Lauren LaRosa (5:02)
Now, when Keri Hilson decided in that interview that she was not going to reveal who the writer was, I Googled, y'all. I'm sitting on. I literally. I didn't have my computer, Cars in the shop, computers in the car. But I'm on my phones, and y'all will see me in that moment on my phone because I'm trying to look up, well, who was the writer on the song? And I don't know if. Because it was leaked and you know, how it was placed, where it was leaked, writing credits were prevalent or, like, what. I also went to Twitter as well, and in that moment, I didn't know who she was talking about. And then she said, I'm not going to reveal who the writer is because the writer is also a celebrity. And I don't. Basically, it was kind of given, like, she didn't want to put her out there like that. But everything else that Carrie alleged, you know, with Polo to Don and. Or not even just him, but, like, just execs or her leadership at the time forcing her to do something, you know, in hearing that story, and I'm thinking, like, you know, this was years ago. She was a lot younger. She had such, you know, massive success, Massive success. At the time, I fell for her. I was like, yo, I can understand. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I would have done that, but I can understand being in that position and feeling like if I don't do this, everything I've worked for is going to be in question. These are people with, you know, power, influence, say, so I'm signed, you know, to them, and, you know, all the. All. All those factors that come in. But, baby, I'm trying to tell y'all when. When we posted this clip online, and then I. I took it over to Twitter, y'all ain't showing no grace whatsoever. Not narrow one Baby, Grace don't live here anymore. Not now. One, the way that she is being dragged on Twitter for telling her side of the story is insane. And a lot of people have pointed out, you know, in response to me taking the video to Twitter, older interviews that Kerry Holston had done where she talked about the song was not leaked. Bipolar to dawn and you know, that she wasn't forced to do the record in. I think y'all have to at least give her the grace of. If this is what she is now saying, she has the courage to come out and say, because she's taken all of these years over a decade off, she's found peace of mind. She's a little bit more, you know, confident or a lot more confident in who she is and where her voice is. She's also now a independent artist, so can't nobody stop nothing or shut nothing. You know what I mean? Like, she's an independent artist now. She can do and say certain things. It was different then. They literally controlled her career to some extent. And I think it was different then, too, with, like, you know, people believing certain things. I think if Carrie Hilson had come out and said that she was actually forced to do this song, would nobody had believed her, people would have been like, no, girl, that ain't true. You just saying that because the Beyonce fans don't like it. That ain't true. Didn't happen. And then y'all got on my body because I said. I said it in the interview. And I also said on Twitter that this was the first time that I'd heard Kerry Hilson talk about this in detail as far as being forced in things of that nature. And I think someone put up an interview from about, like, five years ago, but even in that interview, I feel like she was a lot more candid with us. And she said in our interview, because I mentioned that in our interview, like, hey, this is the first time that you. Because why? I don't remember this. And I feel like my. My. You know, what I was insinuating by asking. Asking. That is all this time, why haven't you ever said that? If that would have, like, turned the noise down, why didn't you say that? And she said that she did do an interview where she did talk about this, you know, to some extent, but she felt like the Breakfast Club was a bigger platform. She was, you know, more comfortable here, and she hoped that because of how big the platform was and how, you know, what the reach are, what the reach is, and what our reach is here, she Wouldn't have to talk about it again. That was her whole point. Now I will say Esther Dean has come out and she commented on the Breakfast Club's Instagram under the Kerry Hilson video where Kerry Hilson is having the conversation with us about this. And because people were tagging her into the video because the people knew, they was like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this. She commented and said, I'm here. And then she commented again because there was someone in the comments that said like, oh, Esther Dean wrote this or something like that. And she replied to that person and said and did. And it was a hit. Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on, y'all, wait. I just got a notification. Esther Dean actually just responded to all of this on her Instagram. Not no comments on her real Instagram. She says, I submitted a lot of verses for that remix. One got picked and it was co written with Carrie. Looking back, it was childish and didn't age well. I see how it hurt people, especially women. And I take full accountability. I've worked with and supported many women since. But that doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry for my part in it. Growth is real and so is apology real, y'all. I would say I'm indifferent about this, but I kind of feel bad for Kerri Hilson a bit. I do. I know that there are people that feel like, well, you know, during the time when it first came out, she should have said this, she should have said that. Like there should have been more that that happened when you saw this snowball effect. But I'm indifferent about what's true and what's not. I do have an opinion on how I feel about Carrie in this situation. I do feel like give her some grace a bit, but I don't know what's true, what's not. But until we know, and I don't even know if we ever really will know, like how would we know that? I think this is one of them things where we have to hear all sides of the story and then, not that we even have to, but it would be nice to hear all sides of the story and then be able to make a determination from there. Now, I did reach out to Esther Dean. I DM'd her on Instagram and said, hey, you know, I work for the Breakfast Club. Would love to talk to you as we'll be reporting this more now that you commented and let us knew that, you know, that you were the writer. Would love to talk to you, you know, from your point of view. And so I think I'M going to probably reach out to Polo, to Don too, just to see if he has anything that he, you know, would want to add in or, you know, comment in response. But Keri Hilson's new music comes out on April 18th. It's called we need to Talk. And Kerri Holson's back outside and she's talking and baby, she done started to be hive