Episode 4: David Wood

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Last 12 Weeks

Episode 4: David Wood

Release Date: June 18, 2026
Host: Maurice Chammah (Serial Productions & The New York Times)

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the pivotal question of David Wood’s true character and culpability, as the clock ticks down to his scheduled execution for the notorious “Desert Killer” murders in El Paso, Texas. Host Maurice Chammah sets out to dive beyond the legal records and polarized innocence-versus-guilt debate, exploring Wood’s past, the powerful victim testimony against him, and Wood’s own perspective as his final days approach. Through interviews with a key victim (“Christy”), Wood himself, and details from inside the death row facility, the episode probes how much our sense of justice—and sympathy—depends on who we believe David Wood really is.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Framing the Stakes – The Paradox of David Wood’s Case

• Unlike Most Death Row Inmates: Wood is pursuing an innocence claim, with his lawyers arguing not the appropriateness of the death penalty but his fundamental guilt (00:33).
  • Quote: “David Wood is rare in that sense… they’re judging the person.” – Maurice (00:33)
• Historical Context: At Wood's 1992 trial, jurors were forced to assess his future threat to society, as life without parole was not an option—execution was considered the only way to prevent future harm.

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2. Christy’s Story – Victim Testimony

A Brave, Personal Account

• Interview with “Christy” (survivor of Wood’s prior rape, testifying under first name only):
  • Recounts her assault at age 13—being accosted in a park at night, attacked, manipulated, and then raped (04:59–07:03).
  • Quote: “So I turned around, but it was dark...and when I realized it wasn’t Henry, he jolted forward and took his arm and, like, wrapped it around my neck.” – Christy (05:47)
  • Identification Scene: Describes the forensic process of selecting Wood’s face and her emotional reaction to police identification (07:31–08:13).
  • Quote: “He said, son of a bitch…does anybody look familiar? And I picked him out, and it was David Wood.” – Christy (07:52–08:14)

Impact on Her Life

• Christy speaks about the life-long effects: her hyper-vigilance as a parent, the challenge of sharing her story with her daughters, and her sense of having been robbed of normalcy (10:11).
  • Quote: “I never let my kids leave my side at any store…when they turned 13, I told them what happened, and it connected the dots.” – Christy (10:11)

Motive for Speaking Out

• Christy’s purpose is to leave no doubt about Wood’s guilt, directly challenging any defense claims of his innocence (11:09).
  • Quote: “My purpose is so there’s not a doubt in the listener’s mind…that David Wood really is the Desert Killer.” – Christy (11:09–11:22)

Geographic Tour

• Christy drives Maurice and the team through her old El Paso neighborhood, illustrating the proximity of her attack, locations of victims' disappearances, and where bodies were found—underlining the case’s “geography of guilt” argument (11:43–12:12).

Response to Defense Doubts

• She dismisses the defense’s suggestions of alternative culprits or lack of DNA, expressing unwavering certainty in Wood’s guilt (12:44).
  • Quote: “I know the neighborhood, I know where the abductions took place…And all of that fits his mantra. So I call BS.” – Christy (12:44)

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3. Meeting David Wood – Inside Death Row

Introduction and Impressions

• Death Row Setting: Maurice describes Polunsky Unit, visiting Wood in an interview booth behind plexiglass (14:19).
• Wood’s Demeanor: He is gruff, defensive, with a rough look—long hair, tattoos, all-white prison jumpsuit (15:13).

Wood’s Background & Narrative

• Troubled Childhood: Institutionalized mother, punitive father, early trouble at school, patterns of violence and crime (16:00–16:34).
• Incarceration History: Has spent almost his entire adult life behind bars, admits prison made him “come out worse” (17:01).
  • Quote: “Anytime I came out of prison, I came out worse than I went in. I came out very hostile.” – Wood (17:01)

Evasive & Defensive

• Wood minimizes or denies his prior sexual assault convictions, frequently redirecting focus to his murder charges and innocence claims (17:48–18:12).
  • Dismisses one rape as not his doing, and an incident with a 12-year-old as “nothing really happened” (17:48–17:58).
  • On Christy’s attack, his account shifts to “things got out of hand” due to alcohol, in sharp contrast to her description (18:41–18:57).
  • Quote: “It was a bad thing. I mean, I did a bad thing… I was under the influence.” – Wood (19:06)

