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I was diagnosed with early onset lupus, Hashimoto and fibromyalgia, as well as unexplained infertility when I was 30 years old. If this can happen to me, I don't know how, but I can unwind it.
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And that something shifted in my body or in my emotions or whatever that created this. Carrie Drinkwine is a pioneer in holistic wellness and the founder of the Institute of Regenerative Health, where she trains and certifies practitioners across the globe. She also operates the Wise Wellness Holistic Clinic, empowering people to take control of their health and transform their lives.
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I saw first time in history we've gone backwards in life expectancy. So you got a lot of work to do.
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I really believe that I'm leaving behind a legacy of hope, of health sovereignty, of wealth sovereignty. You know, these are the things that make us ill is, you know, financial stress, emotional stress, physical stress. So legacy to me is being able to leave behind an imprint that will transform for lifetimes.
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You can live your dream foreign. Welcome back to another episode of Legacy Makers. Joining me today, we're talking about a true legacy around health, regenerative health. Carrie's joining me. We are both big health advocates, friends, and hang out a lot in the health space, have a lot of mutual friends. She's, you know, basically the pioneer of regenerative health. She's trained hundreds of practitioners, helping thousands of people around the world, and really trying to redefine the world of health, which isn't in a great place as we all know. I mean, I saw first time in history we've gone backwards in life expectancy. So you got a lot of work to do.
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So much work.
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Yeah. Well, welcome. Let's kick off. Like, do you want to summarize what you do and how you got here?
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Yeah, I'd love to. So it really started with my own journey, as per usual. Right. We get into our passion because of some sort of evolution that needs to happen within ourselves. So I was diagnosed with early onset lupus, Hashimoto and fibromyalgia, as well as unexplained infertility when I was 30 years old. And so I just Remember this feeling in my body of, like, the shock of that diagnosis and being so young and I was a mother of two at the time, and being told I was infertile when I knew I had had children before.
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And so I just had this moment that came over me after the grief and the shock wore off of understanding and knowing that if this can happen to me, I don't know how, but I can unwind it.
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Yeah.
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And that something shifted in my body or in my emotions or whatever that created this. And so that really set out my journey to learning how to heal myself. And that was what I did. And so I studied with endocrinologists, rheumatologists, hormone specialists, functional medicine doctors, and it really wasn't until I found the work of regenerative detox that I was able to reverse every single condition naturally and in a very short period of time.
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Well, you probably learned during that process. Most of them didn't know what to do, or they just write prescriptions and say, hopefully this will help.
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I was given. Well, when I was diagnosed, I was given immunosuppressants, thyroid medication, steroids, and testosterone.
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Crazy.
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That was like the. She was like, okay, here you go. You can. If you take this, you'll just live a relatively normal but shorter life. And that was just like, average Tuesday.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I just remember feeling like, okay, this is not the trajectory. And so once I learned how to heal my own body, it became a mission. Like, everyone needs to know that this is possible for them. And it's so much easier than we're making it.
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Why isn't it funny? And not funny funny, but, like, isn't it crazy that that's 90%, just take the medication or probably 95 and just go, okay, that sucks.
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Well, yeah, it's because we're taught that it's genetic. We're taught that, oh, it's genetic, or this just happens. We don't know. And that's because in Western medicine, we study disease, we don't study health.
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Yeah.
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And so it's a backwards model.
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Well. And because it's not profitable to fix.
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Disease 1000%, I'll let you go there.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. But that really is what it is. We're studying disease models. We're not studying wellness. So doctors aren't educated on how to keep the body. Well, they're educated on how to treat symptoms with pharmaceutical drugs.
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Yeah, yeah. And I mean, look, to be fair, like, on doctors and certain prescriptions also. I mean, a big problem, and you probably agree, is Even though the it is accessible out there, most people don't want to do the work so they were going to take the prescription versus clean up their diet, sleep eight hours a night, start going to the gym. So it's not like it's only, it's not like it's. All the doctors and medical fields fall because there's a big percent that even if you tell them everything to do, they're not going to, they're not going to do it. And it's better they take some medicine and do nothing at all and stay sick in some cases. Right. It's that reality.
