Vivica Fox talks 50 Cent and the internet has OPINIONS!

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Podcast Summary: The Latest with Loren LoRosa

Episode: Vivica Fox talks 50 Cent and the internet has OPINIONS!
Date: November 12, 2025
Host: Loren LaRosa
Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on the explosive viral moment when actress Vivica A. Fox candidly reflected on her past relationship with rapper 50 Cent at a Women's Expo, igniting widespread online debate. Loren LaRosa digs into the nuance behind Fox’s comments, examines cultural double standards on women and dating in the spotlight, and draws on her past interview with Fox to deepen the conversation about how public relationships can shape a woman’s career and legacy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vivica Fox’s Viral Advice: “Don’t Date 50 Cent”

• [04:13] Fox, at a Women's Expo in New Jersey, is asked what she’d tell her 17-year-old self. Her blunt answer:
  Vivica A. Fox: “Don’t date 50 Cent and don’t date no damn—”
• The internet erupts, with two camps forming: some believe Vivica is stuck on the past, while others defend her right to reflect on choices and their professional consequences.

2. Public Perception & Double Standards in Celebrity Dating

• [04:41 – 07:10] Loren discusses the online reaction, emphasizing that Vivica was a Hollywood “It Girl,” not just “50 Cent’s ex.”
  • She breaks down the double standard in how women's past romances overshadow their careers, especially in media narratives.
  • Highlights that men in similar scenarios aren’t branded the same way.

3. Revisiting Loren’s Past Interview with Vivica Fox

• [07:15 – 09:11] Loren revisits her 2023 interview with Vivica Fox, then nominated for her work on “The Tonisha Welch Story.”
  • Fox reflects on how public focus on her love life—more than her talent—hurt her image.
    • Vivica A. Fox: "There was a time where everyone was more concerned about my love life and things on the blogs than my talent. I learned that that was my mistake." (08:10)
  • Fox takes “huge accountability,” admitting she left herself exposed and had to “rebrand” herself through serious theater roles.
    • Vivica A. Fox: "I take accountability for all my actions. When something happens in my career, in my life, I'm the first one to look in the mirror and go, wow, how and why did that happen?" (08:38)
    • She describes doing plays like "Cheaper to Keep Her" as a way to redefine her image (08:53).

4. Women’s Stories and the Right to Speak on Their Experiences

• [14:09 – 22:48] Loren unpacks enduring sexism in how women’s dating lives are scrutinized.
  • Uses Fox as an example but draws parallels to others, e.g. Tracee Ellis Ross and Taylor Swift, noting women are “dragged” for discussing exes, while for men, it’s framed as “healing.”
  • Brings up how Nick Cannon talks about Mariah Carey without being labeled “bitter.”
  • Loren LaRosa: “Why can’t women talk about what they’ve learned in relationships and it not be, well, damn... we’re bitter, we can’t move on? We only do it with women.” (17:38)
  • Challenges the expectation that women remain silent or embarrassed about learning from their romantic pasts.
  • Calls for more space for women to reflect, heal, and share wisdom without social penalty.

5. The Power & Pitfalls of Owning the Narrative

• Loren emphasizes Vivica Fox’s “right” to talk about her own life and decisions.
  • Loren LaRosa: “…that is her business to be able to do. So you got people out here… why are y’all mad at Vivica Fox for expressing something she might have learned?” (16:45)
• She also underscores how such openness could benefit younger generations navigating love and career.

6. 50 Cent’s Response

• [18:50] 50 Cent reacts online:
  • Posts a photo of himself with a red pill/blue pill, implying control and referencing The Matrix.
  • Caption: “Either way, I’ma have that ass in the Matrix. You know I love me some you, girl, but damn it’s been 22 years, Vivica.”
• Loren frames his response as performative, and notes how quick people are to attack women for reflecting on old relationships—even decades later.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Vivica A. Fox (on regret and resilience):
  “It took me years to be able to laugh about it. Right, right? I had to learn to laugh, not to cry no more. But I did it.” (04:28)

• Vivica A. Fox (on learning from public scrutiny):
  “There was a time where everyone was more concerned about my love life and things on the blogs than my talent. I learned that that was my mistake." (08:10)

