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The Lie That Binds
Hosted by NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation · EN
The Lie That Binds is a six-part series exploring the insidious history of how the anti-choice movement was built from scratch. Based on the bestselling book, each episode exposes a key piece of the anti-choice playbook and retraces how the Radical Right weaponized abortion in order to rig the political system in their favor
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Episode 6: The Way Out
Sep 1, 202000:56:46Tap to summarizeSeries Finale! Between COVID-19 and the Black Lives Matter protests against police brutality, a lot has changed in the world since NARAL started recording this podcast. But the Radical Right remains emboldened as the pandemic gives them another opportunity to create a new wedge issue: this time, the act of listening to scientists and public health experts. How do progressives defeat Radical Right extremists in 2020 and safeguard reproductive freedom for the long term? What is our 40-year plan? In this final episode, we talk about how to fight back in November and beyond. We are joined by Stacey Abrams (founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count), Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Loretta Ross (Author, Professor, and Reproductive Justice activist), Imani Gandy (Senior Editor Legal and Policy, Rewire.News, podcast host: Boom Lawyered), Angelo Carusone (President and CEO of Media Matters), Melissa Ryan (CEO of CARD Strategies and Editor of “Ctrl Alt-Right Delete”), Amanda Marcotte (Senior Politics Writer for Salon), Brianna Wu (Former 2020 Candidate for US House in Massachusetts) Pamela Merritt (Reproductive Justice activist)Based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford, director of research.
Transcribe →Episode 5: The Foot Soldiers
Aug 25, 202001:00:21Tap to summarizeThe Radical Right has always had a so-called “fringe” within their base. That fringe consistently wields violence and intimidation to silence their opponents. In the public eye, mainstream conservatives try to maintain distance from these bad actors -- but this week we reveal how in private, these same conservative leaders have actually supported, protected, and encouraged them every step of the way. From bombings at abortion clinics in the 1980s to the GamerGate controversy in the 2010s, the GOP has consistently fanned the flames of extremism. Whether we totally succumb to the inferno is up to progressives working together to combat the lies.David S. Cohen (Author of Obstacle Course: The Everyday Struggle to Get an Abortion in America), Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Angelo Carusone (President and CEO of Media Matters), Melissa Ryan (CEO of CARD Strategies and Editor of “Ctrl Alt-Right Delete”), Amanda Marcotte (Senior Politics Writer for Salon), Brianna Wu (Former 2020 Candidate for US House in Massachusetts)Based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford, director of research.
Transcribe →Episode 4: The Trap
Aug 18, 202000:59:18Tap to summarizeSince Trump took office, the Radical Right has taken complete control of the US court system, but he didn’t mastermind this himself. The conservative coalition-building that led to this takeover started decades earlier, with the birth of the right-wing extremist Federalist Society. Its members have been whispering in the ear of every conservative president since Reagan, and today, Trump has appointed a record-breaking 200+ of their most devoted judges to sit on our federal court and interpret our constitutional rights. In this episode, we examine where the Radical Right’s takeover of the U.S. court system fits into the Right’s overarching strategy to snuff out reproductive freedom, even if that means overriding what over 70 percent of voters want. We are joined by Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Wendy Davis (Candidate for Congress, TX-21) Imani Gandy (Senior Editor Legal and Policy, Rewire.News, podcast host: Boom Lawyered) Linda Greenhouse (Senior Research Scholar, Yale Law School), and Dahlia Lithwick (Senior Editor and Legal Correspondent for Slate; podcast host: Amicus) Vanita Gupta (Former head of USDOJ Civil Rights Division). For more information on our podcast contributors, visit: https://theliethatbinds.com/the-podcast/Based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford, director of research.
Transcribe →Episode 3: The Machine
Aug 11, 202000:51:13Tap to summarizeBelieve it or not, Trump isn’t the first misogynistic celebrity to move from television to the White House. In 1980, Ronald Reagan was used by the Radical Right as a proof of concept for the power of their newly formed coalition. 40 years later, the Radical Right again united behind a man whose name is synonymous with grotesque wealth and debauchery, this time armed with their self-proclaimed moral high ground. In this episode, we explore the parallels between the rise of these two anti-choice presidents, and the political machine that launched them both. We are joined by Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Pamela Merritt (Reproductive Justice activist), Imani Gandy (Senior Editor Legal and Policy, Rewire.News, podcast host: Boom Lawyered) Linda Greenhouse (Senior Research Scholar, Yale Law School), and Dahlia Lithwick (Senior Editor and Legal Correspondent for Slate; podcast host: Amicus). For more information on our podcast contributors, visit: https://theliethatbinds.com/the-podcast/Based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford, director of research.
Transcribe →Episode 2: The Tightrope
Aug 4, 202000:57:27Tap to summarizeAlternative facts, otherwise known as lies, aren’t a revolutionary idea. They’re a long term political strategy that the Radical Right set in motion decades ago in order to maintain white patriarchal control in a changing world. Today, their cronies have infiltrated the highest ranks of government, and their propaganda playbook is filled with pseudoscience and disinformation. In this episode, we unpack the Radical Right’s tactical narratives that have come to dominate language, talking points, and debate around abortion on both sides of the aisle. How were the Radical Right so successful at warping both their base and the mainstream talking points around their lies? Join us as we pull back the curtain on the man who started it all -- the Godfather of Anti-Choice Disinformation -- John Willke.We are joined by Stacey Abrams (founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count), Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Imani Gandy (Senior Editor Legal and Policy, Rewire.News, podcast host: Boom Lawyered) Loretta Ross (Author, Professor, and Reproductive Justice activist), Laura Bassett (political columnist at GQ), and Karen Mulhauser (former president of NARAL). For more information on our podcast contributors, visit: https://theliethatbinds.com/the-podcast/This series is based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford. To purchase the book, visit: https://theliethatbinds.com/
Transcribe →Episode 1: The Trojan Horse
Aug 4, 202000:51:19Tap to summarizeWhat do racism and the anti-choice movement have in common? EVERYTHING. It all started with a Supreme Court decision, and not the one you’re thinking of. In our first episode, we dig down to the real roots of the movement -- another case decided 20 years earlier, Brown v. Board of Education. This is the story of the early leaders of the Radical Right who tapped into segregationist racism to transform Evangelicals into a terrifying political coalition.We are joined by Stacey Abrams (founder of Fair Fight and Fair Count), Ilyse Hogue (President of NARAL), Ellie Langford (Director of Research at NARAL), Loretta Ross (Author, Professor, and Reproductive Justice activist), Linda Greenhouse (Senior Research Scholar, Yale Law School), and Karen Mulhauser (former president of NARAL)This series is based on the book “The Lie that Binds,” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford. To purchase the book, visit: https://theliethatbinds.com/
Transcribe →Official Trailer: The Lie That Binds
Jul 23, 202000:02:37Tap to summarizeComing Tuesday, August 4th from NARAL Pro-Choice America: The Lie that Binds, a 6-part podcast series that unpacks the terrifying rise of the anti-choice movement from its surprising roots in school segregation to the election of President Donald Trump. This critical series is for anyone wondering how abortion rights seem to be dwindling despite public opinion swaying strongly in favor of reproductive freedom. Based on the book “The Lie that Binds” by NARAL Pro-Choice America President, Ilyse Hogue, with Ellie Langford, director of research.
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