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Bowen Yang
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Bowen Yang
Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been joined by some of our friends.
Matt Rogers
Hi, Bowen.
Lauren LaRosa
Hi, Matt.
Matt Rogers
Hey, Elmo.
Taylor
Hey, Matt.
Jeezy
Hey, Bowen.
Lauren LaRosa
Hi, Cookie.
Bowen Yang
Hi.
Matt Rogers
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Lauren LaRosa
1969. Malcolm and Martin are gone. America is in crisis, and at Morehous.
Jeezy
The students make their move.
Bowen Yang
These students, including a young Samuel L. Jackson, locked up the members of the board of trustees, including Martin Luther King Senior. It's the true story of protests and rebellion in black American history that you'll never forget. I'm Hans Charles.
Lauren LaRosa
I'm Menelik Lumumba.
Bowen Yang
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Lauren LaRosa
Let's get to it. I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody, you.
Bowen Yang
Know, she don't lie about that, right?
Taylor
LA came in hot.
Lauren LaRosa
Hey, y'. All, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room. Now we are back with another episode, so of course we gotta check in behind the scenes of the grind. At this point, y', all, if I'm being honest about how I'm feeling, just where I'm at and what is going on with myself, I'm counting down the days until we are on Christmas break. Like, I am honestly and truly counting down. I enjoyed the Thanksgiving break in my birthday so much. I know that this Christmas break won't be the same because, you know, we'll be on break. When I say on break, I don't mean here at the podcast. You guys will still get episodes here on the podcast, but the Breakfast Club will be on break for about, like, two weeks. There's no way I can go away for two weeks and not work and not watch news and not create news. And, you know, I'm not. But I am going to give myself some time, like the day before Christmas Eve to probably about, like, the 25th, maybe. The 25th. Yeah. So like, the 26, I wake up and get back to work. So I'll give myself a couple days, and then I'm back at it. Headed to Ghana on the 27th. I'm going to Ghana for the first time. Taylor's here, y'. All. Taylor gang is back. Taylor made it. It's back, back. She's a mom now. Yes, ma'. Am. And she's back to work. And I know that sucks, huh? Speaking of being back, are you excited to be back? It's not necessarily exciting, but, you know.
Taylor (Guest)
I'm ready to, you know, start my new chapter. Being a mom and still, you know, working, working and, you know, trying to be the boss of that. I'm striving to be.
Lauren LaRosa
Have you felt. I mean, it's only been like, a couple of days or, like. But do you have. Do you feel like, oh, I got the balance of that, like, down packed of, like, waking up, doing stuff with your baby, then come to work?
Taylor (Guest)
Not necessarily, because my. My son's, like, all over the place. Like, he's still grow. Like, he's Continuously growing and changing. So it's just, it's just continually, like, adjusting.
Lauren LaRosa
Well, we happy to have you back.
Taylor (Guest)
I'm happy to be back, though.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. Y' all tell her, look, she had no baby nowhere. She looked exactly the same before her baby was here. Like, literally exactly the same. Thank you. But yes, honey, I know. You can't wait for the CR Christmas break either, though. Just. Yes, that's right. Go back.
Taylor (Guest)
I came out perfect. I got to, like, getting used to it. And then like, all right, I'm gonna break again.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah.
Taylor (Guest)
So it's all good.
Lauren LaRosa
Yes. So I am counting down those days. Yeah, I'm there. I'm counting down. But we are going to get into the latest and what's going on. What's going on. So let's do it. Okay, so first up, Jimmy Kimmel. Y' all know, I don't know if I said it here on the podcast, but late night tv, I just think even though I know the, you know, the market is changing and the game is changing and people, a lot of the eyeballs aren't there anymore. But Jimmy Kibble is still on air and doing the thing. You all remember back in September, he was taking off Air Force Sec because ABC was upset about some comments that he had made after Charlie Kirk passed away. But then he was brought back on air. Scour through the episodes. I don't know what episode number it is, but we covered that here when Kimmel was taken off of air and the things that were said by the FCC chairman, Brendan Carr, who, you know, threw a very harsh warning to the network and said the network and Disney has said we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way. And it was just announced that not only is he back, I mean, we know he's back because we've been watching him. But ABC has just announced that in Jimmy Kimmel have just announced that they have extended his show for at least one year after all of that commotion and the suspension and all of the things. So Kimmel put up a post from Bloomberg that is titled, Jimmy Kimmel extends deal with Disney ABC for at least a year. And the caption, he's throwing a shot back at Trump. In the caption he says, I am pleased to announce another no talent year. Now, the reason why this is a shot is because the Kennedy center honors took place recently and President Trump was the host of the evening and he was asked about, you know, how he prepared versus not because he said he did not prepare and he took a shot at Kimmel let's take a listen.
