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Emily
Welcome back to the Messy Podcast. For those of you who are new here, you can always head over to themessypodcast.com for how to support us through a membership. And also check out some of our other deep dives, like we have on books, on Netflix series, even some biography discussions.
James
Yeah, we've covered a lot of ground.
Emily
We really have. But today we are continuing with season three.
James
Ooh, season three.
Emily
It's you, relationships and the let them theory.
James
I love this.
Emily
And this is episode eight.
James
I. Okay.
Emily
Choosing the love you deserve. Let them show you who they are.
James
That title's so good.
Emily
It really is. And this is about recognizing that, you know, you have the power to choose the kind of love that you want in your life.
James
Absolutely. And it's something that so many people struggle with.
Emily
Totally. Because so much of the advice that we get out there is about, you know, how to attract someone, how to make them like you.
James
Right. Like you're trying to convince them.
Emily
Yeah. And this let them theory really flips the script.
James
It does.
Emily
It's about letting go of the need for control and instead allowing people to reveal their true feelings through their actions.
James
Because at the end of the day, actions speak louder than words.
Emily
They do. You can say all the right things, but if your behavior doesn't match up, it's just going to create confusion.
James
Totally. And lead to disappointment.
Emily
For sure.
James
Yeah.
Emily
And you know, speaking of confusion, the source material that we're diving into today poses this really interesting question.
James
Okay.
Emily
What are the very last words you want someone to say to you?
James
Oh, that is a great question.
Emily
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Emily
Thanks for listening to that. Let's jump back into it, which is.
James
Such a simple phrase, but it holds so much weight.
Emily
It does.
James
And I think what's powerful about that question is that it forces us to confront what we truly desire in a relationship. It's not just about finding someone who will say those words to you, but finding someone who embodies them through their actions.
Emily
Yes. Consistently, authentically.
James
Yes, exactly.
Emily
So how do we actually put this let them theory into practice? Especially like in the confusing world of dating?
James
Oh, my gosh. It's so easy to get caught up in the excitement of a new connection and overlook those early warning signs.
Emily
Totally. Our brains are wired to seek connection.
James
Yes.
Emily
And so often that can just cloud our judgment.
James
It can.
Emily
Especially those initial stages of dating.
James
Yeah. And we find ourselves making excuses for someone's bad behavior or convincing ourselves that their feelings are stronger than they actually are.
Emily
Yeah.
James
So that's where the let them theory comes in as a tool for discerning who is truly worthy of your time and energy.
Emily
Okay, so how does it actually work?
James
So the core principle is this. Instead of trying to decipher someone's words or intentions, simply observe their behavior. Ask yourself, are they consistent in their actions? Do they follow through on their promises?
Emily
Okay.
James
Do they make an effort to see you and prioritize spending time with you?
Emily
So instead of getting caught up in all the what ifs and the maybes, we're looking for concrete evidence of their feelings.
James
Yes.
Emily
It's about focusing on what they do, not just what they say.
James
Exactly.
Emily
And that is a very empowering shift in perspective.
James
It is.
Emily
It takes the pressure off of you to decode mixed signals or, you know, win someone over. You're just creating the space for them to show you who they really are.
James
And that can be incredibly revealing.
Emily
Yeah. Because if someone is genuinely interested, they will make the effort.
James
They will.
Emily
They won't leave you hanging or wondering where you stand.
James
Exactly. And if you find yourself constantly questioning their intentions or making excuses for their lack of effort, that's a major red flag.
Emily
It is a sign that they might not be as invested as you are.
James
And that's valuable information.
Emily
It allows you to make a conscious choice about whether or not to continue investing in this connection.
James
Yes. Or to move on to someone who is more aligned with your values and desires.
Emily
I love that this all makes so much sense logically.
James
Right.
Emily
But I think it can be challenging to actually put it into practice.
James
Oh, absolutely.
Emily
Especially when our emotions are involved.
James
It's one thing to understand it intellectually.
Emily
Yeah.