The “Patsy” Argument

• Wood argues he was targeted by police due to his criminal record and antagonistic behavior, not actual evidence (21:44).
  • Quote: “I’m the moron that turned out to be the scapegoat.” – Wood (21:44)
• Host Commentary: Maurice acknowledges how defensive and self-serving Wood can seem, but notes his frustration facing execution for crimes he denies (19:31).
• Wood illustrates his point with a rape accusation (against “B”) where he was cleared by DNA—the prosecution had to drop the case. He holds this up as proof the police were over-eager to blame him for all unsolved crimes in El Paso (22:12).

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4. Facing Execution – Wood’s State of Mind & His Lawyers

Death Watch & Reflection

• Wood’s Situation: 22 days before execution, describes the process and his attempts to come to terms with it (25:59).
  • Quote: “I don’t know. God’s will. That’s all I know.” – Wood (25:59)
• Faith: Wood claims religion has become a solace for him on death row—he reads the Bible, meets with a spiritual advisor, has been baptized (26:12).

Sympathy & Remorse

• Host’s Perspective: Maurice remains unconvinced by Wood’s refusal to own his past actions, finding Wood less credible but recognizing his humanity is complex—“possibly innocent of the murders, but certainly not sympathetic” (26:12).
• Wood’s Acknowledgment: In closing, Wood admits he does not expect sympathy but insists, regardless of his past, he is not a murderer (27:31).
  • Quote: “Regardless of my past, let the case speak for itself.” – Wood (28:05)
• In a final emotional moment, Wood stresses he “could never kill a child,” expressing pain at being accused of killing a 15-year-old girl (29:41).
  • Quote: “All the crazy stuff I’ve done, murder’s never come forward in my life…” – Wood (29:41)

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5. The Defense’s Theory – Guilt by Reputation

• Wood’s lawyers argue that his prior crimes and reputation made him an easy target for police, leading to testimony and theories stitched together to “fit” him as the killer, despite minimal physical evidence (28:05).
  • Host’s Summary: “Yes, they say David Wood is a rapist, but he’s not a serial killer. It was the El Paso police and prosecutors who turned him into one.” – Maurice (28:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote or Moment | |-----------|--------------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 05:47 | Christy (Victim) | “So I turned around…but it was dark…he jolted forward and took his arm and wrapped it around my neck.”| | 07:52 | Christy (Victim) | “He said, son of a bitch…and he laid them out and he said, does anybody look familiar? And I picked him out…”| | 10:11 | Christy (Victim) | “I never let my kids leave my side at any store…when they turned 13…I told them what happened, and it connected the dots…”| | 12:44 | Christy (Victim) | “I know the neighborhood…I call BS…There’s no ounce of me that feels he’s innocent.” | | 17:01 | David Wood | “Anytime I came out of prison, I came out worse than I went in. I came out very hostile.” | | 19:06 | David Wood | “It was a bad thing. I mean, I did a bad thing… I was under the influence.” | | 21:44 | David Wood | “I’m the moron that turned out to be the scapegoat.” | | 25:59 | David Wood | “I don’t know. God’s will. That’s All I know, yeah…” | | 28:05 | David Wood | “Regardless of my past, let the case speak for itself.” | | 29:41 | David Wood | “I could never kill a child. I could never. That’s just never, never. It’s just impossible.” |

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:33 – Introduction of the dilemma: Wood’s guilt and the jury’s role
• 04:59–08:16 – Christy’s account of the attack and identification
• 11:09–12:44 – Christy’s motivations, certainty, and on-site tour
• 14:19–16:34 – Entry into prison; description of Wood’s background
• 17:01–18:41 – Wood discusses his prison experience and prior crimes
• 19:06 – Diverging accounts of the rape
• 21:44–22:12 – Wood’s “patsy”/ scapegoat explanation
• 25:59–29:41 – Wood on faith, facing execution, and a final plea of innocence

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Tone & Atmosphere

• Christy: Determined, traumatized, intent on bearing witness and defending truth. Clear, emotionally weighted, never wavering in her certainty.
• Wood: Defensive, frustrated, at times dismissive but with flashes of vulnerability and religious resignation.
• Maurice (Host): Analytical, probing, empathetic where possible, focused on nuance and the limitations of understanding in capital cases.