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Yeah, I agree 100%. I think what I look at is people being educated to know that they have option 100%. So what option is right for you? Is it the regenerative health get to the root cause path? Is it take more naturopathic supplements and cover up the symptoms but more naturally? Or is it take a pharmaceutical pill because you don't want to change? And none of those are wrong? Yeah. It's just knowing that you have those.
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Well, and the crazy thing though about the best option, which obviously is to naturally heal yourself, it's the hardest upfront. And like most things in life, they're the hard. The best things are the hardest upfront. Building your own business, it's easier to stay in the job you hate, but you can pay your mortgage and bills, then quit, have no money and try and figure out a business. It's easier to take a pill that reduces the symptoms so you can sleep better tonight, then spend six months of redoing and cutting out pizza and all the things you love and stopping smoking and you get eight hours of sleep. Right. So. And it's funny that you know that the success in life, you have to go in a deep hole and push through to come out the other side.
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I think that's part of why we're gifted those experiences though. Like, I really believe that the reason I was handed these diagnoses is so that I could bring this work into the world. And yeah, it was really hard. I totally did some of the craziest detoxes for six months.
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People, what's the craziest one that you've ever done? Come on.
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Well, I ate 100% red grapes.
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Wow. Red grapes. Wow.
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And then did a 40 day red grape juice and lime.
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That is crazy, is insane.
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But before we write it off, I am impatient. So I want results now. I want to know how to get there the fastest. And it was about cleaning the body as quickly.
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So what's the science with red grapes?
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Resveratrol.
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Okay, yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
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Resveratrol. And they're one of the most powerful antioxidants, polyphenols, carotenoids. So it's literally bringing so much electric energy into your cells and detoxifying and cleaning.
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I do a lot of cherries.
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Cherries are made the imply of. Yeah. So fruit is like what cleans the body and then, you know, there's a time for cleaning, there's a time for building, and then there's a time for maintenance. So I don't live on red grapes anymore, but I did red grapes in conjunction with a bunch of herbals and plant algae supports to make sure my body was fully supported. But it was an acute phase. It was really hard. But then I reversed three chronic diseases and got pregnant twice.
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Well, it's funny with. Because back when I was a sports scientist and stuff and trainer, I wasn't like, I tried juice fast and dungeons. I wasn't maybe the biggest fan overall. But one thing I said to my clients, because some people would rave about it, I say, you do realize, yes, the juicing helps and the nutrients and stuff, but you know what? 90% of it that's helped you as you went from McDonald's every day to not eat in McDonald's every day. And people don't seem to understand that. Like, I'm not dismissing the grapes and the juice, but when you go from a crappy diet to anything that's healthy. Right. Yeah. See a massive shift from getting rid of the crap because I don't think people realize how bad that's affecting you. It's more powerful removing the crap than just adding the good.
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In some ways, 100%. A lot of people are on an addition protocol. I'm going to take this supplement, I'm going to take this thing, but that's not getting to the root. And for me, my story was actually I was a. I was like a quote unquote vegan eater. Yeah. No processed food, but exercised every single day, like really hard. So for me, the disease, or the disease as I call it, didn't make sense. Like, why do I have this? I exercise, I eat well, but it was really not understanding underneath all of that, the fundamentals under that was my kidneys weren't filtering right. My lymphatic system was backed up and overwhelmed. The harder I exercised, the more I tanked my adrenal glands. So it's really understanding.
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Especially a lot of women. Ice train bikini competitors and a Lot of the. The cortisol's way off. Thyroids.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was teaching at that time, 17 hot yoga classes a week. A week. And like, with weights and my. My hormones were all.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so it was actually me having to pull back on the exercise and get my kidneys to open up. A lot of people don't know what kidney filtration is, and that's where the lymphatic drain is. And so my lymph system was backed up from a lifetime of pharmaceuticals poor choices in college and young adulthood. You know, it's a compounding effect, the.
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Grieving about kidneys and livers. They do recover well.
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They do. And I'm living proof of that.
