Michelle Pfeiffer | War Or Else

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Late Show Pod Show with Stephen Colbert

Episode: Michelle Pfeiffer | War Or Else
Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Stephen Colbert
Main Guest: Michelle Pfeiffer

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Overview

This episode of The Late Show Pod Show serves up Stephen Colbert's signature blend of sharp political satire and celebrity conversation. The first half features Colbert’s comedic monologue lampooning U.S. political developments surrounding the recent war in Iran. The latter half is a conversation with Oscar-nominated actress Michelle Pfeiffer, focusing on her new project "The Madison," her working process, on-set stories, and ventures outside of acting.

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Monologue: The Aftermath of the Iran War

Timestamps: 00:05–10:42

Key Discussion Points

• "The War is Very Complete. Pretty Much."
  Colbert riffs on President Trump’s contradictory statements about the end of the Iran war, mocking political double-speak and the administration's uncertainty.
• Media and PR Spin:
  Stephen likens the back-and-forth narrative to “Grey’s Anatomy,” saying,

  "So it's over, but somehow still going. It's the military strategy known as Grey's Anatomy. It's a quality show. I'm a huge Ellen Pompeo fan." (01:55)

• Trump’s “Short-term Excursion” Comparison:
  Jokes about militaristic “excursions” and likens regime change to a cruise package upgrade.
• Spending Outrage at the Pentagon:
  Colbert skewers the Defense Department’s lavish expenditures on items like fruit basket stands, fine dining, and luxury recliners.

  "Hegseth also all out on the buffet. Reportedly, the Pentagon spent $2 million on crab legs, $6.9 million on lobster tail, and over $15 million on ribeye steaks." (03:30)

• Trump's Dress Shoe Dictate:
  Mocks reports that President Trump has mandated matching Florsheim wingtips for prominent officials, leading to awkward fashion moments among administration members.

  "It's hysterical because everybody's afraid to not wear them. ... Trump’s wet little shoe cucks." (09:22)

• Notable Quote:

  "If Iran has put out any mines in the Hormuz Strait and we have no reports of them doing so, we want them removed immediately. ... the military consequences in Tehran will be at a level never seen before." (Colbert quoting Trump, 02:56)

• Comedy Highlights:
  Jokes about the defense budget, including childlike party favors:

  "$3,160 on stickers with characters from Dora the Explorer, Frozen, and Paw Patrol. And despite all that, nobody came to Pete Hegseth's birthday party." (04:37)

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Guest Segment: Michelle Pfeiffer

Timestamps: 10:54–20:09

Introduction

• Pfeiffer’s Arrival:

  "Please welcome to the Late Show, Michelle Pfeiffer. No, no, no, you sit, you sit. We stand. Here you go. You're the guest. I'm the host. So nice to meet you." (11:38)

Project Spotlight: “The Madison”

• Getting the Role:
  Pfeiffer describes how she joined "The Madison" before seeing a script and how Taylor Sheridan’s direct approach shaped her involvement.

  “Actually, I committed. There was no script.” (12:20)
  “I want to know who the actress is and then I write to that actress and I get it. That's a compliment.” (13:13)

• Show’s Premise:
  Pfeiffer plays Stacy Clyburn, a New York matriarch uprooted by tragedy and relocated to Montana.

  “It's kind of a fish out of water story.” (13:34)

• Helen Mirren’s Endorsement:
  To vet Sheridan, Pfeiffer reached out to Mirren:

  “She said the scripts are great and best productions I've ever worked on and I'm having a blast. So I thought that's no better recommendation right there.” (14:16)

• Reunion with Kurt Russell:

  • Fond reminiscences of working with Russell; his on-set charisma and memorable hair.

    “He comes in and he just takes command and you feel safe with him.” (15:30)
    “Those dimples. I know." (15:45)

Shooting in Montana & On-Set Stories

• Filming in Nature:
  Pfeiffer describes the Montana landscape as “majestic” and the sky as “the most beautiful skies I’ve ever seen.”

  “And Montana is the star of the show.” (16:36)

• Wolf Co-star:
  Pfeiffer shares a story about acting with a real wolf, the complications of wearing suede, and the production’s care for animal co-stars.

