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Lauren LaRosa
I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody.
Jason Weaver
You know, she don't lie about that, right?
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Lauren LaRosa
Hey y', all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Going right back into another conversation that is going to shake the room. This is part two of my interview with Jason Weaver where we get into all things the shy. If you guys didn't know, the shy is on its final season, Season eight. There's twists, there's turns, there's a lot of the drama, but we get into all of the behind the scenes conversation in the meaning with Jason Weaver. Let's get into it. So let's, let's get into, you know, just some things here with you because I started this by mentioning like, you know, a few ways that people may know you, some stories that we've heard throughout your career, but you've been in this business for a very, very long time. What age actually start anything entertainment related, even if it was something we don't know about?
Jason Weaver
I, I actually started in my hometown of Chicago back when I was like 5 years old. And you know, I, I initially started off doing print ads and commercials in the Chicago, in the Chicagoland area back in the like late 70s and the 80s. A lot of the major jingle campaigns that people would hear on national commercials were all created more or less in Chicago. And the talent that that was utilized for these spots was mostly black talent. Black musicians, black singers, black vocalists, I should say, and black actors, you know what I'm saying? And personalities that could be featured in these ads. And so that's the world that I come from. My mother, Marilyn Heywood, also professionally known as Kitty Haywood in, in that circle in Chicago, you know, when I expressed an interest in wanting to pursue acting and get in the entertainment industry, my mother had already had a long successful track record as a jingle singer in Chicago for many years. So, you know, she was able to help usher me into the business in a way where, you know, I was able to carefully navigate my way through, you know, of course, learning and understanding the business as I went along as well. And as I matured and evolved as an artist and a creative. And so, no, it's been a. It's been a long journey, but it's been a blessed one. You know, I'm so grateful that I still have the opportunity, Even now at 46 years old, you know, to be working and. And especially to be on a great show like Deshai. No, I. I just give all glory and thanks to God because there's not a lot of people, you know, in our industry that have been able to kind of transcend from, you know, generation and generation and for, yes, you know, a number of years like that. So I. I do recognize how extraordinary the journey has been so far as well.
Lauren LaRosa
Let's talk a little bit about Chicago, because I know the Shy is set in Chicago, and I think you guys do a really good job of showing the backdrop and, like, the color and the warmth of Chicago. But before we get to this. You're welcome. Before we get to the shot, I want to talk about, you know, we. We always have conversations about, like, 90s sitcoms and those sitcoms that, like, we grew up with. So many of them were based in Chicago. And a lot of people, I think when we talk about. And correct me on anything I'm wrong on. But family matters, right?
Jason Weaver
Family matters.
Lauren LaRosa
Steve Harvey show was Steve Harvey Chicago.
Jason Weaver
I think it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
So from what I. So from what I can. What I have here in my research, but, you know, sometimes the sitcom starts. Steve Harvey, 1970s funk star who took a job teaching music at a Chicago high school.
Jason Weaver
That's right.
Lauren LaRosa
Keenan and Kale, Malcolm and Eddie, between brothers.
Jason Weaver
Wow. You put me onto something. Because the reason why I thought about
Lauren LaRosa
that is because when you said the jingles thing, I'm like, what show do I remember where somebody was trying to do jingles? That was a Jamie Foxx show. But that was a Jamie Foxx show. Yeah, but it wasn't. It wasn't set in Chicago, but it made me think. But it feels like some of the other shows that I watch, like the Steve Harvey show and stuff like that. So do you remember growing up in that time and, you know, the way that Chicago, or just people in the industry that your mom was working with, how they talked about their black stars and their black talent and what stories are being told on tv, and I wonder if that had any influences in the roles and the jobs that you went on and then later take.
Jason Weaver
That's a great question. No. You know, back then, when I was first entering into the business, Even if shows were technically like based in Chicago or the storyline was based in Chicago, those sitcoms or those stories didn't really have a tendency to lean more towards the cultural aspect of what Chicago life was, especially the black experience in Chicago. You know, Chicago is a very proud city, has a long and beautiful history. It was founded by a black man, Jean Baptiste DuSable, who was a Haitian black man who came through New Orleans, up the Mississippi river as a fur trader and settled in Chicago.
Lauren LaRosa
And I did not know he settled in. I didn't know that about him. We both learned some Chicago stuff today, huh?