• Loren LaRosa (on double standards):
  “If you’re a man and you’re seen out…dating a person or whatever, multiple different people, it just doesn’t stick the same. And I think people don’t understand that, period…What is thrown on your name and your reputation when it comes to dating...sticks way harder than it does any man in any similar situation.” (15:00 – 15:42)

• Loren LaRosa (on women’s right to share their stories):
  “Can we date? Can we learn? Can we grow? Can we use it to teach the next generation of young girls coming up about, hey, this is what you should not do or nah, y’all let me know.” (22:44)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:13] Vivica Fox’s viral comment at Women’s Expo ("Don’t date 50 Cent…")
• [07:15–09:11] Fox’s in-depth reflection on her career, public image, and reinvention after scrutiny
• [14:09–22:48] Loren’s monologue on sexism, societal perceptions, and defending women’s voices
• [18:50] 50 Cent’s jokey social media response

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is candid, conversational, and deeply self-aware—Loren LaRosa mixes pop-culture savvy with social commentary. She supports Vivica Fox’s agency over her own story, uses humor and honesty to deconstruct stereotypes, and challenges listeners to question why women’s journeys are so fiercely policed. The show ultimately calls for empathy, space for growth, and the radical idea that women in the spotlight should own their histories without shame or ridicule.

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Transcript

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I'm the home girl that knows a little bit about everything and everybody. You know, she don't lie about that, right? Lauren came in hot. Hey, y', all, what's up? It's Lauren LaRosa. And this is the latest with Lauren LaRosa. This is your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room, baby. Now today are going to get into a conversation that I'm always down to have conversations about stereotypes. And I am always down to have conversations about stereotypes when it comes to male and female. Because, I mean, and it's not even like a feminist movement thing, because I don't consider myself a feminist. There's a lot of things with feminist movement ways that I don't agree with. However, I always like opportunities to call out bullshit. So Viva Fox was at a woman's expo in New Jersey and she was asked what would she say to her 17 year old self? Like, what is some advice for people that are young trying to get into this? And here is what she had to say.

[Vivica A. Fox]

Don't date 50 Cent and don't date no damn.

[Lauren LaRosa]

Thanks. Yes. See, I have to quit. Just so you know, it took me years to be able to laugh about it. Right, Right. I had to learn to laugh, not.

[Vivica A. Fox]

To cry no more.

[Lauren LaRosa]

But I did it. Now, of course, it's Vivica fox. She's mentioning 50 Cent. Don't date rappers, don't date 50 Cent. All the workings and all the things are there to get the people going. And that is exactly what happened because, oh, baby, the people have been online arguing for the past week. Here's the argument. Is Vivica Fox just this person who, you know, had this relationship with 50 Cent, both stars at the time that just can't let it go because 50 cent is 50 cent and who he is and all of the things. Right? But let us not forget Ms. Vivica A. Fox, the girl Vivica A. Like, let us not forget who Vivica Fox was at the time when she was dating 50 Cent and who she still is today. Right? So there's that conversation that people are having and then there's the conversation of, well, what's wrong with her saying that she would have not have wanted to have dated a rapper or honestly, when you dig deeper into the conversation, just make it her dating life, a part of her career. I want to get into this conversation now. Some time ago, about a few years ago, back in 2023, I sat down with Vivica Fox. We were having a conversation about her NAACP Image Award nomination at the time for the Tonisha Welch story, which is another version of BMF story. You guys know 50 Cent was doing the BMF series, which was recently announced that, you know, this would be their last season. It's canceled, it's not coming back, but y so Tanisha Welch story. Vivica A. Fox, you know, was in the producer, director's chair of that, and they were nominated for Image Award. So we're talking. And what I realized in preparing for the conversation, the sit down that I had with Vivica A. Fox, was that I don't think a lot of people, especially if you're of a certain age and younger, really understand the way Vivica Fox was the girl. I mean, everywhere you looked, every big name projects, Hollywood, big studio films, everywhere you look, she was the girl. And not only talent wise and what she was booking, but I just mean beauty and, you know, essence of like black woman in Hollywood and just the sex appeal and the power and all of the things. And I think a lot of that oozed into the roles that she decided to take. But I also learned in this conversation with Vivica Fox that this very thing that people love to go back and forth with her about whether it's her right to talk about how her dating history affected and or did not her career is rightfully hers to talk about and how it has actually affected. It's like people wanna see the back and forth because I guess it's entertaining. People wanna criticize the back and forth. But I don't think people ever take the time to stop and think about, well, was she really affected by that relationship? Is that why this has become a permanent part of her story? Vivica Fox tells me in the sit down interview that we did that if she could take back a lot of things or just conversations, it would be the fact that people only knew her for the girlfriend or the sexy roles. Let's take a listen to this interview I did some time ago with Vivica Fox.