Matt Rogers
How have you prepared to host tonight?
Jimmy Kimmel
Well, maybe I haven't prepared. Maybe you want to be a little bit loose. If you look at the great hosts, Johnny Carson, Bob Hope, those are the greats. If you look at the not so greats, like Jimmy Kimmel, he was terrible. That is.
Lauren LaRosa
So they got this like, I don't know, this little love, hate, ish thing going on. I mean, if I'm Kimmel, of course I'm leaning into it because, I mean, it makes sense, right? Like this is the President of the United States that people pay a lot of attention to. So if he's gonna keep talking about you, you get on your show and you respond. And that's exactly what he did. So Kimmel, as the comedian and late night talk show host that he is, got on his show to let Donald Trump know, listen, I'm married. We can't do this flirting thing anymore.
Jimmy Kimmel
Very hurtful. I thought we were friends. I don't know what's going on. He is really fixated. I'm starting to think he might have a crush on me.
Lauren LaRosa
Do we know if our media and television and streaming and, you know, all of the things in that market are free of control from the Trump administration? No, we do not know. Honestly, with everything that happened with that last merger, the Skydance merger, and now the conversations that we're having with Netflix and Paramount and Trump's involvement and all of the things, right. I don't know, like they're, they're trying to block out Netflix from, you know, owning certain things. And Donald Trump is like, you know, basically implying that that would cause a monopoly of the industry. But these last couple big mergers in that space, Trump has been so heavily involved and he's involved in this when he's saying he's going to be involved in the approval. We know the guys over at Paramount, Ellison, that's his homie. So the monopoly to me is looking like it's in the President's hand. So. Which is crazy. God be with us. Every time I see certain headlines with Trump that aren't like presidential or political related, I'm always, and I guess, I mean, people could argue that making sure that our broadcast and media lanes are not monopolized. It's political. Can be political, Right. But I be always trying to figure out, like, he don't have nothing else to do, like so much stuff.
Taylor (Guest)
Exactly. There's so much other stuff he needs to like, really care for. And this stuff I feel like is should be lower in the List.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I. I agree, but we'll just have to, like, keep watching. I posted to my Insta store yesterday that this whole, like, back and forth between Paramount and Netflix is literally like the new Real Housewives. And Trump is Andy Cohen, and Trump is Andy Cohen. And it, like, it's giving. He's stirring up the girls. And the reunion is going to happen, like, once the. Whoever wins the, like, the bid. That. That won't even be the reunion. That'll be like, you know, we'll be getting ready for a new season. But the reunion of this will be like. Because I know Netflix has already had their conversation with Trump, Paramount, and, you know, Ellison, that, that's his friend. They're talking all the time. There's going to be this one big meeting that they have to have or something. Like, Trump is going to figure out a way to get them all in a room to argue just so he can be in the midst of it and say, I figured it out and I did this, and that's going to be the reunion. So we will be there. Not physically, but we'll be tuned in. We'll be locked in. Now, in other news, speaking of marriages and relationships, Jeezy sat down with Bishop T.D. jakes on T.D. jakes podcast, Next Chapter. And on this podcast, T.D. jakes takes, like, your life, your story in the interview, and divides it into several different chapters. And he dives really deep into, like, past traumas and, you know, like, how you've gotten from one place to the other, your background to who you are now, the building of your business, all those things. So he's talking to Jeezy about Jeezy's life in general, some of his hardships when dealing with his mom and their, you know, very tumultuous relationship. But then they get into relationships and marriage, and Jeezy opens up about almost being afraid of bringing mommy issues into his marriage or relationship. And then they get to the part that I've seen a lot of the blogs and people posting and talking about, because there's a sense of accountability here, here. But some people are feeling like there's also a sense of arrogance. They get to the point where Jeezy is talking about what he learned while in his marriage and through divorce. He said he learned that he was a good husband. Let's take a listen.
