Reality TV or Real Trauma? Porsha Williams x K. Michelle — Breaking Down the Drama

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Latest with Loren LoRosa

Episode: Reality TV or Real Trauma? Porsha Williams x K. Michelle — Breaking Down the Drama

Date: May 19, 2026
Host: Loren LaRosa, The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

Loren LaRosa dives deep into the latest drama brewing on The Real Housewives of Atlanta, focusing on the fallout between Porsha Williams and K. Michelle. The main theme is the blurred line between reality TV drama and genuine personal trauma—specifically, whether current on-screen tensions are authentic outgrowths of past experiences, or calculated moves for entertainment and storylines. Loren explores recent episodes, key viral moments, public reactions, and the social media “receipts” fueling the buzz.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Porsha Williams’ Status and Impact on RHOA

• Loren highlights Porsha’s significance as both the face of the franchise and a savvy businesswoman.

  • “She is the show. She deserves to be the show. …She’s one of the girls that is really using this to create a business, like a million dollar, multi-million dollar business for herself.” (04:51)

• [03:30] Loren notes the shifting cast dynamics and how nostalgia for the “OG Girls” weighs on current fandom perceptions.

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2. K. Michelle’s Return to Reality TV and Background Trauma

• [06:20] Loren recounts K. Michelle’s previous negative experience on Love & Hip Hop—ostracized, rumors, and public shaming.
• She contextualizes K. Michelle’s openness about being hurt and traumatized by those experiences, especially rumors about body odor that went viral:
  • “She was very vocal about…how that situation and people having a conversation affected her, like, how it hurt her…hurt her feelings, I’m sure, and traumatized her to a bit.” (07:44)

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3. The Oyster Incident: Episode 7 Flashpoint

• [07:01] Porsha (jokingly) inspects oysters and makes a reference to “clean” vaginas, triggering K. Michelle due to her past trauma:

  • Memorable Quote:
    Porsha: “That vagina is clean. This one might be a little sense.” (07:09)
    Loren: “What are you checking for? Does she always smell oysters? I don’t know.” (07:22)

• Loren explains that for viewers aware of K. Michelle’s history, the joke hits differently, fueling speculation that Porsha was subtweeting her co-star rather than just being playful.

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4. K. Michelle Breaks Down: Feeling Unsafe and Unheard

• [12:48] K. Michelle opens up to the group about feeling targeted and emotionally unsafe among the other women:

  • K. Michelle: “I am heartbroken. I watch these women who have dealt with things from gossip try to judge me.” (13:12)
  • “The trauma that was caused by the rumor, it really hasn’t gotten better.” (13:26)
  • “When it get to where it need to get to, I’mma curse all them the out.” (14:07)

• Loren notes that while K. Michelle directs some of her hurt at Drew in the conversation, the wider social media debate links it to Porsha’s comments.

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5. Twitter Feud & The Question of Authenticity

• Off-screen, the drama escalated on Twitter:

  • K. Michelle accuses Porsha of being a coward.
  • Porsha claps back, calling K. Michelle “twitter fingers.”
  • Allegations fly—K. Michelle even claims Porsha slept with one of her exes.

• Loren references a pivotal Carlos King interview with Porsha, where she discusses the miscarriage comment controversy and addresses authenticity:

  • Carlos King: “It seemed to be pretty split whether or not you intentionally meant [the miscarriage comment] to harm her…What do you have to say about that?” (16:46)
  • Porsha Williams: “I think that’s another situation where someone has decided that this is the route they need to take. I think it’s the wrong road…but this is the game she decides to play.” (17:39)

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6. Storylines Versus Genuine Experience

• Loren explores whether K. Michelle is exaggerating drama for screen time or genuinely experiencing trauma triggers.

  • Porsha:
    “I think that when [K. Michelle] looks back at this first season, she’ll probably be like, oh, I probably chose the wrong team, and I probably should have gone about things in a more authentic way.” (19:34)

• Loren breaks down how reality show producers might encourage conflict ("story producers"), further muddying authenticity.

