prettier marketing. That's what this is.” [17:56]
• “Children and women have fundamental rights that are violated in every single surrogacy transaction, every single one…” [21:11]
• “Yeah, I may not know your child that you're aborting, but maybe I would have. Maybe the child you were aborting was going to be the spouse of one of my children. … Every abortion hurts humanity. It's not just this…I don't understand that thought…” [29:34]
• “Sometimes debates are and can be gray and nuanced … This one is not. It's super simple. Killing babies is evil.” [35:21]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Victory in Texas: Legislative Journey — 00:00–15:30
• UN Report on Surrogacy: Key Takeaways — 15:31–23:00
• Scale and Impact of Gen Z Abortions — 24:08–31:45
• Federal Judge Upholds Defunding in Maine (& Next Steps) — 31:46–End

Structure & Flow

The episode flows as a “victory sandwich”—Hawkins bookends grim news with two affirming legislative wins, highlighting the power of persistent, collective pro-life advocacy. She moves quickly between policy detail, personal anecdote, and calls to action, maintaining a conversational, righteously indignant tone throughout.

For further context or action:

• UN Surrogacy Report [Referenced, will be in the show notes]
• Federal defunding updates via Students for Life

Call to Action:
Hawkins urges listeners to stay engaged—petition lawmakers, support pro-life groups, and subscribe for daily updates on advocacy opportunities.