Podcast Summary: The Latest with Loren LoRosa
Episode: Loren LoRosa Takes Art Basel, Black Creativity Wins, Kehlani’s Growth & No More Disses From Pusha T?
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Loren LoRosa
Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode sees Loren LoRosa fresh from experiencing Miami’s Art Basel, reflecting on the power of Black creativity, community, and honoring personal growth. Loren also deep-dives into Kehlani’s recent, revealing interview on The Breakfast Club—focusing on her vulnerability and mental health—and dissects Pusha T's proclamation that he’s finished with diss tracks, considering what this means for hip-hop culture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Loren's Art Basel Experience & Black Artistry

[02:51–08:55]

• Loren shares the excitement of attending her first Art Basel in Miami, hosting Unk's Art House—a McDonald’s event blending art, food, jazz, and community. She highlights the event’s aim: to emulate the energy and wisdom of an “unk”—the OG family member who brings vibrancy and connection.

• The venue celebrated Black artists, with collaboration from Art House Studios (ART E HAU S), spotlighting 30 artists.

• Loren shouts out several featured artists, with particular attention to:

  • Harold Claudio ("Color in the South" - Andre 3000 artwork, $40k)
  • Raina Nerija Rello (depicts a Black woman ‘taking over Ocean Drive’—noted for its rich colors)
  • Howard D. Simmons, Shani Crow, Maya Bailey, among others.

• Loren describes her emotional response: seeing the depth and detail of the art reaffirmed her belief in a higher power and the immensity of human creativity.

• Memorable quote:

  “I was seeing art this week, and I was like, this is nothing but God. And if it’s in you, like, it’s not on you, it’s in you. All you gotta do is let it out, just live in it, do your thing, do your art, be consistent about it, and get out the way.” — Loren LoRosa [07:27]

• Takeaway: The experience triggered deep self-reflection; Loren emphasizes living fully in one’s gifts and not letting self-doubt block creativity. She encourages listeners—artists or not—to let their passion and skill shine.

2. Kehlani’s Growth & Vulnerability

[13:39–20:15]

• Loren reviews Kehlani’s candid Breakfast Club interview, praising Kehlani for clarity on her name ("Kehlani, not Kehlani") and for her willingness to speak candidly about personal and professional struggles:
  • Growing up in front of the camera and being “timestamped” by public and fans.
  • Online drama, public scrutiny, and deeply personal moments—like accusations from her child’s father and mental health struggles.
• Loren highlights how Kehlani reframed her journey with bipolar disorder—not minimizing it or accepting dismissive jokes, but sharing with honesty and depth.
• Notable moment:

  “I’ve always been messily vulnerable, but I grew up in front of the world… artists get timestamped in whatever version of themselves stuck out to the fan. So there’s people who still view me as something I went through when I was 24…and when you’re 24… you’re like, this is who I am right now. And I get it. Then 10 years later, you’re like, oh my God, I don’t know who that person…” — Kehlani [16:41, quoted by Loren]

• Loren commends the interview for giving Kehlani space to discuss her passions, beliefs (including her stance on Palestine and the professional fallout from it), and motherhood, rather than only focusing on music.
• She also draws a parallel between exposure to new experiences (like Art Basel) and creative rejuvenation, explaining how both she and Kehlani are speaking from a place of newfound growth.
• Loren admires Kehlani’s new music, especially the accountability and personal evolution in latest tracks "Folded" and "Out the Window":

  “Folded got us in the chokehold… But ‘Out the Window,’ Kehlani is on the other side. Her clothes was folded. She messed up, and she’s very accountable to that.” — Loren [19:15]

3. Pusha T Quitting Diss Tracks: End of an Era?

[20:15–27:57]

• Loren discusses the news that Pusha T claims diss tracks are “dead” to him, referencing his interview with Consequence and the evolution of beefs in hip-hop.

• She provides context, noting iconic Pusha T diss moments (e.g., “The Story of Adidon,” revealing Drake’s son; tracks aimed at Young Money, Jim Jones, Travis Scott).

• Pusha T’s reasoning:

  “It’s kind of dead to me… There was a clear winner. Somebody would really bow out. Now it’s just a whole bunch of noise… Even after we find the winners, it’s still noise… And it’s like, man, then what is it for? I’ve kind of been through that chapter and I’m over it.” — Pusha T (quoted by Loren) [21:45]

• She pulls excerpts from Breakfast Club interviews with Pusha T, where he expands on his disappointment with “proper etiquette” in the industry, particularly referencing conflict with Travis Scott:

  “He came to Paris during one of our sessions, you know, played his album. And then… the record that he played, you know, had a verse up there that was, you know, going at P… I just thought that was corny… Just stay the hell away from me.” — Pusha T (Breakfast Club, quoted by Loren) [24:53]

• Loren notes the different philosophies between Pusha T and his brother Malice, citing Malice’s wisdom:

  “If you arguing with too many clowns, people don’t know what’s the circus. You in the circus, and you’re doing all the things. You’re appearing like a clown, too.” — Malice (via Loren) [26:15]

• Loren sums up: Pusha T wants to preserve a higher taste level, values artistic elevation, and avoids back-and-forth drama. But she leaves the door open for speculation: Could the right rival bring him back for one more legendary diss?

  “I wouldn’t even say pick up the pin at another artist, because I think he’s always gonna probably pick up the pin. But will he ever put another one in the chamber and let it fly?” — Loren LoRosa [28:23]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This is how you know God is real… look at all this creativity.” — Loren, on Black artists at Art Basel [05:42]
• “If it’s in you, like, it’s not on you, it’s in you. All you gotta do is let it out…” — Loren [07:27]
• “I think I’ve always been messily vulnerable, but I grew up in front of the world…” — Kehlani [16:41]
• “It’s kind of dead to me… There was a clear winner. Somebody would really bow out. Now, it’s just a whole bunch of noise.” — Pusha T (quoted by Loren) [21:45]
• “If you arguing with too many clowns, people don’t know what’s the circus.” — Malice (via Loren) [26:15]

Important Segments & Timestamps

• Art Basel, Black Art, & Creative Renewal: 02:51–08:55
• Kehlani’s Growth, Mental Health, and Artistic Evolution: 13:39–20:15
• Pusha T, Diss Tracks, and Hip-Hop Evolution: 20:15–27:57

Tone & Style

Loren is engaging, honest, and conversational—mixing cultural commentary with moments of personal vulnerability and encouragement. She champions the excellence of Black artistry, celebrates honest dialogue in entertainment, and offers nuanced takes on the culture’s evolution.

Conclusion

This episode energizes and inspires, celebrating creative community at Art Basel, amplifying Kehlani’s journey of self-acceptance and boundary-setting, and exploring the shifting landscape of hip-hop’s combative side through Pusha T’s introspection. Loren weaves insightful analysis with heartfelt testimony—making the episode a must-listen for anyone invested in Black culture, music, and personal growth.