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7. Additional Layer – Previous Episode Shade

• In Episode 6, Kelly throws shade at Porsha about "hot chili cheese Fritos," a coded jab about body odor, which further complicates the scene:

  • “That mother Hot chili cheese Fritos, baby.” — Porsha Williams (24:04)

• Loren points out that indirect shade is common, making true intent difficult to parse.

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8. Porsha’s Perspective: Newcast Members & 'Spicy’ Drama

• [27:00] On Sherri Shepherd's show, Porsha describes the newer cast as “spicy, not thirsty,” but suggests some are “reaching” for drama:

  • “They’re not thirsty. They’re spicy. Cause they’re already established. …But I just think it’s very unfortunate when some of the girls come on the show and they have to kind of search and reach. And she’s always reaching for other reasons.” (27:11, 28:01)

• Loren questions whether Porsha is fueling storylines for the show or genuinely trying to resolve things.

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9. Loren’s Conclusion and Call to Listeners

• Loren summarizes the situation as being up for interpretation—are the stars playing the “reality TV” game for screen time, or are deep wounds being reopened?
• She leaves listeners with food for thought:
  • “Do you feel like all is fair in reality TV and war? Or do you feel like Portia owes K. Michelle a sense of loyalty to a certain extent…because she’s her friend…?” (29:13)

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Porsha Williams: “That vagina is clean. This one might be a little sense.” (07:09)
• K. Michelle: “I am heartbroken. I watch these women who have dealt with things from gossip try to judge me.” (13:12)
• Porsha Williams: “[K. Michelle] has decided this is the route they need to take. I think it’s the wrong road…but this is the game she decides to play.” (17:39)
• Porsha Williams: “If you are in any group…and they don’t have a heart to understand you…it could be for whatever reason…they’re never going to actually say out loud, oh, I understand, because they’re too busy trying to do something else.” (18:56)
• Porsha Williams: “They’re not thirsty, they’re spicy… But I just think it’s very unfortunate when some of the girls come on the show and they have to kind of search and reach.” (27:11, 28:01)

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Key Segments & Timestamps

• Porsha’s role on RHOA: 03:30 – 05:40
• K. Michelle’s backstory and trauma: 06:20 – 07:40
• Oyster incident and body odor rumor context: 07:01 – 09:28
• K. Michelle’s emotional group breakdown: 12:48 – 14:15
• Social media feud and Carlos King interview excerpts: 16:46 – 20:30
• Prior episode’s “Fritos” shade: 24:04
• Porsha on Sherri Shepherd’s show (“spicy” vs. “thirsty”): 27:00 – 28:46
• Loren’s reflection and call for listener feedback: 29:13 – End

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Engaging Takeaways

• This episode unpacks the intricate intersection of reality TV performance and authentic emotional scars.
• Both Porsha Williams and K. Michelle are portrayed as accomplished, complicated women—the former accused of using shade and strategy, the latter grappling with deep-seated wounds inflamed by comments from others.
• Loren masterfully balances empathy, pop culture analysis, and tea, leaving the audience to judge who’s right, who’s performing, and whether “all is fair” in the reality genre.

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For fans and newcomers alike, this episode offers a thorough, nuanced unpacking of one of reality TV’s hottest current storylines—reminding us that sometimes, what’s “real” on reality TV isn’t so clear.

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[Portia Williams]

What are you checking for?

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[Portia Williams]

What are you checking for?

[Lauren LaRosa]

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[Portia Williams]

That vagina is clean. This one might be a little sense

[Lauren LaRosa]

that vagina is clean.

