“Don’t Let Them Trick You Out Your Spot” | Loren Lorosa on Faith, Failure & Finding Your Purpose

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Podcast Summary: “Don’t Let Them Trick You Out Your Spot” | Loren LaRosa on Faith, Failure & Finding Your Purpose

The Latest with Loren LoRosa | The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
Release Date: May 20, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of "The Latest with Loren LoRosa" dives deep into themes of faith, resilience, redefining success, and finding purpose amid the pressure of hustle culture. Loren shares personal stories of failure and growth, candid struggles with burnout, and hard-won lessons from her journey as a media personality and entrepreneur. The episode features a live conversation from the 2026 Women of Wisdom Conference, focusing on mind, body, soul, and the power of embracing your unique path. Loren encourages listeners not to let anyone — or anything — “trick you out your spot,” reinforcing the importance of self-advocacy, community, and ongoing self-check-ins.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Cost of the Grind & The Importance of Rest

• [03:39] - [06:14]

• Loren opens with a personal “behind the scenes of the grind” check-in, stressing that while hustle is often glamorized, it can lead to burnout if not managed with intentional pauses.
• She reflects on teachings from her pastor about the need to replenish oneself before reaching a point of exhaustion — likening relentless grinding to wearing out a screw until it’s useless.

  “When you’re grinding something, you are literally grinding it down to its last little bit of anything...and when you start to get down to that point...you have something to kind of like lift you up, to polish you, maybe even replace the screw when you need it.” (Loren, 05:03)

• Normalizing rest, setting boundaries (“It’s cool if you go MIA from the group chats”), and shedding guilt around these boundaries are essential survival skills in both media and life.

2. Faith and Community as Foundation

• [06:14] - [10:10]

• Loren discusses how her spiritual beliefs provide resilience, but she also encourages listeners to find whatever source fills them up.
• She champions the tribe formed around “Brown Girl Grinding,” explaining how community affirmation changes the way one moves in the world.

3. Mental Health & Self Check-ins

• [12:55] - [16:40]

• The episode is intentionally timed in alignment with Mental Health Awareness Month, extending the ongoing conversation about checking in on oneself.
• Loren shares that while mental health conversations aren’t new to her, actively taking steps to protect her wellness is a practice she’s deliberately building as an adult.

4. The Story and Purpose of Brown Girl Grinding

• [17:24] - [19:18]

• Loren traces the origin of her brand: After being told by a Hollywood agent that she wasn’t marketable as a brown-skinned Black woman, she flipped the script:

  “If me being a brown skinned black woman is the thing you think will run people away from me, I kind of want to lead with that.” (Loren, 18:59)

• Brown Girl Grinding started as a hashtag and blossomed into a production company and empowerment movement, resonating with others who felt unseen.

5. Redefining Success & The Value of ‘Side Quests’

• [21:45] - [25:13]

• Loren emphasizes that her path to media wasn’t linear — she worked as a flight attendant, marketing coordinator, and more, accumulating skills and life experience.

  “The dream, but they don’t talk about the fact that you gotta deal with your real life while you dream too. Like, I been a flight attendant...I was so broke, but I was able to fly anywhere.” (Loren, 23:02)

• Each sidestep contributed to her overall vision, teaching her business structure and perseverance.

6. Don’t Let Anyone “Trick You Out Your Spot”

• [26:20] - [27:42]

• Loren cautions against letting fleeting moments or conflict let you “lose your spot,” whether it’s in your career or your personal growth.

  “I am not going to let one moment define so many years of conversation that will come out of this.” (Loren, 25:13) “I done been down the road of handling things and responding to things the wrong way, right? And I saw what it cost me, and I was like, I can’t...my life can’t afford for anything to cost me what is happening right now.” (Loren, 27:26)

7. Grounded by Family, Accountability, and Honest Self-Talk

• [30:59] - [32:16]

• When asked how she stays grounded, Loren credits honest feedback from family, mentors, and her own accountability as essential factors.

