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I was on fire today reading something Mario Murillo wrote. What happens after Trump, the church, he's calling it out like a prophet. He's saying, we aren't going to have that guy protecting us. And it's like these dogs are on a chain that want us. And we haven't even. We haven't even responded to the freedom Trump's given us to preach, but they're coming after us when he's not here. I want you to hear a warning from Mario Murillo and an opportunity, because something's happening in America right now and the rededication of this country to God that Trump wants. On May 17, something's going to happen. There's a shift in the atmosphere, and you need to hear about it. This season of war in the Middle East, I think it has to do with this whole scepter of Esther and Mordecai. I want you to get a hold of this teaching on how to access the throne room during historic periods of shaking. Go to lancewallnow.com Esther and in it, I've got a word from the evangelist Billy Graham that I think is going to really rock you. Something prophetic that he had brought out that is going to be part of this End Time story. The Scepter of Esther. Go to lancewellnut.com Esther 800-910-6349 and watch my friend Mario Murillo, because he's got a message which is just going to burn in your heart when you hear it, ladies and gentlemen. Don't touch that dial. You got to stay with me right now. This is one of the most important broadcasts I've done all year. I just got done reading the latest article while the flames are still on it, from Mario Murillo. I remember a book I got years ago. It was called on A.W. tozer, and the title of it was interesting. It was called the Prophet With A Pen. That was. Evangelicals considered Tozer a prophet with a pen. Well, Mario is known as an evangelist with, with legitimate signs and wonders. But I have to tell you, I mean, I'm not throwing this around lightly. I think he's the most prescient and prophetically accurate voice that I talk to regarding what's happening. You know why? Because he's not. He's not. I'm not trying to insult anybody. He's not living like a lot of us in the studio. He's out there on the front lines. And so every now and then, we gotta find out what's happening on the front lines, because thousands and thousands of people, when I hear about it, are coming to Christ when the gospel is preached. And it reminds me that we don't want to miss this moment. Mario, come join us. Welcome back.
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Thank you for your kind words, my friend. I agree with you. Whenever you and I have gotten together to do a show, it's amazing to me what comes out of it. It's like greater than the sum of its parts. And I feel like this is an urgent message. I mean, God burned it in me like very few in my life. And I'm glad that you are discerning the moment that we're in, because this is the moment.
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This is the matter of fact, I'm going to put a link up on all of my social media so people can sign up and read this. And I'm probably going to read it, do a live rant and read it out loud to you. What I want you to think about is listen to his opening here. What happens to the church after Trump? Here's a chilling hint. Even the pastors who despise him admit the church will lose protection. Donald Trump's been president a year and two months. He'll be gone before we know it. The remaining two years and 10 months will go like a blur. Worse still, the end could come as soon as November. If we lose the House and the Senate, then the Democrats will go for blood. Obama operative Susan Rice said those who take a knee to President Trump will be held accountable. And she predicted an accountability agenda. It's not going to be an instance of, you know, forgive and forget. Many in the church are going to find may find Trump offensive. He's blunt and forceful, but it is his alleged rudeness the left fears. The fear he invokes in them protects the church, even the church that hates them. And here's the funny part. They hate us as much as they hate Trump. I want you to catch that. They hate us as much as they hate Trump. They don't say, oh, well, you weren't really for him. They're going to say, all of you are guilty. You Christian nationalists, all of you. That is ironic because the church has not done much to help Trump. We're actually innocent of making any big challenges or changes to America, but they're coming for us anyway. Do you have any idea what it's going to be like after Trump? So the real damage is once the is in the once fervent remnant. They endured slurs. The left called them Christian nationalists. They energized voters. You could see them at school board meetings Prophesying and standing up against the evil. They condemned abortion from their pulpits and in fact, the list of their exploits is endless until it's ended. What ended it? This is such a true point. What, pray tell, is fascinating us now? What's preoccupied? What's mesmerizing? The clicks on the news feeds, ancient giants, the Nephilim UFOs, and the endless scandals of failed charismatic preachers. And I'll add to that Israel, antisemitism and a preoccupation with what did Tucker say? What did Nick Fuente say? What did Kelly, what's her name say? And it's like they're all debating. They're drinking more from Bill Maher than they are from the word of God. So let me ask you a question this once. I'm gonna have to read this again. A once mighty momentum created by the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk has given way to exotic sideshows. How tragic that millions of youth who were set ablaze and ready to go find resistance and even indifference to the revivals that are there. I think we need to cover the revivals more, Mario, because I've got people don't know. And if people don't know, then they're not aware that God's moving in the midst of them. So what do you say? So you're in California. Give me some evidence, some fruit. You've gone over into the promised land. You're coming back with a chunk of grapes in your shoulder. You're announcing, you're warning us. You guys are playing pat a cake and there's a battle coming to you. So what are you seeing?
