Episode 117: Steering Shipping’s Future – Sustainability & Energy Transition at Swire

Guest: Susana Germino, Chief Sustainability & Energy Transition Officer, Swire Shipping & Swire Bulk

Episode Overview: In this episode, part of The Last Dinosaur’s partnership with the Captain’s Table Challenge, I sit down with Susana Germino to explore how one of the world’s oldest shipping companies is tackling the energy transition. From her personal journey — starting in coal transport and now leading sustainability — to Swire’s ambitious targets and pragmatic approach, Susana shares how legacy, innovation, and data come together in the drive toward decarbonization.

The Last Dinosaur is also proud to be a media partner for London International Shipping Week (LISW) 2025 and SHIPPINGInsight.

Key Points:

From Coal to Clean: Susana’s transition from managing coal transport in Indonesia to spearheading Swire’s sustainability and energy transition strategy.
Sustainability as a License to Operate: How Swire shifted from “nice-to-have” to embedding sustainability at the core of operations.
Targets & Roadmap: Net zero by 2050, 50% reductions by 2030, and near-term wins from biofuels and efficiency programs.
Innovation & Experimentation: Why budgeting for failure is essential to real progress in maritime decarbonization.
Just-in-Time Shipping: The potential fuel savings — and why ports and terminals are the missing link.
Future Fuels & Training Gaps: The reality of infrastructure, seafarer training, and readiness for ammonia, methanol, and bio-LNG.
Data & AI: From rudimentary collection to advanced voyage optimization, why AI is only as strong as the strategy it supports.

Learn More:

Episode 84: Innovation and Collaboration in the Maritime Industry with Vishal Khattri
Episode 111: Cybersecurity at Sea with Dr. Gary Kessler

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