How a Window Contractor Reclaimed His Tech Dream

Summary

Living Your Legacy – Episode Summary

Episode Title: How a Window Contractor Reclaimed His Tech Dream
Host: Rudy Mawer
Guest: Esteban Kadamani (Founder of Infinite Windows, Open Strategos)
Date: August 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode tells the unique story of Esteban Kadamani—a Colombian-born, Miami-based window contractor whose entrepreneurial journey spans two decades and now comes full circle to realize his long-held dream of working in technology. Esteban shares the parallel paths of growing his window company, Infinite Windows, serving both luxury estates and low-income housing, and his recent foray into AI-powered construction solutions with his new venture, Open Strategos. The conversation explores legacy, resilience, innovation, and the fast-changing landscape facing small and large construction companies in the AI era.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Esteban's Miami Journey and Legacy in Construction

• Roots & Identity

  • Esteban reflects on his Colombian heritage and Miami identity, having lived in Miami longer than Colombia.
  • Quote:

    "I've lived here more than I've lived in Colombia, which is crazy because I feel like a Colombian guy..." (02:12)

• Full Circle Moment

  • Unwittingly, Esteban realized upon entering the studio that he installed its windows nearly 17 years prior.
  • Quote:

    "When I was walking in, I'm like, this looks familiar...16, 17 years ago, I did the windows for your studio." (03:18)

Serving Two Sides of Miami – Luxury & Low Income

• Luxury Market

  • Esteban has installed windows in some of Miami’s most exclusive properties, often for NDA-bound high-net-worth clients.
  • He notes the responsibility and pride in serving clients at the top echelon.

• Low-Income Housing

  • Infinite Windows’ origins trace back to community housing projects, which remain foundational to the business today.
  • Esteban emphasizes loyalty to earlier clients and the spirit of Miami:

    "Low income housing is how we were born...Most of our clients from 20 years ago are still our clients." (06:39 & 07:14) "That's what the soul of Miami is." (07:20)

Bridging the Gap: Windows to AI

• Early Passion for Technology

  • Esteban originally aspired to be a software engineer, but parental pressure rerouted him to business.
  • Quote:

    "Technology, computers have always been my passion. I wanted to become a software engineer...my parents wouldn't let me." (08:20)

• Tech Evolution in Construction

  • Despite not coding, Esteban leveraged software and systems early in his business, ahead of industry peers.
  • Reflects on the changing narrative around learning to code as AI increasingly automates these skills:

    "I never learned how to code...now it's hard for them [coders] to figure out that all that code can be done by AI." (09:32 & 10:09) "I mean, it must be terrible too that they spent so many years learning how to code and then all of a sudden...everybody's able to code all of a sudden to an extent, right?" (10:12)

Innovating for the Real Needs of Contractors

• From the Field, Not the Lab

  • Esteban critiques most industry software as out-of-touch, made by people lacking direct construction experience.
  • Quote:

    "Most of the competition comes from labs that have never gone through what I go through every single day...The best software or program for a window company was never going to come out of a lab. It was going to come out of a window company." (00:30 & 13:58)

• Building an iOS for Construction

  • Esteban’s new AI platform connects field and office, integrates with real workflows, and adapts through user-experience—not theoretical software design.

  • He describes his system as "the iOS of construction":

    "What I did was I created, basically think about it as a iOS, the iOS of construction. Okay, we have an iOS where it's full of applications..." (11:54)

  • The unique challenge:

    "We deal with the installation team, where most of them, they don't even speak English, ...they only use WhatsApp, for example. ...How do you make them part of the organization? Because without them, they're 50% of the content." (12:25) "You gotta speak their language, you gotta use the tools that they already use, and you gotta put it all together in a way that it makes everybody's life easier." (12:33)

• The Power and Caution of AI Context

  • Esteban details integrating 20 years of company context, documents, and frustrations into his LLM-powered systems:

    "Imagine being able to feed 20 years of experience, frustrations, mistakes into a program and that every decision that you ask it, it responds based on all the full context." (16:41)

  • Warns about AI's illusion of easy solutions—true value depends on real-world context, not just fancy interfaces.

The Urgency for Industry Adaptation

• Disruption is Here

  • Esteban points out that small and medium-sized businesses risk being left behind if they don’t adapt to the AI revolution.

