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A (0:00)
My next book, the Price of Becoming, will be out in a few months, available for pre order right now at learningleader.com, but in the meantime, I've been sending it to authors that I really look up to. A lot of them have been on this podcast. One of them is Daniel Pink, best selling author of To Sell as Human, Drive, Win, the Power of Regret and many others. Just asked him what he thought, asked him if he'd write a blurb, an endorsement for the book, maybe one that I would put on the COVID and this is what he sent back to me. Dan Pink says the Price of Becoming refuses to sell you a shortcut. Instead, Ryan shows how small daily deposits, 100 shots, 500 words, a single tough conversation compound into something that looks like an overnight success to anyone who wasn't paying attention. This is a clear eyed, powerful book. I'm super grateful for people like Dan Pink to have read it and shared his thoughts. I would love it if you would go to learningleader.com and pre order the book right now or just go straight to Amazon and pre order the Price of Becoming. Thank you so much. Welcome to the Learning Leader show presented by Insight Global. I am your host, Ryan Hawk. Thank you so much for being here. Go to learningleader.com for show notes of this and all podcast episodes go to learningleader.com now on to the night's featured leader. David Epstein is the author of the Sports Gene and Range, which spent years on the New York Times bestseller list. Before writing books, he was an investigative reporter at ProPublica and a senior writer at Sports oh Illustrated. His new book is called Inside the How Constraints Make Us Better. During our conversation, we discussed why leaders should be regularly teaching others. Then the problem with too much autonomy and how David learned this the hard way. Then why the phrase how you do everything is how you do anything is completely wrong. We talk about that and so much more. Ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy my conversation with David Epstein. David, man, it is awesome to have you back on the Learning Leaders show.
B (2:30)
Welcome. Thanks so much for having me again. It's a pleasure to be back. Wish I wrote books more often so I could come more often.
A (2:36)
Hey, we don't have to wait for a book next time, all right?
B (2:38)
Okay.
A (2:39)
It's funny, you know, speaking of books. So I sent my recent book that's not out yet, comes out in July to 50 people and a handful of those people to get book blurbs. The other people I sent it back to give me feedback and you gave me one of the most valuable Pieces of feedback. Just this week, you pointed out a factual error. Not a typo or anything like that. Those are easy to find, but a factual error, and made me completely rethink it and then change it. And it's being updated as we speak. So that's one of the most kind and generous things that a person could do. And I didn't ask you for that. I just asked you for a blurb. And yet you went above and beyond. So I just wanted to publicly say thank you for that. That was super, super kind of you to do.