Jason Weaver
Absolutely. No, the Chicago was founded by a Haitian man. Jean Baptiste was point dusable. I should, I should add we even have a, a black history museum in, in the middle of south side of Chicago called the DuSable Museum to celebrate him and to celebrate much of the notable and powerful black history that's come out of Chicago. I think what, what the shy has been able to successfully do and why I'm so proud to be a part of it is because I think this has been like the first time that. No, I take that back because when I did Brewster Place with Oprah Winfrey, which was a short lived hour long show that was on ABC years ago, that was set in Chicago, but that was set in like 1960s Chicago, so different kind of era, but the chi. For the first time for me as a proud Chicagoan and as an actor coming from the city, this is the first time I've really been given an opportunity to, to kind of share those stories that I'm familiar with, you know, like the, the, the family dynamics and the complexity of, of, of that whole thing, you know, telling a story about community, particularly the south side of Chicago, which I'm very familiar with and from, even when it comes down to the faith aspect and growing up in the church, you know, you saw like the character Papa on our show and his father being a pastor and know I know about that. With growing up in the church, I'm coming from Trinity and, and also at times attending as a guest Lena's home church, Christ Universal Temple, you know, the cookouts and all of that stuff, all of those things. Now as, as an, as an actor hailing from the city, I've been able to do and, and I'm very proud to do it. I, I think that one of my main goals as an actor coming from the city is also than to focus more on the authenticity side of it, like what we actually say in the street, how we talk, our vernacular, the way that we express ourselves, our body language. Because, you know, I think what a lot of people outside of our community are coming to, the understanding now is that black people are not a monolith in a sense, especially African Americans, you know, New Yorkers. Black New Yorkers have a way of expressing themselves. Black people from Los Angeles, Louisiana. Whatever. So, you know, Chicago is, is Delaware too.
Lauren LaRosa
I don't know if you ever been there.
Jason Weaver
I've never been to Delaware. I've heard good things about it, but I've never been. But I'm sure you gotta say you
Lauren LaRosa
heard good things about it. You don't gotta be nice. It's okay.
Jason Weaver
It's okay.
Lauren LaRosa
I was being funny. I knew you ain't probably never even like Delaware. Like. Okay.
Jason Weaver
But yeah, I didn't know that we was there. I know Joe Biden did, but I didn't know he was there.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes.
Jason Weaver
Nah.
Lauren LaRosa
But.
Jason Weaver
But now we, we've been able to, you know, kind of explore and, and, and display. So, yeah, I'm very proud of it. Absolutely.
Wheezy WTF Host
This is weezy. WTF from Decisions, decisions. You know, a lot of us grew up not fully trusting the healthcare system. And honestly, the system has given us plenty of reasons to feel that way. But now it's time for us to take control of the conversation, to take control of our sexual health, Learn the facts, ask questions, and advocate for ourselves. That's how we start changing the story. So let's talk. We like to think HIV is something that affects other people, but it is hitting our own community hard. Black women make up about 13% of women in the US but account for nearly half of all new HIV diagnosis around women. And being proactive doesn't mean you just don't trust your partner. It just means you trust yourself enough to stay in control. So know your options, ask questions, and protect your peace and your body. That's real power. Because protecting yourself isn't embarrassing. It's responsible. Sex is normal. Protecting yourself should be normal too. Actually, it's kind of badass. Taking control of your sexual health is grown woman energy. Sponsored by Care for the Culture from Gilead Sciences.
Lauren LaRosa
Hey, y', all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. From the latest with Lauren LaRosa. And it is crazy to think that the first phone call happened over 150 years ago. Like, really sit with that. 150 years and now it's springtime, the weather is getting nice, everybody's outside, and it kind of makes you think, who haven't you seen in a while? That friend or that family member that you keep saying, yo, we gotta catch up. Maybe it's time to stop saying it and actually make the call. Plan a walk, a picnic, a brunch. Something simple just to reconnect. And you know, through all these years and all these calls, AT&T has been there connecting people in meaningful ways. This is more than just a story of technology and innovation. It's really a story of human connection. So as we celebrate 150 years of connection, take a moment today to reach out to someone that you care about. You never know how much that one call can really mean. Connecting Changes Everything AT AND T connecting
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Kal Penn
hey everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay, the Audible and Iheart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
Ray Porter
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that. That deeply, emotionally affected me, and I left it on the mic. That's great, because it served the story. People will say, like, oh, my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
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Lauren LaRosa
So you talk a bit about, you know, just being from Chicago and the authenticity of the show and all the things I think a common question I hear the casket ask are like, you know, how do you keep it authentic? And, you know, stuff like that. But what are some of the, like, responsibilities that you feel as a person that, you know, I got a chance to talk to the younger cast, Right. And I know a lot of them are from Chicago, but you being older, seeing the changing of times, of how black television goes from something like a Steve Harvey show to, you know, what we do or don't have now, and you're from Chicago, it's like a double whammy there. It's like you understand the importance of a show like the Shy, but you also are from Chicago and understand the importance of that as well, too. So what you. What are you dealing with when you're walking on set day to day because of that?
