The Curse

Summary

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The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers Podcast

Episode: The Curse
Date: October 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode reunites SNL alums Andy Samberg, Akiva Schaffer, Jorma Taccone (The Lonely Island), Seth Meyers, and guest Jon Hamm to dissect and reminisce about the making of The Curse, one of their acclaimed SNL Digital Shorts. The group reconstructs how the bizarre, story-driven sketch was conceived, the unique atmosphere during Jon Hamm’s second SNL hosting gig, and what it’s like to collaborate under the pressure and chaos of SNL’s schedule. Their discussion is filled with irreverent tangents, loving jabs, vivid recollections of behind-the-scenes challenges (especially Jon Hamm’s ongoing battle against freezing conditions), and television-geeky breakdowns of writing, filmmaking craft, and audience response. They also field critiques from absent members (notably Akiva’s forensic analysis of the short’s “violations” of film rules), and broaden their SNL mileau, reflecting on how their era shaped and was shaped by Digital Shorts, cast chemistry, and internet culture.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Jon Hamm Returns & Banter (00:00–05:00)

• Opening Jokes & Jon Hamm Intro: Launches with irreverent, rapid-fire riffing about vasectomies and SNL camaraderie.
  • Quote: “The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast show.” — Jon Hamm [01:46]
• Jon Hamm fills in for Akiva, bringing warmth and playful gibes.

2. Rewind: Hamm’s First SNL Episode & SNL’s “Golden Age” Cast (05:00–10:00)

• Stories from Jon Hamm’s First Host Gig: SNL as a deep-bench era with recurring sketches (Bronx Beat, Vincent Price, The A-Holes).
  • Insights into how family emergencies (Amy Poehler’s baby) impacted shows.
  • Quote: “It was just so great. There was just such a deep bench for people to roll through and hit the ball out of the park.” — Jon Hamm [05:33]

3. The Sketch “Don’t Make Me Sing” as Lead-In (05:53–08:38)

• Celebrates Kristen Wiig’s “Don’t Make Me Sing”—its elegant, simple comic game, recurring lines, and acting beats.
  • Detailed recounting of the sketch's logic, structure, and Wiig’s delivery.
  • Quote: “It’s a bummer aunt move. But she has this wonderful voice: ‘Don’t make me sing!’” — Andy Samberg [07:21]

4. How “The Curse” Was Born: Reference Soup (09:12–18:56)

• Origin Story: "The Curse" is a wild mashup of Lost Boys’ sax man Tim Capello, the Kool-Aid Man, and horror anthology tropes (Tales from the Darkside).
  • Andy and Akiva recall how finding weird moments in B-movies (like Tim Capello’s oiled-up sax solo) became "comedy-nerd signals" pre-Internet virality.
  • Adds Jon Hamm’s own Tim Capello story—a roadie-vet who aided his late dog also worked with Capello.
  • Quote: “But to marry that with the Kool Aid man and then slather it with a Stephen King thinner story…” — Jon Hamm [14:47]

5. Breaking Down “The Curse”: Writing & Production (22:16–39:19)

• Filmmaking Team: Predominantly written by Andy Samberg and Jonathan Krisel, with Akiva and Jorma out editing MacGruber.
• Efficient Storytelling: Praised for rapid, clear setup and beat-to-beat escalation (“in 41 seconds... we know everything we need to know” — Andy Samberg [26:42]).
• Jon Hamm’s On-Set Ordeal: Recurring joke/misery about being freezing cold, greased up, and barely able to breathe blowing into a prop sax.
  • Quote: “...we’re shooting at two in the morning, it’s freezing cold, and I’m covered in gel.” — Jon Hamm [31:12]
• Structure of the Short: The curse is established; escalating sax-man interruptions; a horror-movie ending with “Sergio” (Hamm) emerging at a childbirth.
  • Quote: “It’s a full fucking horror movie... Wig passes out, Hader screams, and then we have one of my favorite Andy faces—horse mouth open sob.” — Andy Samberg [38:21]
• Economy of Story: The short runs only 3:45 but packs in set-up, rule-of-three escalation, and a cinematic conclusion.
  • Quote: “You guys are tremendous at the economy of storytelling.” — Jon Hamm [37:17]

6. Filmmaking Critique: Akiva’s Forensic Notes (42:43–48:13)

• Voice Note from Akiva: Meticulously (and humorously) skewers the sketch for “breaking the line” (eyelines, editing geography), color correction, and “amateur” filmmaking.
  • Quote: “At 1:03... you jump the eyeline... I just know we’re not in control… not reliable filmmakers.” — Akiva [44:01]
• Group responds with a mix of genuine reflection, defense (“the moment a guy comes through the wall, I’m fine” — Seth [48:04]), and self-effacing glee at Akiva’s auteur-level standards.

7. Audience Reactions & Legacy (39:26–56:00)

• “The Curse” played hot with the studio crowd; cited as a “criteria 100%” classic (i.e., canonical Digital Short) and placed deep in SNL’s Digital Short bracket.
  • “How often do people reference Sergio on the street?” Hamm: “A lot. A lot, a lot. Especially... 2010 had a good run of people screaming ‘Sergio!’ at me.” [56:40]

8. Rest of the Episode/Sketches in Show (58:02–67:39)

• Recaps rest of Jon Hamm’s 2010 SNL episode:
  • Ham & Bubbly (Hamm and Michael Bublé as forced restaurant partners)
  • Forte’s “Closet Organizer” physical-gag infomercials (“pies, pies, pies!”) & elaborate callbacks
  • Fred Armisen’s stenographer character (“I can’t find my crackers!”).
• Celebrates this as a “perfect three-sketch act” and “Anne golden era” episode.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• 00:12 | Jon Hamm: “It feels like exactly the right time.”
• 09:59 | Andy Samberg: “Alright, wait. So first of all... you hosted in October of ’08... now this is January 30th of 2010—about 16 months. By then, everyone is sick. 100% disaster time to come through and host the show.”
• 16:38 | Jon Hamm on vet helping his late dog, turns out to be a Tim Capello roadie: “She goes, ‘Hey, you know what? I used to be a roadie for Tim Capello.’”
• 31:12 | Jon Hamm on filming conditions: “It’s probably two in the morning, it’s freezing cold, and I’m covered in gel...on more than one occasion, I almost passed out.”
• 38:21 | Andy Samberg on ending of “The Curse”: “Wig passes out, Hader screams, and then we have one of my favorite Andy faces—horse mouth open sob.”
• 44:01 | Akiva on the filmmaking: “At 1:03… you jump the eyeline… I just know we’re not in control… not reliable filmmakers… That’s just sloppy and wrong.”
• 56:40 | Jon Hamm on Sergio’s street fame: “It had a good run of people, like, coming up to me on the street and yelling, ‘SERGIO!’ at me.”
• 75:39 | Andy Samberg: “A bunch of [young SNL writers] said this podcast was more helpful in telling them how the show worked than anything anybody at the show has told them.”

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Segment Timestamps

• 00:00–02:10: Cold open; Jon Hamm guest intro; vasectomy bits
• 05:00–10:00: Hamm’s first SNL memory; cast strength; Poehler’s baby
• 06:00–08:40: “Don’t Make Me Sing” discussion
• 09:05–12:50: Mad Men crossover; concept riffing for “The Curse”
• 13:07–18:56: Lost Boys sax man origin, tape trading among comedy nerds
• 22:16–37:41: Breakdown of “The Curse": structure, beats, production
• 39:19–56:00: Legacy, audience reaction, SNL 'bracket' talk
• 42:43–48:13: Akiva's voice note critique
• 58:02–66:00: Recap and praise of rest of the episode's sketches
• 67:39–End: Fred’s stenographer sketch, meta references, SNL legacy talk

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Energy, Language & Tone

• Language: Fast, nerdy, and joyfully profane (casual F-bombs, running bits about being cold, “sticky” characters, inside SNL stories).
• Tone: Self-deprecating, playful, irreverent; earnest about the craft, generous with credit and blame. Lively crackle of deep creative friendship and recurring joke structures (especially at Jon Hamm’s expense).

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Conclusion & Lasting Takeaways

The episode is a sprawling, affectionate peek behind the scenes of one of the wildest SNL Digital Shorts ("The Curse"), driven by the easy rapport, sharp memories, and obsessive comic energy of the hosts. The technical side—tight writing, performer chemistry, the bliss/chaos of shooting at SNL—is constantly juxtaposed with self-critique and loving in-group teasing. Their discussion reveals what makes sketches like “The Curse” work: weird referential soup, relentless commitment from the cast (no matter how freezing), and, occasionally, ignoring the “rules”—sometimes by accident.

Final words:

“Jon Hamm, you are Anne golden, host from Anne golden era.” — Andy Samberg [77:37]

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Skipped advertisements and off-topic (spelling bee, ads, personal asides) per instructions; focus on creative and production-related content.

Transcript

[Seth Meyers]

Hey, Seth, I know that this isn't the right time to bring this up, but will you actually come pick me up from the vasectomy when I get one?

[Andy Samberg]

Like.

[Seth Meyers]

Like, I just want to said in.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Front of you isn't the right time to bring it up. I feel like this is the only place it's ever discussed.

[John Hamm]

It feels like exactly the right time.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. I mean, ideally, we're not having a second conversation about this after this.

[John Hamm]

Listen. Get it out of the way, I guess.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, yeah, I just want to wrap it up. I just want to put a, you know, button on it and fucking be done with it. Like, can you do it?

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, but, like, when are you going to do it? I'll do it whenever.

[Seth Meyers]

Is, like, good for.

[Andy Samberg]

Well, I just. My problem is, did it get harder because now I have to, like, carry you to the car or something?

[John Hamm]

His penis.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I was gonna say. I don't think it affects that.

[Seth Meyers]

It did seem like we were talking about my penis.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, historically.

[John Hamm]

No.

[Seth Meyers]

I'll figure it out with Kevin. I'll do it on an off week, or maybe that's worse, but we'll figure it out.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So, Yorm, you've had a bad accident, and you're in your late 40s. Does it get harder?

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, we're off and running.

[Seth Meyers]

Jon Hamm is here.

[John Hamm]

A lot more Vaz talk than I was expecting.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, man. Like that there's any at all.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, hey, John, if you're in town, you can come too.

[John Hamm]

Fine.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm.

[John Hamm]

You know, I've had to. I've had to enlist a lot of very unwilling participants to pick me up after my colonoscopies.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Now, John, you always say you got to give the Vass a lot of deference, right? You're always paying deference to the vast.

[John Hamm]

I give mad deference to the V.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, what's the difference between the difference.

[John Hamm]

This is.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Is this something, Seth.

[John Hamm]

There's a vast difference between the difference of the difference. Once it's cut. There's a difference.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You got to be differential when it.

[Andy Samberg]

Comes to the V. I'm just very excited about, like, just a couple days into the future when Keev is like, so this is what it turns into.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Fuck him.

[Andy Samberg]

You know what?

[John Hamm]

Fuck him.

[Seth Meyers]

This is a wonderful shit show.

[John Hamm]

The Lonely island and Seth Meyers podcast show.

[Andy Samberg]

So Akiva couldn't be here today, but he said, please replace me with what he called a Keeve type. And then he gave us a list.