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Takeaway & Episode Utility

This episode thoroughly explores the intersection of character, reputation, and hard evidence in capital murder cases. It forces the listener to confront uncomfortable ambiguities—how much does a person’s past or personality shape our beliefs in their guilt or innocence? It also reveals the stakes for all involved: the shattering impact on victims, the haunted solitude of the condemned, and the reckoning required of those who must judge.

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Next Time: The season finale – David Wood’s last days and the outcome of the lawyers’ final efforts.

Transcript

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[Maurice Shama]

Most prisoners on death row are not pursuing innocence claims. David Wood is rare in that sense. His lawyers aren't arguing about whether he should die for his crimes, but about whether he committed them at all. An argument that big, that fundamental, tends to lock people into their corners. He's either a serial killer or an innocent man. It makes it tougher to honestly assess some of the more basic questions I have about David Wood. What kind of person is he? And more to the point, what exactly is he capable of? The last time anyone seriously took up those questions was 33 years ago at his capital murder trial during what's called the penalty phase. After a jury found David Wood guilty, they had to come back to court to decide his punishment. In Texas, juries have to consider whether or not the defendant poses a future threat to society. In this phase of the trial, the jury isn't just judging the crime anymore, they're judging the person. And in David's case, they had to do a risk assessment. Back then, life in prison without parole wasn't an option in Texas. So if the jury thought David Wood might kill again, the only surefire way to prevent it was to execute him. Prosecutors made the argument for the death penalty by bringing up David Wood's past crimes. They had a lot to work with. Before the desert murders, he had three rape convictions, another conviction of indecency with a 12 year old girl, and then on top of that, three more women and girls had made accusations against him too, ranging from attempted kidnapping to rape. The story the prosecution told the jury was clear. David Wood escalated his crimes. He went from being a serial rapist to a serial killer. Is there any reason to think he'd stop? It was a convincing argument, one that's held for more than three decades. And yet David Wood has insisted all along that it isn't true. We're going to death row to hear him tell us why. But before we head there, we're going to talk to somebody with a very different feeling about the kind of person David Wood is. One of the victims who testified against him from Serial Productions, the Marshall Project, and the New York Times. This is the last 12 weeks. I'm Maurice Shama.

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[Maurice Shama]

Do you want to introduce yourself and how we should identify you?

[Christy (Victim)]

What I told him is I just want to use my first name. I don't want to use Christy at 13. That's how I want you to identify me.

[Maurice Shama]

Kristi was 13 when David Wood raped her. She's in her late 50s now and says very few people in her life know the story. She's about to tell us about her connection to El Paso's most notorious serial killer case. When Christy was in middle school, she was hanging out at her friend's house one night and realized she had to get home to make curfew. Her house was in walking distance, and she figured she could shave a few minutes off by cutting through a park. But it was getting dark out, so she called her boyfriend Henry and asked him to meet her along the way. As she made her way into the park, she felt footsteps behind her. At first, she figured it was Henry trying to catch up. But Henry wasn't saying anything, which she thought was odd.

[Christy (Victim)]

And so I turned around, but it was dark. And back then, you didn't have street lights because it was on a park. So I was, like, straining. I remember straining my eyes, like, you know, doesn't really look like Henry. And when I realized it wasn't Henry, he jolted forward and took his arm and, like, wrapped it around my neck.

[Maurice Shama]

Christy says they started scuffling, and she fell to the ground. She kept fighting, kicking up at him.

[Christy (Victim)]

I was a gymnast. I was kind of jockey, you know what I'm saying? So I threw my feet up into his chest. And then he said, knock it off. Stop. You know, quit doing it. And I said, what are you doing? What are you doing? You know, get away. And I remember looking over at the

[Maurice Shama]

house, like, to Kristi, David Wood seemed upset. As she remembers it, he claimed she'd thrown a rock at his truck and hit the windshield, and now he was going to walk her home to explain this to her parents. Christy had no idea what he was talking about with the windshield, but he was insistent. She figured maybe this was just a misunderstanding.

[Christy (Victim)]

And I really. I stupidly probably believed the windshield story at that point. It was like, ugh, you know, you're. We're gonna go to my house and my dad's gonna tell you you're full of shit, and we're gonna be fine, or Henry's gonna catch up and you're gonna get your butt kicked. I was in that mindset at that point in time.

