
The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers talk about the new digital short, Sushi Glory Hole, that debuted on Oct. 5th on SNL! As the first Lonely Island song on “SNL” since 2018, they discussed how they came up with the idea for Sushi Glory Hole, what it was like returning to SNL, and so much more!
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Akiva Schaffer
It's the lowly island sunflower tortoise.
Andy Samberg
Hey, everybody. This is really exciting. I'm talking to Andrew and Akiva just a few days after they dropped a new digital short.
Akiva Schaffer
Hey, yo. I already forgot everything.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, man.
Andy Samberg
Oh, my God. That's how fast you're living these days.
Akiva Schaffer
That's how it turned out. Yeah. Oh, it feels different. It feels different. It's not a nostalgia pod anymore, you know.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. No. And now it's fresh. It's like the daily.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
This is now officially turned into the daily for digital shorts.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
First of all, I had heard Sushi glory hole maybe 10 months ago.
Akiva Schaffer
Yep.
Andy Samberg
Driving around in Andy's car, and it's the hardest I've ever laughed, maybe in my life.
Jorma Taccone
It worked on you. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Also the first time I'd ever been in a car that Andy was driving, which made it incredibly novel. Excellent driver, Rain man reference, and been looking forward to it for a long time, and I was just delighted. Keev, did you direct it as well?
Akiva Schaffer
Mike Diva did a lot of heavy lifting, and I would say we. We did it together.
Andy Samberg
And you had worked with Mike before?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. So Mike Diva is a good friend of ours who we met back in LA and he helped us when we were about to go on tour. He's just a really funny video director, and so we had him do all the background. So anybody who saw us on tour, he did what was up on those LED screens.
Andy Samberg
Did he do We Fell Off a Horse?
Akiva Schaffer
He did. He did.
Andy Samberg
I mean, another time that I laughed, maybe an unhealthy amount.
Akiva Schaffer
A very quick tangent for those who didn't see the tour. The quickest way I'll tell it is, basically, we did a photo shoot for an album. It had a horse. We all three got on it bareback. It bucked a teeniest bit, maybe 5 inches, but enough that none of us had anything to hold onto, and we all fell off the horse. And it was on video. And we gave the video to Mike Diva and he made a beat with his brother and it was a little interlude, so called We Fell Off a Horse that played. And then, you know, it had, like a big metallic 3D horse shooting lasers by the end.
Andy Samberg
Also, it is caught on camera, but exactly how you want that moment caught. It wasn't being shot like it was a movie.
Akiva Schaffer
No.
Andy Samberg
Someone was just sort of getting BTS stuff of a photo shoot. Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
It was on an iPhone and so.
Andy Samberg
It was really great. Yeah. You guys fall off the horse and it's like, immediately, it's like, yeah, and screaming.
Akiva Schaffer
It's like Cloverfield style footage, film footage.
Jorma Taccone
It was our Cloverfield.
Andy Samberg
It was your Cloverfield.
Akiva Schaffer
And then Mike, when me and Andy started doing Bash Brothers, we were like, this is a lot of heavy lifting. Who could we bring on? And we brought on Mike. So he co directed all of Bash Brothers with me as well and co edited with me and everything. And then we recommended him to snl and he's been working there for like three years now. Two years. How many seasons has he done? Two or three.
Jorma Taccone
This is his third, I think.
Akiva Schaffer
There you go.
Andy Samberg
Also, by the way, yhorm, I know you weren't in it, but are you just going to sit here this whole podcast and not say anything?
Akiva Schaffer
Oh, yeah.
Jorma Taccone
Yorm's not here.
Andy Samberg
I mean, Jesus, we should probably point.
Jorma Taccone
Out Jorm's not here yet.
Andy Samberg
Jorm is not here.
Akiva Schaffer
Let's fair that.
Andy Samberg
I do like that people are listening, being like, oh, fuck, Jorm must be mad he wasn't in Sushi.
Akiva Schaffer
It is currently 4:35pm, which means it's like 2:30 in the morning, I think, in Finland.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, it's not a good time to get a Finland Yorm for this podcast, he senses.
Akiva Schaffer
Regards.
Andy Samberg
Technically, though, I want to make something clear. This is not about Sushi Glory Hole. We've talked about it, but everything has to be in order on the Lonely island of Seth Meyers podcast, correct?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. So in about 85 episodes.
Andy Samberg
In about 85 episodes. Cause now, we could talk about it now and it would be fresh and probably, like, insightful. But it's better to wait, I think, a year and a half where it's just a lot of, um.
Jorma Taccone
Maybe, I mean, we could talk about it a little more, don't you think?
Andy Samberg
Okay, good. So I have a question about your look. I feel like I. I feel like I maybe had a different take on what your look was than what everybody then said. What your look was. What was the look you asked for?
Jorma Taccone
Wall street was the first reference. The original.
Andy Samberg
You know, what you guys look like to me is the dudes in a Guy Ritchie movie. Because, you know, a lot of Guy Ritchie movies are like 30 minute montages of people explaining, like, how they're making drugs underground.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, yeah.
Andy Samberg
And I feel like the Sushi Glory Hole guys, I think there's a lot of like, basically the Gentleman is Matthew McConaughey saying the first 30 minutes is like, hear me out.
Akiva Schaffer
That's right. Yeah, we do look like we're like some Savile Row, but kind of experimental.