[Portia Williams]

This is odd to me.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What are you checking for? Does she always smell oysters? I don't know. Now, before we get into what the conversation is, I do want to give you guys some background info and some background facts, because if you guys are not familiar, and this is a part that we talked about on Breakfast Club as well, too, K. Michelle, some years ago, there was a big thing. It was a super viral moment, several different moments that were super viral where there were allegations by an ex, someone that she was dating, that there was a body odor, that her vagina had an odor. And she was very clear and, you know, very not backing down at all about coming out and making sure that she cleared up the rumor wherever it spread to. Because, I mean, as a woman, that's just not something you want on your name, a conversation you even want to play with at all. So it was a thing. It happened some years ago, but it was a big thing for her. It was a big conversation. And she was very vocal about, you know, at that time. And even the years following how that situation and people having a conversation affected her, like, how it hurt her, hurt her feelings, I'm sure, and traumatized her to a bit. As we are seeing play out here on Real Housewives of Atlanta now, the girls are all on this cash trip. They're in Texas. They're supporting Cynthia Bailey because Cynthia Bailey is doing, like, a new tequila venture, having this big gala over there in Texas. And during the trip, it's weird because K. Michelle starts off on the strip, and she's having a really good time. And a lot of the conversation, this, you know, in the beginning of the episode production be doing her thing. They know exactly. What they be doing is about the fact that K. Michelle is comfortable and, you know, she feels like she's found, you know, even through all of the mess, the goodness in a lot of the ladies. And these are the women that, like, she watched for some time and this is what she was looking for and joining a franchise. But, boy, does that quickly change once that oyster conversation that we just listened to happens.

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[Lauren LaRosa]

After the oyster conversation happens, K. Michelle then has a discussion about not feeling safe at the table or just within a group. And she's breaking down. Now, as she's breaking down, you have all of the women surrounding her. Portia Williams, Cynthia Bailey, you know all the Girls are there trying to figure out what's wrong and trying to make her feel better. Let's take a listen to that.

[K. Michelle]

Something that they thought that they was going to address with me at dinner.

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Who though?

[Carlos King]

Drew?

[K. Michelle]

Portia and Phaedra.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Not Portia. And she was rubbing your knee and she was a part of the problem. But that's you over there just sitting, looking stupid and not Phaedra trying to fan you. Why her church fan.

[K. Michelle]

He be playing with me and was the first time. Then when I get to cursing, then

[Lauren LaRosa]

okay would be crazy.

[K. Michelle]

I am heartbroken. I watch these women who have dealt with things from gossip try to judge me.

[Portia Williams]

That vagina is clean. I don't know. This one might be a little scent.

[K. Michelle]

Talk about a rock that a disgruntled ex said:8 years ago. I already know who you've contacted, what blogs you called to go read that and want to spread that. I think that is very disheartening. And that shows the character of these women. The trauma that was caused by the rumor. It really hasn't gotten better. I can say I'm here, come here, like a lot of people, but I haven't and I don't know when I will. I'm not going to let y' all keep playing in my face. Like I don't hear, like I don't see.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Leave me be.

[K. Michelle]

Because it keeps building up. And when it get to where it need to get to, I'mma curse all them the out.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Now, you'll notice in this clip, she never directly says to Portia, you said this. Why would you say that? This made me feel this way. You're who I'm talking about. She directs some things at Drew, but she never directly says that to Portia. She then goes and has another conversation, very separate. Portia's not there with Shamia and a couple of the other ladies about the fact that, you know, she was talking about Portia, right? So her and Shamia kind of had this like, bonding moment over that. Because as we know, Shamia has went through her own issues, but Portia Williams, which has resulted in their relationship being like non existent to an extent. But I went back today and I was watching some of the interviews that Portia Williams has done in the last, like, couple weeks. One of them being an interview that she did with Carlos King. Because in the midst of all of this, the fire that this started, right? You got K. Michelle on Twitter, Portia Williams on Twitter. K. Michelle's calling Portia Williams a coward and saying like, you know, basically, you Know what you did. Porsha Williams is right at K. Michelle on Twitter, calling her Twitter fingers, you know, saying, like, look, if I'm a coward, you a coward, too. Because if something was going on and it has something to do with me, you should have addressed it right then and there. That's what we do on Real Housewives of Atlanta. So. And then K. Michelle alleges that Portia slept with one of her exes. Like, it's a whole thing. So that's going down. And in the midst of that, Carlos King tweets out a video clip of Portia. And I had seen this interview prior to, but I didn't watch it in full. I hadn't even gotten to this part that he tweeted out. And I'm like, you know, Carlos King is the reality show King. Shout out to Carlos King. He's also here on the Black Effect podcast network. He don't do nothing by chance. So I'm like, let me go and rewatch his interview real quick to see if she directly addresses this, which, again, this was two weeks before this episode even premiered. So there's no way she would have directly stated what was about to happen early because these girls signed contracts. You can't tell the storyline. You just have to let it play out. And then at the reunion and following that, we get on into the things, right? But I go watch the interview, and there's a part of the interview where Portia addresses the whole miscarriage conversation, or lack thereof, with K. Michelle and what she meant by that. Let's take a listen.