[Maurice Shama]

But Henry never showed up, and David Wood didn't take her to her house. Instead, Christy says, he led her to a drainage ditch and raped her. After it was over, Christy says, he disappeared. She walked home, and, still in a daze, took a bath to clean off the blood and gravel. She eventually reported the rape to the police. An officer asked her to identify the man and set her up at a table with pictures. Each one had a part of a face, a kind of DIY forensic art puzzle.

[Christy (Victim)]

Like, you were piecing the face together. So you did. Hairline, forehead, eyeset, nose, lips, mouth, chin.

[Maurice Shama]

Christy spent several days with these puzzle pieces. She talked to detectives repeatedly, rehashing what happened to her over and over again. When Kristi says one of the detectives suddenly had an epiphany as to who

[Christy (Victim)]

her attacker might be, he said, son of a bitch. And he slammed the desk. And he walked out and he came back in and he had about 10 pictures, and he laid them out and he said, does anybody look familiar? And I picked him out,

[Maurice Shama]

and it was David Wood.

[Christy (Victim)]

I picked him out.

[Maurice Shama]

David Wood, it turned out, had just been accused of another rape less than two weeks earlier. The rest happened pretty quickly. He pled guilty to both rapes and was sentenced to 20 years in prison. But in the end, he only served seven. A few years later, he went on trial for the desert murders and was found guilty. At that point, prosecutors went back to Kristi for help. They wanted her to testify about her rape to help ensure David Wood got the death penalty. Christy was reluctant. She was newly married, had a job and a new baby. She didn't want to have to fly to Dallas for the trial.

[Christy (Victim)]

I remember being very mad that they were going to subpoena me and sequester me in Dallas because I had my daughter and my daughter was like six months old. And nobody in my immediate existence had any idea that I had any connection to this person. And it was. Honestly, I was angry. I was really angry that. That you're going to come disrupt my adult life.

[Maurice Shama]

But Christie also saw this as an opportunity. For the first time in years, she'd be face to face with David Wood, and. And this time, she wouldn't be a scared 13 year old.

[Christy (Victim)]

I stared him down the entire time I testified, and he didn't look up at me. I think he looked up at me once, but I would not take my gaze off of him because I wanted him to know that I was in control. It was very much about me having the power back.

[Maurice Shama]

Power, control, safety. This is what Christy says David Wood took from her. When I first arrived at Christy's house, I. I noticed a sort of decoy entrance, a front door that leads to a long courtyard before the real front door. Kristi designed this setup herself so that she can suss out any visitors before they get too close. She has two daughters now, and she acknowledges that her parenting style when they were small was a little less than relaxed.

[Christy (Victim)]

I don't let them walk across the street. I don't let them walk to school. I don't let them walk home from school. I never let my kids ride a bike. I never let my kids leave my side at any store. With both of my daughters, when they turned 13, I told them what happened, and it connected the dots of why I was such an overbearing mother growing up.

[Maurice Shama]

It's almost like he robbed you of a lot of things, including the ability to, like, have some chill. Some chill with your kids.

[Christy (Victim)]

100%.

[Maurice Shama]

Christy says her daughters, who are both grown and out of the house now, cautioned her against doing this interview at all. They didn't see the point of stirring up old trauma. But Christy has a mission here. She's eager to talk with us, she says, mostly because she wants to get to you.

[Christy (Victim)]

My purpose is so there's not a doubt in the listener's mind. And I'm gonna take away that doubt from your mind.

[Maurice Shama]

Any doubt that David Wood really is the desert Killer.

[Christy (Victim)]

That's my purpose of all this and

[Maurice Shama]

to make us really understand, she says we need to see where it all went down in her old neighborhood in El Paso.

[Christy (Victim)]

So we'll trace my tracks, and then I'll tell you where the other tracks were, and then we'll go to where the bodies were found, and then you can just kind of see how everything's so interconnected.

[Maurice Shama]

The tour itself is a tight little loop, much shorter than I was expecting. In about 10 minutes, we see Christy's childhood home, the park where David Wood raped her, and very close by the middle school that some of the missing girls went to.

[Christy (Victim)]

This is where the bodies were found.