    "What I'm concerned about truly is that all those construction small and medium sized companies won't be able to adapt fast enough. AI is moving so quick that it will leave people behind." (00:30 & 20:01)

  • Notes that while past technological changes in construction were slow ("it was a slow change"), AI is accelerating disruption:

    "AI is moving so quick that it will leave people behind." (20:41)

  • His solution: building systems companies can tailor and expand—his construction iOS—rather than rely on slow-moving, inflexible tools from large incumbents.

Personal Reclamation of a "Shelved Dream"

• Career Fulfillment & Family

  • Esteban shares that, after years of business-building, he’s finally pursuing his passion for technology and spending more time with family.

    "I'm excited of this new stage of my career because I'm doing what I. I'm passionate about. It was a dream that I shelved 25 years ago, and I'm finally able to work on it." (21:55) "I'm excited that now I have two kids so I can share it with them as well. I can spend more time with them because honestly, I haven't been able. Being a business owner is really time consuming." (22:11)

  • He’s committed to making his company work for him—not the other way around.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Soul of Miami:

  "That's what the soul of Miami is...Most people that don't live in Miami...they see is, you know, the houses. The beach, the glam and the glitch...But they forget that all the people, you know, they gotta have a place to live."
  — Esteban Kadamani (07:20–07:40)

• On Technology from Experience:

  "The best software or program for a window company was never going to come out of a lab. It was going to come out of a window company. Because that's the only people that really know how the workflow and how everything is connected..."
  — Esteban Kadamani (13:58)

• On AI and Coding:

  "Most coders right now are having trouble because they're so used to actually coding and it's hard for them to figure out that all that code can be done by AI...I mean, it must be terrible too that they spent so many years learning how to code and then all of a sudden...everybody's able to code all of a sudden to an extent, right?"
  — Esteban Kadamani (10:09–10:12)

• On Using Real Context for AI:

  "Imagine being able to feed 20 years of experience, frustrations, mistakes into a program and that every decision that you ask it, it responds based on all the full context."
  — Esteban Kadamani (16:41)

• On Achieving Freedom:

  "I'm trying to make my company work as my company now works for me instead of me working for my company."
  — Esteban Kadamani (22:27)

• On What’s Next:

  “I’m excited of this new stage of my career because I’m doing what I…am passionate about. It was a dream that I shelved 25 years ago, and I’m finally able to work on it.”
  — Esteban Kadamani (21:55)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:12] – Esteban on identity, Miami vs. Colombia
• [03:18] – Full circle: realising he installed podcast studio’s windows
• [05:14]–[07:14] – Explaining Infinite Windows’ dual focus: luxury homes and low-income housing
• [08:20]–[10:12] – Early passion for computing, parental influence, tech’s changing value
• [11:54]–[13:26] – Building an “iOS for construction”; experience-driven tech vs. lab-built
• [16:41] – Feeding experience into AI, context building for LLMs
• [20:41]–[21:18] – The risk of leaving small/medium contractors behind as AI accelerates
• [21:55] – Pursuing his reclaimed tech dream; integrating career and family

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How to Find Esteban

• Website: Open Strategos AI
• Instagram: @estebancadamani
• Twitter: @EstanKadamani

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Tone & Takeaway

The episode is both inspirational and practical. Esteban’s candid, grounded approach reveals not only his resilience and entrepreneurial mindset, but also how legacy is built from community impact and personal ambition. His insights offer encouragement—and a wake-up call—to anyone in a traditional industry facing rapid technological change: adapt, or risk falling behind. The conversation is rich in actionable wisdom for blending real-world experience with technological innovation.

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Transcript

[Esteban Kadamani]

I've done thousands of homes throughout Florida the past 20 years. Well, we do low income housing, but I've also been involved dealing face to face with the biggest names in the world. Believe it or not, I mean, 16, 17 years ago, I did the windows for your studio.

[Narrator/Host Introduction]

Esteban Kadamani is a visionary entrepreneur, innovator and the founder of Infinite Windows and Citadel. Drawing from two decades of building innovative business systems, he empowers contractors to use AI to work smarter, grow faster and stay competitive.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Most of the competition comes from labs that have never gone through what I go through every single day, that don't know how construction truly works. The best software or program for a window company was never going to come out of a lab. It was going to come out of a window company. What I'm concerned about truly is that all those construction small and medium sized companies won't be able to adapt fast enough. AI is moving so quick quick that it will leave people behind. It spans the globe like a super highest cold Internet Elvis Pres. Today, Apple is going to reinvent the

[Podcast Intro Voice]

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[Podcast Host]

Hey, welcome back everyone to another episode of Living your legacy podcast. And yeah, we got a really special one because it's almost like his full circle coming around talking about the new Miami beach studios and we'll get into that. But it's honestly, you know, a privilege to have this dude here with us today. But yeah, what's your name, what's your business and where are you from?