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Well, I think that God is going to judge us for not winning souls when so many millions have wanted to get saved and be born again. We went to the second poorest county in California, San Bernardino, California. It is inundated with crime and addiction and everything else. And you can't believe the resistance I got from people that said, what are you doing? I said, God told me, bring the biggest tent that I have, 40,000 square foot tent, put it in the National Orange event fairgrounds. And all of a sudden, this is what began to happen. Thousands showed up. These are the seats. And then all of a sudden they were full. And 4,000 seats were not enough. And this is the most telling point is that it was primarily 30 years old and younger that were born again. And one night when I asked Those who were 31 years old or younger to stand up, they were the majority of the audience. And we had a man get out of a Wheelchair in front of young people. And you can't imagine the fire that, that starts in a youth army. But what I'm telling you is one night we had a thousand people come forward and you say, how do you know that we had a thousand workers? And one of the videos we'll see is going to show them outside the tent waiting. You'll see it. You have to look quick. But there's a thousand of our workers in the night and they're standing several feet outside the tent waiting for those who come forward. And they used them all up. They used every last one of them up. And the miracle is this will be repeated in any American city right now if the, if you'll give an altar call, you'll see souls saved. If you open your doors to your church, and if you stop trying to entertain the apathetic and listen to the, the heartbeat of God right now. Not since the Jesus movement have we seen anything like this. And now we're, we're headed to Stockton, California, the other afflicted city, and we're going to see the same kind of harvest they tell us. We had 3,000 people come forward in Stockton, I mean, in San Bernardino. And Lance, that's the thing that's burning in my heart. How can we ignore the harvest? It's bad enough that we're not helping Trump. We're not even winning. The people that want to be saved,
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man, I don't know whether to take an offering or to start praying to do something. I got to do something right now. Let me tell you something.
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The
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fact that there's a harvest out there tells me that we've got, like, I think you say this in your article. There's three different groups. We got, we've got over here, we have the Christian conservative MAGA people that obviously will get behind Trump until he's no longer there, and then we don't know what happens to them. We've got the deranged leftists who occupy still the institutional high places of the universities and legacy media. And, and they're just, they can't wait to get back in power in Washington. But in the middle is the people that halt between two opinions. It's the vast unsettled majority of Americans who are up for the harvest. And your premises that we've been here before. And the Jesus revolution, which you were part of. The Jesus movement, it kind of like worked into the soil of a whole lot of young people that got saved, who, as they matured, their values, were formed in a way that made the Reagan era a possibility. The 20 year olds became 30, they got married, they had kids, but their hearts were already moving towards what Ralph Reid could begin to cobble together. For Pat Robertson to say we actually have a Christian majority in America if we mobilize them, do you see the same possibility now?