Jason Weaver
Oh, man, that's another great question. I. I think that one of the. The. The things I'm most proud of with our show and being in Chicago is that, you know, we explore the elements of violence in street life. Yeah. Which is a reality in Chicago, and everybody knows that. That seems to be amplified more in mainstream media than anything when people are referencing Chicago. But one of the things that I'm really, really proud about is that we are showing the beauty of the community. We are showing the solidarity and the unity that does exist in the community, you know. Yeah. The south side and west side and some of the more underserved communities in Chicago and the Chicagoland, surrounding Chicagoland area. Yeah. Are plagued with violence in certain ways. But, you know, there's also communities there with heart. Like the community of Inglewood has heart in history. The community of Woodlawn, Park, Manor, Chatham, you know, I mean, there's so many communities there that are comprised of black and brown people where, you know, those stories have never been told. They've never been acknowledged, and they haven't been told in a. In a beautiful way, too, the way that they're depicted visually. You know, I think Lena and the directors and the Producers do an amazing job of actually presenting the south side as a thriving, beautiful and colorful community. You know, even when the show is like, set in the wintertime, the things that are shot interior, they feel very warm. The homes feel welcoming. You know, the conversations within the home feel relatable, even if you're not from the south side of Chicago. So that's one of the many things that makes me very proud to. To be associated with the show and represent on behalf of it as well.
Lauren LaRosa
So your character. First, I have a question. Last year, or maybe even been earlier this year, I can pull up. Let me see what the date on that was. I have to pull it back up, but I saw it was like one of the trades, obviously, like deadline of Variety. They announced that you and what's her name, Hannah hall, were pick. Were now going to be series regulars. But you had been a regular on the show already.
Jason Weaver
Well, that's. That's what a lot of people. That's what a lot of people had assumed. I was always technically. Since I first came on the show on season four, I was always technically or contractually referred to as a recurring character. What. What ended up happening was is that, I think, you know, because with the shy, everything is kind of unpredictable. And I think Lena plays a lot on synergy and connection and flow and authenticity in her ability to tell a story. And I just think over time, the type of character shot is or was and how his story was so relatable to a lot of people, but also because he was so layered as a character and nuanced, you know, as a character, I think it just made for interesting stories to be built around him, and the audience responded well to that. And so over time, they just kind of kept me on.
Lauren LaRosa
Right.
Jason Weaver
And, you know, I. I think when season eight finally came around and they realized that that character in particular contributes so much to the overall story arc and storyline of the show, that's when they decided to, you know, promote me, the series regular, which I'm. I'm very grateful for. I'm very grateful that I got the opportunity to be recognized in that regard in the last season. But even prior to that, prior to becoming a series regular, you know, I was still very honored and proud to be a part of the show. And, you know, anything that was required of me, whether it was heavy lifting or just playing more of a supportive role, you know, I was. I was always enthusiastic, you know, to meet the challenge, because, again, you know, for me, it's about telling a great story and it's about, you know, representing something that, you know, that I believe in and that I'm proud of. So, you know, because I'm the regular
Lauren LaRosa
folk watching, I'm like, hold on now. I mean, did that because I wouldn't. The reason why I brought that up, because I was like, I know that the Shy has, like, so many twists and turns in the storyline, so I wonder if you on the talent side were ever like, okay, I know I'm here, and I know I'm a part of story, story, but is this something that happens just in case it'd be like, no.
Jason Weaver
Bang, bang. I mean, that. That's exactly what it is. I, I, you, you hit the nail on the head. I mean, you know, Lena has this saying during our table read. She was like, yeah, y', all, you know, knock out these lines, get it right. You know, sell these lines. Because, you know, anything can happen on the shot. Nothing's guaranteed. Nobody's guaranteed. And, and, you know, as an actor, it keeps you on edge because, you know, each and every week, you got to come with it. You know, there's never a relaxed position that you should ever find yourself in as a creative period. But, you know, especially on that show, you were always kind of, well, man, is my character gonna make it next week? Am I gonna get killed or. And I think a lot of that was based on your performance and how the audience reacted to you and their engagement with your character. So, thankfully for me, I think, you know, a lot of people liked genuinely like, Shot and could see that at his core, he was a good guy, and, and they ended up kind of rooting for him. So that gave me, you know, that, that ability to stay around a lot longer.
Lauren LaRosa
I think with Shy, it's like you feel like everybody, Everybody has a Shot in their family or knows a shot, like somebody who just honestly is just, like, trying to do the right thing. But you, you playing the cards you were dealt to a certain extent. But you are you. There's a boundary or a cutoff with you as a human.