  “I’m just really honest with myself. When things happen, I don’t sit in the things...after that I’m like, all right...What’s the development from this? What am I supposed to learn?” (Loren, 31:49)

8. Transforming Insecurity into Power

• [34:03] - [36:19]

• Loren recounts growing up feeling odd for excelling, wanting to “fit in” by hiding her achievements, and being insecure about her appearance.
• With maturity, she recognizes the strengths her mother cultivated in her — and how former insecurities (like her lips or intellect) became qualities sought after and celebrated.

  “The things I used to get teased about, I’m like, oh, wait, people want that?” (Loren, 36:50)

9. Embracing Your Unique Path

• [37:58] - [39:22]

• Loren encourages listeners to master self-acceptance, monitor self-talk, and embrace their path — mistakes, missteps, and all.

  “You got a purpose and it’s okay if you lean in...The minute you do and you stop running from it...One of the biggest things I’ve learned is to watch how I talk to myself, talk about myself, think about myself, and watch what I allow other people to put into my world.” (Loren, 38:07)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Refusing to Let Barriers Define You:

  “You’re telling me there is no me or no room for me in the market. When you told me to look at the market, there was only one person I could name. That means that there’s a lot of room. People just don’t know that they need it yet.” (18:59)

• On True Success:

  “Success does not always just equal money, especially not right away...Even now, I do things that—it’s not about the money. I’m like, okay, what can I learn from this?” (21:45)

• On Learning from Failure and Feedback:

  “I think listening and being, you know, and learning accountability...I’m just really honest with myself. Like, when things happen, I don’t sit in the things that are happening and be like, oh my God, it’s over...What’s the development from this? What am I supposed to learn?” (31:49)

• Encouragement to Take Up Space:

  “The best thing you can master is figuring out your emotions...understand what your intention is in that situation, and from there, kind of be in control of what you let change and move and maneuver around you, because you’re going to be working really hard to get to these places.” (25:13)

• On Self-Acceptance:

  “I used to tell my grandma, my lips are so big...And now I be like, everybody’s in the gym trying to figure out their life...The things that I used to get teased about, I’m like, oh, wait, people want that?” (36:23 - 36:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:04] Loren’s Perspective on Hustle Culture & Burnout
• [05:00] Pastor’s Analogy – Grinding the Screw
• [12:55] Discussion of Mental Health & Wellness (May is Mental Health Awareness Month)
• [17:24] Origin of Brown Girl Grinding
• [21:45] Loren’s Career “Side Quests” & Lessons from Each
• [25:13] Emotional Mastery & Handling Adversity
• [26:20] The Internet & “Don’t Let Them Trick You Out Your Spot”
• [30:59] How Loren Stays Grounded & Accountable
• [34:03] Dealing With Insecurity & Finding Strength in Identity
• [38:07] Loren’s Closing Reflection: Embracing Purpose & Mastering Self-Talk

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Conclusion & Takeaways

Loren wraps the episode underscoring the value of authenticity, rest, and self-compassion on the road to success. Her journey reminds listeners that purpose is found not in perfection, but in perseverance — and that it’s okay if your path doesn’t look like anyone else’s.

“You got a purpose and it’s okay if you lean in on it and the minute that you do and you stop running from it...I’m learning and understanding why it’s important to master that.” (38:07)

This episode is an empowering reminder: Don’t let anyone, including yourself, trick you out your spot.

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Transcript

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of the conversations that shake the room, baby.

Now I want to check in behind the scenes of the crime. You guys know that that is something that we do first and foremost here at the latest with Lauren, the Rosa.

And it is a time where we

actually sit and we look and we ask ourselves, how are you really doing? Like, seriously, how are you really doing? We literally ask ourselves just like that. Because a lot of times when you're moving, when you're hustling, when you're grinding, when you're achieving, when you're accomplishing, you're not always checking in on yourself. And my pastor, Pastor Jerome Lewis, as he's the greatness church in Delaware, he always says this thing that makes me think about how I speak about brown girl grinding in the work, in the world. Like, people begin to identify with the brand. And I love that because I know for myself, like, when I feel like I belong to something or belong like, you know, a part of something, like a community or a world, I just maneuver differently. Like, you know, I feel like I have a tribe. I feel like I have a community. So I love the fact that people identify brown girl grinding as that if even just hashtagging when they're out and about doing their things, doing what they're good at. I see all of the. The reporter girls and reporter guys and media mavens, you know, media icons both on the come up and already up, that I'm looking at, like, whoa. That, you know, also identify with the brand. And I think it's just fire to see.