[Maurice Shama]

Oh, wow.

[David Sanger]

Right here.

[Maurice Shama]

Much closer.

[Christy (Victim)]

Yes.

[Maurice Shama]

It's compelling. Being driven around like this, seeing landmarks of the case pass by the car window in rapid succession.

[Christy (Victim)]

So do you see how close?

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[Christy (Victim)]

Everything is. And his house is down one of these side streets?

[David Wood]

Yep. Okay.

[Maurice Shama]

Christie's argument is an argument about geography, about proximity. A serial rapist gets out of prison, hangs around the neighborhood where he once raped her, and then girls start disappearing. How many explanations could there be? How could it be anyone else? After the tour, Alvin and I do offer up a few of the problems the defense lawyers have identified, including the lack of DNA testing. But Christie bats it all away.

[Christy (Victim)]

I know the neighborhood, I know the area, and I know where the abductions took place. And all of that fits his mantra. So I call BS. At what point do we start saying that the justice system served their duty? And why does he still have a voice when the victims don't? There's no ounce of me that feels he's innocent by 1 100% convinced that it's him.

[David Wood]

People are going to hear about me. They're going to hate me. I get it. I'm just a convict in prison saying I'm innocent. And they're going, yeah, right, you lying piece of crap.

[Maurice Shama]

After the break, David Wood. Hi, this is Andy. I've been a New York Times subscriber for years and years and I'm trying

[David Wood]

to get my teenagers interested in reading it. If they were to have their own logins and we could share articles, I think that would help get them interested.

[Maurice Shama]

It would also then allow us to

[David Wood]

discuss over the dinner table or wherever. Thank you very much, Andy. We heard you.

[Maurice Shama]

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[David Wood]

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[Maurice Shama]

All the men on death row in Texas are housed at the Allen B. Polanski unit, named after a guy who was on a prison oversight board but also happens to be, of all things, a real estate attorney in San Antonio. He actually inherited the honor from an insurance executive in Dallas who asked to have his name taken off the unit. He told a newspaper that it upset his mother. On the day Alvin and I arrive, There are nearly 3,000 men held inside the prison. 171 of them are on death row. We walk through a metal detector and a series of heavy gates and into the interview room. There's a row of tiny booths with phone receivers wired into them. We're separated from David Wood by plexiglass. He's on the other end of our booth in a little cell. We pass a microphone over and watch for a second as he struggles to set it up.

[David Wood]

I've been locked up so long, I don't even know what modern technology is.

[Maurice Shama]

David wears an all white jumpsuit. He's got long white hair and lots of tattoos. Looks a little like a roadie for a metal band or the biker at the end of the bar. I was aware going into this interview how fraught it was with expectations, mine and his. My aim was to get to know David beyond the facts of the case, who he is as a person. Was he contrite? Did he have regrets? But I got a heads up from his lead lawyer, Greg, that David mainly wanted to talk about the case. He saw this as his one chance to set the record straight three weeks out from his execution. So we both had some ambitious goals for this conversation. And yet one thing that wasn't going to help either of us was the prison's extremely strict time limit for this interview. So, yeah, since we only have an hour, that's.

[David Wood]

It is an hour.

[Maurice Shama]

Yeah, it's.

[David Wood]

It's all that's going to go extremely fast.

[Maurice Shama]

It's going to go fast. Let's run through the basics. David Wood was born in 1957 in San Angelo, Texas. He was one of four kids, and his background is familiar for death row in so much as it was pretty grim. His mom was institutionalized for mental illness when he was little. His dad would deny him dinner if he misbehaved. He struggled at school. Hyperactive, couldn't concentrate as a first grader. One time he just stood up in the middle of class and started walking home. By his teens, he was getting into all kinds of trouble.

[David Wood]

I can tell you some stories. Usually it was bad when I would drink, I would get drunk. You just absolutely could not tell me what I could and could not do.

[Maurice Shama]

I mean, you really can't go much further in David's life story without getting into his time in prison. And I mean that in a literal sense. He's been incarcerated for the overwhelming majority of his adult life. By my count, he spent a total of three years in the free world since he turned 18. He's now 68 years old.

[David Wood]

As soon as I got to prison, violence started. I mean, it was violent from the time I got there. It was violent the whole time I was there. Anytime I came out of prison, I came out worse than I went in. I came out very hostile.

