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Kristin Boss
You're listening to the Kristen Boss Podcast. I'm your host, Kristin Boss. As a best selling author and performance coach, I'm on a mission to share about sustainable and purposeful approaches to both business and life. Each week I bring relevant topics that I believe are necessary to create a life of purpose, significance and meaning. Entrepreneurship is about so much more than growing your bottom line. It's about who you are becoming in the process and building a life that is truly extraordinary. Entrepreneurship is really just the beginning.
Hey bosses. Welcome to another episode of the podcast. I'm excited to talk about this episode because I love watching how people spend their money and I notice that there's.
A lot of talk out there about.
Like people aren't spending money the way they used to, sales are down, things are hard. I think it's not because people don't want your product. I have a completely different philosophy behind this because I've been observing consumer behaviors. I travel a lot and so I love to observe how people are spending their money. And my husband is in a bunch of like hobby Facebook groups like, and he's on. He's on a lawnmower kick. And it's really funny I'm saying that as like a lawnmower is going by my window right now with our yard getting mowed. But my husband is like researching lawnmowers to buy and he's very excited about it. But he's in these groups. He's in all these different hobby groups on Facebook where people are talking about products that they're buying, things they're buying. And like, when you are looking for evidence of people spending money, it's absolutely everywhere. And there is this thing called in your brain called your reticular activating system, where, where wherever you tell your brain to focus, it will look for evidence to make your theory or your viewpoint true in creating a confirmation bias. So, you know, for example, when I, you know, maybe it's a certain car you're driving, suddenly you see your car everywhere. Or if I tell you red car, your brain is going to filter out and feel like it's seen red cars everywhere for some reason, being like, there's never been this many red cars. No, no, no, no, no. You just haven't had your reticular activating system looking for red cars on purpose to bring it to your attention. So suddenly it feels like there's red cars everywhere. Or, you know, for example, I don't feel like I see pregnant people at all anymore. But when I was trying to get pregnant or pregnant, I felt like pregnancy was just absolutely everywhere. Which, by the way, if you are in a season of waiting and infertility, I see you. And I was there myself and everybody being pregnant was like literally the most painful thing in the world. So I apologize if, if that triggered you in any way. But all this to say is our brain likes to look for evidence of what we give it. So if you are like, nobody's spending money right now, Everybody's hurting, guess what? Your brain is going to look for evidence everywhere and be like, look, see, look, see, look, see. I'm actually of a different belief. I actually think, and this is known as the lipstick effect, whereas even during economic downturns, people spend. Spend money on things that make them feel good, that make them feel a certain kind of way. And this year I feel a certain kind of way. I'm sure you do too. And I want you to think about. I think it'd be amazing for you to do a little purchasing catalog for yourself and ask yourself, what have I bought in the last 30 days that makes me feel good? Now let me give you a simple example. I See this every day in my Starbucks drive through line. People. And you guys. And people are like, oh, it's the price of things. I'm like, BS it's the price of things. You know why? Because nobody is like, it's. If it were the price of things, then the Starbucks line would have slowed down. It's not. I still have to wait in line. And there's still somebody in front of me that's paying $9 for an oat milkshake and espresso. And it's also. It's me. It's me. Hi, it's me. You know why? Because I know I can make it at home with my own fancy espresso machine, but there's something about, like, the big, tall Starbucks plastic cup. I swear they have figured out how to just release dopamine in the drive through line as soon as your barista hands you your frosty beverage. And you're like, this is so dang good. Right? And so. And I saw this reel and I thought it was so perfect, so perfect for consumer behavior in 2024. And the reel was actually, it was from Little Foot. My millennials will probably know this.
We all grew up with Little Foot.
