Reconnecting Mind, Body, and Spirit Through Breathwork

Summary

Podcast Summary:

Living Your Legacy – Reconnecting Mind, Body, and Spirit Through Breathwork
Host: Rudy Mawer
Guest: Jeremy Mudich (Wellness Innovator, Cold Water Immersion Guide, Founder of Reconnect Mind, Body, and Resurrect Breathwork)
Date: October 6, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of Living Your Legacy takes a deep dive into the true power of breathwork as a tool for personal transformation. Host Rudy Mawer converses with wellness expert Jeremy Mudich, breaking down how intentional breathing goes far beyond physical biohacking to facilitate inner healing, emotional release, and self-mastery. The discussion covers Jeremy’s journey, the evolution of his unique approach to breathwork, his “You were the cause, you were the cure” philosophy, and practical insights entrepreneurs and anyone seeking self-improvement can apply.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breathwork: More Than Biohacking ([00:28]-[04:07])

• Initial Perceptions: Rudy describes his early impression of Jeremy’s facility—expecting it to be focused solely on health and longevity through machines and cold immersion, only to discover the work was much deeper.

• Jeremy’s Approach:

  • Rather than using cold water and “biohacks” just for physical benefits, Jeremy uses these experiences to help people connect to their emotions and inner selves.
  • Quote:

    “The water won’t give you what you want, it will give you what you need… you surrender into the present moment, you’ll be able to unlock whatever doors have been shut.” — Jeremy Mudich ([03:08])

• Emotions and Healing: Many suppress emotions and experiences; Jeremy’s process encourages facing and feeling these, rather than numbing out.

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2. The Rise and Role of Breathwork ([05:00]-[06:39])

• Cultural Shift:
  • Breathwork has enjoyed a surge in popularity over the past decade, in large part due to figures like Wim Hof making the practice accessible and less “woo woo.”
  • Distinguishes breathwork from yoga and meditation—breathwork is for everyone, independent of physical practice.
• Therapeutic Use:
  • Breathwork is increasingly recognized as a powerful tool for trauma release and state regulation, delivering benefits beyond mental health counseling.
  • Quote:

    “Breathwork is conscious breathing to shift your state. …This is for every person out there that breathes and is alive.” — Jeremy Mudich ([07:36])

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3. Bridging Embodied Healing and Talk Therapy ([06:39]-[08:07])

• Embodiment vs. Talk:
  • Many are now seeking more physical engagement (embodiment practices) rather than just talk therapy.
  • Jeremy predicts breathwork techniques will become standard in traditional therapy in the next decade.
  • Quote:

    “It gets you into your body and you’ll start speaking the truth.” — Jeremy Mudich ([07:14])

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4. Practical Tools for Self-Regulation ([08:07]-[09:35])

• Simple Techniques:
  • Basic interventions—even lying down or whispering—can shift emotions like anger.
  • Breathwork is a daily tool to self-regulate and break emotional patterns.

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5. Jeremy’s Personal Journey Into Breathwork ([09:35]-[11:53])

• Background: Former professional bodybuilder plagued by anxiety and poor breathing away from the gym.
• Discovery:
  • Tried prayer and meditation with limited effect; found immediate peace and clarity in breathwork.
  • Relates onset of self-discovery and healing to optimizing breathing.
  • Quote:

    “Once I did it, then it clicked—I’ve never felt so calm in my entire life.” — Jeremy Mudich ([10:32])

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6. Breathwork for Breaking Limiting Beliefs ([11:53]-[13:46])

• Entrepreneurs & Growth:
  • Breathwork is not just for healing trauma but for continual personal evolution—even after “handling” the past, new subconscious ceilings emerge.
  • Quote:

    “A belief never goes away. You just take power away from it and give it to its opposite.” — Jeremy Mudich ([12:25])

• Elite Application:
  • Jeremy works with high-level CEOs and notes that breathwork routinely reveals hidden limitations—no matter one’s level of achievement.