Jeezy
What did you learn from it? I learned I was a great husband.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay.
Jeezy
I. I got a beautiful daughter out of a situation, so I. There's no regrets there, but I learned a lot about myself. Learned that there's things that I continue to work on. I learned about, you know, my preferences for things, the type of space that I need, the type of moments that I need to decompress about certain things. And this just unselfish nature, you know, that I was selfish in my prior life. And I think just going forward in life, it just taught me how to, like, give someone else grace and actually listen to understand, rather than just to listen to reply.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah, Jeannie's gonna fire back.
Lauren LaRosa
Probably. So Jeannie has been posting. Jeannie is Jeannie Mai, who is the ex wife of or they're still going through the divorce, I believe. Hold on, let me dou check that. Yeah. So the divorce was finalized in June of 2024. But Jeie my since then has been like, if you follow her on Instagram, she takes you on this journey of, like, single mom life and figuring out life after divorce. And so I think she probably will fire back. She's. She's been coming off. The girl has been given very, like, Zen. Like, she's in this, like, peaceful state. So we'll see if she keeps that state after his statement. But, I mean, I think. I think everything is up for interpretation. I think whenever two people decide that they're not gonna be together, whether marriage or kids or not or are involved, you can always be a villain in somebody's story. So I think he has his view on the man that he was and the man he grew into from the situation, what he learned, what he didn't. And she's gonna have her view. So, I mean, I'm open to hear her response, but when I was listening to his response, the whole husband thing kind of threw me off because I was like, what does he mean? But I think what he meant is that what he learned about himself and the things that he's taken accountability for, he's capable of being a good husband. I think at the time in their marriage and what they were going through, I think even though he didn't say this, listening to just sounded like they weren't good for each other.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah, it was random a little bit.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. I mean, like, how they.
Taylor (Guest)
I wonder. I don't know the story, how they hooked up or any of that, but I remember seeing a picture with her.
Lauren LaRosa
I remember seeing hearing it and seeing it, and I thought it was fake. I was like, how, like, what?
Taylor (Guest)
They got married really quickly, too. They weren't dating for that long.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Okay, so here's the timeline. So they made their first public appearance in August 2019. They went Instagram official in September 2019. He proposed in March of 2020. Now, prior to them making their first public appearance and they had their daughter in January 2022. So things did move pretty fast. But they started dating back in late 2018. They met on the set of the Real, the talk show the Real.
Taylor (Guest)
Okay.
Lauren LaRosa
And then after that they begin dating and then, you know, all the things happen. So, I mean, there was like, yeah, they had about a year after they had met and started dating that. Which it can be pretty fast. But I also feel like if you've met the right person.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah, I'm not one to judge.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah, I mean, look, me either. I think if you've met the right person, timeline is just a moving variable for some. I also think, because I think meeting the right person sometimes also means that even the things that you guys are finding aren't the best about each other or the best about you guys together, you are so locked in and there's a silver lining that you are willing to work on it. Yeah, I think. Not think from covering the divorce of Jeezy and Jeannie Mai, hearing him in this interview, seeing some of the things that she's posted that, you know, she's learned post divorce just about relationships and, you know, the new journey she's on, it kind of seems like the two had very different core values. Yeah, I will say that. And I think, you know, in me dating and like, being intentional about dating, like that, that's something that is very important to me. And that's not even something I've learned. I've always felt like, all right, when I get to a point where, like, I really seriously want to consider someone being in my life for the rest of my life, core values matter. Because I think, especially when you have kids, if everything strips away, like if y' all hate each other to the bone one day, but y' all still got to raise that baby, your core values, if they align, you know what I mean? Like, there's a synergy there that can still happen even as co parents. So it seems like, you know, the core values were a bit different. But I'm not mad at him for taking accountability within things. And I'm also not mad at him for feeling like he. He can be a great husband to somebody. Yeah, it might not be to her. And I think in seeing people's reaction to it, they're like, oh, not a great husband, but it ended up in divorce or not a great husband, but she accused you of A, B, C and D and your divorce, you know, Filings and documents. People got to realize, you know, you could be a great person to the wrong person or, you know, he might not have been the best.
Taylor (Guest)
Right.