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Yes. So now let's talk about. That's your own health journey and hopefully some great takeaways already. But now what are you doing? What is the job now?
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Now I own the Institute of Regenerative Health, which was never in the cards. It just. It was sort of an evolution. You know, first I opened a clinical practice where I met with people in coffee shops and at my house, and then slowly rented a room and then opened Wise Wellness Clinic. And the clinic still lives today. I'm retired from that, but I have amazing practitioners and they're running it. And it was in the pandemic, actually, where our clinic was deemed non essential and the rug was pulled out from underneath me. My full primary income was gone. I had a wait list months long for people with chronic illness. And I just had this voice drop in saying, carrie, train people.
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But isn't that, like, become the greatest thing now for you? I feel you.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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And actually it was. If I would have just been stuck in that rabbit hole of seeing 40, 50, 60 people a week, I never would have had the space to create what I created.
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So now a lot of people during COVID I think they had that right in entrepreneurship. Like, they got forced to do something else. And I, I, you know, interview so many people. What's cool is the original things recovered and they've got this whole new business now, or business model on as a. A second thing.
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Yeah, yeah. So our clinic has recovered, it's running, and now we have the Institute of Regenerative Health. And so what I do now is I've stepped fully into the education role. I train and certified people that want to become regenerative health practitioners that want to build a career in natural health in a career in a totally different way. So my passion was not the burnout, not to build more practitioners that are seeing one client at a time, they're burnt out, they're exhausted, they're at a ceiling for their income. And so we built one of the most in depth knowledge based systems inside our institute and a full business in a box where people can have online courses immediately when they graduate that they can run 30, 40, 50 women or.
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Why I think it's so great in the health space. That's kind of the direction I went with personal training, personal training for five years and kind of said to myself, there's got to be a better way of helping more people and making more money. And I, you know, I was burnout too because as a personal trainer I had my first client at 6, my last one at 10 or 11. Taught two spin classes, a boot camp in the middle.
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Your money, you have no life.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was trying to go to the clubs at 11. I was a 20 year old till 3 in the morning. So. Yeah, but, but then I learned, but what's great is, you know, obviously I learned online and we had a Facebook group with 70,000 students. We had sellout events around the world, Australia, Canada, uk. And it's not just the money, you know, we made millions. But it's if you're passionate about what you do, which I was and you are. It's like what's so cool is to see you help 60,000 people.
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Like you can help 40 people a week or you help 100,000. And that's the beauty of online reach.
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Yeah. And look, the 40 people you have great relationships with, especially as a personal trainer because you see them three times a week or twice a week. But what, you know, getting online for everyone, listening. Like I would wake up every day and there'd be a new before and after photo in my Facebook group. And there's like, there's not many better feelings than that if you love what you do. Especially when you've never met the person. Right. They bought a program, implemented the program.
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And then, and then you see the testimony.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's really what I do now is not only trained practitioners, but I have tons of DIY Evergreen programs. I just got sent a message this morning actually of somebody that. So she was a patient of mine years ago and then started working with a lot of my programs. But she had Graves disease and so they eradicated, they irradiated her thyroid, so killed it with radiation. She brought her thyroid back to life through our protocols and now is a completely normal functioning thyroid. For the last year she sent me her panels for the whole year, she's like, I cannot pick it up. So stuff like that, it's like, you can't do that one on one. There's just too many people in the world.
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Well, and what I was coming to say, too, is because you're helping a lot of the practitioners, it's like a double level. Right. Because you're helping them, they help 100 people, you help another one, they help a thousand people. Right. So I really love that. Like, you know, kind of similar to what I'm doing with the business owners. Right. Helping them and then they grow their companies and help more. So. So I love that. Let's talk a little about where do you see this going in 10 years from now? Because I know you're already speaking, you're in Dubai last week, speaking again now, this week in Miami here, speaking pretty much every week. Where is it going to be in 10 years?
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I get chills when you say that. But I honestly think that regenerative health is going to take over the natural health industry. I really see that the institute is probably the most elaborate education you can get in natural health because we focus on not just the biochemical view of the body, the electric view of the body, we focus on the toolkit, we have the business, we focus on the energetics, the emotions, the fascia.