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7. Empowerment: “You Were the Cause, You Were the Cure” Philosophy ([13:46]-[14:09])

• Personal Responsibility:

  • Central to Jeremy’s work and message is that the next steps in healing or growth are up to the individual, regardless of what happened in their past.
  • Quote:

    “What happened to you wasn’t your fault. But what you do next is upon you.” — Jeremy Mudich ([14:09])

• Barriers to Responsibility:

  • Many haven’t been taught self-accountability; family and upbringing play a role, but anyone can choose to learn.

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8. Modern Self-Improvement & Access to Tools ([15:33]-[16:57])

• Changing Eras:
  • Today’s world provides unprecedented access to personal development resources, yet self-improvement still requires action.
  • Quote:

    “It’s like the gym—diet and exercise. You gotta go do it.” — Rudy Mawer ([16:51])

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9. Jeremy’s Book: “You Were the Cause, You Were the Cure” ([17:02]-[17:56])

• Content:
  • Part memoir, part practical guide, with breathing techniques and strategies to help readers process anxiety, shift emotions, and show up for themselves and others.
  • Foundational belief: your breath is trapped in your trauma.
  • Quote:

    “The premise of my entire story is that your breath is trapped in your trauma.” — Jeremy Mudich ([17:44])

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10. Episode Takeaway: A Story of Hope ([18:45]-[19:11])

• Inspiration and Empowerment:
  • Jeremy sees his journey as proof that anyone can overcome and evolve, offering listeners hope and practical direction.
  • Quote:

    “What you’re going to learn… it’ll be a story of hope.” — Jeremy Mudich ([18:51])

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Memorable Quotes

• “The water won’t give you what you want, it will give you what you need.” — Jeremy Mudich ([03:08])
• “Breathwork is conscious breathing to shift your state. …This is for every person out there that breathes and is alive.” — Jeremy Mudich ([07:36])
• “I’ve never felt so calm in my entire life.” — Jeremy Mudich ([10:32])
• “A belief never goes away. You just take power away from it and give it to its opposite.” — Jeremy Mudich ([12:25])
• “What happened to you wasn’t your fault. But what you do next is upon you.” — Jeremy Mudich ([14:09])
• “The premise of my entire story is that your breath is trapped in your trauma.” — Jeremy Mudich ([17:44])
• “It’s like the gym—diet and exercise. You gotta go do it.” — Rudy Mawer ([16:51])
• “What you’re going to learn… it’ll be a story of hope.” — Jeremy Mudich ([18:51])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:08] — The role of surrender in healing and “the water gives you what you need”
• [05:30] — Why breathwork exploded in the past decade
• [07:14] — Embodied healing vs. traditional talk therapy
• [10:32] — Jeremy discovers breathwork and its immediate emotional impact
• [12:25] — On limiting beliefs: “A belief never goes away…”
• [14:09] — Taking ownership: “What you do next is upon you”
• [17:44] — “Your breath is trapped in your trauma” concept
• [18:51] — “It’ll be a story of hope”

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Takeaways & Actionable Wisdom

• Breathwork is accessible, effective, and for everyone. Intentional breathing can shift your emotional, mental, and even physical state rapidly, empowering growth and self-regulation.
• Personal responsibility is essential. While you can’t control all that’s happened to you, the next step is always within your power.
• Healing is layered and ongoing. As you break through old limits, new ones may appear; tools like breathwork help you recognize and release them.
• Hope is real, and change is possible. Real-life stories and practical frameworks—like Jeremy’s unique system—offer a roadmap to anyone seeking transformation.

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For more details, practical exercises, and Jeremy Mudich’s full story, listen to the complete episode and look out for his upcoming book, You Were the Cause, You Were the Cure.

Transcript

[A]

I see all this great stuff you're doing. I'm like, oh, it's health, longevity. That's what I'm used to using these machines for. And then you say, no, Rudy, it's not. It's totally different.

[B]

I saw a lot of gaps in the teachings. Right. I found a way to create my own way of doing things that I was able to connect people to their breath in a different manner. Right. To not see it as like some woo woo thing. Solely breathing and focusing on your breath and being mindful within the breath is how we can learn to activate parts of ourselves and also rewrite the story of the inside. Jeremy Mudich is a wellness innovator, cold water immersion guide, and the founder of reconnect mind, body and resurrect breathwork. With 16 years in the health industry, Jeremy's journey reflects a lifelong mission to help others thrive in mind, body and spirit. If I believe that this was my limit before my cap and I break through that, now I'm at this next level, there's going to be already another point without me even realizing it's a subconscious limiting belief.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Breathwork can help you shift that state. State like within 30 seconds. I breathe all the time. What's the point of doing that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[B]

And it's like, well, why is breath.