Lauren LaRosa
There are things, I'm sure were not his best days in that relationship, as in any relationship or, you know, marriage. But coming out of it and learning, especially at his big age. You want to hear that accountability and that maturity.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah, for sure.
Lauren LaRosa
Like, if we didn't hear it, I'd be a little disappointed.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
Okay. That period. Especially because he has kids and he's been. I mean, he's been a father. He had kids very young. But even when he talked about that in this episode, he talks about learning to apologize to his daughter and some of the things he's recently learning. And he's been a father.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah.
Lauren LaRosa
You know what I mean? But again, he's growing and he's learning. People are just people. Your parents are just people. Married people are just people. You're figuring it out.
Taylor (Guest)
No, for sure. I feel like my parents are still. Well, not their marriage, but, like, even, like, with my dad, like, I feel like he's learning even to be even more, like, romantic with my. My mom.
Lauren LaRosa
And how long have they been married?
Taylor (Guest)
45 years.
Lauren LaRosa
See? And, like, and I think there's. There'll be so many people that be like, if your man doesn't court you in romance, you.
Taylor (Guest)
But he's done so much. Yeah, but, like, the thing. My dad's been such a provider for the family and, you know, whole lack, like, we've always went on family vacations. But I think he's starting to realize really, what, like, brings my mom joy. And that's just being with family, too. You know what I mean?
Lauren LaRosa
And I love to hear that, because I also think, too, that what you begin to realize, like, when you talk, people change. Yes. When you think about spending your life with somebody is, like, who you are. Day one, year one is not who you are for year 45 at all. So you have to relearn each other, and that's, like, working. That's what I meant by.
Taylor (Guest)
It's so much stuff.
Lauren LaRosa
Yeah. Yep. And that's what I meant by, like, timeline with Jeezy and Je. Ma. Like, you know, it seems like things progress pretty quickly with them, but I mean, if. If you got. If you are down for that ride with that person, you learn each other as you go. And, I mean, I. I know people who've been together for me, like, since the first link, literally, and are now happily. I have a friend in Atlanta who met a Guy, She's a model, he's a photographer. Literally met him. They have a whole life together now. Three kids in. I think they literally met, did a photo shoot. She finally gave in. Gave him, like, went on a date with him. From that first date, they've never separated. Moved in, I think, like, within, like, the first, like, couple months of their relationship and three kids.
Taylor (Guest)
Timing. Knowing what you want matters a lot. Like, the intention.
Lauren LaRosa
I told you. Yeah.
Matt Rogers
Wow.
Lauren LaRosa
We are. We're in such different spaces in our lives. Taylor. Last time we were talking about relationship, I was in, like, such a different space. I don't think that I wasn't. I'm not even thinking I wasn't intentional in that part of my life, but I feel like it's. I don't think that there's anything wrong with it, per se, but I do think you start to realize, like, you get. You're giving your time, your energy in and your body to people that, you know, you have no further plan with, like, at all. Like, because once I met somebody, like, I mentally, I got to a point where I'm like, okay, like, you know, everything's speeding up in life for me. I don't have time to just, like, do whatever. Exactly. And then my intention changed and I met somebody, and when I, well, relinked with somebody, that I was just like, I want to be so intentional about this. Like, I want to figure this out.
Taylor (Guest)
Yeah. I think, like, as. As people, as we get older, you. I mean, certain things are more important. And intentions, I guess they are more important. People dating people are just fine, too. But I feel like it gets to a point where it's just like, all right, I want to be with someone and, like, grow, grow with someone. That's important.
Lauren LaRosa
It is. Why was Jeezy the best? That was Jeannie Mai the best. They have a beautiful baby. So cute. I saw a video Jeannie Mai posted the other day of her baby girl, like, kissing her and telling her that she, like, her baby girl, like, kissed her on her forehead and on both her cheeks and, like, told her she loved her. And it was, like, such a moment. I think Jeannie Mai said it, like, brought her to tears. So, you know, beautiful baby came out of that situation at the end of the day. So let's keep it going, but make sure you guys go check out that full conversation. It is two hours long, but it's very in depth. It's super well done to. I mean, it's Bishop T.D. jake, so duh. But it is very well done. It takes you through Jeezy's life story and kind of really helps you understand who he is as a man now and who he was then and kind of, you know, why. Why We've gotten some of the music and the things that we've gotten from Jeezy throughout the years, good and bad. So go check that out. It's called Next chapter with Bishop T.D. jake. But yeah, guys, that's it for the episode. I tell you guys, every single episode. My low riders, y' all could be anywhere with anybody talking about all these things, but y' all choose to be right here with me. I appreciate you guys. Taylor, we are so happy to have you back. Girl on the ones and twos behind the pod. We'll catch you in the next episode. See you guys. Bye.