Little Foot. And what was the Little Ducky? Little Little Foot. And Ducky. And Little Foot was like, walking down the road and Ducky was behind Little Foot. It was like, da, da. And the. And the real. And the caption above, it said, me taking my daughter. Me. Me headed to Starbucks with my daughter to buy iced coffee and cake pop for our mental health. And I was just like, dang, that is consumer behavior of 2024. And I thought it was so honest because it's like, I think it said, like, going to spend $15 at. At Starbucks for a cold brew and a cake pop for our mental health. And I'm like, you know what that is Consumer Behavior 2024. It's like, I know. I'm fully aware I am spending more than what this is actually worth because it makes me feel good, because I like it, because it's a value to me. So if people are. People are not. I know this sounds crazy. I don't think people are slowing down their spending in general. I think they're slowing down their spending on things that don't make them feel a certain kind of way. They're like, I will spend things that are on absolutely essential to my, like, to, you know, like my mortgage, my electric bill, my groceries, those things, right? And then there's like the luxury or the added the nice things I think for them, they're like, okay, I'm still gonna spend money on that, but it has to. I'm not gonna do any mediocre purchases. It has to be things that make me feel a certain kind of way. And so that is why people are still willing to spend $9. Because if price was the problem, they would have stopped going to the Starbucks drive thru line. They're not. They're still buying the cake pops, they're still buying the cold brews. And I am watching how many people buy things. And now people could say, oh, the consumer debt is at an all time high. I'm not sure people are actually going into debt. I think they are getting themselves into tight financial circumstances. I think they are more tight financially because they are still indulging in the purchases that make them feel good. Right? Which is why I think having an income in the online space is like, cool. If you're like, if your mortgage and everything is already paid for, why not make money so that you can buy the things that you want to buy? Or so you don't have to say no. Did you guys know that psychologically consumers are more, more likely to run away from pain? So away from pain would be restricting my budget. I don't want to be told no. I don't want to have to say no. So they're more likely to run away from pain than they are towards desire. So let me give you an example. It's like, hey, do you want to, you know, make, make a hundred extra dollars so that you can have some things? Mm, sure. Or it's like, okay, hey, do you want to cut your budget so that you can save an extra a hundred dollars a month? They're gonna be like, oh, no, no, no, no. I'd rather find a way to make money because this is entrepreneurial mindset. Anyways, it's okay. I'll just go out and make more money. Because we all would rather go out and make more money than have to cut things. And this is a great way to actually sell the business. Being like, hey, instead of having to cut your budget, why not actually make some money in the online space so that you can have more to your budget so it feels a little more cushy or whatever it is. Right? And so not only this, so like Starbucks. I'm watching this. I'm watching like, I will go to Ulta or Sephora. I'm sorry, beauty girls. Like, I still buy from you, I promise. I still buy from you, but I really like going to my, my local Ulta or Sephora. It's just fun. It's just like. And I love taking my daughter. We just have fun going down the aisles and smelling perfume samples. And it's just, like, a girly place to be. I love it. And I will watch people drop hundreds of dollars on their way out of Ulta. And, like, and it's like, you guys watching, especially Gen Z, like, there's this whole joke, but it's true that millennials are aging better than Gen Z, and Gen Z is aging faster than millennials because Gen Z was. Is kind of exposed to all this get ready with me cosmetic beauty in the social. In the social selling space or the social media space that they're actually putting on products that are too advanced for their current skin, and it's aging them. It's fascinating. So, like, and dermatologists and doctors are having to come out and say, hey, kids, don't put this on your skin. It's not meant for you. It's meant for mature skin past the age of 30. So we have, like, kids spending so much money. Guys, money is everywhere. I want you to know this so that you actually have some buyer's confidence that people will happily buy from you. But you have to communicate how your product or service are good is going to make them feel a certain kind of way. You have to figure out, all right, how does this add to their dopamine, their instant gratification? Does it say or does it save them pain? People don't like pain. So tell me how it's going to take away pain or give me a lot of dopamine. One of those things. Like, I know going to Starbucks doesn't really take away, like, pain for me, other than, like, I