[A]

Work and all this stuff become so big in the last 10 years?

[B]

Honestly, I think a lot of it is because of.

[A]

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[B]

Living your legacy podcast for those who.

[A]

Live to leave a legacy that's extraordinary. The impossible. Oh, that is sensational. Jordan Open Chicago with the lead. You said Paul is the fastest man on the planet. You can live your dream. Hello and welcome back to another episode of Legacy makers. Today we're going to talk about yourself, how to be the best version of yourself and. And maybe unlock yourself in a different way to what you might expect. We've got a fascinating episode with Jeremy. We're going to talk about some advanced machines that he uses and his advanced system that he has people flying all around America to come visit him. And he even travels around the world and hosts events and is part of events. Really fascinating and it's not what you'd expect. I thought it was biohacking when I saw it. Red light therapy, cold plunges, saunas. But no, it's very, very different. So let's dive in. Welcome, Rudy.

[B]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

So I say I see all this great stuff you're doing, I'm like, oh, it's health, longevity. That's what I'm used to using these machines for. And then you say, no, Rudy, it's not. It's totally different. So tell us, what do you help people do?

[B]

So we help people connect back to themselves. Right. So think about getting into cold water, typically as viewed as a biohacking thing. Right. And it is. It's great. It's phenomenal for information. It's actually the first reason I got into it was for that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, let's. Let's heal my body a bit. And. And I believe that it was possible to heal my body. Right. But what we do is we're teaching people how to feel their emotions or whatever that vibrational state is that comes through. And I have this quote that I have on the side of my ice bath that says, the water won't give you what you want, it will give you what you need. And so what I mean by that is the more that you surrender into the present moment, you'll be able to unlock whatever doors have been shut. So if you're experiencing some heavy emotion, but you're really good at blocking it and shoving it down, the water is going to bring it out and we'll. And I've trained my staff to where we're able to see it and we can see what's going on. And in that moment, we're going to encourage the individual to tap in and feel, not to numb out. Right. Because think about how often we do that, where we go through an emotional experience and this is how we were conditioned to handle it. So. And you just shut it down, right. Boom. And it gets stored in the body festers into something else, which in turn can become disease.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, very different. Right. Like people getting a nice to reduce muscle soreness or increase adrenaline in the morning and alertness. But. But you're going much deeper than that. Right, Right. And I almost. When you're telling me that, I imagine like the movies where someone's drowning and their life's flashing before their eyes. You're doing the same in a cold plunge, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're bringing the emotion out. So, I mean, it's fascinating. So you built this facility, you're traveling. You know, you head off to these islands and help host these events to help spur inspiration and get people to reconnect. H. How are you doing that with, you know, this. This machinery and the breath work techniques?

[B]

Honestly, it's. It's through my Own my own practice as well. Like my own self discovery of what I have seen work, you know, and, and going through a lot of different certifications and learning from some really intelligent people. It's more like I saw a lot of gaps in the teachings, right? I found a way to create my own way of doing things that I was able to connect people to their breath in a different manner. Right? To not see it as like some woo thing, but it's like, no, man, this is, this is just life. Like breathing is life, right? It's a huge part of it. Without it we can't live, right? You can go without water and food, all these things, but you can't go without your breath for very long.

[A]

Well, well. And there's been a big focus on just breath like breath work in itself in the last 10 years. You know, Wim Hof came along and all these breath work things and then, you know, people start doing this, you know, even little things, five, ten deep breaths, right? Puts more oxygen in the brain and all those things. And then now you've got, you know, the mouth tape. Because people are like, oh, a lot of people are breathing through the mouth. You should be. So let's just touch on that big picture first before we go deep. Why is breath work and all this stuff become so big in the last 10 years?

