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You are listening to the Life Coach School podcast with BERCASTILLO, Episode number 527. Welcome to the Life Coach School podcast where it's all about real clients, real problems and real coaching. And now your host, master coach instructor, Brooke Castillo. Hey beautiful friends. So excited to talk to you. Today we are going to talk about the concept of narratives. And it's such a powerful, life changing process that I am also teaching for all the people who are in self coaching scholars. I'm also teaching a supplemental class workshop for this. Within scholars, I want to make sure that you understand there's two different types of narratives that I teach. One is a business concept that I teach in my entrepreneurial management class. And that's a completely different thing than personal narrative, which was what I'm going to teach about here. So a personal narrative is simply a story that we create about people or things that we think are true. And the most important narrative you're ever going to have is the narrative you have about yourself and the narrative you have about your life. And every single human has a narrative, has a story running in their head that creates their identity and sets them up for who they think they are. So it's kind of like when someone who the hell do you think you are? The narrative that you have about yourself is who you think you are. I've talked many times about the difference between an absolute truth and reality. A pure circumstance, something that exists in the world that's irrefutable and the interpretation we have of the world. And so many times the pain that we experience in this world, the frustration, the anxiety comes from not discerning between those two things. We actually think our narratives are the truth. We think our narratives about other people are actually absolute truths. And we think our narratives about ourselves are absolute truths and they're not. And in fact, many times those narratives, because they're unconsciously created, seem like we're just making observations when really we're just spinning stories, delusional stories about ourselves. When I start teaching these concepts to people and I start telling people like, you can change the way you think about yourself. You can change the narrative you have about yourself. You can change the way you see your life, a lot of people will say, oh, that's when you're being delusional. That's the opposite. That's when you're actually looking at the facts, looking at your life and deciding on purpose what is real, what you want to believe and how you want to live. And I don't think there's any more important skill for us to learn as humans as how to control our narratives. Because our narratives are just a big collection of thoughts that create all of our feelings, that determine our actions, that will ultimately create our legacy in this world. They'll create our impact in this world. And so if you don't know what your narrative is and you haven't looked at it consciously, and you haven't paid close attention to to what you want it to be, you will end up living your life as a ping pong ball thinking that the world is just punching you around, when really it's your own mind doing it. So let's start with some really basic history of our own selves. And if you buy into the idea that you have a narrative about your own life and that you're constantly telling a story about who you are, where did the ingredients for that story you're telling come from? Where did the plot come from, where did the characters come from, where did the interpretation and the journey come from? It all came from how you were socialized and what you were taught to believe and what you were told to believe about yourself. This all happens very unconsciously. When we're little. We're being told that that's a tree and that's a rock and this is how you are, right? And we don't know how to distinguish between what is actually that's useful to believe about ourselves and something that isn't. And God bless everyone who is socializing us, God bless everyone who's teaching us. They are doing it unconsciously as well. So if you don't have very thoughtful, self aware, psychologically trained, emotionally intelligent parents, which most of us don't and most of us aren't, then you're going to end up with a story that's probably pretty effed up about yourself, about the world, about other people. And you will feel trapped within that story, trapped within a life that you may not even realize is optional. So if you think about all stories the way that they're told, all papers narratives the way that they're written, there's usually an underlying theme or a thesis, something that is trying to be proven, something that's trying to be taught, some message that's trying to come across, some moral of the story, right? So when you look at your own life and you look at the story that you are telling about your own life, you have to take into account the thesis that you are building it around. What is the main belief that you have about yourself? What is the main moral of the story? What Is it that you think your life is for what you are, for who you are? And most of the time, most of us are not conscious of what this thesis is. But think about it. If everyone's spinning a narrative and one person's thesis is, I'm an extraordinary human being here to do amazing things, and another person's narrative is, I'm worthless and my life doesn't mean much, those two sentences, just one little collection of words for each person, will determine a completely different life. If you take the person that has the thesis that they're worthless and their life doesn't mean anything, and you replace it with the other person's thesis, their