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You see, it's exactly the same because one of the things that everyone misses and, and I love the Jesus Revolution movie. What it didn't tell you is how far gone America was in one year. And I want you to imagine this. In the mid-60s, the largest number of runaways that America ever saw was a hundred thousand kids in one year ran away. The first year of the Beatles and the hippies and the free love. The next year it went to 1 million runaways. 1 million kids ran away. Time magazine put it on the COVID God is dead. We had, you know, we don't talk about it a lot but the, the great Society that Lyndon Johnson proposed was pure socialism. And so we were a socialist nation. We were leftist. We said God was dead. Drug abuse was everywhere. The Vietnam war was raging and every, the nation was divided. You know, we talk about antifa. The Weather Underground blew up exploded bombs at the Pentagon, they tried to blow up the White House. They, this was an era that was so explosive and they wrote off the kids. I'm telling you, the young people responded to Charlie Kirk a martyr and they said, Jesus is worth dying for. We, and I'm going to tell you, we have 72 standing invitations to do 10 crusades in the United States. We are being told right, please come here, please come here, please come here. And everywhere we go, our one problem is a shortage of Bibles, a shortage of workers, a shortage of people to pray. We had 1400 volunteers in San Bernardino and it wasn't enough because so many people wanted God now. And I got to give props to Marco Garcia, the pastor of the Way World Outreach in San Bernardino, a powerful church that has several campuses in the Inland Empire. It was his idea that said, look, on Wednesday night, let's tell every cooperating church to have a baptismal service. And so the announcement was made, if you get saved, you got to get baptized in water. We had no idea what we had unleashed in that valley because they set up 10 separate baptismal pools inside the church. And they were running like crazy trying to get everyone baptized in water. And the testimonies of what God did to people, this will be repeated over and over and over again. I can't get to every city. I mean I can't get to them all. But I'll tell you this, we are, we are now watching. Like in the week that we were under that tent, over 1 million, 1.2 million people watch the crusade online and wanted to see what God was doing. This is exploding beyond anything we could have imagined. But I'm not, I'm not thrilled about it because I see the fact that our nation is hanging in the balance. We're losing this battle for all the wrong reasons. God has sent a harvest. God has sent millions of young people that if they, when they hear the gospel, I've had to interrupt my sermon because I look in their eyes and they want to get saved. I have to stop. I have to let them come up there. And this is going to be repeated over and over again. And that's why I believe we got to preach to change hearts right now, because hearts want to change.
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Hold it, Mario. I got to stop you right there. We got to take a quick break, then we'll be right back.
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There's something about Alaska that slows everything down.
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The mountains rise out of the water,
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glaciers move in the distance, and suddenly the noise you've been living in gets quiet enough that you can find peace again.
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July of 2026, sail from Seattle through the breathtaking passages of Alaska with Lance Wallnau. Along the way, we'll experience Juneau, Sitka, Ketchikan and Victoria while stepping into powerful times of teaching, worship, and conversations that bring clarity for the season we're living in.
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You can explore the entire experience right now@lance wallnow.com Cruise.
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Hey, I, I wanted to interrupt this for a moment because people keep saying, lance, you were in my neighborhood. I didn't even know you were here. I'm going to be in Boise, Idaho, March 12 at 7pm at the Awakened Church doing a flashpoint. This will be a big flashpoint event, but if you're in Boise, Idaho, or anywhere near, we'll be there March 12th and 13th, actually, with Flashpoint. And I'll be there Thursday at 7pm for sure. Then I'm flying back to Elevate Prophetic Conference in Dallas, Texas at the Shepherd's House. So check out the Shepherd's house, Saturday, March 14 at 9am and I'll see you there. God bless. Let me play a segment so people can understand what you're talking about, because even though you had a million that saw it, I want to get a million that didn't see it to get a taste of it. So play video cut 2 there so I can see Mario in the Tent.
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Raise your hand if you need healing in your body. Now if someone hand is raised near you. This is when miracles flow everywhere.
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Everywhere.
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This man was literally unable to stand on his own power and is standing and walking because greater is he who is in us. Greater is he who is in us. I'm gonna try it again, see if I got any Holy Ghost people here. Greater is he who is in us than he that is in the world. I ask you to wash away my sin. I ask you to come and live in me and forgive me of everything. Everything. Walk down the aisle. Down the aisle.
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I have no.
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Never seen anything quite like this in my life. Stand up and clap and say, welcome to the family of God. Shout real loud, welcome to the family of God.
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So how many churches were. Did you have churches working together out there?