  “That is a proper wolf. They have a tiny bit of dog mixed in with them. Otherwise they’re not trainable.” (17:32)

• Notable Moment:
  On animal sensitivity:

  “Are you wearing any leather? ... Because ... it will make him very sad.” (17:57)
  Pfeiffer laughingly confesses:
  “So you made a wolf sad on purpose?” — Colbert (18:51)
  “I have a death wish.” — Pfeiffer (17:51)

Entrepreneurship: Fragrance Business

• Starting Henry Rose:

  “It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.” (19:10)
  Henry Rose is inspired by her children (“Henry and Rose”) and is focused on safety and transparency.

• On Scent and Children:

  “Does it smell like your children?” — Colbert
  “I wouldn't want things that smelled like my children. You know, kids don't smell that good sometimes after the beans.” (19:36)

• Colbert Receives a Gift:
  Pfeiffer wraps the segment by gifting Colbert a bottle of Henry Rose for his wife.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Artistic Faith:

  “I had to commit sight unseen. I mean, he has a pretty good track record.” — Pfeiffer (13:29)

• On Montana:

  "They call it big sky for a reason." — Pfeiffer (16:58)

• On Kurt Russell:

  “His hair's amazing.” — Colbert (15:51)
  “It's crazy. It's crazy.” — Pfeiffer (15:52)

• On Wolves in Showbiz:

  “I wasn’t able to get really close. So that picture was taken after the scene and I stripped my jacket off and went over and kissed the wolf.” — Pfeiffer (18:53)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:05–10:42 — Monologue and political satire on the Iran war, Pentagon spending, and Trump’s “man shoe mandate”
• 10:54–11:38 — Michelle Pfeiffer introduced
• 12:20–14:32 — Pfeiffer on getting “The Madison” role without a script, Taylor Sheridan, and Helen Mirren’s advice
• 14:32–15:46 — Reuniting with Kurt Russell
• 16:33–17:56 — Shooting in Montana, adapting to the wilderness
• 17:27–18:53 — Acting alongside a wolf, wardrobe misadventure, and animal sensitivity
• 19:05–20:09 — Entrepreneurship: creating Henry Rose fragrance, inspiration, and gifting a bottle to Colbert

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Conclusion

This episode delivers an entertaining mix of timely satire and honest, whimsical celebrity discussion. Colbert’s biting humor frames political absurdity, while Michelle Pfeiffer’s charm and candor shine as she recounts professional leaps of faith, the beauty of Montana, unpredictable animal actors, and her foray into clean fragrance. Perfect for those seeking wit, lighthearted storytelling, and behind-the-scenes insight.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome, friends, to the Late Show. I'm your host, Stephen Colbert. You know what, I hope you guys got out today. It was a fantastic day in New York. It was 70s sunny. It would be a great day to hold a parade. And I guess we should, because according to the president, the war in Iran is over. Yesterday he told a CBS reporter, I think the war is very complete, pretty much. Oh, so it's not totally over. Oh, now it seems weird that I ran out of time square and French kissed an Elmo. Yeah. Coughing up red fur all day. After he declared victory, Trump tried to reassure a nervous GOP that despite the recent spike in the price of oil, his war is no biggie. We took a little excursion because we felt we had to do that to get rid of some evil. And I think you'll see it's going to be a short term excursion. Yes, just a little excursion. Little short term excursion. Just like Royal Caribbean cruises where you can choose excursions between snorkeling, rum tasting and regime change. Yeah, that's an upcharge. That's an upcharge. Regime change. Great though. Midnight regime change. Trump doubled down on his peace message yesterday at a press conference at his Doral Golf Club. A reporter asked him about the apparent inconsistency in his administration's messages.

[B]

You've said the war is, quote, very complete, but your defense secretary says this is just the beginning. So which is it and how long should Americans be putting it in the States?