entire life will change immediately. Immediately. I know this to be true after 20 years of working with clients, 20 years of helping people change their narratives about themselves, change their thesis about who they are and what they're here to do and what they want their life to mean. This also applies to every single other person in your life that you have a story about. You have a story about your mother, you have a story about your father, you have a story about your best friend, about your partner, about your boss. All of those narratives are optional. You can decide what the story is. You're going to tell about each and every person in your life. And you don't even realize that you think you're just looking at someone. You think you're just observing their life. You think you're just taking, taking notes on what is. But really you're spinning a tale about someone based on a thesis that you have about them. And those narratives, the narratives you have about yourself, the narratives you have about your life, the narratives you have about all the other people in your life, including people you know and don't know, will determine the quality of your life. This is why you can have two people with very similar circumstances, have very different lives, very different experiences of those same experiences, because of the way that they're interpreting them and the way that they are concocting their story about the world, about themselves, and about other people. Have you ever noticed that there can be someone in your life that you absolutely adore, and there can be someone else who knows that person that doesn't like them at all? And it's, like, so puzzling for me. This has happened recently with a friend of mine who told me that someone had come up to her and told her that she was unkind and said, you know, you're not a kind person. And when she told me this, I was literally laughing hysterically. I was like, what? You're literally one of the kindest people I've ever met in my life. And everyone around you knows that. I can't believe that someone would ever say that to you. Now, who's right? We both have different narratives about this friend of mine, but who's right? Am I right? Or is the person who is saying she's unkind, right? We're defining her as a person. They didn't say that thing that you did was unkind. They said you're unkind as a person. And so if you have a thesis about someone that they're unkind, you will try and prove that thesis true. And you will look for all the areas where they are unkind, and you will look for all the examples that can be interpreted as unkind to prove that thesis. And you won't even realize that you're doing it. You will constantly be confirming your own bias that someone is unkind, or the other way that someone is kind. If I believe that someone's kind and they do something that could be perceived as unkind in my mind, it won't go along with the story that I have about them. And it'll create too much cognitive dissonance that I will reinterpret the thing as, oh, they're just having a bad day, or, oh, that they didn't really mean that, or, oh, they were just super frustrated. I will justify anything that doesn't go along with my narrative about them, and I will do it all unconsciously. It's crazy to think about. So you can see this really clearly in politics, this all or nothing thinking in politics, like, all good, all bad. And it's because of our cognitive bias to want to interpret things in a certain way. So one of the first steps, I think, to kind of understanding storytelling and narratives about ourselves, about other people, and about our lives, is to understand that any narrative that is black or white, that is all one or all the other, is probably not serving you right. It's probably completely off base, and it's not serving you, because most people in this world are a perfect combination of both, right? We're a perfect combination of positive and negative. We do a lot of great things and a lot of things that suck, right? And the most interesting stories, the most interesting people, are the ones that embrace their entire humanity. The part of them that is good, the part of them that is amazing, and also the part of them that isn't. And one of the most powerful things I've ever done through my work with clients is to help them embrace that life is 50 50. And that is a new narrative that many of them have decided to adopt. And it has changed their life completely. Because instead of constantly comparing their current life to a life that is quote, unquote, supposed to be happy and positive all of the time, which makes them feel terrible, they've been able to look at their life through a lens of, oh, life is supposed to be a balance of both. And when something negative happens, it doesn't mean that something's gone terribly wrong in the world. It's just the way of it. It's part of what it means to be alive. And that's the same that's true with you as a human. You are a combination of extraordinary things and a combination of very boring, silly, mundane things. You're so smart in so many areas and so dumb in others. You're so kind in some ways and actually kind of mean in others. And I really haven't met an exception to this rule. I've met people that try to be perfect, and in the trying to be perfect, they end up being very imperfect. And that's the beauty of it. The beauty is the balance of all of it. So what do you do with this information, knowing about these stories, these narratives that you're creating, that's creating the. The whole cinema that is your life and that you have so much more control over it than you ever possibly knew that you did. You're not just a pawn in someone else's game trying to figure out how the world works. You're actually the main