[Maurice Shama]

We didn't get very far in our conversation before I could feel David's frustration. He wanted to talk about all the problems Greg has identified in his death penalty case. But I kept asking him about his prior crimes, the three sexual assault cases he did plead guilty to. I wanted to see how David's versions of events lined up with what I'd read in court documents. I figured it'd help me suss out his reliability as a narrator. But David didn't like that line of questioning. He was eager to speedrun through all of his priors. For example, here he is talking about a rape conviction where the victim was 19.

[David Wood]

It's a long story, and I'll make it short. I really didn't. I didn't do that case.

[Maurice Shama]

And here he is on another conviction, this one for indecency with a minor. The victim was 12.

[David Wood]

There was no scratches, no bruises, no injuries, nothing. An incident happened. It probably scared the crud out of someone. So really nothing happened, but that's pretty much it.

[Maurice Shama]

Yeah. Okay. I mean, so I don't even really

[David Wood]

like talking about that. This is type of stuff I didn't want to talk about.

[Maurice Shama]

Although David did plead guilty to these crimes, his versions of events were wildly different from what I'd read in court records. He downplayed what he did in one assault, and the other assault he tried to deny entirely I wasn't able to talk to those women. But Christie's story was fresh in my mind. I asked him to take me back to that night and describe what happened. At first, his account roughly lined up with Christie's.

[David Wood]

Met her at a park. I was drinking with a friend of mine. She was there. Started walking back towards her house.

[Maurice Shama]

But then it veered sharply.

[David Wood]

We started making out by a bridge, by a ditch. By then I was kind of loaded and we were making out kind of heavy. Things just got out of hand.

[Maurice Shama]

I mean, she described it later at the trial as like a kind of a nightmare for her. Do you have a. Yeah, I mean, do you have sort of. How do you feel about.

[David Wood]

It was a bad thing. I mean, I did a bad thing, and what can I say? It was a bad thing. I was under the influence. Now the law enforcement will tell you that we can't use alcohol or drugs as an excuse. And everybody who has goes, are you crazy? Are we really in our right minds when we are drunk or high?

[Maurice Shama]

I want to dwell for one more beat on how far apart these accounts are. Christie described David's attack as intentional, predatory. David denies the whole rock thrown at the windshield story and says what happened was basically a drunken mistake that got out of hand. I find his way of talking about it off putting, to put it mildly. And it doesn't do wonders for his overall reliability. But I also see where it kind of cross purposes. David has 22 days before the state is scheduled to execute him for murders he's adamant he didn't commit. And here I am with all these questions about crimes he already served his time for. His frustration, while unpleasant and self serving, was not totally surprising given the time crunch. We move on to what he really wants to talk about. The crux of why he's sitting here on death row, the way he tells it, it started when he got on the wrong side of some detectives in El Paso. After David got out of prison for Christie's rape in 1987, he was on parole. In his telling, it was a more stable time for him, relatively speaking. He got a job, moved in with a girlfriend.

[David Wood]

Everything was pretty good, except every time I had a run in with police, it didn't go well. It didn't go well.

[Maurice Shama]

Women and girls in El Paso started disappearing just weeks after he got out of prison. And as their bodies started surfacing in the desert, David became one of the main suspects. He says the detectives working these murders were constantly harassing him, showing up at random moments to question him, and he didn't take it very well.

[David Wood]

Every encounter I had with the detectives became extremely hostile, very much so. I was very disrespectful, very confrontational.

[Maurice Shama]

David says over the long course of this case, these interactions got worse and worse. He tells a story about detectives trying to question him about one of the girl's disappearances early on. And he responded by telling them to kiss his ass and peeling off on his Harley. By the time he was arrested, he said he was shouting at a detective about all the terrible things he'd do to his family if he ever got out. David believes all this personal stuff combined with his record is a big part of why the Desert murders got laid at his feet.

[David Wood]

I'm the moron that turned out to be the scapegoat.

[Maurice Shama]

I see. You're like a patsy.

[David Wood]

Well, I. Look, first of all, before you start getting the wrong impression, I fully, fully admit of putting myself in the position to be a target of these people. I see it was me. I accept all responsibility for bringing their ill feelings towards me. Not because of the case, but because it became personal.