But I'm careful about how I talk

about it because my pastor always says that when you're grinding something, you are literally grinding it down to its last little bit of anything. Like grinding. Like, think about a screw, right? And when you are using a, you know, a screw at its best, it's not dull, it's not flimsy. It's not, you know, if you use a screw down to his last little bit, it ain't good for nothing, is that it's not holding anything. It's not securing anything. The foundation just isn't there. And when you think of grinding, that's the way he talks about like, you know, grinding when you're grinding down to the very last. So I always told myself after hearing him talk about that and hearing him talk about how you don't wait until you're like that to replenish or to leaning on God and faith and you know, for me, it's God for what for you, whatever else it may be that replenishes you, you don't wait until then. You keep the nourishment going, good, bad and different so that you don't ever get down to that point. And when you start to get down to that point because things happen, you have something to kind of like lift you up, to polish you, to shoot, maybe even replace the screw when you need it, you get, you know what I. So for me, brown girl grinding, like when I'm talking about it and

we

glamorize the hustle culture and the grind culture, I want to be really honest in saying that there are days where I am worn down now as I start thinking about what I want my life to look like in full, not just at work and not just in the grind. As I think about the health issues and things that I want to prevent for myself that run in my family, I see how stress really plays a big part in where a lot of the people I love have ended up health wise and that grind. And a lot of times we don't have a choice but to do so. That's been, for me, what I've seen my whole life is women and people who don't have a choice but to do so. So they run it up. But if I really want to make sure we flipping it on its head right, like it's brown girl grinding. We all are here. We community with the low riders, we supporting the gang, but really understanding that like there should be reprieve before you get to the point where your foundation is good for nothing. And, you know, I just always think about what my pastor says about that. So when we do these behind the scenes of the grind check ins, that's essentially what this is for, is to be able to check in on us so that we're not at the point where we dulled ourselves out and burnt ourselves out. Because, baby, it'll happen. I'm in a state right now of learning how not to feel guilty about rest. Because, Lord, learning how not to feel guilty about rest and honestly learning how to say no and to protect my energy. And I don't mean protect my energy like not bringing bad people, bad spirits around me. I mean like, literally my energy to, like, get up, go do things. Protecting it, like, not having to show up at everything, being okay with, like, girl, you've been talking all day at work. It's cool if you don't answer the phone. It's cool if you go MIA from the group chats. Like, I was feeling bad and I still do feel bad about this sometimes daily because, you know, like, when you're. I'm a communicator by nature, so there's a lot of people that, like, I'm in communication with. I'm checking in on mom, grandma calling me all day, but I've had to learn to just be like, I can't answer that call right now. Or even with my mom and my grandmom answering and being like, hey, I good. Is it an emergency? Do y' all need anything? Okay, cool. I need this next hour to just sit here in silence because I got to do the podcast today and I'm all talked out right now. I can't even think through my next sentence, so I need the time to myself. So, you know, behind the scenes of the grind, that's. That's one of the things that, like, you know, this week I've been practicing this way before this week, but this week, for some reason, it has been so vital to me getting through this week that I understand a lot clear more clearly how vital it is to me in order to get through this next phase and era in life that God is bringing me to. And a lot of times things happen that way where you have like a. I don't know about y', all, but I'd be hard headed. So I feel like God be dealing with me like I'm the bad kid that he keep getting calls from school about. So he give it to me real harsh sometimes in order for me to like to jolt me and make me feel it. So I'm like, okay, I get it. Moving forward as we go on into the latest. I hope that was good for you guys also as well to think through, you know, just where you are behind the scenes of the grinding, how you check in on yourself as well. Because how you check in on you, I've learned. Doesn't it might not look like how I check in on me. Like, what you need and what I need to fill us up are two completely different things. And that is okay. Figure out your regimen. Sometimes you got to keep it to yourself. I'll say your damn self trying to. I don't cuss on here. Keep it to your dang self and just do it. Just get it done. Just do what you need to do.