character in your own story and you are the one writing it. This is fantastic news. And so I warn you about the 5050 thing, because a lot of times when people realize this power that they have in order to create the story of their life and to create the story of the people that are in their lives, they want to spend some toxic, positive story about how great they are and how great everyone else is and how happy everyone is all the time. And it's this sticky, sweet, hard to swallow, BS that actually is very boring and uninteresting. And so when you start approaching kind of uncovering what your narrative is, what most of you may find is that you say a lot of things and create a lot of things in your mind that just aren't useful, that are pretty negative and create a layer of negativity that isn't interesting. There's enough negativity in the world, enough negativity in our lives, enough balance of positive and negative that we don't need to be creating up Stories that were worthless. We don't need to be creating up stories that we're not good enough, that we're not talented enough, that we've wasted our lives, that we've made too many mistakes. It's just not useful. You don't have to try to create that part of it. It will happen naturally, by the way of living in this very challenging world that is a challenged world on purpose. That's the point of the human being. We have to know what we don't want. We have to have the contrast in order to know what we do want. So the first step is really to evaluate the story that you currently have about the other people in your life, about yourself. And I recommend that you do this just with a paragraph. We're going to be doing a workshop in scholars on this, but you just do a paragraph about yourself. What is the main thesis you have about yourself as a human? And what is the, you know, summary of yourself? And then what is the main thesis you have about life and your life in particular? And what is the summary of that? And then the main characters in your life, what is your story about them? And a lot of times when you go through and do this work, you realize why you feel awful all the time. Stories are negative, Stories are hurtful. Stories are not useful to living a life. That may be much better if you just hold a different narrative about yourself and about the people around you. And once you've done that, once you've kind of uncovered that, then you want to kind of decide and take some time to think about it. What is the story that you want to tell about yourself? And here are the components of what that story must include. It must be truthful to you. You can't make up a story about yourself that you don't believe because you will not feel that story. And if you won't feel it, you won't act on it. Won't make any sense. Right? You can't BS your own self. So you want to create a story that is based on what you believe are facts about you. And one of the ways to do this is, yes, make a list of all the things that are negative, but also make a list of the things that are positive. So be very difficult for some of you to really take a look at what you have that is of redeeming heroic value in your life. And then you write that thesis about who it is you are and want to be and what you want your legacy to be in your life and what you want your life to be. All about. A good way to think about this is if someone you loved were to write a short article about you in a magazine, a paragraph, what would you want them to include and to say and to notice about you? And even if they were going to write a really balanced article where they wrote about, you know, all your greatness and all of your shortcomings, what would be included and what would be the main thesis? What would be the main point of you having both of these? What point did that serve in your life and in the lives of the people around you? And then you just repeat that process for your life, and then you repeat that process for the other people in your life. And this is a time consuming exercise. It's a workshop, basically, that you'll do on yourself and on your life and all the people in your life. But it really can change everything. There's a lot of philosophies out there that talk about how powerful the two words I am are. I am capable, I am a woman, I am amazing, I am here to do good. Whatever comes after I am. And we can consider that I am maybe your thesis statement about your life. What is the overall summary statement that you can say about you? And if you believe something like, I am an extraordinary human being, right, what comes up for you? And extraordinary can mean both positive and negative things, useful things and not useful things, interesting things, shortcomings, all of it. So many times when I'm coaching people, you all come to me and you're in so much shame over your humanness. You're in shame that you lost your temper. You're in shame that you lied. You're in shame that you were lazy and that you procrastinated. You're in shame that you went behind someone back and did something you, you know, gossiped about something, did something wrong, quote, unquote. And I'm often really trying to just remind you that that's part of it, right? That's part of human beingness. And there's a lot of stories out there that are being told that we should be good all of the time and that good people are good people all the time and that successful people are successful people all the time. And it's a nonsense. It's all just nonsense. And so I want to dissuade you from trying to write a narrative that feeds into idea that you have to be a saint or that you even should try to do that, but that you might want to look at your life and say, okay, I'm a human being living in a half and half world. And I'm a half and half positive