[Vivica A. Fox]

There was a time where everyone was more concerned about my love life and things on the blogs and than my talent. I learned that that was my mistake. You know, I learned to Keep things a little bit more privately. That was because I opened myself up. So what I had to do was accept responsibility for that. I'm a huge per. A huge accountability person. I take accountability for all my actions. When something happens in my career, in my life, I'm the first one to look in the mirror and go, wow, how and why did that happen? And what.

[Lauren LaRosa]

What part did I play?

[Vivica A. Fox]

So I had to go and reinvent myself. I had to go to the theater and start playing roles where my character got broken down in there. I wasn't Miss Fabulous One all dressed up. My husband cheated on me. I did a play cheaper to keep her with Brian McKnight. And I went and I did theater for two years. And when I say theater, we were on the road doing plays. I was reintroducing my brand and myself as an actress to my audience.

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And I think, you know, in looking at this, and I did try and reach out and have a new refreshed conversation around this with Vivica Fox, to no avail. Um, but I think in. In. In, you know, having the conversation I had with her and seeing the way that people reacted, you know, to her, even in her mentioning this conversation, I do remember there was a time where Vivica Fox, you know, and 50 were going back and forth, you know, the thing they were doing amongst their shows. And 50 Cent's girlfriend at the time, Cuba Link, had got involved, and, you know, she said some things that weren't too flattering of Vivica Fox. And the world quickly reminded Cuban Link and everybody else that thought that, you know, those comments were cute. You cannot play with Hollywood royalty. Black television, black movie, black it girl royalty, which is what Vivica Fox is. So when I see people have conversations about the fact that she's expressing herself and what this relationship meant to her, didn't mean, did to her, I'm like, y', all, that is her business to be able to do. So you got people out here. And this is the thing, too, that bothers me. Like, I feel like when it comes to women, when we have conversations about relationships in our. Our, you know, what we demand in relationship, not even what we demand, but, like, just what we want in relationships, what we don't want in relationships, how relationships have affected us, depending on the person and depending on how we talk about it, we're dragged. Like, we are not allowed to be these, like, women needs these people, these beings that are just out here figuring things out, dating, learning what we like, what we don't like. Like, think about the fact that, like, right now as take any woman in Hollywood, any single woman in Hollywood right now, let's take Trace Ellis Ross, for example, Tracee Ellis Ross has talked a lot about, you know, being single, you know, not having kids and enjoying her life at this point without all of the things in dating. Right. She's also talked about deciding to keep her business to herself when it comes to dating. And I know a lot of women that do this, especially industry wise or if they, you know, they're influencers, they have a little buzz or whatever the case may be. Right. Because as a woman, you don't get the ability to date a man. Experience that, learn from it, dislike it, talk about it, use it in any type of creative. Taylor Swift is dragged every time she writes about an ex. Summer Walker gets dragged every time she talks or writes about an ex. And, you know, and granted, I'm not saying that every woman and every decision that they're making with the men that they're dating are great decisions. That is not the argument here. What I'm saying is, is who are we to tell these women that they can't make them decisions and can't do that? If Tracee Ellis Ross today were to go out on a date in public and be seen with somebody, even if the date is just her casually getting to know somebody, she is now marked by that person that she was seen with. And literally, it could have just been like a coffee date. But if you're a man and you're seen out and you're, you know, dating a person or whatever, multiple different people, it just doesn't stick the same. And I think people don't understand that, period. I think if you're a woman who is not in a certain space, which is crazy to me because I feel like you don't got to be famous to understand that as a woman, you know, your account is your count. What is, what is, what is thrown on your name and your reputation when it comes to dating, when it comes to men, when it comes to, you know, all of that sticks way harder than it does any man in any similar situation. But especially with women in the spotlight, I think we give them such a hard time about these decisions that they're making and their reactions to the decisions and how they handle them. When it's like, it could have really been a situation