Andy Samberg
It's a Little more colorful than I think of when I think of Wall Street.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Well, we didn't just stop there. We basically pulled, you know, Michael Douglas pictures from Wall Street. And then we also started pulling, like, cool fashion forward stuff that, like, ASAP Rocky does. But nobody would have that stuff. Cause that's, like, really, you know, right off the Runway stuff. And we said, we just want to seem off. We're Wall street guys, but there's something wrong with us. And then they put it all together, and we were both kind of like, oh, these are just actually kind of cool. Yeah, in an off way.
Andy Samberg
It was a little bit back to the thing you said about, I ran so far where Kanye thought you were. Actually looked good.
Jorma Taccone
When Keev got dressed in his for time, I looked at him. This is going to be lost on almost everyone, but I was like, who do you look like? And then I realized it was the old Golden State warriors color commentary guy, Jim Barnett.
Andy Samberg
Oh, yeah.
Jorma Taccone
I love Jim Barnett, by the way. Great color commentary.
Akiva Schaffer
Do you want to say who else I look like in it?
Jorma Taccone
R. Crumb.
Andy Samberg
No, there was a little. It was R. Crumb. If he actually, like, invested.
Jorma Taccone
Well, he looked like R. Crumb before he put the wig on.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
I look like Eddie Murphy in white. Like me.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, that was my favorite moment of the whole week.
Akiva Schaffer
When he's in full white face. That's what he look.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. There was a moment where the lighting was kind of low, and I walked up and I was like, keev, you look exactly like Eddie Murphy in white. Like me right now. And it was. We laughed a lot.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Do you guys want to talk about how there's a whole new streamlined process to shooting shorts now? Yeah, it was crazy because there's basically just, like, a location now. Correct. That they use every week.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. It's a huge building.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. They have soundstages now. That was born of COVID when they needed somewhere to shoot, when no one could be on the streets. So they rented here huge sound stages, and now they do everything there. The difference between when we did them and now is. Let me just say, people there might have got bored of hearing us go, whoa, this is so different. Yeah, but it is. It is enormous. It is like the difference between five people and 400 people. Like, it is exponential.
Andy Samberg
Were you jealous of it?
Akiva Schaffer
In part, because it made certain things that were very difficult before very effortless. Like, they just have assigned wardrobe people and assigned makeup people and assigned FX people for afterwards, for when you're doing vfx. So there's A lot of things where there's just a machinery to get stuff done. And the SNL crew is so good. And I know I always hear people say that, and maybe I hadn't experienced the opposite, but having experienced the opposite, or just having been in the real world, maybe for 10 years, experiencing other crews, when I went back, I was like, oh, my God, they are amazing. This woman, Jill, who did the wardrobe, we gave two references quickly through other people, and we showed up and she had eight suits pulled for us, had her favorites laid out on the floor. They're basically exactly what we wore in the video. Yep. No notes. We just tried them on. Did it. She understood. She put all the things. We'd be like, oh, should we have a tie clip? There'd be eight tie clips within a second. And that is not what it's like in the rest of show business. And same with Jodie. That's just less surprising, because Jodie, we've always known, is amazing.
Andy Samberg
But shout out to Jill, Jody's hair extraordinaire.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, Jody's. And killed it with those wigs right away. But there's no learning curve. They all know what you're getting at and can jump to it. Whereas anywhere else in the world, there's so many rounds of notes and things move in slow motion.
Andy Samberg
I also think everybody gets better by working with the department heads. But also the department heads are so good because they are constantly working with very green writers and cast members. And so because Lorne empowers even the newest writer to be in charge of their sketches, the department heads are like, oh, we can't learn how to talk like this person. We have to teach this person how to talk like us. And so very quickly, when you're at snl, I think you learn how you can just give a little bit of information and the department heads will go off and make the best choices.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, it's really amazing.
Jorma Taccone
It was nice to be back.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Who came up with the idea of Sushi Glory hole to begin with?
Jorma Taccone
That would be a Kiva.
Akiva Schaffer
I don't know why he just came.
Jorma Taccone
In and just said it.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, I just said it.
Jorma Taccone
And then I was like, okay. And then he kept saying it.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
I was like, all right, let's try it then.
Akiva Schaffer
Did I say hear me out?
Jorma Taccone
You didn't say hear me out.
Akiva Schaffer
No.
Jorma Taccone
And we tried a whole version of it.
Akiva Schaffer
Yes.
Jorma Taccone
That didn't have any of the hear me out stuff on a different beat. And it just felt kind of like.
Akiva Schaffer
Yep.
Jorma Taccone
Feels like what ChatGPT would do. If we punched in Lonely Island Sushi Glory Hole, and we were like, yeah, it's fine. And then we were like, we do, like, some of these lines and some of these ideas. And then so we started it on a different beat that we ended up using. And then once we started writing, the hear me outs just happened organically. Because of course, those guys would say that before you would even react. Because they've pitched this a hundred times and it's gone bad every time.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, they know.
Andy Samberg
But what I like is for guys who it's gone bad every time, they still walk in with a real douchey energy.
Akiva Schaffer
They're real cocky.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, yeah. They know they're about to kill it.
Andy Samberg
I want to see almost the pre scene where the two of you, like this type would do not show fear. We could do this too. It is a good idea. Good idea. I love good idea.
Akiva Schaffer
That's definitely Andy writing that for me. I have to think you got nothing to fear. Sushi glory Hole. It's a good idea and it's not weird. So hear us out while we tell you what the concept's all about. It's sushi being fed through a hole in the wall. Where you going?
