Ancestral Trauma Healer: The Hidden Family Patterns Shaping Your Life

Summary

Podcast Summary: Living Your Legacy

Episode: "Ancestral Trauma Healer: The Hidden Family Patterns Shaping Your Life"

Host: Rudy Mawer
Guest: Carmiola de Centura, Transformational Coach & Founder of TransUnity Academy
Release Date: March 9, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the fascinating and often overlooked impact of ancestral trauma on our present-day lives. Rudy Mawer speaks with Carmiola de Centura, an international transformational coach and ancestral trauma healer, about how family patterns and unresolved generational trauma can shape ambitions, fears, and life paths—often unconsciously. Carmiola shares her personal journey, practical frameworks, and real-world stories of healing and liberation, offering listeners new perspectives on legacy, self-awareness, and change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining Ancestral Trauma and Its Impact

• What is Ancestral Trauma?

  • Carmiola explains her work as uncovering hidden family patterns that limit individuals:

    “Let’s say that I see you, but I know where you’re coming from and I know what stops you from achieving your next level.”
    — Carmiola (02:21)

  • Many people feel blocked but don’t understand why; often, roots go back generations.

• How Ancestral Trauma Manifests

  • Patterns show up as repeated events, synchronicities in ages, fears, or phobias without direct cause in one’s own life.
  • Example: “If your mother, something happened with your mother at a certain age, then, oh my God, something happened with you at the same age... then this is where there’s ancestral trauma.”
    — Carmiola (04:15)
  • Phobias, allergies, or limitations in life may correlate with family history (e.g., grandparent’s war trauma).

2. Personal Journey and Motivation

• Carmiola’s Story
  • Began exploring ancestral trauma after recognizing a generational pattern when her son turned 13, the same age significant for her, her mother, and grandfather.
  • Grandfather's traumatic escape from Siberia during WWII initiated a pattern of unresolved pain.
  • “And then I understood that it’s me who has to heal this. It's me who has to change it for my son.”
    — Carmiola (05:24)

3. Who Seeks Ancestral Healing and Why

• Client Stories
  • People are drawn to her practice not just when “something bothers them,” but often when life presents repeating obstacles or unexplained suffering.
  • Memorable example in a luxury store: Carmiola spontaneously reads a shop attendant’s pain linked to a legacy of child loss, illuminating hidden generational sorrow.
    • “He lost his child… his sisters had lost children. And before that, there were deaths of children. So he got interested.”
      — Carmiola (07:09)

4. Manifesto Cards: Tools for Self-Inquiry

• The Deck Explained (08:15)

  • Carmiola introduces the “manifesto cards,” developed as companion tools for her book, helping people gain daily insights about their state of being or emotional blocks.
    • “These are the cards that should give you like a sight, like an insight about your situation right now… Sometimes we need a hint.”
      — Carmiola (08:17)

• Live Demonstration

  • Rudy draws a card: “Is your soul crying?”
  • Card message: Embraces the importance of emotional release, cleansing, and returning to authentic self.
    • “Everyone wants to cry from time to time... your soul needs to let go of baggage you’ve been carrying around... In your soul, you are almighty.”
      — Rudy reading card (09:38)

• Interpretation and Relevance

  • Carmiola reflects on Rudy’s role as a leader, and the difficulty of sharing responsibility, tying card’s meaning to common entrepreneurial loneliness.

5. Legacy: The Ripple Effect of Personal Change

• Defining Legacy
  • Legacy starts at the “zero point”—moments of vulnerability and self-discovery.
  • Carmiola recounts her first speaking competition at Rudy's event, where overcoming the language barrier and self-doubt launched her global journey as a healer.
    • “...most of the people don’t know... that was my first English speaking contest... and that changed my life curve a lot after that.”
      — Carmiola (12:05)
  • “And that’s where my legacy started, my making of legacy started.” (13:22)
  • Rudy affirms the power of small events as catalysts: “Yeah, the butterfly effect.” (13:20)

6. What Listeners Will Gain

• Insight & Disorientation are Both Valuable

  • Carmiola shares feedback: “...that was my first time learning from Carmiola and I’m so fucked up right now, I don’t know anything anymore.”
    — Carmiola, quoting a student (13:54)
  • Encourages viewers to embrace unfamiliarity as a potent starting point for transformation.