[Esteban Kadamani]

So my name is Esteban Kadamani. I'm originally from Colombia. My business is I have my infinite Windows company and I also have my AI company which is open straticals and yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So you're a Miami guy right now?

[Esteban Kadamani]

I am a Miami guy. I've lived here more than I've lived in the in Colombia, which is crazy because I feel like a Colombian guy. But you know, it's. I've been here since 2001 and believe it or not, I mean if you think about it, 2001, it feels so near. But it's also 25 years ago.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, it's completely different, I'm sure.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Well, Miami has gone through a lot of different phases.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And yeah. So why I'm so excited that you're here, sitting here and you've come full circle, Right. Because you're the Miami windows guy and you've done a lot of windows around the city. You including Dun Dun Dun Dun. This building right here, our new studios. Right. But you didn't even know.

[Esteban Kadamani]

I didn't. I realized when I was walking in.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And it's, you know, it's a funny story because I've done thousands of homes throughout Florida the past 20 years, and I drove through Collins Avenue 100 million times. But I didn't realize this is because there used to be an Aldo store here.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Esteban Kadamani]

So I remembered it in my head as the Aldo store. Once they removed that logo, it's completely forgotten. But when I was walking in, I'm like, this looks familiar. Happens that 16, 17 years ago, I did the windows for your studio.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Nice.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And, you know.

[Podcast Host]

And they're still here.

[Esteban Kadamani]

They're still here.

[Podcast Host]

They're still the original windows.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah. I opened the door, I'm like, oh, my God. I remember when the installers, you know, using the scaffolds and how we got them all onto the second floor because it's a 2. An open window where you gotta, you know, you gotta install the ones on the second floor and you have nowhere to stand, so you gotta assemble scaffolds and all that.

[Podcast Host]

And now seeing kind of the next generation of what this building has become. Right. It must be pretty wild.

[Esteban Kadamani]

You know, from the outside, you can't really tell, but when you open the door and you walk in and you start seeing all those posters and you see the. The design and the love, the energy.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

That's when it really hits you. You feel like in a. In a movie, in a theater. It just feels great.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

I'm happy to be here.

[Podcast Host]

We're still getting the outside done, right?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

But, yeah, it's. You still get that element of surprise. Right. Since it's not done, hopefully you keep

[Esteban Kadamani]

it that way because it looks amazing

[Podcast Host]

the way it is.

[Esteban Kadamani]

It's the art deco that we use. I. But I'm sure that after seeing everything I saw on the inside, whatever happens that you guys do on the outside, I'm sure it's going to be incredible as well.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Rudy has done a fantastic job with this place, and he did it so fast. It's insane.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Right. I mean, every single detail. We were just talking about the popcorns. They're everywhere. It's like he didn't miss any single detail around it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Well, let's bring it back to you. Right. So I mean, windows and then. AI Right. It's like, okay, how do you go from the windows world to the AI world? But let's start off with the windows.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

So you're like the windows guy for Miami, right? Yes. Tell us what that means. Give, give us the spectrum of kind of the low to high.

[Esteban Kadamani]

What is the window guys, why the window professional or why the expert in windows in Florida? It's very simple. I've been doing this for 20 years. There's not many companies out there doing what I do that can say that. But not only that, but I've also been involved and growing for the past 20 years consistently and being able to spend time designing, installing, dealing face to face with the biggest names in the world. The most recognized names in the world. I couldn't even tell you who because we sign in the ACE at that level. But that should tell you a little bit about, well, the kind of people you do.

[Podcast Host]

One side of the spectrum is luxury homes. Yeah. Right. And you're talking about Miami. Who's coming to Miami? All the billionaires. And you got some of the most expensive real estate in the world here. Right. So when you're talking about you doing the windows for these places. Yes. You are talking about you got NDAs, like level people that you can't even say you did their windows because they're of that caliber. Celebrity or businessman. Right.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

But then what's great is on the other spectrum side of the spectrum, what are the other windows that you're doing?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, we do low income housing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Why haven't we, you know, why do we do. When, when you're doing high end, it's like, oh, you know, why would you be doing both spectrums? And it's very simple. Low income housing is how we were born. That's how we. Infinite Windows grew up to be what it was and how it became a recognized company. And we still believe that low income housing is apartments, condos. It's part of my end. Most of our clients from 20 years ago are still our clients today. And that's what they do.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

So, you know, we're not going to tell them we don't do low income housing. In fact, we love it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

It's a. It also gives you the.