Andy Samberg
I love hard Akiva. I love when Akiva's like, just like that. Ice water in his veins.
Akiva Schaffer
Rap Persona, Mean mugging.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
Brain dead is how I would call it. But thank you for.
Andy Samberg
What do you call it?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, Brain dead.
Andy Samberg
Okay.
Akiva Schaffer
Like, half the time I'm in there.
Jorma Taccone
Like, there's definitely a little Jose and Mark dynamic on this one.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, some of the. Mark McGuire has infected other things now.
Jorma Taccone
Who is a very intelligent man. Irl.
Akiva Schaffer
Yes, my characterization, exactly.
Andy Samberg
I did love. Cause again, you explain it what it is. And then as soon as you hear Sushi Glittery hole. Certainly for me, you like Mind's Eye. It. And yet so funny. The first time somebody puts their mouth open, sushi comes out. Cause it looks just enough like it might be a penis.
Akiva Schaffer
We purposely left a few extra frames of anticipation on the first one of James where it's just. He's sitting there waiting, and you're like, wait a second. What's coming through that hole?
Jorma Taccone
You're like, oh, no.
Andy Samberg
And then just like a little bit of salmon. A little bit of salmon. Right away you're like, is it.
Jorma Taccone
By the way, it looked nice once it came out.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, it did. Again, it's. The quality is worth the risk. Right? I mean, that's kind of, I think, harder to hear me out.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. That is it.
Andy Samberg
The quality of the fish is worth the risk, as you say.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
There's not a lot of our songs where we come out the gate and the first three words are the entire premise. You'll never really learn more than in the first three words.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
And then the rest is. Is like backtracking and explaining.
Andy Samberg
I think the dumbest. I mean, again, my favorite thing is like maybe the worst selling points of the business plan. Sushi glory hole are the last two. Don't leave at a sex club when.
Jorma Taccone
You need stamina for sex but forgot to eat.
Akiva Schaffer
Back soon. Sushi glory hole At a sushi restaurant where you don't like the food in the back of the bathroom. Sushi glory hole. We're offering a five star omakaze. Like really good stuff. And you might be at kind of a cheap place.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
And Devin and Chloe got those things, like they expressed them perfectly because we've all been there.
Andy Samberg
You have all been there. I will say I really like the way Chloe sort of leaned her head against the side of the bathroom stall in pleasure.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
She was like, that's some good sush.
Andy Samberg
That's a really good sush.
Akiva Schaffer
Honestly, there's some urgent poop energy, some diarrhea energy. If I'm gonna say the gross word from all of them, like de Smukes.
Andy Samberg
Had some real, like, I'm gonna go shit my pants. But it was just.
Akiva Schaffer
I have to get in there. He's slamming the door open. He's flopping down on the thing. He needs the relief of good sushi in his mouth.
Jorma Taccone
Well, yeah. Cause he forgot to eat.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
I don't wanna poke holes in Sushi glory hole. But it did seem like it's airtight.
Akiva Schaffer
Good luck.
Andy Samberg
You can't be eating omakase in the middle of the street. I feel like Dismukes ate it a little sloppier than like a normal person would be able to in the middle of the street. Yeah. No, but I mean, like if you got say, deli sushi or whatever, you'd be able to pick it up and put in your mouth. Right. Without it just like crumbling everywhere.
Jorma Taccone
I mean, I think it depends on the piece.
Andy Samberg
You know what I'm doing right now. I'm realizing what I'm doing. I'm hearing you out.
Akiva Schaffer
There you go. Thank you.
Andy Samberg
You immediately spoke in a way that made me hear you out.
Akiva Schaffer
You haven't left.
Andy Samberg
How were the NBC censors? Was it a run in it back again with beloved Betsy Torres?
Akiva Schaffer
I did get her on the horn once.
Andy Samberg
Okay.
Akiva Schaffer
When there Was a note that we weren't sure about. And I was like, let me just talk to her. And so I took it that one extra step. And she was delightful, honestly. And the reason she, quote, unquote, won the thing that I was asking about, where I was like, oh, okay. Is because it airs in primetime on the west coast now.
Andy Samberg
Gotcha.
Akiva Schaffer
And that is a big difference.
Andy Samberg
What can you tell me what it was that she won on?
Akiva Schaffer
Basically, we had an alternate for the sake. So there's a moment where he looks down at his phone and he chooses, oh, I'll have a sake. And then you see him drinking from a little cup of sake. We had an alternate where it was, like, essentially shooting through with, like, a water gun.
Andy Samberg
Gotcha.
Akiva Schaffer
So it appeared kind of reminiscent of someone was pissing through the hole into his mouth.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause it was.
Akiva Schaffer
And the phone is very clear. And we made it very big so you would not miss it. But when she was like, this is gonna be on at, you know, 9:00pm in Los Angeles, I was like, okay.
Jorma Taccone
We were on the fence about it anyway because we did really like how adorable the little sake cup sip was.
Akiva Schaffer
It's true.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. I guess I was dumb of me when I heard the song. I guess I kind of thought that the sushi would come through the glory hole and then you would take it in your own hand.
Jorma Taccone
See, we talked about that.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, we talked about it. About it being just. You're being fed.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. Well, because then it was always my.
Jorma Taccone
Understanding that it would be shoved straight in.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. And as my understanding and again of glory holes, I'm pretty sure that's. Sometimes it's almost hands free. I feel like there's an expectation that most of your glory hole stuff will be hands free.