James
But it's another to actually implement it when you're dealing with real life feelings and potential heartbreak.
Emily
Totally.
James
So this is where the let me part of the theory comes into play.
Emily
Tell me more about this let me drop.
James
So it's about shifting the focus inward and recognizing that you have the power to choose how you respond to situations. You can choose to stay in a situation that isn't serving you, or you can choose to walk away. You can choose to make excuses for someone's behavior, or you can choose to hold them accountable. And most importantly, you can choose to prioritize your own well being and happiness.
Emily
It's about reclaiming your power in the situation.
James
Yes.
Emily
Rather than giving it away to someone else.
James
Exactly. And it's about recognizing that your worth is not determined by someone else's choices. You are inherently worthy of love and respect, regardless of whether or not someone else sees that.
Emily
Hang tight. We'll be back right after this short break.
James
See you in a sec.
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Emily
Thanks for waiting. Let's pick up where we left off. That's such a powerful reminder.
James
It is. And it's a message that I think a lot of people need to hear.
Emily
Totally. Especially in the confusing world of dating.
James
We can get so caught up in seeking validation from others that we forget to validate ourselves.
Emily
Now how do we start to cultivate that sense of self validation? How do we break free from the need to chase after love and instead choose it consciously?
James
That's a great question and one that we will explore further as we continue our deep dive.
Emily
Awesome.
James
But for now, I think it's important to just sit with this idea of letting go of control and allowing people to reveal themselves through their actions. Observe, reflect, and most importantly, trust your gut instincts.
Emily
I love that.
James
You know we were talking about like observing behavior and how revealing that can be.
Emily
Yeah, it's like A secret decoder ring for relationships.
James
It really is. And the source material really emphasizes this idea of letting them reveal themselves through their actions.
Emily
Okay.
James
Even when it's uncomfortable.
Emily
So it's not about ignoring red flags, but actually, like, leaning into them.
James
Exactly. And the source uses this really powerful phrase, let them not text you back. Let them make promises when they are drunk. Let them leave abruptly in the morning and never follow up on I'd love to see you again. Let them confuse you, infuriate you, and send mixed signals.
Emily
Wow. That's almost counterintuitive to how we're usually told to approach dating. Like, isn't the goal to avoid all of those negative experiences?
James
The goal is to find a healthy, fulfilling relationship.
Emily
Yeah.
James
And sometimes that means confronting uncomfortable truths early on. Letting someone fully reveal themselves.
Emily
Yeah.
James
Even in those less flattering moments, you're getting a clearer picture of who they truly are.
Emily
Yeah. It's like taking off the rose colored glasses and seeing things for what they are.
James
Exactly. Choosing clarity over fantasy. And sometimes that clarity can be painful, but ultimately it's empowering. It allows you to make informed decisions about who you want to invest in.
Emily
Yeah. So it's not about being passive and just accepting whatever comes your way, but rather using those observations to make conscious choices.
James
Exactly. You are in the driver's seat. You have the power to decide what kind of behavior you're willing to tolerate.
Emily
Yes.
James
And what kind of relationship you want to build.
Emily
That reminds me of a point the Source makes about the difference between chasing and choosing love. It's so easy to fall into that trap of chasing after someone.
James
Oh my gosh. It's so real.
Emily
Who isn't reciprocating our feelings?
James
I think social media has amplified this tendency.
Emily
Oh, yeah.
James
To chase potential rather than focus on genuine connection.
Emily
Totally.
James
Like, we're so caught up in curating the perfect image.
Emily
Yeah.
James
Chasing after likes and validation.
Emily
It's like we're constantly trying to prove our worthiness.
James
Yes.
Emily
Instead of recognizing that it's already there.
James
Exactly. And that's where the let me aspect of the theory becomes crucial.
Emily
Okay.
James
It's about taking a step back and asking yourself, what do I need? What do I deserve? What kind of love do I want to invite into my life?
Emily
So it's about shifting the focus from external validation to internal validation.
James
Yes, exactly. Recognizing that your worth is not determined by someone else's opinion or choice. You are worthy of love simply because you exist.