[Podcast Host]

That's what the soul of Miami is.

[Esteban Kadamani]

It is. And you know, most people that don't live in Miami that travel and are tourists, they all they see is, you know, the houses.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. The beach, the glam and the glitch. Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

The expensive restaurants are. That are becoming even more expensive every day. But they Forget that. All the people, you know, they, they gotta have a place to live. And the old Cubans, like the, The Hialeah, the 8th street, which you drive through there. And it's amazing, that cultural feel. I love it.

[Podcast Host]

The Vibrass. The Vibrass, yes.

[Esteban Kadamani]

But they, you know, they need a place to live and we do that work as well. What we don't do is much is kind of like in the middle because you can't do everything. You got to focus on one or the other. Yeah. And to us it was the high end homes and the low income housing.

[Podcast Host]

Nice, nice. And how do you go from being the window guy to being the AI guy?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Now, you know, if I tell you that that has always. Technology, computers have always been my passion. I wanted to become a software engineer.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

You know, that's what I wanted to study. But back then, 2000, 2001, being a software engineer was basically being a technician that fixes computers. So my parents wouldn't let me.

[Podcast Host]

Das, right?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

With the green screen and that little green flicking space. Yeah. You know, the Internet back then, of course.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And so, yeah, I mean my parents who were sacrificing everything, my grandparents were sacrificing everything to put me here, they didn't want me to waste those years studying computers when I could be doing business administration because they knew that I always wanted to become a business owner, an entrepreneur, and had a lot of ambition. They just didn't see it in computers like that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So then you had to give up that dream. You started working Windows, grew that to a phenomenally amazing company. And then you're like, wait a minute, my passion is software. You got all this AI, of course you're keeping up to date with it, you know, so you got to kind of integrate your passion with your work.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Right. With. Well, it wasn't like I waited 20 years to go back to computers. I mean, I've always been ahead of the industry when it comes to software and systems and programs. The problem is that I never learned how to code. And I think that's the biggest challenge for most people before AI, nobody that knew how to code. Do you remember a couple years ago that everybody was talking about, you gotta teach your kids to, to go to, you know, to code.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Because it's the future.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

I mean, and look at it.

[Podcast Host]

That backfired.

[Esteban Kadamani]

That backfired.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Sorry. Rewind, guys.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And you know, it's sad because most coders right now are having trouble because they're so used to actually coding and it's Hard for them to figure out that all that code can be done by AI. Yeah, I know. I mean, it must be terrible too that they spent so many years learning how to code and then all of a sudden something, you know, everybody's able to code all of a sudden to an extent, right?

[Podcast Host]

I mean.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Oh, absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

Of course, it's always gonna get improved little by little and the coder is gonna have an advantage over you, just like the graphic designer. And they say, okay, it can now graphic design, but any graphic designer that looks at what the AI is producing, the slop, you know, there's. There's a difference. Right.

[Esteban Kadamani]

But they gotta be open minded.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And that's the biggest thing for them right now. You know, you guys have a. The biggest. You guys are geniuses, first of all, because after vibe coding for so many months, it's like, oh my God, how the hell did someone was able to create this, you know, by. By memory, basically. But they cannot be, because it would happen to anyone. It could happen to a doctor, it could be the most important doctor. But if robots come in and they start doing the same surgeries that they do for a fraction of the price, doesn't mean that the doctors are going to sit behind and watch. They have to evolve and they have to create new things using this new technology. So they have an advantage.

[Podcast Host]

You are Vibe coding. What are you vibe coding for your company?

[Esteban Kadamani]

What I did was I created, basically think about it as a iOS, the iOS of construction. Okay, we have an iOS where it's full of applications because you see now there's a lot of companies creating software for reading plans, the other one to be able to, you know, follow up with invoices, the other one to. For customer service and sales. But none of them, they're all done in a lab. They, you know, these engineers don't really know how construction works because construction is completely different from what we are used to. We deal with the installation team, where most of them, they don't even speak English, where these people, they only use WhatsApp, for example. They don't know how to use email. Or they do, but they would never go into a computer and respond an email to learn from here. They don't know. So how do you make them part of the organization? Because without them, they're 50% of the content. So you got to speak their language, you got to use the tools that they already use, and you got to put it all together in a way that it makes everybody's life easier because they have to see the Benefit.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. If it ain't easier, then they ain't

[Esteban Kadamani]

changed, they won't do it and they won't use it. So you got to make it easier for them. But the only way for you to be able to know how to make it easier for them is by being them and being part of it for

[Podcast Host]

20 years, having been there, done that.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Exactly.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And so are you also using LLMs and kind of feeding the construction language and the kind of all the work into a large language model where it gets to know?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, I think that's the key of everything because I think that where LLMs and AI in general lacks is that it has little context or specifics of every single industry.