Jorma Taccone
It would be nice, though, if anything that came through Glory Hole was presented on a flat hand, you know?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. It's true. Seth, have you ever seen a glory hole in real life?
Andy Samberg
I haven't.
Akiva Schaffer
Neither have we. Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. I also have not always hoped to, but never, never happened upon one.
Andy Samberg
Just going to the wrong places.
Jorma Taccone
It's possible that I've seen them but didn't know about it yet. You know what I mean?
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
And didn't put it together and was like, hey, weird.
Akiva Schaffer
When you were just as tall as one, A little peephole, you were like, ha, ha.
Andy Samberg
Oh, yeah.
Jorma Taccone
Before my growth spurt last year.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. Well, bravo. Do you guys have anything else? And again, we're gonna obviously revisit this in 85 episodes, but do you anything else? To add about, oh, what did Lauren think of Sushi Glory Hole?
Akiva Schaffer
He said, good job and shook my hand at the afterparty.
Jorma Taccone
He liked it.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
You know, it played later in the show than maybe we would have hoped for, but we understood that it was a little dirty.
Akiva Schaffer
A little dirty?
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
When we made the song, we were like, will this ever get a video? Videos are expensive. We don't have an outlet for it. So it was just kind of there being like, man, it'd be so cool to do one and shout out to Lorne. Because Andy brought it up to him since he's there doing Doug. Yeah, yeah. And he said, okay, give it a go.
Andy Samberg
But you did go over to the table and say, like, we got you, man. You paid for it. Yeah, of course we got you to pay for it, dude.
Akiva Schaffer
You know where we were when we got the news, Seth, that it was going to be on that, like, oh, you're on. And we had to go make the.
Andy Samberg
Okay.
Akiva Schaffer
The path to 8h and go to where we always stood right under the main stage. We were in a dressing room in your show.
Andy Samberg
Oh, yeah. You were the overflow dressing room.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. And you know what was interesting about it?
Andy Samberg
What's that?
Akiva Schaffer
No hand soap. Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
No hand soap.
Andy Samberg
No hand soap.
Akiva Schaffer
No.
Jorma Taccone
And no paper towels.
Akiva Schaffer
And went out of the room, went to that sink. That's kind of communal. In the bullpen area of the dressing rooms. No hand soap. Went into, like, three other. Unoccupied.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
Couldn't get it.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
No way to wash hands.
Jorma Taccone
So what's up with that?
Akiva Schaffer
Is that something you do on purpose? Is that the same at your show or is that just for SNL on the weekends?
Andy Samberg
You know, it's one of the many budget cuts that is affecting late night television, but thanks.
Akiva Schaffer
First it was the ban. Did it go first?
Andy Samberg
First it was the band.
Akiva Schaffer
Oh, they got rid of the band first. Then the hand soap. Oof.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. Well, the problem was, like, what can you cut from the budget? And we cut hand soap. And they came back and they're like, not even close.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, man.
Andy Samberg
Not even close.
Akiva Schaffer
Seth, I don't want this to make you feel weird if you don't know this, but do you know what they do to your main studio during an SNL night?
Andy Samberg
I would imagine they fill it with sort of maybe makeshift hair and makeup stations for extras.
Akiva Schaffer
That's right.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
And all the extras were sitting in your audience.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
Cause I went in there to take a prank photo for you of like, oh, shit, the studio's open. I'm gonna go goof around on the desk. And then There was immediately 200 people staring at me, and I was like, oh, never mind. I'm outta here.
Andy Samberg
Ah, that's such a burn. Because you love a prank photo.
Akiva Schaffer
That's my main thing.
Andy Samberg
It was taken from you.
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Andy Samberg
Oh, right.
Jorma Taccone
And I was like, I don't even know if I'm gonna be on or not.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. You didn't wanna give spoilers because you didn't even know if you'd get cut or what it would be. Yep. And in hindsight, we've seen things on Instagram that one thing you were in did get cut, which was a kind of Game of Thrones.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. House of the Dragon piece. Jost wrote.
Akiva Schaffer
Exactly.
Jorma Taccone
Got to do my Legolas next to Jelly Roll. Got to do my Legolas. And Seth got to say Mordor, the way they say it in all Rings of Power and all the movies. And it was very satisfying for me.
Andy Samberg
Give us that real quick.
Jorma Taccone
Mordor.
Andy Samberg
So good.
Akiva Schaffer
A lot of.
Jorma Taccone
And they're all so proud that they're doing it right. And it's like, really the way that you're supposed to do it from the books and stuff. And it made me really happy to get to partake.
Andy Samberg
Do you think that Jost only wrote it because he was so, like, excited to get your leg lost back out there?
Jorma Taccone
I think no.
Andy Samberg
Okay.
Jorma Taccone
But I was happy to get to do it again.
Andy Samberg
But now, Andy, this is a very kind of opposite of your experience on the show, which is you are basically. They've got you there for the purposes of being in the cold open.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. Political cold opens.
Andy Samberg
This was not your life at snl.
Jorma Taccone
No.
Andy Samberg
You were not a guy where, like, I'm definitely gonna be in the cold opens.
Jorma Taccone
Correct. And in fact, I got to say live from New York with Maya and Dana a couple days ago on the second show, and I was thinking about it, and I was like, that might only be, like, the fifth time I've ever done it.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. There's definitely some people that keep a count online who could tell you who's done it the most.
Akiva Schaffer
Okay.
Andy Samberg
I bet we could find out how many times you've Live from New York Day. Do you remember your first Live from New York King?