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[Lauren LaRosa]

Let's get on into the latest now speaking of rest restoration, taking care of yourself, I want to bring you guys today a conversation that I know is going to shake the room. I was honored to participate in the Women of Wisdom 2026 conference in Patterson, New Jersey. It was brought to the city of Patterson by their community affairs and their police department and I was one of the featured speakers along with first lady Dr. Carrie Bryant and Rotemi who plays on the Stars Power $0.50 power show. But he I mean you guys know Ro Timmy from a ton of different things on screen as well and also a music artist. So you know this event was hosted by Dr. Yvonne Harvey Williams and Griff who's a comedian and he is the co host of the Get Up Morning with Erica Campbell radio show as well too. So got a chance to meet them,

but actually I actually got a chance

to be in conversation with Dr. Yvonne Harvey Williams and our conversation, it was supposed to be about trending topics, but we even get into trending topics. We more so talked just a lot about what we open this episode with, talking about things that restore so the basis of the day and of the conference. We're taking people who are in the entertainment field. So like a rotimi, like a Dr. Carrie Bryant and having a conversation about mind, body, soul and resetting. All of the conversations were separate but but in a whole that's what the conversations echoed. It was about the mind, the body, the soul and how you reset. They had vegan kids shout out to Chef Joe I R M O O R E Sar Moore on Instagram, Delaware State University alumni who was out here doing good food things in the communities that we live in. You know, it'd be like food deserts and people can't get good eats and healthy eats and he's bringing vegan food and healthy food nourishment to the inner city. Patterson into other places as well too. But I have the conversation that we had on the stage. Again, it is just me and Dr. Yvonne Harvey Williams in this conversation, although there were a multitude of speakers throughout the day. So I wanted to Bring that conversation to you guys today. Let's take a listen, tap in. Use this to understand how to best reset yourself and understand, you know, some of the things. Everything might not work out how you want it to work out, but it works out when and how you need it to work out. And that alone is a stress reliever. Mental Health Awareness Month actually takes place every May, so this conversation was so timely, it was right on time. So Mental Health America back in 1949 decided that May made a lot of sense to be the annual month where mental health, wellness, reducing the stigma conversations and any way that you can figure out to provide resources to people in need who need to be able to, you know, reset the mind, body and soul was a great time to highlight it during that month. So throughout the month you'll see a lot of different advocacy from different organizations, nationwide, community events, actionable toolkits and stuff like that being shared online. I know, you know, for me, I. The mental health conversations aren't, I wouldn't say they're new because I, you know, I was raised up in a family where you were allowed to, like, feel and do all those things, but actually taking action on it and expressing that is a bit new as I get older and something that I'm doing to take care of myself so I don't grind myself down to my last care. So let's get on into the conversation.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

I don't get a chance to listen

[Lauren LaRosa]

to a lot of stuff often because

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

my husband and I are on the road a lot. However, when I do hear her, she is always well spoken, she is always well versed, she always understands the assignment and she knows her career and her job and she does it very, very well. Would y' all give her one more

[Lauren LaRosa]

big pat of same round of applause? I appreciate it. Thank you so much.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Welcome to the Women of Wisdom Conference 2026. This is our Dare to Believe conference dealing with the mind, body, soul and Reset. Now, we talked a little bit about your organization and I want them to see the facet of you regarding the Brown Girl Grinding.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Can you talk to them just a

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

little bit about that?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. Okay, so Brown Girl Grinding is a production company on paper, but it's a movement in real life. It started back in 2016. I moved to LA and at the time I moved to LA because I was trying to just get on TV. I was like, I want to act, I want to do whatever I can do. And I met with this agent and you hear the whole stories of I moved to la, I met an agent and everything just happened. So I thought that that was what was going to happen. And when I met with the agent, he was like an older Asian guy and he was like, I have a daughter your age and if she was sitting down with anybody, I would want them to tell her the truth too. And he was like, I love you, love your personality. But he was like, look at daytime tv, even nighttime television. How many black women, especially brown skinned

women, can you name on TV right now?

And the only person I could name at the time was Wendy Williams. And he was like, you're not marketable, like I can't sell you.

Wow.