[Podcast Host]

But you have 20 years of context.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Exactly. So that's why I said that the best software or program for a window company was never going to come out of a lab. It was going to come out of our window company. Yeah. Because that's the only people that really know how the workflow and how everything is connected and works. I had a huge issue on my previous CRM, which was based on Web2 that I didn't code. I had a real software engineer do for me any was that.

[Podcast Host]

Which is also frustrating. It's got its own nuances compared to vibe coding. Right. Working with developers is also like, ah, you know, there's, there's time, there's maybe skills that they lack. Right. You got to work with what you have.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, now I understand why it took them so long.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Because I have no idea how they create 60,000 lines of code.

[Podcast Host]

You know, the flowcharts is crazy.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Crazy. And for me, you know, for me to tell them, just, I want this button to be one inch to the right. I don't want to hear, you know, and it will take them a couple days to do that. You know, now I understand better. Also, I don't have to wait for someone else to create my vish.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

I can test it. I can, I can create it, I can test it and I could make it run my company in the morning.

[Podcast Host]

Correct. Instead of the meeting, the back and forth and then them going, doing the work and coming back, you're just literally, you know, it's like you're sitting side by side with your developer and able to just tell him and he does it automatically, just like this. Five minutes later you're speaking about the

[Esteban Kadamani]

LLMs and the context.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

The only way that truly works because everything looks nice. And LLMs and you know, AI in general, they are so good at making you Feel like, like you've created something huge when you really haven't.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And I think that's one of the biggest challenges. And that's why, you know, there's a front end, there's a backend, there's the context and then there's the. All the data. You know, how do you put all this together? And that's the key. And when it comes to LLMs, I think that being able to create and teach the context to them so they can produce better information and better answers is where it all starts. Yeah. At the beginning is very frustrating.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. But I guess with 20 years of emails with customers, with invoices, with customers, and, and just, I mean, all the different contracts and permits that you can kind of feed that into your own model and it's, it's more specialized, like you said.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, imagine being able to feed 20 years of experience, frustrations, mistakes into a program and that every decision that you ask it, it responds based on all the full context. That's what I used to do, because the owls that LLM. But it's impossible. It's impossible to be able to. Your company needs to run by itself. Yeah, it does. It can't require the owner for every decision.

[Podcast Host]

So do you go to conferences a lot?

[Esteban Kadamani]

I don't. And I'm gonna start.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. I was gonna say, you know, inside the construction conferences, there must be the tech sector. Right. And I remember going to travel conferences that there was a travel tech sector.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

There must be AI. You know, it's like first to market. Right. Have you seen competition kind of that you're competing with?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, yes, I have. The problem is, that is what I told you before. Most of the competition comes from labs, larger companies, startups in Silicon Valley that have never gone through what I go through every single day, that don't know how construction truly works. They're going to sell you a $100 per user app that solves maybe one problem, but that your installers and most of your people won't use. We tried them all. We tried, and I won't say names, but we've tried every single one of them. We spent so much money into them, and it's impossible to customize it and to make it work for you and for your own workflow. So that's what I did. You know, I started thinking, well, how those, all these large corporations, obviously it's harder for them to steer that ship, but how are they able to, you know, make changes and create software and, and start building all these workflows? For them to work. And you know, my wife works for a Fortune 500 company and it's a public company. It's a, you know, huge company is nothing to do with technology though. But when I started seeing that they use Excel spreadsheets for creating budgets, I'm talking about multi million dollar budgets, I couldn't believe it. You know, I, I'm like, this is a public company with hundreds of millions of dollars of budgets where I created on a single Excel file.

[Podcast Host]

Well, that's because whales move slow. You know, it's the startups and the disruptors that are able to pivot fastly and just hit the ground running. You got an idea, it's a boom, build it.