• Invitation to Connect and Learn

  • Carmiola offers her website (carmioladesantura.com) and her TV show “Haunted by the Past” where she gives live readings.
  • Invites those interested to participate or watch.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Breaking Patterns:

  “If a person does not know what stops me, I feel like something stops me, then I’m gonna tell him what stops him without maybe him knowing himself.”
  — Carmiola (02:21)

• On Emotional Authenticity:

  “Everyone wants to cry from time to time. This way we cleanse ourselves from lowly thoughts and feelings inside our body… In your soul, you are almighty.”
  — Manifesto card, read by Rudy (09:38)

• On Defining Legacy:

  “And that’s where my legacy started, my making of legacy started.”
  — Carmiola (13:22)

• On Growth:

  “That was my first time learning from Carmiola and I’m so fucked up right now, I don’t know anything anymore… That’s a good point. That’s a good zero point.”
  — Carmiola (13:54)

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• 00:00–02:21 — Intro to ancestral trauma and Carmiola’s background
• 03:39–05:24 — How ancestral trauma manifests generationally; Carmiola’s discovery through her family
• 06:23–07:52 — Real-life example: Reading in-store, synchronicities, who seeks healing
• 08:14–09:38 — Manifesto cards introduction and a live reading
• 10:19–11:07 — Applying card insights to entrepreneurship; struggle with delegation
• 12:05–13:22 — Carmiola’s legacy: her breakthrough at Rudy’s event
• 13:54–14:32 — Disorientation as the start of transformation
• 14:39–15:17 — How to connect with Carmiola, TV show invitation

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Takeaways

• Unresolved family patterns and trauma can silently shape our lives, ambitions, and blocks.
• Identifying and healing ancestral wounds can be a gateway to a more authentic legacy.
• Tools like ritual, cards, and reflective practice can help guide self-discovery.
• Discomfort and “not knowing” are often the gateway to deeper understanding and growth.
• Legacy starts with a single step—often a vulnerable one.

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For more, visit carmioladesantura.com or watch “Haunted by the Past” for live readings and transformative stories.

Transcript

[Rudy]

I think most people listening understand how your upbringing can impact your outlook on life. You know, what you achieve in life, your perception of reality and your perception of yourself. But I think it's very fascinating about how not only your upbringing from your parents, but maybe before that can even impact it.

[Carmiola de Centura]

There's ancestral trauma. If a person does not know what stops me, I feel like something stops me. Then I'm going to tell him what stops me stops him without maybe him knowing.

[Narrator]

Carmiola de Centura is a transformational coach, ancestral trauma healer, and the founder of TransUnity Academy, where she guides people to break free from ancestral patterns and generational trauma. Through her work, she has helped hundreds worldwide uncover the unseen forces shaping their lives and step into lasting change.

[Carmiola de Centura]

I've written a book manifesto, and these cards come with the book. Take. Just to take a card and you have to do it yourself and then pick one card.

[Rudy]

There you go. Okay. Is your soul crying?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah, I gave it the explanation. Sure.

[Podcast Host]

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[Rudy]

Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Legacy Makers. Today we're going to talk about trauma, and we have one of the world's top ancestral trauma specialists sat with us. So excited for this. She's going to go and probably dive deep into my life and all the trauma I don't know about. Who knows? We'll see where this episode goes. Carmilla, welcome to the show.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Thank you, Rudy. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me here.

[Rudy]

Of course. So if someone doesn't understand what I just said and doesn't understand what an ancestral trauma specialist is, do you mind just explaining a bit about yourself and what that is and what you do?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Let's say that I see you, but I know where you're coming from and I know what stops you from achieving your next level. If a person does not know what stops me, I feel like something stops me, then I'm gonna tell him what stops him without maybe him knowing himself.

[Rudy]

So you work with individuals to help them unlock the next phase of their life. Is that a fair way to say it?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Change the course of their life.

[Rudy]

Change the course of their life. Okay. And this is for everyone or people that are more stuck and not in a heading In a good direction? Or is it for people that are in a great direct, a little bit

[Carmiola de Centura]

fucked up, so that they, like, know what they want to do, but they don't know what to do? They're like. It's like in being at the crossroad, you kind of like, know that, yeah, I want to be famous. Okay, you want to be famous, but what stops you? I don't know. Something stops me. Then I'm coming in and I'm explaining him why he wants to be famous. And then I'm going to say, you know what? It's because of your grand. Grand. Granddad wanted to escape from the country. He was maybe, sure, yeah, whatever shot, whatever was there. And because of this eagerness to escape from the situation, you want to be seen in order to release.