Jason Weaver
Yes, yes. No. It's so funny that you would mention that. I have so many. I have so many black men in particular, that range in age, you know, who have dealt with similar circumstances in their personal lives. You know, that, that, that kind of run parallel maybe, to what Shot has experienced even being incarcerated maybe at one point in their lives and trying to re. Enter back into society and be given a second chance. And not a lot of those stories are told from an honest and respectful point of view. You know what I Mean, I think with Shad's character, it really showed in a very authentic way the obstacles that he was being confronted with and that he had to hurdle over. And even the decisions that he made in his mind, whether to sway left or right, whether to stay legit, or whether you go back into the gangster world. Even when we explored those things, they were explored in a very honest and respectful and authentic way, which I think allowed especially a lot of the black men who became later on familiar with our show, find something to connect with, you know what I'm saying, in the show. So that was good. And I was happy that I was able to serve in that regard as an actor and helping to tell that story because, you know, that does impact me. It does matter to me when other brothers come up to me and they. And they share their stories with me and how through, you know, watching the show in some kind of way, it maybe gave them, you know, some additional insight or maybe gave them, you know, some more hope, you know, and knowing that there. There's a silver lining, that there's light at the end of the tunnel, even for them. So I'm glad that I was able to serve in that regard.
Lauren LaRosa
I hear a lot of the cast members, you guys tell those type of stories where people are, like, really relating to the characters. Do you remember a time that was, like, super, like, touching? Like, just. You have a lot have had a long career, but just from the shine, just with shot a time where someone's come up to you in the conversation or the. The specific topic that they've talked about has been like, man, like, I. I'm doing that. Like, you know what I mean?
Jason Weaver
Yeah, no, I've. I've had. I had a brother stop me because I'm a Cubs fan, and I. When I'm at home, I frequent this restaurant called Harry Carries, and it's like a Chicago sports memorabilia type of restaurant, sports theme restaurant based on the legendary Harry Carey. And as I was walking into the restaurant, there was a young brother who approached me, and he was taking donations for something that they were doing in their neighborhood. I forgot what neighborhood. He's from out south. But, you know, he was just taking donations for whatever it was that they was doing. So I donated a couple dollars, and. And he and I just struck up a conversation. And, you know, towards the latter end of the conversation, as we were getting ready to part ways, he said, hey, man, I just want to let you know, like, you know, I know who you are. You know, I respect your work. And, man, thank you, man, for telling. Telling real stories, for helping to tell real stories, like, related to us, man. Like, you know, I just came home too. You know, I've had my challenges, and I felt like sometimes I'm just kind of on my own island. And with that show, what that character showed me is that I'm really not alone. There's a lot of brothers like me out here that are really just trying to make it, you know, but just have had to deal with the bs, man, and like, you know, the circumstances and the cars that they were dealt. He said, well, man, I just want to let you know those stories matter in the way that you portray it, and you do it so proudly as a Chicagoan, that means a lot to me, man. So God bless you. You know, I'm saying, keep doing your thing. And that meant a lot to me, you know, especially coming from a young brother coming from the city, because, you know, so many guys from the city, especially the young ones, have gone through so much where they're hardened and it's hard for them to be able to be vulnerable like that and express themselves and share, you know, some of the more intimate moments of their lives that have made them feel uncertain or where they question their future. And, you know, for that young man to take time, even while he outside hustling, trying to do his thing, to let me know that he sees me as I'm seeing him. It's those. It's those kind of interactions that, you know, make it even more. Even more rewarding, you know, past a paycheck that you can earn from it, you know, pass any kind of surface level recognition that you can receive. It's those kind of conversations on the street, you know, with the real guys, and I'm representing that that makes me very proud. And I'm thankful, you know, to the Lord, that I'm used as a vessel in some kind of way, you know, to be able to provide that sense of hope and that encouragement to guys or people in general who can relate to that kind of care.
Wheezy WTF Host
This is weezy. WTF from Decisions, Decisions. You know, a lot of us grew up not fully trusting the healthcare system. And honestly, the system has given us plenty of reasons to feel that way. But now it's time for us to take control of the conversation, to take control of our sexual health, learn the facts, ask questions, and advocate for ourselves. That's how we start changing the story. So let's talk. We like to think HIV is something that affects other people, but it is hitting our own community hard. Black Women make up about 13% of women in the US but account for nearly half of all new HIV diagnoses around women. And being proactive doesn't mean you just don't trust your partner. It just means you trust yourself enough to stay in control. So know your options, ask questions, and protect your peace and your body. That's real power. Because protecting yourself isn't embarrassing, it's responsible. Sex is normal. Protecting yourself should be normal too. Actually, it's kind of badass. Taking control of your sexual health is Grown Woman Energy sponsored by Care for the Culture from Gilead Sciences.