[A]

Well, I think you could say it both. So it's over, but somehow still going. It's the military strategy known as Grey's Anatomy. It's a quality show. I'm a huge Ellen Pompeo fan. Trump kept trying to have it both ways. We could call it a tremendous success right now as we leave here, I could call it. Or we could go further. And we're going to go further. Oh, okay. So we've achieved success, but we're not going to stop. It's like that Kenny Rogers song. You gotta know when to hold up. Know when to hold up. Know when to hold up. Know when to hold. Hours. Hours. We love Kenny. We miss you, Kenny. We miss you, Kenny. Hours after declaring the war over, Trump took to social media to threaten Iran over the Strait of Hormuz. Which brings me to Hormuz news. You can use part twos. Let's get straight to it. 20 to 30% of the world's oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz, making it a major player in the world of straits. That's why it was disturbing when earlier today CBS News reported that U.S. intelligence assets have begun to see indications Iran is taking steps to deploy mines in the Strait of Hormuz shipping lane. Oh, yeah, that's not good. Which means it's time to update the graphic. It's now Hormuz News. You can use part two's Ker Blues. Trump was not happy with the report posting. If Iran has put out any mines in the Hormuz Strait and we have no reports of them doing so, we want them removed immediately. If for any reason mines were placed and they are not removed forthwith, the military consequences in Tehran will be at a level never seen before. Oh, the gloves are off. Iran. If those mines aren't removed tonight, he's going to put a giant screen on your southern border and show you all the Melania movie. Okay, sorry. Geneva Conventions be damned. So far, this war has cost over $6 billion. But burning through cash is nothing new for Secretary of War Pete Hegseth because a government watchdog discovered that he blew billions on things like $5.3 million for new iPads, $60,000 for Herman Miller recliners, and $12,000 for fruit basket stands. Wait, you're ordering what? That's what I think. What? Is that you. Did you say that out loud? Thank you for paying attention to the words I say, madam. Either that or you just woke up in this theater. What? Not again. So anyway, $12,000 for fruit. Okay, Wait, you're ordering fruit? This is my emotional state. Right. Okay. You're ordering fruit baskets so fancy they come with a stand. Come on, Pete. If you need fruit at work, do the normal thing. Put a clementine in your tote and find it three weeks later when it's a furry gray golf ball. Hegseth also. I'm with her. Hegseth also all out on the buffet. Reportedly, The Pentagon spent $2 million on crab legs, $6.9 million on lobster tail, and over $15 million on ribeye steaks. No, no, no, no, no. Boo. They're just harkening back to our founders. As Paul Revere declared on his famous ride. One if by surf, two if by turf. Wasn. It wasn't all high class food. They also spent $140,000 on donuts, $124,000 on ice cream machines, and $3,160 on stickers with characters from Dora the Explorer, Frozen, and Paw Patrol. And despite all that, nobody came to Pete Hegseth's birthday party. This was an historic splurge. In 2025 alone, the Pentagon spent $225 million on new furniture, which is more in one year than it had in over a decade. And I'm being told we have a photo of the government employee ordering all that furniture. You have a good shot. You have a good shot if you know what. Now, most of these purchases have no military purpose. For instance, hegseth spent over $98,000 for a Steinway grand piano for the Air Force chief of staff's home. What kind of Air Force chief of staff. I agree. What kind of Air Force chief of staff needs a grand piano? Okay, that makes sense. Trump also has big plans for America's feet. I'll tell you all about it in tonight's shoes news. Shoes. We got to get those shoes. News to the Strait of Hormuz. Reportedly, the President has started doling out dress shoes to friends and advisors, guessing people's shoe size in front of them, and a week later sending them a pair of Florsheim wingtips. You know, there's a word for a leader selecting clothing for his disciples. It's cultural. Put on the floor, shines as father instructs, then slip on the purple poncho and prepare to board the comet for our journey to Skylago. And it's not just a couple. I put even less effort into that impression than usual just then. It's not just a couple of pairs of shoes, folks. White House officials are saying all the boys have them, and it's hysterical because everybody's afraid to not wear them. Hysterical. Just like that classic joke. Knock, knock. Who's there? It's the man who checks the shoes. I see you're not wearing them. Get in the van. So far, the folks seen wearing Trump's mandatory man shoe include J.D. vance, Marco Rubio, Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, Sean Hannity, and Senator Lindsey Graham. Or as they're collectively known, Trump's wet little shoe cucks. Now check out. That's not nice. That's not a nice thing to say. Let's take that out. Check him out. Sp Sporting their matching brogues and Davos. But remember, Trump is just guessing at their shoe sizes. He's not measuring them. He's guessing, then ordering. And sometimes he actually overshoots. Take a look at JD Vance and Marco Rubio's itty bitty ankles drowning in their giant clown shoes. What is crazier than that? Here's another recent shot of Marcus, who tried on his dad's. Tried on his dad's shoes to pretend to be secretary of big boys. One more person confused by the shoes is the owner of the shoe company who said he was unaware of the president's orders and declined to comment further. Not great when your shoes become associated with a widely reviled madman. It's why Nike stopped making the air. Jared from Subways. We got a great show for you tonight.