Emily
That is such a profound concept.
James
It is.
Emily
But I think it can be difficult to really embrace that.
James
Oh, for sure.
Emily
We are so conditioned to seek approval and validation from others.
James
Yes.
Emily
Especially in romantic relationships.
James
Absolutely.
Emily
But the source material really challenges us to break free from those limiting beliefs.
James
It does.
Emily
And to step into our power.
James
Yes.
Emily
It encourages us to. Let me remind myself that I don't want to be dating someone who is not choosing me back.
James
Right.
Emily
That is such a powerful affirmation.
James
It is.
Emily
It's about recognizing that you deserve to be with someone who's just as excited about you as you are about them.
James
Exactly. And that excitement should be evident in their actions, not just their words.
Emily
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Emily
Thanks for staying with us. So how do we start to shift our mindset from chasing to choosing Right? Because it's one thing to understand this conceptually, but how do we actually put it into practice?
James
It requires a combination of self awareness, boundary setting, and a willingness to challenge our own patterns and beliefs.
Emily
I like that. Okay, so let's unpack those ideas a bit. Okay, so first, self awareness. What does that look like in the context of the let them theory?
James
So self awareness in this context is about paying attention to your own thoughts, feelings and behaviors in relationships. It's about recognizing when you're starting to chase after someone who isn't reciprocating your feelings when you're making excuses for their bad behavior. It's about being honest with yourself about your needs and desires and not settling for less than you deserve.
Emily
It's like shining a light on those subconscious patterns that might be holding us back from experiencing the kind of love we truly desire.
James
Exactly. Bringing those patterns into conscious awareness so we can start to make different Choices.
Emily
Okay.
James
And that brings us to the next piece, which is boundary setting.
Emily
I am intrigued by this idea of boundaries, especially in dating.
James
Yes.
Emily
Because it feels like we're often told to be so accommodating and flexible. Right. Which can sometimes lead to compromising our own needs and values.
James
Absolutely. And that's why setting healthy boundaries is so crucial.
Dave
Okay.
James
It's about defining what's acceptable and unacceptable to you in a relationship and communicating those boundaries clearly and assertively.
Emily
So it's not about being rigid or inflexible.
James
Right.
Emily
But it's about honoring your own needs and values.
James
Exactly. And when you set healthy boundaries, you're essentially saying, this is who I am, These are my values, and this is how I expect to be treated.
Emily
Yeah.
James
And when you're clear about your boundaries, it becomes much easier to discern who is truly compatible with you and who is not.
Emily
So self awareness helps us identify our needs and values.
James
Yes.
Emily
And boundary setting helps us protect them.
James
Exactly. And when we combine those two elements with a willingness to challenge our own patterns and beliefs, that's where the real transformation begins.
Emily
I love that. It's about taking ownership of our own happiness and creating the kind of love we want to experience and recognizing that.
James
We have a choice.
Emily
Yeah.
James
We can stay stuck in those unhealthy patterns, or we can choose to break free and create something new.
Emily
It's so important, I think, for our listeners to hear that. Like, we have the power to choose the love that we deserve.
James
Absolutely. And that choice begins with letting go of control, observing behavior and trusting our intuition.
Emily
Yeah.
James
It's about letting them show us who they are and then deciding whether or not we want to be a part of their story.
Emily
Okay. So we've been talking about letting go of control and setting those boundaries and choosing love consciously.
James
But what happens when we've done all of that?
Emily
Yeah.
James
And we're still left with those hurt feelings.
Ethan
Yeah.
Emily
Like, how do we navigate that aftermath of heartbreak?
James
That's the tough part, isn't it?
Emily
Yeah. It's like we ripped off the band aid.
James
Right.
Emily
But the wound is still so raw.
James
Yeah. And the source acknowledges that heartbreak is a natural part of the human experience. You can't shield yourself from it completely, but what we can do is choose how we respond to it.
Emily
So it's not about avoiding pain, but more about learning to navigate it in a healthy way.