[Esteban Kadamani]

But then you have the other side of the coin. This is the large companies and then you have the, the very small companies. You know, the, that installer that was so good at what he did and that he wanted to open his own window company. Or that kid that his dad used to be a carpenter and now he wants to sell kitchens. They've done this their business and they've worked on their business the same way for many years and it has worked for them so far and it's probably going to continue to work in a way. The problem is that they need to become more efficient, they need to become their comp. Because if they don't do it, their competition works. What I'm concerned about truly is that all those construction small and medium sized companies won't be able to adapt fast enough. Yeah. And I've seen it for 20 years. You know, it took window companies so long to be able to start using PDF plans, for example. Everything was blueprints, you know, and everybody else was using PDF and digital plans or digital word documents but us, we had to literally print the large 36 inch pages to be able to read a plan and produce quotes. I see the same thing happening now. Now why didn't it affect back then construction companies? Because it was a slow change. But AI is moving so quick that it will leave people behind. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You get that AI anxiety because it's too fast. Right. It's like you gotta get into it. But it's like, do you really need to get into it because it's stressful, right? It is, it's like the newest tool and then there's like five of them and six.

[Esteban Kadamani]

That's why I decided to create an iOS for it. Because you're able to create new applications as you go.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

The most important thing is that everything is inside the same context of what you've taught it from the company, reading every single conversation that happens with clients. Talk to understand what the client's priorities are and what they've chosen. And being able to add as you go. Something comes up, you add it as an application.

[Podcast Host]

Correct. Yeah. Well, I asked everyone, what are you most excited about? It could be personal, it could be business. What's going on?

[Esteban Kadamani]

You know, I'm excited of this new stage of my career because I'm doing what I. I'm passionate about. It was a dream that I shelved 25 years ago, and I'm finally able to. To work on it.

[Podcast Host]

Nice.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And I'm excited that now I have two kids so I can share it with them as well. I can spend more time with them because honestly, I haven't been able. Being a business owner is really time consuming. Most business owners out there know what I'm feeling.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Esteban Kadamani]

And that's another thing I'm trying to change. You know, I'm trying to make my company work as my company now works for me instead of me working for my company.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That's amazing. Well, yeah. The world of AI is so exciting. You know, it's started to become the iron man.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah. And there's gonna be. Things are gonna change dramatically.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I've seen what they're developing with AI like this one dude, he's got this whole Iron man system. And then he's got this, like, whole thing of, like, his agents. Okay. And he's got this, like, screen of all his different agents. They're, like, hanging out at the beach. Some are surfing, some are sunbathing, some are having a barbecue. Right. And then he calls a meeting and everyone goes to the kind of like, dinner picnic table. And then he says, okay, marketing team, give me the update. And then the marketing teams go up to, like, the podium, and then they start giving him all the updates of what happened in the past 24 hours since they, like, they spent. Okay. Your marketing spend was this. He's like, okay, give me the HR department. And then the HR department comes, right? Yeah. And then. Yeah, he's got all these different eyes for all these different departments. Right. And then after that, they go back to kind of surfing or whatever, you know.

[Podcast Intro Voice]

Wow.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's really, really cool.

[Esteban Kadamani]

You know, people are humans. We are very creative. Yeah. And I think that this is going to bring out a lot of creativity from people because it gives them the tools that they didn't have that they had to school. They had to go four years or three years to school to learn how to do. I am a big Elon Musk fan. I like his vision. I like what he has created and the way that he sees the world is there's opportunity for everyone.

[Podcast Host]

Well, it's been a pleasure to have you on the show. And yeah, I can keep on talking a few hours, right?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Stay here for a moment.

[Podcast Host]

But yeah, to have the dude that kind of did our windows and now you're sitting in the podcast because you're a huge success here in Miami and to have a good Miami guy come in, it's been a pleasure. So once again, how do people find you?

[Esteban Kadamani]

Well, they can go to openstradicals. AI Penny, spell that. Open Strategos S T R A G E O S Strategos AI.

[Podcast Host]

All right, perfect. And any other thing on social media where they can. They can find you on everything.

[Esteban Kadamani]

Yeah, they can go to my instagram. It's @estebancadamani. E S T E B A N K A D A M A N I Esteban Kadamani. Or my Twitter, Estan Kadamani. Or you can just search. My name is so peculiar, my last name in particular, and the combination of probably the only estimate, Kadamani, that you search me online and you're going to find me. All right. All right.

[Podcast Host]

Well, that's amazing. And yeah, that's America's best builders. If you want to, you know, kind of check out what's going on with the people that are top of their industry, be it window installers, construction people, H vac people, but the people that are building the newest and biggest cities of America, then, yeah, tune into this show and tune into his episode. It's a really cool one. And thank you, guys. We'll see you next time. Cheers, everyone.