[B]

Coming up, Michelle Pfeiffer.

[A]

Welcome back, everybody. Ladies and gentlemen, my first guest tonight is an Oscar nominated actress. You know, from Dangerous Liaisons, Batman Returns and Ant man and the Wasp. She now stars in the Madison.

[B]

Where are you going? It's your father. So where are you going? It is rude to talk on the phone in a restaurant. It is also rude to play on your phone in a restaurant and surf the Internet. Basically, what all of you are doing right now is rude. Rude to who? It's rude to me. It's rude to each other. It's rude to the staff. Just rude.

[A]

Please welcome to the Late Show. Michelle Pfeiffer. No, no, no, you sit, you sit. We stand. Here you go. You're the guest. I'm the host. So nice to meet you. Thanks for coming on.

[B]

Oh, I can't believe it's been. I haven't been on your show before.

[A]

Well, you do this a lot. It's nice to see you.

[B]

I try to avoid it.

[A]

Try to avoid it. Well, listen, you always seem like an actor who's incredibly thoughtful and discerning about the roles that she takes. What was it about the Madison that drew you? Did you just look at the script and say, this is it for me?

[B]

Actually, I committed. There was no script.

[A]

They just gave you the name the Madison and you had to guess. So is this a Taylor Sheridan joint? Is it one of those?

[B]

Yeah, Taylor Sheridan. And he asked, he said he had an idea and he wanted to meet me, but I had to go to Texas to his ranch, which was beautiful. Imagine.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

Met some lovely people there and spent a few hours and he talked me through in broad strokes the concept of it. And I left.

[A]

And did you know anything at that point? Like, did you feel like you got the idea?

[B]

Yeah, but it was pretty basic, you know, and I said, great, so I'd love to read something. And he said, no.

[A]

So you had to commit. Just like leap of faith here.

[B]

I want to know who the actress is and then I write to that actress and I get it. That's a compliment. I said, but, you know, I like to read something and then commit. And anyway, we went back and forth for a couple of weeks and then I realized that was not a battle I was going to win.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I committed sight unseen. I mean, he has a pretty good track record.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And I liked. It's kind of a fish out of water story. And I play Stacy Clyburn, the matriarch of a wealthy New York family who suffer a tragedy in their lives with fractures of the family and they go to Montana like you did. And that's all I can tell you, because that's what you do.

[A]

I hear you reached out to a Taylor Sheridan, like alumna to get a little the lowdown.

[B]

I did. I thought, I have to find out something about this. And so I knew that Helen Mirren was doing a show with him.

[A]

And I thought the 1923 yes with

[B]

Helen Mirren I loved. And I know she doesn't suffer fools. And so she said the scripts are great and best productions I've ever worked on and I'm having a blast. So I thought that's no better recommendation right there.

[A]

Also, this is another good one. I would take the job if I knew this, that one of my co stars was gonna be Kurt Russell. And you two have worked together before. Here you are in Tequila sunrise back in 88, baby. I'm a huge fan, baby. Just Babyface. Was it nice to be reunited?

[B]

It really was. And we were shooting and still hadn't cast Preston, and they were talking about various people and they were like, yeah, okay. Yeah, I guess it could work. And then Kurt's name came up and it was. That was it. It was. It has to be Kurt. But then he had a scheduling problem and he was in and he was out. And he was in and he was out. But I decided he was in and because I had to, I just internally just. Yeah. And Kurt has a big personality.

[A]

Yeah, he does. We just had him on.

[B]

He was just. Oh, did you? And he's so. I don't know. He's just so joyful. And he comes in and he just takes command and you feel safe with him.