[Seth Meyers]

Yep. And then top of the list, Jon.

[Andy Samberg]

Hamm was The only name on the list, Jon Hamm.

[John Hamm]

A selection of one.

[Andy Samberg]

Welcome, Jon Hamm.

[John Hamm]

Hi, guys.

[Andy Samberg]

It's very exciting. We are talking about Jon Hamm. This is your second time hosting, but it's your first short and it is.

[John Hamm]

My first longtime listener, first time attendee.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[John Hamm]

Dan Skippus at the peak.

[Andy Samberg]

You are a member of Quaid army in good standing. I think we all know that.

[Seth Meyers]

Hope very much so. We get more texts from this guy than most. Quaid Army.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

F O T S friend of the show.

[John Hamm]

I do check in quite a bit. I might have been the first guy to give you my own very solid nickname, which we may or may not want to share, but.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, yeah, probably not.

[John Hamm]

Probably not.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Should we do a classic thing where we say it and then Seth has them cut it out and everyone gets mad at him?

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, but then we. But then we.

[John Hamm]

Like you did last time. Yeah, what the fuck?

[Andy Samberg]

Then we hear the reaction. Just saying what it is.

[John Hamm]

Well, I dubbed this. This group.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, that's right.

[Seth Meyers]

Leave it perfect.

[John Hamm]

A lot of extra letters.

[Andy Samberg]

It's always good to start the show.

[Seth Meyers]

With something that they can't hear.

[Andy Samberg]

Um, John, I don't know if this is your memory, but your first episode was an exceptionally good first episode for anybody hosting. And yet I think this is better.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I was looking at that rundown Seth Lee, and I was like, this was a banger show.

[Andy Samberg]

This is peak. Golden era.

[John Hamm]

I mean, I'm not gonna. Yeah. Not to toot my own horn, but it. Or my own saxophone. Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Foreshadowing. Well, you know, that's another. Foreshadowing is also another word for a vasectomy.

[Seth Meyers]

Vasectomy, I was gonna say thank you for scrotary.

[Andy Samberg]

Be there.

[Seth Meyers]

Be square.

[John Hamm]

Yeah. The reason why the first one stood out so significantly to me, foreshadowing is.

[Akiva Schaffer]

When you're interning at a bris.

[Seth Meyers]

I was going to say the vasectomy. You have to be uncircumcised.

[John Hamm]

Let me just hang out here by you, Rabbi. Sorry, I just want to foreshadow a little bit.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, yeah, I was foreshadowing. I was just seeing how it's done. It's amazing.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You got to get a certain number of hours. It's like your pilot's license.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Everybody has a first time, first day at school.

[Seth Meyers]

Have you guys been to one of those?

[John Hamm]

Brisk school.

[Andy Samberg]

Have I been to one of those.

[Seth Meyers]

How many bris have you guys been to? Yeah, I've been to one.

[Andy Samberg]

I've been to two.

[Seth Meyers]

Two.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, two. Voice.

[John Hamm]

I think I. I must have had one performed on me. Although they probably didn't call it a bris.

[Andy Samberg]

Right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, yeah, I definitely attended my own.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, that's a good one, I'm sure there.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, that's the best one to attend. Yeah.

[John Hamm]

But obviously the reason it was so. It stood out to me so much was because Poehler had a baby the first time I hosted. So that was its own kind of very special episode.

[Andy Samberg]

And then what you famously referred to as stealing your thunder, very, very clearly.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Very vocal about that.

[John Hamm]

Got an extra update piece out of it. Elisabeth Moss had to come in. They cut my Bronx Beat. There's a lot going on there. The hell.

[Andy Samberg]

The heel.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Polar's such a shit stash.

[Andy Samberg]

The heel.

[Seth Meyers]

Defend yourself.

[Andy Samberg]

Puller the heel. You. I remember you loudly saying to Lauren like they'd still do Bronx Beat if Betty was sick.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

And you just thought it should have been a one woman Bronx beat.

[John Hamm]

It's a one on one. Just make it a one on one. Oh, she couldn't be here.

[Andy Samberg]

But yeah, also, I mean, again, your first show is great. It's a Vincent Price, it's a Jeff Montgomery, it's a. A Holes. So like you would think, based on that, tough to beat.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, we had some home runs on the first one for sure. But as you said, man, so many home run hitters in the cast. I just. Anything that was coming back was clearly something that already worked not only with the audience, but you could kind of plug and play with people that were really having fun with it. So for example, yeah, Brock Speed being one of them. Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to do. I think they did it later with Gyllenhaal, maybe. I can't remember.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, Jake did one.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, somebody else came back and did that one. But yeah, I mean, the A Holes, like, it was so. It was so great. It was just so great. There was just such a deep bench for people to roll through and hit the ball out of the park.

[Andy Samberg]

But like, I look through this, I feel like across the board, almost everybody has a perfect sort of representation of what their best version of a sketch is in this show.

[Seth Meyers]

Give some examples you're looking at.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, so wig off the top. You have wig doing Don't Make Me Sing, which is. Oh, my God, literally an all time great sketch that I have rewatched recently.

[John Hamm]

So have I.

[Andy Samberg]

Independent of this podcast.

[John Hamm]

Yep, me too.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I do still quote it.

[John Hamm]

Me too.

[Andy Samberg]

I mean, the premise of Don't Make Me Sing is it's a, you know, Sort of like Roaring twenties type dinner party. Everybody's asking John to play piano. And then just sort of from the back of the room, wig says, don't make me sing. And it's this really. The game is very simple, which is she keeps saying, don't make me sing, even though no one has asked you.

[John Hamm]

No one has asked you.

[Andy Samberg]

And it works really well. Everybody's on board.

[John Hamm]

Do you want to sing? No, I couldn't possibly. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everyone's making me. Everyone's making me.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Don't make me sing.

[Andy Samberg]

And they. Then you. I can't remember what it is. Like, somebody says, can you play Rhapsody in Blue? And she goes, Old Bill Bailey. So she very much only knows how to sing Old Bill Bailey. Fortunately, you, as her accompaniment, does know how to play it. And then the game, which again, it was a fun enough game that she was like, don't make me sing. Is that she's also terrible at singing. She won't.

[John Hamm]

She has no rhythm and can't come in on the beat.

[Andy Samberg]

She keeps missing the end.

[John Hamm]

Yes.

[Andy Samberg]

And it's a really.

[John Hamm]

And then gets frustrated and takes it out on everybody else because they ruined it. You're making me sing.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I feel like a lot of wig characters are like, unofficially, and some officially are like a person's bummer aunt.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, for sure.

[Seth Meyers]

Surprise.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, this one is the fun thing. It's a bummer aunt move. But she has this wonderful voice. Don't make me sing. And then.

[John Hamm]

Was that first up?

[Andy Samberg]

That was early. I think that was the first sketch out of the monologue.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Was it the first don't make me sing?

[Andy Samberg]

I think it was the only.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, then it was.

[John Hamm]

That was a one and done.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. So technically you were right.

[Andy Samberg]

But time for me to spike the football. There's a great moment where she's having trouble coming in and.

[John Hamm]

And sing.

[Andy Samberg]

Sing on the one and the one.

[John Hamm]

Do you need a signal?

[Andy Samberg]

Just nod when you need me to commence.

[John Hamm]

Oh, hello. You missed it.

[Andy Samberg]

She immediately forgets the nod. She thinks you're, like, flirting with her.

[John Hamm]

Hello.

[Andy Samberg]

Also then everybody's mad and finally they just ask you to play, you know, some.

[John Hamm]

Some freeform jazz, I believe. Doodly doodly doo doo doo.

[Andy Samberg]

And then immediately. Do you remember what she says when you start playing freeform jazz?

[John Hamm]

Oh, don't make me dance.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, don't make me dance.

[Akiva Schaffer]

An escalation Ham.

[Seth Meyers]

Were you a part of the writing process with this one for. With the sublet Anderson? Do you remember?

[Andy Samberg]

No.

[John Hamm]

So coming back the second time I was.

[Seth Meyers]

I was first of all thrilled and so cocky. Right. Just fucking like.

[John Hamm]

I will say I was definitely not cocky, but I definitely felt like I was very cognizant of what was to be expected.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Much more so from the first time, which was utterly unaware.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

And so I was more excited than nervous. So I was. I was stoked because again, by this point I kind of knew almost everybody. I knew some people Conan the first time, but I knew most of you guys much more after. This was almost a year later because I did the Halloween episode and this was like Valentine's Day or something like that.

[Seth Meyers]

You also knew us from like stopping by the show though. I felt like there was this real crossover between Mad Men and For sure.

[John Hamm]

And I remember coming in to see you guys in your office. I remember it was just so cold. And you guys were all sick.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, yeah.

[John Hamm]

And this is like a pre Covid idea of people being sick. And it's like, let's just hang out in a closed room together, guys, because we're all super sick.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

And you guys being really tired and really sick. And like, we have this one idea because I didn't get to do the short. The first time I hosted it was Roz Trent. And you guys were like, we have this one idea. It's like the Kool Aid man, but you're Tim Capelli from the Lost Boys. And I was like, that's really funny. You're never going to do that. But I'll do it if you guys want. Haha. See you never. Because you're never going to do it. And then literally, like two days later, you're like, well, here's the sax. And I was like, oh, here's your outfit.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, wait. So first of all, I do wanna say it's January 30th. So you host in October of 08. Now this is January 30th of 2010. So it's been about 16 months.

[John Hamm]

Okay.

[Andy Samberg]

But that is when I think about a January 30th show, that is where everybody is sick. 100% a disaster. Time to come through and host the show.

[John Hamm]

It was so cold.

[Andy Samberg]

So if we're gonna get into the short talk about this Lost Boys character, which is not like the most iconic character, but like yhorm and Andy. Like, was this the thing that you talked about?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Let me ask a question.

[Seth Meyers]

It is for certain people, I feel like.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Let me ask some prelim questions. I know Keith wasn't there. Oh my God. John has a picture of him framed on his wall.

[Andy Samberg]

Wait, is it from the sign by the guy?

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my God.

[John Hamm]

And it says, the inscription says, thank you for giving me a second career.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God, what a dream.

[Seth Meyers]

That's wonderful. That's, like, why you do do art, you know?

[John Hamm]

One of the key grips that I worked with on a movie was his cousin, and he said, I've got to get. I've got to give you this picture that my cousin promised if I ever met you, I would give you a picture. And he did.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I don't use this phrase often, but that fucking rocks.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, Andy, why don't you explain what the reference is a little.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, first off, Keith was not here this week. Were you there?

[Seth Meyers]

I don't know if I was either.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Because I don't think you were, because this is my recollection. Yeah, you are the one who showed this to me. I had seen Lost Boys when I was a kid, but shockingly, one of the things I didn't remember vividly was Tim shredding on sax in the concert scene. So you were obsessed with it. I want to give.

[John Hamm]

It's a little bit blinking. You miss it?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. I want to give you the credit for bringing it to my attention.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't know if it's blink and you miss it. You guys gotta watch Lost Boys in here.

[John Hamm]

I mean, if you blink, like, if you blink, like, you blink for like three or four seconds.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

In a super slow mo blink.

