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So many people were suffering from anxiety and depression. And we realized that doctors were really, really quick at prescribing drugs that people got hooked on, physically hooked for life. And we wanted to give people an option to be able to explore a holistic way that actually works and you don't have to just mask symptoms.
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We just knew that there had to be an alternative treatment, a tool. So it's a way to help get past all that stress and anxiety naturally with no bad side effects.
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Amy Stankoven and Jan Trembli are the bold, purpose driven founders of Microwake, a premium functional mushroom supplement brand to help combat anxiety and depression. Their mission goes beyond business. They're building a community that believes in holistic healing, second chances, and transforming struggle into strength. The testimonies we've had, we didn't know how the public was going to respond, but it's been overwhelming. We have so many returned customers and testimonies, people thanking us for changing their lives.
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Other people out there, maybe they're experiencing some pain problem, but they're a bit scared to make the jump. Right. And you've been through it now. You've got some success and the brand's growing and it's great. But what would you say to someone that's maybe in that early stage and a bit fearful of taking that leap?
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If you can just face everything and just know that.
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Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Legacy Makers. Today I'm with the founders of Microwake, and these guys are mushroom Xs experts. And let me tell you, there's a lot of powerful things going on for mushrooms. It's not just about prepping them in the kitchen. And we're going to dive into that today. And they're helping a lot of people get. Get rid of a lot of problems that most Americans and everyday people face. Anxiety and a bunch of different things that maybe people are struggling and they don't have a good fix with regular medicine or regular pharmaceuticals. So excited for this episode. Welcome, guys.
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Thank you. We're excited for having it.
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So. So you guys are mushroom experts, right? I joke a little, but. But I know there's a lot of, you know, mushrooms have got. I've been in the health space for many years and I think about 10 years ago they got really big and popular in the, like the biohacking, health, longevity, focus, cognitive space. Can you tell us the story behind what you guys do and the products and the brand?
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Absolutely. We started mostly during the lockdowns, during the COVID lockdowns because so many people were suffering from anxiety and depression. And we realized that doctors really quick at prescribing drugs that people got hooked on, physically hooked for life. And we wanted to give people an option to be able to explore a holistic way that actually works. And you don't have to just mask symptoms, but you can actually eventually get rid of whether it's anxiety, depression, adhd, ptsd.
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And how does, how do mushrooms help with that?
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Yeah, so basically a small amount of a microdose type mushroom over a period of a few weeks or months can actually rewire neural pathways. So our brains, they go down a certain pathway. We'll have a certain thought, goes down a certain route, leads to a certain emotion. We get a certain outcome and that's just the way it goes. So with microdosing mushrooms, you can actually change the way the brain actually perceives information and you'll actually start to have these aha moments and new ways of seeing things. So things that may have triggered you in the past or felt really heavy, you might look at it a different way and it might feel lighter. So you're actually able to get to the root of causing the issue.
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And yeah, and I know a lot, you know, not all medicines bad. Obviously some medicine out there can save your life. But I know a lot of medicines, you know, maybe in this case as an example, sometimes it just blunts the pathway, right. So it turns it off. And that's why a lot of people that go on, especially medication for anything cognitive or mood related, it just, it's like a, it brings them down, right. But it keeps them down. And as you mentioned, it doesn't always cure the problem. It just, you know, just dwells them. So I think there's a, and it's interesting, you know, the whole anxiety, stress, depression, obviously mushrooms are one way, but there's a lot of, you know, exercise in another proven way to, to fix those things. Right. And sunlight is another proven way. And you know, it's interesting how I do think in the last 10 years or few years especially, there's been a big movement to the holistic, more natural remedies versus the, you know, the generic prescription remedy. So what made you guys want to get into this.
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Yeah, it was actually a routine doctor visit for myself during the lockdowns. And my physician was very quick to try to prescribe me an antidepressant, anti anxiety medication. And with my background as a dental hygienist, I knew right away walking out of there, the list of the many, many bad side effects and how addictive this medication was. And I'd never taken medication in my life. Yan had been talking to me about microdosing for a year or before that. And I was very, very hesitant. I was like, no way. Like I'm not trying this. But after that appointment, that was kind of my aha moment where I was like, okay, there's gotta be another way. Like this can't be it. And like you mentioned before, the doctors didn't ask about am I getting enough sleep, water, all those factors. So I went right down the rabbit hole, did a lot of research and looked at the clinical studies and trials that are coming out and yeah, was not opposed to it after that. And the, the idea of microw knowing at the time where we would be today, we just knew that there had to be an alternative treatment, a tool. So it's a way to help get past all that stress and anxiety naturally with no bad side effects.