[Maurice Shama]

So this is David's explanation that the might of the El Paso law enforcement apparatus converged to make him a patsy for six murders, largely because they didn't like him. Maybe that sounds plausible to you, or maybe the whole thing feels a little far fetched. It certainly did to Detective Johnny Guerrero, who denies that the El Paso PD targeted David in any way. But there is one story from this era that makes it a little harder to write David off completely. In January of 1987, two weeks after David gets out of prison for his rape convictions, a teenager is walking through a park. We're just using our first initial B. She was a minor when this all happened and she asked not to be named. But we've corroborated the story with police reports and court records. In any case, Bea is walking through the park, actually the same park where David grabbed Kristi. A man grabs Bea, hits her in the face and walks her to a ditch where he rapes her. Bea reports it right away. So the police collect a rape kit. Bea tells the police she didn't get a good look at the man's face, but she remembers his voice. They set her up with an audio lineup, which is what it sounds like. She listens to a series of recordings of suspects voices, and she picks one. It's David Wood's voice. He becomes the lead suspect in her rape. Over the next few months, David Wood becomes the prime suspect for the Desert murders. The police get Frustrated, given all the suspicion floating around the sky and the lack of smoking guns. So they look back at the case of Bea. Case where there's both positive identification and biological evidence they can test. They figure if they can make a connection between David Wood and Bea's rape, they can start proving a pattern that'll help to put him away for the Desert murders. So they get a warrant to collect David Wood's blood, and they test it against the semen in Bea's rape kit. And the test excludes David Wood as the rapist. Prosecutors have to drop the case. To David, the story is a key exhibit for his argument that he was railroaded. It shows the police were willing to blame him for every bad thing that happened in El Paso. And if he didn't have biological evidence on his side, maybe he'd have gone to prison for Bee's rape, too. In David's mind, this is all prologue to the Desert murder case. It shows just how easy it was for him to become a target. Just how easy it was for him to lose the benefit of the doubt. If David's lawyers can't stop the execution, then David will die in 22 days. Specifically, he'll receive a lethal dose of pentobarbital, which is. Which will stop his breathing and eventually his heart. That might sound clinical, but past executions have been pretty grisly. There are times when the drugs don't work or don't work quickly enough and you have men groaning in pain and reportedly feeling like they're drowning, suffocating, or burning. David's heard the stories. During his time on death row, more than 400 people have been executed. Some of them his best friends in the world. So all things considered, David is clear eyed about this and knows the odds are against him. At the same time, he feels some amount of hope. And that's mainly because of his lawyer, Greg. When David was first scheduled to be executed in 2009, he was full of hate and anger. He felt totally alone, like his death was inevitable. So he says he gave up completely. He gave away his possessions, his typewriter, even his shoes. But then Greg won him a stay of execution. Other guys on the road told David he was lucky to get such a good lawyer. David says Greg reminded him of Mr. Rogers, someone decent and kind who he could actually open up to. So now, even though David is facing execution again, he doesn't feel like he's fighting it alone. What do you expect to happen in the next few weeks?

[David Wood]

I don't know. God's will. That's All I know, yeah. So, yeah, it's kind of affecting me now. But if it happens and I believe in my faith, that's God's will.

[Maurice Shama]

Men on death row talk about their faith a lot, as you might imagine. And I do think David is sincere here. He was baptized a few years ago and meets regularly with a spiritual advisor. He spends hours reading the Bible and watching faith based movies on a prison issued tablet. There is ultimately only so much you can get to know a person in an hour. But this version of David, the religious one, was hard to square with the more callous version from earlier in our interview. I went in looking for signs of remorse, some help. Thinking about the binary innocent man or serial killer. By that standard, I wasn't sure what to make of David. For me, he landed somewhere more complicated. Possibly innocent of the murders, but certainly not sympathetic. When the jury was deciding David Wood's punishment, they had to decide what they made of him as a person, how much sympathy they could muster for someone like him. I wanted this interview to kind of approximate that experience so that you could decide what sympathy you might hold for him, if any. I suspect that for many of you, it might not be much. With just a few minutes left in our hour together, I ran this idea past him directly. You can imagine somebody listening to all this and saying, well, you know, I'm not sympathetic to this guy. What would you say to someone like that?