[Seth Meyers]

He is rocking out.

[Andy Samberg]

So I just want to. I'm going to briefly just read the Tim Capello Wikipedia. Tim Capello, also credited as Timmy Capello, is an American multi instrumentalist, composer, and vocalist. He is primarily known for his saxophone work supporting Tina Turner in the 80s and 90s, as well as for his musical performance in the 1987 vampire film The Lost Boys. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah. You can definitely tell it's a famous person. Cause you're like, why would you stay on this as long as you are in this particular film? Cause it's not really about a saxophonist.

[John Hamm]

It's not remotely about a saxophonist.

[Seth Meyers]

You're right. You're right.

[Andy Samberg]

When you walked out of Lost Boys Yorm, you were like, I thought the balance between vampire and that saxophone guy was good.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I felt like it was mostly not about.

[John Hamm]

That was probably the best vampire saxophone movie I ever saw.

[Seth Meyers]

I can't remember who was more obsessed with it. Was it Akiva or like. Because, you know, we all live together and I feel like these were things that got. These were like early viral moments from things, you know, I mean, like that without the Internet that didn't actually happen.

[John Hamm]

I can see that. Like, that's definitely something that you're like, this is way, way too long of a cutaway to the grinding, leather clad, shirtless crotch.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Of this dude wailing on a sax, crushing a concert scene.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Like thrusting and busting and really, really thrusting and gyrating.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. And oiled up and looking fucking selling it proper well.

[Seth Meyers]

But I also feel like in a Teen Witch kind of way, like the rap scene from Teen Witch, like, those are also things that Keith got pretty obsessed with as well. So I'm not sure what like.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, Teen Witch was me because I was.

[Seth Meyers]

That was you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It was on cable. The one. One of the cable channels I had growing up Teen, which was on over and over. And me and my sister.

[John Hamm]

I feel like that's what kind of constituted virality in that certain time in the late 90s was. If it was on Nickelodeon or some cable channel that you had on heavy rotation, then you were going to pick out the important parts.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Me and my sister would do top that with each other.

[Seth Meyers]

And if you were particularly sarcastic k watching these things, you'd be like, oh, my God, what was that?

[Andy Samberg]

What was that?

[Seth Meyers]

Saxophone.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, especially growing up in the Bay and being super into rap and being like, what is this?

[Andy Samberg]

But noticing Tim Capello in Lost Boys, like, this was an early way to signal people that you sort of had like comedy nerd cred like that you knew the reference.

[John Hamm]

I had certainly never heard heard of it. I knew Lost Boys, but it did not stand out to me because I had only seen it a few times.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I only knew it because Yoram had showed it to us and we were like, that's fucking incredible.

[Seth Meyers]

Okay.

[John Hamm]

But to marry that with the Kool Aid man and then slather it with a Stephen King thinner story.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, it was actually threefold because the structure of it is based on an old. I wanna say Twilight Zone episode.

[Andy Samberg]

Sounds right.

[Seth Meyers]

Ooh, classy. That sounds classy, bro.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Way better than that, which is a guy. I forget the actual real thing. It's basically like a guy. This might have been a 90s Twilight Zone reboot or something less classy hit us and the Titus. Someone out there is definitely going to know what I'm talking about.

[John Hamm]

It's ringing a bell for me where.

[Akiva Schaffer]

A guy is like visited by a gargoyle or something. Or there's like a murderer, he accidentally kills someone and a gargoyle from his building turns real and tells him he'll get away with it.

[Andy Samberg]

It's a movie and that stars Ray Don Chong. So I can look it up.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No, it was an episode.

[Andy Samberg]

No, no, no, I know what it is. Hold on. Keep going.

[Seth Meyers]

All right, I'm pretty sure that Andy's right behind me.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Quest for fire.

[Andy Samberg]

Keep going, keep going.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, it might be in the Twilight Zone movie, and it's one of a bunch of vignettes. I don't know.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[John Hamm]

All right, while you guys Google, I'm going to bring in one more bizarre coincidence that has to do with Tim Capello. So at the time, I had my first dog, and over the course of my dog's life, lovely dog lived for me for 15 years. Not to bring up dead dogs, but my dog had to be put down crispy.

[Akiva Schaffer]

John, I'm so sorry for your loss.

[John Hamm]

My dog, Cora. Actually, we didn't. We didn't have to put her down. She ended up dying in her sleep. But at a certain point, we had to, you know, kind of wrap her up and take her away to get cremated and all the other stuff. So we had a end of life kind of veterinarian that had been with her and given her all this, like, acupuncture and stuff over the course of her. Of her later part of her life. While this woman is taking my dog, who passed away peacefully in the night, wrapping her up kind of and putting her in a way to take away to the place, she goes, hey, you know what? I used to be a roadie for Tim Capello.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Wow.

[John Hamm]

I was like, wait, what? She goes, I was in my previous career, I was like a roadie for Tina Turner and Journey and all these guys. I'd be on the road with them. And Timmy Capello was one of the guys that. He's a really nice guy anyway, you know, And I'm like, there's a lot of emotions going on in my head right now. But nostalgia wasn't. I didn't think was going to be one of them.

[Andy Samberg]

You're like, shell shocked. Hey, you sad about your dog? You want to think about something fun?

[John Hamm]

No. How about this?

[Andy Samberg]

All right. I'm right. It was Tales from the Dark side, the movie.

[Seth Meyers]

Really?

[John Hamm]

Yes, I do remember that. I knew that was ringing your bell.

[Andy Samberg]

And I went to see this on a date, and it's a lover's vow. It was a three vignette stories.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Preston is a struggling artist. He lives in a studio with a skylight through which a large stone gargoyle on a neighboring building peers down. Preston's agent calls, asking to meet him at a bar. A Few blocks away, the agent along the way, Preston, stops to relieve himself at a back alley when his friend sees and shoots at a gargoyle monster. The creature attacks, severing his hand and then decapitating him. Terrified, Preston tries to run away, but the creature corners him and speaks, agreeing to spare his life if he swears never to reveal what he.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Right, yes. And then his life goes on as normal. He meets a woman, he falls in love, he has kids, and then he fucks up at the end and tells her what he saw, and she goes, no. And, like, her skin and stuff falls off and she's the gargoyle. And then you pan over and their two kids are little gargoyle kids. It's so fucking heavy and scary. Anyway, this is not one for one with that, but this and like other Twilight Zone y things, this structure of someone's an asshole. They get a curse put on them. They're like, yeah, right. And then it starts coming to pass. And so the idea here was, what if that curse was the saxophone guy from Lost Boys busted through the wall like the Kool Aid, man.

[Andy Samberg]

Every.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Every time. You're a piece of shit.

[Andy Samberg]

I mean, it's really fascinating to eventually get to the place where we realize these three disparate threads, because as the shorts go, this one does have, like, the most story structure and to be honest, like, a very terrifying ending.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Agreed.

[Andy Samberg]

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[Seth Meyers]

Guys, I got another great idea for a billion dollar company. This one is don't take this idea. It's puffballs that you would use to powder your face, but they're also marshmallows. So you can powder your face, get all that oil on there, that delicious oil, and then eat them. Okay, you guys, don't take my idea. You know, if you've shopped online, chances are you bought from businesses that, like in the future will be powered like mine by Shopify. You know that purple shop pay button that you see at checkout? The one that makes buying so incredibly easy? That's Shopify. And there's a reason that so many businesses sell with it. Because Shopify makes it incredibly easy to start and run your business. Shopify is the commerce platform behind 10% of all e commerce in the US from household names like Mattel. That Mattel. And Gymshark. Yeah, that Gymshark. To brands just getting started like mine, which I don't have a name yet. So, you know, weigh in on the comments if you want to see less cards being abandoned. It's time for you to head over to Shopify. Sign up for your $1 per month trial and start selling today at shopify.com lonelyisland Go to shopify.com lonelyisland Shopify. Don't even need to spell it.com lonelyisland.

[Akiva Schaffer]

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[John Hamm]

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[Akiva Schaffer]

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[John Hamm]

But that said, it does get to the punch pretty quick again. You guys are so efficient.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, here's the thing though. Let's give credit where credit's due here because this is a predominantly Kreisel and Andy, because I don't remember this at all either. And that was. And I'm looking at the date of this. And I'm like, oh, we were deep in the edit of MacGruber which was down the street at the Brill Building, which is another, like SNL office.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, I remember it was the first time I'd met Kreisel.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, I think it was just me and. And Jonathan.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's, you know, I mean, I know Keev has his own thoughts on this short as well, that we'll get.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Sent in a voice note. I haven't. But I haven't listened to his voice note. I also will say I have not watched the Curse, I don't think since it aired.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm very excited to watch this one with you, Turkie.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, so you haven't even watched it to get ready for this?

[Akiva Schaffer]

No, I intentionally didn't because I want to come in like, truly having like a fresh look at it.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, I'm very excited. Did you watch it, Ham?

[John Hamm]

I've seen it, yeah. On multiple occasions. I haven't watched it specifically for this, but I've seen it probably in the last six months because you have it.

[Seth Meyers]

Like geared up and like ready to show to people.

[Andy Samberg]

Right.

[Seth Meyers]

Anytime you do a new job, you're.

[John Hamm]

Like, oh, every time I see it makes me laugh.

[Andy Samberg]

Also, look, old Structure Myers. I mean, I love how the pieces fit together in this thing.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You like that?

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, I remember when it ended having a real. My God, they've done it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, let's get to. Let's get to the ending after we watch because I do want to talk.

[Andy Samberg]

About how that felt also. One comment I feel like I have to read after Yorm established that he and Keev weren't there. And of course they were not there for last week's short as well. Laser Cats 5, one of the Quaid army wrote in. I thought you guys might be interested in how many times Kiver Yorm mentioned how many times they weren't there this week. So I listened to the pod twice and double checked my work. They each said it 1 million times. I really like our fans and I do think. I just want Quaid army to know. I think one of the reasons that Yoram and Keev point out why they weren't there is to get out of the way of any credit they might catch. Yes, they're actually doing it for the most noble. It comes.

[John Hamm]

That's how it feels to me.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes, it comes from a place of sort of an obscene ability.

[Seth Meyers]

But when you hear Keeb's voice note, which I did listen to, he's got some critiques oh yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And he had them. I don't know if that's. He had them on Sunday to me.

[Seth Meyers]

And I distinctly remember watching this one and not having nearly the.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'll be curious to see what he said. His voice note. It's one of the only times ever with Ki Vero's like, like, come on, man.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, seriously, like he was.

[John Hamm]

He was pick. He was picking some nits. Really.

[Akiva Schaffer]

He wasn't there, you know.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, very interesting. All right, should I share screen and you guys tell me when to stop?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yes, please, Seth.

[John Hamm]

They also have the. The audience response sometimes in the audio of these, right? Because I remember it playing really hot.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, we'll be hearing that. So we'll. We're going to put that theory to the test. Hammer.

[Seth Meyers]

Good music so far.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I immediately like the music. Uh huh. Yeah. No, I hear what you're saying, Bradley, but if she wants to play on the big leagues, she's gonna have to get her hands dirty.

[Seth Meyers]

You.