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Yes, sir. Beautiful. It was beautiful. The. The unity was transcendent. We had the. The. This was Marco Garcia's, the pastor of the Way World Outreach. It was his idea. Said I want everyone. Because he spoke at. We had several hundred at a leaders brunch to organize the event. And he said, I want everyone in your church to bring 10 people and I want you to take this card. It had a beautifully designed card that ended up in all the churches and they were advertising nonstop in all their services to become a volunteer to invite your friends and bring people that didn't know Christ. And the atmosphere in the tent was unprecedented. I've never felt anything like what. And every one of us commented our team that is in every one of these. And I got to tell you about Kathryn Mullins. She was leading worship, and at one point she achieved something in worship that I looked at Frank Sal, you know, Frank Saldana, who is our 10th foreman. I said, I'm not going on that stage. I said, if I walk on that stage right now, I believe God will hit me with lightning because the people are in a state of abandonment to God. And. And it was unnecessary to give a long treatise because the people were there. They were already ready. It's. It. These. It defies description. And that's why I'm glad we have some of these videos because this was a new day for us. It's a new day.
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Well, what do you think is the solution to the fact that you've got 72 places, you've only got one. Mario Murillo is there. If the harvest is ripe, then what do you recommend we do? Because, you know, we can't wait for you to come to a city near us. So what's your Thinking on that.
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Well, I'm gonna be as bold as you are, brother. I'm gonna tell you what I think it is. I think we need to convene every pastor in America that is willing to come, and I want you to join me at this. I haven't booked it. It's not. I'm on the cuff right now. We need to get thousands of pastors together and pour the spirit of soul winning into them and send them back to their churches so filled with God and so filled with instruction on how to lead the soul. You know, the thing that people underestimate about us is our expertise in penetrating a neighborhood, a homeless camp, ica, inner city action that leads that aspect of our ministry. They are unparalleled. Nobody is like them. And I believe we could put that DNA in 2,000 or 3,000 pastors in one weekend and watch the glory of God just explode in churches all over the country. We're going to still do our tent crusades. One of the things we're doing is moving to the major cities. We're looking to go to Miami in November. And this one will strike you as rather odd. We are looking to go to Albany, New York, the capital of the state of New York. And there's a door that's open. Imagine if in upstate New York, in Albany, in the. In that capital city, if there's an outpouring of the spirit. But it's like you look on a map of the United States. Every state, I believe, is currently prepared right now to see a massive influx of souls. If millions of people are suddenly born again and we can explain to them the Christianity of the Bible, that leads to morality, it leads to family values, it leads to loving your children, keeping your marriage together. They're going to look at the party that says there are multiple genders. You can kill a child before it's born, even right after it's born, there is no saving the craziness of the agenda of the left at this point. You know, to me, they're as implacable as the regime in Iran. There's no negotiating with them anymore. Hearts have got to change. And I believe if they are changed and you know, I'm going to tell you I feel, and I'm going to stop in a second. I feel like this is it for me. This is it. I either do this now, pull out all the stops, see a tidal wave of morality break across America, something that you and I have always believed was coming, a great awakening. But the secret is this. We have got to Go and get the harvest. We've got to go and get it. And I for one, I'm going to do it. I don't care who goes with me or doesn't go with me. I, I'm going for it. And you wait. There's going to be as many people saved in Stockton, California as there was in San Bernardino. You're going to see it and it's going to it once again. And then the people that say, well, that was a one off the, you know, it was a mutation down there. It's not California. There's a beautiful church Life song church. They got 10 acres in the heart of Stockton and they're so loving and humble that all the churches respect them. So it's like neutral ground. Our tents going up there. We're doing a big brunch this weekend. But it's about this whole thing that you and I, Lance, first knew about when we were in Washington D.C. right? It began right there. And I'm telling your people, the base that follow Brother Lance, I'm telling you, this is what we've been waiting for, right? It's here.
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It's here in the atmosphere. Just out of curiosity, I want to see the video on this water baptism. Because when people do the water baptism in the Holy Ghost, it's more than just getting wet. I mean, they're actually, there's experience. I'm sure you've got people getting delivered and set free. All kinds of stuff. People don't get it unless you're in our stream that this is supernatural water play video 3. So I can see this.
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I'm here because I was broken. I was a bad father. I was addicted to drugs. I was homeless and I didn't know how to live. But once I turned my life over the care of God to Jesus, my life has changed.
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But how long were you addicted to drugs for?
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40 years.
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He's been addicted since he was 11 years old to methamphetamines, y'.
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All. I turned myself into a treatment program and that was the best thing that ever happened to me. And to have my two daughters here, I love them more than anything.