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Yeah, and I think it's, you know, with doctors. I came from the sports nutrition world and I know some doctors and unless they go and do their own research, most of them do one little module in a seven night, seven or nine year old, you know, study on, on, on natural remedies. Right. And they're just, you know, they get, follow it like if you work at McDonald's, you follow a protocol of making the burger and they follow a protocol of oh, these symptoms. This is our list of what we prescribe. And they have 15 minutes and here you go, off you go. Right. And, and it's really, you know, we do live in a world where it's our responsibility to then go seek out other options. You know, they're doing quote unquote. Their job is to then prescribe something for a symptom, whether that's right or wrong. I think most people understand that isn't always the best way. But then it has to be, you know, your responsibility to go figure out that option, which obviously you guys did. And it led to this great brand. So, so, so talk to us now. Then the, you know, it started as a personal thing, but now how the customers come in through what, what are they starting to experience and get help with from your product line and what are the main products you have?
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Absolutely, absolutely. So, yeah, we worked with naturopathic doctors and. Oh yeah, Ann, I'll let you take over.
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So we knew our products was great. We worked on four years before we launched because we had to work with different naturopathic doctors because sometimes some herbs are amazing, but if you mix them with other herbs, they might not be so amazing or if someone's on certain medication. We had to know what can interact with what. So we did have to revamp a few blends over and over. So by the time we launch, we're very confident that if someone had any questions we were able to answer and the testimonies we've had. We didn't know how the public was going to respond, but it's been overwhelming. We have so many return customers and testimonies, people thanking us for changing their lives. Whether it's people that were stuck in their homes for months because they had too much anxiety to leave their house or someone who, you know, almost lost relationship because their OCD was too strong, it's been pretty amazing. And we feel like it's our responsibility to keep growing throughout the world, not just through our products, but just holistic healing overall. It needs to be heard more.
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It's funny how, you know, not just your product, but there's a lot of cognitive problems. Anxiety, depression, adhd, mood, energy levels that, you know, often are rooted in a nutrient deficiency. Right. Whatever nutrient that could be. And you know, it's. It's fascinating how just getting blood work can be a great start to understand where you're at. And then taking some great natural remedies can really help change someone's life. You know, like someone that suffered with depression or anxiety or whatever for many, many years. And just figuring that out is so fascinating how that can be life changing. So what are the main three or four things people are experiencing? Right. Is I imagine it's energy, mood, those sort of things. What are the main outcomes people are seeing?
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Absolutely. Well, one of our, actually our main bestseller is called gocapps. It has been since day one and it is meant for focus and energy and mental clarity. What we didn't realize is how much of an impact it was going to have on people with adhd. The main thing is they keep coming back because not only is helping them with the ADHD and they're able to focus on one thing at a time, but they're getting that thirst for life again. They're getting their creative side again because a lot of ADHD medications, it'll help with adhd, but it kind of numbs them down a little bit. It kind of takes that thirst for life away. They lose their creative side. And we had no idea when we made this blend that it was going to be such a hit with adhd. But that's one of the main ones that we've been able to help with.
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Yeah, it doesn't suppress this. Yeah, I was going to say it doesn't suppress their true self. And our other main blend would be our bliss or our happy cap. So that one there, instead of taking a chemical prescription medication to help release serotonin in the brain chemically, the St. John's wort and rhodiola in there naturally help release serotonin. So it's been so amazing to be able to give our customers just that. Hello, holistic alternative. And when we say alternative medicine or functional mushrooms, it's crazy to think that thousands of years ago this was the medicine from the original.
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A lot of them didn't even need it because they were having sunlight and exercise. Absolutely. You know, but, but they wouldn't eat naturally, you know, consume it. Right. But, but yeah, you know, our world is turned upside down with microwave.
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We like to think that we're awakening their true pacific potential and their true self again. So getting back to the, the original healers.
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So if someone's listening, what are they experiencing? Is it instant they take it the first time? Is it like some supplements where it has to dose in the body and build up like creatine for a month or how?
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It really depends if our blends, we do have 31 different blends now. Originally we only had a few to help with depression and anxiety, adhd, but we also have some for sleep, some for gut health, some for hormone balance. So let's say you want to take care of your gut. You can just take one capsule and feel that your gut's better already. You have to be consistently daily for a few weeks and eventually changes. But some of our microdosing plans, like GoCaps or Bliss, for example, yes, the long term effects are amazing because that's when you're able to rewire neural pathways. But usually within half an hour to an hour, you will feel the effects. You're going to feel little things that usually trigger you, don't trigger you. Your mood is a little bit better, your mental clarity, the cobwebs seems to go away.
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And with these, you know, obviously some other supplements and stuff like caffeine, you become tolerant to it. Right. Where you see the effects when you Start but a year later you're now caffeine tolerant and you don't feel as much. Does that happen here?