And he was like, you know, I would love to stay in contact. If you need anything, call me. But I don't know anybody that will book you. And if I can't make money as an agent, it makes no sense to sign you. So he's like, you know, we could do this whole thing called like, it's called fishing where like you work with them but you don't put anything on paper just to see if you can make some money. So he's like, you know, we could do that or whatever. But I remember leaving that meeting and at first I was so sad. And then the business mindset kicked in. I have a marketing degree from Delaware State University. Come on. Marketing degree. And I was like, okay, so you're telling me that there is no me or no room for me in the market. When you told me to look at the market, there was only one person I could name. That means that there's a lot of room. People just don't know that they need it yet.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And I was like, you know, if me bring a brown skinned black woman is the thing that you think will run people away from me. I kind of want to lead with that because I feel like most people won't lead with it because they're thinking that it's not going to get them work. So I just started hashtagging brown girl grinding as I was doing different red carpets in la, just really trying to

get my foot in.

And I started to notice other girls hashtagging it too. And I was blogging and I was telling my story, like I mean real story, like car repo, living on my friend's couch for a long time, like just really being honest about like, why do people tell you how real this can get and how it's really not easy and people just, it just started to resonate. I think people just felt like they needed to, they were going through it too. So I was like, okay, this is a thing. So we started hosting events for people. I turned it into a production company because I was like, you know, if I have a story, I know it's a lot of girls out there like me who have a story, they just don't know how to package it and put it together. So, you know, that's one of my goals, is to be able to be like, the Nike of storytelling for women and girls like me. But. But the tagline is by black women for the world and the around the way girls got something to say. So it's really all about, like, what conversations can we have? How can we have them? You know, how can we be the group chat for people who feel like, you know, I got this story to tell, but, like, how can I get the masses to care? How can I disrupt? But to be honest with you guys, like, it's been a lot of, like, just my personal journey that I've been platforming there. And I think people, you know, they see and they like, okay, me too.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, you know, I can see that. So I get DMs from girls that, you know, follow the brand and are trying to figure things out. I meet people in real life that are like, yo, I'm watching the vlogs, and I appreciate it. So that has kind of been like, you know, people actually like, what your why is. I think I'm still figuring out a lot of it, but I know that it has a lot to do with being able to disrupt for people who feel like, I don't check all the boxes, so I can't make it. I don't check any of the boxes. Honestly, like, I dress how I dress. I talk how I talk. And I always say, like, there's no way that, you know, if you show up prepared and ready, everybody's going to tell you no. And then I just got blessed to get some yeses, and here I am.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Listen, I want to kind of. I want to go back a little bit about your journey. Can you talk? Well, let me ask a question. How many times did you actually change what it was that you were thinking about doing in your life? Did you just, like, wake up one day and say, I'm going to do this and what I'm going to do? How many things did you try before you did it? Like, because I think when people think about success in a vacuum, they always think that success equates to money. Success equates to, I'm going to do this one big thing and be discovered.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that's It.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

How many Lane or how many different things did you do first?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Ooh.

Success does not always just equal money,

especially not right away.

So I never. I knew for a long time, like, my whole. Like, ever since I can remember, I was. I was in seventh grade, specifically, I remember. And I did this America's Next Top Model challenge at my high school.

I mean, my middle school had.

And I remember just being on stage and being like, I don't know what this is, but I like this. And I want to lean in. But I come from, you know, my mom has been an entrepreneur my whole life. Fashion designer. Then she went into real estate. So I was kind of raised kind of unconventionally. Like, my family has that background, too, in entertainment. So I've always known that these things, like, you know, talking to people, storytelling was what I was going to do. Now, the side quests that I've had to go on while I was figuring it out, because is, people talk about the dream, but they don't talk about the fact that you got to deal with your real life while you dreaming, too. Like, I didn't been a flight attendant for Delta. I, you know, had a. I was. I have a marketing degree. So for the first two and a half years out of college, I was running the community relations department. Well, I started as, like, an intern, and then it got to a point where I was, you know, a director coordinator for the community relations department of Barclays. So I was, like, figuring out how to help, you know, communities, specifically the one I'm from in Wilmington, Delaware, with big, you know, money and creating products and financial products to teach us kind of what we needed.