up again. Well, talking about what's true or not. Kenya Moore, our girl. Ken Moore is my girl. I love her. Housewives of Atlanta. You watch Taylor. Oh my God. I see clips though. I think in the, the last season or two though have have been a little stale. But they revived it by bringing Portia back onto the show this season. But then Kenya had to make the exit because of her back and forth with a new cast member. Her name is Britney Edie. Now Britney Edie, Kenya. We talked about it on the last episode that Brittany, Edie and Kenya had this. They just don't like each other on the show. We talked about that back and forth. I gave you guys that background. If you have not listened yet, please go listen to that episode so you can have a bit more of the background. Because now what has happened is people are responding. So Andy Cohen and his co host for his radio show are like recapping the episode and you know, talking about what happened and Andy's filling the co host in on what happened and the and one of his co hosts makes a comment that even showing someone a photo of someone else in a sexual manner or just certain things can be considered sexual assault. Now again, if you did not hear my breakdown of the episode and what happened, please go visit our episode prior to this one. But really quickly, I'll just tell you. Kenya Moore showed photos of the other cast member, Britney, giving fellatio to a man. Now according to rapecrisis.org sexual assault happens when someone either touches another person in a sexual manner without consent or makes another person touch them in a sexual manner without consent. It includes unwanted kissing and the touching of someone's genitals, breast or bottom. I do not see in any of the definitions that I am looking at showing revenge porn being sexual assault. Now there are other ways to classify, you know, non consensual sex related crimes, but from what I see, this wouldn't have been considered sexual assault. So then Andy Cohen in the, in the conversation shifts to now you know, what Kenya did in showing these photos at the event being likened to revenge porn. I looked up the definition of revenge porn. The definition of Revenge porn is revealing or sexually explicit images or videos of a person posted on the Internet, typically by a former sexual partner without the consent of the subject and in order to cause them distress or embarrassment. She's been. And here's the example they give of it. She's been campaigning for a change in the law since she first became a victim of revenge porn. So that's how it's used in the sentence. Now, the reason why I look this up is because there are times where I've heard people claim revenge porn when, like, you know, you have, like, an ex who, like, leaks stuff, not even on the Internet, but through text messages or emails or stuff like that and trying to exploit or whatever, and it's wrong. So Kenya comes in and she's responding to Andy Cohen and the co host, and she's really upset. So this happened on Instagram from her Kenya page. Kenya Moore says the two co hosts are extremely ignorant. Sexual assault is rape. Remember, that's what Phaedra accused Kandi of attempting to do to Portia. Now, I will say I think Kenya is being a little, you know, shady when she brings this up, because during that, y'all remember that. Well, if you don't remember, if you guys don't watch Real Housewives of Atlanta, but if you do, you know what I'm talking about. During that season when Phaedra accused Candy of trying to do that to Portia, Phaedra ended up being put off of the show. So she's basically saying, you guys understood it then and understood everything around it then, but now you guys don't. Revenge porn, question mark. If someone showed a Kim K. Sex tape to you, is that revenge porn? I found that plus tons of others online. She signed a release for it, so it's fair. Then she put receipt in all caps. So Kenya is alleging that there were release forms signed where these images could appear online. So by her recirculating them and putting them on the poster to bring to her event, she did nothing wrong. Warning. Kenya says, if you are not an attorney and familiar with Georgia law, then shut the F up. Sick of the bias and selective outrage. These are comments that should not have been aired. It is a podcast where is legal. You don't want activated. Kenya, I shouldn't have shown at my event, but for the love of God, why would they ignore a clear gun threat? And she's referring to the fact that the episode before that, Britney says while getting on the elevator too Kenya just in the area of Kenya that she still has her guns in her Whips. I'm not. Don't verbatim me there. I believe she said like her pistol, but it might have just been the word gun, but still, she. You know what I mean, in that context, you know, you say that around or to anyone you just got done arguing with what you would think they gonna feel. But Britney was trying to apologize. That is why she came to this event. But King ain't trying to hear. And after this, after, you know, everything was shown, Kenya was suspended indefinitely from Real Housewives of Atlanta. So, yeah, it's a mess. It's just a big mess. And I. And basically, Kenya is at this point threatening Andy Cohen and whoever else that is speaking about this, that if you don't get it right, I'm going to bring in legal. Now, again, I don't know if everything, you know here that she's alleging is true. I don't know if there were release forms signed by Britney to have these images placed certain places, wherever she. Kenya found them on. On the Internet. I didn't even look into it, to be honest with you. Because even if there were, I feel like, I mean, to Kenya's point, what she's trying to say, legally, that's a whole different thing. And if she takes it legal, I'll look more into that. My whole point in bringing us up and covering it, you know, I'm a fan of the show. But also, too, it was sad to see Kenya guard like this. Like I said last episode. And like I'm gonna say here as I end this, Kenya, you've been standing on business about your kingdom and you know what I mean, and everything you're doing for your daughter Brooklyn and all that for so long. Don't let these girls trick you out your spot. Do not. Okay. You were OG we needed you this season, and now we ain't got you. There's no reports on whether Kenya will be back for next season or not. She was suspended indefinitely for this season only. So we'll have to wait and see. So, as always, I'm Lauren LaRosa. I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about everything and every single body, every single time that, you know, y'all join me right here to talk about all these things, because at the end of the day, there is always a lot to talk about and a lot of places y'all could be listening to to talk about it. I appreciate y'all for tuning in, and I will see you guys in my next episode.