[B]

Honestly, I think a lot of it is because of Wim Hof. Like him and what he's been trying to do is trying to help people connect on a deeper level with themselves. Like have mindfulness and have practices of mindfulness. Because of course yoga and things like that been around for a long time, right? But it's always been categorized as like this thing, you know. And so when people heard breath work or breathing, they would put it in yoga, but it's not, it's entirely different. You know, you connect to your breath while doing yoga. Just like exercise though, right? So solely breathing and focusing on your breath and being mindful within the breath is how we can learn to activate parts of ourselves and also rewrite the story of the inside. Like we can go back internally within our body and change the vibration without reliving the experience that caused it. Which is pretty remarkable if you think about it. We don't have to relive this trauma, this, this experience that's kept us bound. Instead we can go into there, keep this frequency of the breath, which is also going to be rhythmic, right? So there's so many different types of breathing, but going into there, I think people have now realized how therapeutic this is. And that every human can use it. Like it's not something to where it's just for this type of person. Right. It's literally for everyone.

[A]

Well, and let's explain that because I think some people are probably listening or watching and going, wait, I thought you went to a counselor for that sort of stuff. Right. And then you got the counselor on this side of the spectrum and you're over here. Yeah. How bridge the gap for them if they don't fully understand how this can help with trauma and past stuff.

[B]

I love that you brought that up. So I think personally, and I have, I have a, A therapist who owns a counseling company who is certified through me as well, and he very much would vouch for this, that when it comes to therapy in general, people are looking for something that is more of an embodiment. Right. Something that can be more physical engagement versus just talk therapy. And so for us as humans, connecting to our breath in this way, it's something that therapists are probably going to start teaching very soon here in the next 10 years. I think it's going to be almost a requirement for it because it gets you into your body and you'll start speaking the truth. So for everyone to connect to this on a regular basis level, like, why is this a thing? It's because it's a part of life. It helps you connect to your emotions, to who you are. Right. So everything you go through in your life, every emotion, when you get excited to get nervous, you go here. Your breath will alter and change within that. So breath work is conscious breathing to shift your state. So this is for every person out there that breathes and is alive. Learning to use the breath as a tool, one of the greatest assets to really immerse yourself in whatever that emotion is or to help you go through it and not around it. Right. So you're not reconditioning any bad states that have been there before.

[A]

Well, and it is funny how. Yeah, I don't think most people understand, but you, you can change your emotion and stuff so much from basic techniques like breathing. And I think it's one of the first ever personal development books. I think it was in the Power of positivity, you know, 80 years ago that book was written or something. And he teaches, when you get angry, lie down, because it's hard to be angry lying down. Right, That's a good point. And it's a good one, you know, but. But I think most people don't understand that because they can stay angry, you know, over one Thing. But if you learn simple things like, hey, go lie down. Another technique they teach is go whisper. Like it's hard to be angry whispering.

[B]

You know, I've never heard that. It's a good point though.

[A]

Yeah, but, and this is one of the like OG personal development sort of things. And you know, now we're talking about breath work as another way to can not only go back and look at, you know, past traumas and all these things, but even to self regulate on a daily basis.

[B]

Right, right, exactly. You know, and that's, that's where like if you can tailor to just your average Joe on the street, that's like, how would this benefit me? Because you get those questions a lot. Especially if you come into my facility and, and we offer breath work. Like I breathe all the time. What's the point of doing that?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, right.

[B]

And it's like, well, it's because it helps you regulate your nervous system. Right? It's a tool to help you regulate.

[A]

And it's probably more simple than people like you say that maybe don't get full into yoga or meditating and they're don't, they don't get into the woo stuff. Right. Is maybe a more user friendly thing. So let's reverse a bit. How did you get into all this?

[B]

Well, it all started with me trying to figure out what was going on in my own head. You know, like the constant overthinking and.

[A]

Anxiety and did you try all the counseling and other stuff?

