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This week’s guest is Ross Nesdale, currently working as a real estate agent in the competitive property market of Sydney but who made travelled across the world in his early 20s to make his name as professional rugby player, playing international rugby for Ireland and then coaching the most famous rugby team in the world, the NZ All Blacks.

But Ross’s career story is more than just about rugby, and now in his 50s he talks with passion and excitement about the opportunity of still having at least one or two more career adventures up his sleeve.

Themes that emerge from my conversations with Ross:

* a combination of curiosity and courage to keep learning and growing can create colourful career chapters - Ross is still testing himself now he in his 50s, following passions and finding ways to keep having career adventures.

* leveraging a number of standout strengths that Ross leveraged from an early age, honed during rugby but that continue to serve him in his career today

* consistently creating opportunities for himself by putting himself out there and asking people to give him a chance to have a crack at doing something different