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How do you define it to someone that's listening, that doesn't like. They.
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They're like, what is regenerative?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just.
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So. So regenerative health is really getting to the root cause of a problem and reversing at the source instead of taking a supplement or putting on a band aid. So I'll give you a quick example. If you have poor digestion, you know, you might get told by your doctor to take Pepto Bismol, which is going to just destroy your gut.
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Yeah, yeah.
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If you go to a naturopath, they're probably going to give you hydrochloric acid in a natural form, like maybe prairie slots or something like that. And although your digestion will get better from that supplement, that's not.
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The digestive enzymes cut out fiber. Yeah.
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Why are you not producing enough enzymes? Why is your gut, you know, what's going on in the mucous membrane of the gut lining that the gastric glands aren't working?
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Yeah.
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That's regenerative health.
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Yes. It's coming to the bay. It's like when there's some water leaking in your roof, most of the time you're just patching the roof. Right, exactly. And Then, you know. Yeah, yeah, but you're, you're really fixing the pipage system or, or even maybe the level deeper looking at the whole plumbing system in the house, right?
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100%. Yeah.
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That's great. So, so back to the 10 year thing. Let's keep going.
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So I think the institute is going to take over in the natural health industry. It's going to be the program that everyone is going to, to, to work in this way. And I think we're redefining health and wealth. So the way that I built the business out for people, I think we're going to, you know, the more money in the right hands of the right people is how we change the world. And that's my goal, is that people have health and wealth sovereignty. So I think we're going to end really taking over the natural health industry in career in a way of like sovereign career.
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Yeah.
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Because we built these programs, these online courses for people. But I also do visualize and see that I will be speaking in front of thousands of people in stadium style groups and that people are going to become more conscious through this work because so much of, you know, how we show up in the world is how we feel, how we're vibrating at a cellular level. So in the institute we really merge the work of let the body heal the mind. You know, we have to work on, on the physical, the energetic, the emotional aspects. And so I just see a big shift of awareness happening. I see a big shift of taking personal and radical responsibility for your health.
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Well, even in like I got out of the fitness industry, I think six, seven years ago, it's so different now. Like back then it was very like a, everyone knew each other, you knew all that. You know. Now it's like you meet people in the streets, especially in Miami, it's like everyone knows the stuff. Yeah, it's changed a lot very quickly.
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Yeah. I would say my goal is that regenerative health becomes common.
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I mean it will, I think it will be like even in the last 10 years it's wildly changed. And then another 10 years, I think it will again.
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Yeah. Instead of people saying what is regenerative health? It will be, hey, have you, have you tried regenerative health?
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Even biohacking? Look at everyone. That's, you know, it's just like again, ten years ago that was like very, like very few people knew about.
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It's a biohacking conference every other.
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Yeah, literally Netflix shows like it's definitely mainstream, so that's great. So let's talk a little about legacy, what does legacy mean to you? What are you trying to do around the legacy side?
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I really think for me, legacy is can you make an imprint and an impact that lasts way past your existence of your lifetime. Right. What are the ripples that you're making in the world?
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Yeah.
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And so I really believe that I'm leaving behind a legacy of hope, of health sovereignty, of wealth sovereignty. You know, these are the things that make us ill is, you know, financial stress, emotional stress, physical stress. So my legacy to me is being able to leave behind an imprint that will transform for lifetimes.
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Love that. And last couple of questions. Someone's listening. They want to. Maybe they're in the health space and that they're resonating with what we're saying. They're burning out, doing the one on one and they want to do more one to many and figure out the business model and the business plan. How do they go about that so.
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They can reach out to us. At info at institute of regenerative health.com we train our practitioners to be super well equipped with the toolkit. And then we've actually developed this completely online backend system called Regen Pro for the regenerative professional. So we've actually built an entire platform where everything exists for them, all their courses, their legal waivers, their health questionnaires, their quizzes, their workflows, their websites, everything's there. So we can turnkey that business for them.