[Rudy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a really. I mean, you spoke at my event about it when we met. It's a fascinating concept. You know how. Yeah, how that can impact you. And obviously I understand. I think most people listening understand how your upbringing can impact your outlook on life, your, you know, what you achieve in life, your perception of reality and your perception of yourself. But I think it's very fascinating about how not only your upbringing from your parents, but maybe before that can even impact it. So, so explain to someone that's scratching their head going, how can something before I was even born impact that? How does that work?

[Carmiola de Centura]

For example, the easiest way to understand if you have something from your back, back, back, not from your childhood, is that when there's a lot of synchronicities in ages or in numbers. For example, your mother, something happened with your mother at certain age, then, oh my God, something happened with you at the same age. And then you know that maybe your uncle, something happened with him at the same age, then this is where there's ancestral trauma. If you were a child and there is no trauma, then you may have symptoms of your grandparents. And symptoms could be, for example, you have allergies, you have FOMOs, you're afraid of swimming or flying, and you don't know why. Then the answer is back there that something happened with someone in your history. Maybe they got shot in the plane, maybe something happened. And because something happened, there is a trauma and belief and the choices.

[Rudy]

Yeah, so. So I got to ask. I'm sure people listening are wondering, how did you get into this?

[Carmiola de Centura]

I think because of my son. Because of my son who got 13. And then I understood that something happened with me when I was 13, something happened with my mom and my granddad And. And it started with my granddad while he was escaping from Siberia, where he was deported in 1944 from Estonia. So during the war. And then things started to happen at the age of 13, until I was prepared for that. In my episode, I'm sharing this, I'm opening it up, what actually happened there. And then I understood that it's me who has to heal this. It's me who has to change it for my son.

[Rudy]

Yep, I love that.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Okay.

[Rudy]

And if someone is listening and going, how, how. You know, how do people find you? How does this work? Who do you work with? Can you share, like, how you're applying this to people's lives and the outcome?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Lately I tell you a story. Lately it happened. So that last week, for example, I went with my friend to a shop and she was trying on a T. $10,000 dress. And we were in a dressing room. And then the man comes in, says that, are you going to buy this? And my, My. My friend says that, yeah, we are thinking about that, so can we have some discount? And she started to talk with this man who was serving us in the shop. And they started to talk, talk, talk, talk. And then he asked if, yeah, ladies, what you're doing? And she says, she's ancestral trauma healer. I'm doing this speaking, keynote speaking. And then he started to ask questions and we ended up doing a private session, me reading this person, giving him a knowledge why he has to change the route that he's on. But the story is very beautiful there. He was interested because they were synchronicities. He lost his child at the age. His child was 35. And he was a single father and his sisters had lost children. And before that there were deaths of children. So he got interested. And people get interested if they are stuck in something that bothers them.

[Rudy]

Sure.

[Carmiola de Centura]

So they, I mean, if nothing bothers you, obviously I'm not like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Something must bother you. No, no, the people come when, when there's. There's a connection.

[Rudy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that. So, you know, burning question. Anyone on video may. May notice that there's a deck of cards on the table here.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah, right.

[Rudy]

What. What are they? How do they come into play?

[Carmiola de Centura]

I've written a book manifesto. And these cards come with the book manifesto. And these are the cards that should give you like a sight, like an insight about. About your situation right now. Like, we are always in, in, in. In the place we are.

[Rudy]

Yeah.

[Carmiola de Centura]

And sometimes we need a hint. For example, like a hint From a friend. Hint. From someone who gives us, like, do this or do that. And these manifesto cards are just for a message for the day. Like, for example, take. Just to take a card and you have to do it yourself. And then pick one card and look with your eyes.

[Rudy]

So take a card at random.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah, but shuffle them first.

[Rudy]

Shuffle them.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah.

[Rudy]

All right, so if you're listening, I am shuffling cards now. I haven't done this for a long time. Okay, so then just pick one from the middle anyway. Anywhere.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah, but your eyes has to see it. Don't pick, like, randomly with your closed eyes. People always.

[Rudy]

Okay, so you want me to look for it?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Rudy]

I like this one.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah.

[Rudy]

Okay, so. And then read it. Yeah, I'll give it to you.

[Carmiola de Centura]

You read it.