can maybe dissociate from reality for my first five sips of my amazing Jake and espresso. Like, maybe then. But mostly I'm just going there because I get the dopamine as soon as I drive away from the window, and I'm like, oh, yes, so funny. My daughter just walked by my office with my sparkle boots that I wear on stage, and I do not know what she's about to do to do in them. But my daughter loves my wardrobe because there's sparkles everywhere. It makes her feel a certain kind of way. All right, so aside from Starbucks, aside from Ulta, I also, like, went to Disneyland this year with. With my kids and my family, and we love it. It's just like, I will. I will admit, I am the millennial Disney parent. Come at me. I don't care. Like, I am wearing my Mickey ears and I buy our family, like, Disney shirts when we go. And my husband and I grew up in Los Angeles, so we're like Disneyland people. It's very nostalgic for us. And so we have fun. We stay at the Grand. We stay at the Grand California. And we do like, our club level access. And it's very nice. And it's ruined us forever. We can't do Disneyland any other kind of way now. And we actually got to go to Club 33 this time. And it was, it was a super memorable experience. And so we're going through Disneyland and I, you guys, I can't shut off my business mind. Anywhere I go, I'm just like, I can't help but think of like, okay, what's the daily expenses of Disneyland? All right, what's their profit margins? All right, how much are they charging for this churro? What's the profit margin on this churro? You guys, I cannot, I cannot help myself. And I'm in those gift shops and I, again, I watch. There's, There's a shirt that I love. It's a long sleeve shirt, has Disneyland across the back. It is my favorite shirt. I love wearing it. It's like a sweatshirt, long sleeve type of thing. Can get all these themed shirts. And it's $80. It is $80. Am I a sucker and do I totally buy it? Absolutely. That stupid lounge fly backpack gear. Like, my daughter found, like a, A sparkly one that looked like little mermaid dropped $90 on that. But I'm, I'm not the only one. I'm watching people and, like, I'm doing the math, you guys. I'm doing the math in the park and the park is busy. I'm doing the math and I'm looking at families. I'm like, people are spending anywhere low end $2,000 to do this. If they flew here. Add that. Add even more. Some people. And I like, I'm in forums and people are like, oh, yeah, we spent 5,000, 10,000. Why? Because it, in some way, it speaks to the value of their life. Like, they're like, I will spend this money because I like the memories. I like the experience. It makes me feel a certain kind of way. That's going to be the catchphrase for this, for this podcast episode. Like, I like you guys. There's something about walking down Main street and you can spell, like, the ice cream and pirate water. It's the best. So apparently this is like my, I'm outing myself as A total Disney junkie. But anyways, I follow Disney people on Instagram and I watch how much money people spend on entertainment and fun and luxury and vacations. You guys, people have the resources. Now, could we argue that some people are maybe taking on debt to go to Disneyland? Yes. And if you're like, well, it's consumer debt. Well, listen, then why aren't people willing. Here's my thing. Why aren't people willing to take on debt to start a business that actually gives them a return, that makes them money? Right. There's consumer debt, but what we haven't done is I'm all about like, what is asset debt? What is debt that actually becomes like, where I'm putting money into something, where I'm gonna get a return on investment and becomes more valuable with time. That is how we have to be thinking. So when it comes to your business investments, by the way, when you pay for education, when you pay for coaches, when you pay to go to events, please talk to your tax consultant. That is considered a business write off, which means you save on the back end with how much you pay in taxes at the end of the year. Because you are an independent contractor having your own business. You have your 1099. So, friends, you actually want to look for ways to save on taxes. You want to actually look for. Talk to a tax professional. Okay, that's my rant on that. But listen, think guys, if you're doing content creation, find ways to like rent a studio, pay a photographer, whatever you want to be like. All right, cool. Ask your tax professional. Hey, how much do you think I should be spending per month in my business? That would be advantageous of me come tax season? What? Yes. Okay, so there's a lot you could do about that. I'm not going to do a full blown tax episode, but I want you to start thinking about how people spend money differently. Because trust me, people are still spending Amazon prime days. People are still going off. You just have to ask yourself, how do I communicate my product in a way that gives somebody a little bit of dopamine? When it, when it, when it's the whole add to cart, when it's the add to cart, and I help them see how this adds value to their life or just makes them