Bowen Yang
I'm Bowen Yang.
Matt Rogers
And I'm Matt Rogers. During this season of the Two Guys.
Bowen Yang
Five Rings podcast, in the lead up to the Milan Cortina 2026 Winter Olympic Games, we've been by some of our friends.
Matt Rogers
Hi, Bowen.
Lauren LaRosa
Hi, Matt.
Matt Rogers
Hey, Elmo.
Taylor
Hey, Matt.
Jeezy
Hey, Bowen.
Lauren LaRosa
Hi, Cookie.
Bowen Yang
Hi.
Matt Rogers
Now the Winter Olympic Games are underway and we are in Italy to give you experiences from our hearts to your ears. Listen to Two Guys Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Jimmy Kimmel
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Matt Rogers
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Jimmy Kimmel
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Lauren LaRosa
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Episode: REPLAY Complicated Relationships (Jimmy Kimmel vs Trump and Jeezy opens up about his n)
Air Date: February 10, 2026
Host: Loren LaRosa (Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartPodcasts)
This episode dives into recent pop culture headlines and relationship topics making waves in the media. Loren LoRosa takes listeners through the ongoing media feud between late night host Jimmy Kimmel and former President Donald Trump, the implications of Trump’s meddling in Hollywood business deals, and an in-depth look at rapper Jeezy’s candid interview about his personal growth and divorce from Jeannie Mai. Loren and returning guest Taylor (now a new mom) discuss work-life balance, lessons from relationships, and the evolving nature of love and partnership.
Trump, referencing legendary talk show hosts, disparages Kimmel’s hosting abilities:
Kimmel’s comedic response on his show further fuels the playful feud:
Loren speculates on Trump’s heavy involvement in recent media mergers (e.g., Skydance, Netflix, Paramount), questioning possible industry monopolization and Trump's behind-the-scenes influence.
Loren humorously compares the business drama to a “Real Housewives” reunion, with Trump as the “Andy Cohen” stirring things up:
Quote:
“I learned I was a great husband. I got a beautiful daughter out of a situation, so...there’s no regrets there, but I learned a lot about myself...that I continue to work on.”
—Jeezy (11:17)
He reflects on giving grace to others and listening to understand, indicating newfound maturity and accountability.
Quote:
“Listen to understand, rather than just to listen to reply.”
—Jeezy (12:02)
Taylor predicts Jeannie Mai may respond to Jeezy’s comments; Loren notes Jeannie has been publicly embracing peace and “Zen” since their separation.
Loren discusses the nuance: one can be “a great husband” or person, but still not the right match. She emphasizes the importance of core values and mutual growth, especially after seeing contrasting statements and lifestyle changes from both Jeannie and Jeezy.
The duo reflects on timelines and compatibility—some couples move quickly but make it work, while others, even with effort, may have fundamental differences they can’t bridge.
[17:05-20:31]
Loren and Taylor discuss how relationships and people evolve with time, drawing from both celebrity stories and personal family experiences (Taylor’s parents have been married 45 years and are still learning about each other).
The importance of intention in dating and relationships, especially as people get older and more focused on what truly matters.
Despite Jeezy and Jeannie Mai’s split, both women praise the beauty of their co-parenting relationship and the joy in their child’s life.
Loren LaRosa artfully connects trending celebrity dramas with relatable, everyday relationship lessons. Whether recapping a media spat or breaking down high-profile divorces, she threads in humor, introspection, and candid wisdom, making the complex world of celebrity culture both accessible and meaningful.
“People are just people. Your parents are just people. Married people are just people. You're figuring it out.”
—Loren LaRosa (17:24)
For full conversations and deeper dives, check out the Next Chapter podcast with Bishop T.D. Jakes (Jeezy episode) and Loren’s Instagram for ongoing commentary.