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Kal Penn
hey everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay, the Audible and I Heart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
Ray Porter
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
Kal Penn
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Lauren LaRosa
You know, I think about, like, all of the characters that Lena Waithe has either developed in front of us where, like, the shy was the first time I met them, or these are characters that I've known and love and grew up with, and now she reinvents them on the shy. And just how no matter how big the celebrity of a person is, like, you guys are all super approachable. Like, we've been watching you in various different ways for a very long time. But, like, I'm listening to you. Like, oh, I just am, you know, out in the community, headed to my favorite spot in Chicago. And I know people seeing you in the community also means something too. Like, they really feel connected to the character. Because, like, no, he's here. He. He really is boots on the ground. He understand what's going on.
Jason Weaver
Oh, yeah, no, they can. I mean, that's the thing with me. I. I've always been one of those people. I've always viewed myself as an artist in. In order to be able to tell the story of people, you have to be amongst the people. You have to be able to relate to and understand what people go through in their everyday lives. And you can't do that behind the iron fence and you can't do that behind, you know, a superficial point of view of all. I got money and, you know, I got a little bit of fame and recognition and, and then coming from Chicago too, you just can't be that way. Like you, you can't be from there and be one of those kind of people that isn't approachable. You know, it's a blue collar town and you know, everybody works hard to put food on the table for their family. So what makes you so different? Just because you on tv, you know what I mean? So, you know, with me, I also, I also recognize it's important for the youth, for the younger generation to see me, to see me in the neighborhood, to see me present and engaging with them so that they know, like it's tangible or, or it's within reach, you know what I'm saying? And you can accomplish and do the same thing too. Like any time when I'm home, people can see me on 75th at Liam's barbecue, you know what I'm saying? At any time people can see me, you know, out south, like in Max.
Lauren LaRosa
So you be at the Real Smokies?
Jason Weaver
Oh yeah, I'll be at the Real Smokies. Like no Chicago sees me and then I'm involved with the community. I serve on the advisory board for a non profit that's situated in, on the south side in Woodlawn called hello Baby. And hello Baby is basically a center or in a safe space for young families, particularly young mothers and young fathers, to be able to have a. Build a stronger bond and rapport with their child. Because in most underserved communities, especially on the south side of Chicago, they're multi generational homes that really don't allow young parents to be able to establish an even stronger bond and connection with their young children because there'd be so many disciplinarians and so many different energies in the household. But what hello Baby does is it provides a safe haven right there in the middle of the south side in the community for young parents and for kids to come together and just play and to learn. We do giveaways like with diapers and you know, hygiene products and things like that. You know, things everyday essentials that people need. You know, we give those and donate those to the community. And so it, you know, it even goes past representing it on screen. As an actor, I'm just a firm believer that also, while representing in that regard, I think it's also Important to give back to the community that you're actually portraying or that you're trying to shed light on as well.
Lauren LaRosa
Do you think. Okay, first question. Do you think that. Not even just Chicago, in any underserved community. Right. Like, Lena Wave does an amazing job. And I'm gonna keep saying this because if I don't know who doesn't watch the shot at this point, but if you don't watch the shy, you should. And if you do watch the shy, like, I want people to say this more. She does such a good job at painting the Chicago warm. I remember my first time going to Chicago, like, it was maybe four or five months ago.
Jason Weaver
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
And I felt very ignorant because when I was there, what I. Even after watching the shy, because I felt like, okay, that's. And I think most people watching this will think or who've watched it may think this. Who've never been there. When you watch something like this shy, you feel like if you're not local, if you're not from there, you're not gonna never find that. Like, you go to this place, but you might not find that community for real because you don't know the people there. So it's either you're on, like, the touristy outskirts, or if you go into the part where you see your people, you. Now you gotta get. Now we. Now we're thinking about everything we hear in the news when it comes to Chicago, Right?
Jason Weaver
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
I went there, though, and I saw. Oh, my God. I felt like I was in Atlanta. Like, I went to the Soho House, and I was, like. The first thing I said was, it's so many black people in here. The only place I've ever seen so many black people spend money like that was in Atlanta. It was like wealth and like, luxury. Do you think that even with shows like the shy that underserved in communities like Chicago get talked about the way that they do, will ever get the justification they deserve? Even with shows like this, do you think that that will actually ever happen? Like, would it be eradicated through these, you know, shows and movies? Or will there always be that stigma that you just got to go see it?
Jason Weaver
Oh, no, no, no, man. Yet another great question. I love, love these questions.
Lauren LaRosa
This is my job, Jason. You know, I'll be doing little things.
Jason Weaver
You.
Lauren LaRosa
You.