feel good? Like you guys, my beauty people, my skincare people, just being like, you know, when you're a stressed out, you know, overstimulated mom, and the one thing you look forward to every night is your skincare routine and you could just do this luxurious reel or whatever it is. You have got to talk to how your product or business can either help them have more money so that they can buy the things that make them feel a certain kind of way, or buy your products and become a customer so that they can get their dopamine. All right, so friends, be careful of what you are taking in in your mind. And I want you again, I want you to do your purchasing inventory of the last 30 days and ask yourself, what were purchases I made that made me feel good and why do I keep. Why do I keep making those purchases? And what would I get rid of or not get rid of if I had to lean out my budget? And I would be very. I. I want you to catalog your own decisions of why you would choose to let some things go and not others. You have got. Once you understand your own consumer psychology when you create content, you will better be able to speak to the consumer psychology of people who follow you. When people are like, Kristen, I feel like you read my diary. I'm like, yeah, because I make it my business to understand the way you think, the way you think about your business, the way you think about your products, the way you think about money, the way you think about resources. Not in a way so I can manipulate you so that I could serve you better and answer your questions and be like, oh, yeah, you know what? I can see how they would think that way. Here's how it would serve them. So friends, also do a favor and like, walk into an ulta. Watch people spend money on beauty. Just, just watch people watch Go and Target, for Pete's sake. And just watch people spend money so that you can actually build your belief. People are spending money. I just need to work on getting in front of the right people, communicating in the right way, creating content that generates curiosity, gets their interest, speaks to their pain or their desires, and helps them feel a certain kind of way. I hope you found this episode helpful. Be sure to share it with a few friends. And if you haven't left a review of my podcast, I would so love that. It helps us get discovered, it helps us find new listeners. And again, I know you guys share this with your teams, with your friends, with your sidelines. Please keep sharing. Love it. So much love you guys. We'll see you guys in the next episode.
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The Kristen Boss Podcast: Episode 223 - Consumer Behavior with Starbucks & Disney
Release Date: August 5, 2024
In Episode 223 of The Kristen Boss Podcast, host Kristen Boss delves deep into the intricacies of consumer behavior in 2024, using iconic brands like Starbucks and Disney as primary examples. Through engaging discussions, insightful observations, and actionable business strategies, Kristen uncovers the psychological motivations behind today's purchasing decisions and how entrepreneurs can leverage this understanding to enhance their businesses.
Kristen opens the episode by addressing a common challenge faced by entrepreneurs: the gap between knowing what to do and actually implementing strategies. She emphasizes the importance of foundational habits and offers resources like The Hub and the Social Selling Academy to help listeners bridge this gap.
"There's something between knowing what to do and actually doing and following through... You don't have to do that." [00:05]
Kristen shares her passion for observing how people spend their money, both in her travels and through personal anecdotes involving her husband’s involvement in hobby groups on Facebook. She challenges the prevalent narrative that consumers are cutting back indiscriminately on spending.
"I think it's not because people don't want your product. I have a completely different philosophy behind this because I've been observing consumer behaviors." [02:26]
Delving into the science of perception, Kristen explains the role of the reticular activating system in shaping our awareness of consumer trends. She highlights how focusing on specific aspects can create a confirmation bias, making it seem as though certain behaviors are more prevalent than they actually are.
"Your brain is going to look for evidence of what we give it... it's going to filter out and feel like it's seen red cars everywhere." [05:15]
Kristen introduces the concept of the lipstick effect, where consumers maintain spending on items that provide emotional satisfaction even during economic downturns. She argues that people prioritize purchases that enhance their well-being over mere necessity.
"I actually think... this is known as the lipstick effect, whereas even during economic downturns, people spend on things that make them feel good." [04:50]
Using Starbucks as a case study, she observes that despite perceptions of high prices, consumers continue to flock to Starbucks for their daily indulgences, attributing this to the immediate dopamine release these purchases offer.