I.

Listen, I've been a camp director for some years, and that kind of exposed me to public speaking. We traveled all around the world doing things. I've had a lot of jobs that people would get into and settle with them as careers. And I always knew within those, I'm like, I'm doing this because, number one, I just. I always wanted to learn business structure. Like, growing up in my house, I knew that my mom did an amazing job of holding us down, but I was like, there's more to this. Like, there's things that if she knew, she would be further, too. So, like, I just want to soak up everything I can, because when I create the Brown girl grinding, I want it to be the biggest it can be. So let me go work with these corporations. Let me go understand these things. But I didn't have a lot of side quests, and a lot of them weren't paying me as crazy as you would think. Like, when I was working for Delta, the flight attendant life is. It ain't for everybody. Them first couple years, when you're not senior, they call it on the line when you're actually out and flying as a flight attendant. When you're not senior on the line, you're barely making any real good money unless you're, like, burning yourself into the ground working. I was trying to also juggle auditioning for television. I was so broke, but I was able to fly anywhere. So I was showing up for every audition I could, every red carpet I could, borrowing money like crazy. My grandmother used to be tired of me borrowing money, like. But I told her, hello, Hello.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Something will change.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Let me tell you something. My grandmother is one of the biggest investors into me, and, I mean, she's getting things back now. That's why I always. When I can show up for them, I show up for them as much as I can. It's amazing because even when my grandmother didn't understand it, she used to tell me, I don't know what you're doing, but I know you're going to be good. So you know what I mean? Here's what I got to give you. But no, success does not always equal money. And even now, I do things that. It's not about the money. I'm like, okay, what can I learn from this?

[Chorus/Group Voice]

This.

[Lauren LaRosa]

How can it further what I'm trying to get to? Or, like, I'm just. You gotta have, like, a deeper meaning to think. Like, me coming out and being in the community is not because, like, I'm just a person who just, you know, woke up one day and was like, this makes sense for my brand. No, I grew up in a community that wrapped their arms around me, and that's why I'm able to do the things that I do. So if I can come in and do that, I want to do it.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Absolutely. And I would tell, like, younger people in the audience, like, a lot of this is probably going over your head right now, but as you start going through. Through, like, what, middle school, high school, and you dealing with certain things, and it feels like the end of the world. The best thing you can master is figuring out your emotions. And. And don't let people tell you. And I don't mean, like, you're not supposed to feel anything. And, like, you know what I mean? Like, I'm so real that nothing, no things hurt your feelings. Things happen. You misinterpret things. People misinterpret you, you know, there's. There's a lot that will go down, but the best thing that you can do is understand what you. Your intention is in that situation, and from there, kind of be in control of what you let change and move and maneuver around you, because you're going to be working really hard to get to these places. And that was always a big thing for me is like, man, I've been through a lot. I am not going to let one moment define so many years of conversation that will come out of this. Like, you know, I don't know if that was, like, a God thing, but it's because you can say it, baby, in real life. Like, yeah, like, I've been through so many things that. That I've allowed here and there to maybe trick me out my spot a little bit.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

And you learn, Paul, listen, the biggest thing that's happening right now because of the culture and the climate where people do not understand conflict resolution, a lot of people are being tricked out of their spots. So it is important. Let's get out a little bit right there. You said that that way. Yeah. Okay.

[Lauren LaRosa]

I mean, yeah, especially, I mean, y' all growing up in social media times, like, I'm talking to my niece, and when she's saying she's 11, when she's saying she wants to go to college, I'm excited and surprised because a lot of kids now, if you figure it out the right way with the Internet, you don't feel like you need to go to college, do all these things right? But the Internet can also be a place where somebody could trick you about that spot real, real quick. And those things in that moment, if it's, oh, my God, like, it. It be just that moment, but it. It will come back. Like, it will and it can. And for me, when everything was happening, that was my biggest thing is like, I just really want to make sure, because I done been down the road of handling things and responding to things the wrong way, right? And I saw what it cost me, and I was like, I can't.

I.