James
Exactly. And that starts with self compassion.
Emily
So what does self compassion look like when we're talking about heartbreak?
James
So it's about treating yourself with the same kindness and Understanding that you would offer to a close friend going through a similar experience.
Emily
Okay, so instead of beating ourselves up for the choices that we made or dwelling on what we could have done differently, we're offering ourselves that gentle embrace.
James
Exactly. Recognizing that we're human, we make mistakes, and we're allowed to feel our emotions fully without judgment.
Emily
That is such a powerful shift in perspective.
James
It is.
Emily
It's like acknowledging the pain without letting it consume us. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right, we're back. Let's continue.
James
And the source reminds us that healing takes time.
Emily
Yeah.
James
There's no magic formula or a quick fix.
Emily
It's like recovering from an injury.
James
Yes.
Emily
You need to give yourself the time and the space to rest, to recover, and to rebuild.
James
And just like physical healing, emotional healing can involve those setbacks and moments of discomfort.
Emily
Yeah, for sure. But those setbacks don't mean that we're failing.
James
Right.
Emily
They're just part of the process.
James
And as we move through that process, it's important to focus on nourishing ourselves physically and emotionally.
Emily
So that might be, you know, spending time in nature.
James
Yeah.
Emily
Maybe engaging in activities that we enjoy. Or connecting with loved ones.
James
Exactly. Filling our cup with the things that bring us joy and support.
Emily
Okay, so as we start to heal, as we start to reconnect with ourselves.
James
Yeah.
Emily
How do we open ourselves up to the possibility of new love?
James
So the source suggests approaching dating with a sense of curiosity and playfulness, rather than approaching it with desperation or fear.
Emily
So shifting our mindset from seeking validation to simply enjoying the experience of connecting with others.
James
Exactly. And remember, every interaction, even the ones that don't lead to a romantic connection, can offer valuable lessons and insights.
Emily
Roll. It's like expanding our social circle and our perspectives on love and relationships.
James
Exactly. And the more we focus on our own growth and happiness, the more likely we are to attract someone who is genuinely aligned with our values and desires.
Emily
I like that. It's about radiating that inner confidence and self love that draws others in.
James
And remember, the let them theory doesn't end when you enter a relationship.
Emily
Oh, that's interesting. How does it apply? Once we're in a committed relationship, it's.
James
Still about observing behavior.
Emily
Okay.
James
Making conscious choices, communicating our needs clearly, setting healthy boundaries, and recognizing that even in the best relationships, there will be times when we need to step back and allow our partner the space to reveal themselves fully.
Emily
So it's an ongoing practice, a way of approaching relationships with intention and awareness.
James
Exactly. And the beauty of this approach is that it empowers us to create the kind of love we want to experience both within ourselves and with others.
Emily
So to wrap up this deep dive, we talked about the importance of letting go of control, allowing people to reveal themselves. We talked about the power of observation.
James
Boundary setting, choosing consciously.
Emily
Choosing love. Consciously.
James
Yeah.
Emily
Yes. And then we talked about, you know, the importance of self compassion and healing from heartbreak and approaching dating with that sense of curiosity and playfulness.
James
Ultimately, it's about empowering ourselves to create healthy, fulfilling relationships. Yes. Based on mutual respect, trust and authenticity.
Emily
And recognizing that we are worthy of love and we have the power to choose the kind of love that we want to invite into our lives.
James
Beautifully said. And for our listeners.
Emily
Yeah.
James
Remember this powerful message from the source. If they are not making an effort, they are not worth yours.
Emily
That's so good. Let those words sink in. Thank you for joining us for another deep dive. We'll see you next time.
Podcast Summary: The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins | The Messy Podcast (S3 EP8)
Title: Let Them Show You Who They Are
Host/Author: The Messy Podcast
Release Date: January 29, 2025
Introduction to the Episode
In Season 3, Episode 8 of The Messy Podcast, titled "Let Them Show You Who They Are," hosts Emily and James delve into Mel Robbins' transformative concept, "The Let Them Theory." This episode focuses on empowering listeners to choose the love they deserve by relinquishing control and observing genuine actions in relationships. The discussion aims to provide meaningful insights for those navigating the complexities of modern dating and relationships.