"If it were the price of things, then the Starbucks line would have slowed down. It's not... it's still $9 for an oat milkshake and espresso." [06:15]
Shifting focus to Disneyland, Kristen discusses how consumers are willing to spend significant amounts on experiences that hold sentimental and emotional value. She contrasts consumer debt with asset debt, advocating for investments that offer returns, such as business growth, over liabilities like leisure spending.
"They're like, I will spend this money because I like the memories. I like the experience. It makes me feel a certain kind of way." [12:30]
Kristen also touches on the importance of understanding and leveraging tax benefits related to business expenditures, encouraging entrepreneurs to view investments in their business as strategic moves that offer long-term value.
"When you pay for education, when you pay for coaches... that is considered a business write-off, which means you save on the back end with how much you pay in taxes." [15:40]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to exploring the psychological drivers behind consumer behavior. Kristen explains that consumers are more motivated to avoid pain (e.g., financial restrictions) than to seek out new desires. This insight is crucial for entrepreneurs aiming to position their products as solutions that alleviate pain or enhance happiness.
"Consumers are more likely to run away from pain... So if you could make money instead of cutting your budget, it feels a little more cushy." [16:50]
Kristen provides actionable advice for entrepreneurs to align their products and marketing strategies with the emotional motivations of consumers:
Create Content that Generates Curiosity and Interest: Develop content that speaks directly to the consumer's desires and pain points, fostering a connection that drives engagement and sales.
Communicate Value Through Emotional Benefits: Highlight how your product or service can provide instant gratification or alleviate pain, catering to the psychological triggers that influence purchasing decisions.
Invest in Business Growth as Asset Debt: Encourage reinvesting in business assets that offer returns, such as education and coaching, rather than accumulating liabilities.
"You have to communicate how your product or service is going to make them feel a certain kind of way. You have to figure out... does it save them pain or give them a lot of dopamine." [17:25]
Kristen urges listeners to conduct a personal purchasing inventory, reflecting on recent purchases to understand their motivations. This self-awareness is pivotal for entrepreneurs to empathize with their target audience and tailor their offerings accordingly.
"Do your purchasing inventory of the last 30 days and ask yourself, what were purchases I made that made me feel good and why do I keep making those purchases." [18:10]
In wrapping up, Kristen emphasizes the importance of building belief through consistent observation and understanding of consumer spending habits. By aligning business strategies with the emotional drivers of consumers, entrepreneurs can effectively serve their audience and foster loyal customer relationships.
"Once you understand your own consumer psychology when you create content, you will better be able to speak to the consumer psychology of people who follow you." [17:50]
Emotional Spending Prevails: Consumers prioritize purchases that provide emotional satisfaction over purely utilitarian needs, a behavior encapsulated by the lipstick effect.
Psychological Insights Are Crucial: Understanding the reticular activating system and confirmation bias helps in comprehending how consumers perceive and engage with products.
Investing in Assets Over Liabilities: Entrepreneurs should focus on business investments that offer returns and value, contrasting with consumer debts that do not.
Strategic Communication: Effectively communicate how your product alleviates pain or enhances happiness to resonate with consumer motivations.
Self-Reflection for Empathy: Conduct personal purchasing inventories to better understand and empathize with your target audience's behaviors and preferences.
Final Thoughts:
Kristen Boss's exploration of consumer behavior provides valuable insights for entrepreneurs aiming to navigate the modern marketplace. By recognizing the psychological underpinnings of spending and aligning business strategies accordingly, entrepreneurs can foster deeper connections with their audience and drive sustainable business growth.
Notable Quotes:
"There is this thing called in your brain called your reticular activating system... creating a confirmation bias." [05:15]
"People are still spending on things that make them feel good, because they like it, because it's a value to me." [06:45]
"Consumers are more likely to run away from pain than they are towards desire." [16:50]
"Once you understand your own consumer psychology when you create content, you will better be able to speak to the consumer psychology of people who follow you." [17:50]
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