Jorma Taccone
No.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Seth, your point though, about that? We always were the ones that couldn't go to dinner and couldn't do anything because we were always making the shorts. Andy got to have one of those nice, normal SNL weeks where he just had two sketches blocking at normal times. And I heard about that. There was a pretty good dinner that was had that last week.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, so good.
Andy Samberg
We had a really good dinner.
Jorma Taccone
We had a good dinner.
Akiva Schaffer
I heard about it like four times. Andy's honestly kind of reeling from it. I think it hit on all cylinders for him in a way he hadn't experienced, which is New York City. Amazing ambiance and amazing food with perfect.
Andy Samberg
Buds and perfect old fashioned.
Jorma Taccone
Oh my God.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, I've heard of them.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, they're really good. And we had a 7 o'clock res. This is our new life. I would say we probably never. In the seven years we overlapped at snl, we probably never had dinner at seven.
Jorma Taccone
Definitely not.
Andy Samberg
Maybe a couple late lunches started at seven.
Jorma Taccone
It was heavenly and then divine.
Andy Samberg
And then we sat down, we ate a ton of food. I think I had three Old Fashions. I only think you had two. Is that right? Or did you two?
Jorma Taccone
I cap it at two.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
I mean I was a work week.
Andy Samberg
It was a work week. But then we rolled out maybe at 9:30 and Andy was like, should we go get a drink? And I really had to say no, my kids are deaf. Up at seven.
Jorma Taccone
And do you remember what I said?
Andy Samberg
What'd you say?
Jorma Taccone
Oh, thank God.
Andy Samberg
Well, then the next day, I mean again, I did have to wake up at like 6:30, get my kids to school, go to work. And then I think at 11am Andy texted Shoemaker and I and said, oh my God, been up so long. Just kidding. Just woke up, first time in a while, had a great morning, been out and about. Just kidding, just opening my eyes. So glad we didn't get drinks.
Jorma Taccone
Got queen bee though.
Andy Samberg
You did, you did queen bee it. But you know Keev, that was the problem. Like you came out, but it was old digital, short time. So you guys were breakneck.
Akiva Schaffer
Oh yeah, it felt weird. It was Tuesday. I was in the middle of I'm on deadline on Naked Gun on trying to get the edit in right now and all of a sudden had to drop everything because Andy was like, it's on. We're on a flight tomorrow morning. Let's go.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. And it's. You're in it.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
You're the other guy.
Akiva Schaffer
And I had a great time, but it was a whirlwind. And then we were back Sunday, so it felt crazy. The other nice thing, I'll say that me and Andy, when we were out on the stage and we're watching it play live and we're looking up at the monitors and looking up at the audience, and it was playing really, really well. We were both, like, left that thing being like, wow. I didn't know if I'd ever have that feeling again.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
So it's appropriate for this podcast of us being like, oh, my God. It genuinely felt special and it did feel different. Like, my relationship to all of it felt a little different. In a good way, I think. In a healthier way.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. It was a little bit like time travel also. Of like, oh, we're just back in the same spot, praying that it lands. And then when it starts to work, you're like, oh, thank fucking God.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Also a couple, like touchstones to the past, where you have Maya and Keenan. But I thought the current cast was all super funny in it.
Jorma Taccone
They were agreed.
Andy Samberg
Did you have any sense. I know I'm putting you in a possible situation. Did you have any sense that anyone was like, oh, wow, this is so cool. I get to do a short.
Akiva Schaffer
A lot of them would say it a lot. And honestly, it was really heartening and nice. I really liked it. I felt a lot of warmth from people in a way I wasn't expecting.
Andy Samberg
That's really great, Andy.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. I mean, there's always a thing of, like, being super flattered versus being like, oh, my God, how old are we? When.
Akiva Schaffer
Right. When we came back in 2016 and did the Finest Girl from Popstar, it felt like people were still in competition with us.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
And it was a little like, hey, what's up, guys? And now it's been long enough that everyone there is not.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
They're just like, oh, they were here before a while ago. Which is correct.
Akiva Schaffer
Exactly. So there was more. I felt a lot more. Just friendly warmth from all the new cast members and writers that I met.
Andy Samberg
That was like, my first year. I remember Ackroyd came back to do something and I was like, hey, this is my show now.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Yeah. It hadn't been long enough.
Andy Samberg
Get out of my shit, man. I misplayed it.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
It might have been an oversight.
Andy Samberg
I was waiting the fourth show. What was I doing apropos not well, except for the fact that I made up a story. Ackroyd was one of those guys. Every time he came back, he would come over to you and tell you something. He loved that you did. That was such a piece of minutia. Like, it wasn't like, hey, I love that hit sketch you did. He was like, oh, there was that scene. You did a voice. You did a voice from the Atlantic Midwest. You know, the sort of like, you know, the Atlantic coast accent. You never hear it. You nailed it. And it's just like crazy.
Jorma Taccone
That's the beautiful thing about it. Coming from people that have actually worked there, though. Like, that has happened organically for me. Going back when I talk to the cast that are there now and the writers even too, that I know stuff they've written, it's never what most people would say to them because we work there. So the things that excite us are much more like what you're describing.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, well, you actually. I feel like you're getting it both ways, Andy, because you're both working with the current cast and you get to do sketchups of Dana Carvey every week.
Yhorm
I know.
Jorma Taccone
By the way, that is the coolest.
Andy Samberg
Also. It's not heyday Dana. It is. Dana now has a all new super cracking impression that nobody figured out except him.