[Andy Samberg]

You break the sacred talisman.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Maybe you shouldn't have left it lying in the street. You pay me. Kiss my ass.

[John Hamm]

Did you guys write that?

[Andy Samberg]

I curse you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Nice try, buddy.

[Andy Samberg]

Anyways, all right. I mean we've established everything we need right there.

[John Hamm]

Bingo.

[Seth Meyers]

It's a real movie.

[John Hamm]

We know why it's called the curse.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

And not Sergio.

[Andy Samberg]

We get Sergio out there.

[Akiva Schaffer]

We think this is in the 80s. Yeah, 90s.

[Andy Samberg]

We think based on the car and your look, this guy is definitely related to the dude you played in Hero Song.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Uh huh.

[John Hamm]

Yes, for sure. Same suit.

[Akiva Quaid]

Similar.

[Andy Samberg]

And everything about your look again, you know, early digital shorts, you did not have the full wardrobe department behind you. They absolutely murder it both with your look and Fred's look.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. Also the sacred talisman is like just a dream catcher.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, it's a dream catcher.

[Seth Meyers]

It's a cool dream catcher.

[John Hamm]

I like Andy when your hair is blown dry because it really does. It gets a lot of loft.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, it's a.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You can see who I would have been in New York in the 80s for sure.

[Andy Samberg]

But everything again, we're 41 seconds in and that is with the digital short title card. And we know everything we need to know.

[John Hamm]

Fred committed to the bit even as the shot plays off of him too.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, Ham, I don't know if Fred improv the curse, fake language, but I think he probably did.

[John Hamm]

I think he probably did. I'm guessing.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Another Fred character. That is of course unlike every like snowflake characters from Fred. And by that I mean none are exactly alike.

[John Hamm]

Not exactly alike.

[Seth Meyers]

Can I comment on one thing that I think Akiba is already gonna have had a problem with is the jump cut push in as we pull back, and then there's a push in on you. Like, there's a jump.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So you already listened to his voice note?

[Seth Meyers]

No, I don't think he mentions that in the voice note. But, like, but I'm sure because I remember him being like, we would never do that. That's just not what we do. And I was like, oh, my gosh.

[John Hamm]

It's not part of our visual vocabulary.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

I do want to just drill down on how quick he found the logic problem of Yoram saying, I already listened to it. And then yor. I'm saying, I wonder if this is going to be in it.

[John Hamm]

You're rubbing off on him.

[Seth Meyers]

So that's. That's true. I like, I. I ham. I blame a lot of stuff on this pod now of my drug use. That because I'm on a lot of painkillers because of my. Yeah, it works pretty good.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, since I have that, somebody said, I love that. Yarma and my 15 pound terrier are on the same medication.

[Seth Meyers]

By the way, everybody talks about other dogs on this.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Man.

[John Hamm]

I gave my dog Gabapentin the other day.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

First of all, I take more of it than a dog. All right, Is that good?

[John Hamm]

I don't know. My dog's 95 pounds. He's probably on similar dose.

[Seth Meyers]

Probably take double that.

[Andy Samberg]

Is your dog taking it because it fell off a ladder?

[Seth Meyers]

All right, just keep going. Press.

[Akiva Schaffer]

All right, guys, I know numbers are down, but if we just apply this system, I promise you we're going to see revenue skyrocketing. Can we pause? I think this is the exact same setup as, like, a boss.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. No, it really does. And hair wise, too.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Same hair, basically the same suit.

[Seth Meyers]

It's also like, the same stock footage is in, like, roughly, like 90%.

[John Hamm]

I noticed it's just ice cream flavors on the spreadsheet thing behind you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, is it?

[John Hamm]

Yeah. Chocolate, rocky road, strawberry, vanilla. Like, you're really seriously disgusting.

[Akiva Schaffer]

That's what this guy does.

[Seth Meyers]

He's an ice cream guy.

[John Hamm]

We stick to the process.

[Andy Samberg]

If you want to know how you keep one of these moving, it's that he says things like, tell her if she wants to be in the big league, she's got to learn how to play ball. And also, I know numbers are down.

[Akiva Schaffer]

She's got to get her hands dirty.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, he's got a hand. Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

That woman likes it.

[Akiva Quaid]

Little.

[Seth Meyers]

Little nod from that lady.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Lady.

[Seth Meyers]

The ladies like it.

[Andy Samberg]

Guys, Guys. Marcy. Steve.

[John Hamm]

Sergio.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, so a lot happened.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. Not what you're. If you didn't know what this was about, I'm guessing that's not what you were guessing was gonna happen.

[John Hamm]

The audience certainly didn't really know what was going on.

[Andy Samberg]

They're not with it. They're not with it yet.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I think there was a bit of a laugh. No, a titter.

[Andy Samberg]

There's a bit of a laugh, but it's the bill. I'm. I'm only saying, like, I want to get full credit for how it builds in both. How the beats are better and the storytelling gets very sticky.

[John Hamm]

They're not quite sure what they're laughing at yet, other than it is absurd. The audience, I feel like, is treating it kind of like the people around that conference room table were. Which they're kind of like, looking like, what's happening?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Okay. Oh, I'm gonna get up and start dancing now.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Pretty positive.

[Andy Samberg]

Also, one woman and one man got up to dance.

[John Hamm]

Well, you know.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. It wasn't just that the ladies are into it.

[Seth Meyers]

There's some pretty good cutaways of your bod too.

[Andy Samberg]

We also don't quite know it's a horror movie yet because nothing really horrific has happened. Even you weren't that scared, Andy.

[John Hamm]

Correct. Just a little confused.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Confused, yeah. Like, what the hell? Guy just burst through the wall.

[John Hamm]

Now, I will say, I want to remind everybody that when we're shooting these things, we're on some. What are we on? Like, ninth floor. Some weird six seat. We're building these stages in some random place. It's probably two in the morning and it's freezing cold wherever the place is. We're shooting on these stages. It's so cold, and I'm covered in gel.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, you are.

[John Hamm]

And I'm blowing out, but I can't blow out because I have to puff out my cheeks and there's no reed in that saxophone.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

So I'm basically holding my breath. And on more than one occasion, I almost passed out. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

You're saying acting is hard, right?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Like, I mean, don't forget we're all sick.

[Seth Meyers]

Everyone's sick. This is pre covered, but people still get sick.

[Akiva Schaffer]

All right, let's keep going. Yeah. It was crazy.

[Akiva Quaid]

Sorry, Seth.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Can we stop? That was a big laugh at the end of that first.

[John Hamm]

Sergio.

[Andy Samberg]

You're right. Take it back.

[Seth Meyers]

Pause.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And then again.

[Andy Samberg]

I'm a huge fan of it, Andy.

[Akiva Schaffer]

All right, sorry. I'm sorry.

[Andy Samberg]

I'll play It. All right, let's play again, Sergio.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, it was crazy. There you go. You look dazzling.

[John Hamm]

Dazzling.

[Andy Samberg]

Jenny, the wind is back.

[Seth Meyers]

The best use of Lenny Pickett ever.

[John Hamm]

This might be some of my favorite dancing ever done on the show.

[Akiva Schaffer]

She's going crazy.

[John Hamm]

That's like. She looks like a car salesman. Balloon guy.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, it's very good. Very nice work with what she's given by Jenny Sl in this short.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Also, that moves pretty fast, that beat.

[John Hamm]

Quick beat.

[Andy Samberg]

Totally.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Now it's gaining momentum. That's what helped with that one.

[Andy Samberg]

Now we are in. If you want to know what Steve Higgins office looks like, everybody on 17 just like this. We are in it right now. It is Sudeikis as a therapist and Andy on a couch. We know right away this is therapist stuff. And here we go.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I know it sounds crazy, but I'm starting to genuinely believe I've been cursed by a homeless.

[Akiva Quaid]

How do you mean?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, I broke this trinket and now every time I feel a gust of wind, this crazy sexy sax guy comes bursting through the wall. So these are daydreams. No, I think it's actually happening.

[Akiva Quaid]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[John Hamm]

Not again.

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, sorry. It was a little stuffy in here.

[John Hamm]

I thought I'd give the window a crack.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No problem.

[John Hamm]

So where were we?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'd forgotten about both of these.

[Seth Meyers]

Really good stretch ham that, like, your stretch over Andy's face to, like, really get your crotch in there is fucking wonderful.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Explodes and becomes Sergio.

[John Hamm]

Explodes into Sergio.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And then Jenny is there somehow again.

[John Hamm]

That crotch in the face move is to be repeated on the hundred.

[Seth Meyers]

Correct.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, I remember the Beeb got a face full of crotch.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. The nice thing about how this is structured is we have hit rule of threes. So I think that kind of the. Your guard's down a little bit now. And also Kool Aid Man. Kool Aid Man. And then Siddeg's explodes. Very nice height in there. Jenny comes back from beat two to join the dancing in beat three. And now we're back. We're fully into plot right now, which, you know, I like.

[John Hamm]

It's got the. It's got the drive and momentum of a 70s throw at this point. Yeah, it's the parallax view.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[Seth Meyers]

Can I. Can I also mention that just because we did have a different director and Krystle was really good at doing his own effects. And I remember actually being kind of excited that I was like, oh, these are kind of new stupid effects. But he was really good at actually, like, doing his own. I mean, he did a shitload of, like, after effects.

[John Hamm]

Even this. Look at this shot right here. This is a little Dutch angle. It's, you know, it's got a lot.

[Seth Meyers]

Of something else going on.

[John Hamm]

Velocity to it. It's. There's. It's.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Dare I say, Hitchcockian?

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, you can say. Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

What's up? What's up?

[John Hamm]

It's like I said, the velocity is. Is ramping up.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, here we go.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No saxophone. No saxophone. You, please, you have to make it stop.

[Andy Samberg]

You made your choice.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You would not pay. I'll pay anything. Please, just lift the curse.

[Andy Samberg]

All right. I will help you. Take this, mend it, hang it over.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Your bed, Keep it safe.

[Andy Samberg]

It will protect you from the curse forever.

[Akiva Quaid]

I will.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I will.

[Seth Meyers]

Thank you.

[Andy Samberg]

Thank you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Five years later.

[Seth Meyers]

That was great.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, so the fact that that.

[Seth Meyers]

Happened simultaneously was great. Really, really good. Forward moment.

[John Hamm]

Clearly, five years later, because you're wearing glasses.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. Totally different guy. He's nice now.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, you're nice.

[John Hamm]

Sweater vest.

[Andy Samberg]

You don't swoop your hair back anymore.

[John Hamm]

Rumpled hair.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wig is your wife. You didn't end up with Jenny. I think we're all happy about that.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, it worked out.

[Andy Samberg]

Based on. Based on how she reacted to Sergio. Jenny was not the one for you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[John Hamm]

Clearly was ready to pitch you over the side.

[Andy Samberg]

And again, I don't think anybody. Anybody is ahead of this at this point in the audience.

[John Hamm]

No.

[Andy Samberg]

Which is really joyful.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Hey, just hang on, honey. You're doing great.

[John Hamm]

Nurse ready?

[Akiva Schaffer]

The birthing room. That's it. You're doing great. Just hang in there. I love you.