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It would. We always. And it is on the website and it is on each pack but we always tell people give yourself a good two days off per week, whatever that looks like to you. Everyone, we're all wired differently.
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Yeah.
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For myself for example, I use go caps. I have been for the last five years and my own routine with it is one day on, one day off. I don't build a tolerance but some people will go five days on, two days off. I always tell people, really pay attention to how you feel because again we're all wired differently and just go with whatever works for you.
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Yeah. And it's just the synergy of the ingredients like you mentioned and with Matcha green tea and a few of our blends you don't get that spike in a crash like you would with a coffee or other sources of caffeine. It's a nice sustainable energy. But it's true just to self monitor to see.
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Yeah. And what about someone's listening, they're fascinated by it but they're scared to take it.
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Oh yeah. So it's very, very smallest. That would have been my first experience, my first time it sat for a good two or three months before I would even take one capsule. So yeah, you're, you're not going to expect things aren't going to move, you can still work, drive, you're not going.
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To see rainbows and stuff.
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With micro it's. Yeah, it's more in there for that long term brain health benefit. So basically you'll feel the other ingredients more. For example in our bliss or happy caps you get a Z peaceful feeling. It helps with the anxiety. But the ginkgo biloba and lion's mane in there help you stay present so you can feel peaceful but you can still do your dishes or go to work and focus on your tasks. It just makes things a little lighter. And if someone's looking to feel something. Yeah, micro isn't the way to go. Micro is for the brain health and for the long term health benefits.
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And what I usually tell people to because it is a micro dosing people feel, you know, some people are scared of it but a lot of the times what I tell people is sometimes you don't even notice that you took it. But at the end of the day you look back at your day and you're like, you know what? This would have triggered me. It didn't. This was, would have Stressed me out. It didn't. This would anger me. It didn't. And that's when you know it's working.
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Love that last couple of questions then. You know, you've obviously started to build this brand. It's going well, you've got all the product lines, you're changing lots of people's lives and it's great that it came out of your own story. I love that, you know, I love that about a lot of entrepreneurs here. But let's talk about the legacy side for a little bit. You know, how do you want to change the world? What's the, you know, the legacy side of your mission?
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Absolutely.
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One of our main, main goals with Microec is we want to be the company used in all of North America to treat with anxiety and depression for clinical trials. So we're definitely pushing towards that. There hasn't been enough. There needs to be more clinical trials and our, one of our biggest mission is to be the company used for that.
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Yeah. And we're not cutting any corners. We're going one step at a time. Yep.
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So that's our main. They're making us jump through a lot of hoops but we' we're happy to do it. It's not cheap either but you know, if you want to be the company, you got to do things that other companies aren't willing to do.
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Yeah, totally. And would love. I always like to ask other people out there, maybe they're experiencing some pain problem, they have this idea for a brand or a product to fix it like you did a few years ago, but they're a bit scared to make the jump. Right. And you've been through it now, you've got some success and the brand's growing and it's great. But what would you say to someone that's maybe in that early stage and a bit fearful of taking that leap?
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Do it scared. Just keep going. Life rarely happens how you expect it, so you're going to go through a lot of, a lot of bumps on the road. But stick to your why. If you have a big why, the how's going to figure itself out. The little obstacles again, you're going to run through, you're going to be happy to run through them. If your why is not big enough, you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
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Yeah, it's easy to stay stuck in the system. Like I had a good career, I left full time dental hygienist. So some people may look at me like, wow, you're crazy to do this. You Know the whole career change and work on your entrepreneurship goals. But the thing is the reward at the end of the day, not that I don't love oral hygiene and my patients, but the thing is, we can touch so many lives worldwide with our products and just this holistic movement. We hope to create a ripple effect. So that sacrifice of, you know, the discomfort and all the growing pains, all those challenges that anyone at the beginning will face, it's just bound to happen. You know, this isn't for everyone. So if you can just face everything and just know that there is a solution to every problem and just stay, like Yan said, focused on your why, everything will sort itself out. And you'll, You'll. You'd rather look back with being proud of how far you've made it than look back with your gut saying, I wish I would have started 100%.
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Yeah, love that. Good. Last question. People are fascinated. They want to try it or search more, learn more about the products. Where do they go to do that?
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Yeah, so we have a website, www.microwake.com. or you can message us on Facebook or Instagram. Instagram, it's Micro Wake. And on Facebook, Microwake.
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Don't be shy. Any questions? We're used to it. All we want to do is help you. Without your testimonies and without us being able to help you, we can't grow as a company. So we need you to. To ask all the questions, please.
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Good. Love it. Well, there you go, guys. Check them out. And as always, keep working hard, have an impact, and build a legacy. I'll see you guys soon. Take care.