Jorma Taccone
That's right. And he got lose with the ice cream too, in episode two. Yeah, he got me and Maya. We were not expecting that.
Andy Samberg
He's very fun to watch.
Jorma Taccone
He's so good, man and such a nice person. It's been really fun. Honestly, hanging out with all them. Gaffigan, too, is great. Everybody's so awesome.
Andy Samberg
Had you ever met Bargetzi?
Jorma Taccone
No. We developed a show with him way back in the day, our company. But I don't think I even met him during that time. Cause we were so busy with other shit.
Andy Samberg
Speaking of shows you developed in the past, you have an animated show. Yes, Dygma.
Jorma Taccone
Yes.
Andy Samberg
I did a voice on it.
Jorma Taccone
That's right. Coming this season.
Andy Samberg
I'm very excited. But another person who did a voice was on my show today, Nathan Lane.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, amazing.
Andy Samberg
Nathan Lane had very lovely things to say about you, Andy.
Jorma Taccone
That's so wonderful. I have nothing but good things to say about Nathan Lane, the legend.
Andy Samberg
He also had very nice things to say about the French pole vaulter you played on our show.
Jorma Taccone
Is that right?
Andy Samberg
Yeah. Nathan Lane also always goes, did you see their new digital short? And he was like, sushi glory hole. Yes. It was just everything.
Akiva Schaffer
No way. That's the best.
Andy Samberg
It was Jen the Gray. Hey, since yhorm's here, and I know yhorm is the one who really hates plugs, but you know what? Since we're real timing the podcast now, it was announced today the release date of my HBO special.
Jorma Taccone
That's right. I saw the trailer. Looks very funny.
Akiva Schaffer
Saw the poster.
Andy Samberg
Poster? Yeah. October 26th on HBO.
Akiva Schaffer
Congratulations.
Andy Samberg
Thank you.
Akiva Schaffer
Chris Martin from Coldplay did come up and say, where's the third one? That's my best Chris Martin.
Jorma Taccone
But he did ask, where's the third one?
Andy Samberg
Yeah, that's what he calls Jorma, the third one.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Well, he's like, isn't there supposed to be three of you guys?
Andy Samberg
That's good.
Jorma Taccone
And he was barefoot in the halls. And Keev told him about J.J. casuals.
Andy Samberg
Did you really?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, you don't wear shoes on the stage. You know what? Our very first sketch was just about that we knew another singer who preferred to go barefoot on stage. I pitched him the whole sketch.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, he was delightful.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
I saw a supercut of different SNL hosts announcing. And now Coldplay. And it is such a trip. How long they have been doing snl. Yeah, like sort of from like an early Baldwin on.
Akiva Schaffer
Oh, wow.
Jorma Taccone
Longer than us.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, definitely, definitely did the show.
Jorma Taccone
Favorite Coldplay song, Seth.
Andy Samberg
I think Yellow.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah. First thought, best thought, right?
Andy Samberg
Oh, but you know what? Here's. Wait, I have a Coldplay story. Can I tell my Coldplay story?
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, sure.
Andy Samberg
And it's a genuine story. Remember Poehler had a baby like late Friday night before his show. I got a text from her at like one in the morning being like, you're on your own tomorrow, kid. Because I had to host Update by myself.
Jorma Taccone
Ah, yes.
Andy Samberg
And it was terrifying, the very idea of going out there and doing it by myself. And Coldplay was the musical guest that night. And you know, the first musical guest is right before Update. And the song was Viva La Vida. Remember the song?
Akiva Schaffer
Yes.
Andy Samberg
And Chris Martin was wearing like a very colorful jacket. Had a lot of like weird patches. It was the kind of jacket that like he pulled off and I would never be able to pull off.
Jorma Taccone
Maybe some epaulettes.
Akiva Schaffer
Yep.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, There was a lot of garnishes on the jacket. And I was so nervous and I was watching Chris Martin and he seemed to be having such a good time singing a song wearing his kick ass jacket. And I just said to myself, go have as much fun as he's having right now. Oh, just like pretend like you're Chris Martin. And you're wearing the cool jacket.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
And that's literally what I. That's like. I told Chris Martin that once, like.
Akiva Schaffer
How it gave you the focus.
Andy Samberg
I just, like, was looking at him being like, you're allowed to be that happy when you perform. And so I'm gonna go do that.
Akiva Schaffer
Did you feel that when you did it, or were you consciously aware I'm faking that, but then you faked it till you make.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. After every joke, I'm like, good. That is how Chris Martin would have done it in the jackets.
Akiva Schaffer
Good.
Andy Samberg
The jacket. Think of the jacket after each joke. Again, it's fun to be like, that sounds like a story about, like, a 16 year old giving an oral report in class. And I'm, like, doing the math. I'm like, 37. How old. How old was I when I had to be, like, public speaking? Just be the boy in the jacket.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, my God.
Andy Samberg
You can also wear the jacket.
Jorma Taccone
Definitely too old to be saying that.
Andy Samberg
Viva la vida. I do. Before I let you guys go here, are you enjoying Doug?
Jorma Taccone
I'm enjoying Doug a great deal. I mean, my first pitch when I got asked to do Doug was, can I first walk out to teach me how to Dougie? And everything after that was icing.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. So you really. You feel like you've captured the man?
Jorma Taccone
I mean, it's not a stretch for me.
Andy Samberg
No.
Jorma Taccone
Just kind of like an upbeat dude who really loves his wife.