and negative balanced human. And I have all the good and all the bad that comes from being a human being. And I live in the world that is full of humans that are half good and half bad in some ways. And so how do we reconcile that to the degree that we can, to live a life that we can settle into and be comfortable with, that we're not constantly comparing to some idealized perfection, but we're also not beating ourselves up consciously and maybe even unconsciously in a way that doesn't allow us to show up as much as we would want to show up. Right. So it's the narrative process. And you have to really be aware of those one sided narratives that you have about other people in your life. When you start really writing your own narrative, you'll start appreciating and loving the complexity of humans and of how multidimensional we are. And it will make you more forgiving, it'll make you more understanding, it'll make you more loving to embrace the fullness of all of humanity instead of always trying to make sure you're on the good side with all the good guys. And I think there's more shame that comes from trying to be a good person, a good guy on the good side all of the time, and pretending like you don't have any of the shortcomings that you do. And I think that we all wish, we all hope, we all want that someone will see something redeeming in us. Someone will see something good in us. Someone will see something useful and valuable in us. And a lot of us are out there taking a lot of action in the world, trying to get people to see that when we don't even see it. The only thing that needs to happen in order for someone to see something redeeming in us is that we need to see that and we need to write that narrative about ourselves. I want to give you just a little bit of homework based on this idea. It's a lot, it's a lot for you to uncover the narratives that you already have and then write thesis and write paragraphs for everyone around you. But I just want to give you a little bit of homework to start with this process in a kind of an easy way to ease into it is to practice on someone you love, Think about someone you love the most in the world. For most of us, that isn't ourselves, wouldn't it be cool if it was? But you think about someone that you absolutely adore and what is your thesis about them, and what do you believe about them? And what is the story that you tell about them? And what are the actual circumstances? What are the actual evidence that you have for that person? Okay, that's what you're going to do. That's the first part and the second part. And this is just to show you how powerful a narrative is. The second part is you're going to take that same person that you love and you're going to change the thesis that you have about them to the exact opposite of what it has been. So if you believe they're the kindest person in the world, they're the most amazing person in the world, they're the most awesome person you've ever met, they're your favorite person, right? Whatever your thesis, and you're going to change a thesis to the opposite. So if your thesis is they're the kindest person you're going to change it to, they are very unkind. And then I want you to look for evidence that that is true. And you will find it. If you're honest with yourself, you will find how they are a human and that they do have parts of themselves that aren't kind. And you'll be able to see that, and you'll be able to see their humanity and still be in love with them, See their humanity, see that negative side of them, and understand that you're just not focused on it. You're just not writing that narrative on the regular basis. And once you do that process, once you do that little bit of homework on someone else you love, the rest of the work will be easier because you will understand that it doesn't take away that person's greatness. It doesn't take away that person's value to understand their humanness and to write a narrative that simply allows you to focus on what you want to focus on, to have the highest level life that you can have. All right, my friends, I hope you have a beautiful month. I hope you explore all your narratives and write your narratives. And if you are in scholars, we will be doing that in class. So make sure you look to your schedule. Make sure you show up to that workshop within scholars so we can write all these narratives ourselves. All right, have a beautiful month, everyone. Talk to you soon. Bye.
The Life Coach School Podcast: Episode #527 - "Narratives" Hosted by Brooke Castillo | Released September 5, 2024
In Episode #527 of The Life Coach School Podcast, Master Coach Brooke Castillo delves deep into the transformative power of personal narratives. This comprehensive discussion explores how the stories we tell ourselves and others shape our identities, influence our emotions, and dictate our actions. Castillo not only elucidates the mechanics behind these narratives but also provides actionable strategies for listeners to rewrite their personal stories for a more empowered and fulfilling life.
Castillo opens the episode by introducing the concept of personal narratives, emphasizing their role in shaping one's self-identity and life perspective.
"A personal narrative is simply a story that we create about people or things that we think are true. And the most important narrative you're ever going to have is the narrative you have about yourself and the narrative you have about your life."
— Brooke Castillo [00:00:40]
She distinguishes between business narratives, which she teaches in her entrepreneurial management class, and personal narratives, the focus of this episode.
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the difference between objective reality and subjective narratives.