[Andy Samberg]

I love you, too. Oh, and by the way, earlier today, I accidentally knocked your good luck trinket onto the floor. I didn't know that. It fell, and I stepped on it really, really hard, and I broke it. Stay calm now.

[John Hamm]

Just push.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I like that you just have more grease on you now.

[Seth Meyers]

It's great.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Really good, by the way. 3:45. It's really not that long.

[Seth Meyers]

Not for the storytelling that you pack in.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I remembered it being much longer.

[Andy Samberg]

You think it's long? Cause you can't believe it's so much story.

[Seth Meyers]

Genuinely, it's cutting very fast, but that's what I said.

[John Hamm]

You guys are tremendous at the economy of storytelling. You get right to the next beat, to the next beat, and the pace and the internal velocity ramp up. I mean, it really does start kind of deliberate. You get all the story like Seth said, you want in 40 seconds, and.

[Andy Samberg]

Then it just runs so the really nice thing is she tells you she broke your good luck thing. Then she holds it up because of course she's delivering a baby. But she also brought it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

She had to pull it out and she brought it with her.

[John Hamm]

She had it in her pocket.

[Andy Samberg]

Then we hear the sound cue the wind starts going through Andy's hair again. Andy's the only person, the only character in the scene who knows something's about to happen. You're looking around at the wall, as we all are, because that's usually where he comes from.

[Seth Meyers]

Unless he explodes a therapist.

[Andy Samberg]

And instead he comes out from between wig's legs, just like covered and just. I don't know.

[John Hamm]

Placenta.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, he's just even sexier.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It's clear. It's just clear gel.

[Andy Samberg]

Clear gel. And then what I like is everybody reacts the way they would.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

In the way the first beat. Like, everybody's like, oh, what's going on here? Now? It's a full fucking horror movie.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It's a horror movie.

[Andy Samberg]

Wig passes out, hater screams. And then we have one of my favorite Andy faces.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, just horse mouth open sob.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, horse mouth open sob is a very good way.

[Akiva Schaffer]

HMOX first and not the last.

[Seth Meyers]

You're very good at naming your own facial.

[Andy Samberg]

Kreitzel came over, he's like, can you give me a little more Horse mouth open sob. And you're like, I got you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You want a wide angle lens? Let's fucking dance.

[Seth Meyers]

You want 20% more? What do you want?

[John Hamm]

This was one of the places though, where I was really, really, really cold.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, I should say so. I remember you saying it at the time too.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, like, let's, let's, let's quick sticks.

[Akiva Schaffer]

On this one because I'm freezing.

[John Hamm]

I'm so cold right now.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, it was a perfect, perfect take.

[Andy Samberg]

I just want to jump in real quick, cuz it's like such a cool short. And it's so funny, like how much John wants to hammer home how cold he was.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I, I relate to this. If we were talking about certain things I've done, I would have to point out how cold I was. Yeah. Which is many times, Seth, as you know.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I got it. Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So I remember being on the floor watching this air and being like, this is going pretty good. And then when it got to that last scene in the delivery room and he comes out, I remember being like, oh, we did good. Because the audience goes fucking insane on that moment. And I remember being like, I'm So happy that we were able to do one that got this level of a reaction.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes.

[John Hamm]

Where did it air, Seth?

[Andy Samberg]

In the Rundown High early. It was like kind of the early.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, it was the first pre tape.

[Andy Samberg]

It was the Lauren Likes it digital shorts.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, Seth.

[Andy Samberg]

I'm just saying. We know the difference. Yeah. I also just want to give credit to how nice a piece of writing it is that John buttoned each beat by saying Sergio to the camera. It's a funny way for every beat to end. And it's the perfect ending for the whole piece.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, it's a great. It took me a long time to get the timing right of that too, because you guys were always like, you gotta look and say it. And I was always saying it when I was looking at it. I wasn't doing it right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, you were so cold.

[Andy Samberg]

You were so cold and you were out of breath.

[John Hamm]

I was so cold, I couldn't do it. I just wasn't getting it right. And I get frustrated when I don't get anything right. On, like, the third take, I'm like, God, am I stupid? Like, what is this? Why am I not doing it?

[Seth Meyers]

Especially if you're covered in slime.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I have no memory of that, John. But you did nail it. Whatever. Whatever.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, they only used the good ones, so. Thank God.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. So this came right out of Don't Make Me Sing. Oh, wow. So no commercial break. And that's just, you know, look, you can't have a better act in SNL history than Don't Make Me Sing into the Curse.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I think you could, but it's still good. It's a good one.

[Andy Samberg]

I'm sorry, that's. That's impeachably great. You can't. You can have ones as good, but I don't think you can have a better actor.

[John Hamm]

Maybe. Maybe unimpeachably great, but. Okay.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, it's a peach. It's got some peach on it.

[Seth Meyers]

I have a question for both Ham and Andy, and this is a actor question, because obviously you guys have been in the edits. You've been in edit rooms. Especially you, Andy, obviously.

[Andy Samberg]

But.

[Seth Meyers]

But you and Ham as well.

[John Hamm]

I got a DJ at Garbage.

[Seth Meyers]

Do you ever. Because you know how much fucking time an editor is going to be looking at your face, whether it's a movie or TV show? Do you ever look at the camera and actually say anything? Like, Tiffany Haddish used to do this thing where she would turn to the camera and just go, hey, Mr. Editor, make me look good. But do you guys Ever talk to the editor? Because you know they're gonna be looking at your face.

[Akiva Schaffer]

First of all, I'm so glad that that question had a name drop in the middle of it.

[Seth Meyers]

No problem.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Secondly. Yes, but more like on something like Brooklyn 9. 9, where I knew them, actually.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

So.

[Seth Meyers]

And then I would be like, sorry.

[John Hamm]

Doug, would you say, like, don't use that.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I would be like, I'm so sorry, Courtney.

[Seth Meyers]

Right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Like, if I was fucking up or something, like.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Or be like, definitely use that take.

[Akiva Quaid]

Courtney.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You have to use that.

[John Hamm]

Oh, my God.

[Andy Samberg]

Courtney, Courtney, Courtney.

[Akiva Schaffer]

If you don't use that take, I'll know and I'll be so pissed. And I'll come down to your bungalow.

[John Hamm]

That's a double star. Underline, underline, underline. No, I've never done that. I've never been, like, I guess, confident enough to have that conversation, but.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, yeah, well, just know that people look at your face for, like, I guess you should do months on end.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You heard it here first, everyone. I, in one small way, am more confident than Jon Ham.

[John Hamm]

See, there you go.

[Andy Samberg]

Let's hear the voice note.

[Akiva Schaffer]

All right, let's do it.

[Akiva Quaid]

What's up, guys? It's Akiva Quaid, army, big fan. Love the pod. Jon Hamm, so sorry to miss you. Your Fletch is the best. Fletch. Okay, let's get into this. So I'm in la. I am working on writing with Spicer Winkler and Jonah Hill. And I am having the weird experience of seeing shorts that I have nothing to do with being on TV for the first time. So it just feels a little. A little weird to me. And this one is arguably the best one that you guys did without me. And it's really good.

[Andy Samberg]

Okay.

[Akiva Quaid]

And it's very fun. And with all that said, I remember having some issues with the filmmaking, and I love Kreisel, but. And Andy remembers it as I'm sure he's talked about already or is about to. And I'm sure I didn't behave the way you should, which would just be unbridled positivity and keep my opinions to myself. But I apparently couldn't help myself, and for that, I apologize. And I just rewatched it, expecting not to be able to know what bothered me, but it actually was glaringly obvious. And it's all nitpicky filmmaking stuff. It is not about the comedy or the performances or that it plays and is great.

[Seth Meyers]

That's nice.

[Akiva Quaid]

Okay. At one minute and three seconds in, you jump the eyeline. So this is Sergio has just broken through the wall of the business room, the. The boardroom. And Andy is in wide and he looks right to left, left where the smoke cloud is coming in to the foreground. Then it goes to Andy's close up and now he's looking left to right. Then it cuts back to Sergio and Sergio's on the far right of the frame, which just even further disorients me. Then when it cuts to the board members, they're looking in the right direction. Ish. But it's vague rather than like cleanly set up where you know, where everybody is in the geography. Like in. Let's look at like in our Rainn Wilson business meeting one or something where you know exactly where things are, are. And so I just found it distracting because I'm a stickler for eyelines working. Then at the end of it, Andy's like Marcy, Steve, and it's back to the correct eyeline there. So at this point, I just know we're not in control. This wasn't a choice. Sometimes people break the eyeline on purpose to disorient you in like a horror way or in a, I don't know, Requiem for a Dream or something, I don't know. But this is not on purpose. So this is where we're now know, we're. We're in uncharted water here.

[Andy Samberg]

We.

[Akiva Quaid]

These are not reliable filmmakers. These people don't know what they're doing. That's what I know. Then in the Jenny Slate date scene, again, we've set up the wine pouring shot on one side of the scene, setting up that. That's the side we're on and that's where the eyeline will be. Then when Sergio comes in through the wall, that's fine. It's the two shot. He goes from the back, kind of resetting what side we might be on. But then it goes to the two shot of you and Jenny were on the other side, totally disorienting me. Then Jenny gets up, exits frame left, and when she returns, she enters the same frame left on the reverse of Sergio, making it seem like she's jumped over to the other side of Sergio. Which is just. There's no excuse for this. This is not on purpose. This is just sloppy and wrong. Okay. And then my last thing, I'll just leave a pause here for to be mad at me.

[Seth Meyers]

The reason I disagree with this is because there's fantasy involved. That's the reason I.

[Akiva Quaid]

Yes, okay, that's fair. It's a good sketch. Again, like I give us Your last one, Keev, in your voice note, then the color correction. So the cameras at that time, and sometimes the Alexa still does this, or sometimes maybe it was the red, I forget. But they gave everything kind of this yellow jaundiced look where everything's washed out and kind of has this beige over it that I recognize as very flat. And you have to do a little work in color correction to pull that away to. To get rid of that shit so that it looks like a finished piece of work.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Work.

[Akiva Quaid]

This just looks like raw footage to me. So it kind of looked unfinished and amateur. Anyways, love you, Krysel.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, shots fire.

[Akiva Quaid]

And I know the Quaids are going to agree with me on this one, because there was one comment on the last video that said, I like it when Keev nerds out. So take that. Anyways, love you guys. Love the pod. Love everything you do. Later, Arnold.

[John Hamm]

Later.

[Andy Samberg]

No, wait, you're not allowed to do that.

[Seth Meyers]

No, you want to end the show there, which is a great way to end it. But here. Here's the reason that that voice note gives me a little bit of PTSD is because I remember while I was trying to edit MacGruber, Keith calling me and complaining and being like, what are you doing? You gotta get over there.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And like.

[Seth Meyers]

Like being very upset that I wasn't.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Taking charge after seeing the Curs air.

[Seth Meyers]

No, this was, like, during the week. He was really nervous about it. And then I remember him like. Like we were sending him edits as it was going, and he was. I can't remember how it worked, but I just remember the feeling of guilt of, well, I gotta edit this movie. And he was like, what are you doing?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Here's what I'll say. It's all born. Keev, I love you.