Jason Weaver
That. Like what I said, I'm a fan. I. I watch you on. On the show, so I. I already know you gonna come with it. But no, I. That's a great question. I think what. What the shy has done, and I Always say this. I think it's open up Pandora's box, in a sense. Well, no, that's the wrong thing. I think what is done is it just opened up the floodgates to where more of these kind of stories can be told. I think for so long, black storytellers have been reluctant to go deeper into the things that really affect our community. Multi generational families, mental health, LGBTQ issues, you know, dealing with incarceration, reentry into society, but having a real conversation about it. Men's healing circles, sisters healing circles. We have helped, I think, introduce the conversation to where we can have a more broader conversation and to be able to tell more complex and diverse stories, even, particularly when it comes to the city of Chicago, because, yes, you do have the south side in the west side communities of Chicago, but you also have the black families that live in the suburbs, the outlying suburbs of Chicago, in the overall Chicagoland area, whether they live in Naperville or whether they live in communities like where I grew up in South Holland, south suburbs. And there's so many. As far as the black experience, when talking about Chicago and the Chicagoland area, there's so many different stories to tell, so many more interesting stories to tell. And I do believe that the SHY has helped to just usher in that new era of writing and storytelling, particularly with the black experience in Chicago and just hopefully for the black experience just in America in general. Like, you know, I think. I think some of the things that we explored and that we touched on in the shy, although it made some audience members uncomfortable, I think it was necessary because what. It. What it.
Lauren LaRosa
What was the most necessary thing, you think that made people uncomfortable, but was very necessary.
Jason Weaver
I'll be honest. I think a lot of the things that we touched on LGBTQ related, particularly black men's perspective with it, you know, with. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Lauren LaRosa
You and Trigg's character, Luke James character, or Vic in the show are like best friends, but you're a straight male. And I'm not for sure how Vic or Trick identifies in the show specifically, but I know that he is dating a trans woman.
Jason Weaver
Yeah. Transgender woman. Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So. And we get to see that relationship play out on screen.
Jason Weaver
Yes.
Lauren LaRosa
And that's a big. You guys almost act like it's not happening, even though we're watching it in real time. Talk a bit about just, you know, character development there and kind of, you know, feeling what you. Why you think that that's so necessary?
Jason Weaver
No, I thought, you know, what was so interesting about that was the way that we explored with those two characters, that dynamic. You had one, my character, who was staunch against that, like, for him, anything related to lgbtq, especially his best friend, and he dating a transgender woman. Oh, I'm just not. That ain't it. And. And there was conflict in the very beginning in season four. And then over time, as they began to connect more as brothers and. And be there more for one another as brothers, shy began to realize that, man, that don't even matter. I just want my brother to be happy. It's so. It's so much that we go through out here in the real world anyhow, as black men. The last thing I want to do is lean on my brother like that and make him feel even worse for just being who he is, simply just being who he is and what he likes and how he chooses to love and what that did. Because I remember when in kudos to Luke James for being the extraordinary artist that he was, to be able to dive into that as an actor and to be able to depict that and help tell that story. You know, I think because I've been approached in the street by other black men again, when we first explore that storyline, I have brothers coming to me like, yo, hey, man, I ain't gonna lie to you. Like, you know, I kind of stopped watching the shy a little bit, you know, because it just felt like, you know, proud of your character coming on. They was like, forcing the, you know, the gay stuff on me, man. And I wasn't really, like, feeling that. You know what I'm saying? I'd be like, okay, I hear you. Well, man, when your character came on, you know, because I saw you was on the show, I want to tap back in, see what you was gonna do on there. And, man, when I saw your character in, like, Trig going through their thing, he said, man, if it, you know, it helped me to come to grips with my relationship with my brother, man, because my, you know, my brother's either gay or my brother, you know, has a preference, you know, what he likes and how he chooses to love it. For years, we never talked about it, and I didn't know how to talk to him about it. He didn't know how to talk to me about it. Well, man, we ended up just having a conversation about it because we started talking about the show and how. How Shot and Trig were on there. And so, you know, unbeknownst to us at the time as we were filming it, you know, we knew we were going to. It was going to be A water cooler piece, so to speak, where people were going to talk about it. But I don't think we really had any idea how it was going to serve in a therapeutic way, particularly like with black men, to where we could have more open conversations about it together versus it being a thing where, oh, that's them over there and it's us. It was like.