Andy Samberg
It's true. Who really loves his uber talented wife who could, like, do things he couldn't even conceive of. Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
A lot of, like, I can't believe this.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. And I mean, I feel like the Maya. Kamala doesn't get enough. I think it's getting an incredible amount of credit, and I still don't think it's enough credit.
Akiva Schaffer
It's amazing.
Jorma Taccone
It's incredibly accurate while also being funny and has energy and moves and. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
The vocal range of moves she's recognized from Kamala is off the map.
Jorma Taccone
I mean, Maya's a killer. We know this.
Andy Samberg
She's a stone cold killer.
Akiva Schaffer
You two together is very winning, as Mr. Sheen would say.
Jorma Taccone
Thanks, Keith. Thanks for putting it exactly that way.
Andy Samberg
Good callback.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
I also don't think that's how Charlie Sheen was using it.
Akiva Schaffer
No, it's not. No. He was in the process of winning. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Akiva Schaffer
He was hitting, like, the jackpot. Like. Yeah. It wasn't, like, a winning personality.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. He was like, oh, I thought I was being winning.
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
Yeah.
Jorma Taccone
He was like, I fucking drank Shark's blood or whatever. Winning personality is what I have. And also the people that I associate with have winning personalities. You know what I mean?
Akiva Schaffer
Yeah. Like, just warm and confident and nice. Yeah.
Andy Samberg
So I established that I heard this song 10 months ago in a car, and it was, like, fully, like, everything about it was done. It was finished music. Ten months ago, I'm assuming. Not one isolated song.
Jorma Taccone
Oh, Seth, what an interesting query.
Andy Samberg
I'm querying.
Jorma Taccone
Well, truth be told, during the writers strike, we were sitting on our hands a little bit.
Andy Samberg
Yep.
Jorma Taccone
Doing our proper nothing. And we were like, what can we do? So we did kind of hop back up in the studio, and we did make some songs. Unclear how many, because we're not sure how many we deem releasable.
Andy Samberg
Right. Keith.
Akiva Schaffer
And there's still a bunch that are half songs.
Jorma Taccone
Yep.
Akiva Schaffer
That we're like, God, if we could get some time to go back in the studio, we might be able to crack the rest of that one.
Andy Samberg
Is there anything. And I'm putting you on the spot. Is there anything you fully bailed on? Like, is there anything you've like? We tried it, Bailey.
Jorma Taccone
Yes.
Akiva Schaffer
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Jorma Taccone
Death.
Andy Samberg
Do you want to throw any out?
Jorma Taccone
Well, no, because, like, what if we do, like, a deluxe edition? You know what I mean?
Akiva Schaffer
Or what if we really do solve it?
Jorma Taccone
What if we crack it like we did with Sushi Glory Hole? Shorthand for that Sushi Glory Hole.
Akiva Schaffer
We were very proud of ourselves because as Andy touched on earlier, we had a first chorus fully recorded. It's a full, listenable chunk. And it did feel, as you put it, like it was made by ChatGPT. And we were like, that's the old us. It doesn't sound new or like something else. Yeah, but it's hard to go deep into something and put it aside after wasting an entire day on it and then start totally fresh the next day on the same thing. The trick is figuring out what to do with them now, because we don't have an outlet like snl. And that, again, was why it was so great that this Doug came up and then this worked out where we were like, oh, my God. We figured out something to do with it.
Jorma Taccone
We were like, when is the time, though? And then we were all. The time is nigh.
Andy Samberg
The time is nigh.
Akiva Schaffer
That's exactly right.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah.
Andy Samberg
To go to Mordor.
Jorma Taccone
Mordor, Mordor. To the very depths of Mordor. Sorry for everyone listening. That's hard to listen to.
Andy Samberg
I like that you guys keep saying, because first came Doug and then I think that when you meet him, you can give him a real firm handshake, Andy, and be like, hey, without you, no Sushi glory hole. Thanks, man. You were the gateway in.
Jorma Taccone
I think that has to be 100% accurate.
Andy Samberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's very exciting. New music, and it was really wonderful. I was very excited to see you guys doing a digital short again.
Jorma Taccone
Thank you, southlington.
Akiva Schaffer
Thank you.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Andy Samberg
Yeah. And again, this is gonna be fun to talk about again when we do the sushi glory hole episode in two and a half years.
Jorma Taccone
Yeah, when it's further away in two and a half years, that's when we're gonna dish all the fucking dirt.
Andy Samberg
Well, that's when we're gonna get to hear what yhorm's take was.
Akiva Schaffer
Oh, no.
Jorma Taccone
He's gonna be like, it was wonderful. I was knee deep in Lola.
Andy Samberg
Lola. Neath the pine, neath the pines Lola. All right, so I guess next week we'll talk about our first show back from the writer strike of seven ought eight, which is Tina Fey. And until then, I love you guys.
Jorma Taccone
Love you, buddy.
Akiva Schaffer
Love you. Bye.
Podcast Summary: "Sushi Glory Hole" Episode of The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast
Release Date: October 14, 2024
In this enlightening episode of The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast, Seth Meyers engages in a vibrant conversation with The Lonely Island—comprising Andy Samberg, Akiva Schaffer, and Jorma Taccone. The trio delves into their iconic tenure on Saturday Night Live (SNL), focusing particularly on their groundbreaking SNL Digital Shorts series that began in 2005. This episode, titled "Sushi Glory Hole," offers listeners a behind-the-scenes look at the creation, reception, and lasting impact of one of their most memorable sketches.