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Yeah. And that's great because most of them aren't, you know, maybe sort of business savvy or at least business motivated. So they just want to help more people and, you know, just get in. I met so many people in the industry, they didn't ever have a contract. Right, right.
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So dangerous. You have to have contracts. So what, what my vision was behind that is the things that were the hardest for me.
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Yeah.
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Which was I always say I teach, not tech. And to this day I still say that because tech isn't my passion. Why am I going to spend 100 hours trying to figure out how to build a website? And most people don't have the capital up front. So I took all the hardest things, the legal, the contracts, the questionnaires, the workflows, the websites. And we just did it for them so that it's, you know, it's plug your picture and plug your links in and you're good to go. And so I wanted to take away that health and success is only for the elite that can invest in it. And I wanted to make it accessible to everybody.
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I love that. So, last question. Any more tips, tricks or anything to expect from your episode for the people watching if they've not seen the full TV show yet?
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Yeah, I think in my episode you're going to learn some incredible insights about the body and learning the body in a totally different way. Everybody's focusing on the chemical view. I'm going to show you how to focus on the electric view and how that molevolt potential really connects into illness or wellness.
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Love it.
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Also, just tools and tricks to understand how to manage and study your own health. From home, you will learn kidney filtration, how to look at your urine to see if your lymph is working and kidneys are working. Right. How to tell if your liver is stagnated. I mean, these are things that most people go to doctors for. They don't understand how their body works. And we have to keep it so much simpler because it really is.
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Love it. Well, there you go, guys. A great episode all around. You know, health and the health industry. And if you're a practitioner, an educator, working one on one in pretty much any field, hopefully this helps. And also, if you're obviously in the health space, you want to take your coaching to the next level, obviously tune into the full episode and check out all the stuff that's an episode in a wrap. Keep building a legacy and I'll see you guys soon.
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Episode: From Sick to Sovereign: Carrie’s Incredible Healing Journey
Release Date: April 4, 2025
Host: Rudy Mawer
Guest: Carrie Drinkwine
In the episode titled "From Sick to Sovereign: Carrie’s Incredible Healing Journey," Rudy Mawer welcomes Carrie Drinkwine, a trailblazer in the field of holistic wellness and the founder of the Institute of Regenerative Health. This in-depth conversation delves into Carrie's personal health struggles, her transformative journey to wellness, and her mission to empower others through regenerative health practices.
Carrie's path to becoming a pioneer in regenerative health began with her own profound health challenges. At 30 years old, she was diagnosed with early-onset lupus, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, fibromyalgia, and faced unexplained infertility. These diagnoses not only threatened her physical well-being but also shook her emotional and financial stability.
Carrie (00:00): "I was diagnosed with early onset lupus, Hashimoto and fibromyalgia, as well as unexplained infertility when I was 30 years old. If this can happen to me, I don't know how, but I can unwind it."
The shock of her diagnosis, especially as a mother of two, propelled Carrie into a relentless pursuit of healing. Dissatisfied with conventional medical treatments—such as immunosuppressants, steroids, and synthetic hormones—she sought alternative approaches. Her perseverance led her to study under various specialists and eventually discover regenerative detox, a method that enabled her to naturally reverse her conditions.
Carrie (03:07): "That really set out my journey to learning how to heal myself."
Regenerative health focuses on addressing the root causes of illness rather than merely alleviating symptoms. Carrie emphasizes the distinction between traditional Western medicine and holistic approaches, highlighting the limitations of disease-centric models.
Carrie (04:22): "It's because we're taught that it's genetic... in Western medicine, we study disease, we don't study health."
Regenerative health encompasses a comprehensive understanding of the body, including its biochemical and electrical systems. Carrie explains how factors like kidney filtration and lymphatic drainage are crucial for overall health, areas often overlooked in conventional treatments.
Carrie (09:16): "My lymph system was backed up from a lifetime of pharmaceuticals poor choices in college and young adulthood."
She shares her intense detox regimen, which included consuming 100% red grapes and a 40-day red grape juice and lime cleanse. These methods, rich in antioxidants like resveratrol, helped her detoxify and restore her body's natural functions.