"The difference between an absolute truth and reality. A pure circumstance, something that exists in the world that's irrefutable and the interpretation we have of the world."
— Brooke Castillo [00:02:00]
Castillo explains that much of human suffering stems from conflating narratives with absolute truths, leading to unnecessary pain and frustration.
The narrative one holds about oneself is paramount, as it forms the foundation of self-identity.
"Our narratives are just a big collection of thoughts that create all of our feelings, that determine our actions, that will ultimately create our legacy in this world."
— Brooke Castillo [00:03:30]
She stresses that controlling and understanding one's personal narrative is essential for personal growth and legacy building.
Castillo delves into how personal narratives are unconsciously formed through socialization, upbringing, and external teachings.
"When we're little, we're being told that that's a tree and that's a rock and this is how you are. We don't know how to distinguish between what is actually that's useful to believe about ourselves and something that isn't."
— Brooke Castillo [00:04:45]
She highlights that without conscious awareness, individuals may inherit flawed or limiting narratives about themselves and the world.
The narratives we craft about others can significantly alter our relationships and interactions.
"If I believe that someone's kind and they do something that could be perceived as unkind in my mind, it won't go along with the story that I have about them."
— Brooke Castillo [00:10:20]
Using a personal anecdote, Castillo illustrates how differing narratives about a friend can lead to conflicting perceptions and judgments.
Black-and-white thinking in narratives often leads to polarized and unrealistic perceptions.
"Any narrative that is black or white, that is all one or all the other, is probably not serving you right."
— Brooke Castillo [00:13:15]
She advocates for more balanced narratives that recognize the multifaceted nature of human beings and life experiences.
One of the most transformative concepts presented is the "50-50" narrative—a balanced view of life that acknowledges both positive and negative aspects.
"Life is 50 50. Instead of constantly comparing their current life to a life that is supposed to be happy and positive all of the time... they've been able to look at their life through a lens of, oh, life is supposed to be a balance of both."
— Brooke Castillo [00:17:40]
This perspective helps individuals accept life's inherent challenges without diminishing its joys, fostering resilience and contentment.
Castillo provides a structured approach for listeners to assess and rewrite their personal narratives:
Self-Assessment: Write a paragraph summarizing your current narrative about yourself, identifying the main thesis and supporting details.
Life Assessment: Similarly, evaluate the narrative you hold about your life, pinpointing its core message.
Others' Narratives: Analyze the stories you tell about significant people in your life, understanding how these perceptions influence your relationships.
"You need to write a narrative that simply allows you to focus on what you want to focus on, to have the highest level life that you can have."
— Brooke Castillo [00:21:10]
She emphasizes authenticity in these narratives, ensuring that any new stories are grounded in personal truth and factual experiences.
To facilitate practical application, Castillo assigns a two-part homework:
Positive Thesis: Write down your current positive narrative about someone you love, detailing your beliefs and supporting evidence.
Opposite Thesis: Rewrite this narrative with an opposing viewpoint, intentionally seeking evidence that contradicts your initial positive perception.
"You'll be able to see their humanity and still be in love with them, see their humanity and understand that you're just not focused on it."
— Brooke Castillo [00:28:50]
This exercise aims to broaden understanding and foster a more nuanced appreciation of loved ones.
In wrapping up, Castillo reiterates the profound impact of consciously shaping one's narratives. She encourages listeners to embrace the complexity of human experiences and relationships, moving away from one-sided stories toward more balanced and empowering narratives.
"You're actually the main character in your own story and you are the one writing it. This is fantastic news."
— Brooke Castillo [00:25:00]
She also invites listeners engaged in her certification program, Scholars, to participate in workshops that delve deeper into narrative creation and transformation.
Final Thoughts
Episode #527 of The Life Coach School Podcast serves as a compelling guide to understanding and harnessing the power of personal narratives. Brooke Castillo expertly combines psychological insights with practical exercises, empowering listeners to take control of their life stories. By recognizing and revising the narratives that define them, individuals can unlock greater self-awareness, improve their relationships, and cultivate a more balanced and fulfilling life.
For more resources and to explore certification opportunities, visit TheLifeCoachSchool.com.