[Seth Meyers]

We love you. Yes, of course.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Obviously, that's.

[Seth Meyers]

And of course you're right. Of course.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, I don't know. We need Kreisel to chime in, honestly, because there's an arc. It seemed like his problem was consistent in terms of breaking the line. That could have been a choice that Kreissle was making. I don't know that it was.

[Seth Meyers]

I agree with that. It was only, like, one in the Jenny Slade beat that I was like. But to me, the moment a guy comes through the wall, it's like, I'm like, I'm fine.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, it kind of goes in the now. It's like, are we now in Sergio world where you break the line on purpose to disorient people?

[Seth Meyers]

Yes, but that's a Choice.

[Andy Samberg]

And I will only say that I. I don't like it now.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You don't like the short anymore?

[John Hamm]

Yeah, he completely went around.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You got keed, brother.

[Andy Samberg]

I got keed?

[John Hamm]

You got straight up ke.

[Seth Meyers]

All right, later. Quiz.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Never let KE tell you what he thinks about your wife. Cuz your life will end. I'm not talking about me.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm still together with my wife because he likes her. Otherwise if he didn't, we wouldn't be together. I'm so sorry, honey. Oh God. I didn't mean that. I fucking take it back.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm glad he made his speech at our wedding.

[John Hamm]

But it was true.

[Akiva Schaffer]

We all know it's true. I'm so fucked.

[Andy Samberg]

I remember he was at dinner once with Alexi and he kept complaining because she would leave the table and then come back in from the other side.

[John Hamm]

Exactly.

[Seth Meyers]

Which is just disoriented.

[John Hamm]

He didn't know.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, he didn't know where to look.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I feel like your wife breaks the line a lot.

[John Hamm]

Well, I think we have to release the Keev cut. I think he's gotta take another pass at this. Flip a few, you know. Yeah, Flip a few negs and color. Time it to his satisfaction and we'll run em side by side. We'll see if it's better or worse.

[Seth Meyers]

So it's not amateur hour.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Here's my very generous takeaway. Keev cares a lot. And this is something we all built together. And even though it was his choice to completely fucking abandon me and go work on a movie.

[Seth Meyers]

Yep, exactly.

[Andy Samberg]

That never came.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Which never came out. So worth it. Not his fault, but still so worth it.

[Seth Meyers]

Just a vacation in LA for him.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So I understand the feeling of like, I want to do both things. I want to be there. This is the thing we built together. This is also my legacy. I want to make sure it's how I would want it to be. I have all those feelings about things when the shoe is on the other foot. Is that how you say it? When it's the other way around is probably clean. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know that anyone else has ever cared about the things that he just noted but hit us in the tittis. I'd be curious to know.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, can I add onto that too? Is that in addition to what Andy just said, I've learned to be a more meticulous person. Not even director meticulous person, which I'm still not like. But both me and Andy. But both me and Andy, like, I think learned how to be better filmmakers through.

[Andy Samberg]

I've already referenced the latter, or else I would jump in and. And you can, like.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm fine with that. I'm very confident.

[John Hamm]

I think you're just differently meticulous, if I can say that.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Hamm]

Borderline tongue twister.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Differently meticulous and ridiculous.

[John Hamm]

Del the funky Homo sapien.

[Andy Samberg]

Your rap name was Rick Meticulous.

[Seth Meyers]

Rick Meticulous. That's right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You remember Arithmeticulous.

[Seth Meyers]

Rith.

[Andy Samberg]

Meticulous.

[John Hamm]

Ridiculously differently Meticulous. Arithmeticulous.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Okay, so. But yes, Joram and I absolutely agree. I'm so much better at editing because of Akiva and writing all the things. He's our guy. We learned from him. He learned from us. We did it all together. It's beautiful.

[John Hamm]

That's said. Shut up, bro.

[Seth Meyers]

And I will say the SNL digital short logo was a point of pride and that. That is part of it. Just like, what goes in there has to have a certain.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yes.

[John Hamm]

Yes.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, It. It's very funny that I'm. I mean, and I know that's very real. And you were not saying that it's a joke at all, because it is the. As we've established, it's like, the flattest opening logo that you guys are, like, boring. Do not let that flag touch the ground.

[Seth Meyers]

Generic.

[Akiva Schaffer]

There's three people who for sure know that it means that it's us and it's us.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, there you go.

[Seth Meyers]

But if we talk about it a lot on this podcast.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. Hopefully more people know now, but. So all of that, I mean, for me, when he had his issues, I was like, it's the reason that I wanted to bring up how it felt on the floor, watching it air the pride I felt of having pulled one off with neither of them there. And to get that reaction from the audience and to do right by Ham and to, like, have done it with Krysel, who I was really just starting to work with. I was like, fuck, man. I feel like we just did really good. I was so happy at the after.

[John Hamm]

Party and you being sick. You being very sick and very tired and me being very cold. Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Don't forget about how chilly Ham was.

[Seth Meyers]

And Andy. Were you like, fuck those guys? Kind of like, were you just like.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No, not at all.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't need those guys at all.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I just assumed he was right, and it was bad in a way I didn't understand.

[Andy Samberg]

And then you hung up. You hung up the phone, and you made the same horse you made at the end of Sergio. Right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Get the wide angle lens, Terry Gilliam me.

[John Hamm]

Maybe he's right. There's a lesson mostly when you sit with these things too. There is a lesson to learn of. Like if anybody's trying to make films for the first time is like sometimes those mistakes are egregious and sometimes you can live with them. Yeah. You know, they're not always, you know, because we've all been on set shooting something and it's like, well, we could get it from over here, but we'd kind of be jumping the line. And it's like, well, there's a time and a place where you can do that that's not gonna completely pull somebody out of the scene. And I think that's a good lesson to learn too. It's also like, you know, sometimes it's not so bad.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yep, Yep.

[Seth Meyers]

No, no.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I did ask Kreisler voice note, but he hasn't had time to get one to us yet. But maybe for next time, I would love to hear what he has to say about it.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, fucking. I mean, he's gotta hear Keeves and then just shots fired.

[Andy Samberg]

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[John Hamm]

Got it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Was he talking about west coast, though, Maybe Hawaiian time?

[Andy Samberg]

No, he's out. He's east coast. Yeah.

[Akiva Quaid]

He's out.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

Was this closet organizer?

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

So again, God damn.

[Andy Samberg]

This is how good this show is.

[John Hamm]

Every time I hear from him, he references that sketch. We refer to each other by our names in that way.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So wait, before we move on.

[Andy Samberg]

Okay. Please.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Seth Yhorm. Yes, Cam. It's a little loaded for you. Is the curse criteria 100%.

[Andy Samberg]

No hesitation at all?

[John Hamm]

I think so.

[Seth Meyers]

No hesitation. And I think anything that. Not anything that made it into the hundredth digital short, but, like, there's a reason it's in the 100th digital short.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yes, Agreed.

[John Hamm]

Also, I. I was around, even though I wasn't, like, hosting or anything, but I was around when the tournament happened. I think I filled out a bracket, and I'm sure. I think it went pretty far in the bracket.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It was in there. Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah. Oh, for sure. I would be surprised if it didn't.

[Seth Meyers]

Make the Sweet 16.

[Andy Samberg]

16 final.

[John Hamm]

Final 16, if not 8. I. I think it was. It went pretty far, far. But also, it just felt like it kind of had it. You know, Sergio was kind of kept going as a thing, people, you know, whatever. It had a life of its own. Agreed.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And I heard about it a lot after as well.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, Ham, you've had some pretty amazingly sticky characters with that Don Draper guy. Like, we're, like. With Sergio, me and Zeth, both just.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Our eyes rolled out of our skulls.

[Seth Meyers]

What are you talking about?

[John Hamm]

Why he said sticky? That stinks.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Why are you suddenly trying to be like a normal host?

[Seth Meyers]

What are you talking about? I'm a shock jock.

[Andy Samberg]

Like, shock, shock. You're still a shock doc, dude.

[Seth Meyers]

They have different kinds of modes.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Guys, I have a list of questions for this.

[John Hamm]

Did you prepare your Sticky character?

[Seth Meyers]

My question is, how often do people reference Sergio on the street?

[Andy Samberg]

A lot. A lot, Lots.

[John Hamm]

A lot, A lot, a lot. You know, especially, you know, in the. In the what? You said this was 2010.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, this is January 2010.

[John Hamm]

It had a good run of people, like, coming up to me on the street and yelling, sergio. Ham.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Follow up. How many of them bring up the jumping the line.

[Seth Meyers]

Sir?

[John Hamm]

You.

[Andy Samberg]

You.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It up and on.

[Andy Samberg]

On sec.

[Seth Meyers]

Minute 103.

[Akiva Schaffer]

What's up with the color correction, though?

[John Hamm]

Hey, Sergio, you're a great sax guy, but a shitty filmmaker.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Sergio, does it break your heart? Does it break your heart how close you came, Sergio? You were so close, dude. Then you chucked it. I was so disoriented.

[John Hamm]

Why you. Why are you so washed out?

[Andy Samberg]

Oh, hey. I didn't recognize you. I thought you were Sergio, but your color's not fucked up.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God.

[Andy Samberg]

Sweet burns. All right, can we. Can we jump on then, Andy?

[Seth Meyers]

Well, I had some more sincere stuff to say.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No. All right, let's move on.

[Andy Samberg]

Well, okay, I just want to pick up. Hold up. Yeah, hold. What's up, dude? I'm okay, thanks. Thank you. My son came in with two things, which was he told me to stop yelling and asked me if I wanted a beef steak. Oh, he's a good dude.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

All right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Okay.

[John Hamm]

And sure.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And stop yelling.

[Seth Meyers]

Do you want a beef steak?

[Andy Samberg]

Okay, so this just timestamps where we are in the world. The next sketch you play, Scott Brown.

[John Hamm]

Oh, boy. Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Hot Senator, new center.

[John Hamm]

That was a fun one, too.

[Andy Samberg]

Then we have Michael Buble sings his first song and then update. Then Greg is not an alien for the second time. That's Bill as the sports anchor who's definitely an alien.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God, I forgot about those.

[John Hamm]

Greg is definitely an alien.

[Akiva Schaffer]

He was definitely an alien.

[Andy Samberg]

Keenan is a host of a sports show.

[John Hamm]

First time caller, longtime listener, just wanted to say Greg is definitely an alien. Yeah, that's the whole sketch. Hello and welcome to another edition of.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Game Time with Randy and Greg, your.

[John Hamm]

One stop shop for sports talk.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm former NFL running back Randy Dukes and with me, as always, is my co host, Greg. Greg is not an alien. And today we're going to be talking about.

[Andy Samberg]

It's great, really funny.

[John Hamm]

I also feel like. Was this before or after? I feel like this was. Had been kind of done. Or maybe it was. We did it first. This one did it first. Anyway, was where there was the multiplicity thing happening. Yeah, this was because they did it with the Falconer.

[Andy Samberg]

Yes, that was. Falconer was first, but this was the. The. I think the second. Greg's an alien. And yes, you start multiplying. So I think Michael Bryan shows up. Brian Tucker shows up as an alien all dressed like Greg.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Do you remember who you play in this sketch? John?