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And let me not skip past this. He mentioned being a bad father. He's got four children. Two of them are here tonight to
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watch their dad get water baptized.
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Do you know who that is with the microphone? Who's that guy that was narrating that?
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Yeah, that's Michael. He is a associate with the Way World Outreach, Marco Garcia. And let me tell you, I want to give again props to The Way World Outreach in San Bernardino because I think they're the best kept secret in the United States right now. And they were the perfect fit. And I'm going to say this as tactfully as I can. Very often we come into a city with so much fervor and fire and soul winning anointing that we have to kind of pull the church up out of its bad habits. This was a perfect equality. Marco and the Way World Outreach were on fire. We were on fire and it was like nitroglycerin. And when it exploded, it was Marco's idea to do the baptismal. It was their help that made it possible for the thousands who wanted Jesus and got saved. It was because of their work and his influence that we were able to find a practical way of getting 10 baptismal tanks and all the workers organized to just dunk everybody.
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How do people get in touch with you? How do they track with you?
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Go to Mario Murillo.org Mario Murillo.org that's all you got to do. And you'll see a window to everything that's going on in various ways for you to plug in and be a part of this massive influx.
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Mario Murillo M U R I l l o.org I encourage you if you want to, want to sow into the harvest, there's great ground to sow into. Tell, tell my audience here for a moment about how this pastor, where he came from, wasn't he a businessman, A marketplace? Put another seven minutes on for me, Will.
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Yeah, I'll do it real quick because I think, I think, you know, you need to have him on the show for, for one thing, imagine if the rich young ruler said, okay, I'll give it all up like Jesus asked him to. Marco Garcia was one of the most successful. He, he was the closer in one of the biggest car dealerships. And at that time he was making an $40,000 a month 20 years ago. And he was walking through, he was driving home and he went through one of the worst areas of San Bernardino and he saw the need. And so God led him to get his friends, his Christian friends who were part of another church. And he got his Christian friends together and said, we're going to choose 12 blocks in the most hard hit part of San Bernardino. We're going to give them food, we're going to try to fix their homes, we're just going to love on them. And so they started going door to door and the first door that they knocked on was an elderly woman that never Came to the doors totally by herself. And Marco and his team went in and they, they cut the weeds where you could barely see her porch because everything was overgrown. And they loved on her. She received Christ. The next door that they knocked on, they walked in, Marco walked in and the family had just lost a 19 year old girl who killed herself. And the way she killed herself was the ceiling in the living room of that house was. There was a leak in the roof that they couldn't pay for fixing. Eventually it destroyed the sheetrock and it fell, revealing the rafters. And she tied a rope around her neck and in the rafters and killed herself. And they're praying with his family. And then Marco says, why? Why did she do that? Said it was a suicide pact. There's nine others. Marco said, get all nine of these other high school students together. And he led them all to Christ. And every time they kept saying, do you have a church? Do you have a church now? The church that Marco was going to saw his gift and they offered him the church and he said, no, and I'm not going to live in my, my big fancy home and drive my fancy car. He said to his wife, we belong in this area right here and we're going to start this thing. And, and one day I get a call to come preach in his new building, his first building rather, because he was in the community center. They had no air conditioning. July in San Bernardino, it was over 90 degrees inside the building and everyone in there was poor, everyone was former prostitute, a drug addict. And I just came back a few more times. I kept up with Marco and his ministry exploded to these poor. He has nine campuses. He bought the 120,000 square foot call center that Wells Fargo owned in San Bernardino and essentially he took it over. And now it's just no limit. Thousands and thousands of people are being won. And when he, and when we partnered and brought in the 10, it was just an amazing, perfect partnership. And that's it. It's incredible.
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So the origin of this is he went door to door and found out really what the community needed. I mean, he ended up doing a survey of what was in his own backyard. And so sometimes maybe the harvest doesn't come to you, you got to go to it. And that's, that's part of the lesson there.
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Part of the lesson for us is the reason we got a tent is that we could go where the need was. We could plant this thing in the middle of where gangs rivalry occurs, where you're within walking distance of a homeless Camp. And the thing is, it's like Tommy Barnett said, he said if you'll go after the people that nobody wants, God will turn them into the people that everybody wants. And that's what's happening. And God is building an army out of the most discarded and marginalized people, is forming an army. And I can't tell you how excited I am to be a part of it.
