Podcast Summary: The Latest with Loren LoRosa
Episode: Vivica Fox talks 50 Cent and the internet has OPINIONS!
Date: November 12, 2025
Host: Loren LaRosa
Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode centers on the explosive viral moment when actress Vivica A. Fox candidly reflected on her past relationship with rapper 50 Cent at a Women's Expo, igniting widespread online debate. Loren LaRosa digs into the nuance behind Fox’s comments, examines cultural double standards on women and dating in the spotlight, and draws on her past interview with Fox to deepen the conversation about how public relationships can shape a woman’s career and legacy.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Vivica Fox’s Viral Advice: “Don’t Date 50 Cent”
- [04:13] Fox, at a Women's Expo in New Jersey, is asked what she’d tell her 17-year-old self. Her blunt answer:
Vivica A. Fox: “Don’t date 50 Cent and don’t date no damn—” - The internet erupts, with two camps forming: some believe Vivica is stuck on the past, while others defend her right to reflect on choices and their professional consequences.
2. Public Perception & Double Standards in Celebrity Dating
- [04:41 – 07:10] Loren discusses the online reaction, emphasizing that Vivica was a Hollywood “It Girl,” not just “50 Cent’s ex.”
- She breaks down the double standard in how women's past romances overshadow their careers, especially in media narratives.
- Highlights that men in similar scenarios aren’t branded the same way.
3. Revisiting Loren’s Past Interview with Vivica Fox
- [07:15 – 09:11] Loren revisits her 2023 interview with Vivica Fox, then nominated for her work on “The Tonisha Welch Story.”
- Fox reflects on how public focus on her love life—more than her talent—hurt her image.
- Vivica A. Fox: "There was a time where everyone was more concerned about my love life and things on the blogs than my talent. I learned that that was my mistake." (08:10)
- Fox takes “huge accountability,” admitting she left herself exposed and had to “rebrand” herself through serious theater roles.
- Vivica A. Fox: "I take accountability for all my actions. When something happens in my career, in my life, I'm the first one to look in the mirror and go, wow, how and why did that happen?" (08:38)
- She describes doing plays like "Cheaper to Keep Her" as a way to redefine her image (08:53).
- Fox reflects on how public focus on her love life—more than her talent—hurt her image.
4. Women’s Stories and the Right to Speak on Their Experiences
- [14:09 – 22:48] Loren unpacks enduring sexism in how women’s dating lives are scrutinized.
- Uses Fox as an example but draws parallels to others, e.g. Tracee Ellis Ross and Taylor Swift, noting women are “dragged” for discussing exes, while for men, it’s framed as “healing.”
- Brings up how Nick Cannon talks about Mariah Carey without being labeled “bitter.”
- Loren LaRosa: “Why can’t women talk about what they’ve learned in relationships and it not be, well, damn... we’re bitter, we can’t move on? We only do it with women.” (17:38)
- Challenges the expectation that women remain silent or embarrassed about learning from their romantic pasts.
- Calls for more space for women to reflect, heal, and share wisdom without social penalty.
5. The Power & Pitfalls of Owning the Narrative
- Loren emphasizes Vivica Fox’s “right” to talk about her own life and decisions.
- Loren LaRosa: “…that is her business to be able to do. So you got people out here… why are y’all mad at Vivica Fox for expressing something she might have learned?” (16:45)
- She also underscores how such openness could benefit younger generations navigating love and career.
6. 50 Cent’s Response
- [18:50] 50 Cent reacts online:
- Posts a photo of himself with a red pill/blue pill, implying control and referencing The Matrix.
- Caption: “Either way, I’ma have that ass in the Matrix. You know I love me some you, girl, but damn it’s been 22 years, Vivica.”
- Loren frames his response as performative, and notes how quick people are to attack women for reflecting on old relationships—even decades later.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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Vivica A. Fox (on regret and resilience):
“It took me years to be able to laugh about it. Right, right? I had to learn to laugh, not to cry no more. But I did it.” (04:28) -
Vivica A. Fox (on learning from public scrutiny):
“There was a time where everyone was more concerned about my love life and things on the blogs than my talent. I learned that that was my mistake." (08:10) -
Loren LaRosa (on double standards):
“If you’re a man and you’re seen out…dating a person or whatever, multiple different people, it just doesn’t stick the same. And I think people don’t understand that, period…What is thrown on your name and your reputation when it comes to dating...sticks way harder than it does any man in any similar situation.” (15:00 – 15:42) -
Loren LaRosa (on women’s right to share their stories):
“Can we date? Can we learn? Can we grow? Can we use it to teach the next generation of young girls coming up about, hey, this is what you should not do or nah, y’all let me know.” (22:44)
Important Timestamps
- [04:13] Vivica Fox’s viral comment at Women’s Expo ("Don’t date 50 Cent…")
- [07:15–09:11] Fox’s in-depth reflection on her career, public image, and reinvention after scrutiny
- [14:09–22:48] Loren’s monologue on sexism, societal perceptions, and defending women’s voices
- [18:50] 50 Cent’s jokey social media response
Tone & Takeaways
The episode is candid, conversational, and deeply self-aware—Loren LaRosa mixes pop-culture savvy with social commentary. She supports Vivica Fox’s agency over her own story, uses humor and honesty to deconstruct stereotypes, and challenges listeners to question why women’s journeys are so fiercely policed. The show ultimately calls for empathy, space for growth, and the radical idea that women in the spotlight should own their histories without shame or ridicule.