[Rudy]

Okay, I read it. There you go. Okay. Is your soul crying? Okay. You want me to read the whole thing?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Absolutely. Then I tell you what it means.

[Rudy]

All right. So everyone wants to cry from time to time. This way we cleanse ourselves from lowly thoughts and feelings inside our body. When you feel like crying, let it happen. Your soul needs to let go of baggage you've been carrying around. After being cleansed, you will start to see surroundings more clearly, and your problems will find their solution. You will reach the knowledge of what your soul really wants. Know that your will is born in your heart, but you. But your need is born in your head. But be aware that crying does not create new possibilities. Creation is born from love, passion, and being aware of your inner might. You need to hold your head up high and believe in what you already know. In your soul, you are almighty.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Very good. Yeah. I gave you the explanation.

[Rudy]

Sure.

[Carmiola de Centura]

You created something that is huge. You have to be part of everything. But maybe in your soul you feel like, I want to share this position with someone, but I cannot because I have to be part of it. It's like, we love what we do, but sometimes we feel like, can someone help me doing that? Can someone replace me? No, nobody can replace you, but I would love to. So maybe you want to be in a million places at the same time, but you cannot.

[Rudy]

Sure. I think you describe every CEO, you know, running a business, and. Yeah. You know, being able to put all your hands in the pies.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah.

[Rudy]

Interesting. So you'll work with clients. They'll. Will they fly in or over zoom or they'll just buy the book and do this themselves.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Yeah. I'm in America a lot, so I. I come here as. As I go to some other places in Estonia. I go to Atlanta. I Go to my hometown.

[Rudy]

Like, yeah, got it. And just last few questions. Obviously there's way more about this in your episode and to learn all of this, but you know, the legacy side, where does that come in and what does that mean long term to you?

[Carmiola de Centura]

Last year I was at the event in the Castle, your event, and I just came with my friend there. I was not a member and I was like, you know when, when you go to a party, you're like, you're checking around like what people are doing here. And then I remember that one of your assistants said, asked that what is it that you do? And I went in front of these people that were there and I was like, I had no clue. And I stood there, I couldn't say a word and I was like mumbling there, doing like saying nothing. And then I went to sit and I felt so bad, I felt so bad. I was like, what the heck? You don't even know what you're doing. And next day there was a speaking competition. For five minutes you had to introduce what you're doing. And I was like, what the heck, I should know what I'm doing. And then next day I, I, I gave my speech and I won this competition, the speaking competition. But what most of the people don't know who were there is that that was my first English speaking contest or speaking English. And that changed my life curve a lot after that. I was at Lisa Nicholls stage last week. I had my TEDx speech in English. So that was so. And people don't know that something so little may change so much in someone's life.

[Rudy]

Yeah, the butterfly effect.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Absolutely. And that that's where my legacy started, My making of legacy started. Yeah, I'm so grateful for that.

[Rudy]

Good. I love that. I'm glad we could be a small part of that. So last question for you. Someone wants to learn more about you and all the fascinating stuff you're doing. What will they get from your episode? What else will they learn about you and what you do from your episode?

[Carmiola de Centura]

I'm telling you when I had. Because I'm doing my master classes and the last feedback I got from, from one person was that she sended a message to his friend. He's and her I guess mixed them up. So don't mind. I mean she, she sent a message to her friend and she said that, yeah, that was my first time learning from Carmiola and I'm so fucked up right now, I don't know anything any anymore. And I, I think that the same thing could happen with watching this episode that you thought that you know much, then, yeah, watch this, and you may end up in a place where you're like, what the heck just happened? I don't know anything about my life. And that's a good point. That's a good zero point.

[Rudy]

And last question. Someone wants to learn more about you, get the book or experience what you're doing. How can they find you online?

[Carmiola de Centura]

I have my homepage, and this is carmioladesantura.com and maybe what I would like to share is that I'm doing my TV episodes haunted by the past, when I'm actually reading people live. And, yeah, I just read people. That's one of my things. And I tell them what stops them. And if people would be interested in being in this TV show and sharing their stories, then I could read them live.

[Rudy]

Love that. Love that.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Good.

[Rudy]

Well, guys, that's a wrap for this episode, but obviously far more to this story. And I think it's one of those things in life, like a good food or wine, you have to experience it. It's hard to just see it. So go check her out. And as always, keep working hard, have an impact, and build a legacy. I'll see you guys soon. Take care.

[Carmiola de Centura]

Bye.

[Podcast Host]

Bye.