[Carlos King]

The miscarriage comment. Yeah, I'm sure you saw the comments. It seemed to be pretty split whether or not you intentionally meant it to harm her or it was just something that, you know, you said off the top of your dome. You are somebody who is an ambassador for the March of Dimes. You are somebody. Again, going back to season six where you talked about having a miscarriage, right? And you cried about the fact that you were there for a week and Cordell didn't only show them one time. Like, this is something that you have, you know, dealt with, right? What would you like to say? Because K. Michelle did do tweets, even after the episode aired, where we saw the episode end and it seemed like y' all hugged it all. Everything is good. But then the tweets started to happen afterwards where she sort of is doubling down on. She doesn't trust you. What do you have to say about that?

[Portia Williams]

I think that's another situation where someone has decided that this is the route they need to take. I don't think this is the route that K. Michelle needs to take or has to take. I think it's the wrong road. But at the end of the day, if you have been watching the show and then you are finally on the show, you decide this is how you're gonna enter. This is how I'll make my mark. Then it is what it is. This is the game she decides to play.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But then they get into a conversation about storylines and girls coming into the franchise and needing the storyline. Let's take a listen to that.

[Portia Williams]

When I watched K. Michelle, her punishment was too hard for what she called the crime. I said, okay, I picked them up on and I text her. Cause that's how I am. Ask Candy. Ask anybody. Ask Charade if you do. You know, I'm a text right away as I'm watching the show. And I said, hey, I just want you to know I'm watching a show and I see that you still didn't feel or you were still upset with, you know, me speaking to you about the situation. I said, I want you to know I am sincere and that I never would have wanted to offend you about that. When I spoke with Shamia, she never told me any detail. You never told me anything of a detail of your bottom. You know, I never would have done that. And I just want you to know from my heart, even though I saw her call me all them names, I was like, fuck all that. Let me make her as a woman understand that at the root of it, I never would have made fun of you. She said, okay, I truly appreciate that, et cetera. And, you know, I appreciate you reiterating that you didn't know or blah, blah. So I said, okay, cool, put the phone down. We were done. Oh, my God. The next day she's tweeting, saying, oh, well, you know what? If you was to die, what did you. Doubling down. I was like, okay, I see what I'm dealing with. I see what I'm dealing with. And listen, I don't want to go too hard on K. Michelle. I just say this in general as a. As a person, in any space, you could be at work, it could be a family member, it could be a friend. If you are in any group and you are talking to somebody and they don't have a heart to understand you, they don't want to understand you. It could be for whatever reason, ratings or want to be. Want to be right or just want to see what's wrong. They're never going to understand. They're never going to actually say out loud, oh, I understand, because they're too busy trying to do something else, whatever that else may be. So I said, okay, cool. So at this point, you know, I know what else happens in the season, and although she's funny and she's adorable, I don't know how it's going to go over. I don't think that what was happening with her and Drew is going to go over as well as maybe she thinks it will. I don't. And I think, if I'm being honest, I think that when she looks back at this first season, she'll probably be like, oh, I probably chose the wrong team, and I probably should have gone about things in a more authentic way.