that, like, really stopped, you know, things in her. As she said, she had to go back and rebuild her career after taking on certain roles and being the sexy girl and the girlfriend and, you know, being spotted with all of the guys. And that's just a thing. Why are y' all mad at Vivica Fox for expressing Something she might have learned. Maybe she had to learn. Yo, you don't want the big name celebrity rapper. You don't, because it overshadows your work. It overshadows, you know, your own career. It overshadows all of the hard work you put into things. Like, why is that an issue? We only do it with women. If a man were to come out and say, for instance, Nick Cannon is a perfect example. And Nick Cannon, not everybody loves his commentary when he talks about Mariah Carey. I think every now and then he does get that, oh, here you go again. But at the same time, Nick Cannon is allowed to have conversations about his experiences in dating Mariah Carey, who was a, you know, super. I mean, in the canon, it was Nick Cannon, but it's Mariah Carey at the time, right? He gets to talk about that. He gets to talk about how it. It really messed with his ego. He gets to talk about the fact that he had to take a step back and really take a look in and say, hey, why did that bother me? Why was I so challenged in that relationship as a man? Like, why did her status and the things that she's accomplished, you know, make me feel lesser than or make me feel like I had to poke my chest out in certain situations? And then our relationship didn't work. We call these conversations healing. And, you know, he's tapping in with himself and he's maturing, but when a woman does it, oh, Lord, here she go again talking about that relationship. She can't get over that man. And I'm here for the back and forth. You know, it's entertaining because, you know, the minute 50 cent is mentioned, you know, he is coming. And he had similar, you know, sentiments than, like, what I saw online. So 50 Cent posted a photo of himself with the red pill, blue pill. And in the photo, the caption says, either way, I'mma have that ass in the Matrix. You know, I love me some you, girl, but Damn, it's been 22 years, Vivica. Question for the audience, question for the people in the room. Why can't women talk about what they've learned in relationships and it not be, well, damn. Still, honestly, I feel like anytime a woman is talking about anything relationship wise, especially something that has turned her off, she doesn't like. She has had to learn from her. She's had to move on. We are either difficult, we're bitter, we're stuck on past situations. We. We want too much, our expectations are too high or just unrealistic, or we don't know how to, like, create a safe space for a man to be, like, vulnerable and all these things because we don't want to settle for certain things. And maybe this is the woman in me speaking. Am I being biased? I want to hear from the men as well. How do y' all feel? Do you feel like as a man? Because I know sometimes men get called sassy, but most of the time it's the men with the podcast mics. And let's be honest, a lot of them do be a little sassy, a little seasoned, little sass owned. But men, do y' all feel like you guys are able to have open conversations about what you've learned in relationships, how you've learned it, what you've liked, what you did not like, and how is it proceed? Because I feel like when I'm watching men do it both in a, you know, very open, big entertainment industry or just even on podcasts or online, women love hearing an evolved king. Yes. Men love seeing men in spaces, being able to express themselves, because according to you guys, women don't allow you to space to. But the minute we do it, I'mma get chewed up for this video. The minute we do it, we are bitter. We can't move on. Oh, they love to say we don't know our worth because we're, we're, you know, we don't want to be here. We're figuring it out there. Like, don't have dated around. And I don't mean like you out here just throwing it in, throwing it in a circle for everybody. I mean, like, you are honestly a single woman who has decided to be single until you figure out what it is that you want. So you're dating and experiencing different people. Then you fatherless, you a hoe. You don't know. It's just, I don't understand, like, what are we supposed to do? Like, can we date? Can we learn? Can we grow? Can we use it to teach the next generation of young girls coming up about, hey, this is what you should not do or nah, y' all let me know.

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[Katie Couric]

Oh.

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[Graves County Podcast Narrator]

The murder of an 18 year old girl in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Lauren LaRosa]

America, y' all better wake the hell up.

[Big Long]

Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Graves County Podcast Narrator]

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[Lauren LaRosa]

This is an iHeart podcast.