Understanding The Let Them Theory
The Let Them Theory challenges conventional dating advice that emphasizes attracting or convincing someone to like you. Instead, Robbins advocates for letting go of the need for control and allowing individuals to reveal their true selves through their actions.
Key Points:
Actions Over Words: The theory emphasizes that "actions speak louder than words," highlighting the importance of consistency between what someone says and how they behave. As Emily puts it, “You can say all the right things, but if your behavior doesn't match up, it's just going to create confusion” (Emily, 01:06).
Authentic Behavior: Genuine interest is demonstrated through consistent effort and prioritization, not mere declarations of love. James underscores, "They're making the effort and not leaving you hanging or wondering where you stand" (James, 03:58).
Notable Quote:
"What do I need? What do I deserve? What kind of love do I want to invite into my life?"
– James, 09:23
Implementing The Let Them Theory in Dating
Emily and James explore practical applications of the theory, particularly in the initial stages of dating where emotions can cloud judgment.
Key Points:
Observing Behavior: Instead of interpreting mixed signals, focus on observable behaviors such as consistency, follow-through on promises, and genuine effort to spend time together (James, 03:06).
Red Flags: Persistent doubts or making excuses for a partner’s lack of effort signal potential incompatibility (Emily, 03:58).
Notable Quote:
"It's like a secret decoder ring for relationships."
– Emily, 07:19
Shifting from Chasing to Choosing Love
The hosts discuss the importance of moving from seeking external validation to fostering internal self-worth.
Key Points:
Internal Validation: Recognizing that your worth isn’t tied to someone else’s approval. “You are worthy of love simply because you exist” (James, 09:18).
Boundary Setting: Establishing clear boundaries protects personal values and helps identify truly compatible partners (Emily, 12:43).
Notable Quote:
"We can stay stuck in those unhealthy patterns, or we can choose to break free and create something new."
– James, 13:55
Navigating Heartbreak and Healing
The episode addresses the emotional aftermath of ending relationships and the path to healing.
Key Points:
Self-Compassion: Treating oneself with kindness and understanding during heartbreak is crucial. “Instead of beating ourselves up for the choices that we made, we're offering ourselves that gentle embrace” (James, 15:04).
Healing Process: Acknowledging that healing takes time and involves setbacks, much like recovering from a physical injury (Emily, 15:44).
Notable Quote:
"It's not about avoiding pain, but more about learning to navigate it in a healthy way."
– James, 14:59
Applying The Theory in Committed Relationships
The conversation extends the application of The Let Them Theory beyond initial dating to long-term partnerships.
Key Points:
Ongoing Practice: Continuously observing behavior and making conscious choices to maintain healthy boundaries and mutual respect (James, 17:10).
Space and Intention: Allowing partners the space to reveal themselves fully, even within committed relationships, fosters trust and authenticity (James, 17:25).
Notable Quote:
"You are in the driver's seat. You have the power to decide what kind of behavior you're willing to tolerate."
– Emily, 08:46
Conclusion and Key Takeaways
In wrapping up the episode, Emily and James reiterate the core principles of The Let Them Theory and its impact on fostering healthy, fulfilling relationships.
Key Points:
Empowerment through Choice: Emphasizing that individuals have the power to choose the kind of love they deserve by letting go of control and observing genuine actions.
Self-Growth and Happiness: Focusing on personal growth and happiness attracts partners who align with one's values and desires (James, 17:10).
Final Notable Quote:
"If they are not making an effort, they are not worth yours."
– Emily, 18:43
Timestamp Reference Key:
By embracing The Let Them Theory, listeners are encouraged to prioritize self-awareness, set healthy boundaries, and make conscious choices in their relationships. This approach not only fosters personal growth but also attracts authentic connections based on mutual respect and genuine affection.
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