[John Hamm]

Stan. Stan Van Gundy. Do I play. I play a coach.

[Andy Samberg]

You play Frank Reich, the coach of the. There you go. Coach of the Bills Colts, who gets attacked by Greg and then returns to the show as Greg as an alien. Yeah. Then we're off into a Seth's Corner njorm. Sing us a real quick Seth's Corner.

[Seth Meyers]

Here's the part of the show that Seth talks about what he did that week.

[Andy Samberg]

Take it away, Seth. You know what? I'm going to come right back at you, Andy, and say, like, here's another. This is a. Maybe even more impressive. This is a three sketch act that I put up against anything. Ham and Bubbly is the next sketch, which is Jon Hamm and Michael Buble have opened a ham and a champagne restaurant.

[John Hamm]

I get a lot of that one, man. That was a good one.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Is it called Ham and Bubbly or Ham and Buble?

[Andy Samberg]

No, it's Ham and Bubbly. And then John is a very menacing guy. And over the course of the sketch, you realize that he's kidnapped Michael Buble and he insists. And Michael does try to say it's actually pronounced Buble. And he's like. And John like very menacingly says, that's not.

[John Hamm]

No, no, it's bubbly. His eyes went black and he smacked.

[Andy Samberg]

My face and he sings songs. He's singing. And every time it's like, I know.

[John Hamm]

What you're thinking and I agree this.

[Andy Samberg]

Is a bad idea for a restaurant.

[John Hamm]

Oh, no, he's coming back. When I get a chance, I'll explain how he came to this.

[Akiva Schaffer]

This is the Jon Hamm's Jon Hamm unofficial sequel. Yes, yes.

[Andy Samberg]

Also, Michael Buble was not at the table. I think we all know I can't sing. And I had to sing the Michael Buble part at the table. Read on Wednesday.

[John Hamm]

Hey, it made the show.

[Andy Samberg]

Thank you. Not great. I remember Sudeikis maybe laughing so hard he was choking, but it made the show.

[John Hamm]

It made the show.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I was gonna say Sudeikis died to do the Buble parts.

[Andy Samberg]

I know, but I couldn't. I was very worried about getting the scansion of the jokes. Right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Understand at the table, I knew I could sing the jokes.

[John Hamm]

All right.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Fair, fair, fair.

[Andy Samberg]

Well, not in Buble, but a thing I had forgotten was at one point John says, like, the deal now is.

[John Hamm]

And if you like entertainment with your meal, you're in luck. Every night at ham and Bubbly, Mr. Michael Bubbly will perform two shows in the 8pm Michael is a ventriloquist. At 11pm he does a one man show about William Faulkner. Don't you think it would just be.

[Andy Samberg]

Better if I sang in the shows?

[John Hamm]

Excuse me, that sound means another delicious ham is ready. Neither are singing.

[Andy Samberg]

And then Michael McGlay like goes, wouldn't it be better if I just sang? And you just like stare at him.

[Seth Meyers]

It's really funny.

[Andy Samberg]

It's really great. All right, then we go into Closet Organizer, which is A pre tape. And again, in order to get a three sketch act, you need a pre tape in the middle. So it's a late night television ad for a closet organizer. It's exceptional work by Sudeikis only doing the voiceover. Cause like, hi. It's a closet organizer. Just a really funny, dumb voice. And it's basically Will Forte dressed in a blue bodysuit, standing in a closet. And he organized your closet. And then they're just people keep off camera. You never see anybody are throwing things at him. And he's organizing them in the closet, but he immediately isn't catching them. And it's just a mess.

[John Hamm]

The idea is that you throw things at this person who lives in your closet and he puts them away neatly for you. He's your closet organizer. But it immediately goes off the rails.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Blue spandex suit.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, blue spandex suit with a head covering.

[Seth Meyers]

Perfect forte.

[John Hamm]

He's a blue shape.

[Andy Samberg]

I wanna make sure. I think all you need to give him is a little bit of food and water and a bucket for him to do his business. And then it cuts to him. His pants are still on, but he's squatting over a bucket. It's a lot of water. Like some of the things in the closet organizer are water. Just for the joy of seeing him splashed with water. Marbles. And then at the end it goes, pies, pies, pies. And he just keeps getting hit with pies.

[Akiva Schaffer]

This is pure forte solemn, 1,000%.

[John Hamm]

John and Will.

[Akiva Schaffer]

God damn it. John and Will.

[Seth Meyers]

Will is very good. Physically.

[Akiva Schaffer]

So funny.

[Andy Samberg]

And again, I reached out to them and they were. They said, oh, my God, definitely. When do you need it by? And it's four hours past then. But let's just watch it. Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Weren't there three pieces of it? Two or only two?

[John Hamm]

There were three pieces of finger and butts.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Excuse me, does this happen to you? Is your closet an absolute mess? Are you way too stupid to keep your closet clean?

[John Hamm]

Hey.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Introducing the new zipco closet organizer. Organizer, great for shoes, sweaters, belts, hats.

[Andy Samberg]

Parkas, jeans, underwear, socks, scarves.

[Seth Meyers]

That's very important.

[Andy Samberg]

Blankets, lamps, trophies, marbles, phone books, additional.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Water, loose peanut butter. Pie, Pie, pie, pie, pie.

[Seth Meyers]

He pockets the underwear, pocketing the underwear.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Right out of the gate. God damn it.

[Andy Samberg]

There's more to say about that. But first, then we go to the third of this hat trick. Is Fred's stenographer character Alydnaid.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, crackers. Maybe it was Anne golden era, Seth.

[Andy Samberg]

I mean, it's an Anne golden episode.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, this is a Killer, man.

[Andy Samberg]

It made me laugh so hard. And again, it's like, from a bygone era. This Fred character, it's also the most. Most Fred and James Anderson sketch, I think.

[John Hamm]

Was I asking you this, Seth? Cause did he do another version of this, or did he do this character?

[Andy Samberg]

This, I think, is the second one of these.

[John Hamm]

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I thought.

[Andy Samberg]

Cause I remember there was one where he couldn't find his chapstick. And then this one time, he can't find his crackers.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, God.

[Andy Samberg]

We're not gonna watch all of it, but I would just like to watch just the beginning of this sketch. Cause the fun of, like, the Fred.

[John Hamm]

Reveal also takes his time.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Thank you, Mrs. Shanklin.

[Seth Meyers]

Your witness.

[John Hamm]

So, Mrs. Shanklin, on the night Mr. Green was murdered, you saw a suspicious vehicle? I did. Can you describe this vehicle?

[Andy Samberg]

I remember it very clearly.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It was a white Ford Escort with a dent in the driver's side door.

[Andy Samberg]

That was a good full. I mean, it's like a sketch from. It's a sketch from 50 years ago. It's like.

[John Hamm]

It's like it would not have been out of place on your show of shows.

[Akiva Schaffer]

No. Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Unbelievable. But it's like it's too big for Carol Burnett.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

And it's not. It's a completely different world. And there's no notes have been given to any other performers to do anything differently.

[John Hamm]

Is there any way you can type more questions quietly?

[Andy Samberg]

It's not me. It's the machine.

[John Hamm]

Why are you using a typewriter instead of a stenograph?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I don't know how to do that.

[Seth Meyers]

I'll be fine.

[John Hamm]

I'll be fine.

[Andy Samberg]

This is. This just. And then this part is something that my wife and I still say all the time.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

I can't find my crackers. I can't find my crackers.

[John Hamm]

I can't find my crackers. Being in a sketch with Fred. 101 without breaking. Do not make eye contact with him or you're done.

[Andy Samberg]

Wow. Then there's this weird. Just the most James writing that comes out of nowhere. Cause you go and you address Kenan, the judge. And this also does not fit in the sketch at all, but it delights me. Excuse me.

[Akiva Quaid]

Sorry.

[John Hamm]

Your honor, Is there something we can do about the court stenographer? Do you have an issue with the. Linda, She's. I don't want to say that she's bad at her job, but she's typing what we're saying right now. Listen, no one is good at Their job.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean, you're not a good lawyer.

[John Hamm]

I'm not a good judge. I mean, this jury doesn't look like.

[Akiva Schaffer]

They know what they're doing, but who cares? We're just figuring out if people go.

[John Hamm]

To jail or not.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Excuse me. Can we. God damn it.

[Seth Meyers]

We're just figuring out if people go to jail or not.

[Andy Samberg]

Anyway, it's. Again, it's. Perfect act. And now you think, at this point, there's nothing more you could ask about this show.

[John Hamm]

Also, I want to say that we've come into. We're now living in this world, right? When the response to somebody being terrible at their job is, listen, no one's good at their job. This is the world we're in very.

[Andy Samberg]

Very ahead of its time.

[John Hamm]

We've come all the way around to actually living in Alinda's world.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I mean, specifically deciding if people go to jail.

[Seth Meyers]

Prophetic. It was prophetic.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Is there not a second closet organizer piece?

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, and we're gonna watch it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm so sorry.

[Andy Samberg]

It's. But this is.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Again, Seth, you had a plan, and I fucked it.

[Andy Samberg]

No, this was the exact plan. But at this point, again, this show does not need anything else to make it a perfect show. And yet we have this coming.

[John Hamm]

Oh, man. And this is the 5 to 1, right?

[Akiva Schaffer]

God damn it. I love them.

[Andy Samberg]

John's sitting alone at a bar. Will enters.

[Seth Meyers]

Gin and tonic, please. Gin and tonic on the way.

[John Hamm]

Gin and tonic.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Hell of a drink.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm not gay.

[John Hamm]

I'm not either, bro.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, cheers.

[Andy Samberg]

Sorry.

[Seth Meyers]

All right. Just.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It's been a long day.

[John Hamm]

None taken.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I didn't say no offense.

[John Hamm]

None taken.

[Andy Samberg]

That is the most forte in Solomon line. So frustrating to have somebody say none taken before without anybody saying, no offense.

[Seth Meyers]

It's like being in a writer's room with a.

[Andy Samberg]

There's more to come.

[John Hamm]

You look familiar. Do I know you from somewhere?

[Seth Meyers]

I don't know.

[Andy Samberg]

Probably not.

[John Hamm]

Where'd you go to high school?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Salt Lake City?

[Seth Meyers]

Pleasant Valley? Beavers?

[John Hamm]

No, I'm from Israel. Jerusalem Tigers.

[Andy Samberg]

By the way, this as a. As a 10 to ONER. Everything that's happened so far is perfectly fine. And again, at the 10, when you're listening to this at the table, you're like, oh, this is one of those forte pieces that's gonna be about two people talking weird, and I'm here for it. And it's gonna be the use of language like we've never heard before, and moves like that. But there's more, you know?

[Seth Meyers]

Guess not.

[John Hamm]

Then. No, I Know you from somewhere? Are you on tv?

[Akiva Schaffer]

No, I'm on a bar stool.

[John Hamm]

That's a really good joke. So, no, seriously, how do I know you? Wait a second. You're the freaking closet organizer guy, aren't you?

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God.

[John Hamm]

That's you. Right from the commercial. The blue suit.

[Seth Meyers]

That's me.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, your hair kind of threw me.

[Seth Meyers]

I'm not wearing the hat, so.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I can't believe I'm.