[B]

So I actually, I tried. So I was a professional bodybuilder, so that was my best way to, to go into expressing myself. Right. To really, to get it out, you know. But I was a terrible breather. I was a heavy mouth breather.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I always had bad teeth and bad, bad this and bad that. You know, it's because little did I know was I just a walking ball of anxiety all the time because my breath was terrible. So if you're breathing through your mouth all the time, right. You're in your sympathetic, which means you're constantly stressed, which is putting stress on your body. Right. So for me it came down to trying to find a way to calm my mind. And like prayer. I would go into prayer and it's like, yeah, having a conversation with the Lord. But then all these thoughts would come in. I'm like, okay, I'll try meditation to do this, but all these other thoughts coming in doesn't make any sense. And then I found breath work.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I was like just sitting here and doing some breathing exercise. Like, okay, you know, and once I did it, then it clicked and I thought, I've never felt so calm in my entire life. And I was like, hold on, I need to dig a little deeper because I'm definitely one to question every part of the system, you know. And like, why did this work when actually happened? Where's the science on this and what have other people said? And so that was kind of it, man. It was actually to, to help heal myself and to get my mind more centered and peaceful. Because the only time I ever really felt like my mind was unbreakable is when I was bodybuilding. Like actually in a training session.

[A]

A lot of people get in. Yeah, a lot. I know a lot of bodybuilders and they say this, it's like they're pretty miserable a lot of the time, except for when they're in the gym, you know. And then I know a lot of hardcore guys and girls like that. So, so, so that's how you got into it. What's. Obviously now you're, you know, you have people flying in from all around America and you even travel out of America now to run these sessions. You obviously do one with, with Kira and all the other authors on the island. What about the, you know, for that part it's more not maybe healing trauma, but opening yourself up for big picture thinking and inspiration. So how can it help on that side? If entrepreneurs are listening and they're like, well, I've handled my trauma maybe, but I want to go bigger and think bigger and think more free, how can it help for that side?

[B]

It can help because you are human, which means that you were going to have self limiting beliefs. No matter what, doesn't matter how far you get, we always have these limitations that will be tacked on top of the next one. As soon as you get the next level, there's going to be another level. Right. And this is where I think breath work. I look at it like this. A belief never goes away. You just take power away from it and give it to it's opposite. Got it. Right. So if I am, if I believe that this was my, my limit before my cap and I break through that, now I'm at this next level, there's going to be already another point without me even realizing it's a subconscious limiting belief.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Breath work can help you shift that state like within 30 seconds, which is crazy to think, but really all it takes is you connecting to your breath, letting an emotion pass. What do they say, like 90 seconds for each emotion. If you really are diligent about letting yourself feel the emotion and just witness it as it comes through. It's that witnessing phase that gives us an opportunity to create change inside of ourselves. So this is where it doesn't matter what level you're at. And I've worked with a lot of really, really successful CEOs, billionaires, and you do breath work of them, and they will immediately say the same thing. Whoa. Like, I didn't realize I had this. This ceiling because I broke through so many other ceilings before that. I'm up here. How could I. How could I have something else? But we're human. We're human, so we'll always have something there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I.

[A]

And I, in a different way, I explain that when I'm doing a lot of coaching around business and mindset, I'm like, even the most successful people. Like, you know, Elon Musk, his ceiling right now is trying to figure out how to live on Mars, you know, like, and then one day he'll get there, and then.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So there's always something.

[B]

Always something. Right.

[A]

Something next. And. And I do also agree and believe and teach. The quicker you can unlock it, the quicker you'll get there. Because it's not. A lot of people think it's the actionable steps stopping them, but most of the time, it's the belief patterns before the actionable steps, or most of the time, even when they have the actionable steps, they don't have the belief system. It will never work.

[B]

Couldn't agree more.

[A]

Yeah. So let's talk about a few of these. I know there's a lot to cover, but there's more in your episode, obviously. But you're, you know, you have a book, right. You have a motto you live by as well, that runs the company, you know, that runs your belief systems within the business. Can you talk a little about those things?

[B]

Yes, it is. You were the cause. You were the cure.

[A]

And what does that mean for everyone listening?

[B]

It means basically taking ownership of your life. It's realizing that what happened to you wasn't your fault. But what you do next is upon you.

[A]

And why. Why do you think most people. I guess I'll make a statement here first. I think most people struggle to do that. From my experience, hiring hundreds of people, meeting hundreds of people, and I think all entrepreneurs that are successful actually get good at that. It's like a prerequisite. Why do most people struggle with that?