[David Wood]

I don't really know what to say because we don't have time. Our time is already running out. But the first thing I would do is I would not like the character like me. I wouldn't have too much sympathy for him. Again, from the beginning, I didn't really know this was. I thought this was going to be about the case. But when Greg told me, no, they're going to try to get you people as new as a person. Like, who cares what I think people think of me? I didn't do this case. Regardless of my past, let the case speak for itself,

[Maurice Shama]

regardless of my past, meaning regardless of being a convicted rapist. But actually, for David Wood's lawyers, his past is very much part of the story here, as counterintuitive as it may sound. They say David Wood's prior crimes strengthen the case for his innocence. The defense team's theory goes something like the police and prosecutors began their investigation by looking at the least sympathetic characters in El Paso. And that's how they came to focus on David Wood, a rapist just out of prison with a tendency to mouth off. There was hardly any Physical evidence tying him to the murders, this theory goes. So instead, prosecutors highlighted questionable witnesses and ignored evidence that pointed in other directions. David's lawyers think none of this would have worked if he was an upstanding citizen. So yes, they say David Wood is a rapist, but he's not a serial killer. It was the El Paso police and prosecutors who turned him into one. 33 years ago, a jury decided David Wood was guilty, but also that he was irredeemable, that he would, if given the chance, kill again. David's whole case disputes the very premise of that judgment. He's saying it's not about remorse or about what he is or isn't capable of. He's saying, look at the facts, the DNA, the fibers, the timeline, and let that be enough. But just as we get the signal to wrap up and we start saying our goodbyes, David seems to reconsider, to think more about how he's coming across. He gives it one last shot, for whatever it's worth.

[David Wood]

Just. Just so everybody knows, I feel whatever happened to them people, it was bad. It was horrible. My deepest hurt that I have and I tried to deal with is I'm accused of sexually assaulting and killing a 15 year old girl. Now, my past is one thing I. But I could never kill a child. I could never. That's just never, never. It's just impossible. And I'm just telling y' all to for yourselves. I don't care if anybody else hears it. It's bothered me all the time to think, man, I am accused of killing a young girl. All the crazy stuff I've done, murders never come forward in my life. Y' all take care. I appreciate y' all seeing me. God bless.

[Maurice Shama]

For the next three weeks, David will be on death watch, an area reserved for men with upcoming execution dates. On the day of his execution, March 13, 2025, he'll be woken up early and driven in a prison van about an hour west to the state's execution chamber in Huntsville. He'll spend the day saying his goodbyes to his family and his lawyers. All the while, he'll be waiting to hear from the courts to hear if they'll grant him another last minute stay or if he'll die from lethal injection. They have until six o'.

[Christy (Victim)]

Clock.

[Maurice Shama]

That's next time on the final episode of the last 12 weeks. The last 12 weeks is written and reported by me, Maurice Shama and Alvin Melith. Alvin produced the series. Jen Guerra edited the series along with Anita Batijo. Julie Snyder is the executive editor for Serial Productions. Additional editing from Akiba Solomon. Fact checking and research by Ben Phelan. Music supervision by Jen Guerra and Phoebe Wang with mixing by Phoebe Wang. Additional mixing by Katherine Anderson. Tracking direction from Sean Cole. Our associate producer is Mac Miller. Additional production by Anita Batijo. Additional reporting by Valerie Boy Ramsey. There's a lot about the death penalty that we couldn't fit into this show. Stories from Capitol defense lawyers. A fascinating look at the data behind executions. You can find all of that in our newsletter. Sign up for it at nytimes.com serialnewsletter. Original music for this series by Adam Dorn, aka Motion Worker, Matthias Bassi and John Evans of Stellwagen Symphonette. Additional music by Dan Powell and Marion Lozano. Adam Dorn, AKA Motion Worker, composed our theme song. Video production by Sean Devaney. Our Standards editor is Susan Wessling. Legal review from Al Amin Sumar and Jackson Bush. The art for our show comes from Pablo Delkhan. Sam Dolnick is Deputy Managing Editor of the New York Times. Special thanks to Kyle Grandillo, David Dow, Ebony Reed and Samantha winter. The last 12 weeks is a production of Cereal Productions, the Marshall Project and the New York Times.

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