[Lauren LaRosa]

So as I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, so she could talk about the miscarriage thing. Because at the point of that interview, that had already happened and so did another firestorm on Twitter that it went down from K. Michelle and Portia Williams, right? And it seems like in the moment, while watching that in real time, because these girls are experiencing this in real time, like they're living it, but as we're watching it as it airs, they're also reliving it again. But I think, you know, from what it sounds like, Portia was caught off guard because as she was rewatching it in real time, she shot K. Michelle attacks and tried to, you know, clear up everything, apologize, move forward in good faith. Like, she's trying to be a real bitch about it. Like, excuse my French. But if I'm being honest, she's confronting what the mix up was. Because even in that episode, K. Michelle never said anything to Portia about feeling how she felt about the statement. But they cleared it up. You know, according to Portia, they moved on. K. Michelle has not commented on, you know, that background information that Portia Williams gave on that moment. But the second part, where she's talking about storylines and girls, you know, coming in and having to, you know, figure out the storyline and all these things, I'm like, oh, Portia was kind of giving us a little clue about what we were about to see moving forward in these episodes or what she's alleged, K. Michelle's pattern of behavior is going to be for what we're going to see coming up next. And now that we've seen what came up next and you go back and listen to this, I'm like, okay, so Portia feels like K. Michelle thinks that this is what she has to do to create a storyline for herself on the show lean into things that are not really things. Now, I'll admit, again, the miscarriage moment, I can understand why from everything, from all the information I have right now, I can understand why Portia would have been a little bit like, wait, what? I didn't even mean it that way. I can also understand the sensitivity on K. Michelle's side because it's something that is happening to her and she's been very vocal about, you know, the changes that she's had to physically make to her body to literally keep herself alive. These are very traumatic experiences. And Portia, you know, has had a miscarriage before and has talked about it. These things are very traumatic experiences. So I understand both sides. But it's easy to give Portia a benefit of a doubt in this situation because it was never addressed. And when she did address it, they moved on. She explained, boom, now they're here, right? So it seems like this is happening again, but this time, when this happens with the whole vagina situation, you know, I saw like, the. The episode prior where Kelly mentions that Portia Williams Punani or her Hot Pocket smells like Cheetos. It was real quick. You had to catch it. And all the girls were screaming when she said it. But let's take a listen to that. This is the episode prior to episode seven. This is episode six at the very end. Let's take a listen.

[Portia Williams]

You should be able to read a better than that. Let me tell you about a like me. You done every like you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Okay?

[Portia Williams]

You tried to s me. Are you insane? Who tried to scare you? Okay, all right.

[K. Michelle]

Okay.

[Portia Williams]

Yeah, that mother Hot chili cheese Fritos, baby. I don't want to S you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

And that right there is where episode seven picks up at. So we're thrown right into that, right? So I can understand, number one, why people are covering it the way that they're covering it as blanket. Why would Portia say that? Because in Portia's comments about the oysters, the vagina, whatever, is easy to, like, infer that she's talking to Kelly, but she doesn't say it directly to her. And they're directly having these back and forths on the show up until this point. Now, granted, the girls, though indirect shade all day long, you know, that they are not. Portia is not absent or absolved of doing that. But in my mind, as I'm watching it, literally, even after seeing the prior episode, the first thing I thought of was like, wait, is she being funny to K. Michelle? Because every. That conversation was like a It was a thing. It was here, it was big. There were a lot of people talking about it. So I was just like, oh, I know the producers don't have her playing with K. Michelle like that. Like, no, no, no, no, no. And the reason why I say the producers is because in my mind, I'm like. And again, I'm reiterating what I said on Breakfast Club, but I'm able to explain a bit better here. It's two things for me. It's either on one side, Portia really wasn't even talking to Kate Michelle, and it was just something that she threw in conversation, whether she was being shady or she was just having a good time. Because, you know, Portia's dating girls, and there's a lot of things you can point to that have led up to that moment where Portia will be talking about USS and vagina. Or you got your story. Producers behind the scenes on reality tv. And K. Michelle said in one of her tweets, I'm not trying to hear nothing y' all talking about, because the way that things are produced by these girls behind the scenes, I'm buying it. Right? So K. Michelle believes that this is a produced up moment that is a part of this big plot. Portia has not come out and clarified any of who she was talking to or why. Again, a lot of times they cannot because we have more episodes to go on the show. But Portia was on Sherri shepherd prior to. And I know that this was prior to her seeing the episode air on Bravo. So seeing how it was edited to air to fans because Sherri Shepherd's show is no longer recording live. So all of this was pre taped some weeks ago. Right. And so that means she would have lived it in real time. So however she felt about it and then went and spoke on this prior to watching how it was aired on Bravo. Let's take a listen to Porshawn Cher Shepherd. Yes, yes.