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Well, you're a bit of a. Like what is a climatologist? You've been around watching this from the Jesus movement till now. What is different about the. Or is there a difference now between now and the Jesus movement? Is it that the political divisions in the country have become so more articulated and that what would you say is the distinction about this moment compared to the Jesus era?
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Okay, I'm going to make it real concise because I know I got to watch the time. I tend to over answer. So I'm going to say this. I believe that Jesus Christ has the temperament of a lamb and the temperament of a lion. And you look at the matrix of the Jesus movement. It was acoustic, it was gentle, it was love and peace. The reason the devil has so in this next phase tried to pervert the prophetic message, it's because the next revival will be born again. Actual young prophets. Not the drugstore kind, not the TED talk kind, not the exotic kind, not the I've got to have clicks kind, but young people with a prophetic edge. I think that Kim Clement was accurate when he understood what was going to happen with a Cyrus like Donald Trump and that he would provide run the COVID But then suddenly now I believe it is the direct fulfillment I will pour out of my spirit on your sons and daughters. And they will what, sing in the round? They will what, hand out flowers? No, they will prophesy. Charlie Kirk was the. The emergent model of speaking to the sin of a culture, of addressing, of standing under the porch of the King and calling him out. The kids that are getting saved now are going to do that. They're going to be the moral agents of a convicting era of repentance. The one element that is so hard to find in church models right now. And the young people are going to do it. And I watched them and they're coming. And friends, the media has no defense against them. There's no defense against them because they will destroy every stereotype that the left or CNN or MSNBC will try to throw and say, oh, this is a Bible thumping southern Christian. No, no. They're going to come from the south, they're going to come from the north, the south, the east and the West. But the key is they're going to be so compelling. And I really, really believe that it's going to be a spirit filled movement. That's the one element I believe is about to be added, is the baptism in the Holy Spirit, and, pardon me, with the evidence of speaking in tongues. I just do that to create certain reactions. But I believe it's coming, my friend.
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I believe it is too. And I'm going to end with this thought. I believe that apostolic evangelism teams are going to form because what they have, the left has no answer for is when we go out and we have an Arab, we have a black, we have a Latino, we have an Asian, we have a couple of Caucasians. And they look at that and they literally don't quite know how to label it because it doesn't look like white Christian nationalism when it's black and Latinos preaching alongside of you. So I think that God's going to do what the Apostle Paul did. He had a diverse team on purpose to show the real chemistry and makeup of the kingdom is inclusive of, of every tribe and every tongue. That's real diversity, equity and inclusion. They all got filled with the Holy Ghost and they deferred to one another in honor. And I pray that, that we're going to keep this conversation going. Mario, I believe we have to have to talk more, I mean, a lot more frequently. And I'm going to get this message out. I want to tell everybody, you need to read this. The church after Trump, because I believe this year, when he announces this out of nowhere on the day, you know, National Day of Prayer, he just says, I want to do a rededication of America to God in May 17th. And my hair is on fire because I said, he's literally doing everything. He would watch that service and that testimony. He'd be on the front row. I know him. He'd look to the side, he'd look this way to the people in his family, and he'd be applauding right there. Because this is kind of like what he wants for America.
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This is what he wants
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in the name of Jesus. We're going to see it. And I think we got something cooking that I want to talk to you about regarding that dedication that we need to seize the moment when he rededicates. We need to grab that proclamation and say, you've taken this as far as you can. Boom. It's up to the church to actually implement what does it mean to turn a nation to righteousness? That's our job, not his. Mario Murillo mariomarillo.org Everybody get this article. I'm going to try to post it for you. And if you're listening on a podcast, mariomarilla.org, do that. When you get this is over, just go online and get it. We'll see you again in the future, brother. Thank you for the work you're doing.
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Thank you, my friend.
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And we'll see all of you again on our next broadcast. God bless. Did you enjoy this latest episode? Please remember to share it with your your friends because the more knowledge you have, the better equipped you are to navigate the world.