Carrie (06:46): "I ate 100% red grapes... 40 day red grape juice and lime."
Carrie’s personal healing journey naturally evolved into a mission to educate and empower others. Initially running the Wise Wellness Holistic Clinic, Carrie shifted her focus during the COVID-19 pandemic when the clinic was deemed non-essential. This setback prompted her to establish the Institute of Regenerative Health, which trains and certifies practitioners worldwide.
Carrie (10:09): "I've stepped fully into the education role. I train and certify people that want to become regenerative health practitioners."
The Institute provides a comprehensive curriculum that goes beyond traditional natural health education by integrating business training, online course development, and a robust support system. This “business in a box” approach allows practitioners to scale their impact, moving from one-on-one interactions to reaching thousands through online platforms.
Carrie (19:07): "We've built this completely online backend system called Regen Pro for the regenerative professional."
Looking ahead, Carrie envisions regenerative health becoming a dominant force in the natural health industry. She anticipates widespread adoption of regenerative practices, shifting the global focus from treating diseases to fostering holistic wellness.
Carrie (14:36): "I really see that the institute is probably the most elaborate education you can get in natural health."
Carrie believes that as awareness grows, more individuals will take personal and radical responsibility for their health, leading to a significant cultural shift. She foresees regenerative health practices being as commonplace as biohacking, driven by increased consciousness and technological advancements.
Carrie (17:39): "I would say my goal is that regenerative health becomes common."
For Carrie, legacy transcends personal achievements; it embodies the lasting impact one leaves on the world. She aims to cultivate a legacy of hope, health sovereignty, and wealth sovereignty, addressing the multifaceted sources of human stress and illness.
Carrie (18:29): "So my legacy to me is being able to leave behind an imprint that will transform for lifetimes."
Carrie's vision is to create ripples of positive change that extend beyond her lifetime, ensuring that the principles of regenerative health continue to benefit future generations.
Carrie offers actionable advice for health practitioners looking to expand their influence from one-on-one interactions to broader, scalable models. She highlights the importance of education and providing comprehensive tools to support practitioners in building successful, sustainable businesses.
Carrie (19:07): "We train our practitioners to be super well equipped with the toolkit."
By addressing common challenges such as legal requirements, workflow management, and online presence, Carrie’s Institute removes barriers that often hinder practitioners from scaling their impact. This approach not only benefits the practitioners but also exponentially increases the number of individuals they can help.
Carrie (19:56): "I took all the hardest things, the legal, the contracts... and you're good to go."
"From Sick to Sovereign: Carrie’s Incredible Healing Journey" is a compelling episode that showcases the transformative power of regenerative health. Carrie Drinkwine's personal story of overcoming debilitating illnesses through holistic practices serves as an inspiring testament to the potential of natural healing. Her dedication to educating and empowering others through the Institute of Regenerative Health underscores her commitment to leaving a lasting legacy of health and wellness.
Listeners are encouraged to explore regenerative health as a viable path to wellness and consider how they can contribute to this growing movement, whether as practitioners or as individuals seeking to take control of their own health.
Carrie (20:42): "You will learn kidney filtration, how to look at your urine to see if your lymph is working and kidneys are working."
Key Takeaways:
Personal Transformation: Carrie's journey from severe illness to health sovereignty exemplifies the effectiveness of regenerative health practices.
Regenerative Health Defined: Focuses on identifying and reversing the root causes of illness rather than just alleviating symptoms.
Education and Empowerment: The Institute of Regenerative Health provides comprehensive training and business tools for practitioners to scale their impact.
Future Vision: Carrie's vision positions regenerative health as a mainstream approach, transforming the natural health industry and societal perceptions of wellness.
Legacy Building: Emphasizes creating lasting positive change that extends beyond individual achievements, fostering a healthier and more empowered global community.
For those interested in embracing regenerative health or expanding their practice, Carrie's insights and the resources offered by the Institute of Regenerative Health present valuable opportunities to contribute to a transformative movement in wellness.