My life can't afford for anything to cost me what is happening right now. And even if it didn't work out the way that it did for me, I looked at it like I was here. I learned people got to meet me. Whatever's gonna come next, that is so above me. God got that.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

You better believe that, baby.

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[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

what keeps you grounded? What is the thing? Because I see a fortified young woman right here. You know what I'm saying? I see someone who's four to five, who is. Who understands and with clarity can deliver who you are, what you are, what your brand is, what you've been through, how you've been through it, and why it is important not to trick that in spot. What is the thing that promised you?

[Lauren LaRosa]

The fact that that's not always true. And I know that like, you know, it's times and it's days where I'm like, oh, girl, no, that wasn't it. Like, you know, and I got people in my life that will be like, ooh, no, girl, that isn't it. Like, from high school mentors that are still in my life to my family, to, you know, friends to even now at like, you know, Charlamagne and envy, they are quick to call you and be like, that was not it. You know what I mean? Like, I think listening and being, you know, and learning accountability, especially as I

get like, I'm like grown up for real now. I'd be like, wow, I'm like adults.

But, you know, I think I'm just really honest with myself. Like, when things happen, I don't sit in the things that are happening and be like, oh my God, it's over. I do that for a little bit. Like, you know, I get in my feelings. But after that I'm like, all right, removing all of that.

How?

Like, what is the. What's the development from this? Like, what am I supposed to learn? It's like, you know, for you, not to you. And you know, and family is a big part of that and just need to take notes.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Hold on.

[Lauren LaRosa]

For you not. So you go ahead. Yeah. I mean, but just understand the thing. I'm sure you've been through things in your life. Right.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

For sure.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Exactly. Where now that you out of it, you're like, oh, okay, cool. So. Because I even can understand that at. When certain things are happening, even if I don't react the best way, in the moment, when I take a step back, I'm always looking for that.

Oh, okay.

So, boom, here's what we should do. Here's how I should. Here's how that person. Here's how I should approach. And I think that keeps you grounded because you're just honest with yourself about the fact that, like, it's not always like that. Right.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Teachable moments. We call them very much teachable. Teachable moments. I'm sure you see all these freckles on my face, right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

My mom has a face full of freckles. Yeah.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

And all like, this stuff. I'm from this city growing up. I've been speaking for probably over 30 years now, traveling the country, doing what I do. This is my home. These are the people that I love. However, there was a lot of. There was a lot. The little girl, Yvonne, experienced a lot of insecurity, but I covered and wrapped that up in, you know what I'm saying? This wall, this defense mechanism. Like, I was the mean girl. Don't look at me. You know what I mean? What you looking at? Or whatever. And then I realized that. That, listen, boom. You right now, as a woman, Yvonne, you did back then, even then, had a lot to lose, right? Talk. Talk a little bit about your insecurity and some of the steps that you had to. What. What did you do, the work that you did. Because, listen, we already know, first and foremost, you fought, like you said, you fought for probably a lot of the positions that you. The rooms that you entered into. You fought. You work hard.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

You earned. Nobody needed. You earned. Talk about just maybe one or two of the things that. That, you know, you perceived back then maybe as an insecurity and how you work through that and what you look at that now for you as the adult, Lauren.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You know, I used to. Because when you from around, like. So I'm from Wilmington, Delaware.

I don't know if anybody's ever been

there, but, like, you know, like, inner city, like, regardless of if you're like the smart kid, the kid that accomplishes, the kid that's trying to figure it out, the bad kid that's always getting the calls from home to school.

Right.

Or whatever, you still growing up where you're growing up.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Right?

[Lauren LaRosa]

Right. So for me, it used to be kind of, like, weird for Me to be. Like, my mom was like, the mom that, like, I was doing everything. I was swimming, piano, dance, this, this, this, and this. And as I got older, I'm like, yo, I just want to be like, my friends is on 22nd Street. I want to go over there, too. Like, I wanna. And I was doing it, but my mom was really quick to come in and grab me up all the time. And I used to be kind of, like, ashamed to be the girl that was like. Like, like, like smart and achieving at things. Like, not that I would hide it, but I just used to be like, why? Like, I used to literally ask my mom, like, why you got us doing all this stuff? Like, my friends just hang outside. Like, why can't I do that? Because I didn't understand that, like, she was trying to mold me into this person that was, like, well rounded and, you know, all these things. And not that even doing all that stuff even equals a well rounded person at times. But I understand now that I'm older, what she was trying to do. And I didn't have a chance to run from it because she wouldn't let me. But there were things that I did that I was just like, all right, I'm taking my power back. Like, I want to be the girl that's around. I want to be outside. I want to hang with the boys that's over here on this block.