[B]

I think it's all about how we were taught. I think it's the people who influenced Your life, you got to look at that. Your parents or whoever was a parent figure for you, that they're working with the best that they had. And so whatever skills that they have developed, they basically pass them on to you. And so if they didn't have any type of experience or skill set to help you recognize your own junk, you know, and realize, hey, it's up to you what you do next. Right. Like, hey, your. Your emotions are yours to have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're yours to work through.

[A]

Right. Yeah.

[B]

This would, this would mean that most parents just have never done that themselves, but there obviously are some out there, you know, So I would say from my own personal journey that my. My parents did the best they could. Right. But they didn't have those skills. I had to go out and learn those skills. And I got some awesome mentors and, and ones that would just help me realistically look in the mirror, you know, face myself. And that's where I look at it and say, you know, I think most people struggle with this because they just weren't taught it.

[A]

Well, I do think we. We live now in a world of more personal development and consciousness. Right. And I think the Internet, as much as people say it can be bad, it's played a massive part in access to information and these sort of things. Right. Like watching a YouTube video about it, listening to a book, you know, and 50 years ago, you had to go to a library and try and find a personal development book, even just 25 years ago. Yeah. I don't know if there's even a cate. A tiny category in a corner probably for personal development. Right. And I also, you know, we've changed so much as a society 50, 60, 70 years ago that you were fighting world wars in poverty, trying to survive. Now we talk spend. You know, we're very fortunate. We spend most of our lives saying, how can we be better and do breath work and cold plunges and build a business. So I think we are in a realm now of being the best version of ourselves, where our parents and grandparents, who we learned from, were in a realm of survival almost and, and stuff. So, yeah, I mean, you know, now our generation is about, you know, even if you look at the teenagers now, there's so much more opportunity to work on yourself than ever before.

[B]

I completely agree. More resources in general, just so people have more access, you know, and. But at the same time, I feel like it doesn't really make it easier, though. No.

[A]

Because it's some ways harder because you can, you can get all the tools but it's like the gym, diet and exercise. You gotta go do it.

[B]

You're gonna do it.

[A]

You gotta do it every day. Right. And what about the book side of things?

[B]

So the book side of things. My book is almost done.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And it is called you were the cause, you were the cure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's. It's tailored around telling my life story, but also giving some skills that can help people. Just like we're talking about things that are applicable for them to where they can start using it to help their life so they can help other people.

[A]

Yeah. So these are practices or meditations or what are they inside that can help?

[B]

It's just to generalize it, we'll say how to show up for someone, how to show up for yourself.

[A]

Yep. Right.

[B]

Using breathing techniques to help you process your anxiety. Right. To shift it into excitement.

[A]

So still breathing technique based. Okay, great.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Because a lot of it, you know, I would say the premise of my. My entire story is that your breath is trapped in your trauma. And there's a whole chapter. I talk about that and. And it, it's. It's all it talks about how.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So much of my limitations were because I never went back, I never healed it. Right. It was like this open wound left for infiltration. And once I went back in, I. And I was able to recognize that I found forgiveness for those people. Man, my breath was just.

[A]

Maybe that should be a second book explaining all that. It's a great title, you know, I love it. I love it because it, it really leads into everything you're doing. Right. But. But there's not, you know, obviously Wim Hof of the Brim, but there's not that much information out there for mainstream, I don't think on the power of the breath. And that's why I was asking you because it has got really popular in the last 10 years, but it's still not mainstream. Right. It's like popular in like personal development, biohacking now, but not like main mainstream. So that's great. So last question. What are they going to learn from your episode?

[B]

What they're going to learn. I would, I would say that it'll be a story of hope.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know, like to give people hope. And I think that's a big part of what I do, you know, is to help people do what is right. You know what I mean? And that there is hope that you can do what is right. Because oftentimes people feel like there is no other option.

[A]

Good.

[B]

You know, And I think my life story in general is. Is a walking testament to that.

[A]

Okay. Love it. Well, there you go, guys. That's a wrap for today. Go check out the full episode, Check out the book, obviously, everything he has online. And if you want to fly in and do a full session, I'm sure it'll be a life changing experience. That's a wrap. Keep working hard, make an impact, and I'll see you guys soon. Take.