[Portia Williams]

And but, you know, it get like that sometimes. You're not gonna like everybody on the cast. You know, Drew is absolutely amazing stuff. K. Michelle has joined the show and shook it up like she shake them tables.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes.

[Portia Williams]

And you know, one thing about it, I think that a lot of people who haven't done reality TV before come on and they're being thirsty, you know, but these girls are being spicy. Are new girls. They're not thirsty. They're spicy. Cause they're already established. They're already that girl. Pinky's that girl. She's a business entrepreneur, has done everything and made Millions and millions. And then you have K. Michelle, who's established country singer Groundbreaker. So I'm glad that we have some real heavy hitters now on the show.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Well, you got the heavy hitters, and it's interesting. Cause they did. Let me know. We don't. You know, they're spicy, but, you know, it is very spicy because I know that you're the fellow housewife Kelly Farrell. Oh, yeah. She's been throwing accusations that you've been sleeping with married men. Now, is that spicy or is that a major issue?

[Portia Williams]

I mean, she is just like dragon tea from, like, four years ago. Like, you know, one thing I can say again, going back to some of the new girls, going back to Angela Oakley, who's joined the show. This show is about showing black women who are established who have a wonderful life, fulfilled life in themselves so they don't have to focus on other people. If they end up focusing on you, they're gonna read you. Right. But they're not making me. Their. Those women, you know, you pay attention to them. They got it going on. You know, they got businesses, they got husbands, they got things. And I just think it's very unfortunate when some of the girls come on the show and they have to kind of search and reach. And she's always reaching for other reasons, but, you know, just.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Is that reaching?

[Portia Williams]

She reaching and she can't quite get.

[Lauren LaRosa]

You can't quite get the room.

[Portia Williams]

Why is he. Who even handed her the peach, you know? Cause it's like, I don't know. But listen, Kelly, sometimes she's cool, sometimes she's not. I think that if you can dish it out, you should be able to receive it back to you.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Yes. And you should be able to move on.

[Portia Williams]

I think it is very clear she tried to come in hot, and I just cooled her down. Ain't nothing wrong with that.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Again, she is doubling down on the girls needing storylines to be in the game. Still giving K. Michelle her props, but talking about the storylines. And that's my thing. It's like we're trying to decipher here, like, what is the storyline for either one of the girls for Portia Williams or for K. Michelle and what is not. And I feel like this is my feeling. This is not facts. My feeling in this is as I'm watching all of this unfold and Portia is responding to K. Michelle's tweets. Why not just say, girl, that wasn't even meant for you. That makes everybody point to. Okay, she probably throwing that back at Kelly. Okay, you know Portia dating girls now, so we know where she at with it. You know what I mean? Like, why not just say that now? She could also just be leaving that out because, you know, she's drumming up. We got some more episodes to watch, but we just gotta. I guess we just gotta wait and see. But I wanna know how you guys feel. Like, in this world of reality tv. Do you feel like all is fair in reality TV and war? Or do you feel like Portia owes K. Michelle a sense of loyalty to a certain extent and peace to a certain extent because she's her friend that kind of held her hand bringing her into this franchise? I wanna know how you guys feel. Get at me all over social. I'm Lauren LaRosa. L O R E N L O R O S A and I tell you guys, you know, every single episode, y' all could be anywhere talking about all these things with everybody. Literally everybody is talking about this right now, but y' all are right here with me having a conversation about it. My lowriders. I appreciate you guys, and I'll catch you in my next episode. This is an I Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.