Lauren LaRosa
No, that's what I meant by like, you guys are like doing like you are acting like you're just moving around your world like it's not even happening. That's what I mean by that is like it almost teaches us, which we should know as simple human beings. But there are a lot of people who do divide, okay, you, them and us. When it's like we all just maneuvering throughout this world every day and everybody's
Jason Weaver
trying their best, you know what I'm saying? And, and especially in the eyes of God, if you want to talk about sin and all of that, man, we all sinners in the eyes of God, man, and we all sin each and every day. And it ain't. And it's just my personal viewpoint and people can, can disagree and they have their opinion about it and, and, and that's fine. And, and I'm not trying to impose upon anyone my beliefs or what I think, but I'm just the kind of person where I just want to extend and treat everybody with grace and respect. I don't have any contempt or hatred towards anyone. And it's none of my business how you choose to live your life or how you choose to love. It's not my job. That's the Lord's job, you know what I mean? And, and my job or the commandment that's been placed upon me as my Lord and savior sending into heaven, we just love one another and that's all I try to do every day. Now. I ain't perfect, you know, I definitely have my issues like everyone else as well. And you know, there are different things that I can do to improve as a human being, but I do just try to keep it at the forefront of my mind every day to just treat people how I want to be treated and trying to love from that frequency and you know, I, if more people would embrace that, man, it would make the world in an even better place. But you know, in the meantime, those of us who, who may embrace that more, we also have a duty to try to share that with others and, and try to help them see a different perspective as well. And, and that's what I try to do. Through my art. So you know, with shot that was it for me.
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Kal Penn
hey everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I am sitting down with Ray Port Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
Ray Porter
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point. Point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me. And I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
Kal Penn
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Lauren LaRosa
I'm just sitting here listening to you talk and I'm thinking about how amazing you and Luke James's chemistry as, as best friends and as brothers on screen is. I'm wondering what it's like off screen and I'm wondering because that becomes a responsibility that can be as positive as it is. It can be kind of dark and heavy. Have there been moments where, as brothers off screen, you guys have had to remind each other of, like, the responsibility of the, of the silver lining of it because of some of the, you know, people who aren't as positive and receiving messages and stuff like that. You know what I mean?
Jason Weaver
Not. Well, I will say this.
Lauren LaRosa
If.
Jason Weaver
If there are any booze from the crowd when it comes to that and helping to tell stories in that regard, we don't even hear it. We're so. We're so immersed in the work and so focused on the work and making sure that the art is displayed beautifully and maintains its initial integrity and how it's supposed to be presented from the writer's perspective, we don't pay attention to that. When Luke and I get together and go over scenes and talk about our characters and we just hanging out, period. It's just, man, we're in a bubble of positivity and in a bubble of creativity to where. Nah, none of that is even discussed. I think the main thing that we discuss is between the both of us is how can we be better? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, okay, last scene that we did, that was good, but now how can we. How can we turn it up a little bit more to be able to provide, you know, a different. A different point of view, you know, with this character. So the. And. And I. I might add, to Luke James is just an absolute pleasure to. To work. He was a pleasure to work alongside with. Consummate professional, true artist, true actor. I. I would forget sometimes that he's a phenomenal vocalist because the way that he just. He commits as an actor, he's just awesome. So it was an honor to work with him.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, I mean, it's been amazing watching you guys on screen. And even in this new season and the last season. Oh, my God. I'm like, why? I feel like my family's about to leave me and move somewhere or something. I'm like, why this gotta be over? And I know every show has its time, but because we don't get a lot of this good feeling all the time, it's like, wow, Hey. I felt the same way when Insecure wasn't going to do any more seasons. Love is when that didn't get more seasons. Like, there are certain things on television where you're just like, why? Yeah.
Jason Weaver
You know, I always. I always say this because I've been in the business for so long and, you know, I've had my fair share of productions that have, like, ended or, you know, all good things must come to an end. Right. And every show serves its purpose for the time that it's supposed to be on there. And yeah. Although it's bittersweet for us too, as the cast and the crew, we all walked away on Rap Day feeling like we served our time and our purpose. And now it's time for a new show or a new creative to come forward and a new story to be told and. And presented in a way also to the audience where we can truly benefit from it. You know, I think that's another thing, too. And, and I say this with all due respect, because I'm still a part of the machine, if you will, and kind of came up under the old Hollywood system. But, you know, I'm encouraged now to see that there are more black independent creatives, filmmakers who are now finding ways to get their story out of there and to be able to monetize it to where they can benefit from it financially as well. And not just given, like, a small piece of the pie, but actually having ownership in the work that they're. That. That they're doing and that they believe in. So, you know, I think we're in a very interesting chapter right now as you're seeing more of us segue or transition out of the traditional Hollywood mold and now transitioning more into, you know, independent filmmaking and hitting our niche or our base audiences and being able to benefit from that. And so I feel encouraged from that. And I think that you're going to see a lot more young black filmmakers who are going to be willing to step out on faith and tell their stories truthfully and authentically and unapologetically and serving the audience who will be able to appreciate that and will be willing to pay for it. So, yeah, you know, I'm grateful for shows like the Shy and many others that came before us. We served our purpose, and now it's time for the new creatives and the new generation to, you know, now carry the mantle moving forward.