[John Hamm]

I'm talking to the closet organizer guy.

[Seth Meyers]

I have a name, actually.

[John Hamm]

Oh, God, I'm sorry.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, before we get to the names, Forte's performance as a guy who gets this all the time is just marvelous.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And I gotta. I'm not just blowing smoke. I'm buying Ham's performances.

[Seth Meyers]

Hold on, hold on. Can I just show. Yeah. This is my mom trying not to be seen. She's crawling on the floor, so she's not seen. Just get on. You know all these people?

[John Hamm]

Hi.

[Seth Meyers]

There's Seth and John Hammond.

[Andy Samberg]

We're having an argument on whether Jorma's.

[John Hamm]

Nike sweatpants are 100% cotton. So I have to.

[Seth Meyers]

What?

[John Hamm]

I get it. I get it.

[Andy Samberg]

Not yet.

[Akiva Schaffer]

We've all been there.

[Seth Meyers]

Bye, Mom.

[John Hamm]

Down that street. Yep.

[Akiva Schaffer]

We've all been in that exact situation hundreds of times with yorm.

[Seth Meyers]

She's 74. She was crawling on the floor so she wouldn't be seen in the podcast.

[John Hamm]

She's rubbing it in your face how mobile she is.

[Andy Samberg]

I like that. Even she can't believe we don't have video on our podcast.

[Seth Meyers]

Yep.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, so John mentioned earlier, he alluded to the fact that we're about to hear two of the greatest sketch names of all time.

[John Hamm]

Oh, God, I'm sorry.

[Andy Samberg]

Tarkey.

[Seth Meyers]

Tarkey Bensington.

[John Hamm]

Tarkey. I'm Resdin Bonheur.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It's a real honor.

[John Hamm]

Real honor. Yeah. Now, I know you. You probably get this all the time, but would you mind doing a little bit for me?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I don't know.

[Seth Meyers]

I mean.

[John Hamm]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Samberg]

Please? Fine.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Okay.

[John Hamm]

Socks. Marbles.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Pies.

[Andy Samberg]

Pies.

[John Hamm]

Pies. That's so awesome.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God.

[John Hamm]

Thank you. Oh, man. Hey, what are you doing right now? You want to head over to my place? Maybe watch the office or something? I don't know. Oh, come on. It'd be fun. We could order pizza, drink some beer. It'll be fun.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, okay.

[Andy Samberg]

Maybe.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, you know, play some video games. You know, maybe after, you could help me organize my closet.

[Akiva Schaffer]

There it is.

[John Hamm]

Thanks.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Resin.

[John Hamm]

What?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm not gonna help you organize your closet. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa.

[John Hamm]

I was joking.

[Seth Meyers]

Well, it wasn't funny.

[John Hamm]

I'm sorry.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, you are sorry. You don't know what it's like to be me, okay? Every time someone tries to buy you.

[Seth Meyers]

Or wants to be your friend or wants to. Wants to make love to you, you.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Have to ask yourself, are they doing this because you're Tarkey Fensington or because you're ties, socks, marbles?

[John Hamm]

I had no idea.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah, no, you didn't. Goodbye, Resden. I hope you die tonight. Hey, was that the closet organizer guy?

[John Hamm]

No, that was Tarky. Yeah, that was a closet.

[Akiva Schaffer]

This Tarky.

[Seth Meyers]

Fencing.

[Andy Samberg]

I mean, I think in the same way, I do feel like this had the same fun of the end of the curse, which is like, the audience was so appreciative of the amount of structural integrity of these two things.

[John Hamm]

There is a big laugh when it's.

[Andy Samberg]

Revealed, and it's just such a. Right. It's such a edifying laugh of like.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, it's very fun when the show does things like this, where it references itself within the episode and.

[John Hamm]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Sorry, is your last name. Your name is Resdin? Boner Bonaire. Is it spelled Boner?

[John Hamm]

Like boner with a U in it?

[Seth Meyers]

Okay, clarifying. Great writing.

[John Hamm]

The Jerusalem Tigers.

[Andy Samberg]

We're wrapping it up. Guys, this is a good. Oh, I just want to say real quick, Little Housekeeping. Kenward and Jost wrote the weird L. I want to make sure Kenward also gets credit for that impenetrable sketch. Oh, the.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Hey. Kids are heading down to Shea.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, nice. Thank you for cleaning that up.

[Andy Samberg]

A very nice note about the pod. Congrats on the enormity of your success. Yorm and the Gang, which is what my cousin calls this podcast for some reason. Let's pod tonight, guys. My character.

[Seth Meyers]

My character has been rising through the ranks, guys.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, my God. Yormhead.

[Andy Samberg]

Andy, I'm wondering. Andy, I'm wondering what you think about this comic. Cause I think there's some truth to it.

[Seth Meyers]

Keev.

[Andy Samberg]

Organizing a special screening of Way of Water, but also not remembering that Sigourney Weaver was in the first movie is a real distillation of Avatar's overall place in the culture. Oh, wow, that's a. I mean, I really think that really resonated with me.

[John Hamm]

Really?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I think a lot of people would agree with that.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I happen to not be one of them, but I can't deny anyone else's experience of which I've been told about.

[Seth Meyers]

I don't know. Keeva. Not remembering that, to me, has been the Biggest shock of this entire podcast that he didn't remember that. And you know what I wanna say, guys? John, you've had such sticky characters and. Okay, fine. No one wants to hear me. I'm the most popular character on the pod, Guys. Now.

[John Hamm]

It's fun being on Jorm in the Gang, guys. I've been enjoying it.

[Andy Samberg]

When Matt Weiner pitched it to you, was he like, this character? Sticky Draper?

[Seth Meyers]

Sticky, babe, you're gonna wanna be in this show. Johnny.

[Andy Samberg]

Hey. The last thing. The last thing I wanted to say that I totally forgot was when I went. When I was back at snl, I was hanging out with the writers, and I was hanging out with a lot of the young writers. A bunch of them said this podcast was more helpful in telling them how the show worked than anything anybody at the show has told them.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Is that true?

[Andy Samberg]

Yep.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Well, hello, everyone. We love you.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah, we love you guys. Thanks for listening.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Wait, Ham, we got you here. Anything else that you remember from that week? Anything you want to bless us with about your ess SNL experience other than just.

[John Hamm]

It was not the usual being terrified that you had? No, because like you said, nobody really tells you what. You're just supposed to follow along kind of blindly. So I at least had a template of what I kind of thought might happen.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[John Hamm]

And then I knew I was gonna. I was happy that I was getting all the opportunities to do so many great sketches. And as everybody knows, like, you know, table is five hours long, and it was a long table. It was jam packed with awesome stuff, and it was hard to pick the show, but it was so. And it just. It was great to come back, and it was so fun that I came back, I think, in the same calendar year, which was even. Even more fun. We tried to get some more stuff.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Do you hook up with anyone? Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Do you hook up?

[Akiva Schaffer]

No.

[Akiva Quaid]

Do you have.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Do you have a crush on anyone in the cast?

[John Hamm]

Andy, you got me sick. You got me all sick when we mouthed.

[Akiva Schaffer]

While. While we're on the subject, Seth, I still think it's fucked up we never hooked up.

[Andy Samberg]

I do, too. I remember Ham just kept saying he was too cold to hook up that week, so don't get on.

[Akiva Schaffer]

I'm just way too chilly. I'm so sorry.

[Andy Samberg]

Don't get on me. I'm too greasy.

[Akiva Schaffer]

You're lovely. I'm just so chilly.

[John Hamm]

Just hold me. I think that John and Will wrote that Closet Organizer, the. The Last act of the Closet Organizer as a comment on how difficult it was to be Don Draper in The world. That's all I'll say.

[Andy Samberg]

You know, that's really what I mean.

[John Hamm]

That's the meta of it all.

[Andy Samberg]

You'd been on the other side of that a lot of times.

[John Hamm]

Yeah, it made. It made sense to me. I got. I got it.

[Andy Samberg]

You got it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Your performance was based in reality.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

True experience.

[Andy Samberg]

I say this with no exaggeration. Jon Hamm, you are Anne golden, host from Anne golden era.

[John Hamm]

I loved it. It was so fun. It's still fun. Only took me 15 years to get back on it, but, man, it was fun.

[Andy Samberg]

That's nice.

[Akiva Schaffer]

It was fun. It was fun. When you went back.

[Seth Meyers]

Oh, my God, you were a killer on it, man.

[Andy Samberg]

But I think every era of show has its go to host, and we were so lucky that we overlapped with you.

[John Hamm]

Well, that's kind of you to say.

[Akiva Schaffer]

And, Seth, you watched the last episode. What was your least favorite story sketch of.

[Andy Samberg]

Of this whole episode of the last.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Episode that just aired? Sabrina Carpenter, least favorite sketch.

[Seth Meyers]

Do tell.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Now that we know all the writers are listening, you.

[Andy Samberg]

You want to add this as a thing everywhere.

[Akiva Schaffer]

We all know how hard it is to work there, but we don't work there no more.

[Akiva Quaid]

Dude.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Let's on it.

[Andy Samberg]

Right?

[John Hamm]

Dish.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Do it.

[John Hamm]

Just say it. And then we'll cut it out and we'll. And everyone will wonder what it was.

[Seth Meyers]

Yeah, just bleep it, Seth.

[Andy Samberg]

All right, tell us. All right, let's get out of here. Oh, wait. Wa. Wait, wait. Sorry. Andy. Theme song.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Spelling bee. Spelling bee.

[Andy Samberg]

Andy, what'd you do in the bee today?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I got motherfucking queen bee clean.

[Andy Samberg]

All right.

[Seth Meyers]

Thanks for listening, guys.

[Andy Samberg]

I wanted you to hear this criticism. It's very stressful. You and I share our bees every day. You're way better than me. And, like, when I tell you and I'm honest with you about the words I miss, you're always like, oh, fuck. You must be so fucking bummed. You're just not. You know what you are, Keev, about the curse with me about the bee?

[Akiva Schaffer]

No, but it's. It's because I know you can do better. Is that Keef, too? Yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

Yeah.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Is that what he thinks when he says mean things?

[John Hamm]

Kind of.

[Andy Samberg]

Anyway, congrats on the bee. All right, let's try it one more time.

[John Hamm]

So it's. You got clean bee. Is what you got?

[Akiva Schaffer]

I got clean B.

[John Hamm]

Queen bee.

[Andy Samberg]

Nice.

[Akiva Quaid]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Samberg]

And I missed yawned and what else did I miss? It was something else dumb.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Oh, do me.

[Andy Samberg]

Come on.

[John Hamm]

Like the Belle Biv Devoe song.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah. Doomy baby, take your K. Wait.

[John Hamm]

It was Motown Philly on it today.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Yeah.

[Seth Meyers]

Got into Webster's because those guys were so great.

[Andy Samberg]

We've now entered Shaggy tail. God damn it.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Or good Shaggy tails. And I cannot lie.

[Andy Samberg]

I remember. All right. Love you guys.

[John Hamm]

Love you, guys.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Love you, buddies.

[John Hamm]

Later, Arnold. Later, Quaid.

[Akiva Schaffer]

Son of a. Stole my line.