[A]

He's got those damn dimples.

[B]

Those dimples. I know.

[A]

Come on. He just gets older and somehow it just gets his hair and that hair.

[B]

What about the hair?

[A]

His hair's amazing.

[B]

It's crazy. It's crazy.

[A]

There's gotta be extensions, right?

[B]

I think, Castle. Something's going on there.

[A]

Exactly. That's a trick. Chia Pet up there. We have to take a quick break. We're right back with more Michelle Pfeiffer, everybody. Hey, everybody. We're back with the star of the Madison Michelle Pfeiffer Now. Okay, so as you say, your character goes off to the Montana wilderness. Do you enjoy because you shot in the Montana wilderness, right?

[B]

We shot in the Montana.

[A]

Montana. Played Montana in this.

[B]

And Montana is the star of the show.

[A]

Okay. Do you enjoy the Montana wilderness?

[B]

And it was majestic.

[A]

Are you outdoorsy? I'm sure your character's outdoors.

[B]

I can be.

[A]

Ok.

[B]

I can be. I don't. I'm kind of a city mouse.

[A]

Yeah. It's so beautiful, though. You must have loved being there. I loved it.

[B]

And I have to say, you know, leaving at. Leaving when the sun hasn't come up, but comes up on your way to work and going home as the sun is setting. The most beautiful skies I've ever seen. And they call it big sky for a reason. So, yeah, we built. We were out in the middle of nowhere and they built our cabin there and we were kind of roughing it.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Day, every day.

[A]

I want to know about this co star right here. I want to know about this coaster.

[B]

That is a wolf.

[A]

Is that a proper wolf?

[B]

That is a proper wolf. They have a tiny bit of dog mixed in with them. Otherwise they're not trainable.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And he was beautiful and sweet and soulful.

[A]

That's what you put in your mouth right up there.

[B]

I know.

[A]

That is so brave.

[B]

I know.

[A]

For a city mouse.

[B]

I have a death wish.

[A]

And do you have many scenes with a wolf?

[B]

No, just one.

[A]

Just one.

[B]

Yeah. He said an interesting thing to me, though. As I was getting out of the car to come to the set to shoot the scene, one of the production assistants came up and said, are you wearing any leather? And I was. I was wearing a suede jacket. And they said, mmm, okay. Because. And I thought, oh, God, it's going to attack me. It's a good thing. They asked me and they said, no, no, no, no, you're safe. But it will make him very sad.

[A]

But wolves are carnivorous, so it's okay for him to kill a cow, but not you?

[B]

Yes. I don't know. Maybe a dead animal that you haven't eaten makes them sad. I don't know.

[A]

Oh, wow. So did you take off the suede jacket?

[B]

No, but there was something I wasn't able to do.

[A]

So you made a wolf sad on purpose?

[B]

Oh, oh, I know. I wasn't able to get really close. So that picture was taken after the scene and I stripped my jacket off and went over and kissed the wolf.

[A]

Well, you also are in the fragrance business. I've always wanted to get my own fragrance. Is that a hard process?

[B]

It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, it continues to be. When my kids were young, I started reading labels and looking at ingredients and anyway, one thing led to another and I discovered that this is it. Yeah. So it's a fragrance company.

[A]

It's called Henry Rose.

[B]

Henry Rose. Named after my kids.

[A]

Oh, Henry Ann Rose.

[B]

Because they were the inspiration. And it's.

[A]

Does it smell like your children?

[B]

It's the safest

[A]

because I wouldn't want things that smelled like my children. You know, kids don't smell that good

[B]

sometimes after the beans. I think I'm. Would you like to try it?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Okay. Ready?

[A]

Smell. Oh, my gosh. I gotta. I gotta. I gotta rush home to my wife. Thank you very much.

[B]

And that's for you.

[A]

This is for me?

[B]

Yes, for your wife.

[A]

So much better. Thank you so much.

[B]

You're.

[A]

So lovely to meet you. Michelle Pfeiffer. The Madison premieres this Saturday on Paramount. Plus it's Michelle Pfeiffer. Thank you for listening to the Late Show Pod show with Stephen Colbert. Just one more thing. If you want to see more of me, come to the late show, you YouTube channel for more clips and exclusives.

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