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Kal Penn
I'm the host of Irsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary, Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
Ray Porter
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating. So some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah dude, me too.
Kal Penn
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Lauren LaRosa
Thank you so much for joining me. I feel like I've taken up so much. I had so much prepared to talk to you about. We would be here for like five hours, honestly. So we got to do this again sometime now.
Jason Weaver
We'll definitely do it again. Like I said, it's been an absolute pleasure. You know, I, I really and genuinely respect you, the journalists you are, the, the accomplished black woman that you are. I wish you nothing but success moving forward. I definitely look forward to, to linking up with you guys when I eventually come to New York and then even before then if you in Atlanta once we get the show up and running, I have Kristy reach out to you, one of our reps from 85 from the show and we'll make it happen.
Lauren LaRosa
Got you. Okay. I'mma hold you to it.
Jason Weaver
All right. All right.
Lauren LaRosa
All right, y'. All. This has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa, your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news and all of the conversations that shake the room. I, I tell you guys every single episode, y' all could be anywhere with any old body talking about all of the things, but you guys choose to be right here with me and I truly appreciate it. My low riders, I see you in my next episode. This is Sophia Donner from OK Storytime this summer. Find your next obsession on Prime Video.
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Podcast Summary: The Latest with Loren LaRosa Episode: Jason Weaver on The Chi, Brotherhood & Breaking Barriers (May 28, 2026)
This episode features Loren LaRosa in deep conversation with actor and singer Jason Weaver, best known for his roles in classic sitcoms and, most recently, his powerful portrayal of ‘Shad’ on Showtime’s The Chi. As the show heads into its eighth and final season, Jason unpacks his decades-long career, the impact of The Chi on audiences (particularly in Chicago), and the responsibility and privilege of accurately telling Black stories on screen. Together, Loren and Jason discuss the evolution of Black television, authenticity in storytelling, the warmth and complexity of Chicago’s communities, and breaking cultural and generational barriers.
Childhood Beginnings & Chicago Roots
"My mother... ushered me into the business in a way where I was able to carefully navigate my way through... I'm so grateful that I still have the opportunity, even now at 46 years old, to be working." (03:58)
The Chi & Representation
“I think one of my main goals as an actor coming from the city is... to focus more on the authenticity side of it, like what we actually say in the street…” (09:35)
Carrying the Torch for a City & Community
"There's also communities there with heart ... they've never been acknowledged ... Lena and the directors... do an amazing job of actually presenting the South Side as a thriving, beautiful and colorful community." (17:12)
Inside The Chi’s Unpredictable Storytelling
Shad: A Mirror for Many Black Men
"What that character showed me is that I'm really not alone. There's a lot of brothers like me out here that are really just trying to make it, but just have had to deal with ... the cards that they were dealt." (24:12)
"In order to be able to tell the story of people, you have to be amongst the people... You can't do that behind the iron fence... Especially coming from Chicago... you can't be one of those kind of people that isn't approachable." (32:12)
Changing Narratives, Challenging Stereotypes
"I believe that The Chi has helped to just usher in that new era of writing and storytelling... It's helped introduce the conversation so we can tell more complex and diverse stories, particularly when it comes to Chicago." (36:44)
Brotherhood, Tolerance, and Growth On and Off Screen
Jason reflects on the importance of sensitively depicting LGBTQ relationships, particularly between Black men. The on-screen friendship between his character and Luke James’ character Trig provided a new lens and helped spark real-world conversations among Black brothers about acceptance and love.
He shares feedback from male viewers who were hesitant about watching LGBTQ storylines but found understanding and even healing because of the honest portrayal:
"As they began to connect... Shad began to realize, that don't even matter. I just want my brother to be happy... The last thing I want to do is lean on my brother ... and make him feel even worse for being who he is." (39:57)
Jason consistently returns to a message of love, grace, and acceptance, underscoring his personal philosophy:
"I just want to extend and treat everybody with grace and respect... It's none of my business how you choose to live your life or love. That's the Lord’s job..." (43:10)
Bittersweet Farewell and the Future of Black Storytelling
"I'm encouraged now to see that there are more Black independent creatives and filmmakers... finding ways to get their story out there and monetize it... I think we're in a very interesting chapter right now." (51:47)
The mood is both celebratory and thoughtful, mixing laughter and warmth with candid reflection. Both Loren and Jason approach tough subjects head-on—gentrification of narratives, gatekeeping, masculinity, and visibility—always returning to the power of authentic storytelling, community pride, and the healing potential of representation. For anyone interested in Black television, the inner workings of the industry, or Chicago’s real stories, this episode is essential listening.