The discussion kicks off with reflections on the rapid pace of their recent projects. Akiva Schaffer humorously remarks, “[00:18] I already forgot everything,” highlighting the whirlwind nature of their creative endeavors. The centerpiece of the conversation is the digital short “Sushi Glory Hole,” which Andy Samberg enthusiastically recalls hearing ten months prior: “[00:37] ... it was the hardest I've ever laughed, maybe in my life."
Jorma Taccone attributes the genesis of the idea to Akiva, stating, “[08:13] That would be Akiva.” The concept was straightforward yet audacious: sushi being fed through a hole in the wall of a restroom. This premise played on the provocative nature of glory holes, infusing it with the unexpected twist of gourmet sushi.
Akiva Schaffer and Tony Taccone discuss their collaborative efforts in directing the short. They acknowledge the significant contributions of Mike Diva, a longtime friend and talented video director: “[01:03] Mike Diva did a lot of heavy lifting...” This teamwork ensured that both the comedic and visual elements of the short were executed flawlessly.
The aesthetic of “Sushi Glory Hole” was meticulously crafted, drawing inspiration from diverse sources. Jorma explains their stylistic references: “[03:47] Wall Street was the first reference. The original.” They aimed for a look reminiscent of characters in a Guy Ritchie movie, blending high fashion with a quirky twist. The trio meticulously curated their wardrobe, with Akiva noting, “[04:33] We didn't just stop there. We pulled Michael Douglas pictures from Wall Street...” This combination resulted in a unique, colorful appearance that set the tone for the sketch.
Navigating the boundaries of broadcast television, the team encountered challenges with NBC censors. Akiva shares an anecdote about altering a visual gag to comply with broadcasting standards: “[12:01]...a water gun instead of something more explicit.” This adjustment ensured the short could air in primetime without compromising its comedic essence.
Upon its release, “Sushi Glory Hole” received widespread acclaim. Andy reminisces about the initial reactions: “[02:22] It was our Cloverfield.” The sketch not only entertained but also resonated with audiences, cementing its place in SNL history. The impact of the short extends beyond its immediate success, influencing the trajectory of digital content on platforms like YouTube.
The podcast highlights the transformation in producing digital shorts over the years. Akiva notes, “[05:35] They have soundstages now... it is enormous.” The shift to dedicated sound stages during the COVID-19 pandemic streamlined the production process, providing resources like assigned wardrobe and makeup teams that significantly enhanced efficiency and quality.
Comparing the early days of digital shorts to the present, the team observes a marked difference in scale and resources. Akiva reflects, “[06:15] The difference between when we did them and now is... like, the difference between five people and 400 people.” This evolution underscores the growing importance and investment in digital content within the SNL framework.
The conversation is peppered with nostalgic anecdotes that shed light on the camaraderie and creative dynamics of their time at SNL. Jorma shares a memorable moment involving wardrobe, “[05:01] I realized it was the old Golden State Warriors color commentary guy, Jim Barnett,” showcasing the spontaneous humor that defined their working relationships.
Andy recounts his first experience hosting the show solo: “[28:38] And it was terrifying...” He describes drawing inspiration from Coldplay's Chris Martin to overcome his nerves, illustrating the supportive and creative environment fostered by the SNL team.
Interactions with current and former cast members add depth to the discussion. Akiva praises the efficiency of the SNL wardrobe team: “[07:25] Jody's hair extraordinaire,” while Andy compliments the current cast's comedic talents, including Maya Rudolph and Keenan (a likely reference to current cast members).
The trio also touches upon collaborative efforts with writers and directors, emphasizing the seamless integration of new talent: “[24:34] And we were like, hey, this is our show now.” These interactions highlight the inclusive and dynamic nature of the SNL community.
Jorma introduces their latest animated project, “Doug,” sharing his enthusiasm: “[26:46] That's right. Coming this season.” This venture marks a new chapter for The Lonely Island, expanding their creative repertoire beyond live-action digital shorts.
A significant highlight of the episode is the announcement of Andy Samberg's upcoming HBO special: “[27:27] The release date of my HBO special.” Scheduled for October 26th, this special promises to showcase Andy's comedic prowess, further solidifying his status as a leading figure in comedy.
The team briefly touches upon their ongoing projects, including voice roles and animated series. Jorma mentions, “[26:34] No. We developed a show with him way back in the day,” referencing past collaborations that continue to influence their current work.
As the episode wraps up, The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers reflect on the enduring legacy of their SNL Digital Shorts, particularly “Sushi Glory Hole.” They express gratitude for the support from fans and colleagues alike, while also looking forward to future creative endeavors. The conversation blends humor with heartfelt nostalgia, providing a comprehensive glimpse into the minds of some of comedy's most innovative creators.
Notable Quotes:
Andy Samberg [00:37]: "I heard 'Sushi Glory Hole' maybe 10 months ago... it's the hardest I've ever laughed, maybe in my life."
Akiva Schaffer [03:47]: "Wall Street was the first reference. The original."
Jorma Taccone [05:01]: "I realized it was the old Golden State Warriors color commentary guy, Jim Barnett."
Akiva Schaffer [06:15]: "The difference between when we did them and now is... like, the difference between five people and 400 people."
Andy Samberg [27:27]: "The release date of my HBO special."
This episode serves as both a celebratory retrospective and a forward-looking conversation, capturing the essence of The Lonely Island's contribution to modern comedy and their ongoing creative journey.