I want to. You know what I mean?

And now that I'm older, I'm like, yo, you could not. You could have lost your life, number one, right? Number two, it's like, no matter where you were, people always recognize the girl, the woman that I am now. There are people that have known me since I was, like, 12, 11 years old that will tell y', all, I've always been like that. This. So no matter how much I tried to run from what my mom had already seen and what she was trying to protect, it followed me everywhere anyway, so I couldn't get away from it. But I used to feel so, like, why does my mom always want to put us in stuff? Why am I the one that's always, like, l even being, like, good in school, like, that was like, the joke. It's like, yo, she always doing something right, cuz.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Cuz, you know, know everything.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Everybody was like, I didn't have a

choice in my mom's house.

You wasn't just coming home, like.

Like, she was not having that. I think she needed a break from us, number one. But number two, she just was, you know, she knew where we were growing up, so she was trying to make sure we were straight. But that was something I ran from it.

Honestly.

I was talking to one of the younger girls today who did the fashion show.

I don't know if they're in here,

but I was talking to one of the little girls today. She was talking about how, like, she's, like, a skinnier girl. And I was like, I used to be so insecure about that, too. Like, skinnier girl. I used to complain. I used to tell my grandma, my lips are so big, like, and people would make fun of it. And now I be like, everybody's in the gym trying to figure out their life, and I, like, I don't feel bad about how I look and not to put down anybody that is doing that. But the things that I used to get teased about, I'm like, oh, wait, people want that?

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, people are paying to get their lips done and stuff like that. But I used to feel so bad about the physical look, too. And let me tell y', all, y' all talking about, with social media, you do one wrong, anything like. Like lipstick color, wrong, hair out of place, they be dragging it so bad. But I'm so used to, like, people

be like, how you did with Charlemagne.

I grew up somewhere that was way worse than the jokes he be throwing. So it kind of be like, it's whatever. And you just. You get to a place with yourself where you like. I actually love that about myself.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Absolutely.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Like, I love it. But I mean, those things were probably the only two things. My mom did a really good job of making sure that the world didn't, like, like, beat me and batter me up. Like, she, like, every time I think about it, I'm like, my mom did a really, really good job because I didn't really deal with too much of what I could have dealt with, right? And I didn't even know, but it was because she, you know, she. She was always just there and, like, scooped us up and figured it out.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Well, listen, thank you so much.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank y' all for having me.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

And I appreciate the refined woman that you are sitting here that you have always been. That was always in you, cuz. It's not just on you, baby.

[Lauren LaRosa]

It's in you for period.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Love this.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thank you, my love.

[Interviewer/Host at Women of Wisdom Conference]

Listen, if people be having this time,

[Lauren LaRosa]

tell them some shade going in. She said that. I did not say that.

How y' all feeling after that conversation? I hope that the conversation helps you guys, you know, better understand that, like, you got a purpose and it's okay, if you lean in on into it and the minute that you do and you stop running from it, we talk about, you know, not grinding yourself down and, you know, reset and building up all of these guardrails to make sure you're taking care of yourself. One of the biggest things that I've learned to do in the midst of that is to watch how I talk to myself, talk about myself, think about myself, and watch what I allow other people to put into my world. And I think, you know, in having conversations like this, this, and being able to share it with you guys, I'm learning and I'm understanding why it's important to master that, because I'm still mastering it. I'm not the best at it. Like, I like to be honest about the fact, like, no, I'm not the best at it, but I'm learning why it's important. So hopefully this conversation helped you guys. This episode is like, you know, it's a palette cleanse. We love those. I'm Lauren the Rosa. This has been another episode of the Latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. I'll catch you guys in my next episode.

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[Lauren LaRosa]

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